CNN's Miguel Marquez joins Captain Morgan McManus on a ship simulator to try and recreate the moments leading up to the collision of a cargo ship into Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge. #CNN #News
So sad for the people who died, truly hope their families get the support they need. Thank you for listing their names and pictures, helps bring the magnitude of this disaster to life for those of us not involved.
@@EthanLomasand?? You mad at the immigrates but nit mad at the American business owner that hired them, they whole damn crew was from central America. They come because the get hired by Americans Focus your anger to the correct source and you'll change the system
There were also no dolphins, the barriers many (if not most) bridges use to protect them from an accident like this. I suspect we'll soon see many bridges constructing them where they are absent or too weak for the size of today's cargo ships. Both or either of these could have saved those lives and the vital piece of infrastructure as well as the countless hours and dollars that individuals and trucking companies will have to spend to find another way to where they're going, for a very long time.
Don't... the best case scenario is the people in their vehicles were unconscious and concussed, before drowning. The worst case is they had the wind knocked-out of them, were already struggling to breath before drowning, and died absolutely terrified.
The Key Bridge has 185’ of clearance above the water at its apex. Even at the first major pylon, you’re nearly there. A object falling from that height reaches about 74 mph at the time of impact with the water, which in this scenario might as well be concrete. The sheer deceleration force upon impact would almost certainly render you unconscious in an instant.
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I rented a paddle boat once before and let me tell you, once the power goes out, the paddle boat has no steering. Luckily, all I hit was the pier and the pier was strong.
And a ship going at 8 knots isn't going to come to a stop right after power goes out. The forward momentum will continue, just as the forward momentum of passengers in a land vehicle continues if the vehicle is stopped by a tree. And they'd go through the windshield or other consequences depending on speed, airbags, seatbelts etc
Dude, this isn't some sort of spectacle. The point wasn't to simulate the carnage, something which is completely pointless because there's actually plenty of real-time footage of the collapse, you can watch it to your heart's content. The point was to simulate the incident, and especially the crew's response to it, that either actively led to or failed to avoid the accident, because while there are certainly measures that could be taken to protect this and other structures from impacts such as this one, prevention is always the best strategy. Yes, what happened was extremely tragic and the loss of human life and damage to structures could have been prevented, but no one really wants to have container or cruise ships crashing into concrete barriers near bridges and plugging shipping lanes, either. A huge part of the damage done to the city of Baltimore comes from that side effect, which could've been a thing even if the bridge didn't fell or got structurally compromised at all. Remember the Ever Given getting stuck in the Suez Canal? Yeah, there were no victims there, and it was still a huge problem.
@damedusa5107 Exactly. They said it was a simulation and barely show anything. I thought they were gonna show from when the ship crew knew something was wrong through when they hit the bridge.
@@multipl3sure, if it is an issue with maintenance being put off or something, let the company pay. But I guarantee they will at least try to put it off on the crew and that's fucked up if it really wasn't their fault. You see it all tge time tho
@@ashtonwolgamott3526 There MAY have been something wrong with the ship, that should have been fixed. The bridge was DEFINITELY unprotected and outdated for that kind of harbour!
@@multipl3the dodgy thing was they left port after having electrical issues the days prior. I don’t think anything outside happened other than a company wanted the ship out of port.
For people that, still don't get why the ship turned toward the bridge when it lost power. Remember, that's there's something called(( currents and ocean currents)) it doesn't matter if the boat or ship is 20,000 lbs or 200 tons. People who owns boats "should" know that.
add the wind acting on a large 'dead' vessel and the fact that when you go full astern the stern will swing to port and bows to starboard .... all adding to point the ship at the piers.
@@mlane7261 I believe it was the Port anchor that was dropped. That's on the left of the ship, so the pilot was trying to use it to help not only stop the ship but to pull the ship left since the ship was drifting right and ran into the right pylon. So dropping the left/port anchor was probably their best bet to avoid the collision, but there was just not enough time. The crew and pilot did a remarkable job.
@@PearlKittens-dv1sh Oh, okay, I guess that automatically means we can't have empathy for a human being like you, like us, for tragically losing their lives. How can you be so heartless and ignorant about a historical & heartbreaking night that impacted not just the 'legals' in the ship, the law enforcement, and the civilians. It ended up killing those immigrant workers. So, no matter what their legal status was at the time it does NOT mean they are "less" than any other human! I hope you find peace within yourself to someday feel compassion, even if it's just the slightest bit.
The ship's crew was probably never able to respond in time, You don't just stop a ship like that, it just continues sailing for quite some time. it's all sad!
Someone May have or Should have known of the maintenance issues that this vessel had been experiencing on the lead up to this tragedy. The thing that not many have mentioned is the possibility of contaminated fuel, as being a possibility. You can bet the NTSB will know the source of every drop of fuel, should that be a contributing factor. Also a serious question is the cargo on board, some stated as highly dangerous and being shipped in a very busy port in the metropolitan area, and finally, who greenlighted the vessel's departure with knowledge of just some of the aforementioned problems, and to not deviate from the normal protocols (local bar pilots on board, etc.), and allow a one time fully deployed tugboat operation to navigate this vessel to open waters, and then start the engines. Condolences to the families who lost their loved ones, and may they Rest in Peace. 💔
I think dropping the anchor is a mistake, it helps the ship stop faster, it also pull the ship to one side (I think the port anchor was dropped) But if they are still executing a turn before power loss, I can see why they drop the anchor. Because the rudder would have been frozen when the power goes.
@@cosplayshopbut it was said that the captain pulled full astern when power was restored, and I hear many people especially in the naval scene that Dali is a single propeller ship and single props when in reverse like to sway to one side, this case being the right
Does that mean every time a big ship loses power its all over? Surely there must be a way to ensure even in such an unlikely situation occuring there should be a way to avoid an accident
@@yemx4683 main engine often does for both. There's an auxiliary for power. There can be issues with switching over. My last engine room fire was accompanied by a failed relay which hampered fire fighting.
