I spent a day with KLEPTOMANIACS
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- ๊ฒ์์ผ 2021. 09. 09.
- I spent a day with KLEPTOMANIACS to learn the truth about this highly misunderstood disorder.
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I never knew what a kleptomaniac even was. Always thought ALL people who steal are selfish bastards. The girl's right if we don't talk about it, they will never get help and things won't ever change. Mad respect for these people for coming to this interview and Anthony being respectful as always.
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even people who steal who aren't kleptomaniacs may not be selfish bastards. if someone steals a little something to survive from someone who has millions of dollars, they aren't being selfish
@@chloehello3841 stealing is still selfish. it is more justifiable in those cases. i hope they get help this is a very good enlightening video about this problem.
@@chloehello3841 oh yeah forgot about those types. Agreed
@@Mayra9148 the help they would need would be financial, not mental (if you're talking about the people I mentioned instead of kleptomaniacs). they are surviving . that's all they're doing. and they're not hurting anybody, because the hypothetical millionaire they steal from has enough money to survive happily too. at least, in my opinion, it makes sense
The fact that they came up on camera and spoke out about a disorder that's so discriminated against and stigmatized is crazy amazing.
@@kermitkrab5637 shit is getting a lil too soft, next time they're gonna say serial killers are discriminated against
@@kermitkrab5637 Why do you think they speak about it?
If nobody speaks how can someone do something about a serious issue. It helps that some come forth so that others can learn and not hide inside of themselves.
Everything for clout lol
@@lillyvalak9254 he's clearing up disorders, and helping people be less discriminated against! What's wrong with that, huh?
@@lillyvalak9254 for clout ??? he could make a video talking about anything and his viewers would watch because he has built an audience...
I saw someone once make a post online that simply said: "If you see someone stealing food - no you didn't"
And I just, never thought of it that way. I always though stealing = bad. But if someone cannot afford food? Yeah, I would not turn that in.
as someone who was homeless for years and needed to steal food to survive, thank you for this
Agreed, I feel almost a kinship whenever I see people in situations like that. It feels good that it's me that caught them because I know there are plenty of others that would turn them in in a heartbeat. Makes me so upset when people snitch on others for things like that it's like they don't have any empathy at all
I remember my mom talking to me about a situation like that once. She told me โI saw a very disheveled looking man steal food at the grocery store, but I didnโt turn him in to employees. Do you think I did the right thing?โ She asked me because she was truly wondering, since she felt bad for the man that he was so hungry he had to steal, but she also wanted to abide by the law. I always say, people should never feel bad for doing things they NEED for survival. Stealing? Bad. Stealing because you cannot afford essentials to survive? Not good, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
I have kleptomania ..
I steal mostly to feed my 4 kids.
I have gone into my local grocery store,FILLED up the cart and walked out. Many times..
No excuse because I still get an incredible rush from it. And because I steal for my kids I get a sense of peace knowing they get to eat good food..and more food than I can afford ๐
Thank you for the insightful video,Anthony,and your guests.
I have a lot to think on..I canโt keep this up.. or Iโll be in jail,alongside the kids father ๐
I once saw someone make a post saying "When I was a cashier at a supermarket, I would always "forget" to scan 1 pack of diapers or baby formula or sanitary products."
I think that's really wholesome and kind.
Hey, at 0:28 - you canโt get a serotonin rush, you can get a dopamine rush. Theyโre both neurotransmitters, but:
Serotonin -- long-term happiness
Dopamine -- pleasure, addictions
Still, this video was super interesting, and Iโm glad that all of the guests seem to be overcoming their impulses, or at least feeling better than before
thank you for this!
@@elswayr4525 I agree, I oversimplified it. But still, you canโt get a โserotonin rushโ like you would with dopamine
I like this point, but this is not how neurotransmitters (NT) work. A higher concentration of NTs does not mean a greater effect- it is really about how many receptors are available and many other factors relating to the receptors. Things like the receptor location, concentrations, and type (e.g., ligand gated receptors, GPCRs, ion channel linked receptors) play a large role in determining the effect of the neurotransmitter.
When a neurotransmitter, such as dopamine, binds to a receptor, a cascade of events unfold, allowing cell-to-cell communication and eventually, producing an effect (behavioral, physical, psychological, etc.) within the human body. There are sometimes thousands of steps before this effect occurs, and the neurotransmitter type is just one step in this long recipe.
P.S.
I hope this helped explain the science of NTs a bit better:) I studied Neuroscience in college and miss it a ton. The field of Neuroscience is often misunderstood bc neuro articles in popular press overgeneralize findings and display a lack of understanding of the research. It is a new field, so I recommend NCBI or research gate for up to date Neuroscience. The field is constantly changing
Ive only ever seen kleptomania in media conveyed as a funny, non serious problem. I had no idea it was so devastating and addictive.
Absolutely. The first place I learned the word was from The Sims 3 looking at the traits. It also in the Sims 4.
I actually have cousins who used to steal quite alot and when i visited them, they oortrayed that on me, I then for a few months developed the urge of actually stealing incase anything happened, so many useless things. Iv'e actually never talked about it but ive gotten over it because of how wrong it is and that i have now realised what happened.
