KF-21 fighter just unveiled. Not a baby F-22? (Newsflash video)

That is very cool to know

Given south korea's location I think that name is fitting

And I thought he was the one who said "one does not simply walk into mordor" ;)

The name got cooler with the background.

@@spartanx9293 ha hilarious

South Korea does already have the F-35 so they have stealth capable aircraft. The KF-21 is filling a similar role to the F-15 EX but with the potential to become stealthier.

Because stealth is a benefit, considering the massive expenditure into it, a pretty huge benefit

Stealth is only great for initial strike as it's weapon load is limited due to internal weapons bay. Therefore, it is best to go in tandem with other 4.5 gen fighters with external weapons bay or even use 5th gen fighters with external weapon pods.

@@looinrims eventually will be revised to internal weapon bay.

@Encik Ketam orang malay ya

@footballcoreano i thought Japan didn't export their military equipment?

@@kmk8168 used to, but now they allowed exports to other countries with the requirement of "helping to keep peace" which is quite ironic because its a weapon of war

Now the Dokdo Islands are more secure!

@@jonseilim4321 Oh no! Heaven forbid the Japanese take over our precious rock collection!! 😨😨😨

Can you both Japanese and koreans get along, there's a bigger threat next to you guys

@@fcuagency2163 China doesn't have any territorial disputes with Korea, only Japan does - plus it's disgusting history of "comfort women"

@@thekaiseroftheeast3895 That island defines the maritime boundary. There is speculation that the region around the island has many resources.

Then it is a great cheap fighter jet.

A non Chinese varient would be key.

American F-16 Replacement New Next-generation called F-36 Kingsnake model by 2023 then full operational 2030..

About the cost of F-15 Eagle. Maintenance cost will be far lower...

@@f-35lightningii6 F-36 incorporates NG tech, but by design it is *NOT* NG. it is a 4.5 gen fighter incorporating 5 and 6 gen tech for use alongside the F-15EX as the low-end option with NGAD and F-22

So this plane is supposed to have a 50% greater range than the f-16... if that is true then the US should consider ordering this plane... though that might actually mean the US order fighters would be built under license by a US company, depending on South Korea's Production capacity. I know people have been joking about how this plane is a baby raptor, but think about it for a second, from an intelligence and deception perspective, that is actually a major plus. These could be deployed and enemy intel might mistake them for the Raptor causing them to react differently. Plus if it performs as advertised it would fill the requirements the US is looking to fill with the hypothetical f-36 Kingsnake, and the US wouldn't need to spend money on development and it could get a more advanced fighter to replace the f-16.

@@20somthingdrifter11 Oh, but that's the logical choice... Obviously not good enough for the USA!!
If past aircraft development is anything to go by... They are most likely to spend more time and money on a completely new and untested airframe just to give Boeing another ten-thousand year contract...

Black Panther is the best tank in the world if you expect to fight in mountainous terrain which is what it was designed for

ah, has korea completed to produce the power pack,? It's still made in Germany.

@@honhon999 the only flaw of the almost flawless tank

Hey. I hope your country receives atleast 74

@@christopherthom9925 we don't have money, unfortunetely south korean president invite indonesia and asked indonesia not to left this project. I'am happy indonesia buy 48 rafale and 8 f 15ex not this korean jet, waste of money

@@dawudsajo4446 U r wrong, our president buy both, and also prabowo has approve it.

​@@dawudsajo4446 Korea's technological prowess is one of the world's top countries. Trust between countries is really important. South Korea is a country that values trust between countries. South Korea is a country that knows grace. It is a country that always pays back for the country that helped. To be honest, Indonesia disappointed Korea. Korea was disappointed because Indonesia did not keep the installment payment promise, But Korea marked the Indonesian flag on the KF-21. This is the Indonesia doesn't think it has no money. I just want Indonesia to keep its basic trust and promise with Korea. I think that trust is important in order to become partners with each other in the future.

@@lifestyle7272 you are talking to Indonesian traitor.

that's not a bad thing, especially if they can develop it to have the same capabilities.

Like baby Yoda

Oh it’s sooo cute I want to pinch its intakes.

Oh please the F22 thirty years old and riddled with problems like up to 60 hrs of maintenance for every1 hour in the air or the electronic from the 1980s. Or typhoon pilots saying and I quote " yesterday I had raptor salad for lunch". Isn't it time we tucked up the old girl with a hot water bottle and a nice cup of Bovril and moved on. STEP AWAY FROM THE F22 !