No, remember that simulators are used for brainwashing. CNN is now attempting to implant images into your hear, along with sound, to convince you of the story they want you to believe. And the story is likely not real, which they know, and is why they are starting the brainwashing program.
I'm sorry but I'm a Sea Man Retired Commercial Fisherman... what I don't understand is why they weren't centered to clear the bridge through the middle!!??? No other traffic whatsoever. I've never saw any Captain I worked with head directly toward any solid mass, for any reason because ships have momentum, and, don't turn/stop like cars. When the alarm went off the helmsman should've turned IMMEDIATELY to clear that bridge. I think he froze. Poor guy.
He didn't freeze, can clearly be seen by the actions taken on the voyage recorder, summary from 5:10 onwards in the video. If a vessel that large loses power for 2-3 minutes at almost 9 knots, it can surely go off course, as a result of vessel balance, and underwater effects from currents or channels. Other videos on KRplus show it was initially following the exit channel correctly.
@@willzyxOfficial Got it I didn't see those videos. Actually never been "Dead in the water" before. I was trying to figure it out. I wonder if it's Tech Related? I guess I'll have to let it play out.
how about having a mandatory tug boat escort near critical infrastructure for safety? now is probably close to a billion dollar of infrastructure + economic damage… not to mention the loss of lives
nearly 50 years nothing happened. Pay tug boats for 50 years will cost maybe more than a billion. The bridge was build for vessels and traffic for the '70-'80 and was never really updated for vessels and traffic of today. Your safety must also grow with the traffic and ships. If I only have one access option, I have to protect it especially so that it isn't blocked anytime. But modernizing costs money. It worked so well for almost 5 decades. Better we save the money. That was a disaster with announcement.
The tugs are not needed. This was a freak accident. The ship itself is equipped with bow thrusters that essentially do the job of a tug team. That said, they do not work when the power fails. This is ultimately going to come to as to why the power failed, and not "Why didn't they have tugs".
Its better to not watch, and defintely don't listen, to the similator. All you need to know is that simulators/sound are used in brainwashing programs. The more intersting question is why are they using the brainwashing program?
The presenter whom was in the simulator said it all. The timing was tragically not right. It couldn't have had a worse set of circumstances. I believe you will find tugs will be in attendance right through tothe Chesapeake and other passages facing this set of scenarios currently. Very sad business indeed. The one big plus out of all this is the vessel is still afloat thanks to the professionalim of ship and bridge crew. Many lives were saved as well and the swift reaction of the teams involved are to be hailed. We hold al the victims and their familes as wèll as the Piĺòt, Master and crew of the MV Dali.
The one critical piece of information missing is "what does a normal transit look like?" A total loss of power means the previous heading is locked in. Why was the ship AIMED AT THE BRIGE Prior to blackout?
Without power a ship can drift off its correct direction due to wind/ tide/ current. This is shown by the route map, the correct and the actual routes will gradually diverge as the ship is pushed sideways by wind/ tide/ current. It is possible that power to engines or steering went down earlier than the lights, we can't tell yet. Hopefully the " black box" they have retrieved from the ship will tell the investigators what they need to know.. With no working forward propultion, a ship would be unable to resist this drift effect. BTW The ship may look head on to the bridge, especially in the dark , but the route marked on the ( gps tracking) map shows it was not. Also remember that the ship was in the process of turning out of the port and its quite a narrow turning space for such a big cargo vessel. It is the loss of propultion forward, at the worst possible moment, that appears to have caused the problem
After September The 11 the attacks on NYC , and the Pentagon & Shanksvile.Pardon my skeptical self. This feels & looking like intentionally done, because they went right for the central pillars unless proven otherwise?
Large ships all have Incredibly LOUD Huge Horns. Did the people in the wheel house BLOW THE HELL OUT OF THE HORN to warn the unfortunate workers on the bridge??
Out of the bay? No. The bay is way too long but they definitely should to get out of the harbor. I've driven over this bridge numerous of times and the bay bridge 100s of times. the bay bridge is 4 miles long so It would be pretty hard to hit that one accidentally...
All harbors have different rules. Where the ship was the speed of those ships is 8 knots and at that speed a tug can't be along or attached to the ship
Wow! Didn’t know they had power go out. Thanks for this simulation. Now does that bridge go up? Or turn? Or is it high enough for ships to go under? It doesn’t look tall enough.
Did they know there was an issue before the lights go out at 2:40? If that's all the time they had there wasn't much anyone could do to clear the bridge. Even with warning they probably wouldnt have made it off.
When sea and anchor detail is called the after stering is staffed by the engineers. There is just a radio call away from manually stering the ship. Why wasn't the steering machine room wasn't staffed?.
You do realize that this isn't a Hollywood movie right? There is no "manual steering" also it doesn't matter how much you turn the rudder when the screw isn't turning you have no steering
I am guessing this may lead many cities to rethink their shipping routes and procedures around such sensitive structures. It's one thing to be moored, or hit a pier, or something minor like that; hitting a bridge and destroying it, while killing several people and plugging all shipping lanes to a port in the process is a completely different ballgame. Imagine if this had happened during rush hour?
The bridge should of had collision Islands to stop ships getting to close to the support columns of the bridge, that bridge was disaster waiting to happen
Hello There. Wonderful story. We learned by watching it that having a visual representation is a powerful way of educating the public on the perspective of the crew. Now imagine how more powerful that simulation could be if it included audio (ambient noises) to engage another sense (ears). Also, lessons from aroma therapy, helping engage another sense, we suspect would enhance the eXperiencE. Love this perspective so much. Gave us many ideas. 😇🥰
That’s kinda questions’ answers I know-with 8 knots even the engine got back(answers) it’s too difficult to stop the ship in less than half miles with speed over 7knots
@@user-fz8fy4zl1c @WhatsGoingOnWithShipping has a good breakdown. They were IN the shipping lane when they lost power, then WITHOUT power, they started drifting, as they had no control over the rudder. By the time they got power back, it was too late to avoid the collision. krplus.net/bidio/fpdxqWaTg32vhIIsi=LqPKQxaHiQJ9QBRs&t=89
@@justarandomnobody7451< just talking out arse.. McAllister ran a pair of Tugs unmoored and oriented the ship out towards the bridge/ exited the port.. Baltimore is a mess.. defunded a ton of things related to the harbor (water rescue dive teams, harbor authorities, contracted tug/towing, etc) along with the insanity of defunding the police in 2020.