Being someone who suffers from this, it's truly heartbreaking when you tell people that you are klepto and they don't believe you or laugh at you. Then, when they see you doing it or talking about it, they treat you like a criminal :/
@@grimmlin-endewyn6290 yeah.. Thats why i never told anyone about it other than my very close friends, i even got to the point where my friend tried to join me with the stealing. I wish you luck in your recovery honestly
@@primaryencephalitis3416 ranboo profile picture :D
Anthony is more respectful than every news interviewer in the world combined
We love to see it
@Bruh Bruh First of all gay isn't an insult stop using it as one, second of all no you don't, so please kindly shut up
@Bruh Bruh gay isnt an insult
@Bruh Bruh way to scream Iโm an ignorant loser at the top of your lungs
Word he is
How horrible and isolating! To hear Amber say it would be less stigmatizing to be a drug addict, then to realize she is 100% right broke my heart for her. I am so so glad that Anthony has created this place where people with often very underexposed issues can freely talk and not feel anything but listened to and supported and it is so beautiful.
Update: Amber here! Iโve been clean for stealing since I did the interview! All the support and love really helped me with this process. Canโt thank Anthony and his team enough!!
A former queen of Denmark had this condition and would have a servant follow her around and pay for the stuff she stole. But she was a truly loved queen by the people
I went down a rabbit hole trying to find what you were talking about, but thereโs no information about any queen of Denmark being a kleptomaniac. Do you still happen to have that information on-hand?
@@LeoparDusk I think they made that up..? I didn't find any info
@@eliteitself3235 Yeah, probably :/
Hey do you know her name or what to search?
@@i_kill_cereal Iโm danish so searched up the kleptomaniac queen and that is some of what showed up in my comment below. Some say itโs hearsay, some say itโs another queen. Who knows? I just heard that said when I was a child
I need a huge "Where Are They Now" episode where you just chat with some of the most memorable ones from the past episodes.
YES OMG WE NEED THIS
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YES PLS
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Yes, please!
The bad thing about disorders is that some people find them so bizarre that they think it isn't real, and it's truly infuriating for everyone in the situation
For some people thereโs still the idea that anything to do with mental health is just โall in your headโ meaning you can just get over it. They donโt understand that thereโs problems that arise from trauma, chemical imbalances, genetics, injuries that can all fundamentally impede your brain function. Yeah itโs in your head but that doesnโt mean itโs not real and serious.
How do you explain kleptomaniac?
I havenโt watched the whole video yet, but thatโs how Iโm feeling about this one tbh. I understand they have this โdesireโ (lack of a better term) to steal something, but to be โforcedโ to just take something? It doesnโt seem like a tick that you literally couldnโt control if you wanted to. I just donโt understand how you canโt decide not to act on it I guess. Idk. Iโll finish the video. Maybe they explain it
@@yo5233 did you even watch the video my guy ๐คจ?
@@olaedookorie no i didn't
Awww, Amber should be so proud of herself for doing this. It's amazing that she has come far enough to be able to talk about it on such a big platform and know that her family will find out. That takes real courage.
They were all amazing, brave, introspective souls. But, I specifically came to the comments looking for Amber mentions. She was so funny, kind, and able to self-disclose.
@@thisisforvids but sadly she is a cap. went to school wit her. A WHOLE manipulator.
@@personalboi2241 really???
@@personalboi2241 I know her, if this is true, how old is she?
@@personalboi2241 Ironically enough, I think you are capping.
Thank you tremendously for the extended coverage at 12:10 of the video, showing Unsteal's website and how to repay for petty theft online! Excellent job listening and understanding kleptomania.
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Thank you for what you do to help people feel a little better! โค๏ธ
@@TheBestiesForLife1 appreciate your praise ๐
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This is a great idea. Best of luck!
I really like how respectful Anthony is.
Yeah same
Yeah, in every episode he treats the people he interviews with respect and he never says anything offensive
beautiful profile picture, i love it
@@sunnyangelzz lol
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Itโs nice to see older people being interviewed too. It shows that these issues are not because our generation is weaker/worse/etc. (i.e: elders saying things like depression didnโt exist back in their day, how PTSD wasnโt a thing, so on)
these things were always here, it's just that 1) people had less access to learning about/understanding things than we do, and 2) maybe people were under even MORE pressure to just shut up about it
Good point!
Edd VCR, This is really random,but I love the colors and design in your little profile picture ๐ท:)
@@creativeconfusion288 Oh thank you so much!
People say that ...that's sad and ridiculous
I know that it's an extremely difficult and scary topic, but I'd to see an episode about self harm. It's something that's made fun of and gawked at by people of all ages and I just wish that there was some understanding as to why people do it. Seeing someone with a big audience talk about it in a respectful manner would be so helpful
I didnโt even know this existed, I would always walk around stores and see things (missing earrings) and would always say โwhy do people stealโ and I would get angry but after watch this video I now understand a little more that some people have this and they canโt really control it. This educated me and made me less ignorant, THANK YOU!
Yea itโs a real mental disorder itโs in the DSM-V which psychologists use to diagnose people. Iโm glad this video helped educate you. :)
@@kiona1816 not for everyone. Kleptomania is only thought to account for 5% of shoplifting.
@@brittanysaywood2436 Yes but mental illnesses are often severely undiagnosed in general so I'd take any such estimate with a grain of salt.
