The Macabre Death Of Edgar Allan Poe

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  • How much do we really know about the death of one of the most famous poets in the world?
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  • @BuzzFeedUnsolvedNetwork
    @BuzzFeedUnsolvedNetwork  4 년 전 +12710

    Make sure to leave your questions for our Post Mortem episode down below!

    • @magnifison4568
      @magnifison4568 4 년 전 +98

      Why?

    • @alyssanicole336
      @alyssanicole336 4 년 전 +360

      Edgar Allan Poe loved cats, he had a cat named Catterina that would sit on his shoulder when he wrote, and slept on his wifes chest to keep her company. After he died they went to his home and found that his cat also died. (But probably just from lack of food yikes) Also, at the Poe museum, there are 2 cats, Edgar and Pluto.
      Edit:
      I'm very annoying but here's some more facts:
      1. Some people think that Poe and Virginia's relationship was more platonic that romantic
      2. Poe's rival, Rufus Griswold, wrote an awful obituary for him in which he said Poe's death “will startle many, but few will be grieved by it”
      3. come on leave him alone he wasn't that gross and creepy, just a very sad man (other than the Virgina thing lol) but he constantly tried to escape the horrors of his life, he just never could
      4. He actually wasn't very famous or successful during his lifetime so people probably wouldn't have recognized him
      5. ok sorry I get this is very annoying I just think people should know more about him

    • @pamelaedith7994
      @pamelaedith7994 4 년 전 +181

      will the hot daga be back this season

    • @dogedog8686
      @dogedog8686 4 년 전 +21

      BuzzFeed Unsolved Network Yeetus

    • @TheIkhsan7
      @TheIkhsan7 4 년 전 +62

      So, will Shane do hotdaga stories on qna?

  • @belleadams9269
    @belleadams9269 4 년 전 +11719

    “-he was a weird little spindly man with a head the size of a pumpkin” *Shane acts as though he didn’t just describe himself*

  • @alex-fs9yt
    @alex-fs9yt 4 년 전 +7016

    Ghost: boo!
    Ryan: *dies*
    Shane: _Here lies Ryan Bergara, loving wife._

  • @korinnab.2318
    @korinnab.2318 2 년 전 +8058

    I know this is from a year ago, but I feel the need to let everyone know that it is believed that Poe only married his cousin to save her from being married off to an abuser

    • @sayarasa8961
      @sayarasa8961 2 년 전 +848

      i take back my words

    • @qwerty9797
      @qwerty9797 2 년 전 +579

      That makes me think less less of him

    • @korinnab.2318
      @korinnab.2318 2 년 전 +396

      @@savvystudios7950 I wish I did but I can't find anything online. I heard this from my college literature prof so maybe I can email him about it

    • @GeekRaj
      @GeekRaj 2 년 전 +245

      It was normal back then to marry before 18. In India too where I was raised, people used to marry when they were 13 years old. Like a 13 yr old boy marrying 12 year old girl. It was common back then. Sometimes in villages and rural areas in India this tradition still continues.

    • @Gos1234567
      @Gos1234567 2 년 전 +16

      Yea right

  • @shelbykroah7030
    @shelbykroah7030 3 년 전 +3473

    Just so you know, he wasn’t in a sexual relationship with his cousin. He married her to save her from an arranged marriage.

    • @cronchybo
      @cronchybo 2 년 전 +90

      yeah, but it's still gross (based on modern standards).

    • @Whatareevenbirds
      @Whatareevenbirds 2 년 전 +629

      @@cronchybo i mean- If my arranged marrige consists of a terrible groom, I, too, would like to fake marry my cousin solely to avoid a terrible relationship. Back then it was normal (Im NOT condoning it), so it was either arrange marriage or fake marriage

    • @s.f6851
      @s.f6851 2 년 전 +26

      @@cronchybo Stop being a fuckin snowflake

    • @cronchybo
      @cronchybo 2 년 전 +116

      @@s.f6851 just say you wanna marry your cousin and leave

    • @cheyennegentry438
      @cheyennegentry438 2 년 전 +62

      I always thought it was the creepy way.i guess it's sweet. Honestly, still a little weird.

  • @antersiuruo1824
    @antersiuruo1824 4 년 전 +3785

    Shane: "I don't know much about Edgar Allan Poe"
    Also Shane: *Literally looks like him*

    • @lolajaramillo4620
      @lolajaramillo4620 4 년 전 +26

      Ha Ha Ha!😂 All he needs is a bit of white face makeup, and black hair dye!🤣

    • @rae9766
      @rae9766 4 년 전

      Omg facts

    • @fastname6519
      @fastname6519 4 년 전 +1

      Who knows they might even be related

    • @feedswagpeppa3976
      @feedswagpeppa3976 4 년 전 +1

      Bahaha maybe he’s lying to cover it up 😂🤭

  • @CaptainLog
    @CaptainLog 4 년 전 +23381

    Shane is bringing that POWERFUL divorced substitute teacher energy.

  • @ickyalyx666
    @ickyalyx666 3 년 전 +6981

    *when you learn more about edgar allan poe in a 23 minute video than you ever did in school*

    • @kysonshane9285
      @kysonshane9285 3 년 전 +102

      Yeah, learning his actually poetry wasn’t good enough ... seriously, I would’ve paid way more attention

    • @loicbedard3085
      @loicbedard3085 3 년 전 +75

      I'm showing this to my students tomorrow to present poe! Hahahah

    • @thewrustywrench21
      @thewrustywrench21 3 년 전 +29

      I think it’s more his work is used as a tool to teach literature. He’s studied in English & reading and writing classes not history.

    • @space_boi8545
      @space_boi8545 3 년 전 +28

      Pan brother/sister/sibling hello

    • @abridgedTrainwreck
      @abridgedTrainwreck 3 년 전 +20

      I read Tell Tale Heart in my english class and now my knowledge is just ‘he married his 13 yo cousin’

  • @cezargotrobbed
    @cezargotrobbed 3 년 전 +1081

    Ryan: *does extensive research on the death of Edgar Allen Poe*
    Also Ryan: *freaks out over the knowledge that Poe was from Baltimore*

    • @sambhavimishra8453
      @sambhavimishra8453 2 년 전 +30

      He was not though. He just died in Baltimore and the place claimed him because he became a famous historical literary figure.