@@cyndybutler7330 so who did this purposely then? The ship pilot? Who happens to be a locally trained n employed professional hired by the Port. Or lemme guess, the deep state..... Cmon candy, accidents happen. Stop jumping at shadows!
There are several Independent engines on these ships for different function, My question in my ignorance is is there not back up engines for electrical power ?
@@dorientjewoller113 And it has been called the bridge for the duration of modern history. Its their own fault for being uneducated, I guess. Although this should be common knowledge for anyone over the age of 12.
that's just what the world has called that area for a long time now, unfortunate coincidence in topics in this scenario, just gotta pay attention to context.... but tbf I'm really good at that mainly because i read a lot including Chinese light novels,its common to use the word "en" to mean several things from yes,to hm,to wait etc etc,and it's all based off the situation and context so im used to that.
never ceases to amaze me how fast the media is able to find so called 'experts' and simulators when something happens.. Almost like they have people lined up in queue to offer their opinion in case something happens.
No unlike cars . When blackout occurs in ships . They do not have any control . Because then your are in control of nature . Most specific water currents . Total blackout lives your engine off . Ship engine helps to go forward . Even if water current is against your direction that time . When ship has lost engine . It is mercy of water current . The flow of water at that time dictate direction of ship . One thing to add you said manual . Ship or car or any vehicle do not work . If engine gets off in journey . The problem in ship and plane is if you lost engine . In plane you are going down . In ship you are going with the water current . Until if you are lucky for anchoring in open water . If you are unlucky . If there is something thing in your way . Like ship , bridge in this case . Then accident . Because your ship speed at power loss blackout and water current during that time . Will have Total control . Nature control.
The pressure applied upon operators to move a load is intense whether its a boat, plane or truck. Ive hauled fuel. So, Investigators will uncover any bad decision to depart. I have had mechanical issues that I could live with to make a delivery. I got away with it though. Its a call thats made by operators everyday.
As a former sailor: When the tug hooked up to the dahli. The morning lines are disconnected from the pier. The tug pulls out the ship . Then the tug is disconnected from the ship then the ship is underway.
@@lindaSmith6588 Oh, great 👍. I see your u live in a nice place indeed. I've been to PA several times.i was in Harrisburg 2yrs ago for a visit to a friend 30th marriage anniversary celebration party 🎉🥂🍷🍾. I enjoyed every moment of my stay over there and had fun all through 😊.
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They was my question too! Just 2 minutes before crash they had a black out or induced a black out to save them? I was very sympathetic to the crew and captain until I saw hear what he had to say.
@@marylyn3081 No they didn't... they called a few second before impact.. vehicles can still be seen driving across up until about 30 seconds before impact...
Never mind the ship, where were the sacrificial concrete stantons that should have been there in the water 1/2 mile before the bridge to guide the hull of the ship away from the bridge supports. Never think a ship won’t hit your bridge, think the opposite, plan and build accordingly. Lack of safety investment is now costing America dearly in both lives and dollars 😮🇬🇧💙💙💙💙💙💙💙🙏🇬🇧🌈
The ship had multiple power outages, therefore drive loss, all within smaller distances than 1/2 mile of the bridge that make those pointless. Good thing you came in here with your unrelated pride emoji to save the day 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Better question is why does a bridge built in the 1930s have protecting pier fenders that prevented a similar disaster (Cosco Busan) and a 1970s bridge not have the fenders?
CMDR is correct.. they have to hire contractors now and finish recovery first ..(since Baltimore Democrats defunded the police, harbor authorities and dive rescue team units, back in 2020)
You do understand the logistics involved here, besides accounting for the deceased and where they were at the time of impact and also where they were found (which in itself will tell a story if there's a civil trial). Structural integrity has to be determined on every sqaure foot of the disaster area (for saftey and for future possible litigation) Understand that there are many pieces being put together at this time and it'll take time to "clean" this up.
Interesting to hear, I saw the Biden White House press conference where he mentioned that the Federal Government would flip the bill for litterally everything. If that's the case that would detail that money is no object and maybe the US Navy who's been called in will just back up the Brink's Truck and say "Boy's that's where the money goes and don't ask questions".@@Scarletohellno
😂😂And probaby the 16k miles Biden drive over it with Xi Jinping - in his corvette filled with stolen classified documents, just simply wore out the structure.
Amazing explanation. Agree 100%. It was something unpleasant in the worst scenario a captain wanted to cope with BECAUSE of the ship’s speed and distance! Even though we need to take into account the WATER DEPH there when the ship drifted out of the Navigation channel, the shallow water affects the ship's maneuverability (SQUAT effect), etc but how we can control it if we have lost SHIPS PROPULSION under that scenario? Thx. BTW Am a captain 😢 looking actually for a job.
@bigoldgrizzly I hope so, but to be employed there, it is a little bit difficult 😕 . Usually, the management there gives an opportunity to Indians, Philippines, Ucranian etc etc. Even am duly trained... thx anyway, for your good wishes.
Maybe it was the prop walk caused the stern to move port side, of course the bow would move to starboard side accordingly. While propeller was in full reverse (judging by the amount of engine smoke), the rudder was much less effective in steering the ship, despite the ship was having emergence/regular power minutes before the collision. Sounds like pilot's or operator's error when they were under great stress to regain directional control, they should have kept the ship going forward inside the navigation channel as it was instead of putting the ship in reversing.
It would be great if the CNN reporter just shut up and let the captain speak.
