The Sneaky Plan to Subvert the Electoral College for the Next Election

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  • @CGPGrey
    @CGPGrey  3 년 전 +2742

    An update, sort of: krplus.net/bidio/c7OliWakZGrekqQ

    • @codyjames52
      @codyjames52 3 년 전 +14

      Hey Grey, Coke or Pepsi?

    • @witr
      @witr 3 년 전 +11

      wow its nothing

    • @MainakMandalTheOnlyOne
      @MainakMandalTheOnlyOne 3 년 전 +5

      Umm revisiting this to go back to where it made me revisit this... Whatte loop

    • @3bydacreekside
      @3bydacreekside 3 년 전 +1

      @@witr Hey! I like his videos

    • @lagseeing8341
      @lagseeing8341 3 년 전 +4

      This sounds more like a power by a group of people. Why would a state look outside their borders to decide who to vote on, what happens in other states are absolutely none of their business.

  • @belicose9
    @belicose9 4 년 전 +22415

    Hang on a second, Grey doesn’t own land?
    Unsubscribed.

    • @Ultra_DuDu
      @Ultra_DuDu 4 년 전 +296

      At least not at the times of the Founding Fathers.

    • @tk4073
      @tk4073 4 년 전 +702

      Yeah why should I listen to a non-land-owning fool

    • @netajithevar296
      @netajithevar296 4 년 전 +210

      Peasants!

    • @LeeRothstein
      @LeeRothstein 4 년 전 +157

      Grey, an American, lives in the UK where he's a university math prof.

    • @peksn
      @peksn 4 년 전 +50

      filthy peasant

  • @alvarodiaz2221
    @alvarodiaz2221 4 년 전 +6817

    "do you even own land, bro?"
    Never felt so owned by people hundreds of years ago

    • @toby7161
      @toby7161 4 년 전 +29

      Same

    • @jamesdavis9036
      @jamesdavis9036 4 년 전 +68

      So by that logic, farmers are the only people who should be able to vote.
      Well, then and the other people who own land, but I'm not exactly sure what specifically those other people are called, aside from just "land owners".

    • @alvarodiaz2221
      @alvarodiaz2221 4 년 전 +134

      @@jamesdavis9036 owning land a.k.a. owning property can be used to measure the power and influence of a person, I would even say that is even more valuable than owning the same value in money since the value of a property is much more stable than fiat money.

    • @odisdracul
      @odisdracul 4 년 전 +73

      @@jamesdavis9036 Being that the 16th amendment didn't become law until 1913. The majority of tax payers, were land owners. Few non-land owners paid taxes.

    • @biggerchris20
      @biggerchris20 4 년 전 +2

      Really!?! Taxes, so called ownership of property, human rights "non whites", privacy laws, Dude you been owned since way before you was born.

  • @foolishpotatoes3015
    @foolishpotatoes3015 3 년 전 +6810

    I love how in all these political videos gray makes the Supreme Court some group of gods that just have to deal with the whole country being run by children in suits

    • @judgment5090
      @judgment5090 2 년 전 +565

      I mean... it’s not entirely inaccurate

    • @foolishpotatoes3015
      @foolishpotatoes3015 2 년 전 +160

      and that's really fricking sad

    • @MrBenMcLean
      @MrBenMcLean 2 년 전 +67

      He does that because up until late 2020, his side controlled the Supreme Court. Now they don't, so expect his representation of the Supreme Court to change in future

    • @foolishpotatoes3015
      @foolishpotatoes3015 2 년 전 +304

      no he does that because funny

    • @tilenzupancmusic2294
      @tilenzupancmusic2294 2 년 전 +523

      @@MrBenMcLean you do realize that CGP is British, and thus does not have a side in the USA elections, right?

  • @f-35alightningii79
    @f-35alightningii79 3 년 전 +2888

    I like how even Rhode Island laughed at CGP Grey’s concern for the people from outside of the convention.

    • @eifbkcn
      @eifbkcn 3 년 전 +126

      It's entirely inaccurate. The reason that Rhode Island didn't attend the convention was because the government there was populist and was run by the common people. They felt the convention was a scam by the rich to reform the government in a way that would safeguard the interests if the upper class, so they decided to boycott the convention.

