Flat Earthers vs Scientists: Can We Trust Science? | Middle Ground
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I used to think this whole "flat earth" thing is just one of those Internet jokes where trolls are pretending that earth is flat, you would think this joke is only staying on Internet. Until I came to know that there are people out there who actually believe that earth is flat and conduct conferences for it from time to time. What's worse is these people even bring their children into these places and brainwashing their mind since childhood.
Congratulations
Can we have the name of the participants, specially the scientists!!!
"I'm Ali, I'm a theoretical physicist."
*"I'm Shelleeey and I'm a free thinkeeeerrrr"*
Pyriphlegeton free *CRITICAL* thinker
A free thinker that loves Jesus lol
I am so mad watching this video, the best part is when toilet cleaners insult scientist.
Sorry for bad english.
Isn't a theoretical scientist simply a free thinker?
@@matrixstrobe1176 Yes. And a religious fundamentalist is the exact opposite.
"I'm a critical thinker*" in other words shes *unemployed*
If only she were unemployed but an ACTUAL critical thinker! I am an unemployed archeologist and yet even if I don't consider myself Einstein smart but these people make my brain fry!
@@katerinaaqu Ancient history and astrophysics were my main topics in university, but I have not been working in either of these fields for a long time.
However, seeing people go back to the level of ignorance from before the great Greek philosophers almost makes me lose hope in humanity... :/
To haia: The status of employment does not change the truth value of anyone's statements, nor is the ability to think critically depending on it. ;)
@@MyReligionIs2DoGood Exactly and as much it honors me since I am Greek, Greeks were not the only ones who had guessed that the earth was not flat. Hinduism even like thousands of years ago knew (I believe they mentioned an egg instead of a sphere, not sure)
These people are overusing their right to be ignorant!
@@katerinaaqu hell, even Islam, which is Abrahamic, like christianity ,says the earth isnt flat!
@@ZuhebusMaximus I am sorry I am not sure what Islam cosmotheory is but I think pretty much everyone does think like that at some point of religious texts. The problem with Holly books are written down afterwards by men of their time. If one of the scribes believed that earth is flat so if one idea passes like that to some parts of a book is not necessarily accurate.
Also texts have been written down at monasteries before the printing machine so the number one organization that made propaganda for flat earth was Roman catholic church. Of course the copies chosen would be the ones mentioning flat earth or parts of it that were rescued in duetime.
It is downright wrong to use books written and copied down thousands of times in the past like a thousand of years ago as sources for actual facts. Because in the course of time many details might have been altered or omitted. From slight changes in orthography till paraphrasing entire pages. The copier at that time had the power to live his seal in time. Many people did change stuff while copying a text to "correct" them.
βThe internet has played an important role in confirming my view on this topic.β that explains a lot
"That's the problem" LMFAO!
What's that supposed to mean? The Internet speaks only truth! Everyone knows that.
everyone knows that it's illegal to lie on the internet!
@@graceoverall its not that the internet speaks the truth or lies... it does both. The problem is in what people choose to believe, and make it their own truth
ββ@@graceoverallThat's the problem, internet do both. Like algorithm on tiktok or other social media, it'll only shows what you'd like to see.
"im an astrophysicist"
"well *i* live on the beach"
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My thing is when she repeatedly insisted that her argument was not rooted in religion. It 100% was because she laid the foundation for her reasoning with the Bible at the beginning. My immediate question as soon as she pushed back saying religion wasn't her main driving factor, would be "Are you willing to consider that scripture may be wrong or that you are misinterpreting it?" Of COURSE she would say no...and you'd have your answer.
β@@melsop54 Yep! The scientists were WAY too polite!!!
Living on the beach would be more important if the bottom part of the ship is always visible
Change the title to: How to frustrate 3 scientists.
Actually torture them!
Lol
Lmao
Those poor souls had no chance.
You can't argue with mental ill ignorance.
@@WolfeRavenwood yh and they also hurt us
And everyone watching.
"I'm an astrophysicist"
"I'm dan the water man"
Had me dying
I knew this argument was going to be facts v "facts", just wanted to see how it ended
the only man i trust
*Yes* _Im Dan the water Man_
WATERBOY
is he wet tho?
β never believed it until my husband died and I was grieving and trying to cling on to his memoryβ Iβm paraphrasing obviously but that lady needed counselling not dragging into the flat Earth cult
Logic didnβt lead them to believing the earth is flat, logic wonβt change their opinion.
She never said itβs a belief.
