Why Do You Focus on Resolving Reunification Issue? Ven. Pomnyunβs Dharma Q&A
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Ven. Pomnyun's Answer to "Why Do You Focus on Resolving Reunification Issue?β
Selection from a Dharma Q&A session at Jogyesa Temple, Seoul (June 14, 2019)
Questioner :
You began your talk very well with talking about the difference between an atheist and a believer. At least in that case, they agree on the topic of whether or not there is a God. Thatβs great.
Now talking about reunification, I think the situations are similar but different.
For example, among the various reunification efforts and movements including within the Jungtohoi (Jungto Society), there is a focus on what they are doing more than what the other part, maybe recipients, understand what they are doing.
There are so much confusion of people talking past each other. Simple example, somewhat relevant, is in the recent peace talks. There is not even agreement on what the summits are about like in Hanoi and Singapore, just the fact that they agreed to meet and talk past each other.
So my concern and I donβt know if itβs a question, is when people get involved with these reunification movements and spent a good amount of time, effort and money, Iβm not sure if they are really doing it more for reunification than for themselves as feeling good that they are doing something for a noble cause that is not well defined.
Because, ok, reunification. But what is reunification? Thereβs so many different opinions of what that would actually be.
So I wonder maybe the Jungtohoi (Jungto Society) should be focusing its resources on other things such as elimination of the death penalty in South Korea or giving opportunities for conscientious objectors to find acceptable roles in society rather than compulsory military service.
So Iβm not criticizing the Jungtohoi (Jungto Society), but Iβm just raising my concerns about allocations of resources and time.
I understand the corn donation is very noble and hopefully the corn will be given to the people who are actually hungry and not simply the people who do not actually need that food.
But it could be a situation where people feel good about raising money for the corn for North Korea when in fact it may not be so purposeful. But it makes them feel good.
So I donβt know if I have a real question but only a simple concern that may not even be appropriate for this format. But here I am.
Well I think we are all in agreement on these facts, and Iβm in total agreement with you on this, but I think thereβs maybe a problem of communication.
Because what you are talking about is more along the lines of peace or humanitarian efforts than a reunification.
So maybe itβs a problem within the Jungtohoi (Jungto Society) rather than yourself, but if you are talking about reunification rather than humanitarian relief, itβs very confusing for people who do not know in detail what you are trying to achieve.
So the quick result will be the South to accept North Korea leadership. Because you know how to be more flexible and more compromising.
So maybe we should simply accept the Pyongyang government to be the ruling government for the entire peninsula and weβll be reunified.
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his words in english so accurate
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12:10 μΈκ΅μ¬λλ€μ μΌλ¨ λΆνμ μ΄λ€ κ²½μ°μμλ λμμ€μλ μλλ€λ μ μ₯μμ μμνλκ΅°μ. λ¨νμΈμ²λΌ κ°μ λ―Όμ‘±μ΄λΌλ κ°λ μ΄λ λΆλ¨μ μνκΉμμ΄ μκΈ°μ κ·Έλ΄ μ λ°μ μλκ² κ°μ΅λλ€. μ§λ¬Έμκ° λμ€μλ λλκ³ 'κ·Έλ₯ λΆν μ λΆλ³΄κ³ ν΅μΌνλΌ νμμ£ ?' μ΄λ° λΉκΌ¬λ μ§λ¬Έλ νλ€μ.
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μ¬κΈ°μ μ€λμ "μ μμ΄ μΌμ΄λλ©΄ λ¨λΆλΏλ§ μλλΌ μΈκ³ μ μ²΄κ° ν° νΌν΄λ₯Ό λ³Όκ²μ΄λ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ κ·Έ μ μμ΄ μ건 ν¬κ±΄ μΈκ΅ μ μ₯μμ μμμ 보λ΄κ³ λ©λ¦¬μ μΈμ°μ§λ§, νλ°λλ μμ μ κ΅ν μμ μΈμ°κ² λλ€. κ·Έλμ κ°μ₯ ν° ν¬μμκ° λλ κ²μ΄λ€. κ·Έλμ μ μμ μ λλ‘ μλλ€.λ¨λΆν ννλ μμ‘΄μ λ¬Έμ μ΄λ€." λΌλ λ΅λ³μ νμ κ² κ°μ΅λλ€.
