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Let us wait for Kepler's debut. I know most Kepler members have hidden talents that isn't showcased in the show. Let us wait for them to show it as a Kepler member.
I am not a fan of either group Vocals: Izone is much better in vocals, period. Not much to say here. Dance: Of course Izone has chaeyeon who is undoubtedly one of the best dancers in kpop but Kep1er has overall a better dance line, over half of them can be main dancers. Kep1er are better in dance category. Rap: Kep1er wins… clearly Visual: It depends on who you ask since beauty is subjective. For me, Izone has many visuals: Wonyoung, Hyewon, Minju, Sakura They are a very pretty group indeed. But Kep1er are also very pretty, all of them. They tie in visuals. Overall, please wait until Kep1er debuts. They will improve.
I have to disagree about dancers. Both are tied in dance. Chaeyeon, Yena, Eunbi, Yujin, Hitomi are dancer line but Chaewon, Sakura, Yuri, Nako and Minju have emerged as one of their dancer line as well. Hence why they're one of the most synchronized group. Hyewon never fell apart, she played a crucial role in every choreography, she's the one who run and dash everywhere to complete the choreography in SECONDS. She also have to matched Yena, who's now IZ*ONE's main dancer along with Chaeyeon, in their duo choreography and didn't fall apart at all. IMO, kep1er has not debuted yet I can't say whether they're better. IZ*ONE has great teamwork and each member complete one and another. And all of them have improved their dance so much they take turns in dance break. We just need kep1er to debut since we only have footages from Girls Planet 999 and IZ*ONE have been together for almost 3 years with a lot of footages and proof of improvements so it's not right to actually compare them.
@@dandandan-hn7fx and I said at the end it's not right to compare them since IZ*ONE already debuted for 3 years. Of course I'll include post-debut IZ*ONE since we're talking about their skill as a whole not pre-debut?
@@dandandan-hn7fx if we're talking about pre-debut, they're tied since like I said Chaeyeon, Yena, Eunbi, Wonyoung, and Hitomi already dancer lines since Produce 48. And even then Chaewon is also already a great dancer, she was just not recognized by people since Eunbi overshadowed her during audition.
Well I don't know why i got the feeling that in the kep1er they're much versatile, but they didn't show it yet in the gp 999. Maybe it's only my intuition, not sure
I think all of the kep1er member are all talented and they can be a main in every position and this upcoming debut of theirs is that they will rotate their positions because they are most suitable in every position
@@jkgosolo chaehyun is a good main vocal. and with more improvent so many more could be main and lead vocal material also are you an ot8 cause hiyyih?🤨
When it comes to vocal it's Iz*one 8 out of twelve members can be the main vocalist while in rap it's obviously Kep1er (they're so good🔥) coz Iz*one actually doesn't have a rapper when they debuted they even assigned Yena to be the main rapper when in fact she trained as a vocalist. Then in dancing I think (my opinion only!!) is Kep1er And in visuals both group
Are Izones vocals really that good that they can be the main vocals in groups like aespa, twice, red velvet, blackpink, weekly and many others? I think maybe Yuri has a chance but the rest are definitely lead vocal material. What you said sounds really biased because most of them aren't main vocal material, they are good and above average but when you think of main vocals you imagine someone like Wendy, Jihyo, Ningning, Monday and Rose.
@@lachainedestrucsnulle1211 Well i can say you 6 (idk who are the other who can be main vocal sorry) Yuri, Chaewon, Nako, Eunbi, Yujin, Chaeyeon & Yena
Vocal: IZ*ONE (Almost all the member can sing the highnotes like in “o sole mio”) Dance: Both (I think if we take a look at them as a whole group, they have a stronger dance line, on the other hand IZ*ONE definitely got the synchronization. But still, we need to see more from Kep1er) Rap: Kep1er (I think it’s because they have Youngeun and Hikaru who had already showed their rapping skills from the beginning that made me choose them?) Visual: I won’t say anything cause they’re beautiful in their own way
In terms of skills, I can't help but think that Kep1er is way more well balanced and skilled group than Iz*One was in their debut. 5/9 could easily be main dancers, 7/9 of the girls could make part of the vocal line (either main or lead), 5/9 rappers. They are a very skilled group with a lot of room and time for growth and improvement.
i agree. i hope they all improve in the positions that they're already amazing at, but also the ones they're least good at. there's always room for improvement.
I think Izone and Kep1er are pretty on par in terms of dancing skill but I believe Izones vocal line is better and more well rounded than Kep1ers while Kep1ers rap line is much better than Izone. In general I think Izone has more aces/all rounders as well with Yena, Eunbi, Chaeyeon, Ahn Yujin and arguably Chaewon. Kep1er has Youngeun and Dayeon, maybe Choi Yujin. They’re both skilled imo. While Kep1er is more balanced though, Izone has more “stand outs”
@@_heyoo true that is also a fair point. But they also had more members that are less “skilled” in areas of singing, dancing, etc. Which is why I said Kep1er is more balanced and Izone has more “stand outs” of talented members. In reality its pretty hard to compare the two bc their concepts, number of members, and members themselves are quite different
@@abbcd that's what I thought too, Iz*One had members like Eunbi and Chaeyeon, but Kep1er doesn't have a member who standout from the others, the most all-rounded one is Young Eun (main vocal, main dancer and lead rapper material), and yet she doesn't outshine the others.
First.. why you didn’t include youngeun’s high note on u+me and her rap on kick it???? she’s such an ace!! second, let’s wait for girls debut, we can’t compare each other without knowing their skills well
Vocal : for now izone cause we are yet to see kep1er through albums Rap : kep1er Dance : izone for now(and no one can replace chaeyeon not even isone 😛), we are yet to see kep1er as a group how great they are though i love all members dancing skills Visual : Both (for me idol group is greater or lesser in terms of visual 😁)
Just an honest opinion and this is based on their performances on Pd48 and GP999 Visual - (undoubtedly) Kim Minju Dance - (Undoubtedly) Lee Chaeyeon Vocals - (Undoubtedly) Jo Yuri Rap - (Undoubtedly) Ezaki Hikaru.
Vocal : izone now. But of course we will see kep1er real vocal after they're debut. They have potential. Waiting for chaehyun and youngeun main vocal Dance : half of kep1er's member could be main dancer. So kep1er Rap : kep1er Visual : depends on your type. But for me personally, I like kepler's visual more because they give me strong aura
Izone had set the standard too high; made it kinda hard for Kep1er to live up to that 😂 In terms of vocal, Izone's definitely the lead (Yuri, Chaewon, Eunbi, Yena, Chaeyeon, Nako, Yujin; they're unstoppable). In terms of dance, Kep1er sure has some very great dancers (Dayeon, Xiaoting, Yeongeun, Yujin, Hikaru, Yeseo); but none of them (as of now) can beat Chaeyeon in terms of skill and fluidity😂 (Eunbi, Chaewon, Yena, Yujin, Hitomi, even Sakura, Minju and Wonyoung are very good dancers who constantly improve every stage performance and comebacks). So I would say Kep1er and Izone are kinda at the same level when it comes to Dance as a whole group but in terms of individual, Chaeyeon definitely is the top. In terms of rap, Kep1er 100% took the win. They have so many great main rapper material (Dayeon, Yeongeun, Hikaru) and lead rapper material (Yujin, Xiaoting, Mashiro); whereas Izone have decent rapper (Yena, Chaeyeon, Minju, Hyewon) but they're not that superior when it comes in comparison with other girl group's main rapper. In terms of visual, THEY'RE BOTH WINNERS!!!! STUNNING✨ I really look forward for Kep1er debut stage and all of their comebacks ❤️ I hope they'll grow stronger as a group and give a smack to all those haters out there who said that they'll fail as a group! I believe they'll improve each and every comeback just like Izone！ I still miss Izone so much 😭
Not them saying izone only has chaeyeon as main dancer and 6/9 kelper members can be main dancers. Hello?? Chaeyeon - no one can reach her levels Eunbi - official main dancer along with CY Yena - auditioned as main dancer, debuted as main rapper Hitomi- has better techniques, can learn the choreo very fast Chaewon, Yujin and Wonyoung trained for only a year and already getting lead dancer positions.
