Iconic Corpse: The Romanov Family

"(Cheerfully) Stalin did do things like that. It's one of the problems with Stalin." Caitlin is Iconic

I didn't know I needed it....but I do.

Lou a

Klister Klister 😂

Genetics proves that people are different, communism says everyone is the same. Stalin searched for an alternative and settled on the theories Trofim Lysenko. That decision led to 50 years of Russian crop failures and mass starvation.
www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/12/trofim-lysenko-soviet-union-russia/548786/

Your comment doesn't quite make sense, but it's still funny. 😄👍👍

Ms Starlight Why?

@@jedithekitten8891 because the rifles were too loud to be used inside in the small basement room because people could have hearing loss & disorientation, etc, from that. The grenades were used outside & thrown down a pit. I understand the commenter was trying to make a joke, but it doesn't work.

Rat Lord ok

@@msstarlight4770 The grenades weren't used until they were deep in the forest. So it has no relevance to what happened in the Ipatiev house.
It was a firing squad that killed most but bullets began bouncing off the Grand Duchesses Marie and Anastasia. This was due to the jewels they had sewed into their corsets, causing bullets to bounce off. The shooters did not know this and some were very superstitious, wondering if God was saving the young women. They switched to bayonets. How horrible their final minutes must have been!

I’m writing a paper on the Romanovs and their execution, until now I didn’t really know who else was executed along with the family, just that “some servants” were. I’ll be sure to include them in my paper!

I know one of the Romanov descendants was upset that the servants were not buried with the family...stating their loyalty to the family to the horrific end was unmatched. Many Romanov blood relatives had abandoned them, denounced them while the servants stayed, begging the question "Who IS family, after all?" But, that concept apparently wasn't good enough for the Russian Orthodox Church, either.

More IMO. They were just servants, they had no power in anything at all.

It was also the chef

​@@coldwar45
It is a bit more complex than you might think.
At least the doctor was formally offered a chance to leave. By Yurovsky´s own reports.
If you want to take everything else from Yurovsky as true, and it looks like mostly it is, then the doctor was very much aware they were about to die.
In fact, it does seem the family had more of a feeling they were about to die too. There is the report of how they all kneeled and did not sing in their very last religious service. The priest for that service reported this and reported he felt them all like already somewhat away.
Back to the servants, there was a kitchen boy who was removed from the house a bit before the execution. Which also points out that maybe they did offer the other staff to leave too. Tough, Yurovsky seems to only have reported about the doctor.
Additionally, the family had more staff which did not travel with them to their final stay. Some of that staff remained alive and even wrote memoirs which are part of the current day knowledge we have on the family.
In this very video you had Pierre Gilliard mentioned has visiting the wanabe Anastasia years after. This Pierre was none other than the kids former french teacher. He had been with the family up till their imprisonment at Tobolsk. Lucky him, he did not go with them in their last journey to the Ipatiev house.
Here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Gilliard

*fake Anastasias
You don't add an apostrophe, because that would make it singular possessive or a contraction, not plural.

i mean a timeline where kids weren’t shot would be nice. maybe one where Russia got its act together before nicholas even took the throne?
but yeah. florida man > FBI? maybe. that’s the scary part.

@@lildramatic4760 Being facetious on the "best" part. More like craziest but whatever floats your boat

Florida man is a well known forensics anthropologist- I have read his book on all the cases he worked on, and he very much knew what he was doing(The book is "Dead men do tell tales", its a very good read ^_^)

Largely because they were trying to build communism and America is not the biggest fan of that and has a teensy tendency to screw with those sorts of plans.

@@felixhenson9926 yeah XD plus this was when we were getting out of the cold war, I do beleive...so.. theres also that XD

I couldnt help but laugh at this. 😂

Graybe not that Stalin anything WRONG mind you. Just sayin

Graybe It’s so wonderfully Russian.

say it on tinder- bam gang bang

Probably has happened before

And all those sightings turned out to be false

When you read what actually happened, it's impossible to believe anyone could have survived, much less escaped.

if you knew anything at all about Anastasia and her siblings, you would know she wouldn't have wanted to live after losing her family.

No one who actually studied what happened thought that she was alive.

It's all tragic.

Did your inner goddess stamp her foot in indignation?

For a few years now, I was planning to name my future daughter after Anastasia since I have a bond with the Century Fox movie

@@NoNo-pg5rq most people don't know about the Romanovs and just see it as a really pretty name

Stellar Starrs I think I discovered the name Anastasia after the movie. But yeah it’s still a really pretty name

Grandmama,, its me

laundromat understatement of the century!