Oh. This isnโt common lol, most people who steal actually steal because they donโt wanna spend money lol. And no this does not count homeless people. Most people who steal, steal because they want to get stuff for free, say it with me
This has helped me understand my mother more than I ever needed. Here's to healing, thriving, and being better versions of ourselves daily
HELP!!! Everybody at my school cyberbullies me because they say me good good GOOD videos are extremely BAD!!! Please help me, dear eli
@@AxxLAfriku go cyberbully them back
@@cybergalacticnova LOL
Wishing your family all the best โค๏ธ make sure youโre there to support your Mum if possible
@@PureCloudBread Thank you, I will always support my mum as much as possible
Anthony should write a book called "I spent a day with Anthony Padilla"
Wait that actually sounds like a good book title for him! :D
Yessssss
totally would read that!!
hhaahaha perfect.
YESSSS! Thatโs the best autobiography name โค๏ธโ๐ฅ
i would love to see you do an episode about trichotillomania, i feel like as someone who has suffered with this for a majority of my life a video like this could help bring more awareness to it
I have that too! It isn't talked about all that much, so I was also thinking how cool it would be to see an Anthony video on it ^^
What. Does that mean?
@@Harxee Trichotillomania is also known as 'hair-pulling disorder.' Basically, it makes it so I keep pulling out my hair and can't stop V-V It's really annoying and can cause bald patches (from where the hair was pulled out), which is embarrassing and makes people feel ashamed
@@jazzebee so you get satisfaction of the pain or you just get sudden urges?
@@Harxee Hmm, not sure how to explain it. Both in a way. First I get a sudden urge to pull, and the feeling of pulling out the hair gives a moment of relief and satisfaction from that urge. I can try to resist, but the urge just continues and gets worse until it's too stressful to bear. Often I don't even realize I'm pulling, I do it without thinking. It's considered similar to OCD
Huge props to everyone who did this interview, showing their name and face, that must have been so incredibly hard to do
Everyone was so so honest and Anthony respectful as ever
I really appreciated Anthony talking about how he would 'forget' to pay for small things like soda when shopping. He did it in a way where he showed understanding of some aspects of what those he's interviewing deal with, but without overshadowing them or making it seem like they aren't really struggling with their compulsion to steal
i've noticed him doing that in a few videos where he's had similar, not the same, experiences as his guests and i find it really cool because it's almost like further reassurance that nobody is alone in anything they're going through, even when there is a difference in experiences :)
Yup- self disclosure is a tool that helping professionals use, but it has to be done very thoughtfully with great care to ensure the professional doesn't overshadow.
I was shocked once I realized he was the guy from Smosh after watching a bunch of these videos. Never would of guessed heโd have one of the best interview shows on the internet
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this was really eye-opening, it seems like it's pretty much in the realm of OCD behaviour, and i'm genuinely glad you're helping to destigmatize things like this. :)
I actually have ADHD. That is a big factor due to having problems with impulse control.
@@neptunianbabe It's so cool to see you responding to comments Amber!
@@DidYounisMe I love engaging and talking with people about deeper and darker subjects. The world is so corrupt and we canโt heal and move on if we donโt talk about things. Also, can we just applaud Anthony for the thumbnail!?!? I look evil as hell!!!! LMAO
@@neptunianbabe completely agree. I didnโt realize I have ADHD until I was 26. Totally explained so much including my impulses!
yeah it can be very similar to OCD, or even a part of someone's OCD. im autistic and have "OCD- like tendencies" (fancy way to say i have some symptoms, but not quite enough for its own diagnosis), which manifests as ED and klepto behavior, from what ive noticed about myself. its all about control- controlling my food, controlling my finances... but not controlling those impulses, apparently ๐
for context, i related to basically everything tabitha said... we have the same species of brain worms i guess lol
I definitely feel this really heavily, I stay at home to shop more so I canโt take from stores. The connection to this and recourse hoarding and Anthonyโs story really hit home.
I hope you're alright dear. And that you may be able to find support as well. They said it already, it says nothing about who you are as a person, just that you have a condition in need of treatment. Your struggles are so, so
valid
Someone give this man a "WORLD'S BEST REPORTER" Award or sum shit. Not only does he approach delicate topics w/ pizazz... the level of compassion & respect his gives to his guest is nothing short of phenominal! ๐โฅ๏ธ๐ต๐ญ๐
AMEN TO TO THIS COMMENT!!!! ๐๐๐ ANTHONY really is an amazing reporter, what a kind & understanding person who focuses & exposes issues most people are afraid to talk about with such integrity ๐ Bravo ANTHONY PADDILLA Bravo!!! 1 of the best SHIT to watch on KRplus hands down!!
I love on how amber was so honest and vulnerable about her kleptomania
She is a great person
I understand it a lot more now.
Respect to the people who were interviewed, stay strong :)
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Yes
respect with caution that is.
I never knew how isolating kleptomania was. As someone who is neuro-divergent, I struggle with impulse control. I can only imagine how difficult recovery has been for you all and everyone who is working through that. Props for coming on and sharing your stories with us. I'm glad you're taking the steps to not only help you regain that control you want, but to heal through the circumstances that once gave those impulses power.
I also wanted to add, I'm proud of you Amber. Your honesty and genuineness really shined through, and I'm glad you felt safe enough to talk about this. I can only imagine how hard it was to open up like that. You did great, and I believe in you.
Thatโs actually really interesting about the eating disorder before kleptomania. Iโve had anorexia since I was 13 (Iโm 21) and I am not someone with kleptomania but a lot of people donโt understand eating disorders arenโt about food theyโre about control. So it makes sense that stealing is another form of control. Iโve had times where Iโve had huge impulses to steal when my eating is bad and I feel like Iโm trying to grip to any kind of control I can.
