(EN/KO SUB)I Have Internal Conflicts As a Pharmacist-Ven. Pomnyunโ€™s Dharma Q&A

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    Ven. Pomnyun's Answer to "I Have Internal Conflicts As a Pharmacistโ€
    Selection from a Dharma Q&A session at Bethesda Chevy Chase Regional Service Center in Washington D.C. (September 18, 2019)

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  • @nkchoi8270
    @nkchoi8270 4 ๋…„ ์ „ +14

    ์Šค๋‹˜, ํ†ต์—ญ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ†ต์—ญ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์„ ๋ณด๋‹ˆ ์—ญ์‹œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋ฐฐ์›€์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ƒˆ์‚ผ ๋Š๋‚๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    50 ์ค‘๋ฐ˜์„ ๋„˜์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์•Œ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ๊ณ  ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๋„ ์ž๊พธ ์ƒ๊ฒจ๋‚˜๋‹ˆ....๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์ตํžˆ๊ณ  ์•Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ž์„ธ๋กœ ์‚ด์•„์•ผ ๋‚ด ์‚ถ์˜ ์ถฉ๋งŒ์— ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์™€ ์ง„๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค...

  • @user-yc4do9jh8m
    @user-yc4do9jh8m 4 ๋…„ ์ „ +14

    ์ฐธ ์ข‹์€ ํ†ต์—ญ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋‘์…จ๋„ค์š”. ์ €๋ถ„ํ•œํ…Œ๋„ ๋ณต์ด๋„ค์š”

  • @user-hz9uo5pd8q
    @user-hz9uo5pd8q 4 ๋…„ ์ „ +8

    ๐ŸŒฟ๐ŸŒธ๊ตฌ๋…์ž100๋งŒ๋˜๋Š”๋‚  ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
    ๋‘๋ถ„์˜ ๊ณต์—ฐ ์ตœ๊ณ ์„ธ์š”๐ŸŒˆ
    ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๐ŸŒธ๐ŸŒฟ๐ŸŒธ๐ŸŒฟ

  • @kimgyuri_tarotcafe
    @kimgyuri_tarotcafe 4 ๋…„ ์ „ +9

    ์Šค๋‹˜ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค~ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์Šค๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์œผ์‹  ์†Œ์ค‘ํ•œ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์Œ์„
    ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋‚˜๋ผ ๋ฟ๋งŒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ „์„ธ๊ณ„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์„ค๋ฒ•์„ ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

  • @user-ej7rj2lu9r
    @user-ej7rj2lu9r 4 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

    ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์š•์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹คโ™ก

  • @user-gg7io8ws3d
    @user-gg7io8ws3d 4 ๋…„ ์ „ +4

    ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค~^โ™ก^

  • @hamstrong6479
    @hamstrong6479 4 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

    ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ง์”€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ํ•„์š” ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋ง์ด์—์š”
    ๋งค์ผ ๋ด์•ผ๊ฒ ์–ด์š” ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค

  • @yujoeng3642
    @yujoeng3642 4 ๋…„ ์ „ +3

    ์„ธ๊ณ„๋กœ ๋ป—์–ด๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ฆ‰๋ฌธ์ฆ‰์„ค ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค

  • @jadis6324
    @jadis6324 4 ๋…„ ์ „ +8

    ํ†ต์—ญ ์ •๋ง ์ž˜ํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค...๋†€๋ž„์ •๋„๋กœ

    • @0Bae
      @0Bae 4 ๋…„ ์ „

      ๋„ˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•ด

    • @bums-nw9kr
      @bums-nw9kr 4 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

      @@0Bae ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ์›ฌ ๋ฐ˜๋ง์ฐ

  • @OYT0724
    @OYT0724 4 ๋…„ ์ „ +5

    ์ œ์ด์Šจ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜ ํ†ต์—ญ ์‹ค๋ ฅ์„ ๋ฏฟ๊ณ  ๋งˆ์Œ๋†“๊ณ  ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋งํ•˜์‹œ๋Š”๋“ฏ ใ…‹ใ…‹ใ…‹

  • @_DoDam_
    @_DoDam_ 4 ๋…„ ์ „ +4

    ๊ฐ์‚ฌ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค~

    • @user-pn1bb8ye6h
      @user-pn1bb8ye6h 9 ๊ฐœ์›” ์ „

      ๋ญ๋ผ ๋งํ• ์ˆ˜ ์—†์„ ์ •๋„๋กœ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ์ž˜ ์ฑ™๊ธฐ์‹œ๊ณ  ์ข‹์œผ์‹  ๋ง์”€ ๊ฐ€์Šด์— ์™€๋‹ฟ๋Š” ๋ง์”€์— ~~ ์ฐกํ•จ์„ ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ๋ฐ”์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ™”์ดํŒ… ํ• ๊ป˜์š”.