@@nickmazz9345 - Huh? The F-22's mishap rate is extremely low. The maintenance is not because the plane itself has any issues - it's because the stealth coating needs to be maintained. Also, fourth-gen fighters are generally training with the F-22 while it has drop tanks or radar reflectors attached, and in the case of the Typhoon, in combat the two are never going to be fighting against each other - in fact most of the work over the past decade has been to fuse the Raptor and Typhoon together using a unified datalink so they can compliment each other.

If China had done it, u would be "copy copy copy"

@@shinchan-F-urmom No China would steal it then make a bad copy of it.

@@blue_diamond_gem so your happy that SK make s copy, but get very angry when China does it. Shows Ur hypocrisy

@@shinchan-F-urmom There is no evidence any technology stolen, so your assertion falls flat. You defend and admit that China rips everything off, thanks for your honesty.

@@blue_diamond_gem better to say bitter truth that to lie "Iraq weapons of mass destruction"

You mean like stealing and copying other Nations technology and passing it on as there own.

@@anthonymullen6300 yeah as if steali- nah, 'ripping off' other nations was not the case of all the European countries.

@@anthonymullen6300 im glad they did, now Korea is one of the leading countries in the world. Korea used to have nothing after WWII and the Korean War. Also, it was possible to steal technologies and copying it back in the 90s but the patent laws has become more strict over the years.

@@anthonymullen6300 Not another ignorant comment. Another way that Lockheed makes money is by 'licensing' technology. It's is all above board, intellectual property rights are protected and Lockheed is rewarded handsomely. Also the US government would also such things to an adversary such as China or Russia (who engage in flagrant industrial eapionage). This is how alliances and global commerce works

@@anthonymullen6300 If you steal the tech and copy then can you develope it within 8 years? I dont think so and its impossible for you.

LoL. That's my first thought 😊 tf Koreans did for 7 billions what US didn't for 1 trillion 🤣🤣🤣 also they did it with US tech.

@@ivanilic9958 This jet is no match for even F-15 ex

@@andhkasur for bombing no but for air combat, will never know.

F-35 can carry air-to-ground missiles and is a proven stealth fighter with a low unit cost. Comparing these two is ridiculous

f35b IS a stealthy replacement for the harrier.

Good for Korea not for f35 .

Russian comrades also gave so many militarily support. Thanx u guys

its one of the best 4.5 gen fighter means only below stealth fighters, its multirole fighter, its cheap compared to its competitors such as rafale or F-16V. Very ideal for those who can't afford F-35 but still wants quality fighters.

@@yrkim3018 - The issue will be parts and supply chain. Finding spare parts for the F-16 is like finding spare parts for a Toyota Hilux or Ford F-150. They're all over, cheap, readily-available, anywhere. KAI will have to ensure its customers that it's ready to undertake a sustainment process.

@@VisibilityFoggy for South Korea, defense capability is the difference between existence and non-existence. Also, the kfx has the potential to be the greatest arms export for SK, and their military industrial complex has been pretty successful in the 2000s as it is, especially for such a small that only came out of obscurity (for most) very recently. Considering how much resources SK poured into this project, there isn’t a chance in hell that they will allow this program to be anything but a success.

KAI, Korea Aerospace Industries, the maker of KF 21 has announced that the price tag will be at most USD 70 million per KF21. As a matter of fact, KAI has signed the contract with the Korean government to sell 120 KF21's for KRW 10 trillion (10 trillion Korean Won). That calculates to KRW 83.3 billion per KF21. At the current exchange rate, that comes out to about USD 70 million per KF21. The KAI+Korean government contract of KRW 10 tillion for 120 KF21's is separate from the development cost contract of KRW 8 trillion, of which the Korean government bears 60%, KAI 20%, and the Indonesian government 20%.

@@yrkim3018 I honestly think it might be the ideal fighter for a country like Taiwan, they don’t have the budget but they need the aircraft. Since they’re also primarily concerned with just the defense of their island and surrounding waters they don’t need a large fighter with a long range. I wonder how many air to air missiles it can carry. Another important thing for her to be able to do his anti-ship work, I wonder if Taiwan has access to any air does surface anti-ship missiles that would fit well on the new fighter.

permanent Indonesia flag 0:40

You can see our Korea right away
Also you are wise.