It's crazy how similar this sounds to OCD, I could relate to the feelings they talk about so much, even though I have a completely different disorder.
yes i thought so too!
in my opinion the kleptomania seems like how ocd compulsions work so it makes sense that they would feel/sound really similar
kleptomania can actually be a part of someone's OCD! they are VERY similar disorders, and they overlap a lot. a fair portion of kleptos have OCD. basically stealing is the obsession/complusion- if its your only one, youre a klepto. if you have other obsessions&compulsions on top of that, then youre a klepto with OCD lol
@@somedude172 oh yeah it's not surprising at all for klepto to be an OCD issue since like.. they literally work the same way its just an addiction and specific OCD at the same time
That's how I felt!
Honestly found it so fascinating that Kleptomania could be linked with eating disorders! It actually kinda makes sense
Absolutely! The brain going into survival mode and starting to make you hoard stuff makes so much sense.
@@n00n3ynight yeah I had an ED and developed klepto not long after (though I had tendencies since young). I have so much anxiety about running out of food or not having enough, that I felt such strong urges to take things (mostly food). Haven't taken anything in quite a while now (my guilt grew so strong and fear of getting caught), but the urges haven't gone. Neither has the strong anxiety of spending money or of running out of food.
I literally got caught taking things and I was 82 pound at 5โ8 and they just saw I stole like three things and it was all things that didnโt make sense even to me. Soup cubes, tea, wet wipes, they approached me because I was literally dissociating and wandering the store for nearly an hour even after I paid for the stuff I originally went in for. I had an eating disorder for a few years at that point starting at 17 years old, and just turned 20... I use to take small skincare items when I was younger because of acne insecurities, but yeah...
Anyway the people at the grocery store just let me go, security guard just looked at me with pity and that just upset me more somehow. I did look like a person in a crisis I suppose. I have depression, anxiety, body dysmorphia and ocd...so itโs fair to say my addictive personality regarding my food and my financial insecurities have manifested into me trying to regain control and calm my brain by taking things that I think would give me comfort for even even a short moment. Havenโt stolen in years, but Iโve also just become more depressed and agoraphobic since then so at least society canโt sneer at me for my other behaviours.
Lot of people with bulimia getvit because they dont have the money for binge eating
I used to live with one friend with kleptomania & she was literally the coolest kleptomaniac Iโve ever met. If you confronted her (nicely ofc) she would just simply give me my stuff back without any problems. Which is kinda rare & so so hard for most of them to do. Iโll never stop being proud of her
I was rly surprised to see tabitha here, I used to always listen to her podcasts. She rly helped me through a big part of my ed recovery. Hope you're doing better and thank you for sharing this!
You can't help but feel bad about their condition, but also feel bad about the people that got stolen from. It's a lose-lose situation.
hello, random dude. Why are your comments so popular, I see em everywhere
@@idiots_4_life816 Because he's just some guy without a mustache that's why
Ggs you beat me
Depends where they're stealing from. Small things from big and greedy corporations, not a big deal. A lot of them take in account that some of their stuff is getting stolen. But if they're stealing from families, friends, and small business- then ya its a lose-lose.
I don't feel bad for thieves
The temporary rush they feel is extremely similar to my personal struggle with alcoholism. It feels good in the moment and then you come down and think, why did I ever do that. But the guilt and self loathing is never enough to make you stop the next time it hits. I wish all those who struggle with kleptomania the absolute best. Pls know that there are ppl who will take the time to understand and support you!!
As someone who's struggled with both, you hit the nail on the head there
That is exactly how it feels youโre right.
Addiction in a nutshell right? Wish you well in your recovery โค๏ธโ๐ฉน
hope you get better
@@prapanthebachelorette6803 yup, every addictions have those adrenaline rush/pump feeling....
I am so glad you did this episode. I have begun worrying that my son is suffering from this disorder and hearing the guests speak about the reasons behind their disorder and the feelings that it can induce. The whys of the disorder have put much in perspective for me. I appreciate all three of them so much for being so open.
Anthony! Please do a "I spent a day with people with no inner monologue" I don't know what this condition is called, but it's extremely interesting, and more common than we think. I'd love to know how these peoples live's are.
the condition is named Aphantasia, lack of mental pictures and monologue.
@@flimsyenthusiasm5769 my friend and I have aphantasia but both have inner monologues (sadly).
If he spends a day with blind people, I would love to feature.
wait wot
@@owlslovepasta if you are questioning how they typed this, remember you're in 2021 where there is touchable holograms.
Yes, there are ways for blind people to communicate on the internet. Speech to text, braille keyboards, ect ๐
@@arcryves2630 + you can still be legally blind and manage to go by with the help of glasses!
Yeah, I use VoiceOver and dictation to write comments and manoeuver on my phone, KRplus and the Internet
@@arcryves2630 where do you find touchable holograms I'm just curious cuz I want to see
As a recovering klepto, this is awesome to see him talk to them while being so respectful. It's something that you just can't ignore that you need to steal something new to feel a rush. When security almost caught me, it was such a wakeup call to what could potentially happen to me.
yeah, My cousins stole alot, so i got sort of washed over into doing that and they pushed me into it. I developed the urge to take things incase anything happened. only 3 or 2 people in this world really know what happened. Iv'e stopped now because i realised what was happening. Hope u can relate lol
@@primaryencephalitis3416 I really can relate. The exact same thing happened to me with a friend. they got me into it, and I got so many new things for no money, that actually spending money felt stupid to me. This started a journey of stealing for other people even to feel important and that rush I felt when I brought the stuff home. Only for it to sit on my shelf and literally feel worthless to me. Thank you for sharing your experience. Ive been scared to even say a word about this part of my life to anyone before.