Lol
bot the captain , reported losing power. that would be in chief engineer
He is an expert
I think he was buzzing as there were 2 virile cadets behind him 🤤
So as the Concordia's obe did I guess 😅
So sad for the people who died, truly hope their families get the support they need. Thank you for listing their names and pictures, helps bring the magnitude of this disaster to life for those of us not involved.
I guess it will depend on how well they were liked.
i think they were immigrants so ...
Spot on accurate.
@@EthanLomasand?? You mad at the immigrates but nit mad at the American business owner that hired them, they whole damn crew was from central America. They come because the get hired by Americans
Focus your anger to the correct source and you'll change the system
@@ThePhillyspade wow! I’m not angry in the slightest. I’m just glad Americans were not hurt 🤗
Tugboats should be mandatory until every cargo ship is clear of any possible hazards
to expensive. Then i look for a port without long expensive tug escort. To reach Baltimore you need also 2 pilots. Cheaper is one pilot.
A question I have is how much could they have done to move that massive ship in 90 seconds?
There goes your free shipping option
There were also no dolphins, the barriers many (if not most) bridges use to protect them from an accident like this. I suspect we'll soon see many bridges constructing them where they are absent or too weak for the size of today's cargo ships. Both or either of these could have saved those lives and the vital piece of infrastructure as well as the countless hours and dollars that individuals and trucking companies will have to spend to find another way to where they're going, for a very long time.
@@SoCalFreelance As a U.S.C.G. licensed Captain,... 90 seconds, absolutely nothing (but soil your pants)
I can't imagine being trapped under water in a vehicle by tons of metal and steel asphalt etc. God I pray for those lost and their families!!
Don't... the best case scenario is the people in their vehicles were unconscious and concussed, before drowning. The worst case is they had the wind knocked-out of them, were already struggling to breath before drowning, and died absolutely terrified.
The Key Bridge has 185’ of clearance above the water at its apex. Even at the first major pylon, you’re nearly there. A object falling from that height reaches about 74 mph at the time of impact with the water, which in this scenario might as well be concrete. The sheer deceleration force upon impact would almost certainly render you unconscious in an instant.
@@FourDollaRacing sweet Jesus that's a horrifying thought.
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Never happen in England and we've got some of the most dangerous seas and the busiest shipping Lane in the world 🌎 Dover to Calais, France 🇫🇷
I rented a paddle boat once before and let me tell you, once the power goes out, the paddle boat has no steering. Luckily, all I hit was the pier and the pier was strong.
Not funny. 🖕🏻🖕🏼🖕🖕🏽🖕🏾🖕🏿
And a ship going at 8 knots isn't going to come to a stop right after power goes out. The forward momentum will continue, just as the forward momentum of passengers in a land vehicle continues if the vehicle is stopped by a tree. And they'd go through the windshield or other consequences depending on speed, airbags, seatbelts etc
@@recoveringsoul755 I was going way faster than 8 knots in that rented paddle boat. Then my legs got tired, and all hell broke loose.
😂😂😂
@@Paiadakine lol.
I rented a houseboat once that supposedly slept 10.
I couldn't steer straight for anything. I kept over correcting
Does a simulation but doesn’t actually show it. Why ? What was the point?
Why would the demolition be programmed in the simulator?
Dude, this isn't some sort of spectacle. The point wasn't to simulate the carnage, something which is completely pointless because there's actually plenty of real-time footage of the collapse, you can watch it to your heart's content. The point was to simulate the incident, and especially the crew's response to it, that either actively led to or failed to avoid the accident, because while there are certainly measures that could be taken to protect this and other structures from impacts such as this one, prevention is always the best strategy.
Yes, what happened was extremely tragic and the loss of human life and damage to structures could have been prevented, but no one really wants to have container or cruise ships crashing into concrete barriers near bridges and plugging shipping lanes, either. A huge part of the damage done to the city of Baltimore comes from that side effect, which could've been a thing even if the bridge didn't fell or got structurally compromised at all. Remember the Ever Given getting stuck in the Suez Canal? Yeah, there were no victims there, and it was still a huge problem.
@damedusa5107 Exactly. They said it was a simulation and barely show anything. I thought they were gonna show from when the ship crew knew something was wrong through when they hit the bridge.
@@Mainyehc they barely showed even what you are stating. It was utterly pointless. And just filler for the brain dead
@@Jaibee27 everyone on the ship is alive
Condolences to the men.
Condolences to the victims' families 💐
One thing is for certain. This comment section contains more 'experts' than cnn or any other media source could ever hope to round up.
ONE thing for CERTAIN in this report. The Pilots of the Ship did EVERYTHING THEY COULD TO STOP and AVOID THIS ACCEDENT.
Something dodgy happened here. The investigation will prove it and the company needs to pay!
@@multipl3sure, if it is an issue with maintenance being put off or something, let the company pay. But I guarantee they will at least try to put it off on the crew and that's fucked up if it really wasn't their fault. You see it all tge time tho
@@ashtonwolgamott3526 There MAY have been something wrong with the ship, that should have been fixed. The bridge was DEFINITELY unprotected and outdated for that kind of harbour!
sure ,sure right by the numbers.
@@multipl3the dodgy thing was they left port after having electrical issues the days prior. I don’t think anything outside happened other than a company wanted the ship out of port.
One of the most Anxiety bridges to cross in Baltimore! Worst nightmare scenario! Prayers to the Families!
At least not anymore
Why was that ship ever at any point aimed at a support column?
Are you serious?! It lost power! Therefore no control to steer the ship. It obviously drifted 🤦🏻♀️
@@loysh8821 yes seriously. I highly doubt the currents flow smack in the middle of the columns
That simulator is freaking awesome!
If we have cameras on bridges we can also have audible alarms.
Could be similar to a tornado siren
For people that, still don't get why the ship turned toward the bridge when it lost power. Remember, that's there's something called(( currents and ocean currents)) it doesn't matter if the boat or ship is 20,000 lbs or 200 tons.