    • @katherineamelia98
      @katherineamelia98 년 전 +16

      @@sambhavimishra8453 he lived in baltimore for many years, it’s safe to say he’s from there

  • @kops84able
    @kops84able 4 년 전 +3820

    Fun fact the ravens mascots are named “Edgar”, “Allen”, and “Poe”.

  • @samanthadalton9626
    @samanthadalton9626 4 년 전 +4188

    “Grossly, Virginia was his cousin. Even grosslier, she was half his age” 😂😂

    • @meganglewwe4600
      @meganglewwe4600 4 년 전 +69

      Samantha Dalton GROSSLIER

    • @bekah5986
      @bekah5986 4 년 전 +18

      ewww i read this as ryan said that SpOoKyYyYy

    • @AMY1213141
      @AMY1213141 4 년 전 +71

      The fact he says it in his monotone documentary voice makes it even better

    • @joeysaviation2033
      @joeysaviation2033 4 년 전 +8

      Welp, that’s the south for you

    • @loganplonski922
      @loganplonski922 4 년 전 +35

      Grossliest, she was only 13. That.... seems relevant.

  • @emilygracey
    @emilygracey 2 년 전 +828

    The relationship between Poe and Virginia has been reported as platonic and never consummated. There are also accounts that he married her to spare her from an arranged marriage that her parents were making. He was such an interesting guy.

  • @corachandler9932
    @corachandler9932 2 년 전 +286

    "It's very easy to condemn from our vantage point in history, and so we do condemn! Wholeheartedly!" One of Shane's best quotes.

  • @safidraws9499
    @safidraws9499 4 년 전 +3470

    "She was 13."
    *long. Uncomfortable silence*

    • @issyyourboo2848
      @issyyourboo2848 3 년 전 +101

      Did y'all also miss the fact that she was his cousin

    • @issyyourboo2848
      @issyyourboo2848 3 년 전 +78

      @@ethanlafontaine6045 um yes there is. Have you not heard about deformities and health problems that are more likely to happen through incest?

    • @emmafalconer6127
      @emmafalconer6127 3 년 전 +55

      @@ethanlafontaine6045 Tell that to king Charles II of Spain, he is a perfect example why inbreeding is Bad

    • @snakeoi8189
      @snakeoi8189 3 년 전 +19

      @@emmafalconer6127 *Please don't remind.*

    • @UIAL570
      @UIAL570 3 년 전 +17

      I’m just going to say it “can’t be doing that”😂

  • @bluefox99887
    @bluefox99887 4 년 전 +3356

    I see the mannequin found a new, and even more terrifying location...

    • @sapphosdescendants3997
      @sapphosdescendants3997 4 년 전 +71

      bluefox99887 Yeah, sat right next to Ryan!

    • @alexei9122
      @alexei9122 4 년 전 +207

      When it's just about in the corner, it's just like a stalker
      By the window, it looks like it's actually planning your murder

    • @ysabellaanover6238
      @ysabellaanover6238 4 년 전 +39

      I remember a video they made "the watcher" and it reminds me of it

    • @L16htW4rr10r
      @L16htW4rr10r 4 년 전 +20

      @@alexei9122 Thank you for making me notice it. Im scared now.

    • @ahmedsaif1764
      @ahmedsaif1764 4 년 전 +12

      Imagine this thing at your room's window

  • @hannahgee5407
    @hannahgee5407 3 년 전 +523

    Yeah marrying a 13 year old at 27 wasn’t looked at kindly back then either

    • @LilCriminalFUC12
      @LilCriminalFUC12 3 년 전 +1

      12:12 lol shane said that not ryan

    • @withtheworks
      @withtheworks 2 년 전 +57

      I was looking for this comment, yeah marrying your child cousin was definitely Not the norm in 1830s Virginia

    • @CRUSH40RULES
      @CRUSH40RULES 2 년 전 +11

      It's being looked at too kindly now or ever! That girl had only just started going through puberty.

    • @GeekRaj
      @GeekRaj 2 년 전 +12

      It was normal back then to marry before 18. In India too where I was raised, people used to marry when they were 13 years old. Like a 13 yr old boy marrying 12 year old girl. It was common back then. Sometimes in villages and rural areas in India this tradition still continues. Yeah but a 27 yr old marrying someone half his age is pretty disturbing.

    • @CRUSH40RULES
      @CRUSH40RULES 2 년 전 +3

      @@GeekRaj if it was common back then, then it's fine. But when we read about something like this today, even if it was from way back when, we can't help but feel disgusted.

  • @loudlady2
    @loudlady2 3 년 전 +366

    There's actually a story in my family that one of our great great great uncles, who lived in Baltimore at the time, helped a pale man from a ditch and to the local hospital a couple nights before Poe died. Apparently he was incredibly unwell looking hense the idea of bringing him to the hospital, it was thought by the uncle's daughter that that man was Poe and she wrote it in one of her schoolbooks that we still have from her.

    • @manuellubian5709
      @manuellubian5709 6 개월 전 +5

      That is very interesting. It would be even more interesting if you might consider sharing a copy of this letter or book that you have with the Pratt Library in Baltimore Maryland. The Pratt Library is the keeper and conservator of a few items taken from po at the time of his death these few remaining artifacts are kept under lock and key in a vault in the museum. If you contact them the library Museum just might be interested in what you have to share with them. They may even want to analyze it and look over whatever material your family currently still possesses.

    • @PoisonelleMisty4311
      @PoisonelleMisty4311 2 개월 전 +1

      Now, people often think of Poe as this brooding, mysterious figure. But did you know he was also a master of disguise? Yeah, apparently, he used to dress up and go to different taverns just to mess with people. I gotta say, that takes commitment. Imagine spending hours putting on a fake mustache just to creep people out. That's some next-level dedication to the craft.

  • @brynncolegrave9386
    @brynncolegrave9386 4 년 전 +2633

    “grossly, she was his cousin. even grosslier, she was half his age” lmaooooo

  • @rubykgarrett
    @rubykgarrett 4 년 전 +3298

    "grossly, virginia was his cousin. _grosslier_ virginia was half his age."