@@GlobeishoaxIt is a belief; and flat earth is one that has no fact to support it.
@@GlobeishoaxOh Cletus, without any evidence it is still a belief.
Particularly with the lady, in addition to religion, it is quite clear that the death of her husband played a MASSIVE role in pushing her there. There is zero doubt in my mind that she went full throttle with it when he passed as a way to keep his memory alive with her. And she's as outspoken as she is about it here because, I'd wager everything I have, that to tell her she is wrong on it is to tell her her deceased husband was wrong. And that is NOT an easy thing to accept. None the less, the point stands, logic did not lead her there. Religion and grief did.
β@@melsop54Yeah.. that's why they kept stopping! I wish they kept pushing her on it... It's not doing her any favors to live in fantasy. I am sad her husband died! Of course! I hope she finds a healthy way to honor her husband without pushing absolutely insane ideas!
_'I don't think you guys are uneducated, I think you are wrongly educated.'_
How to politely offend your opponent 101
Exactly
Wtf
In terms of a proper debate , that would be proper
@@harshavardhan-xg8sz indeed. Few people would be liking this comment in a different context. For instance if this were being said to a communist only the commies would be disagreeing.
XD true tho
"i am an astrophysicist and i have studied over 6 years at university"
" i am dan the water man"
I'm a critical thinker and jump out of airplanes
He was recently promoted from Water Boy.
srs bsns Bobby Boucher took his job
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Nicholas Hale iβm dead. ππππ
βHi, Iβm an astrophysicist.β
βHi, I like turtles.βπ’
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"Do you see the other side as uneducated?".. flat earthers ran to their chairs when the actual educated scientist just stood there in disbelief.. as they should in this situation. I'm scared for the future of mankind!!
There are no real scientists on this show! Donβt you see that these are just actors acting according to a written script?
I give you a 100 percent guarantee that real scientists will never take part in low-grade shows, especially on KRplus!
β @@natalialowen5892Prove it. Prove that these scientists arenβt real, given that the likes of deGrasse Tyson and Cox have appeared on KRplus.
β@@natalialowen5892And your proof if what? Can you proove that you are not a school drop-out, pretending to be a genius?
And the scientists reply after was amazing. "It's not that I think you are uneducated. I think you are wrongly educated."
One side believes people are misunderstanding things, the other side thinks everyone who disagrees is actively evil or being purposely lied to.
@@raimundematiusaityte9929 - My bad, I somehow saw like you've had answered to me
βIβm an astrophysicistβ
βWell Iβm a critical thinkerβ
Sooo, an astrophysicist without critical thinking is better than a critical thinker alone?? Ironically enough, you should rethink this!
Critical thinker jumping from an airplane
@@aaronmcpherson6015 "I jump out of planes"
Aaron Mcpherson you might wanna try this critical thinking thing for yourself sometime.. do you believe an astrophysics degree removes the ability for critical thought?
James Eden lmao chill this person is obviously low iq so when they misinterpreted this which is like insanely hard to do, just ignore and let em live
All the scientists are like βsay sike rnβ
HAHahHaHAHAHAHAHHA
Lmao
FRANK OCEAN
frankieee ocsheeennn
They're idiots
The flat earther at the end telling the scientists to βdo their own researchβ π
In flat earth
@@GlobeishoaxOh Cletus, there is no flat earth, therefore no research possible.
β@@GlobeishoaxKiddo, it is called geodesy. I am sure you even haven't heard about it.
Research lol. Research what? The ice wall no flat earther has been to? The dome no flat earther has seen?
He should've said "do your own observations"
"Science is trying to divide from the creator"
Science isn't a religion. Science is the process of observing the happenings of a particular subject.
Yeah, literally what I thought. Also, they act like scientists are atheist. Newton is buried in the most important church in Anglicanism, how can he be atheist? Lmao
These people do not possess the critical thinking required to understand anything outside of their delusional beliefs. They simply lack the skills. I know for a fact that all of those flatbrains walked away feeling like they won the debate.
They do not learn, they memorize rhetoric told to them by conartists and liars. Notice how they convey information, then their entire language changes when they have to make conversation outside of repeating rhetoric. It shows that they don't understand the information given to them, they just repeat it so they can sound confident in their extremely weak beliefs that make up their personality.
We observe the flat, straight surface on which we live, drive, fly, and the horizon is always at eye level
@@santividal9387A lot of scientists are atheist and a lot are not
Science doesnβt create anything. Science studies the creation.