People who owns boats "should" know that.
add the wind acting on a large 'dead' vessel and the fact that when you go full astern the stern will swing to port and bows to starboard .... all adding to point the ship at the piers.
"People who owns boats" i assume you dont
Probably the anchor pulled the ship in that direction
Anchor was dropped and that might have pulled the ship in that direction too
@@mlane7261 I believe it was the Port anchor that was dropped. That's on the left of the ship, so the pilot was trying to use it to help not only stop the ship but to pull the ship left since the ship was drifting right and ran into the right pylon. So dropping the left/port anchor was probably their best bet to avoid the collision, but there was just not enough time. The crew and pilot did a remarkable job.
Just to give perspective (a bit simplified): if a supertanker needs to come to a stop, with engines running full astern it will take 15 kilometres.
It was stressful for me because the reporter was ruining it by not allowing the captain to speak and provide as much information as possible.
That reporter was SUPER ANNOYING!
I pray for those families! I send my condolences… these men were the providers and they just wanted to go to work and go home….
They were illegal
@@PearlKittens-dv1sh
Oh, okay, I guess that automatically means we can't have empathy for a human being like you, like us, for tragically losing their lives. How can you be so heartless and ignorant about a historical & heartbreaking night that impacted not just the 'legals' in the ship, the law enforcement, and the civilians. It ended up killing those immigrant workers. So, no matter what their legal status was at the time it does NOT mean they are "less" than any other human! I hope you find peace within yourself to someday feel compassion, even if it's just the slightest bit.
So for now on anybody that's working on a bridge will have some type of emergency communication where they can be told to get off the bridge?
Why would they get off the bridge?
They were alerted but it was too late.
They use a different dispatch system...
Didn't the construction workers have cell phones or walkie-talkies?!?
Yeah they will have to work with high vis life preservers
Tidal flow may have moved the vessel towards the bridge.
You forgot to show the most important part, when the ship was turned hard to run directly into the pylon.
Yep all while the “power was out” too and supposedly wasn’t able to control the steering?
The ship's crew was probably never able to respond in time,
You don't just stop a ship like that, it just continues sailing for quite some time.
it's all sad!
Someone May have or Should have known of the maintenance issues that this vessel had been experiencing on the lead up to this tragedy. The thing that not many have mentioned is the possibility of contaminated fuel, as being a possibility. You can bet the NTSB will know the source of every drop of fuel, should that be a contributing factor. Also a serious question is the cargo on board, some stated as highly dangerous and being shipped in a very busy port in the metropolitan area, and finally, who greenlighted the vessel's departure with knowledge of just some of the aforementioned problems, and to not deviate from the normal protocols (local bar pilots on board, etc.), and allow a one time fully deployed tugboat operation to navigate this vessel to open waters, and then start the engines. Condolences to the families who lost their loved ones, and may they Rest in Peace. 💔
Money can buy everything including accountability
great simulation
My prayers such a tragic!!! 🙏🏾🙏🏾
The ship was heading safely between the pylons. If the skipper had allowed the ship to float through, the bridge would not have been struck.
I think dropping the anchor is a mistake, it helps the ship stop faster, it also pull the ship to one side (I think the port anchor was dropped)
But if they are still executing a turn before power loss, I can see why they drop the anchor. Because the rudder would have been frozen when the power goes.
@@cosplayshopbut it was said that the captain pulled full astern when power was restored, and I hear many people especially in the naval scene that Dali is a single propeller ship and single props when in reverse like to sway to one side, this case being the right
Does that mean every time a big ship loses power its all over? Surely there must be a way to ensure even in such an unlikely situation occuring there should be a way to avoid an accident
They didn't just lose power
@@yemx4683 main engine often does for both.
There's an auxiliary for power.
There can be issues with switching over.
My last engine room fire was accompanied by a failed relay which hampered fire fighting.
@@CMDR_Hal_Melambythe bow thrusters are electric
There are backup generators as well.
No, remember that simulators are used for brainwashing. CNN is now attempting to implant images into your hear, along with sound, to convince you of the story they want you to believe. And the story is likely not real, which they know, and is why they are starting the brainwashing program.
I'm sorry but I'm a Sea Man Retired Commercial Fisherman... what I don't understand is why they weren't centered to clear the bridge through the middle!!??? No other traffic whatsoever. I've never saw any Captain I worked with head directly toward any solid mass, for any reason because ships have momentum, and, don't turn/stop like cars. When the alarm went off the helmsman should've turned IMMEDIATELY to clear that bridge. I think he froze. Poor guy.
He didn't freeze, can clearly be seen by the actions taken on the voyage recorder, summary from 5:10 onwards in the video. If a vessel that large loses power for 2-3 minutes at almost 9 knots, it can surely go off course, as a result of vessel balance, and underwater effects from currents or channels. Other videos on KRplus show it was initially following the exit channel correctly.
@@willzyxOfficial Got it I didn't see those videos. Actually never been "Dead in the water" before. I was trying to figure it out. I wonder if it's Tech Related? I guess I'll have to let it play out.
I’m traumatized by this, is going to be hard to cross over a bridge without thinking of this tragedy 😢
I've never been scared of bridges but I traveled over this bridge daily for 9 years and you can bet I am absolutely terrified now.
@pokermale
..You used to live in this harbour area in Baltimore ?
You are not alone.
@@A.Netizen.Since.2010 I still do. I live a couple miles away from the Key Bridge.
I hate the Verrazano bridge in Staten Island especially when it dips down. I will never look at it the same 😢way
how about having a mandatory tug boat escort near critical infrastructure for safety?
now is probably close to a billion dollar of infrastructure + economic damage… not to mention the loss of lives
nearly 50 years nothing happened. Pay tug boats for 50 years will cost maybe more than a billion. The bridge was build for vessels and traffic for the '70-'80 and was never really updated for vessels and traffic of today. Your safety must also grow with the traffic and ships.