I literally laughed out loud at that

Stalin's political philosophy was that there was no problem that could not be solved through the application of high velocity lead poisoning, aka; a bullet in the head!
Also the Ural Mountains run in a north/south line and are considered the geographic boundary between Europe and Asia, so west of the Ural's is Europe/east Asia. Some 42 years later Yekaterinburg (later Sverdlovsk) pops up in history again when the U-2 was shot down on May 1st 1960.

It's kinda funny, if Stalin didn't kill all the doctors in Russia he probably would have survived his stroke.

@@laundromat003 the irony around his death was so thick it probably was the clot that caused the stroke.

I'm sure the anti semite family who planned pogroms did not diserve to be shot

That wall did not look like that immediately post execution. It was torn apart because Lenin wanted to know exactly how many bullets were fired etc.

According to Dr. Maple's book, Alexandra's dental work was actually PLATINUM! The servants could afford merely gold.

Nice suggestion I must say! I hope she does look into it for us. That topic sounds interesting

Great suggestion! It was pianist Andre Tchaikowsky.

@@Llixgrijb Thank you

Cool suggestion!

omg i've never heard of this! that's a dedicated stan if i've ever seen one 😂

That would be nice.

That would be the honorable thing to do. Then they'll finally be together again & perhaps at peace. After more than 100 years, they deserve that much.

@Right Hand I learned about the fate of the Romanov family when I was 10 years old because I was very determined to try to figure out why the world is so fucked up and decided I had to look at major shifts of power throughout history. I remember I was so incredibly horrified to know what was done to those children out of anger at their parents. The fact that people are so willing to kill people they believe have wronged them is already insane, but to kill innocent children too? To believe a child can be worthy of death because of a "tainted bloodline"? The murder of Marie Antoinette's children was just as insane. Revolutions start with good reasons and good intentions, but always lead to the most cruel acts of violence in the name of progress.

@Right Hand I'm an atheist, but I can definitely relate to the desire for justice against cruel people.

@@LammasDeluge And they killed the servants too. Weren't they supposed to act in service of the working class?

The romanov are dead and rotten under ground FUCKING LMAO

The romanovs are dead and rotten underground

Paloma Rufete yea but their legacy isn’t

@@besos4169 So is the Soviet Union.

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Welcome to THE REAL WORLD. Life is not a Martha Stewart episode...never has been, never will be.

@@YouDontKnowAsMuchAsYouThinkUDo Doesn't mean we've gotta keep it that way tho.

@@YouDontKnowAsMuchAsYouThinkUDo username checks out.

@@YouDontKnowAsMuchAsYouThinkUDop

Now repeat that same scene for decades and for countless millions of people and you can appreciate the true scale of the atrocities the Soviets inflicted upon Russia.

The truth is vastly different from the movies isn't it?

Oh hey, me too! Fascinated to this day. It just resonates with me, ya know? It's amazing, actually, how as I learn and grow and the world around me changes, my feelings on the subject have also metamorphosed. I have a lot less sympathy for Nicholas II and Alexandra than I used to. Nicholas was a shitty dude in quite a few respects - it goes beyond mere incompetence. He actively hated Jewish people and was privately pleased with the brutal pogroms that took place against them in Russia. He also held a grudge against Japan, viewing the Japanese people as small, effeminate, and weak. He spread those bigoted views to his kids, who cheerfully parroted his bullshit during the Russo-Japanese War, saying stuff like they hoped all the Japanese people died and that they were strange "little people" who did bad things, sinking the Russian peoples' ships and killing their sailors.
I don't blame the kids for that - they were being fed propaganda during a time of war, and they were very young at the the time, and very sheltered. Plus, when their governess Margareta Eager explained to one of the daughters, Olga, that the Japanese people weren't all bad, and specifically the women and children didn't deserve death (which is still not a great viewpoint, but it's a step up from 'i hope all the Japanese die') Olga actually listened, took it to heart, and admitted she didn't realize the Japanese were also people - she thought they were more like monkeys or something.
So... yeah. I could go on and on about the bullshit of Nicholas and Alexandra. I still feel bad for them though, and acknowledge that they were human. They had redeeming qualities, but we definitely shouldn't gloss over the bad shit.

