12 Strong B-52 Bombing Scene

Typical Tuesday in Afghanistan.

It's called Netiquette.

As goofy as it seems, I can assure you this is accurate. 😆

@@scrimshaw7470 I’ve heard of this stuff before. I believe it since we humans like to be assholes lol

epic trolling

i believe it

I guess we're going to forget about the Combat Controller that was actually there, but okay.

because 'Murica

Yeah thats what happens when you use a six fucking digit grid lol

@@ckriegz360 it was an 8 digit grid not 6 plus an 8 digit gets you within 10 meters of an objective especially for fire missions and if you don't have the exact coordinates for where you want something dropped it won't hit and this was very early on so I'm assuming they didn't have established grids of Afghanistan

We were sort of drunk, 12 of us playing golf. As the last group came up the 18th, 8 of us stood together around the hole. Not one of the four shots landed near us. Dam scary but we laughed so hard after each one hit.

Bro is that really by sun tzu quote there’s no way shoot them? Yeah right they had ak47’s in ancient china

@@Eduardo-by1mz they had crossbows and archers

@@Eduardo-by1mz Woosh

I think he meant "I'll never understand".

I think this era's BUFF used JDAMs so the plane could loiter and drop one bomb at at time--but of course, could the correct coordinates get given? THAT'S the question.

True fact...America lost the war in Vietnam. Lost to a band of backward peasants.

@@lordlucan3706 America won every battle. The war was lost at home in the White House who was directing the war from the basement. And the guys doing so were non military college idiots.

@@lordlucan3706 Do you honestly believe the US lost the war in Vietnam to a band of backward peasants dressed in black pajamas and straw sandals? Get yourself a decent history book. Those guys were backed and supported by the professional North Vietnamese Army which was abundantly supplied by Communist China and the Soviet Union. To believe that the US lost the war in Vietnam against some backward peasants would be the same as suggesting that the Soviet Union lost the war in Afghanistan against a bunch of turban-wearing mountain dwellers. Who do you think supplied those guys with Stinger MANPADS and other stuff to beat the Red Army?

@@tomb7942 The USA got played and hustled at very turn in Vietnam. Your soldiers were brave and gave all, your politicians sucked. Yet, at the end of the day you still lost to peasant's.

And also I doubt any movie board in the world would allow to be released.... Most people have no idea how devasting such a strike would be..

And I guess we expect munitions to look like drums of heating oil going off...

@@dlkramer88 Have you ever seen the after affects of a Daisy Cutter?

@@ZATennisFan Yes, cool videos - but not a C-130 in this case! And still not the Hollywood greasy-looking fuel oil explosions.

​@@ZATennisFanHeard the same about gun camera footage from Desert Storm. The claim was that if it aired on US TV, of Iraquis being chopped up by the copter guns, we would never get approval for being in another war. -Found it an off the wall claim to make at the time..

This really does look like an exceptionally dumb film.

Carpet bombing was beyond reason. Truly the MOAB spread out. Agree?

Amazing.

Yup!

im sure it depends on what ordanance their droping, im just a simple grunt so dont get mad if im wrong haha

I don't get it. Why did he move in closer? Couldn't he adjust from where he was? He had eyes on. And then he practically dropped it on his own position. Anyone?

Still nowhere near the amount of lead an Atlanta class CL or an Iowa class BB could drop to a poor target

@@Braindamagedpotato yeah an Iowa class also can’t fly 30000 feet in the air

@@DemetriusJamal-he1uy Yamato could tho

@@Braindamagedpotato mhm

@@DemetriusJamal-he1uy fun fact did you know that of the 10 aircraft the yamato shot down, 7 of them were from the magazine detonation. Making the yamato the least cost effective kamikaze

Debriefing various members of the Republican Guard after Desert Storm, they were asked what weapon they most feared. The B-52. But ... your position was never hit by B-52s. No, but I saw one that was.
This is the plane which invented the term "carpet bombing."