  • @r0ver
    @r0ver 4 ๋…„ ์ „

    ์ฐธ ์ข‹์€๋ง์”€ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

  • @hamstrong6479
    @hamstrong6479 4 ๋…„ ์ „ +1

    ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ํ–‰๋ณตํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์‚ด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค

  • @user-nx3yq1gl4y
    @user-nx3yq1gl4y 4 ๋…„ ์ „ +2

    ๋Œ€์ถฉ ๋„์ ์—ฌ๋ณธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ดํ•˜์‹œ๋Š” ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์•„๋ณด์—ฌ ๋ฒˆ์—ญํ•˜์˜€์œผ๋‹ˆ ์ „์ฒด์ ์ธ ๋‚ด์šฉ์— ์ฐธ๊ณ  ํ•˜์…จ์œผ๋ฉด ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    ๋ฒ•๋ฅœ์Šค๋‹˜๊ป˜ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ธฐ๋งŒ ํ•ด์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ„๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋„์›€์ด ๋ ๋งŒํ•œ ์ž‘์€ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ํ•ด๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    ์ข‹์€ ํ•˜๋ฃจ ๋˜์„ธ์š” :)
    I have internal conflicts as a pharmacist
    ์•ฝ์‚ฌ๋กœ์„œ ๋‚ด์  ๊ฐˆ๋“ฑ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    First of all, I want to give you a big thank you, Ponmnyun Sunum.
    You have been a great help living in the U.S. whenever I need advice.
    Sometimes, I just listen to your KRplus and I can sleep well.
    ๋จผ์ €, ๋ฒ•๋ฅœ ์Šค๋‹˜๊ป˜ ํฐ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ์˜ ๋ง์”€์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    ์Šค๋‹˜์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์‚ด๋ฉฐ ์กฐ์–ธ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•  ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ํฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    ๊ฐ€๋” ์Šค๋‹˜ ์œ ํŠœ๋ธŒ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ž ๋“ค๊ณค ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    Also thank you jason Lim and he's also very popular among Korean-Americans beacsue his traslation is so good.
    And then we are wondering what he did before and we found that he is not a professional translator,
    but he's doing so good job. So just thanks so much.
    ๋˜ํ•œ ์ œ์ด์Šจ ์ž„๋‹˜๊ป˜ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ํ•œ๊ตญ๊ณ„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค ์‚ฌ์ด์—์„œ ํ†ต์—ญ์„ ์ž˜ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์•„์ฃผ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ๋“ค์€ ์ œ์ด์Šจ ์ž„๋‹˜๊ป˜์„œ ์ด์ „์— ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์„ ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ณ  ์ „๋ฌธ ํ†ต์—ญ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์ง€๋งŒ
    ๊ทธ๋Š” ์•„์ฃผ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ํ†ต์—ญ์‚ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    So about two years ago, I moved my job from private to government position for security.
    However definitely a good thing, but also, there is a trade-off.
    I found that many people do not like changes. So my dilemma is that I work for a hospital and I'm a pharmacist,
    and I see a lot of pationts who stay at the hospital for a long time and treated with many medications.
    2๋…„ ์ „ ์ €๋Š” ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ์—…์—์„œ ๊ณต๊ณต๊ธฐ๊ด€์œผ๋กœ ์•ˆ์ •์„ฑ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ด์งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    ๋ถ„๋ช… ์ข‹์€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ์„œ๋„ ์žƒ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๋˜ํ•œ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    ์ €๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ณ‘์›์—์„œ ์•ฝ์‚ฌ์ธ ์ €์˜ ๋”œ๋ ˆ๋งˆ๋Š”
    ๋ณ‘์›์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ํ™˜์ž๋“ค์ด ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์€ ์•ฝ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    As a pharmacist, I want to use as less as possible and then every medication should be justified.
    So whenever I approach doctors or any prescribers, they have an attitude of why bother.
    And even my boss told me one day that he tried really hard, but he really couldn't change much.
    And even though he spent a lot of time, but he really couldn't make a big impact.
    ์•ฝ์‚ฌ๋กœ์„œ, ์ €๋Š” ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ํ•œ ์ ์€ ์•ฝ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋“  ์•ฝ์€ ์‚ฌ์šฉ์— ์ •๋‹นํ•œ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์˜์‚ฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด๋‚˜ ์ฒ˜๋ฐฉ์— ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๋ถ„๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐˆ ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ํƒœ๋„๋Š” '์™œ ๊ดด๋กญํžˆ๋ƒ' ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    ํ•˜๋ฃจ๋Š” ์ €์˜ ์ƒ์‚ฌ๋„ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋„ ์—„์ฒญ ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ณ„๋กœ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ€ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”๊ฒŒ ์—†์—ˆ๋‹ค๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์Ÿ์•„๋ถ€์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ํฐ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์ฃผ์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    So he told me that I have my own life and then I have family, and then you may just do better instead of trying that hard.
    Just need to find a balance. So my question is I always think of my patients like my family.
    So if I were like a familym, for example, I wouldn't want to take 40 medications a day.
    ์ƒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ, ์ €๋„ ์ œ ์‚ถ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์กฑ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ€๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ์ผํ•ด๋ผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ ๋‹นํ•œ ๊ท ํ˜•์„ ์ฐพ์•„์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์ €๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ™˜์ž๋“ค์„ ์ €์˜ ๊ฐ€์กฑ๋“ค์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Œ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ด์œ  ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด , ๋งŒ์•ฝ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ™˜์ž๋“ค์ด ์ œ ๊ฐ€์กฑ๋“ค์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•˜๋ฃจ์— 40๊ฐœ์˜ ์•ฝ์„ ๋จน๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    However removing those medications is much harder than adding on because they need to monitor and they don't want to be
    responsible for any side effects because of that. So even though just he told me that you just try and then maybe
    the success rate is only less than 5 percent or 8 percent, how I need to deal with it like with this stuff?
    ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜, ์•ฝ ์‚ฌ์šฉ์„ ๊ด€์ฐฐํ•ด์ค˜์•ผํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์•ฝ์„ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ œ๊ฑฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ์–ด๋ ต๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์ƒ๊ธฐ๋Š”
    ๋ถ€์ž‘์šฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ฑ…์ž„์„ ์ง€์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์ƒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์‹œ๋„ ๋ณด๋ผ๊ณ ๋„ ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์„ฑ๊ณต์œจ์€ 5-8ํผ์„ผํŠธ์ •๋„๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‚ฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
    ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด ์ผ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๋ค„์•ผํ• ๊นŒ์š” ?
    ์•ฝ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋œ ์ด์œ 
    Yeah, that is a kind of old story.
    My father allowed me to go to either pharmacy school or no college.
    ์ข€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”.
    ์ œ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์•ฝ๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋Œ€ํ•™์„ ์•ˆ๊ฐ€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‘˜ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์„ ํƒํ•˜๋ผํ•ด์„œ ์•ฝ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