@@WhistleAndSnap Yeah that kind of speaks for itself. Nicholas and Alexandra were so incompetent and ignorant about the people that they supposedly served it's insane, but their story is so interesting because so many factors came together to create the perfect storm that ended up destroying their lives. It's been romanticized a lot but the actual raw history of it is still very fascinating.

That always gets to me when people talk about executing someone. What happens to you, mentally and spiritually, when your job is to kill people?

I can't blame them. If I had to kill those children or be killed myself knowing they would die anyway I would have had to have been drunk first and probably would have been a drunk for life dealing with it.

@@jimwilliams4532 Honestly, I would have just shot myself at that point. I would rather die than live the rest of my life as an alcoholic, trying to drink away the memories of murdering children.

@@LammasDeluge One of Stalin's executioners lost it for a little bit during the worst of the purges, and during the Katyn massacre, where they killed thousands in just a few days, they had to drink very hard. I would wager a guess that it takes a severe mental toll on most people.

@@jimwilliams4532 Actually, I've decided that if I was in that situation, I would shoot at my commander. At least try to take out the evil fuck if I'm going to kill myself anyway.

I guess, but even if they escaped the house, where would they go? Everyone for a hundred miles around hated them. They wouldn't have been able to make it anywhere safe before being captured or killed.

@@greywolf7577 and who knows, even if anastasia escaped she could have had an even worse death by the hands of people who hated the czars. (raped and then killed)

I couldn't have that hanging over my head like a dark cloud.......

@@greywolf7577 they were most definitely not hated by "most people" around... their biggest critics were in St Petersburg, due to propaganda by the terrorist organization, aka the Bolsheviks.

@@robinlrice The Tsar himself said he would go anywhere but Yekaterinburg.

They were. They were also canonized and interred in Church of the Resurrection in the Kremlin (I was there in 1993 and saw their coffins) . Anastasia had just been added to that about 2 months before I got there if I remember right. It was very beautiful.

@Jason Voorheese How were they criminals? They wrote the laws, just like the capitalists do now.

@Otto Sump Do the lives of common russians dead because of the autocracy even rate to you? The children were both products & victims of their birth - they did NOT deserve to die. But neither did striking workers or soldiers conscripted to fight against workers in other countries.
The Tsar had the most capacity to look deeper into what was going on & he chose not to. He was THE most powerful man in the country prior to the revolution - yet STILL you absolve him of responsibility. This continuing worship of royalty demonstrates the need to extinguish it. Wars of restoration have to be prevented as far more lives of people with far less responsibility would die.
The royal family were a liability to peace.

@Jason Voorheese The uploader covered that. The bolsheviks were in charge of the territory they controlled militarily. A Civil War is a state of emergency. The Royals continued existence if freed could be a cause of restoration war. Their lives were insigificant in comparison to the lives their continuing existence would put in peril. They had to die. Deal with it.
If the children were too young to understand & remember, they could have been adopted out & spared.

@Jason Voorheese "....a group of jews...."
Oh - you're one of THOSE people. The person that brought about that dark era of history was Stalin, and he was one of you - he didn't like jews either.

Katherine - that sounds incredibly sad. How old were you when you found out?

@@seaturtlepoppy7679 I was about 10, I was doing a report on her and I found a book that had all the gory details.

Katherine - I can see how that would have left an impact on you.

I also thought that to as a kid

Katherine you should see the sadness in the fandom of the History anime of Hetalia. The Russia character is so loved and we all cry when the movie is mentioned.

Luckily, Stalin got what he deserved. Because of the Doctor’s Plot executions and the fear his underlings had toward him, he died of a stroke with nobody there to help him.
He literally got a taste (or more accurately the lack of a taste) of his own medicine.

They were stallin'

@@ifacro I feel bad for gigglesnorting so loudly at that 🤣🤣

@@kugelblitzkrieg That what Stalin gets lol. Lenin did say to never let Stalin get anywhere near in power before he died.

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That is funny

I see that incognito Spongebob reference, and I salute you

Theodore Macewko sir... this is a Wendy’s.

Tereigh Keating-Hart....sir you’re talking to an empty cup

@Theodore Macewko Say sike, right now.

Communism sucks!

All the more reason for those of us in the west, who have come to value our democratic equality/values, to resist our own growing radicalism and extremes on both sides.

@@thedriszen8350 take your both sides bulls**t elsewhere

which unfortunately is basically their number one cause of death in men in particular.