What do you base yourself on for the vocal? According to technique and stability? Is that what defines a singer? Well, according to my criteria I prefer a singer maybe with a less* technical but with a singular voice, which is the case for kep1er, and not for izone which is rather stable but ordinary ! 🙂
@@rianlin okay i understand your vocal preference but saying izone is ordinary is really wrong. Jo Yuri is known as a main vocal with a great and unique tone, yujin has also a voice you can recognize everywhere, yena raspy but sweet, chaewon angel, eunbi powerful... respect their vocals. (and that's not what defines a singer, it defines a good singer)
iz*one was such a talented group where almost everyone were in a vocal-line and half of them are great dancers and chaeyeon is just top tier, also they have stage geniuses like yena and wonyoung. also one of the prettiest visual line minju, sakura and hyewon are no joke, especially minju. her beauty is just wow. and yena was just an amazing all rounded, imagine being a main rapper, lead vocalist with main vocalist potential and also lead dancer with main dancer potential. iz*one was such a gem in this industry, no one can beat them for me. hyewon rap in boombayah was legendary too x)
Vocals: Izone. They had Chaewon, Yena, Eunbi, and my girl Yuri. Kep1er has Youngeun and Chaehyun that shined, with Mashiro closely behind and Yujin as good filler and while I do love these four, non are Yuri level technique. Chaehyun and Youngeun both have huge potential though- i will say though, i personally think Kep1er's singing has better emotion in it at least in a pre-debut standpoint. Pre-debut Izone was more that they could hit high notes well... Rap- this one HAS to go to Kepler. Izone had Yena be a decent filler rapper, but Kep1er have Hikaru, Dayeon, Youngeun and Xiaoting. Doesn't compare at all really... Dance - Look obviously Izone's Chaeyeon is God tier. But other than that, they have solid Eunbi and everyone else is decent/could use more work. Kep1er doesn't have a Chaeyeon but they are definitely more solid at dancing overall with Xiaoting, Yeseo, Dayeon, Hikaru, and Youngeun, with the others not too far behind. They won't have a singular pop off performance like Chaeyeon, but their whole-group performances may be more fun to watch in the future. Visuals- this is sooo subjective obviously, both the groups are so beautiful though. I dont think its fair to compare now though, as Kep1er will shine even brighter once they debut and have a more consistent make up work done and stylists. I am really looking forward to Kep1ers debut, I am hoping they go for a hard-core concept with how solid their dance and rap line is. Izone's was more alluring and ethereal, which I also loved.
i think you miss a lot of members in izone. For dance line, izone has chaeyeon, eunbi, yena, yujin, chaewon, sakura, hitomi and eunbi. I am pretty sure both Yena and Yujin can beat Hikaru Xiaoting and Youngeun or even better than them. If you compare yeseo to minju and hitomi, they are pretty much the same. Even before debut, you could see how synchronized each group performance while gp999 performance look a little bit messy. I don't think Yena, Yujin, Chaewon, Hitomi and Minju are weaker than kep1er members even during produce 48. Even yuri, hyewon somehow dance better than some kep1er members during produce 48.
Guys please watch sorry not sorry, side to side, touch and rumore. You will see how well izone members dance during produce 48. They are much stronger than kep1er.
In the beginning of PD48, Eunbi was thought as one of the best dancers in the show but then she was compared to Chaeyeon and no one talked about her like that again. lol I think Eunbi is comparable to kep1er's top dancers
@@TheNaruto55221 I sure that kep1er has a better dance line overall as a group remember that they are 9 and iz*one 12 so ofc they will have more dancers also kep1er are about to debut just now meanwhile iz*one has 3 years of debut so we can’t compare but in my opinion kep1er are better
@@blinkot4254 we are all comparing when they are still in the shows. For those examples i have listed are the one who choose Dance position during the concept evaluation. Everyone is comparing when they are yet to debut. Wonyoung, Yena, Yujin, Eunbi, Hitomi, Minju, Chaeyeon have all selected dance position durinh pd48. It's not about number of people man, it's about skills. Before debut, most members in izone are being recognized as good dancers. Even the ratio of good dancers in izone are larger than the ratio in kep1er. Still izone is being recognized by everyone to be one of the best dance group even before debut.
For me Kep1er has a better dance line. I mean, you can't base a whole group dance in one member(chaeyeon). Kep1er has so many strong dancers : Hikaru, Xiaoting, Youngeun, Yujin, Dayeon
@@clubdefans4176 izone they have main dancer material besides chaeyeon, if you know eunbi is main dancer and they have 5 lead dancer (yena, yujin, hitomi, chaewon and also wonyoung) and i think yena can be main dancer if she's in another girls group, because chaeyeon and eunbi are very strong in dancing positions they are hard to get rid of especially chaeyeon
For me: Vocals: Iz*one Rap: Kep1er Dancing: Kepl1er. Even tho Iz*one has some stronge dancers Kep1ers strong point is def dancing with most of the group having main dancer potencial Visuals: Both.
@@teruhashipleasenocrimefav5815 kep1er visual is more diverse. Xiaoting, Chaehyun, Yeseo, Yujin is killing it with their Korean Beauty Standart, and Hiyyih is what international fans like. Hikaru is something different.
Vocal - IZ*ONE Rap - KEP1ER Dance - IZ*ONE (Chaeyeon is a must but also remember Eunbi, Yena , Yujin ,Chaewon too they are one of the best in pd48) Visual - IZ*ONE
i don't want to say this beacuse kotone and hikaru are close in bts but in they performed rap parts together in bombayh but only hikaru's lines were iconic and got applause from many viewers and mentors
Yesterday i advanced search my twitter timeline when izone was introduced and gosh it was crazy , much crazier than kep1er. For Kep1er of we are being honest, based on the voting system, except for one, 8/9 of the girls were already expected to debut. Some we expected may not debut but this line up was more realistic than izone. I remember people hating Hyewon at the time but realistically speaking she was expected to make it cause her rank was pretty consistent in the show just like how Bahiyyih is somehow expected in the line up with one pick system. One pick system was her ticket to the line up because she has a strong fandom, idk why people think she is rigged in. If this was actually rigged i assure you strong vocalists like Bora would make it. Yuri and Chaewon and Chaeyeon’s ranking was also surprising at the time, but this time people if you think about the one pick system and 50%korean votes the rankings were expected to change a lot, i don’t understand why people thinks it is manipulated, there might be some manipulation here and there but i doubt that. Kep1er might not have exceptional vocals like Iz*one line but these girls are very balanced talent wise, they can all sing and dance well, and I am anticipating their debut. Hyewon and Minju gets hate a lot and Wonyo as the center too but look they are amazing and i didn’t like Hyewon making the line up at that time either, but she is my bias wrecker now, you never know until they debut. So those being ot8 right now, give it time and i am sure Bahiyyih will proof everyone of you wrong too . P.s from my look back on timeline literally no one likes the name iz*one at the time, especially the asterick, but look where we are now it slide off our lips smoothly 😹 so Kep1er will grow on us (i hope 😫)
i agree with what you said lol. personally kep1er just sounds... ugly to me. (and like a boy group? lol) but it's something new so we just need more time to get used to it!
@@haylynshon7514 yeah i totally get it, maybe it's because i started stanning iz*one a year after debut, so it wasn't so much of a new name for me, and i've always loved the name :)
Vocal : IZ*ONE Dance : IZ*ONE cuz chae and also yena, eunbi etc..can make some chores u know but its also subjective one Rap : Kep1er Visual : yeap its subjective but i prefer IZ*ONE cuz idk maybe its bcs ive known for a longer time and 3MCs, HIVE girls and Hyewon I think It's too early to compare the two groups and i love them both
Vocals: If I were to base it as a whole group (not based on the positions), kep1er is a bit better since all of them can actually "sing", not the best but they still sound good. I'm not saying that all of Iz*one is not good singing but there are members whose singing is not their biggest strength. Rap: Kep1er Dance: Both groups are strong dancers, but Iz*one just wow. Visuals: All of them are gorgeous! But Xiaoting ughhhhhhhh 🥺😍❤ Overall, both groups are really good!! I'm excited to see what Kep1er is about to bring. Rooting for them and also to Iz*one ☺
Thou, kep1er is more good in rap Hikaru,Dayeon,Youngeun and Yujin because she can really rap really well for Xiaoting she can rap to but she needs to improve her diction
Best vocalist(not saying main vocalist since kep1er doesnt have positions yet): Iz*one Vocal line: Izone Best dancer: Iz*one Dance line: Kep1er Best rapper: Kep1er Rap line: Kep1er Best visual (subjective, this is just my opinion): Iz*one (Wonyoung it girl!) Overall group visual: Kep1er
The vocal line is totally Izone no kep1er only has Chaehyun, Youngeun and maybe Yujin who could have high notes already in izone yuri, eunbi yena and maybe Yujin with Chaeyeon
I never buy album of izone because i dnt like the line up 😅. But i really happy when chaewon, yuri and chaeyeon is debut so i still support them. Then this KEP1ER i would obviously buy their album in December. Im rooting for the debut single 😊. Im sad that bora shes not make it .
I used to dislike izones lineup too but after hearing their music i couldnt help but keep buying their albums and now i have all versions of their album. Lol. And same with kepler i hate this lineup alot. So for now i dont feel like stanning or supporting kepler at all. But if i like their music then it will be a whole different story.