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μ’μλ²λ¬Έ κ°μ¬ν©λλ€
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μ΄λ κ² μ§μ μ μΈ μ§λ¬Έκ³Ό μ§μ μ μΈ λ΅λ³λ ν° λμμ΄ λλ€κ³ μκ°ν©λλ€. λ³΄ν΅ λ―Όκ°μΈλ€μ λ§μ£Όλ³μ΄ λΆμ‘±ν΄μ μ§μ μ μΈ μ§λ¬Έμ λΉν©ν΄νκ³ λμ²λ₯Ό μ νμ§ λͺ»νλλ°, μ€λμ²λΌ λ§μ£Όλ³λ μ’μΌμκ³ μ 보λ λ§μΌμ λΆμ΄ μ΄λ €μ΄ μ§λ¬Έλ€μ λ΅νλκ±Έ 보면μ λ―Όκ°μΈλ€μκ² λμμ΄ λ§μ΄ λ©λλ€.
No war only peace. μΌλ³΄κ·μ
Excellent!
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μμ΄ μ¦λ¬Έμ¦μ€λ λ§μμ Έμ μ°Έ μ’μμ!
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νμλ€μ μν΄μλ μ μμ μλ©λλ€. κ°μμ μμΉμμ κ°μκ° ν μ μλ μΌμ ν λΏμ λλ€.
μ¬κΈ° λκΈλ€ 보λκΉ νΉμ κ·Ήμ°λ¨μ²΄μκ² μ’νκ° μ°νκ² κ°λ€μ. λ€λ€ λΉμ·ν κ³μ μ΄λ¦μ λΉμ·ν λκΈλ€μ λΉμ·ν μκ°λμ κ³μ λ°λ³΅νκ³ μμ΅λλ€.
μ. λ€μμ΅λλ€^^
λ―Έκ΅μ¬λμ΄λΌλ©΄ λ―Όμ‘±κ°λ μ΄ μ½ν΄μ μμ΄λ‘보면 μ§μ§ 건쑰νκ² λκ»΄μ§λλ€. μ μ§λ¬Έμλ μ΄ν΄κ° κ°λλ€.
μ°Έ μλ¦λ€μ΄ μ¬λλ€
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μ°μ μ€λμ λ§μμ κ°μ¬λ립λλ€. νμ§λ§ λκ° μ μλ§λ€λ λλμ μ§μΈμ μμ΄ κΈμ μλλ€.
λ¨Όμ ν΅μΌκ³Ό ννλ μλ‘ λ€λ₯Έλ¬Έμ μ λλ€.
ν΅μΌμ΄ λλ©΄ ννκ° μ€λμ? ν΅μΌ λ ν μ£Όλ³κ΅κ³Όμ μΈμμ μ λ μΌμ΄λμ§ μλμ? μΈκ³μ¬λ₯Ό 보면 μΈλ₯ μμ¬μ μ μκ³Ό ννμ λ°λ³΅μ΄μμ΅λλ€. νν, μμ λ§νλ νꡬμ ννλΌλ κ²μ μ€μ²΄κ° μλ κ·Έμ κ°λ μΌ λΏμ λλ€. ννλ₯Ό κ·Έν λ‘ μΈμΉ(μ±λ¦¬νμμμ μ΄μν₯. balance) μ‘°μ μ λ§λ₯ ννλ₯Ό μΈμΉλ€κ° μΈμΉ¨-μμ§, μ μ , λ³μ λ§μ§λ§μ κ΅μΉ-μΌλ‘ λ§νμ§ μμμ΅λκΉ. νΌν΄λ κ·Έμ λ°±μ±λ€μ λͺ«μ΄μμ§μ.
μ§μ ννλ₯Ό λ°λΌλ©΄ κ·Έμ λ§λ νμ΄ μμ΄μΌ ννκ° μ΅λλ€. ννλΌλ건 λ΄κ° νκ³ μ ν΄μ λλκ²μ΄ μλκ³ μλλ°©μ΄ λ§μΆ°μ€μΌ λλκ²μ΄μ§μ. λ΄κ° μ무리 νν νν μΈμ³λ μλλ°©μ΄ μ΄λμ λ°λΌλ©΄ 그건 ννκ° λμ§ μκ² μ§μ.
μ΄λ° λ©΄μμ ννλ₯Ό μν΄ ν΅μΌμ νλ€λ λ Όλ¦¬λ λ무 λΉμ½μ μΈλ― ν©λλ€.
κ°μ λ―Όμ‘±μ μλ‘ νλμ κ΅κ°λ₯Ό μ΄λ£¨μ΄μΌ νλ€λ λ§λ λμνκΈ° μ΄λ ΅μ΅λλ€. μκ΅μ λ°±μΈμ λ―Έκ΅μΌλ‘ 건λκ° λ€λ₯Έ κ΅κ°λ₯Ό λ§λ€μκ³ , νΈμ£Όμλ λ€λ₯Έ κ΅κ°λ₯Ό λ§λ€μμ΅λλ€. μ΄ λλΌλ€μ΄ μλ‘ ν©μ³μΌ ν κΉμ? μ€λμ μ¬λ¬ μ’ μ‘±λ€ - μμ‘±, μλΌλΉμ, νλ₯΄μμ - λ±μ΄ μ΄κ³ μλλ°, κ΅κ°λ 3κ°λΏμΈκ°μ?