@@thedriszen8350 all the more resean for us to practice tolerance

I doubt the Royal family was bothered abou public opinion back then. They had the power to bring their Russian relatives to the UK but a higher power blocked them.

​@@moesypittounikosWhat higher power?

@@frances-if5fp The Prime Minister and Parliament forbade the king to bring the Romanovs to England .And in England, the Prime Minister and Parliament have all of the power. The king or queen are only ceremonial. It's been that way since 1688, when the Parliament deposed KIng James and appointed William and Mary to rule.

@@SymphonyBrahms Thank you 👍🏽

Yep. While watching I thought "this is one of the most clumsy 'executions' i have ever seen! Wtf!?"

@@munadorgham5287 So you've seen clumsy executions before? Tell me more!

@@unhappybacon3292 I plead the fifth

@@munadorgham5287 Hmmmmmm

is there a difference?

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Woah youre smart.
Im a stripper lol.

Lit BoPeep *Strippers can be smart too 🖤💯*

@@BarbieBando yeah i know. This ones not though😞
I legit cant even read a map. I forget my right from my left. I cant read an old fashioned clock with the lines. I count on my fingers alot. I cant whistle. Dont know how to ride a bike. Never pumped gas in my life. And i barely learned the difference between youre and your because someone on youtube made fun of me for it in a really mean way so i figured id better remember.
"You're" goes where "you are" would fit and anywhere else you can put "your"☺
But the fact im proud of that just proves my point....now that i think about it.
So yeah. Strippers can be smart but alot i know me included arent and even if we were no one would believe it.
I try and read the biggest books I can find, i Really do, but all i learn from them is that i know less than i thought and so i actually think theyre making me even more dumb, theyre just making me realize _how_ dumb i am.
sorry for the rant. I'm sure u were just trying to be nice lol

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Such an original comment

@@flipgunderson1946 yours too ;)

@@THENAFERATU see what I did there? You get it!

@@flipgunderson1946

Truly. Twenty minutes? Jesus.

I no, the terror they must've felt is disturbing to think about.

quærēns I mean sure, yea, in order for a revolution to occur it helps to fully dispose of the previous rulers. But uh....it’s not like the starvation and stuff exactly went away after the regime change 😬

@@Ravierave this is a bit condescending, don't you think? It is easy to judge from the position of your modern, sheltered first world man, for sure. Now think about the horrible, oppressive regime that persisted for generations, with total technological and political stagnation. Heck, even with the military stigma of the Paper Tiger. Royal family had to go. It wasn't the first monarchy that was executed with utmost prejudice and bolsheviks weren't the ones who came up with the idea to shoot the Family either. And, yes, USSR was totally an improvement compared to the previous regime. For a western man, who had years of political and social development behind his back, it was still a totalitarian despotism, no question in that. But for Russians it was certainly the move forward.

@@Sirzhukov Still doesn't mean that the Romenov's deserved every single bullet put into them.

Yeah, it would´ve been more human just to tell them to look at the wall and shoot them in the head. That bloodbath seemed more like a revenge than anything else.

@@vilwarin5635 Hearing it described just broke my heart for the family.

...history....it can be ugly. But, by now, some have learned better n some have not. One of those damn things in the world. You know??? Take care.🤗🤔🧐✌

Fuck communists

@@PayNoAttentiontoCaes fuck you

That's an excellent idea! While I know about Jonestown, your comment made me realize I don't have a clue as to what happened after! I could tell you about Jim Jones' childhood, his former jobs, how the cult began, rose, and ended....yet I couldn't tell you what happened to the deceased. Caitlin, I hope you'll consider xlanbc's idea because it's an awesome one!

I know that only maybe six were actually identified with maybe a couple of autopsies. Everyone else was loaded one on top of the other and carried away. There is a memorial in Oakland, CA but I highly doubt any remains are there. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were buried in a mass grave and/or cremated. “Raven” is a really good book (forgot author and too lazy to look up) and “The Road to Jonestown” by Jeff Guin is on my TBR list. And there are numerous documentaries - I think Netflix or Prime has one that uses a lot of re-enactments so it’s more like watching a regular show (or was that the History Channel ...?). This is my very long winded way of saying “Maybe these will have an answer.”

@@seaturtlepoppy7679 thanks I'll check.those out. I've actually read quite a bit about it, I'd just love to see Caitlin's take.

@Shirley Bailey - The Johnstown flood was indeed horrid. However, the Jonestown mass murder/suicide was a different event altogether, also horrid.