βIβd like to tear them to piecesβ
βIβm dan the water manβ
Ahahahahaha
Jajajajaja
Le monke
He haba juju meeeeè
Simp Police I respect your line of work
Flat earther: βAncient civilizations believed that the earth was flatβ
Ancient civilizations: *have human sacrifices for better harvest*
I love being in ap world
How do you know they sacrificed people? You just believe what the government teaches you
Allan Rojas literally carved in walls
@@allanrojas9226 yes, sir. I too am a sacrifice denier
@@pandagmail3505 carved in walls is proof so you dont think som1 would go and draw on the walls?
"i m a scientific flat earther"
and i m a straight circle
I am meat eating vegan!
I am a biological mother. But ofcoure i am a virgin. I want to teach the kids to stay virginπ. (Btw i am gay, a women and i love my husband and kids)β@@raimundematiusaityte9929
The best argument against a flat earth is capitalism. If the earth was flat, the edge of the world would be the #1 destination advertisement for your honey moon or next vacation
But how do you know there is edge. What if itβs a barrier
β@@GlobeishoaxSo the barrier would be a great tourist attraction.
@@GlobeishoaxOh Cletus, then you have to go beyond this barrier to the real edge. When in history humans where successfully stopped by a barrier.
@@Globeishoax At this point Komrade Kletus you are making russsian bots look really bad.
Itβs funny because they tried to use capitalism as the excuse for why NASA would even lie about this.
When you haven't achieved anything in your life:
"I'm a critical thinnnnker and I jump out of airplanes"
Well she's a critical thinker, I bet one of those times she might forget the parachute
Lmao right
@@tidalmouse3474 Flat earthers usually don't believe in gravity so... how does she jump out of planes?
Hahaha
I was laughing so hard when she said thatπ
Everybody: saying their jobs
Shelley: iM a cRiTiCaL tHiNkEr
*she's unemployed
And Iβve jumped out of the plane
Then goes on to demonstrate the exact opposite of critical thinking
I literally laughed when I heard woman's profession. Critical thinker and plane jumper?
Matt Wuhu haha
Before i reach 50 percent of the video trying my best to listen and have an open mind, i gave up. I realized I don't really have time to waste with flat earthers.
Im not gonna waste the earths rotation watching these people
βCritical thinkerβ is another way of saying: βIβm ignorant and have my own opinionβ
βHi, I have a professional career as a physicistβ
βHi, Iβm a critical thinker and Iβve jumped out of an airplaneβ
Bruhhh
Bruuhhhh
If that doesn't speak loudly
Screaming insecurity.
Another globetard.
When the scientist said βWell, thatβs the problem.β I felt that
Kimberly Wong I actually thought that the flat Eartehrs were right on this one just because the internet doesnβt force you to believe the earth is flat unlike school that pretty much force feeds it to you
@@trevorheimler7520 *I sense a traitor*
Kimberly is one letter from being wrong and the two replies are from jokesters and clowns
Lol felt that too, but idk y
@@danielberntsen3252 whatcha gettin at there with the whole jokester thing π
I love a quote i read once:
If you removed every single holy book, and every single science paper, one day they would return, the holy books would be different, and the scientific papers and books would be the same.
Because one is based on man's imagination, the other is based on facts.
Absolutely brilliant quote- thank you for sharing itπ
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You got that from Ricky Gervais interview with Stephen Colbert. But yes, this is a strong argument
I love that!
β@@TimZoet I love him too!
When she speaks I lose brain cells.
Same when dementia buyden speak
@@GlobeishoaxOh Cletus, itβs really boring work you.
β@@GlobeishoaxHarazzments again, troll?
Wow I can't imagine how frustrating this was for the scientists
If I were in their position, I'll throw the chair to flat earther. Got frustated just by watching this.
It's like explaning math to a toddler lmao, they can see far but can't get passed the truth smh
Ye, Ali even snapped once or twice
Frustrating? This show is scripted. Do unless they were told to act frustrated, there is no reason to be.
@@SkemeKOS there is so much reason to be frustrated. Could you imagine trying to tell someone grass is green and them telling you blankly that its pink
"I'm a critical thinker and I jump out of airplanes"
Weird flex but ok.
Justin Cooper dead meme but ok
Wtf are you even talking about. the two aren't related
sooo...have you noticed the earth's curves...?
Hailey Rafferty calm down flat earther
-I'm a critical thinker
-the bible says the earth is flat, so it must be
Flat earth theory is grounded in science.... the science of mental health.