Yea. It's delayed due to political reasons. The current government really obsessed in their goal of "erasing" the achievement of the previous government. Including this particular project with South Korea(and also other projects such as SSD submarine) hence their reluctantness in payment or even participation in general. Even military enthusiasts speculated that the government doing this kind of thing was to make the Korean Government to force(kick) them out from the project to avoid penalty.

@@ranvabclc the last government was also Jokowi tho?

@@ariq4209 please differentiate between previous and last.

@@ranvabclc ok relax, I get it now.

@@ranvabclc no its not like that. The main problem is that in the middle of the development the South Korean government chooses America as a provider of some of the crucial system and america doesn't want any transfer of technology to Indonesia. At same time what Indonesia wants is the technology. Thats why there's the delay. Its not about politics between jokowi and sby. Hope this clears things

how about west korea?

@@supersoupss It is west Korea. Well, geographically no but culturally it's been Americanized. Best Korea is still the North don't be fooled.

😃

True gay Korea, north is the best.

who would win? a plane or a nuke

@mandellorian no it won't take decades.

@mandellorian 한강의 기적 모르냐

your point is on spot.

No air force has established feasibility of having a stealth majority fleet due to fiscal limits not tech limitation.

I doubt the new plane will replace F16s in service. The F16 with ROK are being upgraded to Vipers. F15 and F16 might be planes that operate for over a hundred years...think about that standard for aero engineering.

@@murderofcrows2179 the american airforce has alot of budget compared to other countries including SK the US and maybe china is probably one of the only countries that could have a stalth majority fighter fleet and also i think the US is also getting a 4th gen fighter as well the f15ex

@@murderofcrows2179 no airplane ever flew over 100 yrs both military or civil. Its more like 30-40 yrs

Sounds like already got order deal in Philippines.

@@dennythedavinchi3832 I thought the Philippines only employed light fighters.

@@user-lq2nu6cn7y No, we're now looking for MRF especially the F-16

@Gen Vuelham there is still no proof that the government will buy the KF21 in horizon 3, although they might be interested in it. Now we are still eyeing for 12 MRF

@Gen Vuelham lets just hope that the AFP will buy this fighter in the future

They are the flags of foreign guests (ministers, ambassadors, military attaché) who were present at the ceremony. But it got misinterpreted as sales attempt in this video 😅. But ya, it would be cool to see the jet making appearance for other nations. Although I'm not quite sure if the jet will be competitive against 5th Gen F35 and other existing 4th Gen fighters.

@@goldstonepark6028 ok someone clearly didn't pay attention in history class. The flags are NOT about the kor3an war participation. There are some flags of countries that were irrelevant to the war while some participated countries 's flags were missing

@@minggus9649 Ohhhh...
I feel dumb now lol.

Twin Engine is made by General Electric of US F414.

the boramae is a twin engine fighter plane, that is what the video was about.

ARC Almirante Tono? Few of my friends worked as a part time translator in that project. :)

Why doesn't Poland buy a bunch of Gripens? They are an excellent fighter, VSTOL capable with super cruise option and not too expensive.

@@deanfirnatine7814
Gripens were evalued together with Rafale and F-16 in early 2000's. F-16>Rafale>Gripen - that's conclusion back then.
New Gripens are not that much cheaper than US planes but aren't as capable. Current government decided to purchase 32 F-35A with some plans of buying more in the future

The Boramae's empty weight is actually less that the Super Hornet as the Super Hornet needs to have a heavier airframe to absorb a lifetime of rough aircraft carrier landings. So, the Boramae can carry more fuel and payload than the Super Hornet. However, both seem to have similar mission profiles. The Boramae will have Meteors and German IRST missiles.

and IRIS, AIM 120 and Taurus MEPHISTOs!

Your post is internally inconsistent.

@@JoeOvercoat not really, maybe depending on how you read and interpretted his statements. How is it conceited to say Koreans will protect their friends around the world with domestically produced arms? There’s definitely some loss in translation happening here, a mischaracterization or misunderstanding of his statements written in a language that clearly isn’t his first.

@@dr.j5642 Well, North and South Koreans are both Koreans.

Korea owns America money and also STOP STEALING

@@aussieboy4090 Pro Tip: you’re not American, ANZUS notwithstanding.