@@ashe5230 Kep1er has amazing dancer too like Youngeun, Dayeon,Xiaoting , Yujin,,Yeseo (most of them do really well in contemporary dance).. but I have to say.. pd48 dance break..like how Chaeyeon n Eunbi slay it with those flexible kicks n backs..
It's funny to compare seniors who have been 3 years since their debut with a new group and say they are better than the senior group like its so funny it's better for you to compare it to a group that just debuted, not to a senior who has debuted for years and is very experienced in the music, and just so you know, even though yujin has debuted a long time ago but in izone there are eunbi, nako, hitomi and even sakura who have been in the music entertainment before yujin
Basing this on the PRE-DEBUT days of Iz*One and Kep1er since it's fairer that way Vocal: Iz*One - for those who watched gp999, y'all know how worried we were that Kep1er wasn't gonna have a main vocal because of how many dancers were always in the top 9 and eventually debuted...Iz*One has some crazy powerhouses that eventually made it so this goes to them. Rap: Kep1er - I think this is the most obvious one because they have Hikaru, Yongeun, Dayeon, and Xiaoting. Dance: Kep1er - more than half of the group's main forte is dance...so even though Iz*One has some strong dancers that debuted and have always been amazing with their craft, I think Kep1er takes this one because of how many people can pass as lead/main dancer~ Visual: Iz*One - As many people said, it is subjective but I think Iz*One's visuals are more...cohesive and closer to Korean beauty standards in a way? But Kep1er has GORGEOUS visuals as well so I think we just need to see how they look together as a group once they debut. Again, this was based on skills during the pre-debut era of Iz*One since Kep1er hasn't debuted yet (also, this is all just my own opinion) =]
Vocal: IZ*ONE Dance: IZ*ONE Rap: Kep1er Visual: IZ*ONE How can i say it? IZ*ONE have the best talented member in every aspects (except rap), like yuri eunbi for vocal chaeyeon for dance and sakura/minju/wonyoung as visual. In another way, kep1er as a group have member that more balanced like almost of the member are talented. But ofc it can change how much kep1er members will improve in the future
Ezaki(Kep1er) nailed the rap and Chaeyeon (Iz*one) herself is enough to win the dance. Excited for how Kep1er will grow and perform on stage for the first time. I feels like their potential are not fully shown in the show.
my analysis : vocal : iz*one , they have jo yuri who is arguably the best vocalist of the 4th gen, since 4th gen groups really do not have the need for a main vocal anymore, and even high note belters like eunbi. HOWEVER, the average vocal level of kep1er is higher, since even if we take the weakest vocalist (probably) bahiyyih, she is still way better than minju and hyewon were at debut, and overall they can hold their own better individually. but iz*one wins cause they have jo yuri and eunbi , and even nako and chaeyeon and chaewon. rap : kep1er. there is no competition here... iz*one doesn't have a dedicated rapper, and even yena and hyewon are nowhere close to hikaru and dayeons level. just their demo stages are enough to show that. dance : kep1er is slightly better than iz*one was at debut... chaeyeon and eunbi are both amazing, but dance is not the strong point of iz*one as a group, synchronisation is. in contrast, in kep1er we have xiaotings amazingly powerful dance (eg snake), dayeons whole SELF CHOREOGRAPHED ice cream, and hikarus self choreographed no excuses. youngeun is also main dancer material and she's an ace at bg dances, and yeseo is too. even the 'weakest' dancers in kep1er like chaehyun or bahiyyih and above izones average. visual : iz*one is famous for being a visual heavy group with hyewon, minju, wonyoung, chaewon, eunbi, sakura etc. so they're definitely winning. however in Kep1er we have xiaoting, chaehyun, yeseo, mashiro, bahiyyih who are very pretty too, so it's not bad overall : VOCAL : izone > Kepler DANCE : Kepler > izone RAP : Kepler > izone VISUAL : izone > Kepler
Idk why people keep saying bahiyyih is the weakest in vocal things, imo her voice is pretty stable, she even took the same part like mashiro in fiesta, and definitely her vocal's better than hyewon's
@@fiona3275 I didn't say she's weak in vocals, she's good, but Kepler's average vocal line is good cause even the rappers like hikaru, xiaoting are good at singing
I agree with your opinion especially in the dance part though it's not only Chaeyeon and Eunbi who did great since the beginning, in pre debut, Yujin and Yena was the big talk also if they're gonna be part of the main ancer line because that is what they major in, dancing. Overall, the way you said your opinion is nice and composed, that's great
@Moa yes, bahiyyih is a stable singer, she just needs a bit more confidence, which xiaoting and hikaru have more so they shine on stage when singing... bahiyyih is my bias and I think she's great, and I'm excited to see how she'll improve
I think ranking both the group atm isn't fair cuz we don't know what's kep1er's full potential as they didn't debut yet. And if we're ranking them rn we should only use clips from the survival show
i think people here are undermining the visual category izone possess, even from debut till now they were known as the visual group. the haters called them 'only visual' and they were praised all around for having great visuals objectively three people are fighting for main visual position (Sakura,Hyewon &Minju) and followed by yujin, wonyoung and eunbi who are visuals if they are not in izone. you can argue all you want who is better in vocal dance or rap but visual is sealed for izone even when comaparing to other groups. and visual is not something you can improve.
@@ooogabooga4836 the fact that your reason is exotic and flavor already means that its a subjective opinion, visuals are indeed subjective but when ranking visuals it is possible to rank them using korean standards which by that blows everyone in kepler in which only xiaoting can go head to head.
In my opinion 🖤 Vocal : iz*one Rap :kep1er Dance :I would say kep1er as a group but iz*one have THE Chaeyeon (i don’t know how to explain it) Visual: both 🖤
@@liagorang9064 you're being biased. Ofc once kep1er train together, they will learn how to tone down their power to match the other members. Overall, kep1er has a better dance line, everyone in the group are all great dancers and 4 could be main dancers.
Vocal: iz*one for now. there are no weak vocals in kep1er but they don't have a wide range also (though their technique is great) Rap: kep1er (hikaru, youngeun, dayeon, sxt) Dance: kep1er cuz all members are great dancers. 4 could be main dancers. (Though chaeyeon is on another level, we're talking about the overall lineup here) Visuals: beauty is subjective but Iz*one has minju and kep1er has sxt.
But they have. Chaehyun is great but not for main vocal. Yongeun can’t beat anyone on Izone’s vocal line honestly, she loterally shouted during u+me and was sooooo nasal. The rest aren’t even vocal line materials except Mashiro.
@@ggstan2439 If you don't like kep1er just say and find out but that Chaehyun made a mistake in 2 performances because of nervousness is she is yes a main vocal material, it is Youngeun I say nothing like her and an all rounder
@@ggstan2439 And Chaehyun only has this problem that in addition to demanding too much is being too perfectionist, she ends up making mistakes when she gets nervous, but she rocks that only when she's not worried or nervous ok!!
@@ggstan2439 I wonder why so many of you despise her just because she was wrong being that it was obvious that she was nervous is that she ended up being a perfectionist and wanted everything to come out perfect!! She is human and can make mistakes she doesn't have to do everything right!! She's a human like us who also make mistakes
So far I can say Kep1er's vocal line is too weak... I mean Chaehyun, YoungEun, Yujin and YeSeo are good vocal lines but they don't have the ideal range to say that they're vocally strong. Also, Bahyih?, Xiaoting and Dayeon's vocals aren't really suitable for the main nor lead vocal position. Many of the gp999 final members are good rappers tho', so, Kep1er's concept might go more into hip-hop. While in dancing, no one can beat Chaeyeon 😅 she's too good... But if as a grp. I think it will be Kep1er.
@@ooogabooga4836 No need to get petty like that- ofc the original commenter would know they have disbanded already. But this video is literally about them, too, so it’s a no duh that they mentioned IZ*ONE.
To summarize: Iz*One -Better Overall Vocals (Eunbi, Chaeyeon and Chaewon can easily slip as main vocals in other groups) -Decent Rap -Better Main Dancers (Lee Chaeyeon is the best 4th gen dancer periadt) Kep1er -Decent Vocals -Better Rappers (KIm Dayeon and Hikaru slaysss) -Better Overall Dancers (Most of the members are Lead Dancer Material) I love both groups and both of them are great
bread all of your comments argued and disagreed when someone praised kep1er it's so obvious u hate them or something give them a fucking chance they haven't even debut yet you're literally everywhere
Iz*one members' skills now are beyond from produce era. All of them improve especially the aces so I don't think comparing them with Kep1er is valid. This new group needs to prove themselves first. Note: The group chemistry is the most important thing here and Kep1er should work on that more especially Iz*one's group chemistry is far superior.