    • @macaroon_nuggets8008
      @macaroon_nuggets8008 3 년 전 +24

      @@eifbkcn Wait, are you arguing _for_ populism?

    • @alexrogers777
      @alexrogers777 2 년 전 +14

      @@macaroon_nuggets8008 Sounds like it 👍

    • @homosapien5156
      @homosapien5156 2 년 전 +22

      @@macaroon_nuggets8008 Looks like he doesn't know what the term populism represents.

    • @dragoncatgaming5481
      @dragoncatgaming5481 2 년 전 +74

      I don't see him arguing for or against it here, simply clarifying facts. Nothing about his tone implies either opinions in favor of or against populism. Just that Rhode Island didn't attend the convention because they were populist. Also seemingly agreeing with the original commenter.

  • @jameswoods4134
    @jameswoods4134 4 년 전 +6806

    As a land owning citizen, I reserve the right to win any argument by shaming the landless into silence, just as the Founding Fathers intended

    • @Phil9874
      @Phil9874 4 년 전 +278

      neh, sir I also have land and I challenge you to a duel of wits.

    • @screenvy
      @screenvy 4 년 전 +46

      Ah yes mob rule. Thanks James Woods

    • @gimmethegepgun
      @gimmethegepgun 4 년 전 +159

      Wits? Nah, don't need those.
      Which of you has more LAND? That's the important question.

    • @TheBelrick
      @TheBelrick 4 년 전 +6

      As a no provider of shared lunches i reserve the right to shame food owners into silence. Just as the Founding Fathers intended. now back to work bitch, i need cheeretohs for my oprah and Bernie promised me $$$ if i voted for him

    • @Gee-xb7rt
      @Gee-xb7rt 4 년 전 +28

      Do you own that land or does the bank? There is a difference. For most people its the latter.

  • @fernandobessa81
    @fernandobessa81 4 년 전 +5615

    That's just directly voting for the president with extra steps.

    • @gimmethegepgun
      @gimmethegepgun 4 년 전 +719

      Because it's way easier to get this done than to actually make it so the country directly votes for the president.

    • @homedepotindustrialfan936
      @homedepotindustrialfan936 4 년 전 +19

      Fernando Bessa Damn I was going to say this

    • @Aereto
      @Aereto 4 년 전 +82

      At which people may have started caring who are we voting for our state representatives thanks to Democrats going bonkers.

    • @daniel4647
      @daniel4647 4 년 전 +281

      Yes... That the whole point, hence it being a "back door". This was explained in cartoon form in the simplest possible way just now, come on man.

    • @lordpiranha382
      @lordpiranha382 4 년 전 +11

      Yes but also no
      It ultimately invalidates the electoral college by adding this amendment to the Constitution

  • @LavenderSystem69
    @LavenderSystem69 3 년 전 +85

    If you go back to the past and the founding fathers ask if you even own land, always say yes. They literally have no way of verifying it

    • @robertsmith-cj6gl
      @robertsmith-cj6gl 3 년 전 +2

      Everything here is controlled by the crown. No you do not own your property. Nor do you own your own life

    • @Polopony20.
      @Polopony20. 3 년 전 +6

      Or scare them by pulling out a phone Even though you don't have connection you will have power. scare them...

  • @gaminwatch8203
    @gaminwatch8203 년 전 +623

    It's pretty interesting how the ideas of state loyalty have changed over time. A lot of people forget that the original 13 colonies did NOT get along like they do today. In the early days of the US, people felt more loyalty to their state usually compared to the nation, and the states were seen as pretty much separate entities from each other in many regards. That's why we have the Electoral College and House/Senate systems like that; while no one would think to treat each state unequally now, in the early days this was a real concern, so we had this system to change it.

    • @Backonos
      @Backonos 년 전 +16

      except people do want to treat the states unequally if you dont agree with them they think federal funding should be with heald or if you do agree with them extra federal funding.
      The extra funding tactic is being used.