Right... you think the Japanese will put this in? If they do, this plane will probably have the worst stat in the whole game. I am sure F4 phantom with SAAM will kick this plane's buttz

@@jack99889988 I see what you're trying to get at, but I think the Ace Combat devs don't care. They just put whatever is cool into the game. Lasers, gauss cannons, flying aircraft carriers with lasers, giant submarines, some kind of tunnel you have to fly through and maybe dog fight in. If it looks cool then it gets added.

Battlefield DLC.

Do you know anything about when the next game will be released, or even when dev will start?

@@oblivion1745 oh they do care. Japanese are very if not extremely nationalistic. There is a reason k pop and samsung are highly successful world wide but not in Japan. I don't have to mention about this history/ current disputes between Japan and Korea to make a point. It is possible that the nation korea could be in the game but they would most likely be a hostile nation.

I still can't believe the South Koreans still operate F-4's.

@@Zachomara Some of them are at the ground display, while others are transversing the skies!

Those flags are participanted countries during Korean War.

They are completely different planes.
F-35 is
1: Working out, hundreds have been built and are in service already
2: Stealthy, which this plane is not

Yeah no

@하나님의 공돌이 It does highlight two different approaches to foreign countries, not as threats but as potential strategic and economic partners, I like the look.

It's an American rip off. Asia steal from West. Stole from U S A

@@aussieboy4090 Spoken like a true native English speaker.

@@aussieboy4090 they not stolen it. The paid it 🤡🤡💸

@@aussieboy4090 How can they stole it if Lockheed itself involved on this project...???

@@brandonpak2445 Like President Trump said, South Korea needs to PAY MUCH FOR FOR MILITARY STATIONED IN KOREA. PARASITE WAS A BAD MOVIE.

US military tech is widely shared even to enemies of USA like China.

It's an American rip off. Asia steal from West.

@@aussieboy4090 You are such a white supremacist. All of Asia steals from all of West? You are the kind of people believe call all Asians carry CCP virus. I guess Australia is no longer a part of "Asia" anymore. So, what exactly did they steal? If you are so smart, could you enlighten us? This is what I know: Lockheed Martin (yes, the developer of F-22, F-35) were involved as a partner in the early design stage. LM also agreed to transfer key technologies until the US government forbade it. Those key technologies - AESA, IRST, EOTGP, EWS - were developed by the Koreans themselves. Engine, ejection seat and other key components were bought (not stolen) or made under license from US and European firms. Thankfully, nothing was stolen from Australia because you have nothing worth stealing.

@@aussieboy4090 Korea paid to US for it. any problem? youre an Aussie boy. don't need to care!

Korea loves India, too^^ Did you know that an ancient Indian Kingdom of Aiyudha had a princess who went to the Kaya Kingdom in the south of Korea in the first century AD and married the founding King of Kaya? The King's name is Kim Suro(김수로), and the princess-Queen's name is Huh(허황후). This attests to such long and deep connection between the Indians and the Koreans. Isn't that wonderful?

@@davidpark372 yes it is my brother❤

@@davidpark372 didn't knew this,thanks mate for telling

On a different note: CiA life matters
krplus.net/bidio/pK-ge4WYp4fIoGU

We should have made it together not indonesia.

@@user-pe5my6kd6s was once proposed by ROK but declined by Turkish government for their own fighter project..

@Nothing to Read ?

@@kingniko28 yeah i heard about it. Hope your country get your own fighter successful ly. +++ S400 f35 forsure

Im from korea. Thanks 🇰🇷🇮🇳 i like India

Thanks, India.

Good luck to the AMCA project my India friends. Love from South Korea.

Thank you! love from korea

Indonesia flag 0:40

that's pretty cheap considering that the f35 was USD 220 million per before LRIP- low rate initial production, right? I wonder if Korea could do similarly.

USD 70M is ridiculously cheap. I suspect there will be cost overruns if for nothing else than US defense companies pushing high price for KFX to make US planes more price competitive

@@handavid6421 that was just unit cost, not including training, replacement parts, ammo, maintenance support, and training materals.

I think there gonna be many for example European countries that will gladly buy less expensive, less impressive alternative to F-35.

SOUTH KOREA OWNS USA MILITARY MONEY, AND THEY ALSO STEAL AMERICAN TECHNOLOGY.

@@aussieboy4090 You are just everywhere.