IZ * ONE are super talented and I miss them so much. I do not know the other group, I imagine they are good. But I don't understand why to place them in the same video. For many WIZ * ONE it is a sensitive issue.
Vocals: IZ*ONE Rap: Kep1er Dance: sort of equal with dance, kepler has more well rounded members in terms of performance and dancing, they also have pretty good choreography skills and almost everyone can at least be lead dancers. But, the thing is they don't have someone like lee chaeyeon and even kwon eunbi who is on top in terms of dancing withink kpop female dancers. Synchronization will also play part but just seeing the performances in pd48 and gp999, I think izone has the upper hand in synchronization. So overall, you can't really rank the two groups in dance
We didn't see the performance of kep1er so we can't say that in case in synchronization Izone is the best just wait for their dance practice if they are synchronize well
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Please make ioi version video.
@@kainaa415 yesss but imo it would be hard to top i.o.i for any produce/mnet group
Let us wait for Kepler's debut. I know most Kepler members have hidden talents that isn't showcased in the show. Let us wait for them to show it as a Kepler member.
Yep! We can only se a glimpse of their talent in the show ther are 2.6 years to go to witness their growth as an artist
Indeed like ezaki's vocal hehe i wanna see her sing more
@@hoo52 Yes!! Her voice seemed so nice in 'Another Dream'!!
Yes yes I'm sure of it, they need to push lil bit, then their vocal will blooming
@@hoo52 yes exactly, I'm sure she can perform high notes as well
Vocal : iz*one
Rap : kep1er
Dance : Both
Visual : Both
agree
They just missing Bora lmao
but i think visual izone is better
@@arindo8022 ikr
I think Kep1er are better dancers.
6/9 could easily be main dancer while in iz*one there’s only Chaeyeon Eunbi and Hitomi!
guys, before arguing which group is better, remember that kep1er hasn't even debuted yet!!
They only used clips from the survival program produce 48 which means they represented the pre debut izone so I think it's fair
@@seonghwaseong6056 yea they only used clips from produce 48 and gp 999 so this is before both groups debuted.
Iz*one still better lol just the name
I want to like your comment but it ends with a 69
Izone hasn't debuted yet in those videos
I'm sorry but BRRRR RAMBO rap by Hikaru is on the next level ✨🥵🤘
Hyewon’s lambo forever iconic
@@Jjangbunbun i dont even know what ur talking about. what lambo?
@@Jjangbunbun awwn lol
@@khachhor5505 lambo tan
Bora and Jiyoon were my favorite vocalists. Bora's falsetto high notes and Jiyoon's powerful belting would've been a fatal combo 🥰
Me too!
Bora and Jiyoon always made me the best vocalists on the show, it was a great idea to put them together in the demos
I don't know why they keep mentioning apprentices who won't debut in Kep1er, it's pointless.
Me = Bora whistle voice💕
Literally because nobody in KepLER can sing without cracking
I am not a fan of either group
Vocals: Izone is much better in vocals, period. Not much to say here.
Dance: Of course Izone has chaeyeon who is undoubtedly one of the best dancers in kpop but Kep1er has overall a better dance line, over half of them can be main dancers. Kep1er are better in dance category.
Rap: Kep1er wins… clearly
Visual: It depends on who you ask since beauty is subjective.
For me, Izone has many visuals: Wonyoung, Hyewon, Minju, Sakura
They are a very pretty group indeed. But Kep1er are also very pretty, all of them. They tie in visuals.
Overall, please wait until Kep1er debuts. They will improve.
I have to disagree about dancers. Both are tied in dance. Chaeyeon, Yena, Eunbi, Yujin, Hitomi are dancer line but Chaewon, Sakura, Yuri, Nako and Minju have emerged as one of their dancer line as well. Hence why they're one of the most synchronized group. Hyewon never fell apart, she played a crucial role in every choreography, she's the one who run and dash everywhere to complete the choreography in SECONDS. She also have to matched Yena, who's now IZ*ONE's main dancer along with Chaeyeon, in their duo choreography and didn't fall apart at all. IMO, kep1er has not debuted yet I can't say whether they're better. IZ*ONE has great teamwork and each member complete one and another. And all of them have improved their dance so much they take turns in dance break. We just need kep1er to debut since we only have footages from Girls Planet 999 and IZ*ONE have been together for almost 3 years with a lot of footages and proof of improvements so it's not right to actually compare them.
i agree with everything u said!!
@@dapuruju9910 you said Kepler didn't debuted yet but you compare them with post debut izone. Just from this clip we know Kepler have best dancer line
@@dandandan-hn7fx and I said at the end it's not right to compare them since IZ*ONE already debuted for 3 years. Of course I'll include post-debut IZ*ONE since we're talking about their skill as a whole not pre-debut?
@@dandandan-hn7fx if we're talking about pre-debut, they're tied since like I said Chaeyeon, Yena, Eunbi, Wonyoung, and Hitomi already dancer lines since Produce 48. And even then Chaewon is also already a great dancer, she was just not recognized by people since Eunbi overshadowed her during audition.
It's been only 3 days since the official announcement of Kep1er's lineup, and we already have vids like this comparing them to IZ*ONE lmao 💀🤣
tbf this is pd48 era. title should've included "(pd48 era vs gp999 era)"
tbh this vid is funny xD
Well I don't know why i got the feeling that in the kep1er they're much versatile, but they didn't show it yet in the gp 999. Maybe it's only my intuition, not sure
@@hexagonn6803 kpop fan vibe hahhahaha
The same thing happened with IOI when IZ*ONE was announced hahahaha is inevitable I guess
I think all of the kep1er member are all talented and they can be a main in every position and this upcoming debut of theirs is that they will rotate their positions because they are most suitable in every position
Omg you're so right can't wait for main vocal bahiyyih!! 😍🔥
@@oddeyecircle1336 can't tell if you're trolling or not..
@@oddeyecircle1336 bahiyyih is the group's fault, who should be in her place was bora, we don't have a main vocal
@@jkgosolo chaehyun is a good main vocal. and with more improvent so many more could be main and lead vocal material
also
are you an ot8 cause hiyyih?🤨
@@hanmira chaehyun isnt that good and kpop vocalists barely improve anyways.
honestly both izone and kep1er dance line are great but it's Chaeyeon who made the standard for both group
IoI who made the standard in vocal, rap, visual and dance..
Chungha actually
Yes truee,
Hikaru is the standard I must say
@@victoriakim4780 Chungha isn't from IZ*One nor Kep1er, what are you talking about??
Kep1er hasn’t even debuted yet but their skill level is pretty good and they still have 2.6 years to grow even more
When it comes to vocal it's Iz*one 8 out of twelve members can be the main vocalist while in rap it's obviously Kep1er (they're so good🔥) coz Iz*one actually doesn't have a rapper when they debuted they even assigned Yena to be the main rapper when in fact she trained as a vocalist. Then in dancing I think (my opinion only!!) is Kep1er And in visuals both group
Who's the 8th ? I just know that the vocal line and Nako Who's the 8?
Are Izones vocals really that good that they can be the main vocals in groups like aespa, twice, red velvet, blackpink, weekly and many others? I think maybe Yuri has a chance but the rest are definitely lead vocal material. What you said sounds really biased because most of them aren't main vocal material, they are good and above average but when you think of main vocals you imagine someone like Wendy, Jihyo, Ningning, Monday and Rose.
In centre Kep1er loose since the 8 members are better in centre than Chaehyun
@@baddieuw3795 Chaehyun isn't tjat great tho for Main Vocal too and since she's the best vocalist of the group
@@lachainedestrucsnulle1211 Well i can say you 6 (idk who are the other who can be main vocal sorry) Yuri, Chaewon, Nako, Eunbi, Yujin, Chaeyeon & Yena
Vocal: IZ*ONE (Almost all the member can sing the highnotes like in “o sole mio”)
Dance: Both (I think if we take a look at them as a whole group, they have a stronger dance line, on the other hand IZ*ONE definitely got the synchronization. But still, we need to see more from Kep1er)
Rap: Kep1er (I think it’s because they have Youngeun and Hikaru who had already showed their rapping skills from the beginning that made me choose them?)
Visual: I won’t say anything cause they’re beautiful in their own way
I think you forgot dayeon
lol u include kep1er's demo stage but u didnt include IZ*ONE's, ofc they improved.