    • @chriswu15
      @chriswu15 4 년 전 +32

      Great pfp lol

    • @sophiamiller6
      @sophiamiller6 4 년 전 +24

      ruby I REPLAYED THIS PART LIKE 80 TIMES

    • @feralcatgirl
      @feralcatgirl 4 년 전 +148

      can't spell pedo without p, o, and e

    • @DragonKiller-nw2ju
      @DragonKiller-nw2ju 4 년 전 +16

      Actually, back then in the earlier 1800's, marrying your cousins was seen as normal.

    • @lovingblueboy7686
      @lovingblueboy7686 4 년 전 +48

      Dragon Killer 5566 yes we know, doesn’t make it less gross

  • @mureithikivuti
    @mureithikivuti 2 년 전 +244

    Imagine life constantly throwing you curveballs and you somehow manage to become one of the most influential writers in your time.
    Respect

    • @carnuatus
      @carnuatus 년 전 +13

      But mostly after his death so he doesn't even get to witness it.

    • @mureithikivuti
      @mureithikivuti 년 전 +5

      @@carnuatus Like I said. Life is constantly curving him.
      But somehow in a weird way he makes it

  • @totemquote6371
    @totemquote6371 2 년 전 +168

    Does anyone else love it when Ryan is narrating in an official, calm tone and casually throws in flowing phrases like “and, since his dad was a tightwad,” and “even ‘grosslier,’ she was his cousin” bc that’s the sudden and uncommented-upon informality I signed up for

  • @WeBrEaThGaMiNg
    @WeBrEaThGaMiNg 4 년 전 +5272

    Nobody:
    Literally nobody:
    Shane outta nowhere: I don’t like heroin.

    • @jessicachurch2462
      @jessicachurch2462 4 년 전 +27

      How many times do you think he tried it before deciding that?😂

    • @lastlife0726
      @lastlife0726 4 년 전 +68

      Jessica Church 😂 nah. It's a running gag with him. He's deathly afraid of someone randomly injecting him with heroin, this has come up many times in the past

    • @zz7733
      @zz7733 4 년 전 +20

      @@lastlife0726 It's honestly such a rational phobia to have tbh. Heroin addiction is a horror movie irl.

    • @thefearlessAFA
      @thefearlessAFA 4 년 전

      Ronaldinho is 40 now!

    • @spookyspider2820
      @spookyspider2820 4 년 전

      We Breathe Football it’s not fun

  • @HPluvr3211
    @HPluvr3211 4 년 전 +9919

    Did you boys know that Edgar Allan Poe’s house here in Richmond, Virginia is reportedly very haunted by his ghost. Perhaps there could be a sequel in the supernatural season? Hmmm?

  • @caitlin2649
    @caitlin2649 3 년 전 +299

    When he said "Poe found out that his fiance, (girl's name)..." I def heard "Beyonce" instead of "fiance" and I was like "okay yeah so his idol I guess, his queen" and my brain saw nothing amiss with that.

  • @saaamember97
    @saaamember97 3 년 전 +158

    I remember several years ago, watching a documentary on Poe, where they assembled a small team of physicians, of various disciplines, to try to come to some determination as to what actually happened to cause Poe's death. I don't remember if this documentary was on television or online. They gathered all the known information of Poe's personal medical history, his family's medical history, his living conditions, his work conditions, and even examined a collection of photos of Poe. If I remember correctly, they determined that it was a sort of "perfect storm" of a number of things.
    1. They determined that he suffered from Macrocephaly. That is why his head was as big as it was.
    2. They also went into discussion as to why his eyes were so sunken and dark. They attributed it to a symptom of breathing in too much fumes from the burning of coal oil (I'm not sure if they came up with a name for the condition). All buildings at that time used coal oil lamps to provide indoor lighting.
    There were other symptoms and diagnoses, but I can't remember what they were. Bottomline, they stated that it was a number of things that killed him .... Not just one thing. I wish I could find that video!

  • @RobbieGoldy
    @RobbieGoldy 4 년 전 +1542

    "I don't like heroin" - Shane
    ...suspicious...

    • @dtkabridged
      @dtkabridged 4 년 전 +49

      This is the same man that has the irrational fear of just suddenly being stabbed in public and being injected with heroin... So his fear is valid

    • @mikeparavinja3885
      @mikeparavinja3885 4 년 전 +2

      @Jacqueline McDonald lol...no one can appreciate your humor but I can.

    • @ava-qp8te
      @ava-qp8te 4 년 전 +6

      that’s something only someone who likes heroine would say...

    • @dtkabridged
      @dtkabridged 4 년 전 +3

      @SsSs RoBbSs it's both it's a weird fear to have but like the probability of it happening is never zero
      Especially in LA

    • @lmisgay
      @lmisgay 4 년 전

      Indeed...🧐

  • @JustAwesomee
    @JustAwesomee 4 년 전 +1648

    “I never liked heroin”
    -Shane, 2020

  • @ajjanzel
    @ajjanzel 3 년 전 +165

    I feel like the story of Edgar Allen Poe's wife is so twisted to fit his "messed up suffering artist/writer" narrative when in reality, she was his cousin/niece (I can't quite remember) whose parents died of TB when she was 12 which put her in a very awkward position of either 1) being sent to a monastery to live out her days 2) marrying some strange suitor she didn't know or 3) going to a monastery for a few years only to be thrown out onto the streets as an orphan. Poe, as her uncle, was unable and couldn't afford to legally take her in as a child but he COULD marry her preventing her from all of those fates and at the very least she was with family. Is it a fucked up system? Yeah. But It's definitely not Edgar Allen Poe who messed with that, he did the best he could for the little family he had left. Was there a relationship? Muuch later, but not initially. Still messed up but not nearly as much as the initial glance suggests.

  • @nadiaishere2810
    @nadiaishere2810 3 년 전 +86

    I want my headstone to say "he was a weird little spindly man with a head the size of a pumpkin"

    • @Noone-jn3jp
      @Noone-jn3jp 2 년 전

      if you plan it out it could say whatever you want, there’s a scavenger hunt planned for my friends. “how do we know it’s real?”
      me: “only one way to find out”

  • @HokeyPokey81300
    @HokeyPokey81300 4 년 전 +3582

    One of Poe’s ancestors definitely pissed off a witch or something. Seems like a family curse almost

    • @huntermashburn7217
      @huntermashburn7217 4 년 전 +167

      Pumpkin God some people aren’t affected by tuberculosis. They just carry it. All his wives (and his parents) died from tuberculosis. I think his godmother did too. So i think when his parents died he was infected and became a carrier. So all the people he was around long enough died but he lived.