No doubt Philippines will gonna have it in future maybe in 3rd horizon of modernization program after they get their MRF in 2nd horizon

Indonesia flag 0:40

@@10klikeanonimbalikwxc14 norakkk

indonesia beside korea 0:40

It's an American rip off. Asia steal from West.

@@aussieboy4090 please elaborate

👍

대한민국 🇰🇷 amazing

@@fritzkrakaz Pay more for US military base stationed in South Korea you Kim puppet.

well Meteor is just chosen for now because KF-21 couldn't get permissions for AMRAAM and AIM-9 integration for now, mainly because there was no real aircraft till this day. I think we will sure get that permission from US now and will use them instead meteor and IRIS-T cause it is more convenient in terms of ammunition supply

GE f414... that is sad... Hopefully is a upgrade variant..

The only thing I heard was the jet was supposed to be capable of achieving Mach 1.81.

@@AntonYoon - True. If I were running the ROK's air force, I would probably stick with the Meteor until the U.S. fields the AIM-260. For now, the Meteor strikes me as the better BVR missile since it was purpose-built for that, but the AIM-260 could (and likely will) be superior since it will be brand new.

@@AntonYoon the Meteor is a superior BVR missile to the AMRAAM. The AMRAAM is just a rocket whereas the Meteor is a ramjet that can maintain high speeds all throughout its range, providing superior kinematics. The AMRAAM's motor runs out at just 30 miles so anything beyond 30 miles is hard to hit. The Meteor has a higher probability of hitting it's target all throughout it's 100 mile range.

its not had its first flight yet

Yes 👍🏼

It’s not marketed as a 5th gen fighter.

@@johnremcastro not yet anyway

Space for intake is already prepared. It was important requirement of korean airforce

Kai said they had hard work for it

That's right, the plane was completed on time.

F-22's body size and wing area are designed with two 37,000 lbf engines.

@@valenrn8657 just because there's a size disparity or a difference in engine displacement doesn't exclude the overall architectural geometry/design elements. There's absolutely doubt where the Kf-21 got it influence. You'd have to be blind not to see it. There's nothing original about its design whatsoever and it's not even for debate.

@@roblockhart6104
The real F-16 designer www.codeonemagazine.com/article.html?item_id=37
F-16 Designer Harry Hillaker
Harry Hillaker's statement on low wing loading and wing size...
__For example, the drag coefficient of an F-16 is about the same as that of an F-4. However, the F-16 has about one-third the drag of an F-4 in level flight. At angle of attack, it is about one-fifteenth_
_We knew that we wanted low wing loading and high thrust loading. But we also knew that low wing loading means more weight and more drag_
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Engine power, wing area (lift drag), and empty weight have major influences on acceleration (energy recovery).
I made my statement based on Harry Hillaker's arguments.

@@roblockhart6104 FYI, NGAD design is targeting two 45,000 lbf adaptive engines.

No internal bay = no stealth. I think this plane probably have the same level of radar signature as F/A - 18 EF

Baby steps, Rome wasn't built in a day. Give it time and they be there own products not US imitations.

I'm not surprised even Japan at one point coped Western aircraft designs .

Not an imitation if Lockheed themselves acted as partner.

The Boramae has Super Hornet engines (GE F414-400) so it's mission profile and payload is going to be similar to the Super Hornet, not the F-15E+.

All weapons systems programs ROK has done in the last twenty years have a built in phased production plan, so there will be phase II and phase III, and I expect phase II will be bigger engines to permit supercruise and possibly carrier launch, and phase III internal weapons bay with strike capabilities, with each phase occurring five years from prior phase.

Ally?, has a strong dog

@@simplengmanlalakbay WOOF!

@@simplengmanlalakbay well would that dog be around without the us

@@connorbarr3435 why?, would it dis appeat if there is no US?

@@simplengmanlalakbay what are you saying

More like an unfinished 5th-gen fighter, like an incomplete project submitted to the teacher due to time constraints.

5 gen means pricey not only purchase also maintenance too.
kf-21 is heading different direction most cost effective way

@@jiroyamada1139 i mean the US brags a lot about their 5th gen planes but they still rely a lot on their f16 and f15s. something cheaper that you can actually use is better.

@@MrWizardjr9 True. Hopefully they get the semi-recessed weapons station working (reduce RCS). The radar-absorbent materials will probably be a future upgrade.