I love how flat Earthers describe themselves as βcritical thinkersβ and βtruth seekersβ when it was literally that from which we discovered the real science and the shape of the earth.
They know globe is a lie
@@Globeisahoax yet they canβt prove it, and guess why, because itβs a globe π
@@user-gw8ui8ru6l they can
@@GlobeisahoaxThen prove it. Tell us what actual evidence you have that irrefutably proves the earth is flat.
Or are you just saying this because youβre a troll?
β@@sparehead8911provide 1 globe proof you wolly
The guy who said βIβd like to tear them to piecesβ is the reason we canβt have calm debates lmao
But TBH he was pretty calm, at least in comparison to Shelly or whatsherface
Lol maybe he was joking
Nah the girl was the one who started snapping
which one said that?
@Matthew Mirza It was this one lol the guy with the black vest and red shirt
βi donβt think youβre uneducated i think youβre wrongly educatedβ
that was hot
I-
I still believe the earth is phlat
@@722Moo what
@@atlproductions216 because the magnetic force is in the middle of the earth and if the earth was flat we will all be in the middle and our surroundings outside the magnetic force will be weak or will not be there at all so no gravity.
@@doievenwannaknow1239 who says gravity is in the middle
3:16 βThereβs a difference between a circle and a ballβ honestly thatβs more geometry knowledge than I expected them to have
I might have a brain aneurysm if I hear another flat earther try to tell a scientist they are uneducated.
How many jabs and boosters have you had
β@@GlobeishoaxAll people in my country got vaccination. This is why we had a very low death rate.
Lol same here!
Next episode:
βPeople who kick small children for fun vs. Parentsβ
nadia lucia ππ.
I laughed so hard
What's the difference
nadia lucia u made my day!!
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"They think we are uneducated?"
The best line so far.
LOL. I was hoping someone would comment this.
That was too good.
@@Az21- why didnt you?
" you are not uneducated you are wrongly educated" was my favourite oneππ
@@joelpyy446 Because I knew I'd find someone who beat me to it.
10:00 this is the most telling moment. this is literally the definition of the dunning Krugger effect
This has almost certainly given me brain damage. What have I just watched?
Flat earthers: Show me.
Regular scientist: *Shows them*
Flat Earthers: No.
Thank you mate this gave me a good laugh
flat earther: SHOW ME YOUR RESEARCH
Scientist:well her yo-
Flat earther: |\| β
Flat Earthers: WR0NG!
mack FN you made is unfunnyπ
JFK had a big flat earth map on his airforce one. Thats all the proof I need. Oh and theres sealevel..not seacurve...airplane..not airglobe. When its winter in America its summer in Austrailia. Sunrises in Michigan before it does in Florida. Lunar eclipse, solar eclipse.. Thousands of Oblekes around the world used as sundials to tell time before we had a clock...sundials only work on flatearth..
βnasa says the earth is flatβ
also them: βdonβt trust nasaβ
it's funny because flat earthers believe that the sun is round and all the other planets are round. how come gravity worked differently for the earth. there so uneducated its an insult to the school system.
They never said thatit was flat tho but yeah, you should true nasa
@Stephanie S wtf is that sentence
@@littlechineseladyv2517 nobody knows the shape
All they gotta do is strap a go pro on the next space x rocket that goes up, and have it broadcasted live for everyone to watch. End of debate.
Notice how she took a quote from the NIV which is not a literal translation of the Bible and was changed to fit the reforms of modern society.
βMy grand father used to tell me never believe anything you read in the news paper β from someone who believes in a book based on faith
Thank you! Itβs honestly offensive that they think an intelligent person will not see through that.
thn why belive everything you read in a book
βI donβt think you guys are uneducated, I think youβre wrongly educatedβ damn I like that, Iβm gonna start using that.
Deobihoe || Whatβs the time stamp?
Nvm I found it 11:13
Deobihoe hi
So I've copyrighted it
Hell N Degenerates what?
There is no middle ground... That's the beauty of mathematics, there's no room for interpretation
Iβm glad you bring it up. Here is some math for you. If the axial tilt is 23.4 degrees from vertical line, whatβs 90-23.4
β@@GlobeisahoaxI am sure you even don't know how to make simpliest calculations, fx 2+3*4-6/2=?
@@GlobeisahoaxBut Cletus, the axial tilt is 23,44 degrees. Itβs called βaxialβ because of earthβs axis. Why do you need a calculation?
@@Globeisahoax Sounds like you need a graphing calculator, there trailerpark bobby. They are expensive, guess you can't afford one.