    • @guanlonghe8465
      @guanlonghe8465 4 년 전 +13

      #postmortum

    • @Zenigundam
      @Zenigundam 4 년 전 +4

      @@abominableman Are you taken? You're really cute.

    • @Zenigundam
      @Zenigundam 4 년 전 +4

      @@abominableman You can't be serious...
      Do you realize that you just met a stud?

    • @dala4706
      @dala4706 2 년 전 +22

      @@Zenigundam grosslier

  • @jenniferetheridge3041
    @jenniferetheridge3041 4 년 전 +2635

    Interesting Poe Fact: The most important women in his life (biological mother, adoptive mother, and wife) all died of tuberculosis! edit: thank y’all for the likes and very fun comments! love the unsolved community!!

    • @dainmcl
      @dainmcl 4 년 전 +106

      Jennifer Claire I sometimes forget how deadly tuberculosis was, considering now most people are vaccinated against it (including me, thank god).

    • @melo13melo
      @melo13melo 4 년 전 +129

      I think I read somewhere once that Poe was probably a carrier of tuberculosis. Everyone close to him died of it but he never got it himself.

    • @leviathxns
      @leviathxns 4 년 전 +50

      I read that as one singular woman and I thought they were all the same person. I was real freaked out until I realized

    • @xgoldreaperx4093
      @xgoldreaperx4093 4 년 전 +10

      Arthur Morgan has entered the chat

    • @velvet4299
      @velvet4299 4 년 전 +6

      I'm glad you said interesting fact instead of fun fact 😂

  • @e-linamarie
    @e-linamarie 3 년 전 +76

    “aunt/mother-in-law” is such,,, an interesting statement

  • @wasd____
    @wasd____ 3 년 전 +94

    "It was a thing of the times"
    ...No. No, it actually wasn't a thing of those times. Marrying a 13 year old was merely not-illegal at the time, not something that was actually common or generally approved of.

    • @danielsherar7548
      @danielsherar7548 3 년 전 +1

      I don't think the marriage was romantic like that

    • @ahuddleston6512
      @ahuddleston6512 2 년 전 +7

      Oddly enough it still not illegal in some states with parental/guardian consent.

  • @alexistherockstar
    @alexistherockstar 4 년 전 +4698

    This entire show is Shane not knowing what is going on at all and Ryan stating facts for him.

  • @irisfaith2220
    @irisfaith2220 4 년 전 +3030

    Poe wasn’t ever famous when he was alive. After he died his short story’s and poems got very famous. That makes his life story even more sad

    • @baubross5595
      @baubross5595 4 년 전 +58

      Iris Faith he was famous after publishing the raven, but i believe it died out

    • @laurelmcfarland7316
      @laurelmcfarland7316 4 년 전 +130

      He did have moments of fame, but you’re right that it was never enough to be anything to support him

    • @theoutcasts8844
      @theoutcasts8844 4 년 전 +37

      That’s common in writer’s

    • @chrisanagn.3584
      @chrisanagn.3584 4 년 전 +56

      Reminds me of Van Gogh's story

    • @williamtran3208
      @williamtran3208 4 년 전 +2

      @Iris Faith Edgar Allan Poe died.

  • @lawl_4llie
    @lawl_4llie 년 전 +52

    Poe is one of the coolest poets in my opinion, he was very intelligent and had a very rough life, he deserved better than what he was handed.

  • @ipshitakanungo3025
    @ipshitakanungo3025 2 년 전 +43

    He had a sad, sad life. I mean... Even his corpse couldn't rest in peace

  • @robinurgender8617
    @robinurgender8617 4 년 전 +15479

    *Shane looks like a depressed history teacher, but like the kind of depressed history teacher that is actually your favorite teacher because they make history fun* .

    • @magicmyth2635
      @magicmyth2635 4 년 전 +412

      This discription makes me think of Remus Lupin from harry potter no offence to the character. he one of my favorites

    • @robinurgender8617
      @robinurgender8617 4 년 전 +58

      magic myth2 Remus Lupin is fantastic!

    • @elixirLife0707
      @elixirLife0707 4 년 전 +73

      @@magicmyth2635 Same! It was Remus Lupin I remembered. With his shabby but dignified clothes.

    • @fernfernisfernie
      @fernfernisfernie 4 년 전 +32

      And because you have a big crush on them

    • @pissboy_8671
      @pissboy_8671 4 년 전 +22

      I got all I need from his ruining history

  • @maddis4900
    @maddis4900 4 년 전 +2845

    THE LEVEL OF EXCITEMENT I FEEL AHHH

  • @aminatamaiga1
    @aminatamaiga1 3 년 전 +68

    3:15 why would you give money to the military to get your god son out, when you could give your god son money to finish school. Like, sir. Hello. What’s wrong with you

  • @1o1nah
    @1o1nah 2 년 전 +15

    5:09 "It's very easy to condemn from our vantage point in history, and so we do condemn! Wholeheartedly!"
    came here for this.

  • @testingno7199
    @testingno7199 4 년 전 +2392

    He’s born and raised Boston. He just died in Baltimore and the city was like He’s Ours now

    • @inayatjain2973
      @inayatjain2973 4 년 전 +36

      Yup he’s ours now oop

    • @jerryhernandez9775
      @jerryhernandez9775 4 년 전 +2

      Sullivan's Island SC lays a claim to him as well

    • @existent6137
      @existent6137 4 년 전 +16

      Yeah we did and Boston can fight us

    • @victorrestrepo5633
      @victorrestrepo5633 4 년 전 +20

      ehhhh richmond va claims him more. his life takes place 80% in richmond

    • @katrinaumana2127
      @katrinaumana2127 4 년 전 +6

      Yup we also claim Babe Ruth cause he was born in Baltimore even though he mainly lived in NYC & Boston 🤷😂

  • @izzylouise9891
    @izzylouise9891 4 년 전 +4221

    Me: *immediately looks to see if the mannequin is gone*
    Shane and Ryan: “Let’s make the mannequin even creepier this season”

  • @boundtocreateb2c978
    @boundtocreateb2c978 3 년 전 +11

    “I saw Coco!”
    So good. Nice to have you gents back.