If I only have one access option, I have to protect it especially so that it isn't blocked anytime. But modernizing costs money. It worked so well for almost 5 decades. Better we save the money. That was a disaster with announcement.
It will be WAY more than a billion dollars when all is said and done.
@@muratti72muc better to pay for tugs instead of funerals.
Great idea.
At least until the bridges are up to date themselves.
The tugs are not needed. This was a freak accident. The ship itself is equipped with bow thrusters that essentially do the job of a tug team. That said, they do not work when the power fails. This is ultimately going to come to as to why the power failed, and not "Why didn't they have tugs".
I actually like these reenactment news segments. Ive seen a couple in my lifetime.
Families mourning their losses and a news crew come knocking wanting to know how you feel.... classy.
,,feels great!"
Thanks for the Simulator. All the beeps would make me panic.
i agree. i was totally over simulated by it :(
Beep beep beep
Its better to not watch, and defintely don't listen, to the similator. All you need to know is that simulators/sound are used in brainwashing programs. The more intersting question is why are they using the brainwashing program?
@@JeffreySmith7777 time for Diaper Don's change ⏰😁💩💩💩
NOT A MENTION OF THE DEAD COP IN NY SHOT AND KILLED BY A BLACK MAN. CNN SUCKS
The presenter whom was in the simulator said it all. The timing was tragically not right. It couldn't have had a worse set of circumstances. I believe you will find tugs will be in attendance right through tothe Chesapeake and other passages facing this set of scenarios currently. Very sad business indeed. The one big plus out of all this is the vessel is still afloat thanks to the professionalim of ship and bridge crew. Many lives were saved as well and the swift reaction of the teams involved are to be hailed. We hold al the victims and their familes as wèll as the Piĺòt, Master and crew of the MV Dali.
Murphy's Law... If something can go wrong, it eventually will go wrong.
Highly trained
farewell beautiful bridge. miss you
The one critical piece of information missing is "what does a normal transit look like?"
A total loss of power means the previous heading is locked in.
Why was the ship AIMED AT THE BRIGE Prior to blackout?
Without power a ship can drift off its correct direction due to wind/ tide/ current. This is shown by the route map, the correct and the actual routes will gradually diverge as the ship is pushed sideways by wind/ tide/ current. It is possible that power to engines or steering went down earlier than the lights, we can't tell yet. Hopefully the " black box" they have retrieved from the ship will tell the investigators what they need to know.. With no working forward propultion, a ship would be unable to resist this drift effect.
BTW The ship may look head on to the bridge, especially in the dark , but the route marked on the ( gps tracking) map shows it was not. Also remember that the ship was in the process of turning out of the port and its quite a narrow turning space for such a big cargo vessel. It is the loss of propultion forward, at the worst possible moment, that appears to have caused the problem
The "black box" will tell all.
Emp
It took 50 years to build and 2 seconds to destroy
Take off the zero and you're correct.
@@christopherbentley7289 Something that would stand for a 1/2 a century come down in 2 seconds it's hard to fathom that.
@@TheSwanlake2009 That's better.
It took 5 years
The ambient lighting's wrong, near darkness with containers up to bridge level obstructing vision.
How do you have a black out on a tanker ship 🚢 ?
After September The 11 the attacks on NYC , and the Pentagon & Shanksvile.Pardon my skeptical self. This feels & looking like intentionally done, because they went right for the central pillars unless proven otherwise?
Large ships all have Incredibly LOUD Huge Horns. Did the people in the wheel house BLOW THE HELL OUT OF THE HORN
to warn the unfortunate workers on the bridge??
😂😂😂😂 dumb comment. Dude THERE WASNT ENOUGH time for the construction to get off
Thank you. I really enjoyed this stimulation
yes, very stimulated after this exercise xD
'Enjoyed' seems a strange word in this context.
@@christopherbentley7289 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
What controls the steering sight or no sight being able to control what compass headed is crucial to this
Fun to see merchant ship bridge simulator.
a simulator? don't let KRplus gaming channels know, they'll all want to play it.
I don’t know maritime logistics but could these large ships have a Tugboat escort out of the bay?
Should they?
Out of the bay? No. The bay is way too long but they definitely should to get out of the harbor. I've driven over this bridge numerous of times and the bay bridge 100s of times. the bay bridge is 4 miles long so It would be pretty hard to hit that one accidentally...
All harbors have different rules. Where the ship was the speed of those ships is 8 knots and at that speed a tug can't be along or attached to the ship
Tugs aren't meant to babysit every ship that comes in and out of the harbor. And getting a tug into port costs more. That's why harbor pilots exist.
Americans just love drama and dramatic events, they just thrive on this
yes we do i just bought more stock options
Wow! Didn’t know they had power go out. Thanks for this simulation. Now does that bridge go up? Or turn? Or is it high enough for ships to go under? It doesn’t look tall enough.
Did they know there was an issue before the lights go out at 2:40? If that's all the time they had there wasn't much anyone could do to clear the bridge. Even with warning they probably wouldnt have made it off.
That ship should have never left port in the first place - they knew the ship was having electrical issues.
Voyage Data Recorder not black box.
"Black box" is the colloquial term people outside the industry are familiar with
Same difference
There will be lots of other data as well to correlate. Lots of fees for some maritime consultants.
When did they get all the people off the boat? I haven't seen anything about that!
I wonder if there were injuries for those onboard. So far heard nothing, not even how many people were on it smh
why would the video camera near the approach of the bridge cut off before the collision. tampering with evidence ?
We got the baltimore ship collison angle before gta 6
They needed distance and time, that they didn't have.
It seemed like the ship simulator crew were just as unprepared? The alarm goes off and the crew kind of stands around looking at one another?
When sea and anchor detail is called the after stering is staffed by the engineers. There is just a radio call away from manually stering the ship. Why wasn't the steering machine room wasn't staffed?.