I miss IZONE so much but they have so much more to learn.
i think you phrased ur comment kinda weirdly haha, people will think you’re saying izone have so much more to learn
Iz*one are experts
@@Jjangbunbun nope
@@khachhor5505 Yes
@@khachhor5505 they are ofc experts🙌🙌♥️
In terms of skills, I can't help but think that Kep1er is way more well balanced and skilled group than Iz*One was in their debut. 5/9 could easily be main dancers, 7/9 of the girls could make part of the vocal line (either main or lead), 5/9 rappers. They are a very skilled group with a lot of room and time for growth and improvement.
i agree. i hope they all improve in the positions that they're already amazing at, but also the ones they're least good at. there's always room for improvement.
I think Izone and Kep1er are pretty on par in terms of dancing skill but I believe Izones vocal line is better and more well rounded than Kep1ers while Kep1ers rap line is much better than Izone. In general I think Izone has more aces/all rounders as well with Yena, Eunbi, Chaeyeon, Ahn Yujin and arguably Chaewon. Kep1er has Youngeun and Dayeon, maybe Choi Yujin. They’re both skilled imo. While Kep1er is more balanced though, Izone has more “stand outs”
@@abbcd I agree but izone had more members
@@_heyoo true that is also a fair point. But they also had more members that are less “skilled” in areas of singing, dancing, etc. Which is why I said Kep1er is more balanced and Izone has more “stand outs” of talented members. In reality its pretty hard to compare the two bc their concepts, number of members, and members themselves are quite different
@@abbcd that's what I thought too, Iz*One had members like Eunbi and Chaeyeon, but Kep1er doesn't have a member who standout from the others, the most all-rounded one is Young Eun (main vocal, main dancer and lead rapper material), and yet she doesn't outshine the others.
First.. why you didn’t include youngeun’s high note on u+me and her rap on kick it???? she’s such an ace!!
second, let’s wait for girls debut, we can’t compare each other without knowing their skills well
vocals: iz*one
rap: kep1er
dance: both but iz*one has chae 😬
visuals: is subjective, i prefer iz*one
lmao same. also thought both are good with dance but iz*one has the advantage named chaeyeon 😅
Kep1er punya Xiaoting yang memiliki gelar juara dunia 😌😌😌
and on kep1er there is Xiaoting who won a certain competition and Youngeun who is surprisingly versatile and the two together would be unbeatable
@@natasyaamelia4162 Visual kep1er xiaoting, chaehyun, sama siapa lagi
@@kartunanimasi7440 semuanya cantik, kak...
Vocal Izone > Kep1er
Rap Izone < Kep1er
Dance Izone = Kep1er
agree but i think izone dance line better than kep1er
@@imnayeon6_ All abilities have not been shown yet
IZ*ONE had Chaeyeon and half of the members were lead dancers so their dance line>>
chaeyeon alone would've outsold all of kep1er dance line
@@angelus_0015 yes chayeon is better than all of them but if we speak about the group overall both groups have very strong dance lines so imo equal
Vocal : for now izone cause we are yet to see kep1er through albums
Rap : kep1er
Dance : izone for now(and no one can replace chaeyeon not even isone 😛), we are yet to see kep1er as a group how great they are though i love all members dancing skills
Visual : Both (for me idol group is greater or lesser in terms of visual 😁)
3:14
ラッパーとしての実力は高くないかもしれないけど、へウォンの軽くて切れ味の良いラップ大好き💕
歌とかダンスとかラップとかそういうのはわからないけど、アイズワンがやっぱりグループとしては最強かな。アイズワンは特に手の届かない憧れの存在っていうkpopアイドルの良さがあって好き。
Just an honest opinion and this is based on their performances on Pd48 and GP999
Visual - (undoubtedly) Kim Minju
Dance - (Undoubtedly) Lee Chaeyeon
Vocals - (Undoubtedly) Jo Yuri
Rap - (Undoubtedly) Ezaki Hikaru.
Vocal : izone now. But of course we will see kep1er real vocal after they're debut. They have potential. Waiting for chaehyun and youngeun main vocal
Dance : half of kep1er's member could be main dancer. So kep1er
Rap : kep1er
Visual : depends on your type. But for me personally, I like kepler's visual more because they give me strong aura
Izone had set the standard too high; made it kinda hard for Kep1er to live up to that 😂 In terms of vocal, Izone's definitely the lead (Yuri, Chaewon, Eunbi, Yena, Chaeyeon, Nako, Yujin; they're unstoppable). In terms of dance, Kep1er sure has some very great dancers (Dayeon, Xiaoting, Yeongeun, Yujin, Hikaru, Yeseo); but none of them (as of now) can beat Chaeyeon in terms of skill and fluidity😂 (Eunbi, Chaewon, Yena, Yujin, Hitomi, even Sakura, Minju and Wonyoung are very good dancers who constantly improve every stage performance and comebacks). So I would say Kep1er and Izone are kinda at the same level when it comes to Dance as a whole group but in terms of individual, Chaeyeon definitely is the top.
In terms of rap, Kep1er 100% took the win. They have so many great main rapper material (Dayeon, Yeongeun, Hikaru) and lead rapper material (Yujin, Xiaoting, Mashiro); whereas Izone have decent rapper (Yena, Chaeyeon, Minju, Hyewon) but they're not that superior when it comes in comparison with other girl group's main rapper. In terms of visual, THEY'RE BOTH WINNERS!!!! STUNNING✨
I really look forward for Kep1er debut stage and all of their comebacks ❤️ I hope they'll grow stronger as a group and give a smack to all those haters out there who said that they'll fail as a group! I believe they'll improve each and every comeback just like Izone！
I still miss Izone so much 😭
IZ*ONEに切り替わるたび涙でてくる
グループとして魅力を感じるのはやっぱりIZ*ONEかな☺️‼️🎶
Not them saying izone only has chaeyeon as main dancer and 6/9 kelper members can be main dancers. Hello??
Chaeyeon - no one can reach her levels
Eunbi - official main dancer along with CY
Yena - auditioned as main dancer, debuted
as main rapper
Hitomi- has better techniques, can learn the
choreo very fast
Chaewon, Yujin and Wonyoung trained for only a year and already getting lead dancer positions.
add iz*one’s synchronization too!!
vocal: izone
rap: kep1er
dance: izone (they had chaeyeon which is enough for them to win)
visual: both we love all queens 👸
yeah, same thoughts!
What do you base yourself on for the vocal? According to technique and stability? Is that what defines a singer? Well, according to my criteria I prefer a singer maybe with a less* technical but with a singular voice, which is the case for kep1er, and not for izone which is rather stable but ordinary ! 🙂
@@rianlin okay i understand your vocal preference but saying izone is ordinary is really wrong. Jo Yuri is known as a main vocal with a great and unique tone, yujin has also a voice you can recognize everywhere, yena raspy but sweet, chaewon angel, eunbi powerful... respect their vocals. (and that's not what defines a singer, it defines a good singer)
Kep1er don’t have a hyewon which makes them better
@@willysalseo6452 I respect them, and I love them! Ordinary isn't an insult, and it's because they're all together that they shine so much!
iz*one was such a talented group where almost everyone were in a vocal-line and half of them are great dancers and chaeyeon is just top tier, also they have stage geniuses like yena and wonyoung. also one of the prettiest visual line minju, sakura and hyewon are no joke, especially minju. her beauty is just wow. and yena was just an amazing all rounded, imagine being a main rapper, lead vocalist with main vocalist potential and also lead dancer with main dancer potential. iz*one was such a gem in this industry, no one can beat them for me. hyewon rap in boombayah was legendary too x)
Agree. I'm missing them so much that I don't even feel like they disbanded. I still listen to their songs until now.
Vocals: Izone. They had Chaewon, Yena, Eunbi, and my girl Yuri. Kep1er has Youngeun and Chaehyun that shined, with Mashiro closely behind and Yujin as good filler and while I do love these four, non are Yuri level technique. Chaehyun and Youngeun both have huge potential though- i will say though, i personally think Kep1er's singing has better emotion in it at least in a pre-debut standpoint. Pre-debut Izone was more that they could hit high notes well...
Rap- this one HAS to go to Kepler. Izone had Yena be a decent filler rapper, but Kep1er have Hikaru, Dayeon, Youngeun and Xiaoting. Doesn't compare at all really...
Dance - Look obviously Izone's Chaeyeon is God tier. But other than that, they have solid Eunbi and everyone else is decent/could use more work. Kep1er doesn't have a Chaeyeon but they are definitely more solid at dancing overall with Xiaoting, Yeseo, Dayeon, Hikaru, and Youngeun, with the others not too far behind. They won't have a singular pop off performance like Chaeyeon, but their whole-group performances may be more fun to watch in the future.
Visuals- this is sooo subjective obviously, both the groups are so beautiful though. I dont think its fair to compare now though, as Kep1er will shine even brighter once they debut and have a more consistent make up work done and stylists.