She actually covered it in her podcast "Death in the Morning." It was episode "Don't Drink the Koolaid." :)

Remy N. They had the opportunity to leave months earlier but the mother wouldn’t leave because some of the children had been ill (I forget if it was tb or what, plus the boy was a hemophiliac). Ended up being a deadly decision. By the time they were ready to leave, their cousins in England, George VI and family, were afraid to help them.

@@jennifermcgoldrick6323 This story just hurts my heart, they should have at least spared the children.

Remy N. Yes, but when it comes to royals they never do. Look what’s happening in Saudi Arabia right now. No one should ever want to be a royal, not that the children had any choice in the matter.

@@remyn.9198 sadly it wasn't an real option. Keeping the children alive would give them the possibility to claim the right to the throne one day and since the royal family still had support and relatives in other countries, the new government couldn't risk to keep any flame of hope alive.
Revolutions in Europe were damn cruel. The French one was even bloodier than the russian

welcome to communism

Yet I can see from photos of him that I would not trust him for a moment.

To comfort you, and humanize Yurovsky, the Romanov family (except from the kids) weren’t innocents. The horrible things they made the people go through was enough to fill them with rage to the point of celebrating something like this. Think of the French Revolution.

@@ashsummermakaio4756 the children had done no such things. Why you want to make Yurovsky seem more 'human' is beyond me, care to explain?

@@peacenow42 I'm not justifying what was done to the kids, read it again. I'm just explaining how someone can be so cold blooded to the point of doing something like this. And I want to humanize him because he was a human.

@@ashsummermakaio4756 I think you had no intention of justifying what happened to the kids by humanizing their murderer. But you did. That's my opinion only. With all due respect.
He was a monster. The Czar had resigned. Yurovsky tried to gain their trust. He tricked them. He allowed them no time to even say their goodbyes. This is NOT how humans should behave nor should we ''humanize'' them posthumously without risking another human thinking it is ok to behave like this monster did. Words are powerful and have consequences. I do not mean to offend you but as I look around me right now I see people behaving just as monstrously. If you had said you wanted to humanize him to prevent such tragedies, this I could understand.

I remember reading that they did that to kill them. The daughters were both stabbed with bayonets and bludgeoned to death because all that jewelry was stopping the bullets.
It took them 20 minutes to finally kill them. They were children. Horrifying.

What the bolsheviks did by silencing other leftist and Anarchist parties was fucked, but no sympathy for a monarch. I wouldn’t have executed them. But as an Anarchist I don’t feel sorry for an oligarch losing their power.

They also chopped the two bodies buried together up with axes.

@@squiddiewalsh2324 I feel like they should've just been ran out of the country.

@@squiddiewalsh2324 as an anarchist, you should be against punitive justice as a whole. They had no power, they were literally in prison. Murdering them had nothing to do with removing them from power.

Elina Khaneeva HEY! I know you!!! haha ❤️❤️❤️

My best friend Maria Zatsova was adopted from there! X

That would be so cool. Russia and England are on my bucket list

@@elizabethsisco4946 Add Ireland! My fave place ever. Going back in not too long! Gorgeous, friendly, full of history.

Elina, I actually know someone from there too, but I thought it was pronounced like Yehk-a-terin-burgh. No?

@Audra Byrd I stumbled onto Caitlin's channel more than 2 years ago and feel as you do about her and the channel content. Isn't she great? 😁

​@@loisreese2692 .. I think she's very compassionate and her humor although a little dark,, isn't disrespectful..

You and your barf will get there... one day

I got food poisoning twice and one of them I was so delirious that I just kind of came up with that awesome plot for a story I kind of might have hallucinated during that power barfing haze and exhaustion.

Mine led me into a deep investigation of Johnny Gosch

...zat like power pooping???🤗💩🎃😂🕊👻💩

Have you tried going to India? It's like a power-barfing pilgrimage spot!

Stalin would stay up late at night making lists of people to have killed If Hitler was not around Stalin would be the number 1 mass murder of the 20th century

Pretty sure the "number one" is Mao.

@@dinofelis9343 Yes, the Chinese Communists killed more people than anyone else in history, other than Islam, which killed easily 300 million over the past 1,400 years, whereas the CHICOMS killed well over 100 million Chinese.

@@kurtnulf3362 Stalin killed much more than Hitler, it's just how Hitler is better known, that's why they see him as the greatest genocide of the 20th century when that should be Mao Zedong.