    • @brushylake4606
      @brushylake4606 년 전

      "Like they do today..." You mean when lockdown states were hoping for increased deaths for people in Florida for not participating in the national panic?

  • @Skip6235
    @Skip6235 4 년 전 +10391

    Official petition to change the official term “top secret” to “top sneaky”

    • @AnnikaOakinnA
      @AnnikaOakinnA 4 년 전 +198

      top sneakret

    • @Gia1911Logous
      @Gia1911Logous 4 년 전 +19

      Top Stalin

    • @TheBelrick
      @TheBelrick 4 년 전 +13

      Nancy Pelosi (D-Globalist, bureaucrat for life). Ämerican people cannot be trusted with the election.

    • @Skip6235
      @Skip6235 4 년 전 +11

      @@katowo6521 . . .it's not. That's the joke.

    • @Marijanus
      @Marijanus 4 년 전 +18

      They pulled a sneaky on the Electoral College.

  • @michaellavy3269
    @michaellavy3269 4 년 전 +2114

    2019: Do you even lift, bro?
    1787: Do you even own land, bro?

    • @drone_better7757
      @drone_better7757 4 년 전 +32

      Then why would we listen to you? Goodbye.

    • @drone_better7757
      @drone_better7757 4 년 전 +62

      4,000,000,000s B.C.: Do you even self-replicate, bro?

    • @jonatgan8546
      @jonatgan8546 4 년 전 +5

      more like 2012

    • @leiajiang7877
      @leiajiang7877 4 년 전

      And slaves

    • @bilguunsuvargakhairkhan5533
      @bilguunsuvargakhairkhan5533 4 년 전 +5

      Copy and paste of my reply to another comment:
      There is a certain idea for why that was. Basically, the reason why only landed citizens were allowed to vote/voice opinions is because they are the ones who were deemed to have a vested interest in the nation as a whole. Anyone without land would have no strings holding them back and leaving to a different nation after they have voted for a law/leader that would affect the nation far after they left. This is why certain people in the 1700s that live in areas where voting was more open really disliked college students for, since the vast majority of them would leave after influencing the politics of the place that would affect the place after they left. Long story short, people who own land, stay where their land is, and therefor can be trusted to look after the interests of the nation, as anything that is good for the nation, is good for their land.

  • @TheBluePhoenix008
    @TheBluePhoenix008 3 년 전 +722

    I like how the Supreme Court can snap and summon anyone they Desire.

  • @zcmini000
    @zcmini000 3 년 전 +791

    I don't think this is explained in any of Grey's electoral college videos: the number of electoral college votes is equal to the number of seats in the house of representatives and the number of seats in the Senate. That's where the "+2" comes from.

    • @theelderelk5582
      @theelderelk5582 3 년 전 +25

      He's a shill pushing partial information

    • @jjpaq
      @jjpaq 3 년 전 +218

      @@theelderelk5582 Not sure you know what a shill is. And are you actually surprised that a 6.5 minute video isn't a comprehensive guide to the American electoral system?
      You'd get more traction pointing out specific inaccuracies, if they exist.

    • @theelderelk5582
      @theelderelk5582 3 년 전 +33

      @@jjpaq it doesn't take much to say "those extra two votes are the two senate seats each state gets", rather than making it out to be just randomly added for no reason.
      It would make a 6.5 min vid into a 6.6 min vid

    • @jjpaq
      @jjpaq 3 년 전 +145

      @@theelderelk5582 That's a critique (and a fair one), but not an inaccuracy per se. Doesn't make him a "shill", either.

    • @happyfacefries
      @happyfacefries 3 년 전 +18

      @@theelderelk5582 then go make your own video

  • @DiogenesTheCynic.
    @DiogenesTheCynic. 4 년 전 +3130

    “Do you own land?”
    “No”
    *BEGONE*

    • @TheBelrick
      @TheBelrick 4 년 전 +48

      Universal suffrage brought down western nations. Prove me wrong

    • @ekkehard8
      @ekkehard8 4 년 전 +107

      @@TheBelrick
      You have the burden of proof. You have to provide an explanation for your view.