@@Meower68 Though the term "carpet bombing" was used over 80 years prior in the First and Second World Wars, you could say the B-52 perfected the art of it with five times less the amount of planes, still making heavy damage.

​@@Meower68right as in scorched earth. Not precision but persistent and lots of it.

You say it was nothing like seen in the movie. I agree. I try to explain to civilians the difference in real life and movies. Most people have watched so many movies and played war type video games that they get a warped idea of the actual power from them. I'll tell folks that a grenade is NOTHING like HALO or COD. That joker is a miniature bomb!! And getting shot isn't a joke. I work with a guy who's brother accidentally shot him while hunting as kids. He's an old man now. And sometimes out of nowhere he'll just buckle in pain. He got shot somewhere around his hip and the nerves are so messed up that to this day they still cause him pain.

Ain't wat Hell" FMJ

"Brrrrrrrrrttttt"

Was there bases close enough to launch A-10s? Early in the War in Afghanistan there wasn’t bases to launch A-10s. The fighters would have to be dragged over there with tankers. B-52s and B-1s can fly much further before needing to hit a tanker and once over the Afghani airspace they could stay there much longer. The navy could provide protection for the buffs and bones with tomcats and hornets, but they would have to hit a lot tankers.

@@Tustyshellback2010 not sure when the A 10 arrived in Afghanistan but I think that it was not early in the war. But what you say makes sense and I don’t remember if Pakistan allowed Us planes on their soil or not

Government stop providinding

I'm pretty sure the heavy bombers also have laser guided, this was using non-guided so the bombs missed, besides a viper or rino with a cas setup could have done the same thing

A10 was definitely worth the money invested. It has been operating for decades. The F-15 is a success as well.

@@ns7353 a10 is garbage. New generation aircraft shit on its little burp gun

@@NoSaysJo gotta agree

@@ns7353 the A-10 is only effective in an environment where the only AA the enemy has is an unguided rocket launcher.

They said it's not going to be retired until 2050

no ear pro no eye pro no high cut kevlars lol

@@TheInfantry98 as I recall the members of the ODA were wearing early "Plate Carriers" and "skater" Pro-Tek helmets.
Movies like this they don't wear helmets so the audience can identify characters/actors.
Blackhawk Down is a rare movie where the actors have appropriate haircuts, wear uniforms and helmets, even though it can be difficult to tell many characters apart.

Helmets don't stop bullets only shrapnel

Just playing devil’s advocate, but I swear I remember an interview with some special forces guy where this came up and his answer was basically “It’s weight that you could have allocated to carrying more vital supplies, and it can’t stop a bullet, so might as well leave it and bring some extra rations/batteries/medical supplies/magazines/etc.”
Granted, that was one guy, and he was special forces, not normal infantry. But if you’re regularly going to be out of contact with friendly supply lines and your job is more being a super-sneaky guy vs a standard grunt, I think it’s a fairly valid opinion.

@@darthsidious8926 it does stop bullet , depending on the helmet protection level , but being hit a by a bullet to the head and survived would still leave you some facture

We Were Soldiers....well mostly correctly called.

then your characters dont have anything to do

Better get a JTAC to call it in then.

We were soldiers is the closest we will get. Sadly so many things innacurate. All these movies would have the people calling in CAS put on the JTAC black book for fucking up.

Right?! No map marker called out

Tunnel networks? For facks sakes do you still believe in that facking bullshit? Wake the fack up!

BS. That is where MOAB and penetrators come in. Rocks don't move a lot when hit with explosives.

Bombs do not level hills ...no they dont...they make holes i them...

I call bullshit.

Level everything ON the hill. Sure. Leave some craters too. But it isn't "leveling" a hill. Unless we're talking 10' tall hills here. Then maybe.

Tmw America is actually EA

@@bluedog843 more like Disney at this point

It would appear voting in the USA is unwelcomed by Trump

A limb at s time

Bloody EA.

It was done with unguided bombs besides... Not enough material on an A-10 to turn all those armored vehicles into dust too.