@@vannisworld I completely relate ive only told about 5..? people and opening up online completely anon or even as yourself really helps getting over it.
i'm attempting to recover and this made me so happy i feel so seen :)
@@oliviapassarella6842 :)
Tabitha has the most amazing book for eating disorder recovery It was like my bible during recovery and anyone I've recommended it to also loved it
Fun fact: author Jennifer Lynn Barnes has a kleptomaniac character in her "The Naturals" and she portrays her thieving compulsions in a way that personally got me to realize that there's definitely something more to it than just stealing and that it's an actual serious mental disorder, so in other words - very accurately.
Based on how they described it in the start of the video, it seems almost comparable to a self harm addiction, but it's mental harm in this case
yeah, practically any kind of addiction
Sounds stupid but my only exposure to Kleptomania is โThe Simsโ game franchise in which you can pick kleptomania as an in game character trait for your Sim. Picking this trait essentially always opens up the options to join the criminal career and become criminal mastermind. Listening to these peoples stories Iโm realising itโs a real issue these people struggle with. The portrayal in media is just not right
Me too, it is quite rare though, but it is sad.
that's what i think when i hear kleptomania too๐ญ but kinda accurate because you cant stop your sim if they need to steal
From what I remember in the third game, your Sim tend to steal on their own when they have the trait (provided you leave autonomy on) and I remember having one of mine just randomly stealing all sorts of junk because of it
Sims doesnโt really clarify because they arenโt adding more disorders like anxiety or ocd, but I appreciate you can apply it to any sim. And that opens autonomy for it but I can see how it can be encouraged to match with being a criminal. Luckily they can steal as simple as dirty plates at school which encourages the idea that itโs more about the high.
same
As a Kleptomaniac myself sometimes its not that deep, for me its just a compulsion, not a rush, or a thrill im seeking. I just feel like if i want it i should have it. In highschool i kept a journal of how much money would have been spent. When i started working it got worse, i worked at clothing stores i liked and would leave with atleast $100 worth of product eacb shift. And heres the thing, im a great sales person so i would often be given more hours because i brought the stores money, while simultaneously losing them just as much. When I became a mom I went back to bartending so i wouldn't be tempted to risk it. My bad habit now is if I go shopping with the baby in a stroller I put my groceries in the stroller basket. And if anyhing blends in when im paying... i just dont put it up to pay. Then i put the shopping bag on top. Its crazy to me that i still cant stop.
It's really not surprising, "Christina Kaos" with the kid ๐๐
@@peps1943 is that you trying to read me?? ๐๐. Anyways as far as โwith the kidโ goes I did actively try not to shop with him in a stroller for this reason.. and now that heโs older not at all so idk who you tryin to read. Someone doing the work? Try again
@@Ameria3289 reread what I wrote. The reasoning wasnโt that deep. But the urge is. What In my OP gives you any indication that I โgrew out of itโ I just do the work with my mental health team to keep me from acting on my impulses. I no longer work retail, I do all my shopping on Instacart and Amazon. Your post seems pretty judgemental to me but ima chalk that up to some resentment towards your cousin. Not me.
Do you also believe that serial killers no longer have the urge to murder after they been behind bars for a while?? I mean, if they arenโt actively doing it they must have โgrown out of itโ right??
Whereโd you go?? Dirty delete
They say that kids go through a "phase" of stealing, and I think I experienced that briefly in my childhood, and again as a young adult. It was all about the rush.
Iโm so glad your guests feel comfortable sharing in this space. I didnโt know that sort of safety was possible on the internet haha. Very proud of all the other commenters on this channel!
Yes very proud. Owning up to your negative mental health traits is a really hard thing to do
Amber's comment about the comments section helping her decision to get on here almost got me to tear up... o_o
I'm so proud being part of such community online
Would be interested to see how race intersects with this condition. I have a feeling if a black person had this disorder they wouldnt be given such grace or treatment.
TRUTH THOUGH
i would also wonder if they would be more likely to develop it, because of an actual inability to pay for food and stuff
Or if they would even be diagnosed
Kleptomania seems to only occur to higher income/ well provided people... like depression
@@garysalazar5279 ? anyone can be affected by depression...
I love how Anthony always sheds light on such taboo topics and really makes sure everyone he interviews feel like a human that struggles instead of a criminal
Thank you for continuing to tackle so many disorders and illnesses. We need dialogue about mental health and you contribute so much.
It's insane that Anthony doesn't realize how he was also responsible in shaping us like this through Smosh and a lot of us have been with him since the beginning. Much love
Smosh gang
The taquito sock helped me through some dark times
so true!!
On an earlier episode, I saw someone suggesting a Stockholm survivor episode, which sounds like such an interesting experience to hear about. You donโt really get to hear from people whoโve gone through that, and how it felt
Like the specific incident or so-called "Stockholm Syndrome"? the former would certainly be interesting, since the latter "syndrome" was basically invented as a way to cover up incompetence & to pathologies a survival mechanism (or the 'fawn/freeze' trauma responses common amongst victims of many things). it'd be interesting to hear how they feel about being basically blamed for their own trauma.