  • @SANTIAGO1979PR
    @SANTIAGO1979PR 3 년 전 +30

    You can actually still buy yourself out of the military. I remember being in boot camp, and so many rich kids having their parents buy out their contracts. Basically, if you have the money to pay the government back you can buy out your contract. Most people don't have that kind of money.

  • @dingodogg784
    @dingodogg784 4 년 전 +4378

    Can’t we all agree that Poe, was just a VERY unlucky man

    • @LucyLioness100
      @LucyLioness100 3 년 전 +157

      A bunch of unlucky tragedies & not uncommon to have such troubles for many back in the 1800s. Still truly terrible he didn’t live longer to see how much the public embraced his works after his death

    • @waynej2608
      @waynej2608 3 년 전 +66

      Ya think!? His life is comparable to much of his brilliant writing. Tragic, dark yet beguiling and impressive.

    • @ProperlyGaming
      @ProperlyGaming 3 년 전 +9

      The best artists have some sort of tragic life and or just mental issues.

    • @p.s.csdeaky8530
      @p.s.csdeaky8530 3 년 전 +6

      @Properly Gaming True, but is not just the best, ordinary people can have tragedies too, that's life, it doesn't pick a specific person, some good people have trgaedies, some bad people don't, life can be like that.

    • @ProperlyGaming
      @ProperlyGaming 3 년 전 +6

      @@p.s.csdeaky8530 I didn't mean to say normal people don't have tragedies but that some of the best artists whether it be writing, painting, or singing have allot of tragedy in their lives

  • @marklll4426
    @marklll4426 4 년 전 +907

    Poe: *gets born *
    Life: *You're going to have a bad time*

  • @tessgrutter9893
    @tessgrutter9893 년 전 +13

    I love how Ryan says that ghosts usually haunt places they died not necessarily where they were buried. I feel like graves are actually the least haunted places there are, unless u died where ur buried. Or the spirit goes to places or things they are most attached too

  • @natasharomanova4147
    @natasharomanova4147 3 년 전 +41

    Hey for anyone watching again, I recently learned that Poe’s marriage to Virginia was actually for her own safety as she was going to be married-off anyway. Nothing happened between Poe and Virginia during their marriage.

  • @paperxpens5508
    @paperxpens5508 4 년 전 +2636

    "He was like a weird little spindly man with a head the size of a pumpkin"
    Getting a little hypocritical Shane
    #postmortem #shaniac

  • @paytonlewis3438
    @paytonlewis3438 4 년 전 +3976

    Shane is really giving off Remus Lupin energy in this episode.

  • @gothicfairy2407
    @gothicfairy2407 3 년 전 +27

    I'm new to this series, but I can't believe you don't talk about the super secret people who leave things on his grave in the same fashion, same disguise, same time every year and despite multiple efforts have never been caught

    • @jamiel6005
      @jamiel6005 3 년 전 +1

      omg what?

    • @gothicfairy2407
      @gothicfairy2407 3 년 전 +8

      @@jamiel6005 Yeah I can't remember all the specifics about it know, but there's like a secret society of sorts that leave gifts on Poe's grave on I think his birthday. People have tried to catch them on camera and person and nobody knows who does it or how.

    • @jamiel6005
      @jamiel6005 3 년 전 +11

      @@gothicfairy2407 Maybe it’s just a bunch of gothic enthusiasts with a flair for the dramatic? That seems like something goths would do just for the aesthetic of it 😂

    • @bumbleB1
      @bumbleB1 년 전 +4

      As Poe would have wanted

  • @paulinagonzalez7554
    @paulinagonzalez7554 5 개월 전 +2

    I'm now a teacher planning for an Edgar Allan Poe Unit and I'm gonna use this for highschool juniors. Thank you guys.

  • @imirrelevant513
    @imirrelevant513 4 년 전 +3148

    Knowing this guy's luck, all of the theories are correct lmao

  • @lillymcgee6270
    @lillymcgee6270 3 년 전 +6108

    ok no one is going to see this comment but they didn’t tell the whole story of Elmira. She never cheated on him on purpose. they were engaged before poe went to college and agreed to write letters to each other. But Elmira’s father disapproved of the engagement and intercepted and destroyed all the letters. Elmira thought that Poe had forgot about her and married Shelton and had children . After Shelton died she met up again with poe, who had recently lost Virginia . They got engaged again, but poe died. She did not mean to cheat on him. I’m sorry I went on this rant I have a lot of feelings about Elmira

    • @kiera_klark8171
      @kiera_klark8171 3 년 전 +54

      Not saying I don’t believe you, but how do you know??

    • @gaysuck164
      @gaysuck164 3 년 전 +224

      @@kiera_klark8171 a google search maybe?

    • @lillymcgee6270
      @lillymcgee6270 3 년 전 +102

      Kiera _Klark it’s on her Wikipedia

    • @Only_Hopee
      @Only_Hopee 3 년 전 +125

      The Notebook vibes, anyone?

    • @seanki98
      @seanki98 3 년 전 +69

      That's even sadder

  • @fallen4life080
    @fallen4life080 3 년 전 +5

    I love that he quoted The O.C show. I loved that show when I was young.

  • @rosegeyer7403
    @rosegeyer7403 3 년 전 +9

    I love that wen he talked about his death he kept adding lines from “the raven”

  • @SmarkusAurelius
    @SmarkusAurelius 4 년 전 +5734

    "Poe was 27 and Virginia was 13"
    While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
    As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
    “’Tis the FBI” I muttered, “tapping at my chamber door-
    Only this and nothing more.”

    • @bubbathefett6706
      @bubbathefett6706 4 년 전 +267

      Crooty nobody realizes and appreciates that this is the raven

    • @milkyymel
      @milkyymel 4 년 전 +179

      the creativity in this comment. wow.