B 52 ក្នុងសង្គ្រាមវៀតណាមmig21បាញ់ធ្លាក់ម្ដង

No there would be nothing left

No rocks, trees, building or cactus

And will still Lose to Taliban, its look good in Movies, but Taliban are incharge now

The B-52 is capable of precision strikes but apparently it wasn’t using precision guided munitions here.

@@danielwalmsley1824 They used a six digit grid which is at best within 100m (which was clearly incorrect). Go back ten years it'd be a GBU with JDAM and good within 1 meter, leveling everything with GPS coordiantes. I know it's a movie but it hurts to watch, I miss band of brothers.

Horribly inaccurate. There are so many things wrong.... B52s aren't used to drop strikes, faster more responsive jets are. They don't drop dump bombs... this ain't WW2. We have bombs that can glide dozens of miles and hit a coordinate with a precision of a few feet of error. Also they're already very close to the enemies to get a good coordinate. Going closer was dumb, you either point right at a tank from 2 miles or 1.5... it's also a movie so we can't take it too seriously lol.

you mean WW1 soldiers moving forward on trenches while their artillery fire is moving with them?

@@xxmlgguyxx1167 in theory that would work though, it’s called a creeping barrage. You move with the artillery but it has to be precisely timed...

😂 I'm done ,

Fair enough man…they DO hate em

lol

Hi god, we meet again

*Their Outpost get bombed*
"See? i told you, you donkeys!" 😏

Johnny's War Stories Alright Btw your videos are good ain’t gonna lie

Lucky you got this one.

Understandable. Thank you

Movie name?

@@madhurjyabezbaruah5703 12 strong its on Netflix i think

This is not his war content this is a movie don’t get it mixed up

that would level a fucking city

My guess is that Apaches and A-10s were not available either one could have done the job

I thought in the first year of fighting the Taliban still had control of a national "army" (such as it was) --they were still trying to mop up the Northern Alliance, so they had all the old regime's tanks, APC, artillery etc. Being it was mostly Soviet era equipment the gear was easy to use and easy to maintain--the AK principle. As I understood it, there was something like 50 or 60 thousand troops of varying quality (AND I even heard there were tens of thousands of Pakistanis in A'Stan too), and they had no reason to hide or worry about what the Northern Alliance could throw at them.
I'm sure after a few encounters with the B52s, those who survived quickly altered their strategy.

10 2,000 pound GPS's would have decimated the area. Game Over

That depends on how much munitions were released per run. Too early in the war for A-10s.

They were dropping enough ordinance to take them out not erase them from existence. Didn’t wanna waste the whole payload on one target.

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Too bad it was just a bad CGI model.

@@perriwenplays9215 They got the sound pretty accurate, though.

Maybe because its just crap holywood fiction

You gotta watch more film.

I highly suggest you watch the 1990 HBO's movie "By Dawn's Early Light".

The old Buff can actually PRECISION DROP from 50,000 feet and those bombs would be in a chain with a little variance left to right, NOT scattered from hell to breakfast like they show here.

I had a relative in Vietnam in a small plane flying low jamming radio and they saw a Palm Tree appear in the air in front of them. Had turned the combat news off on the radio and not realised they were flying under a B-52 run and they moved out of there very quickly.

@@MrFarmountain He would have been briefed about a -52 mission. Those were not spur-of-the-moment things. That's what happens when you miss staff meetings, lol.

Not too sure - he was on an Australian mission - they were supposed to keep that particular radio channel on so that they knew what was happening in their area. Someone got sick of it and switched to something else. I think they didn't miss that briefing again haha.

@@MrFarmountain Hmmmm. I was USAF for 32 years and flew the F-15E for 18 of those years. It would be very unusual for pilots to fly in actual war zones without checking for current missions before taking off. Crew chiefs would definitely listen and very subtly 'brief' their pilot about combat conditions. Not saying this didn't happen, mind you, just saying that it would be highly unusual......but then again, Aussie. That says it all. 🙂

the scariest thing you can see in the sky.