@@merchantarthurn I definitely agree! Hearing about the whole experience, and listening to how others treated them afterwards would probably be beneficial in helping to understand the people whoโve been through this, kinda like the kleptomaniac episode.
Such a rare and fascinating disorder.
@@Jackholiday1025 It's rare because it's not a real condition - it's pathologized victim blaming, usually stemming from a balls-up by an authority figure that would be too embarrassing to admit (so they blame the person who was kidnapped)
id suggest the documentary 'abducted in plain sight' on netflix if you haven't. content warning for sexual abuse of a child mentioned throughout but it's about a woman named Jan Broberg who experienced stockholm syndrome as a child for her neighbour who manipulated her and her family. it's very gut wrenching but a good watch if you're interested in the topic.
This makes so much more sense. When they were talking about the urges it made me think of self-harm with the control and everything. I didn't know that they felt what I did with their addiction. It puts their struggles into perspective.
Anthony has such a beautiful way of interviewing his guests . He's so open minded and willing to listen to them and he let's them share their stories the way they want to . Thank you Anthony for giving all your guests this platform and educating us x
I was really hoping there would be a POC being interviewed on this topic. When I read the comments and even the one lady telling her story of the cops letting her go it just got me to thinking. Access to mental health services, stereotypes and punitive and even deadly punishments for some and not others. I was once stopped in a store as a teen and asked to empty my pockets and it was a super humiliating experience. I was not stealing, fortunately it is not something I struggle with. Unbeknownst to me my friends( Asian POC) were stealing. No one asked them to empty their pockets though, just me. I had to explain to them later how they had put me in harms way. They were clueless kids. I have been accused of stealing a few times, the first time by my second grade teacher. I was innocent but she had her mind made up. The pain of that humiliation I can still feel. So I can only imagine the pain of having and impulse and addiction like this. I wish them all well and to be cured of such an awful impulse.
yes i thought about the same thing. it must be a whole different thing for poc
why were your asian poc friends not asked to empty their pockets?
@@parishrivastava6156 probably because we're stereotyped to be obedient and lowkey and proper
I agree, though due to barriers to care and stereotypes Iโm not sure whether as many POC would be diagnosed unfortunately:(
I have kleptomania and am a POC, but have only been caught a few times. However, I am a Mexican woman who is very ambiguous in appearance so I believe thatโs why I have had such little suspicion compared to others.
I'm gonna be honest, the only time I've heard anything about this is from Sims 3. This was very eye opening, to hear how uncontrollable it is, like OCD, and that it doesn't come from a place of greed or selfishness whatsoever.
oh wow, same. I thought it was just like... a medical term for stealing, didn't think it was real, in a way.
Yeah, it's actually really f'd up how it's just a "quirky" trait in the game (Sims 3 and 4). If anything it would be better to make the trait actually more realistic, so that the Sim takes stuff without us controlling them (can't remember how it is in the Sims 3 but in 4 the trait doesn't really mean much). That's dark but it would be way more accurate.
I think I first learnt about it from the Sims too actually.
@@Fallen4theFallen2 I don't know from personal experience but I think in the Sims 3 they stole anything in an area you choose.
While the Sims 4 isn't great, they do routinely steal from work without your "permission". They also get the tense Moodlet if they haven't stolen for a bit.
@@ZeroOhClock I hadn't experienced the work stealing, that is interesting. I totally forgot about the tense trait, so I guess that is something slightly realistic.
Careful some people do it out of greed and selfishness where I work we get steal a lot and trust me some are just garbage
I am so glad you guys did this episode. I have always suspected I had kleptomaniac, and this made me realize I have been dealing with this since I was a child. I have talked to professionals about it, but this helped me understand it on a personal level. Thank you so much for this.
I always lumped kleptomania with hoarding. Being a recovering drug addict I ABSOLUTELY understand that nervous rush and once that's starts it doesn't stop til you do it. Very informative Anthony. As always.
As an introverted person who doesnโt interact with others much it often means I have a more limited knowledge of others experiences and issues in the world. This series has really given me a safe space to educate myself on things that never crossed my mind and just be able to be more understanding and respectful to others!
AAGHHH as someone W a kind of misunderstood disorder idky but this makes me so happy๐ญ good on you tho frโค๏ธ
You should watch Other people's lives too, if you want more content that's similar to this series. :) I love learning about things like this and understand others more, and these are my two favorite series for that!
I think as an introvert you are often in a better position to observe others from afar and understand them from an objective point of view. If you're an extroverted person you might be more likely to get closely involved with others and have a personal reaction to their behavior instead of trying to understand them.
@@torbjornkallstrom2316 thatโs so true!
@@torbjornkallstrom2316 this not really. It's not about introverted or extravertedness. It's about if you're understanding or to emotional. Which I personally think is a 50/50 chance on if your introverted or not
It should be normalized to go back and return items stolen or give money for it for those who have guilt and want to fix it. If they return/pay for it they canโt get in trouble.
Your guests today were so brave! I'm so glad they spoke up! I learned a lot and found some healing in what they shared.
Well, if you read this Amber: good luck on keeping sober and all the best.