Yep and now there building aircraft carriers

@@justanormalgermanboy9269 As well as more fishing boats😂

The last time I was this early, nobody cared

Yeah fishing boats... They will use those fishing boast to attack S. Korea, the Philippines, HK, Taiwan and the 16 other countries due to its territorial claims..

@@MrCooper83 1) HK isn't a country 2) South Korea and Japan's claims to the South China sea are kinda BS honestly. China, Vietnam, Taiwan, and the Phillipines should be the ones with legitimate claims.

But how many Mustangs or Spitfires would it take to do what a single one of these things could do?

@@userofthetube2701 Well things need to be in perspective and context and therefore almost the same in their respective context.
By the way, we tend to mystify and overestimate the potency if these high tech gadgets. Quantity is a quality all of its own.

@@thelovertunisia How many Stukas to destroy a Tunguska? Or you can put a guy with an MG42 in one side, and at the other 500 guys of the Napoleonic era. Quantity is a quality all of it's own to a certain point. A modern Mustang costs around 9 million dollars (Embraer Super Tucano) and it's not that survivable outside of CO-IN.

In addition you got different companies making the same thing. Shermans got like 10+ companies building it at that time.

@@Joshua_N-A Yep which shows if a country really wanted to produce a system quickly and out it into service, like when your life depends on it, they could as they have done before. But outside a total war, things go at a leisurly pace.

WTF???

@@3811eric meaning the F 22 is always in the hangar and never on sortie because of its enormous maintenance requirements.

@@murderofcrows2179
Also the fact that congress made it law that the F-22 is not to be exported.

26년 실전배치까지 화이팅합시다 개발자분들!!

这垃圾战斗机已经拆了。

@@user-bx8zg5vi7r 위그루 해제?

I'm S.korean and Hope we can cooperate too

@@user-ym8ic8r I am American and I will invade both your countries for oil XD (we are not allies no more)

@@denzelsmashsymptom4264 yes please

@@denzelsmashsymptom4264 GL

@@ASS_ault It's called a joke 😐

특정 몇명이 깽판치는것 외에는 긍정적.. 모양이 랩터랑 비슷하다고 베낀거냐고 조롱하는글도 몇번 보았지만

@@kfx3907 개인적으로 모양은 베낀것 같음

@@user-kt8ur5db4w 베낀게 아니고 록히트 마틴의 지원이랑 비슷한 시뮬레이션으로 했기 때문에 현존 최고의 스텔스 성능을 가진 디자인이 비슷하게 나올 수 밖에 없음

@@user-kt8ur5db4w형상설계 기술자문받은거니 비슷해도 록마에서도 말안나올듯요 ㅎ 자기들이 이런모양이 스텔스성능에 좋은거다하고 가르켜준거니

it may depend on when Indonesia needs fighters, KFX would be available after 2030. if Indonesia wants to increase airforce power immediately, Probably F-16V would be a good choice. Rafale, Eurofighter requires a lot of operation and maintenance costs. some times those fighters are hard to be kept even by rich European countries.

@@youngmoon8762 Yeah, the problem is that F16 is a very light fighter, not suitable for long duration, long range missions. But it is cheap. F35 and F15EX are very expansive, i wouldn't even consider buying them, and Rafale or Eurofighter are just too foreign for the airforce.
We have been using MiGs and Sukhois for much of our history, buying SU 35 would be much easier because we have enough trained pilots and mechanics for SU 27 and SU 30 already, and we would be less dependent on the west. But, any foreign system should only be a stopgap, we have to develop our own to be independent. Only then we can be safe.

@@stateservant Understood, but the important thing is which country would be the potential enemy. S. Korea has N. Korea but recently, china is the biggest threat to S.Korea that's why they bought F35 and develop KF21. Indonesia can have air dominance with SU 35 against Thailand, the philippine, and S.East countries. but if it is china its will not be easy without support from western countries.

Indonesia's annual defense budget is $9 billion.
Indonesia has no choice but to buy used Sukhois fighter jets.

@@benjamin-erlangen Nah... it's only 0.8% of our GDP, we can certainly push it upwards. Sometimes, like in this airforce case, the military, as far as my knowledge goes, is given extra funding solely for the procurement of new aircrafts. This is outside of the 9 billion. If it is solely from defense budget, would never be able to build a military. Btw no.. the sukhois are new. F16s are second hand