    • @Sofia-T
      @Sofia-T 4 년 전 +46

      Wow that's a good one right there!

    • @nr-5usrrobot802
      @nr-5usrrobot802 4 년 전 +6

      Also it’s not Rapping if your implying a Hell based drop off it would be rappelling.
      Also that’s more of the S.W.A.T teams thing, FBI do something’s do things, but for the most part when law enforcement bursts down your door it’s a S.W.A.T team, their also they guys who use tear gas and Shields. FBI normally don’t have the same gear S.W.A.T teams do, the most armor a FBI member would have is a Kevlar vest. Nothing that really could count as armor anywhere else on them.

    • @xtashax
      @xtashax 4 년 전 +11

      This is GENIUS

  • @casual-owl
    @casual-owl 4 년 전 +1603

    Ryan: We talk to ghosts all the time.
    Shane: *every regret flashes before his eyes*

  • @user-fh5ov4tu2j
    @user-fh5ov4tu2j 2 년 전 +11

    18:51 this has the same energy as "shut up" "make me"

  • @akiiomii
    @akiiomii 2 년 전

    i’ve been binge watching these guy is videos. like a video popped up on my recommendation out of nowhere and then i just became obsessed like there’s always a video recommended

  • @caitlyncloss8449
    @caitlyncloss8449 4 년 전 +799

    Fun fact: Elmira actually had no choice, Edgar promised her he would write to her while he was away, and he stayed true to his word but Elmira's father hid the letters from her and then later forced her into an arranged marriage, #postmortem

    • @ninavale.
      @ninavale. 4 년 전 +70

      hmm, this might reflect in some of his poems and stories. like Bridal Ballad. It's about a girl who had a man she loved but is forced to marry another. and despairs about it.

    • @PolyBiBadger
      @PolyBiBadger 4 년 전 +9

      Caitlyn Closs whoa, that’s terrible

    • @mackenziedillon295
      @mackenziedillon295 4 년 전 +14

      "FUN"?

    • @missbeliever5133
      @missbeliever5133 4 년 전 +3

      I wanna know when they moved Poe's bones out did they put them back? Or is the location to his grave still a mystery today?

    • @caitlyncloss8449
      @caitlyncloss8449 4 년 전

      How am I just now seeing these comments

  • @vitmin342
    @vitmin342 4 년 전 +3115

    "Poe was 27 and Virginia was 13"
    Chris Hansen: Edgar have a seat right on that stool there.

    • @TAddy-wq3hg
      @TAddy-wq3hg 4 년 전 +207

      Edgar Allen Poedephile

    • @kariscoyne1886
      @kariscoyne1886 4 년 전 +14

      @@TAddy-wq3hg fuCKIGN UNDERRATED COMMENT

    • @carlyhastings4420
      @carlyhastings4420 4 년 전 +4

      this deserves all of the likes

    • @franciafrancia2481
      @franciafrancia2481 4 년 전 +1

      😂😂😂

    • @SmoothSoulHD
      @SmoothSoulHD 4 년 전 +5

      @Think About it. I was thinking the same thing. It was a completely different time period and the further in time we go back the more common it was lol.

  • @emaustin8437
    @emaustin8437 3 년 전 +26

    I'm loving the references to The Raven throughout - you're too good to us literary nerds lmao

  • @caterpillar3275
    @caterpillar3275 3 년 전 +24

    "aunt/mother-in-law" is never a good thing to hear

  • @alex-fs9yt
    @alex-fs9yt 4 년 전 +1093

    _"Poe started publishing poems."_
    Me: ... *POEm*

    • @1MrsDaniela1
      @1MrsDaniela1 4 년 전 +6

      I totally read this as POEM, a surgery for a rare disease I've got, and got way too excited someone made a joke about it 😂 😅

    • @auroraastrid5054
      @auroraastrid5054 4 년 전 +6

      and for that, he' a POEt 🙊

    • @TheV3la
      @TheV3la 4 년 전 +1

      Edgar Allen PoeT

    • @wsss8945
      @wsss8945 4 년 전

      Eeeeyyyyy!

    • @keefeD146
      @keefeD146 4 년 전 +2

      What a poe boi

  • @vedanshkhanduri352
    @vedanshkhanduri352 4 년 전 +821

    "how DARE you judge him for marrying his thirteen year old cousin"
    "I don't care , I judge thee"
    *"I judge"*

  • @thefandomtheory
    @thefandomtheory 2 년 전 +7

    Despite famous prose and praise galore, Poe's death would be a mystery forevermore

  • @Sealgills
    @Sealgills 2 년 전 +21

    My high school English teacher’s theory was that Poe died of rabies. Apparently he liked to take in stray/wild animals. According to my teacher, a rival of Poe’s in Baltimore found him sick/collapsed and put him in a drunk vagrant’s clothes so that everyone would think he died of alcoholism.

    • @manuellubian5709
      @manuellubian5709 6 개월 전 +6

      It does not make logical sense to me that a friend would want to basically leave him lying in the street with people making false assumptions about him.

  • @JoeMazzolaTheFirstPersonCook

    "Don't marry kids" is the official stance of Shane "Long-Legs" Madej

    • @oli2328
      @oli2328 4 년 전 +22

      What about "stop serial killing"

    • @sageemma
      @sageemma 4 년 전 +3

      The American Revolutionary hero Lafayette also married a girl of 13 (or so.)

    • @meganperreault5191
      @meganperreault5191 4 년 전

      I did it and he never died or went to the hospital but they ALL chose MORE ? scratch scratch, :(

    • @humannotcat1622
      @humannotcat1622 4 년 전

      yes

    • @rachelhallie7483
      @rachelhallie7483 4 년 전 +2

      @@sageemma Yes but he was 16 at the time himself, so rather different

  • @PippaT-iw6su
    @PippaT-iw6su 4 년 전 +759

    Nobody gonna mention how Shane's goal is to look weird throughout his 30's?? Like he is intentionally looking like a 70s serial killer/weird teacher and i am living for this

    • @johannavictoria5676
      @johannavictoria5676 4 년 전 +45

      Yeah he has that remus lupin look

    • @ethanholmes6519
      @ethanholmes6519 4 년 전 +6

      Y'all know what kind of jacket hes wearing? It's pretty freaking awesome

    • @Zenigundam
      @Zenigundam 4 년 전 +3

      Not everybody ages well into their 30s. You have an alpha male like me who can still pass for 17 and then you have scraggly guys like him, who look old. Not everybody is a stud.