μ€μ μ°λ¦¬κ° κ²½κ³ν΄μΌ λ κ²μ nationalism μ λλ€. λ―Όμ‘±μ£Όμλ₯Ό νλ°©νλ©΄μ μΌλ§λ λ§μ μ μμ΄ μΌμ΄λ¬λμ§λ μΈκ³μ¬κ° λ§ν΄μ£Όκ³ μμ΅λλ€.
λμμμ΄ μ μμ΅λλ€.
"ν΅μΌμ΄ λλ©΄ ννκ° μ€λμ? ν΅μΌ λ ν μ£Όλ³κ΅κ³Όμ μΈμμ μ λ μΌμ΄λμ§ μλμ?", "μ§μ ννλ₯Ό λ°λΌλ©΄ κ·Έμ λ§λ νμ΄ μμ΄μΌ ννκ° μ΅λλ€."
> ν΅μΌμ΄ λλ©΄ μΈκ΅¬μκ° λκ³ , μν κ° λκ³ , κ΅λ ₯μ΄ ν₯μλκΈ°μ νμ΄ μκΈ°κ³ , κ·Έλ¬λ―λ‘ μ£Όλ³κ΅κ³Όμ μΈμμ΄ μΌμ΄λ¬μλ μ λ¦¬ν΄ μ§λλ€. κ·Έλ¬λ―λ‘ ννμ μ μ§ν μ μλ νμ΄ μκΉλλ€. νμ¬ λΆλ¨λ νλ°λλ νμ΄ μ½νκΈ°μ μ£Όλ³κ΅κ°μμ μΈμμ μμ£Ό κ±Έκ³ , μμ£Ό νμ²κ±°λ¦½λλ€.
"κ°μ λ―Όμ‘±μ μλ‘ νλμ κ΅κ°λ₯Ό μ΄λ£¨μ΄μΌ νλ€λ λ§λ λμνκΈ° μ΄λ ΅μ΅λλ€" "μ€λμ μ¬λ¬ μ’ μ‘±λ€ - μμ‘±, μλΌλΉμ, νλ₯΄μμ - λ±μ΄ μ΄κ³ μλλ°, κ΅κ°λ 3κ°λΏμΈκ°μ?"
> μ€λμμλ μΈκΈνμ κ΅κ°λ€λ³΄λ€ ν¨μ¬ λ λ§μ μ’ μ‘± μ μκ³Ό κ°λ±μ΄ μΌμ΄λκ³ μμ΅λλ€. λνμ μΌλ‘ μ΄μ€λΌμκ³Ό νλ μ€νμΈ, νλ₯΄μμμΈκ³Ό μλμΈ, ν¬λ₯΄ν¬μΈκ³Ό μΏ λ₯΄λμΈ, μλμΈκ³Ό λ² λ² λ₯΄μΈμ΄ μμ΅λλ€. 3κ° κ΅κ°λΏμ΄λΌλ건 κ°κ΄μ μ¬μ€μ΄ μλλλ€.
"μ€μ μ°λ¦¬κ° κ²½κ³ν΄μΌ λ κ²μ nationalism μ λλ€. λ―Όμ‘±μ£Όμλ₯Ό νλ°©νλ©΄μ μΌλ§λ λ§μ μ μμ΄ μΌμ΄λ¬λμ§λ μΈκ³μ¬κ° λ§ν΄μ£Όκ³ μμ΅λλ€."
> κ·Ήμ° nationalismμ νλ°©ν΄ μ μμ μΌμΌν¨κ²μ μΌλ³Έμ΄μ§ νκ΅μ΄ μλλλ€. κ·Έλ¦¬κ³ νμ¬ μΌλ³Έ μ λΆλ λ€μ 80λ μ κ·Ήμ° nationalismμ νλ°©νκ³ μμ΅λλ€. μ΄λ¬ν ν° μνμ λλΉν΄ κ΅λ ₯μ ν€μ°λ €κ³ λ λλΌκ° ν©νλ©΄ λμν νμ ν€μ°λ©΄ λκ° ν¨λΆλ‘ 곡격μ ν μ μμ΅λλ€. νλ°λμμ ννν΅μΌμ μ΄λ£¨λκ² μ μμ μΌμΌν¨λ€λ건 μλ€κ° λ§μ§ μλ κ΄΄λ‘ μ λλ€.
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