  • @user-dg3zc9cx6q
    @user-dg3zc9cx6q 4 ๋…„ ์ „

    ์„ธ๊ณ„๋กœ ์„ธ๊ณ„๋กœ
    ์Šค๋‹˜ ํ™”์ดํŒ…!!
    ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค๐Ÿ’•

  • @user-js4pj7ku2w
    @user-js4pj7ku2w 4 ๋…„ ์ „ +14

    ํ•œ๊ธ€๋ฒˆ์—ญ์ข€ ์ž๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ํ•ด์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด
    ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ๋จผ์ง€ ์ดํ•ด๊ฐ€ ์•ˆ๋˜์š”~

    • @hsk7208
      @hsk7208 4 ๋…„ ์ „

      ์ €๋„์š”~
      ์Šค๋‹˜ ๋ง์”€์œผ๋กœ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ์œ ์ถ”ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ,์ž๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ํ•ด์ฃผ์‹œ๋ฉด~~~

  • @user-pt1kd4qt1s
    @user-pt1kd4qt1s 3 ๋…„ ์ „

    ํ—. ์˜์–ด ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•ด์•ผ๊ฒ ๋‹ค ใ…œใ…กใ…œ ํ†ต์—ญ์‚ฌ๋‹˜ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

  • @greentree01
    @greentree01 4 ๋…„ ์ „

    ํ•œ๊ตญ ๋ถˆ๊ต๊ฐ€ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ๋ถˆ๊ต์˜ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค! ์Šค๋‹˜, ์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜ ๊ณ ๋ง™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹คโ™ก ์ œ ๋งˆ์Œ์˜ ๋“ฑ๋ถˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค! ์˜ค๋Š˜๋„ ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ๋ฐฐ๋ถ€๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค~!โ™ก ^^ ํ•œ๊ตญ์ธ์ด์–ด์„œ ์Šค๋‹˜์ด ๊ณ„์…”์„œ ํ–‰๋ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค!~^^โ™ก

  • @user-yz4my9kh5z
    @user-yz4my9kh5z 4 ๋…„ ์ „

    ์™€ ์˜์–ด ๋ฐœ์Œ์ฃฝ์ด๋„ค์š”.๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ใ…Ž ใ…Ž