My Christian in laws believe the earth is flat. They live in Hawaii on the island of Kauai. One of their arguments is you can still see Niihau (a small island to the west) from the western shores of Kauai. They say if the Earth was round you shouldnβt be able to see it. When I was visiting I went to investigate.
In reality, you can only see the upper portion of Niihau, which satisfies the round earth prediction. What they had failed to realize was that Niihau is roughly 1100β tall. If the earth was flat, you would not only be able to see Niihauβs shore, but the island would appear taller from that vantage. Not only was the shore NOT visible, but my back of the napkin estimate was that only roughly the top 40% of the island was visible based on how it appears from the west up close. This was very consistent with mainstream calculations based on the curvature of the earth.
In the end, there are people who decide what is true, and there are people who discover whatβs true.
I am sure they can see mount Everest from their window too.
Did they ever mention a local sun? It proves solar system doesnβt exist
@@GlobeishoaxThere is no local sun. Only in your head.
It's hard to win an argument against a smart person, but it's impossible to win an argument against an ignorant person
@Hell N Degenerates and you're the perfect example that could describe that quote
@@adealtas Deymmmm chill out man, that's too harshπ
Hell N Degenerates explain how seasons work under a flat theory for me. Like they said, give me some evidence of situations that would NOT occur under the globe earth theory.
@@laurenmartin6259 Perfect. How would anything work with a flat Earth. Seasons, days and the zones.
uzair Hannure well said!π―
There's a saying: "winning an argument against a smart person is hard, but winning an argument against an ignorant person is impossible"
i am now using this sentence in every argument i shall ever get into
@@iamthebread8440 hey stop that insult! It's very hurtful to compare your mom with an npc.
Npc deserve some respect
So I guess that flat earthers are ignorant
Galaxia LOL
Jaakko Ihalmo Yasssssss ππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎ
Also saying βIβm logical and biblically basedβ is one of the funniest things Iβve ever heard. Then to say youβre a flat earther after it is just the icing on the cake π
No matter where you go on this big round ball we live on, there's always going to tell you the sky isn't blue and water isn't wet. You can't change their minds.
Will they also tell how dementia buyden is still in WH
@@GlobeisahoaxRelevance?
βWhatβs your evidence then?β
βUhhhhh we see too farβ
that about sums it up
I laughed so hard when she said that
Thiago Mattos You donβt understand it because youβre not thinking. She means that science tells us that at a certain distance we canβt see boats because they are over the βCurvatureβ but sheβs saying that if she has a telescope she can still see the boat and that itβs NOT over a damn βCurvatureβ.
if you listen to her reason why she became a flat earther you can clearly see that her shift in belief was deeply linked to her loss of her husband who had that "truther" mindset, she needs to believe in that idea as it helps her feel as if she is following in her dead husbands foot steps, its an emotional link for her and that's sad. she needs therapy.
Honey Amber I can assure you I completely understand what she is trying to insinuate, it is just funny how she puts it in words, try not to take it so serious.
Globe Earther: Iβm a theoretical physicist.
Flat Earther: Iβm Dan the Water Man
Bas kr bhai rulaega kyaπ
lmao
Crazy Krish YAHAHAHAHAH
Yeah....
Amit Geismar yeah what?...
This guy says if NASA could show him the globe, etc. NASA literally has shown us images of earth from space, proving the earth is a sphere.
How do you know they are not made in a Hollywood movie studio.
β@@GlobeisahoaxBecause NASA is not the only one space agency on the earth and Russia or China never accused NASA for faking their pictures.
@@Globeisahoax "How do you know they are not made in a Hollywood movie studio."
Cuz we're not brainless russkybots.
Jubilee always got me high in my room arguing with these people
notice the difference between..
flat earther: βiβd like to tear them to piecesβ
scientists: βiβm open to having a discussionβ
Exactly
THIS
The more I study science, the more I believe in God"
Albert Einstein
"The more I study nature , the more I stand amazed at the work of the creator of Science brings nearer to GOD"
Louis Pasteur
"The half-hearted thinker will not believe in GOD, but people who think carefully with full heart will have to believe in GOD" Isaac Newton
Seek JESUS people and repent he's waiting that U open the door of your hearts to heal every single one of you βοΈππΎ
And also in Isaiah 40:22 the scriptures tell us that the earth is and was round " It is He who sits above the circle of the earth" Circle was Hebrew word that I can't spell "Ru" but it describes something spherical not flat GOD is the Alpha and Omega the almighty the most powerful and intelligent being these are just people who have misunderstood the bible
God bless you
@@YeshuaisKing7777 Dude stop spamming trough comments it just confirms how crazy you are
@@YeshuaisKing7777 " God doesn't want you to be annoying"- Me22:35
So stfu and go back to your cave
Who else clicked on this video knowing that is would piss them off?