Well considering this movie took place right after 9/11 lol

They don't have laser designators

@@thenasiudk1337 so? You don’t need them because they aren’t used laser guided bombs.

@@thenasiudk1337 in the book, the situation this scene is depicting, they did have a Laser Designator. The Afghan leader had strict instructions to keep the USA ODA personnel out of small arms range. Initially he kept them beyond effective range of their Laser Designator too.
The coalition of Afghan leaders was concerned about the USA being casualty adverse (of US personnel). The Afghans wanted US weapons, equipment, and $$$$$ More than killing lots of Taliban (expecting a decades long conflict; they had been fighting since 1989 against the Taliban).
The B52 was dropping JDAMs, one at a time.
The first JDAM missed by about 500 meters. The ODA wasn't happy. The Afghan leader and his men, knowing the bomb came from the USA, figured getting it in the correct valley was practically a Miracle!
Tangible Proof the USA was in fact supporting the ODA with Firepower.
Amazingly, the Taliban came out to inspect the Bomb Crater. They called back on the Radio, they Refused to believe it was a bomb that came from a Plane. Taliban thought it was a Trick, that the Northern Alliance (Afghans supporting USA) had buried explosives the night before as deception that the USA would send bombers or missiles...
The Second JDAM blew up more than 100 and the Taliban retreated to a town more than 50km away.
2 bombs and the enemy Fleeing was deemed Unbelievable, so this, and the following scenes were supposed to be "more believable"...

@Devyan Utsav Operational Detachment Aka a Green Beret A team

They must have been looking down the wrong bit

I noticed that too

Well I believe every trained soldier will do that, it's a basic knowledge

Attention to detail or the guy actually had muzzle discipline. Either way, a POB is required.

@@thenasiudk1337 for the military yes, but not Hollywood so it’s nice to see movies get little things like that right

@@MellowGrunt10 More than likely the casting call wanted veterans. When the "army" is all actors, it always looks so cringe and fake.

They didn't get precise coordinates, they didn't perform carpet bomb, they get swiping bomb, that they hope that 1 or 2 will hit the target.
Carpet bomb is all in one bombing. Every living thing would turn into dust.

That was not a carpet bombing. Maybe that was a carpet bombing ordered from WISH.......

You f'ed up 13 times? 😂🤣😅😆😁😄😃😀 just kidding

Lmao if they had any arty in range, it would have been game fucking over bro lol. Fire for effect!

This whole movie was pretty cringe tbh

@@simonsimon8572 Nah she is a 13 year old female in the Army, get it right smh.

@@osamabinladen824 lol what?

I get it.

I think I know the one!

That really happened. That was military technology back then.

is he a kankaroo jocky?

What happened?
Your force could not beat Taliban?

@@mist0 well, in our defense we don't have attack helicopters, some of the best tanks, bombers and other things that you Americans got

@@spectrumboy6103 true Americans still can’t fight against a dedicated enemy only good at bombing countries with no Air Force and air defense

One pass would have done it same with an Apache

You mean hang a big guy out the side of a helo after he ate 10lbs of beans
? gas them to their Graves FAAAARTTTT

I'm still confused how moving closer made them call coordinates better.....other than making a movie, isnt it just a game of battleship. Miss until you hit

@@griznatle because in real life these green berets weren’t trained properly on air strikes is what I heard. They had to have someone attached to their group from too many missed air strikes. Just what I read.

They spread bombs all over the valley and then we see in binoculars that one bomb landed like 100m away. With that level of precision, just eyeball it

He's also good in Shooter.

Did your hear "Fortunate Son " playing in backround....very overused in Nam soundtrack.

JDAMs.

Around 100 years in service, and still giving taliban a bad day, absolutely incredible.

The movie name was 12 Strong, so no 12 bombers for you

"Get a new map" I did not know this was a movie clip from Tommy Boy?

Diego Garcia, Guam is around an 11 hour flight from Bagram.

Source?