    • @jongyon7192p
      @jongyon7192p 4 년 전 +18

      *PEASANT*

    • @bennyevans123
      @bennyevans123 4 년 전 +53

      @@TheBelrick why does everyone who makes shitty arguments put the burden of proof on the person they are arguing with?

    • @RavemastaJ
      @RavemastaJ 4 년 전 +5

      Funny how they used to own land when doing so today is impossible. I wonder if these guys making these new laws had anything to do with that?

  • @notmocka
    @notmocka 4 년 전 +3887

    Things To Do Before Going Back In Time:
    -Consider paradoxical consequences of going back in time
    -Buying land
    -lunch

    • @jakx2ob
      @jakx2ob 4 년 전 +91

      How does _before going back in time_ even work?
      That's why time traveling must be outlawed, grammar is complicated enough as is.

    • @johannes4123
      @johannes4123 4 년 전 +47

      @@jakx2ob He said before GOING back in time, not ARRIVING back in time

    • @Krawurxus
      @Krawurxus 4 년 전 +19

      Bring a smartphone to get a pic of yourself drinking with the founding fathers

    • @RoyalFusilier
      @RoyalFusilier 4 년 전 +51

      Don't forget being a white man. If you don't do that step, then depending on where and when you land, things could get dicey fast.

    • @brotlowskyrgseg1018
      @brotlowskyrgseg1018 4 년 전 +24

      - get the smallpox vaccine
      - don't be black

  • @jamesticknor1134
    @jamesticknor1134 2 년 전 +294

    This inspired me to make the Electoral College my Political Science final paper. Wound up being ~19 pages. Fascinating video.

    • @josephwodarczyk977
      @josephwodarczyk977 2 년 전 +14

      That's awesome dude and I'm glad you found something that interested you so much!!!

  • @robbiestrong-morse730
    @robbiestrong-morse730 3 년 전 +481

    I like that each state has something to represent them. Guns for texas, cameras for California and Hollywood inside it, a flower necklace for Hawaii, and buffalo for Montana or Wyoming I can't tell.

  • @wrpro7495
    @wrpro7495 4 년 전 +5016

    This is cool, but I can’t trust you since you don’t own land

    • @tuckercarlson3127
      @tuckercarlson3127 4 년 전 +21

      he's a robot

    • @Unb3arablePain
      @Unb3arablePain 4 년 전 +32

      As I've become an adult this phrase went from, "that's a pretty shitty way to think" to, "you can hardly keep your dorm clean, how can I expect you to help me next weekend?"

    • @prim16
      @prim16 4 년 전 +54

      ​@This Guy Miko Oh my god. Can you actually stop trying to turn an unbiased and general video of a proposal for a reinterpreted voting system, into a direct political argument against Democrats, illegal immigrants, and even CGP Grey himself? You look ridiculous.

    • @takatamiyagawa5688
      @takatamiyagawa5688 4 년 전 +5

      In addition to purchasing the cheapest piece of land he could find, perhaps he could have pointed out that electors will pledge to vote for a particular candidate for president, and be selected by popular vote per-state. Hence, the electors will function more like rubber stamps, and less like intelligent agents who will take the month after election day to evaluate the candidates for president themselves. Thus, the president is chosen by the people, just in a slightly disproportionate way.

    • @hcms2890
      @hcms2890 4 년 전 +5

      @This Guy Miko You are wrong! the threat is not immigrants! the threat is the CCP. The chinese communist party is the worst and we should work to stop them not starving poor people looking for a better life

  • @collinshen3808
    @collinshen3808 3 년 전 +12382

    I feel like grey only represents everyone as a female stock figure so he can draw their icons of whatever they are representing on their skirts

    • @TheBioRules
      @TheBioRules 3 년 전 +1704

      "If it's good enough for sports it's good enough for skorts!"

    • @flurng
      @flurng 3 년 전 +1106

      Well, if you notice, all naval ships are referred to as female, and likewise, states tend to be represented as female as well, hence the skirts.

    • @happyfacefries
      @happyfacefries 3 년 전 +441

      What others have said before about countries using pronouns, but you don't think they aren't adorable? Those little pig tails!