@@dinofelis9343 -- Stalin is partly responsible for those who died of starvation under Mao. Stalin lent Mao his favorite scientist, Trofim Lysenko, who came up with a three-point plan to increase crops in China. Lysenko was a Dunning-Kruger failure of a scientist who was only good at kissing up, so his three-point plan caused massive crop failures and famine.

From all the people in this story, the father is the only one who doesn't deserve any of your pitty

@@pedrocavalcantesantana7378 The father was a really incompetent leader, but he was not a bad person.

@@oscarc.3597 tell that to the people who were shot in the street due to him

@@pedrocavalcantesantana7378 He didn't give the order.

@@oscarc.3597 it happened ynder his order, due to his incompetence

And his face is similar to Nocholas II and George V

They used the DNA of Prince Philip. His mother was a Romanov.

Me too, I wish they could just rest in peace and be buried properly even if not in the cathedral :'( it's so sad what happened to the children, it is never the childrens fault for the actions of their parents, they could have grown up and done great things but well never know now, what a horribly way to die it wasn't even quick 😫

I'm a member of the Russian Orthodox Church in America, formally ROCOR and I think it's awful the family is not buried together. I watched the burial of the family and retainers years ago. How much more proof do they want? !

@@dawndonivan3089 'Needing more proof' is just a cover when in reality it's purely political. Burying the final family members would be a front page news story across the globe. Putin doesn't want the headlines, nostalgia, or the accompanying journalistic analysis of Russian leaders of the past. In his authoritative regime, it's all about keeping control and avoiding stirring up sentiments that could be critical. Unfortunately, the church is toeing the line. It makes me sad.

@Shirley Bailey you are probably right but it's the principal of the matter, ya feel? Like it just seems wrong to keep people's remains in a lab to me, it's so impersonal

@@JustPeachy998 Yeah. It was Boris Yeltsin that was present at the first funerals. My understanding is Vladimir Putin didn't attend the 100 year anniversary of their death even though it was a big event at Yekaterinburg.

Never kill anyone. Killing adults is horrible too. Adults are human as well. Murder in general is disgusting and awful and all killers should be put to justice.

Politically, it made sense for the Communists. If they let any of the children live, they could have garnered enough support from the rest of the world to get them reinstated on the throne. As far as their cause went, horrible as it was, they really had no other options.

Always kill the kids. Especially the sons

If movies and books have taught me anything is if you want to wipe families out you have to kill everyone including the kids. Kids grow up, kids learn revenge.

Ok kill the kids, let the dog live :)

Imagine that killer’s smug ass face being the last thing you see.

:’/

So were the countless children who starved and died under Romanov rule. But nobody cares about them, because they don't have a heartwarming story to their deaths.

@@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus how can a child's death be heartwarming?

@@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus just because those things happened under Romanov rule doesn’t mean it was their fault

Yeah, but all kinds of monsters were children.

Like really they were too spoiled and out of touch, they did NOT need to be murdered in such a horrible way! Sure things were going on, but it's a bit barbaric to murder anyone like that. Fuckin Nazis I swear.

@@rach3092 They where murdered by untrained thugs. Remind any one of what would happen if those thugs who started CHAZ got any control?

Jimmy the dog survived. "Read" (scanned something) recently. Ended up in Scotland? I think.

He was at the wrong place at the wrong time. If they kept them alive, he'd be a symbol for the whites to gain new life.

Own Petard From what I’ve read Jimmy (Anastasia’s dog) was killed in the basement with her. One of the other dogs was shot outside the home for barking. Alexei (the heir’s) dog survived as she had run away. She was later found on the streets and lived a very interesting life before living out her days at Windsor Castle. Obviously I’m not sure of the truth of this (and who knows if it was the same dog), but it’s a sad story all around.

You would think he could have given them safe passage to the Americas!

Had he known the result I'm sure he would have acted different, saddest part is that realization came too late for him. We always think we have time and time is the one thing we have no guarantee on.

And then they bought the Russian royal family jewellery for a song from some female survivors in exile...so much for family

There was a world war going on. Ironically Kaiser Wilhelm was also their cousin.
But yeah there was a world war going on so I don’t fault king George for not wanting to deal with extracting the Russian royal family from Russia in the midst of both revolution and world war. Across a war torn Europe multiple front lines to Britain and the across the ocean where german u boats were lurking to America.