@@diesirae8954 i mean you could easily search it up its a widely known fact that the US dropped more bombs in southeast asia than all the allies combined in WW2 General Lemay of the USAF literally said "were gonna bomb them back to the stone age"

One thing about America. We can bomb the hell out of anyone. Go BUFF!

@@diesirae8954 He doesn't need to source anything for you. It is one of the most well known facts of the Vietnam War

Most of that tonnage is 'mud moving'. Block 'The Trail' (the one in Laos that didn't exist) or bomb it to hit the supply depots, base camps and the like=-=the rest was hopefully to tear up the mud of the trail to keep supplies from moving. NVA Engineers bulldozed and shoveled the mud and dirt and craters out of the way so the supply traffic could move again--airforce comes back: rinse and repeat, repeatedly for years.

This is actually false😌

@@Jordan_Incognito , I worked on both the BUFF and the BONE. The BONE can drop more ordnance. The B-52D models (Big Belly) had the largest payload of the BUFF variants. The B-52Hs have a smaller bomb bay. The external stores pylons on the BUFF are included in the calculation.

@@jeffking8890 I work on them currently. They have mods added to install more in them. The space between the d models and the h models never changed

@@jeffking8890 also, depends on what munitions we loading as well

@@Jordan_Incognito at what Base are you a Loader, 2W1X1? BUFFs still use the MAU-12s. Right? Just do an internet search on B-52D & “Big Belly” modification. The bomb bay was smaller on the Gs & Hs than the D-Model. The F-Model was different as well. The BONE has better mods and can lift more tonnage!

The most American comment I’ve ever seen

The navy seals burned like dogs in that chinook brought smile to me and those cia agents taken down too oh I made feast in celebration to the American general Taliban took out

@@firasajoury7813 Based

Still doesnt change the fact you pigs lost and Taliban back in power, enjoy the inflation

I know right.... the war improved nothing....

@@joshuateoh8966 they built 2000 hospitals (no exaggeration), trained thousands of midwives, increased the average life span from 46 to 62, that's something. The US gave the Afghani's their chance, they blew it. Back to 600 AD for them.

@@theccpisaparasite8813 You think it all ends here? It is a full circle, the terrorists will attack your country again.

@@thegoat5216 then we'll be back. That's how it started last time, remember? Keep living till you're 46, with no education, with no, doctors, no nurses, pissed off women, you were given your chance. You blew it.

@@theccpisaparasite8813 Those are US charity groups not the US government. Sure they sponsored and provided support but how many were purely genuine? The US left a bigger mark by completely destabilising the middle eastern region. They fought wars based on political and religious culture that the US had ZERO experience in. They just assumed that their own way would help improve the land (and the US economy) and that resulted in multiple backstabs in people they initially supported.

That would have worked if the C-130 dropped a Daisy cutter bomb

The strato part comes from the stratosphere which is a layer of the Earth’s sky, and since the plane looks a hell lot like the B-29 super fortress they added fortress, or that’s what I think anyways.

@@jamessfakecommercials.4573 fortress is just a name given to any major US bomber the B-17 FlyingFortress, B-29 SuperFortress and B-52 Stratofortress

@@blackopscw7913 Oh ok.

@@jamessfakecommercials.4573 Your guess with Strato was correct tho

@@jamessfakecommercials.4573 not quite, the plane was originally designed to be a high altitude bomber, then U2 happened so they made it low altitude

Taliban won... America loose

@@osamarehman3120 Pakistan proxies won, Common Afghan lost.

@@psuyog pathetic cope

@@psuyog let me guess you believe America won in Vietnam too

@@iraholden3606 I know US funded Taliban. Even the current Talibani govt is formed by blessings of USA. What I believe is common Afghan is at a loss & that idiot Pakistan is doing it for dollars & short term interest

No, when u fire an rpg it has more of a spray sound

Standing up and barely aiming and having a near miss from what looks like 100m+ is NOT realistic I would say!

@@xen70 I get what you mean but the commenter asked if the rpg SOUND was realistic