    • @reasonnottheneed
      @reasonnottheneed 3 년 전 +75

      Tangential thought, does anybody still wear skirts these days? I'm not sure if I've ever seen someone wear one outside of a play or a wedding.

    • @happyfacefries
      @happyfacefries 3 년 전 +298

      @@reasonnottheneed are you serious??? Girls wear skirts all the time and not to just church. You've never heard of the maxi skirt or the cocktail dress??? What about mini skirts???

  • @dylankornberg4892
    @dylankornberg4892 2 년 전 +32

    1:30 I just noticed that in the room are only 12 stares, with Rhode Island standing outside the window staring angrily, because Rhode Island was against the constitution and was the last to ratify it.
    Grey just goes crazy with background details like this.

  • @salum6690
    @salum6690 2 년 전 +105

    Just as an update for the Nevadans out there:
    This plan passed in Nevada's state congress but was ultimately vetoed by Governor Steve Sisolak. Just thought I'd let you know.

  • @TheRisingDzn
    @TheRisingDzn 4 년 전 +1445

    *Point 4 gets satisfied*
    "Execute Order 66"

    • @nicholasloremann4741
      @nicholasloremann4741 4 년 전 +35

      It will be done my Lord

    • @CedarHunt
      @CedarHunt 4 년 전 +27

      Article 1, section 10: *Uno reverse card*

    • @1nsaniel
      @1nsaniel 4 년 전

      i think this is the new revolution use the power of the law against itself

    • @nicholasloremann4741
      @nicholasloremann4741 4 년 전

      Daniel my Lord is that legal?

    • @Stratelier
      @Stratelier 4 년 전 +21

      "The Electoral College will no longer be of any concern to us. I have just received word that the NPVIC has bypassed the College permanently. The last remnants of the Old Electorate have been swept away forever."
      "But that's impossible! How will the nation maintain presidential control without the bureaucracy?"
      "The People now have direct choice over their president. Fear will keep the local elections in line. Fear of the majority."

  • @Undeadspelldragon
    @Undeadspelldragon 4 년 전 +1404

    "Do you even own land?"
    "No"
    -"well, what state do you live in??"
    -"...England"
    -"gtfo"

    • @darknight10000
      @darknight10000 4 년 전 +17

      Doesn't Grey live in Ireland?

    • @jimkerman5675
      @jimkerman5675 4 년 전 +11

      This is purely undemocratic
      USA more like Undemocratic States Of America

    • @calibvr
      @calibvr 4 년 전 +16

      darknight10000 no he’s a traitor he has Irish citizenship but moved to Britain

    • @KanyeTheGayFish69
      @KanyeTheGayFish69 4 년 전 +1

      Jim Kerman clearly you haven’t studied us history. It’s not that way anymore

    • @alexh2947
      @alexh2947 4 년 전 +7

      @@calibvr how is he a traitor. In the EU he's allowed to do that. I think Ireland is a traitor because it left the United kingdom

  • @hubbletrubble7875
    @hubbletrubble7875 3 년 전 +110

    The thing is, the constitution was thee 'oops we messed up last time let's try to fix this' document. We used to go by the Articles of Confederation where the states were about as united as the EU is.

    • @Aletta_Fox
      @Aletta_Fox 3 년 전 +6

      Peak libertarianism

    • @eliwhite5548
      @eliwhite5548 3 년 전 +21

      Less so. The constitution was basically the EU + some military and taxation. States still had their own militias and the federal government could only tax interstate trade.

    • @eifbkcn
      @eifbkcn 2 년 전 +3

      The constitution was also illegal, and essentially a coup.

    • @WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq
      @WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq 2 년 전 +1

      @@eifbkcn South Koreas independence IS also illegal, and most of the countries history was of coups against whats now North Korea.
      If the Victor doesn't get the spoils, then we can at least be sure they don't go to the former empire

    • @WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq
      @WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq 2 년 전 +2

      @@eifbkcn Brittain was barely legal according too global law of the old world, with the old French mostly determining their legitimacy and what land they have the right to occupy.
      Republics recognize no overlords, so Brittain got big and the French got small. And then we start spreading constitional democracy, which allowed each Republic to recognize each other's sovereignty and then to actually work together without having to worry about invasion from the others

  • @8393Robertrex
    @8393Robertrex 3 년 전 +296

    Dude.
    Do you know how fucking hard it is to make this stuff so easy to listen to? I love this channel. Please never give up on it

  • @hordamis5651
    @hordamis5651 4 년 전 +2434

    I love how the Supreme Court looks so bored with the states BS.