I am really looking forward to Kep1ers debut, I am hoping they go for a hard-core concept with how solid their dance and rap line is. Izone's was more alluring and ethereal, which I also loved.
i think you miss a lot of members in izone. For dance line, izone has chaeyeon, eunbi, yena, yujin, chaewon, sakura, hitomi and eunbi. I am pretty sure both Yena and Yujin can beat Hikaru Xiaoting and Youngeun or even better than them. If you compare yeseo to minju and hitomi, they are pretty much the same.
Even before debut, you could see how synchronized each group performance while gp999 performance look a little bit messy. I don't think Yena, Yujin, Chaewon, Hitomi and Minju are weaker than kep1er members even during produce 48. Even yuri, hyewon somehow dance better than some kep1er members during produce 48.
Guys please watch sorry not sorry, side to side, touch and rumore. You will see how well izone members dance during produce 48. They are much stronger than kep1er.
In the beginning of PD48, Eunbi was thought as one of the best dancers in the show but then she was compared to Chaeyeon and no one talked about her like that again. lol I think Eunbi is comparable to kep1er's top dancers
@@TheNaruto55221 I sure that kep1er has a better dance line overall as a group remember that they are 9 and iz*one 12 so ofc they will have more dancers also kep1er are about to debut just now meanwhile iz*one has 3 years of debut so we can’t compare but in my opinion kep1er are better
@@blinkot4254 we are all comparing when they are still in the shows. For those examples i have listed are the one who choose Dance position during the concept evaluation. Everyone is comparing when they are yet to debut. Wonyoung, Yena, Yujin, Eunbi, Hitomi, Minju, Chaeyeon have all selected dance position durinh pd48. It's not about number of people man, it's about skills. Before debut, most members in izone are being recognized as good dancers. Even the ratio of good dancers in izone are larger than the ratio in kep1er. Still izone is being recognized by everyone to be one of the best dance group even before debut.
For me Kep1er has a better dance line. I mean, you can't base a whole group dance in one member(chaeyeon). Kep1er has so many strong dancers : Hikaru, Xiaoting, Youngeun, Yujin, Dayeon
Imo Yeseo is also a strong dancer and has rlly good stage presence
why do yall think chaeyeon is the only good dancer in izone ik shes good but the other girls too! yena,eunbi,chaewon
@@Nico-co8hm they are good dancers , but not main dancer material as the Girls i mentioned are
@@clubdefans4176 izone they have main dancer material besides chaeyeon, if you know eunbi is main dancer and they have 5 lead dancer (yena, yujin, hitomi, chaewon and also wonyoung) and i think yena can be main dancer if she's in another girls group, because chaeyeon and eunbi are very strong in dancing positions they are hard to get rid of especially chaeyeon
don’t forget Yeseo!!! she was noticed for her DANCE skills in Crazy at first. she’s just as good as the girls you mentioned.
Vocal: izone
Rap: kep1er
Dance: izone
Visual: izone
Shen Xiaoting and Minju are top-tier visual and both are talented rapper.
やっぱりIZ*ONEはすごかったんだなぁ
I just realize we have the 3 top 1 for each category in Kep1er.
Lmao
Wdym
@@sparkz1099 Like Hikaru, Kim dayeon and Shen Xiaoting. Like the three top 1s of their groups.
@@jurikvillaseran5886 amazing, as expected
アイズワンはメインボーカルとメインダンサーとグループのビジュアルが強すぎる。kep1erはラップと、グループ全体のダンスのレベルが高い感じ。
IZ*ONEはラップ志望が元々いないから弱いけどそれ以外は強いよね。ってかボーカルラインが多すぎる
@@user-gb5vz4ll3e ボーカルラインほんとに強いですよね笑みんな高音出せちゃうし
For me:
Vocals: Iz*one
Rap: Kep1er
Dancing: Kepl1er. Even tho Iz*one has some stronge dancers Kep1ers strong point is def dancing with most of the group having main dancer potencial
Visuals: Both.
visual izone sakura woyeong minju evry girls
agreed overall. beauty is subjective, so i don't have any comments on that but i wanted to say that all of them are pretty in their own way
@@starrbitz1229 visual not subjective in kpop.
@@teruhashipleasenocrimefav5815 kep1er visual is more diverse.
Xiaoting, Chaehyun, Yeseo, Yujin is killing it with their Korean Beauty Standart, and Hiyyih is what international fans like.
Hikaru is something different.
@@uc6758 noone in kep1er can compare minju visual
Chaeyeon be dancing like there’s no tomorrow 😭
Vocal - IZ*ONE
Rap - KEP1ER
Dance - IZ*ONE (Chaeyeon is a must but also remember Eunbi, Yena , Yujin ,Chaewon too they are one of the best in pd48)
Visual - IZ*ONE
i miss kura, wondering when she will debut again with chae won...
They need to debut soon, I feel like they’ll be in direct competition with the kep1er girls… sales wise 😭
@@tsuki4261 they debuting next year with hybe isn’t it
@@leechaeyeonfanboy1944 yeah, I heard it’s this year though… but I’m concerned since it’s nearly November lol
@@tsuki4261 maybe 25th dec.. kinda like christmas present haha
if only kotone debuted, automatic main rapper
she can be lead rapper.Hikaru is the best candidate for main rapper
Yall havent even seen Hikaru rap
@@sarahfei3665 they can be 2 Main Rapper, but i prefer Kotone. Honestly FUCK MNET dont give Kotone screentime
i don't want to say this beacuse kotone and hikaru are close in bts but in they performed rap parts together in bombayh but only hikaru's lines were iconic and got applause from many viewers and mentors
@@strrawbrryy they have different colors.Hikaru has sassy and bold vibes while kotone has refresh vibe
if bora was in vocal would be so much stronger
Yup, Bora is the vocal queen, even Yuri can't contest.
Bora is a vocal goddess, I really hoped she would be in the group
@@vinniee. same I made many accounts to vote her but planet guardians are too stupid. if it’s based off talents bora would be top9 every time
@@daisyrat4569 mhm she is an ace
true but I don't get why everyone is pissed she didn't make it in, I mean she's still an idol and I hope chebul doesn't disband
Yesterday i advanced search my twitter timeline when izone was introduced and gosh it was crazy , much crazier than kep1er. For Kep1er of we are being honest, based on the voting system, except for one, 8/9 of the girls were already expected to debut. Some we expected may not debut but this line up was more realistic than izone.
I remember people hating Hyewon at the time but realistically speaking she was expected to make it cause her rank was pretty consistent in the show just like how Bahiyyih is somehow expected in the line up with one pick system. One pick system was her ticket to the line up because she has a strong fandom, idk why people think she is rigged in. If this was actually rigged i assure you strong vocalists like Bora would make it. Yuri and Chaewon and Chaeyeon’s ranking was also surprising at the time, but this time people if you think about the one pick system and 50%korean votes the rankings were expected to change a lot, i don’t understand why people thinks it is manipulated, there might be some manipulation here and there but i doubt that.
Kep1er might not have exceptional vocals like Iz*one line but these girls are very balanced talent wise, they can all sing and dance well, and I am anticipating their debut. Hyewon and Minju gets hate a lot and Wonyo as the center too but look they are amazing and i didn’t like Hyewon making the line up at that time either, but she is my bias wrecker now, you never know until they debut. So those being ot8 right now, give it time and i am sure Bahiyyih will proof everyone of you wrong too .
P.s from my look back on timeline literally no one likes the name iz*one at the time, especially the asterick, but look where we are now it slide off our lips smoothly 😹 so Kep1er will grow on us (i hope 😫)
i agree with what you said lol. personally kep1er just sounds... ugly to me. (and like a boy group? lol) but it's something new so we just need more time to get used to it!
iz*one is such a pretty name i can't believe people didn't like it
@@izzaghassani7187 the asterisk was big no no for people at the time, and some said it reminds them of ozone and some didn’t know how to pronounce it
@@haylynshon7514 yeah i totally get it, maybe it's because i started stanning iz*one a year after debut, so it wasn't so much of a new name for me, and i've always loved the name :)
@@izzaghassani7187 i can’t remember how i get used to it too😄
Vocal : IZ*ONE
Dance : IZ*ONE cuz chae and also yena, eunbi etc..can make some chores u know but its also subjective one
Rap : Kep1er
Visual : yeap its subjective but i prefer IZ*ONE cuz idk maybe its bcs ive known for a longer time and 3MCs, HIVE girls and Hyewon
I think It's too early to compare the two groups and i love them both
Vocals: If I were to base it as a whole group (not based on the positions), kep1er is a bit better since all of them can actually "sing", not the best but they still sound good. I'm not saying that all of Iz*one is not good singing but there are members whose singing is not their biggest strength.
Rap: Kep1er
Dance: Both groups are strong dancers, but Iz*one just wow.