You do realize that this isn't a Hollywood movie right? There is no "manual steering" also it doesn't matter how much you turn the rudder when the screw isn't turning you have no steering
I am guessing this may lead many cities to rethink their shipping routes and procedures around such sensitive structures. It's one thing to be moored, or hit a pier, or something minor like that; hitting a bridge and destroying it, while killing several people and plugging all shipping lanes to a port in the process is a completely different ballgame. Imagine if this had happened during rush hour?
The bridge should of had collision Islands to stop ships getting to close to the support columns of the bridge,
that bridge was disaster waiting to happen
Hello There. Wonderful story. We learned by watching it that having a visual representation is a powerful way of educating the public on the perspective of the crew. Now imagine how more powerful that simulation could be if it included audio (ambient noises) to engage another sense (ears). Also, lessons from aroma therapy, helping engage another sense, we suspect would enhance the eXperiencE. Love this perspective so much. Gave us many ideas. 😇🥰
“Anxiety provoking” “black out” “drop the anchor” “accident”
How can go full astern when you loose power?
That was once they got power back.
That’s kinda questions’ answers I know-with 8 knots even the engine got back(answers) it’s too difficult to stop the ship in less than half miles with speed over 7knots
Looking at all the footage available, it looks like ship had power and steered directly into bridge support 🤔
@@user-fz8fy4zl1c @WhatsGoingOnWithShipping has a good breakdown. They were IN the shipping lane when they lost power, then WITHOUT power, they started drifting, as they had no control over the rudder. By the time they got power back, it was too late to avoid the collision. krplus.net/bidio/fpdxqWaTg32vhIIsi=LqPKQxaHiQJ9QBRs&t=89
@@BlackEpyon Which clearly they never did.
No one has mentioned the hired,port, tugboats. Where were they?
Tugboats haven't been mandatory or even used for decades in Baltimore as the exit from the port has been deemed ti be quite uncomplicated for decades.
@@justarandomnobody7451only in a democratic world we know it was on purpose
@@justarandomnobody7451< just talking out arse.. McAllister ran a pair of Tugs unmoored and oriented the ship out towards the bridge/ exited the port.. Baltimore is a mess.. defunded a ton of things related to the harbor (water rescue dive teams, harbor authorities, contracted tug/towing, etc) along with the insanity of defunding the police in 2020.
You are dumb@@cyndybutler7330
@@cyndybutler7330 so who did this purposely then? The ship pilot? Who happens to be a locally trained n employed professional hired by the Port. Or lemme guess, the deep state.....
Cmon candy, accidents happen. Stop jumping at shadows!
What would cause a complete black out power loss like that in a ship? There are backups of everything and auxiliary units to support the backups
That ship never should have left port in the first place - they knew that ship was having electrical issues.
Why no power backup ?
Who design the ship ?
There are several Independent engines on these ships for different function, My question in my ignorance is is there not back up engines for electrical power ?
The redundantcy ships have tell me that this was all a lie and it was intentional
@@gregorysoderlund8025You’re slow. This ship has had similar problems last year. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s an accident.
They have a backup generator that that is why they're checking the fuel the backup generator will not start either
They have a backup generator that that is why they're checking the fuel the backup generator will not start either
They have backup power for alarms suring a full black out, but not steering??
I completely agree with captain That ship situation Time & distance not enough to stop vessels plus power failure
It happened for reasons .
That's 190 million pounds of ship. You can't stop on a dime.
It causes confusion when they keep referring to that area of the ship as "the bridge".
Because it's called the bridge on any ship on this planet.
@@dorientjewoller113 And it has been called the bridge for the duration of modern history. Its their own fault for being uneducated, I guess. Although this should be common knowledge for anyone over the age of 12.
that's just what the world has called that area for a long time now, unfortunate coincidence in topics in this scenario, just gotta pay attention to context.... but tbf I'm really good at that mainly because i read a lot including Chinese light novels,its common to use the word "en" to mean several things from yes,to hm,to wait etc etc,and it's all based off the situation and context so im used to that.
@@Melior_Traiano to be fair they could call it the wheelhouse. Which might confuse some other than seafarers
That's what it's called, some Tug operators may call it the "Wheel House"!
never ceases to amaze me how fast the media is able to find so called 'experts' and simulators when something happens.. Almost like they have people lined up in queue to offer their opinion in case something happens.
Do ships not have any means of manual steering when a blackout occurs?
No unlike cars . When blackout occurs in ships . They do not have any control . Because then your are in control of nature . Most specific water currents .
Total blackout lives your engine off .
Ship engine helps to go forward . Even if water current is against your direction that time .
When ship has lost engine . It is mercy of water current . The flow of water at that time dictate direction of ship .
One thing to add you said manual . Ship or car or any vehicle do not work . If engine gets off in journey .
The problem in ship and plane is if you lost engine .
In plane you are going down .
In ship you are going with the water current . Until if you are lucky for anchoring in open water .
If you are unlucky . If there is something thing in your way . Like ship , bridge in this case . Then accident .
Because your ship speed at power loss blackout and water current during that time . Will have Total control . Nature control.
The pressure applied upon operators to move a load is intense whether its a boat, plane or truck. Ive hauled fuel. So, Investigators will uncover any bad decision to depart. I have had mechanical issues that I could live with to make a delivery. I got away with it though. Its a call thats made by operators everyday.
they need that GTA 5 graphic.
Based on a simulation I know what happened the damn reporter couldn't shut up so they can do their job.
As a former sailor: When the tug hooked up to the dahli. The morning lines are disconnected from the pier. The tug pulls out the ship
. Then the tug is disconnected from the ship then the ship is underway.
Common sense that the morning lines are disconnected from the pier, before it is tugged out.
@@dwightdabreo7478 You'd be surprised by how many ignore this . I've worked for some of them .
That is really creepy and hope those who died rest in eternal peace ☮️. I hope they didn’t suffer
Immigrants working on maintaining the bridge in the US!! Immigration needs to be controlled, but is an important part of the economy!
Can we chat and learn about ourselves hope you don't mind dear. If I may ask where are you from
@RayBrewster_123 I am from PA.