The Czar family had connections to the danish royal family but apparently fleeing to Denmark wasn’t an option either. Czar Nicolai 2. was a son of the danish Princess Marie Sophie Frederikke Dagmar, or Marija Fjodorovna, daughter of King Christian IX of Denmark.
Princess Dagmar survived the revolution and moved back to Denmark in 1919 and died there in 1928 80 years old.

I love your ice princess pic.

caramel coffee Good old misogyny...

Y haplotypes follow only the male lineage, so it's not hat hard anymore to trace the patrilineal line.

That idea is how we get the so called mitochondrial Eve concept. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

... "You only know who your Mother is and can only guess at who your Father is" ...

hey, do you mind me asking how one becomes a geneticist? cuz i want to be one and ive been struggling to find out how

@@bleed8812 short answer, a lot of school. That said, you’ve got a few options.
You could end up working for the gov like at the CDC, industry like a company for profit, a university as a prof and/or researcher, or even as a medical doctor who also does research.
You’ll need at least a bachelors to get your foot in the door (like working as a lab tech/research associate) and what you’ll be able to do will increase with more schooling. Idk about masters (running joke is you can’t do much with them) but with a PhD you can do just about anything. The path I’m working toward rn is grad school for my PhD -> post doc program (basically you run your own research in someone else’s lab) -> my own lab at a university (I wanna be a prof eventually).
Idk where you are in your academic career but I’d research colleges with good science programs (I went to UCLA and majored in MIMG which is basically genetics) and/or grad schools with good genetics programs. You don’t have to have everything figured out right away. Take your time. Talk to people. Maybe find a nice prof who’d be willing to mentor you. Possibilities and pathways to that goal are varied and more or less endless

@@Supaawesomeification i really didnt expect a long answer like this from some random youtube comment so thanks alot for taking the time out of your day to do this :D
i guess i have a better idea of what to look for now i really appreciate it

@@bleed8812 lol I tend to go overboard with explaining things but I’m glad you appreciate it. Best of luck! And remember, it’s ok to change your mind. I went to school with genetics as my goal and fell in love with virology. There will be ups and downs and maybe you’ll end up somewhere unexpected but I’m confident it’ll all work out in the end. Hope you have a good rest of your day!

@@Supaawesomeification Very kind of you to help the budding geneticist!👏

right! i feel like everytime i research more into the romanovs even when i come up with similar info each time, i still feel like i learn something new or yet another crazy thing that happened. it's so interesting

Yes, the story of that family is tragic but considering the general state of the country and how many people lived miserable lives and died horribly that the tsar could have helped but didn't, the Romanov family's death is by far not the biggest tragedy. It is just that the names and faces of the millions that died have been forgotten and are therefore not as emotionally charged as the Romanov's.

lumipaint I seriously doubt they would've tried to put Alexei on the throne if they discovered his haemophilia. He would have been to ill to rule

@@aluminium4303 inbreeding is a b*!@h

That was & occasionally still is the way of governments & monarchies & angry mobs. They don't see a kid as an innocent so much as an enemy, a witness or a possible FUTURE enemy. Some people get stuck in mob mentality & make evil decisions under that influence, some people are just plain evil to the core.

War fucking sucks and humans put politics over life itself.

The White Russians absolutely would have used the Romanovs as figures to rally around, even if the former czar and his family didn't want that. The Bolsheviks thought they didn't have any better option, unfortunately.

Actually, both Anastasia and Anastasios come from the word "Anàstasis" which means ressurection. As for the word "Athanasia" (immortality), it has nothing in common with Anastasia. It might look similar and even sound kinda similar, but grammatically speaking, they don't have anything in common.

@@Eleni1002 That's interesting. It's surprising to me that the Greek words for "resurrection" and "immortality" aren't related, especially since they sound so similar. Do you have any sources on their etymology? (I'm not doubting you, I'm just a linguistics nerd and would like to learn more.)

@@aeronalto1065 Think of these two like this:
Anastasia for example translates to resurrection, meaning someone who has died and was brought back to life. It is a very common name in Greek Orthodox societies because it holds a more religious meaning (Jesus Christ and all that) and is commonly given to girls born around Easter time.
Now as for the name Athanasia, it translates to eternally alive, it uses the -a- deprivation (A- deprivation + the word thanasia derived from Thanatos the Greek word for death) to signify the immortality of the person who is given this name.
As you can see, even though these words may sound similar, they do not share the same exact meaning and they are not etymologically related. I hope I helped a bit more and sorry for the lengthy comment hehe ^^

As an atheist, this has always cracked me up so much!