    • @LucarioDoT
      @LucarioDoT 4 년 전 +106

      That's mostly because it is

    • @jamesgo8550
      @jamesgo8550 4 년 전 +2

      @Brayan Velez why ?

    • @robertbrown6879
      @robertbrown6879 4 년 전 +1

      @Matt Horkan Tell the Democrat Party. And the Republican Party as well.

    • @r.henryjr.1533
      @r.henryjr.1533 4 년 전

      Yes, that is the joke.

    • @luxborealis
      @luxborealis 4 년 전 +10

      Matt Horkan
      The problem is that you’re assuming that the NaPoVoCo would fail because it was not in the original intention of the Constitution. However, only three of the SCOTUS judges are originalists, the others are interpretationists. The case could very likely go to through unless some more judges die while the GOP still controls the Senate. The States have near-total freedom to dictate their own election laws, and at least on paper the states with representative or first past the post systems would not be disadvantaged by NaPoVoCo. The key issue is that the Republicans would be hugely disadvantaged by this since they almost never win the popular vote, but the GOP is not constitutionally protected; the US Constitution predates the parties and thus they are considered private citizen associations legally speaking. The Supreme Court cannot overtly act to protect the Republican Party from a Democratic federal government trying to enforce the popular vote unless the GOP can successfully argue it breaks their members’ constitutional rights as private citizens. Which ironically would force the Republicans to argue for the popular vote as a protected right on the state level.

  • @leokarpys5722
    @leokarpys5722 4 년 전 +1644

    “I used the electoral college to destroy the electoral college...”

  • @johngrave5554
    @johngrave5554 3 년 전 +71

    I love how NY is the state that is always shown as the most smug of them all LMAO.

  • @benediktheim2614
    @benediktheim2614 3 년 전 +107

    Nevada is boring. Can't they count faster or something

    • @generalobi-wankenobi2758
      @generalobi-wankenobi2758 3 년 전 +26

      how to count votes like nevada:
      step 1: count one vote
      step 2: get bored, claim you'll finish tomorrow
      step 3: repeat step one the next day

  • @andrewprice7721
    @andrewprice7721 4 년 전 +2821

    "The sneaky plan"
    Top 10 on trending
    No so sneaky anymore, eh Grey

    • @mervinhocsonart1921
      @mervinhocsonart1921 4 년 전 +72

      As informative (and humorous) this video was, I wonder how many people would be angry at Grey for "outing" their master plan. :P

    • @vanguard616
      @vanguard616 4 년 전 +8

      5th now

    • @andrewprice7721
      @andrewprice7721 4 년 전 +1

      @@vanguard616 so sneaky

    • @andrewprice7721
      @andrewprice7721 4 년 전 +37

      @Anthony Inciarrano I'm not uninformed. I just made a (lame) joke based off the tile and the popularity of the video.
      P.s. I'll gladly go read a book. Right after I finish reading the title

    • @pronumeral1446
      @pronumeral1446 4 년 전 +10

      @@mervinhocsonart1921 He's not really outing it. It's already public information. And Grey himself thinks the Electoral College is crap (he made a previous video explaining why he thinks it's terrible).

  • @utkarsharyan
    @utkarsharyan 4 년 전 +5621

    The only difference between a fortress and a prison is who controls the gates and which way the guns are pointing.

  • @rangertalksdogsgames7996

    I love the one state just yelling "How many states are in the future?!"

  • @rowboatcop4451
    @rowboatcop4451 3 년 전 +15

    I appreciate that Alaska has mittens

  • @TherapyForNarhwals
    @TherapyForNarhwals 4 년 전 +2585

    “Do you even own land?”
    “No...”
    “Then why would we listen to you, goodbye.”
    I choked on my sandwich

    • @freakymoejoe2
      @freakymoejoe2 4 년 전 +94

      Poor grey being bullied by little girls wearing state-flag dresses

    • @Avrysatos
      @Avrysatos 4 년 전 +10

      It's true though!