Visuals: All of them are gorgeous! But Xiaoting ughhhhhhhh 🥺😍❤
Overall, both groups are really good!! I'm excited to see what Kep1er is about to bring. Rooting for them and also to Iz*one ☺
how is izone stronger in rap lmao did we watch the same vid?
@@jjerry9188 Ah okay sorry my bad ☺! I was thinking about Chaeyeon and Yena and they weren't included in the video. Sorry and have a nice day ahead!
Izone have better visuals cuz the visual minju is the 4th gen best visual along with Hiren of everglow
Thou, kep1er is more good in rap Hikaru,Dayeon,Youngeun and Yujin because she can really rap really well for Xiaoting she can rap to but she needs to improve her diction
@@kise6156 ah sorry my bad i forgot the yena is the main rapper she is good tho
Best vocalist(not saying main vocalist since kep1er doesnt have positions yet): Iz*one
Vocal line: Izone
Best dancer: Iz*one
Dance line: Kep1er
Best rapper: Kep1er
Rap line: Kep1er
Best visual (subjective, this is just my opinion): Iz*one (Wonyoung it girl!)
Overall group visual: Kep1er
Agree
The vocal line is totally Izone no kep1er only has Chaehyun, Youngeun and maybe Yujin who could have high notes already in izone yuri, eunbi yena and maybe Yujin with Chaeyeon
totally agree
@@aliciajuliana7877 yeah thats what I said.. Izone was one of the best 4th gen groups in terms of vocals
Lmao.They haven't even debuted yet. Haven't followed Izone that much but I love Fiesta. I'm just so excited for Kep1er.
where Young Eun rap Kick it ???
I never buy album of izone because i dnt like the line up 😅. But i really happy when chaewon, yuri and chaeyeon is debut so i still support them. Then this KEP1ER i would obviously buy their album in December. Im rooting for the debut single 😊. Im sad that bora shes not make it .
aww that's sad you just missed so much because all izone's album are bops even their whole discography.
That's okay.people have their own preference 😊.
I used to dislike izones lineup too but after hearing their music i couldnt help but keep buying their albums and now i have all versions of their album. Lol. And same with kepler i hate this lineup alot. So for now i dont feel like stanning or supporting kepler at all. But if i like their music then it will be a whole different story.
For dance I would mostly say Iz*one. They have Chaeyeon, Hitomi, Eunbi, Yena, Yoojin and Chaewon so they finished it already
Yasss
someone have not watched gp999 and their predebut dance clips...
@@ashe5230 Kep1er has amazing dancer too like Youngeun, Dayeon,Xiaoting , Yujin,,Yeseo (most of them do really well in contemporary dance).. but I have to say.. pd48 dance break..like how Chaeyeon n Eunbi slay it with those flexible kicks n backs..
each of them literally have all of it , can't beat the difference they're born talented
i would say like ioi say to izone because it is so painful when you see the group just debuted compare with legendary
Vocal- IZ*One
Rap- Kep1er
Dance- IZ*One
Visual- IZ*One
@Kara Mackallyster pretty sure they’re prettier than you atleast
@Kara Mackallyster agree, they only have like 2 outstanding members, than the rest are forgettable. While Kep1er have all strong/well rounded members.
@Kara Mackallyster wtf all members can sing, dance and rap
I was about to do izone and kep1er's vocal ranking video, and suddenly i saw your video. 😅💜
kep1er has not even debuted yet... They have a lot more to offer. Let's just wait before we compare them 😉
Vocal - Iz*one
Dance - Iz*one
Rap - Kep1er
Visual - Iz*one
(no hate, just my opinion)
I think for visual it’s both groups for me. Everything else I agree with you!
I think the same as you do
Visual of course izone
Same
This
It's funny to compare seniors who have been 3 years since their debut with a new group and say they are better than the senior group like its so funny it's better for you to compare it to a group that just debuted, not to a senior who has debuted for years and is very experienced in the music, and just so you know, even though yujin has debuted a long time ago but in izone there are eunbi, nako, hitomi and even sakura who have been in the music entertainment before yujin
i think kepler has a better dance line than iz*one although chaeyeon is the best dancer. still, all of kepler can DANCE dance
all izone can dance to
@Baylon Nikko just no...chaehyun and hiyyih is definitely stiff
and dont forget izone also have sakura , minju and yuri so like 10/12
@@bread3987 Sakura and Minju weren't half as good at debut as they are now, you should compare them from pd48 not in Izone
Izone Charyeon alone can slay them but if it were a team. Lets see in the future what they are capable of as team. Go!! Kep1er
izone: vocal, visual
kep1er: dance, rap
Bora + Chaehyun + Yaning/Ruiqi would been so cool
Yesss
They would be too much, we aint ready for this perfection 😭😭😭
I hope in another dream we could get that team hahahahah
Basing this on the PRE-DEBUT days of Iz*One and Kep1er since it's fairer that way
Vocal: Iz*One - for those who watched gp999, y'all know how worried we were that Kep1er wasn't gonna have a main vocal because of how many dancers were always in the top 9 and eventually debuted...Iz*One has some crazy powerhouses that eventually made it so this goes to them.
Rap: Kep1er - I think this is the most obvious one because they have Hikaru, Yongeun, Dayeon, and Xiaoting.
Dance: Kep1er - more than half of the group's main forte is dance...so even though Iz*One has some strong dancers that debuted and have always been amazing with their craft, I think Kep1er takes this one because of how many people can pass as lead/main dancer~
Visual: Iz*One - As many people said, it is subjective but I think Iz*One's visuals are more...cohesive and closer to Korean beauty standards in a way? But Kep1er has GORGEOUS visuals as well so I think we just need to see how they look together as a group once they debut.
Again, this was based on skills during the pre-debut era of Iz*One since Kep1er hasn't debuted yet (also, this is all just my own opinion) =]
Vocal: IZ*ONE
Dance: IZ*ONE
Rap: Kep1er
Visual: IZ*ONE
How can i say it? IZ*ONE have the best talented member in every aspects (except rap), like yuri eunbi for vocal chaeyeon for dance and sakura/minju/wonyoung as visual. In another way, kep1er as a group have member that more balanced like almost of the member are talented. But ofc it can change how much kep1er members will improve in the future
Agree
Izoneはきれいにまとまっているが、kep1erはどのように化けていくのか
興味深い。vocal dance rap visual すべてにまだまだ大変貌していきそうな
予感がする。
They both only have 2.5 years contract, so I'm gonna shut up and cry about it😭😭
Ezaki(Kep1er) nailed the rap and Chaeyeon (Iz*one) herself is enough to win the dance. Excited for how Kep1er will grow and perform on stage for the first time. I feels like their potential are not fully shown in the show.
my analysis :
vocal : iz*one , they have jo yuri who is arguably the best vocalist of the 4th gen, since 4th gen groups really do not have the need for a main vocal anymore, and even high note belters like eunbi. HOWEVER, the average vocal level of kep1er is higher, since even if we take the weakest vocalist (probably) bahiyyih, she is still way better than minju and hyewon were at debut, and overall they can hold their own better individually. but iz*one wins cause they have jo yuri and eunbi , and even nako and chaeyeon and chaewon.
rap : kep1er. there is no competition here... iz*one doesn't have a dedicated rapper, and even yena and hyewon are nowhere close to hikaru and dayeons level. just their demo stages are enough to show that.
dance : kep1er is slightly better than iz*one was at debut... chaeyeon and eunbi are both amazing, but dance is not the strong point of iz*one as a group, synchronisation is. in contrast, in kep1er we have xiaotings amazingly powerful dance (eg snake), dayeons whole SELF CHOREOGRAPHED ice cream, and hikarus self choreographed no excuses. youngeun is also main dancer material and she's an ace at bg dances, and yeseo is too. even the 'weakest' dancers in kep1er like chaehyun or bahiyyih and above izones average.
visual : iz*one is famous for being a visual heavy group with hyewon, minju, wonyoung, chaewon, eunbi, sakura etc. so they're definitely winning. however in Kep1er we have xiaoting, chaehyun, yeseo, mashiro, bahiyyih who are very pretty too, so it's not bad
overall :
VOCAL : izone > Kepler
DANCE : Kepler > izone
RAP : Kepler > izone
VISUAL : izone > Kepler
Jongho is the 4th generation vocalist, and if you want to ask best female 4th generation vocalist I think is ning ning or Yuri
Idk why people keep saying bahiyyih is the weakest in vocal things, imo her voice is pretty stable, she even took the same part like mashiro in fiesta, and definitely her vocal's better than hyewon's
@@fiona3275 I didn't say she's weak in vocals, she's good, but Kepler's average vocal line is good cause even the rappers like hikaru, xiaoting are good at singing
I agree with your opinion especially in the dance part though it's not only Chaeyeon and Eunbi who did great since the beginning, in pre debut, Yujin and Yena was the big talk also if they're gonna be part of the main ancer line because that is what they major in, dancing. Overall, the way you said your opinion is nice and composed, that's great
@Moa yes, bahiyyih is a stable singer, she just needs a bit more confidence, which xiaoting and hikaru have more so they shine on stage when singing... bahiyyih is my bias and I think she's great, and I'm excited to see how she'll improve
I think ranking both the group atm isn't fair cuz we don't know what's kep1er's full potential as they didn't debut yet. And if we're ranking them rn we should only use clips from the survival show
If I'm not wrong, some izone clips are after debut?