    • @khoo7732
      @khoo7732 4 년 전 +1

      Johanna Victoria I see this so much,

    • @ericamartiin
      @ericamartiin 4 년 전 +2

      definitely hitting his goal of looking weird, but weirdly enough.. he DEFINITELY pulls it off. 😍

  • @Grapesforeeeeeeeee

    love these! You guys are the best!! Thank you!

  • @lexifaricy5404
    @lexifaricy5404 3 년 전 +14

    nothing beats ryan’s excitement when shane told him about the Baltimore Ravens 😂

  • @maddy7101
    @maddy7101 4 년 전 +544

    "Get him out there, get him workin', get him burning his own furniture." The genius in this quote just cannot be comprehended.

    • @etuegen
      @etuegen 4 년 전 +1

      I need that quote on a shirt :D

    • @pixl_ghost465
      @pixl_ghost465 4 년 전 +2

      Would’ve been a good yearbook quote 🤣

  • @frannyb99
    @frannyb99 3 년 전 +5692

    "In the life of edgar allan poe, tragedy was never far off" *insert upbeat tango music and a dove deodorant comercial*

  • @bronbowen4852
    @bronbowen4852 3 년 전 +9

    Edgar allan poe is one of my favourite writers☺︎︎

  • @vanidiaogega94
    @vanidiaogega94 년 전

    Edgar is one of if not my all time favorite poets .
    I love The Raven
    I like singing it in my head when I'm walking to work.its so calming and deep 😌

  • @ghostoyster
    @ghostoyster 4 년 전 +754

    “Even grosslier”, ah yes I’ve missed Ryan’s literacy skills.

  • @Russianbluez
    @Russianbluez 4 년 전 +718

    Post Mortem: Just to point out, it is heavily debated over the nature of poe and virginia's relationship. she was in an abusive situation, its thought that poe married her to have a reason to get her out of it, as he did not have the money or status to take custody. she also was a writer in her own right and poe did his best to support her. from both of their writings, it is concluded they never "consummated the marriage", and virginia died a virgin. the supposed scandalous relationship was a theory heavily pushed by the brother in laws and family that believed poe was hiding money from them.

    • @dansenkat
      @dansenkat 4 년 전 +21

      impishclutter ohhhh I had never heard of this! I'm gonna look it up

    • @allisonl401
      @allisonl401 4 년 전 +37

      That’s interesting! I hope they see this and elaborate on it

    • @nikkirivera5307
      @nikkirivera5307 4 년 전 +57

      This makes me feel WAY better

    • @cambriadaW
      @cambriadaW 4 년 전 +14

      Ohhhh interesting !!! Yeah that makes me feel better about the situation lol
      #postmortem

    • @edgarallanpoe8917
      @edgarallanpoe8917 4 년 전 +5

      @motmus mom Pedophilia should never have been a consideration, thank you very much.. Virginia was of the proper age for marriage in our time..

  • @mandy-nk6no
    @mandy-nk6no 년 전 +3

    that evermore joke at the end was just chef’s kiss omg ryan u king

  • @michaellaarmstrong2115

    poe actually possessed shane in this episode and now shane is slowly presenting more and more like poe

  • @marylambert839
    @marylambert839 3 년 전 +2754

    shane: "poe was from baltimore."
    ryan: "wwOoOOooAAaHHhHhHhhHhhHhHHH"

    • @LucyLioness100
      @LucyLioness100 3 년 전 +54

      ғuňţċѧsє ţuċҡғѧяԀ he primarily lived in Baltimore which is why he associated with that city. I’ve actually been to his home there & it’s an eerie space. Visited his grave too & we had a brief reverence for him and left a small gift

    • @NickqtGaming
      @NickqtGaming 2 년 전 +15

      Well he was born in Boston, but died in Baltimore. So I think that makes it even better considering he was a dark figure that wrote even darker stories.

    • @chino3796
      @chino3796 2 년 전 +1

      Poe was a Bostonian. His old apartment is across the street from the Boston Common. It's a National landmark.

    • @theshape7214
      @theshape7214 2 년 전 +1

      I love Ryan

    • @anemxia9393
      @anemxia9393 2 년 전

      @@theshape7214 don’t we all?

  • @itsalaynnaguys
    @itsalaynnaguys 4 년 전 +1166

    “Was Poe truly tortured?” SHANE, HAVE YOU LITERALLY EVER READ ANY OF HIS WORKS? It’s pretty obvious my dude

    • @salenebrom6476
      @salenebrom6476 4 년 전 +2

      Laylayzr 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @AndysamBlack
      @AndysamBlack 4 년 전

      😂😂😂

    • @cheshiresmith1600
      @cheshiresmith1600 4 년 전 +4

      Silently screams in offended goth. 😂🤣 OMFG 😅😂🤣

    • @alexthomer2067
      @alexthomer2067 4 년 전 +13

      I mean Hozier’s songs are pretty dark but I hear he’s a chill dude. But yeah, it’s pretty well-known that Poe did not have the most stable of mindsets.

    • @AndysamBlack
      @AndysamBlack 4 년 전 +2

      @@alexthomer2067 i meaaaan, i do agree that people can write dark stuff without being tortured because fiction is fiction is fiction, BUT Hozier's darkness it's different to anything Poe style 😅 (obvs imo)

  • @mandapanda234
    @mandapanda234 3 년 전 +3

    I love Poe. I have the book of all his stories and poems. Even includes a few published letters he wrote. ❤

  • @saraB94
    @saraB94 2 년 전 +14

    Such a sad and short life, seems like he never catched a break.

  • @ftc5885
    @ftc5885 4 년 전 +676

    They protect
    They attack
    But most importantly.........
    The ghoul bois are back

  • @panqueque445
    @panqueque445 4 년 전 +1784

    "Grossly, she was his cousin" bruh
    "Even grosslier, she was half his age" BRUH

    • @squeakerplaysguitar2126
      @squeakerplaysguitar2126 4 년 전 +29

      I am going to start to use grosslier as a word

    • @theals9605
      @theals9605 4 년 전 +38

      It’s actually not as bad as people think. Apparently she had an awful home life and Edgar married her to save her from her abusive family. They didn’t do anything grossy in the marriage and they slept in separate rooms.