Stalking the comment section before I watch the actual video!!!! Thank you so much. Really means the world to me. ๐
@@neptunianbabe i really hope the video turned out the way you had hoped amber ๐
You know what Anthony....this channel definitely has one of the most supportive audiance...and that's because you are like that with the guests....like attracts like....thanks for being like that
Heโs modelling good behaviour in addition to attracting positive people
This disorder is super hard, because you want to be understanding and empathetic but then expensive things go missing, you start getting in trouble when you go out with them... its tricky. Expecially with people who dont want to change... and then if drugs are involved, it only makes things worst.... I'm so proud of these people for fighting to be their best selves! Keep up the great work and keep pushing forward! You rock!
I really enjoyed this set of interviews, i love to see how others percieve the world and the issues they have. Very brave of them to speak openly about it, i hope it helps them to find a a balance in life they are happy with.
kleptomania is very scary, and iโm glad you made this video so people can understand it.
He definitely knows how to keep the audience hooked!!
I agree, with my na. me
Yes
Almost 16 years of Anthony on KRplus now
@@ryanp4616 holy shit yeah his channels is older then me
Hey Exo - L ๐ค
I'd never heard of kleptomania before, but this definitely taught me a lot about it. Kudos to Anthony and of course all the people who participated in this!
Thank you to the guests for sharing their stories. It's nice to see that they're all at a point where they can reflect and laugh about their mistakes. The guilt is still there, I'm sure, but they're healing, and that's great. Kudos as always to Anthony, for being incredibly understanding and respectful.
Anthony should write a book on some of these experiences. I would read it, no doubt.
@Bruh Bruh what
@Bruh Bruh shut up. Stop spamming.
He didnโt go through these experiences I donโt think the book would be good.
@Bruh Bruh you wish
@Bruh Bruh that is the ugliest pfp I've ever seen
They really seem like they feel better talking about it with you. This is a really great thing your doing here on the channel
Yet again Anthony talking about a problem that no one represents properly. Thank you so much Anthony ๐
Iโm so proud for all 3 of them for coming on here and being so openly vulnerable about a very personal thing they have dealt with. I hope they know how much knowledge and difference they are bringing to SO many people by opening up about this ๐ I didnโt know kleptomania was an actual mental issue and I was very ignorant to the reality of it. Thank you for sharing your experience, itโs definitely helped me learn more about this ๐ฅฐ
I would love Anthony to do a video on hoarders. I'm really curious as to why people are so inclined to hoard so much "junk" in their house.
Cuz itโs not junk ๐ฅบ
@@koalacha6713 When you don't use and it grows moldy/rusty it's junk
I'm not a hoarder, but I have hoarding tendencies. For me it's a comfort things. I have an anxiety disorder and objects are comforting in a way. I am comfortable in a room full of stuff, while bare rooms are very stressfull to me. I also tend to give a lot of sentimental value to objecs, maybe because they were a gift, or because it reminds me of something nice that happened years ago. Throwing those things out is really hard, even if they are often useless. There is also an element of "what if I need it later?", that is also related to anxiety. Throwing anything away becomes incredibly stressfull and so any excuse is good to keep it, even when you know you'll probably never need it. For a lot of us, objects mean safety, and you don't want to throw safety away.
Hope this could give you a little bit of insight! ๐
@@lelou12 that's really interesting! My dad was a hoarder so I'm interested in the idea of hoarding. It does seem it gives this idea of comfort, and even this object pernamence of having this thing with you- to be there for you in a sense. I'm not a hoarder but my ADHD causes impulsive shopping sprees so I can somewhat relate lol
Well i'm not hoarder, i'm just too lazy too clean my old stuff as result of severe depressions.....
There's this hard feelings to let go of those unused stuff, especially old books i haven't read about, i love books honeslty.....
My Mother and my sister also has this hoarder tendencies, oh God, 3 rooms full of their clothes, even use living room for their unused clothes, it's a pain to clean up their clothes, they don't care if i told them those clothes are unuseful anymore....
Another day of Anthony being an amazingly respectful human being
I admire and respect anyone for being so open and honest about their disorder. The first time I learned about kelptomania was when I was a kid and my cousin, who was about 5 years old and much younger than me, started stealing our grandparents' mail and hiding it. My grandma is a counselor so she explained to me what it was and what was going on with him so thankfully I was educated and never had to break myself of any stigma surrounding it. I think it's important to keep taking about these things so people can understand better and so those who do need help feel capable of taking steps in the right direction.
All these people are amazing! I studied this in my undergrad courses. Thank you for educating us even further & being so brave by doing this video. Anthony, youโre content is amazing. Thank you & the team for all the hard work & being so understanding of the guests.
I genuinely had no idea that Kleptomania was a disorder, a huge thank you to Anthony and these guests for helping us learn about this, super eye-opening.
I actually have kleptomania and iโve been really struggling with it for so long
thank you for giving us a voice anthony
^^
omg Tabitha's channel is amazing she seriously helped me more than anyone else recover from anorexia. love you tabitha ๐
Tabitha is awesome. A lot of her videos really helped with my own eating disorder recovery. She has this no-nonsense matter of fact attitude that is just so refreshing. I really respect her and both of these other people for opening up like this.
I never knew this was a real disorder. I thought it was like just a derogatory way of talking about someone who steals. Iโm so appreciative of these people talking about their stories and for Anthony doing these interviews. I learned so much today and Iโm so proud of the one girl who did this as a healing exercise for herself. What a powerful thing to do. Yโall are wonderful people ๐
perfect timing along with the trend of hitting licks
wait what trend??
whats that?