@@lindaSmith6588 Oh, great 👍. I see your u live in a nice place indeed. I've been to PA several times.i was in Harrisburg 2yrs ago for a visit to a friend 30th marriage anniversary celebration party 🎉🥂🍷🍾. I enjoyed every moment of my stay over there and had fun all through 😊.
@@lindaSmith6588 Am originally from Ottawa, Canada 🇨🇦. Born and raised but moved to the state after living there for a while. I moved to Fort worth, Texas ~USA. If I may ask have you been to the state before?
@@RayBrewster_123 Ottawa? OMFG i am so ashamed of you. such a filthy city. very lgbt friendly thoxx
Titanic all over again. Find out how long the pilot waited to contact authorities!!! MURDER!
Please!!! They called May day and SAVED LIVES!
I'm sure murder was on all their minds.
It's an old, very long bridge.
They was my question too!
Just 2 minutes before crash they had a black out
or induced a black out to save them?
I was very sympathetic to the crew and captain until I saw hear what he had to say.
@@Garga0 Makes you wonder Mmm
@@marylyn3081 No they didn't... they called a few second before impact.. vehicles can still be seen driving across up until about 30 seconds before impact...
That boat was like -KOBE! 😂
Your headline is wrong it should read “Simulator shows what CIA agents may have experienced before bridge crash”
Never mind the ship, where were the sacrificial concrete stantons that should have been there in the water 1/2 mile before the bridge to guide the hull of the ship away from the bridge supports. Never think a ship won’t hit your bridge, think the opposite, plan and build accordingly. Lack of safety investment is now costing America dearly in both lives and dollars 😮🇬🇧💙💙💙💙💙💙💙🙏🇬🇧🌈
That rainbow is gay. Just FYI. 😂
The ship had multiple power outages, therefore drive loss, all within smaller distances than 1/2 mile of the bridge that make those pointless. Good thing you came in here with your unrelated pride emoji to save the day 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Better question is why does a bridge built in the 1930s have protecting pier fenders that prevented a similar disaster (Cosco Busan) and a 1970s bridge not have the fenders?
IT'S AMAZING, the lengths that @CNN will go to in order to make up things to talk about, in the absence of ACTUAL FACTS.
I passed out there just 1 weeks ago night time before that happened . Sending love and prayers for those who lost their lives 🙏🙏
Omg this literally happened in 1982 in st Pete Florida and to ignore that is beyond ignorance to the people who died in 1982
There no one starting clean up yet? This administration my god.
Yeah Sherlock, they were working on recovery. Ghoul.
CMDR is correct.. they have to hire contractors now and finish recovery first ..(since Baltimore Democrats defunded the police, harbor authorities and dive rescue team units, back in 2020)
You do understand the logistics involved here, besides accounting for the deceased and where they were at the time of impact and also where they were found (which in itself will tell a story if there's a civil trial). Structural integrity has to be determined on every sqaure foot of the disaster area (for saftey and for future possible litigation) Understand that there are many pieces being put together at this time and it'll take time to "clean" this up.
That bridge colasped like a Trump defense strategy.
Interesting to hear, I saw the Biden White House press conference where he mentioned that the Federal Government would flip the bill for litterally everything. If that's the case that would detail that money is no object and maybe the US Navy who's been called in will just back up the Brink's Truck and say "Boy's that's where the money goes and don't ask questions".@@Scarletohellno
Well, we know what happened, Pete filled us in. The bridge was racist and the ship was clearly the Civil Rights setting things straight. 😂
😂😂And probaby the 16k miles Biden drive over it with Xi Jinping - in his corvette filled with stolen classified documents, just simply wore out the structure.
What’s wrong with you ?
@@jeffcordova9633 whats wrong with liberals... thats just how they think.
Is it really possible to simulate a blackout from the control room?
Does bridge have dolphins?
Does 80% of the Biden/Democrat spending go to bridges in Ukraine and Gaza on this one too?
I stubbed my toe today. Damn Biden and the Democrats!
Please focus on Ukraine and Gaza first. We’re in this together. Joe Biden 2024. Keep America blue 💙
@@johnmesser3278wait wait wait.. YOU needed to use an English translation prompt to post a word and 2 abbreviations ? LOL
@@Scarletohellno Sorry your crack is kicking in.
What in fucks name are you referring to?
Disingenuous comment. 😅
Amazing explanation. Agree 100%. It was something unpleasant in the worst scenario a captain wanted to cope with BECAUSE of the ship’s speed and distance! Even though we need to take into account the WATER DEPH there when the ship drifted out of the Navigation channel, the shallow water affects the ship's maneuverability (SQUAT effect), etc but how we can control it if we have lost SHIPS PROPULSION under that scenario? Thx. BTW Am a captain 😢 looking actually for a job.
There may be a vacancy on the Dala ..... just sayin ;
@bigoldgrizzly I hope so, but to be employed there, it is a little bit difficult 😕 . Usually, the management there gives an opportunity to Indians, Philippines, Ucranian etc etc. Even am duly trained... thx anyway, for your good wishes.
Maybe it was the prop walk caused the stern to move port side, of course the bow would move to starboard side accordingly. While propeller was in full reverse (judging by the amount of engine smoke), the rudder was much less effective in steering the ship, despite the ship was having emergence/regular power minutes before the collision. Sounds like pilot's or operator's error when they were under great stress to regain directional control, they should have kept the ship going forward inside the navigation channel as it was instead of putting the ship in reversing.
They knew this boat had problems it was not a accident.
“They”? Could you elaborate?
@@happycanayjian1582 The crew for starters
McAllister Towing
Hope they can put s key bridge full model into the simulator instead of a sifferent bridge.
Where was the Tug boat?
Crucial
Pray for families🎉
Wow!!
Emotional accounts delay clearing of the area ?
Way ship was on right side close to bridge support,not-in center of canal.
Are the anchors separate from the electric?
Yes they can be released by hand from the crew
Multiple alarms going off simultaneously would make anyone tense, I don't know how they do it.