Yup. Absolutely.
Iβm half way through and I feel like Iβve sat here for hours
Me
I don't know why I do this to myself haha
me
Never believe anything you read in the newspaper. And remember that the internet has a far lower standards.
This was such a hard episode to watch. The sheer idiocy of flat earthers is absolutely infuriating.
Whyβd you say that. They obviously know something you donβt
β@@GlobeishoaxHow they can know more, if their only source of information is Trust me bro?
β@@Globeishoax if the depiction flat earthers have you could take a boat over the oceans and fall off its that simple of an explanation pure idiocraty
@@gopelty7197 what?
Flat Earthers: *sees the spherical Earth*
βThe Earth was a paid actorβ
Yawn. Another brainwashed globetard.
@@brianboru175 yawn another edgelord incel neckbeard conspiracy theorist
issamemariheaux π€£π€£ iβm crying ππ
@@brianboru175 globetard?
Lmao. Please stop.
@@brianboru175 GLOBETARD??!! I can't believe we have come to this point where there's such thing as a globetard lmfao.
My man Ali is literally studying string theory while he is arguing against Dan the water man
Lmao this just made my dayπ
hahaha thats hilarious
Lmaooo
This comment is an underrated gem
Also the most assumptive individual, making completely biased claims against the opposing PEOPLE as opposed to their ARGUMENTS. You'd think someone of his background & studies would know better.
"you don't have to go to the moon to get MOON rocks" WHAT????
I think he means the rocks did not come from the moon, but earth instead.
I love the way smartness shows in ones bodyπ even the level of composure the physicists have when the next topic was "i believe the other side are uneducated" but the flat earthers proof immature and lack composure
Scientists: βIβm open to having a...β
Flat Earther: βIβd like to tear them to piecesβ
excuse me?? its Dan the WATER MANN
Primitive.
LMAO PLS
By the look in his eyes he really wants to tear them to pieces ... physically ...
How he felt after saying that πΆπΊ
Jubilee: *literally has to put the dictionary definition of scientific theory because the flat earther wonβt allow the SCIENTIST to explain SCIENTIFIC theory*
I know right! That made me laugh so hard as a Physicist ππ
@@faznaz7455 yo no need to flex
@@alonglong3281 Sorry, i just put it out there because it's the bread and butter for all scientists.
@@faznaz7455 O
@J Q Prove it isnt using the scientific method. Go. Refute gobs of evidence that the earth is flat using the scientific method. Prove you have 0 iq by commenting on KRplus. Let me give you a tip. Only one of these things will happen. GO
Introductions:
Scientist: βwe have credentials and careers that require a high degree of skill and educationβ
Flats: Unemployed
Such irony in Shelley defining herself as a critical thinker.
And truth seeker. She is exposing globe lies
@@GlobeishoaxOh Cletus, they and you are still searching for the truth. But why are flerfs always lying?
βYou donβt have to go to the moon to get moon rocksβ -Dan.
This is it. This is my senior quote.
My god please do it ππ
oh my god im crying of laughter
wait where can you get moon rocks
bread genie the moon π
he talking about mt. moon with a straight face, what a man
the most difficult βtry not to laughβ challenge
flat earthers.. lol can we measure the stupidity of people?
I lost because I laughed when the lady said she jumped out of an airplane. I also haven't stopped laughing at everything the flat earthers have said
or 'try not to break your monitor challenge'
RIGHT
Or cry in utter despair at how we are failing as a species π
flat earthers:
possible?
ANytHiNg iS pOsSiBLe!
Me: Just like the earth being a globe.
She, thinks she has critical thinking and that she's not starting with conlusions and then find evidences to support that conlusion. But when she says she started questioning if the earth is flat because of the moon landing theory, she then inferred that the earth might also be flat, and then began looking for evidences to support that conlusion. That's starting with a conclusion.
yall shouldβve added in like one astronaut who has been to space into this
Eva Cheever impossible π΄
Would have been perfect. Let's just hope that someone does this
They would say heβs been paid or threatened to lie.
@@JP-vr7od Exactly
@Pros Vincent You seriously think we went 239 thousand miles to the moon and back? A total of 478,000 miles. Lol...