Oop sorry
but Kepler hasn’t even debuted yet!! it’s way too early to judge wtf
i think people here are undermining the visual category izone possess, even from debut till now they were known as the visual group. the haters called them 'only visual' and they were praised all around for having great visuals objectively three people are fighting for main visual position (Sakura,Hyewon &Minju) and followed by yujin, wonyoung and eunbi who are visuals if they are not in izone. you can argue all you want who is better in vocal dance or rap but visual is sealed for izone even when comaparing to other groups. and visual is not something you can improve.
periodt.
lmao exactly...i still remember they're insulted by people and got called "best visual group 4th gen but no talent"
facts!!! their visuals are top but most importantly complement each other and helped in making a signature concept / image !!
Okay, but kep1er have more exotic visuals and flavor. All of izome looks the same.
@@ooogabooga4836 the fact that your reason is exotic and flavor already means that its a subjective opinion, visuals are indeed subjective but when ranking visuals it is possible to rank them using korean standards which by that blows everyone in kepler in which only xiaoting can go head to head.
In my opinion 🖤
Vocal : iz*one
Rap :kep1er
Dance :I would say kep1er as a group but iz*one have THE Chaeyeon (i don’t know how to explain it)
Visual: both 🖤
not u forgetting izone have eunbi, yena , chaewon , yujin , hitomi , wonyoung and recently minju and sakura
@@bread3987 yess don’t get me wrong I love them all 😭😭 what I mean is chaeyeon is in another level and one of the best dancers in kpop
How about Xiaoting world medal in dancing???
Dancing would be Iz*one the dance line of Kep1ers don't have control in the body too much power not like the dance line in iz*one especially chaeyeon
@@liagorang9064 you're being biased. Ofc once kep1er train together, they will learn how to tone down their power to match the other members. Overall, kep1er has a better dance line, everyone in the group are all great dancers and 4 could be main dancers.
iz*one's members have a really pretty and elegant image while kep1er's have more of a strong and mature image!
Vocal: iz*one for now. there are no weak vocals in kep1er but they don't have a wide range also (though their technique is great)
Rap: kep1er (hikaru, youngeun, dayeon, sxt)
Dance: kep1er cuz all members are great dancers. 4 could be main dancers. (Though chaeyeon is on another level, we're talking about the overall lineup here)
Visuals: beauty is subjective but Iz*one has minju and kep1er has sxt.
Should have included youngeuns main vocal part in u+me TT
And also the rap part in kick it
Yes she is pretty good, all round trainee
For izone, they not have only one visual but they have 3 visual in grup. Minju hyewon and sakura.
Whose excited for Kep1er's debut??? I know they will showcase more talent we haven't seen yet ❤❤❤
No hate to kep1er but the visual line in izone is too strong monju,sakura,hyewon,wonyoung and yujin uuu they aree such angel
visuals in izones
I mean people say that they have weak vocals when we have two main vocalists and all the others have potential to be a lead vocal lol,they are aces.
But they have. Chaehyun is great but not for main vocal. Yongeun can’t beat anyone on Izone’s vocal line honestly, she loterally shouted during u+me and was sooooo nasal.
The rest aren’t even vocal line materials except Mashiro.
@@ggstan2439 If you don't like kep1er just say and find out but that Chaehyun made a mistake in 2 performances because of nervousness is she is yes a main vocal material, it is Youngeun I say nothing like her and an all rounder
@@ggstan2439 And Chaehyun only has this problem that in addition to demanding too much is being too perfectionist, she ends up making mistakes when she gets nervous, but she rocks that only when she's not worried or nervous ok!!
@@ggstan2439 I wonder why so many of you despise her just because she was wrong being that it was obvious that she was nervous is that she ended up being a perfectionist and wanted everything to come out perfect!! She is human and can make mistakes she doesn't have to do everything right!! She's a human like us who also make mistakes
@@aliciajuliana7877 Chaehyun is one my bias but she ain’t main vocal material.
Vocal : IZ*ONE
Rap : KEP1ER
Dance : both (if I had to choose one I choose IZ*ONE)
Visual : both (if I had to choose one I choose IZ*ONE)
I'll be lowkey pretend that Youngeun's rap at 'kick it' & 'o.o.o' fancam mission isn't impactful 😁
I think that individually Kep1er could be better than Iz*one in dance (It's just my perception)
it’s so annoying that people keep saying that kep1er doesn’t have a main vocal as if chaehyun isn’t there 😭
You deserve many more subscribers 🙌🙌🙌🙌♥️♥️♥️
So far I can say Kep1er's vocal line is too weak... I mean Chaehyun, YoungEun, Yujin and YeSeo are good vocal lines but they don't have the ideal range to say that they're vocally strong. Also, Bahyih?, Xiaoting and Dayeon's vocals aren't really suitable for the main nor lead vocal position. Many of the gp999 final members are good rappers tho', so, Kep1er's concept might go more into hip-hop. While in dancing, no one can beat Chaeyeon 😅 she's too good... But if as a grp. I think it will be Kep1er.
チェヨンのダンスは格が違ったように感じる
우리아이즈원은 아무와도 비교할수 없을 정도로 대단하고 사랑하고 한 마디로 표현할 수 없다
존나그리움ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
Izone is done, gone. Bye bye
@@ooogabooga4836 No need to get petty like that- ofc the original commenter would know they have disbanded already. But this video is literally about them, too, so it’s a no duh that they mentioned IZ*ONE.
my opinion (overall not just one per group)
vocals : iz*one
rap : kep1er
dance : kep1er
visual : iz*one (based on korean standards)
Vocal - Joyuri
Dance - chaeyeon
Rap - Yena
Visual - Izone
To summarize:
Iz*One
-Better Overall Vocals (Eunbi, Chaeyeon and Chaewon can easily slip as main vocals in other groups)
-Decent Rap
-Better Main Dancers (Lee Chaeyeon is the best 4th gen dancer periadt)
Kep1er
-Decent Vocals
-Better Rappers (KIm Dayeon and Hikaru slaysss)
-Better Overall Dancers (Most of the members are Lead Dancer Material)
I love both groups and both of them are great
Agree I feel like Chaeyeon is better than all of them but Kep1er has overall more good dancers
how are kep1ler all are lead dancer meterial?
hiyyih , chaehyun are definitely stiff
@@bread3987 i said "most" not all, and chaehyun dances well. watch her black mamba and yes or yes performance.
bread all of your comments argued and disagreed when someone praised kep1er it's so obvious u hate them or something give them a fucking chance they haven't even debut yet you're literally everywhere
Iz*one members' skills now are beyond from produce era. All of them improve especially the aces so I don't think comparing them with Kep1er is valid. This new group needs to prove themselves first.
Note: The group chemistry is the most important thing here and Kep1er should work on that more especially Iz*one's group chemistry is far superior.
What background music u used? Like intro?
比べるまでもなくIZ*ONE
Vocal: Iz*one
Rap: Kep1er
Dance: Iz*one and Ke1er
Visual: Iz*one
On the other hand, why does shouting lowkey looks like minju when the comparison photo appeared side by side, ahhh both are my bias wreckers!!
I feel like kep1er will embodies the 4th gen group concept nowdays where no one has official position except leader
Iz one forever ❤️
IZ * ONE are super talented and I miss them so much. I do not know the other group, I imagine they are good. But I don't understand why to place them in the same video. For many WIZ * ONE it is a sensitive issue.
Vocals: iz*one
Rap: kep1er
Dance: iz*one + kep1er
Visuals: iz*one
Vocals: IZ*ONE
Rap: Kep1er
Dance: sort of equal
with dance, kepler has more well rounded members in terms of performance and dancing, they also have pretty good choreography skills and almost everyone can at least be lead dancers. But, the thing is they don't have someone like lee chaeyeon and even kwon eunbi who is on top in terms of dancing withink kpop female dancers. Synchronization will also play part but just seeing the performances in pd48 and gp999, I think izone has the upper hand in synchronization. So overall, you can't really rank the two groups in dance
We didn't see the performance of kep1er so we can't say that in case in synchronization Izone is the best just wait for their dance practice if they are synchronize well