    • @JustAChinesePleb
      @JustAChinesePleb 4 년 전 +7

      @@theals9605 Oh, yea that makes sense. I thought it was weird because if he really was a nonce he wouldn't love or at least want that adult woman, who's name I can't remember lol

    • @zerotwosixty7416
      @zerotwosixty7416 4 년 전 +1

      She wasn’t half his age he was more older than just half

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 4 년 전 +1

      She was 13 bruuuuuh

  • @chrisballog3505
    @chrisballog3505 년 전 +2

    I love you guys. All the old and the new. Just tonight I was looking at the pictures you use for ppl in the past… and I’m just curious… who are the ppl you use??? Becuz I can’t find the ppl’s photos that look so current !

  • @iDrownedScream
    @iDrownedScream 년 전 +5

    I traced my heritage back to the Poe family tree from my mom's side. It's been wild learning about it. Despite knowing his poetry, I didn't really know much about them as a whole. Or even him. Just that his family came from Scottland.

  • @mayar5062
    @mayar5062 4 년 전 +2263

    Okay but if it makes anyone feel better, Poe and his wife/cousin never actually consummated the marriage. Based on records from him and other family members, it was more of a companionship thing.

    • @connorjohnson7457
      @connorjohnson7457 4 년 전 +242

      Maya S yup that’s true. He was adopted into my family. He was actually pretty conflicted about his relationship with her, as he was extremely close with her but also was in live with her. In the end however he mostly committed to a close friendship with her rather than loving her.

    • @sarag4972
      @sarag4972 4 년 전 +102

      it does make me feel a little bit better

    • @grimmswan142
      @grimmswan142 4 년 전 +50

      Somebody needs to tell Shane this!!

    • @annabellelee4692
      @annabellelee4692 4 년 전 +40

      #postmortem

    • @aswertyuiol
      @aswertyuiol 4 년 전 +130

      That does make me feel better. Shoutout to shane for wholeheartedly condemning it anyway

  • @camili5072
    @camili5072 4 년 전 +508

    For postmortem: Just thought you guys would like to know that there’s an unknown person who leaves a rose in the gutter where he was found every year on his birthday. No one has ever seen who it was.

    • @peachysandie
      @peachysandie 4 년 전 +31

      I thought it was his grave. I've heard about the annual roses, but I heard it's at his headstone.

    • @cometgravity
      @cometgravity 4 년 전 +16

      sorry that was me

    • @lizzydey2665
      @lizzydey2665 4 년 전 +34

      The watcher

    • @tingerines
      @tingerines 4 년 전 +41

      All Hail the Watcher.

    • @napatora
      @napatora 4 년 전 +5

      @@peachysandie it is at his grave

  • @james_7718
    @james_7718 2 년 전 +5

    "Your goal in your thirties is to look weird"
    I've never felt more deeply understood

  • @rockinraphael
    @rockinraphael 3 년 전 +4

    Whenever you are sad bc of something that you didn't get or a problem just remember this guy's story

  • @merseal9963
    @merseal9963 4 년 전 +2186

    Ryan: "ghosts appear in their house or where they died or-"
    Shane: "or wherever is convenient for the story. Got it."
    Is this also the trailer for the next season of Buzzfeed Unsolved Supernatural?

    • @NiessyaGolden25
      @NiessyaGolden25 4 년 전 +9

      Subcribe to the boys new youtube The watcher krplus.net/CircJf-FlToBNjuy9xG-i5A

  • @sin5796
    @sin5796 4 년 전 +13561

    PLEASE DO SOUTH KOREA'S CASE "THE FROG BOYS" THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR UNSOLVED CASES IN SOUTH KOREA (LIKE FOR THEM TO SEE) #postmortem

    • @i_like_barking7046
      @i_like_barking7046 4 년 전 +57

      Omg What A Coincidence I Have The same profile In My School!!

    • @Fiat_Multipla69
      @Fiat_Multipla69 4 년 전 +44

      @@i_like_barking7046 what?

    • @rumshahk7491
      @rumshahk7491 4 년 전 +68

      Oh gosh this case is so sad!! But i agree!! A video would be super great!!

    • @Seonnie
      @Seonnie 4 년 전 +85

      holy smokes, yes!!!! Please cover The Frog Boys, Ryan and Shane. That case needs to be talked about more.

    • @lizzie8974
      @lizzie8974 4 년 전 +11

      666 likes...

  • @h.haydon8044
    @h.haydon8044 2 년 전 +4

    I love how Ryan uses sentences, phrases from Poe in the script

  • @allium6150
    @allium6150 2 년 전 +3

    I got really happy when I saw this video- because I really love Edgar Allen Poe’s poems I’ve read a lot of them-

  • @rapnewsworldwide
    @rapnewsworldwide 4 년 전 +762

    Plot twist: Shane is a ghost trying to convince Ryan he isn’t real

  • @Livikyu
    @Livikyu 3 년 전 +5455

    "They married when he was 27 and she was 13"
    "Can i just say.... ... ...can't be doing that"
    I had to pause cos I was laughing so much

    • @LucyLioness100
      @LucyLioness100 3 년 전 +60

      Oh poor Shane 😂 I hope he knows that Jerry Lee Lewis did the same thing where he married his cousin (course that marriage did dissolve eventually) 😆

    • @andrewdeangelo1
      @andrewdeangelo1 3 년 전 +45

      @@LucyLioness100 well that was in the 20th century which is (by the times) much worse.

    • @Othehughmanatee
      @Othehughmanatee 3 년 전 +108

      “Even grossly-er” sent me out

    • @graemefarquharson465
      @graemefarquharson465 3 년 전 +6

      @@andrewdeangelo1 19th.

    • @andrewdeangelo1
      @andrewdeangelo1 3 년 전 +6

      @@graemefarquharson465 I was talking about Jerry Lee

  • @RocketRoketto
    @RocketRoketto 4 개월 전 +1

    I love Ryan's use of Poe's words in describing his death.