Imagine studying space your entire life only to be called "uneducated"
Wait, but the flat-earthers they watched a 6 minute youtube video so-
@@jasonwillows5239 lololol
But they watched those 6 minute KRplus videos! Those can't be wrong but Nasa is!
@Sakusha Durante dude, there are multiple studies done on the subject. Countless amounts of evidence is out there, you just have to look. But I guess looking for concrete evidence is not something flat earthers are good at. They rather watch a 6 minute video off KRplus and call it a day.
Sakusha Durante aight bro go seek some help
i dont know how those scientists sat there with a straight face i would have been laughing all the way
Like a clown?
β@@GlobehoaxYes, flerfs are just like clowns.
Dan saying they are exploring with physical properties, actual measurements, and not looking towards written theories is pretty ironic after quoting the Bible
Flat earthers: β Do your own research β
THEIR JOB IS TO RESEARCH
Roxas In Japan yes you are
Gray Cat scientists are not unbiased, I hope you know. History should show you that... all the βevidenceβ science have found based on sponsored research.
Just One Time You must think you're so smart
Not to research it IS research
@@justonetime6179 and I hope you understand the role that peer review plays in disproving false data. There are bad scientists, and good scientists always prove them wrong in the end. Always.
The Earth's a sphere, get over it
"I'm a physicist"
"I jump out of airplanes"
she literally should see the curve of the earth if she jumps out of airplanes lmao
@@aviationknowledge8596 i was thinking the same thing lol
@@aviationknowledge8596 nah you'd have to be a lot higher
I can't jump from planes. LoL I'm scared of hights.
If you fly a long flight and the plane goes high enough, you would see the curve
Whatβs even more scarier is these people can vote
What about people who can hack voting machine and change numbers in the middle of the night
@@GlobeishoaxOh Cletus, that are only alternative facts from your criminal wannabe president.
@@Globeishoax "What about people who can hack voting machine and change numbers in the middle of the night"
Ask your Roosky bosses Komrade!!!
Why are Scientists even feeding the subject? I mean how is this even a thing?? You can see the globe shape from a plane even!
Can you also see the bottom of the globe?
β@@GlobeisahoaxBalls have no bottoms, kiddo! How you can see something that doesn't exist???
Iβm losing brain cells just from the thumb nail
Yeah.. the pray vs. the point.... And it's who's channel? Great thumbnail. Great lead in... So everyone can comment all fun stuff. Lmao
Me too. And I'm lovin it.
Kevin Cutter 1kπ
She looks exactly like I would expect a flat earther to look π
You may want to wait on that comment. We ALL believed it once. What have you got to lose? Either you have more proof of a spinning ball or more questions. We ALL believed it once.
βI view the other side as uneducatedβ
scientists: βThey think weβre uneducated??β
@@KangenAlec FEβers canβt explain how seasons work and your brains fuse when given the working explanation.
welp, we really did waste our good moneyππ
say the people who use KRplus as a source!
If old boocks say the earth is flat i mean hoe the faq do they know they
The uneducated scientist is an oxymoron.
Two observations:
1. If people undertood the difference between 'evidence' and 'proof' there would be no flat Earthers. At all. None (apart from trolls).
2. If people knew what logical fallacies were (I heard one particularly glaring misuse of 'begging the question' at the end) there would be no flat Earthers. At all. None. Apart from trolls.
One observation : a local sun. That means solar system doesnβt exist
@@GlobehoaxLocal sun doesnβt exist.
The scientists are actually being pretty gentle here, these flat earthers are lucky they're not being ridiculed more directly.
Gentle liars and scammers
@@Globeisahoax Explain your flat earth model, explain how we have weathers and how we have eclipses, Also explain how your model is never accurate to a country size compared to a round earth which makes sense, also how about how the moon is literally upsidedown in south america but upside up in north america. Many questions and I want answers.
@@noahniskalaYouβll NEVER get answers from flattards β¦ their model make ZERO sense! On April 8th, theyβre going to be REALLY uncomfortable!!! π
@@noahniskalasun and moon rotate above the equator and people observe them from opposite sides.
@@noahniskalastick number 6 on a ceiling. The other person will see 9
Dan is the most stereotypical looking conspiracy theorist ever.
he looks musty
@@noor-qk5kz I bet 100,000 he is.
I know, what a bad ass
@@minseos thanks for weighing in, Einstein
Wendell too
2019: Earth is flat.