@@nancydelerma6817 ppl steal stuff from their shcool
@@ConnorDrawss ppl steal stuff from their shcool
the way i was watching that guy pull a projector out of his backpack when i got this notificationโฆ..
Amber was such a joy to listen to. I truly hope the best for her. What strength she has to come out and talk about her struggles.
Thank you to all the people interviewed by Anthony! And thank you anthony for being such a respectful interviewer and person as a whole. This channel has brought sooo much more insight on many different topics and honestly brings us all together in an awesome way. Love you all!
It almost seems similar to OCD. Just compelled to do these things because the action of it brings relief.
I was thinking the same thing!
I really want to thank Tabitha for coming on and sharing her website. I had kleptomaniac tendencies in highschool (over a decade ago), but what's stayed with me throughout my life is my eating disorder, and Tabitha's explanation/research of it is really helping me understand roots of it in a way I never thought I would
thank you for inviting her and thank you to her for coming on.
same, I never connected my klepto tendencies with my past ED and OCD stuff, but it makes so much sense now. I feel like I can judge myself less for it now understanding this. I've internalized a lot of shame about it because others who knew about it reacted so harshly...they can't fathom stealing or wanting to steal and have such a stigma against people who do.
Iโm also just making this connectionโฆ I donโt have full-blown kleptomania, but I have the same restricting/binging issues with moneyโฆ an obsession with not spending anythingโฆ it makes sense now.
Thank you for sharing this information and these stories with us! I really wish all the best to everyone who suffers from this disorder.
The way it is explained here in comparison to drug addiction actually makes me understand it a lot better. Thank you for that!
Much love!
I haven't even watched this yet but I know how heard I've felt from other episodes of this series that I relate to, so I'm sure this is going to probably make me cry- thank you, Anthony
I respect Anthony so much for not being judgemental towards anyone, as someone with kleptomania I wish that everyone was this respectful about it because it genuinely impacts my life a lot and getting rid of the stigma surrounding it would help so many more people open up about it in real life
same, I am scared to mention it to anyone because of the judgement (even though I haven't stolen anything in several years now). I didn't realize how severely harsh people who can't fathom stealing judge those who do...the worst stereotypes and stigmas. When I revealed it, I thought it wasn't a big deal. But to others, their entire view of you will change.
We are supportive because you are so educational about your topics. Seeing your professionalism and non judgmental approach to all these issues you make videos over, helps us keep an open mind too.
Thank you for bringing on this topic! My brother and myself have these uncontrollable urges aswell.
But weโre pushing each other into a better ditection these days tho!
bc of this video i kinda realised that i had kleptomaniac tendencies when i was at my peak of ed problems
i literally stole something everytime i went to the store
it was really small but i still stole all of it for no reason and had really bad anxiety afterwards but kept on stealing
really glad that this is not a problem of mine anymore especially after i worked in a drugstore for a month and actually realised how harmful this problem could be
this video is really good and informative and it feels nice to not be shamed about this problem
anthony is a really good interviewer and i'm happy that get to watch his content and see the growth of the quality of the videos even though i was kinda salty at the start of his solo content bc of him leaving smosh (i feel really dumb about it now :') )
This is really interesting, thanks Anthony and everyone talking about it
I literally cried when she mentioned the comment section..
I know that feeling of how you are accused of something you cannot control.. you feel sorry but they just will not accept your apologies and being scrutinized...
It feels good when someone believe in you..
What an amazing video! I learned a lot from it. I loved the guests and the way they talked about this. So much love to them
After hearing these stories, it's clearly a stigma that people don't recognize the line between kleptomaniacs and thieves. One is a compulsion disorder and the other is the deliberate act of taking something you want or need without compensation. I think it's really important for people to learn about this like I did today.
When you hear them talk about it, it sounds like kleptomania is just an intersection of hoarding and thrill seeking: two things we understand more and treat with more compassion. Lots of love โค๏ธ
i love this episode.. been waiting for u to interview them ๐๐
He does such an amazing job with these interviews.
I remember going through a "klepto" phase as a kid. I'd steal from groceries, friends, and family. Little things or food. I stopped after i was caught wearing a friends mothers swarovski watch that I stole the week before. But i realized from this video that i haven't really stopped, I just now take things that are forgotten or unwanted. Things from lost and found that'll be thrown away, or things friends would've otherwise thrown away, or things left behind that the owner wouldn't go back for or miss. This is another thing to discuss in therapy ๐คฃ
I think your way more normal than you think! That's not an issue as long as you don't hurt anyone I think your fine! ( keep your therapy money ๐คฃ )
Idk man. I think actively stealing things that are clearly being looked after and beloved vs bringing something home thatโs been in the lost and found for several months is quite, quite different.
Why would you steal your friends belongings? If they would've thrown it away then you should just ask for it instead of disrespecting them.
@@priyag2161 did you not watch the vid? The urge to steal isnt exactly easy to stop. Not to mention i was very young. Also, at that time they were not things they would have thrown away, it was just whatever i felt the need to take.
@@onyxhydrangea I'm talking about right now. You literally said in your post "I just now take things that are unwanted or forgotten" and then go on to say u steal your friends belongings that you think they'd throw away. Idk why ur trying to justify your current stealing of your friends personal belongings when u can just ask for them. That's not ok and you're literally trying to say it is because you think they would've thrown it away anyways. Kinda messed up.