Dawn of the Dead: Romanov Resurrected
Anastasia is back. And she hungers for flesh!
Coming soon to a theatre near you.

the confusion that is in russian masses' heads is astounding... they canonized the royal family, literally worship them (disrespecting this Stalin-founded version of russian Orthodox church is literally a prison sentence in russian federation), AND at the same time, worship their murderers, Lenin and the communist party.

@Tereigh Keating-Hart Sarcasm.

Not to mention they were happy to go and fully cooperating. It kind of turns my stomach.

Finally someone also understands how utterly creepy it was. Not only horrific, but incredibly creepy

The sadistic cruelty of it is truly almost incomprehensible.

I have that book too. It's fascinating!

He was a brilliant man. I am thoroughly disgusted by the lack of intelligence in the people that follow this channel.
I've seen some dumb shit comments here before, but it just keeps getting worse in every new video that is put out. You would think anyone listening & halfway grasping this multi-MULTI-faceted, long story here (OR OTHERWISE BUT ESPECIALLY WATCHING THE WHOLE DAMN VIDEO)would be smart enough to know better. "You Would Think", being the operative key to that narrative.

Yes, it's a fascinating book. Dr. Maples has solved many police mysteries based on what he found at the scene of a death. All "deathlings" would enjoy reading his book.

I really enjoyed that book

Me too! I had a full-blown obsession with the Romanovs. Also, the Titanic disaster, but that's a story for another time.

well, it goes deeper then just her father, basically when you really get into the history of it all you'll see that the fall of the tzar was basically guaranteed to happen. even before Nicholas II became tzar there had already been attempted assassinations on the royal family, One I believe was even a train bombing. If you ever watch the documentary of Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna life (the last grand duchess) I believe they touch on that a bit.

@@bdoglance Didn't Nicholas's father execute Lennin's older brother?

what do you mean by "white russian"? There are literally no black russian people

White Russians were the group opposing the revolution.

@@iuliya95 Its not about skin colour. White or black Russians are more to do with politicosociological groups. But you're right, I can see why that would be confusing.

@@robertcranston529 I see now, but it really has another name: The white guard (Belaya gvardiya).

@@minstrelcat1951 yeah, now I understand the point, there were “white” and “red” guards

It's spelled Tsar, not Zar.

Kinda like the Russian Orthodox Church doesnt want everyone to have them all buried together to keep them with the fantasy that one survived 🤷‍♀️

I feel gutted. I really do. That the church still has that much power over the country's wishes.

Churches don’t operate on proof, just on wishful thinking and pre-conceived notions.

@@THENAFERATU true that. I'd feel more attracted to Russian Orthodoxy if there wasn't the anti-Semitic conspiracy theory and other things. It's a sad and frustrating situation.

Keep in mind that the Russian branch of the church is controlled by the government. If church authority go against the government authorities, they get the same treatment as the Romanovs. Would *you* get yourself killed just to say “Let’s just bury them!”?

My father passed away on Nov 9th, 2019. Giving you nothing but hugs and peace. I know how hard it is. Thank you Caitlin for normalizing death for us. I used to have anxiety about death, especially immediately after my dads death. Since watching your videos it's become MUCH less taboo and is something special I share with him. I've even spoken to my 5 year old about it. I'd like to give him the gift of not fearing such a natural process of life.

@@THEKINGDOGE__ My sympathies to you both , my dad passed Nov. 9th 1993 , I was 13 years old , I choose not to go to his viewing ( looking at the body before burial) I wasn't scared I just didn't want to remember him died and lifeless , still stand by that ( my choice) . Death is natural, may they all rest in peace ❤

@@RavenMacy my uncle committed suicide on November 9 1993. I too was 13 years old

Funny

...always is. 🕸🤗🎃👻🎃🤮💩☠🙊🙉🙈! ...niet or no. But, YES IT IS, DAYS LATER WHEN ONE FEELS BETTER AFTER...PURGING. EWWWWW×EWWWWWWW. Diarrhea N emesis happen for a very good reason. We are what we eat. Wonderful day N bye.🤗

Honestly it just makes me really mad. I understand this was Russia and I understand why they wanted to execute them.
But what I don't understand was why they had to kill the entire family and the servants. They really could have just executed Nicholas and sent the family into exile. They could have sent away the servants. They could have sent away the romanovs save Nicholas and then just executed Nicholas. But they literally killed helpless women and children which puts them on the wrong side of History.