2119: *Earth is a pyramid.*
2219:The Earth doesn't exist
@simplicity
2419:The Earth is a now a cylinder
It is though...
2519 the earth is the Illuminati
With this growing trend of ignorance being all the rage, I wouldn't even be that surprised if that were the case!
There is no middle ground with science. Science is cold severe brutal and honest. There is no concessions and thatβs why we progress
I agree. Just keep in mind, globe is not a science, itβs a scam.
The criminals use pseudoscience to fool people
β@@GlobeisahoaxWhat about thousands of scientific research papers in physics, astrophysics, geodesy etc? Explain this, genius!
@@GlobeisahoaxOh Cletus, itβs not the fault of science that you donβt understand scientific topics.
Theres literally a part of nasa where you can see a satellite camera pointing towards earth as the satellite orbits.
Round earthers: Iβm a theoretical physicist with the university of Irvine
Flat earthers: Iβm a critical thinker and I jump out of planes
LMFAO
Underrated comment π
What does she imply by saying I jump out of planes-? Is it a sarcasm?
@@lalruata2011 I think she means skydiving π
@@lalruata2011 Who knows, Half the stuff coming out of their mouths doesnβt make any sort of senseπ
The fact that Shelly thinks sheβs actually intellectual.
Hey isaac Iβm sorry these idiots donβt believe in your *proven* thing of gravity
typical Karen
@@kogoromori30 lol
It makes me think Earth is actualy rectangle lol
*Karen
Scientist - "i am a highly educated and qualified person in studying all aspects of the world."
Flat earther - "i'm smart"
Shelley completely sums it up @12:50 - "I went into this completely wanting it to be true". Sorry but that's not how truth works!
I feel like the scientists were in pain throughout the whole thing
i was in pain
GAPAG I lost so many brain cells I feel empty
GAPAG Me too... I can barely get through this video
Me too
They were like parents putting up with their kids' tantrums.
The difference in how they introduce themselves βcritical thinkerβ and βtruth seekerβ vs their high level occupations
Also shows how the think of themselves. The flatearther water man went into this wanting to "crush the other side". He already has an inflated sense of self he wanted to prove that sense of superiority to others.
@@andremartinez418 There is no other side of truth.
The conflict seems a set up one.
ahahaha facts!!!!
I donβt see a problem in labeling yourself based on your passions as opposed to your occupation. The scientists happen to have a career and passion that are one in the same. I cut grass for a living but I would call myself a musician before I called myself a lawn guy.
Brian Roberts it shows that one side is qualified and the other isnt
I love how these three flat earthers basically show on a smaller scale how social media is a breeding ground for flat earth idiots by just throwing nonsense at each other to reassure a belief that they have no proof for.
They also know for a fact nasa is faking everything
β@@GlobehoaxA "fact" you and your fellow idiots continually fail to prove...
"It's faulty logic"
She has absolutely no clue how ignorant she sounds π€―
Flat earthers: βthe Bible is meant to be taken literallyβ
2 mins later...
βEveRytHing iS mEanT tO bE tAkEn WitH a GrAin oF SalTβ
I hate it when people change points of their argument midway through
@@fernandosuarez8385 people who do that know that they are wrong and are trying to grasp onto any point they can
He was saying when it comes to KRplus videos everything is to be taken with a grain of salt , he wasn't still talking about the Bible. I'm not a flat earther and I don't believe the Bible is literal truth I'm just saying I think you heard them wrong
Bible is most definitely not meant to be taken literally, in most cases.
Lol, the Bible; I hate fiction!
Everyone: "I'm a scientist with multiple degrees and am working in famous companies-"
Dan: **DaN thE wATeR mAn**
Who would win: a smart man with multible doctorets or a watery boy
Find out next time on Water Boy Z
Shelley: I jump out of airplanes
@@aleksanderorg9405 it's water boi
i am sorry, Gilang Wijanarko
Why do the flat earthers only say that NASA is lying to us and not mention any of the other of the world's space agencies?
Because itβs not a space agency to begin with. Itβs a green screen movie production
@@GlobeishoaxStill canβt prove it though, can you?
@@GlobeishoaxOh Cletus, there are more nations and more space agencies in the world.
Why didnβt they ask how thousands of mariners have circumnavigated by boat and ended up where they started. Also, why hasnβt one of the flat earthers travelled to βthe edgeβ of the earth to take a photo for evidence?
Open Gleason flat earth map and see where the edge is
@@GlobeisahoaxxOh Cletus, again you did not read the question before posting your nonsense.