    • @cutchyacokov
      @cutchyacokov 4 년 전 +51

      "Grey... when a Founding Father asks you if you are a landowner, you say YES!"

    • @gimmethegepgun
      @gimmethegepgun 4 년 전 +2

      Why would you even eat while watching a CGP Grey video?
      You know you're going to choke.

    • @Joshuacowley
      @Joshuacowley 4 년 전 +2

      Michael Foti Why are you eating a sandwich so early in the morning?

  • @jlupus8804
    @jlupus8804 4 년 전 +1446

    “Do you even own land?”
    “...No.”
    That hit deep.

    • @u2befake149
      @u2befake149 4 년 전 +59

      Sir Mount not black people, or women, or indentured servants, or...

    • @amsb4dafunk406
      @amsb4dafunk406 4 년 전 +22

      U2be Fake
      Look at you,,,with
      all of them hysterrikal knowings.
      You'd make tens of dollars on Jeopardy.

    • @voltagedrop5899
      @voltagedrop5899 4 년 전 +23

      @@u2befake149 not one of those groups is mentally sound enough on average to deserve the privilege of voting and the founding fathers understood that. you should seriously consider taking your politically correct glasses off...

    • @Danny-xd1yh
      @Danny-xd1yh 4 년 전 +9

      He lives in the UK of course he doesn’t own land

    • @jbt-qu6lm
      @jbt-qu6lm 4 년 전 +32

      @@voltagedrop5899 So obviously you're one of the people who believe that women and nonwhites are like, neurologically inferior. There's no point arguing with you on this, given literally all of the science disagrees with you and you won't listen no matter what. But, I do have a question. Are you like, a bonehead? Maybe one of those conspiracy theorist types like Alex Jones? Perhaps a "Western Civilization" lover? Or even are you just a full-on raging neo-Nazi? I'm getting important statistics here about the reactionary lunatics who deny science here and every hyper-conservative with the intellectual maturity of a toddler is a vital data point. Please respond immediately

  • @RaidsEpicly
    @RaidsEpicly 2 년 전 +80

    There might be more to this constitutionally, but it seems pretty clearly legit: "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors" Like they could be having a hot dog eating contest to determine who gets to pick elector appointment

    • @quantumblauthor7300
      @quantumblauthor7300 2 년 전 +5

      Game of charades or a karaoke competition

    • @AKsLetsPlays
      @AKsLetsPlays 2 년 전 +2

      Matt Stonie for president!

    • @tz8785
      @tz8785 년 전 +2

      The state constitutions might have something to say about that as well.

    • @GuiSmith
      @GuiSmith 년 전

      @@tz8785 many do, but a majority just go with retired members of the winning party by tradition and political ease. It’s so that there’s less chance of faithless electors (who also are supposed to be part of this system too, but kind of aren’t these days and might receive some legal and party spite even when there’s no laws against them, but that basically means independents and third parties rarely if ever get electors even in proportional situations and makes an independent win quite unlikely).

  • @cloudynine6376
    @cloudynine6376 3 년 전 +75

    "You can't trust the people!"
    How can a statement be so true and yet so brave

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip 년 전 +5

      People really like direct democracy until they realize that centrism has gravity and voting in a plurality voting system means your vote is a coin toss.

    • @wesleywyndam-pryce5305
      @wesleywyndam-pryce5305 년 전

      it isn't...? its an example of what garbage people the founding fathers were.

    • @wesleywyndam-pryce5305
      @wesleywyndam-pryce5305 년 전 +2

      @@baronvonbeandip America is currently a plurality voting system

  • @TheReaper569
    @TheReaper569 4 년 전 +1545

    everytime in an argument from now on:
    "your point and argument sucks because you dont even own land"

    • @labrynianrebel
      @labrynianrebel 4 년 전 +11

      Well, I actually do own land so HA! Q.E.D.

    • @pingpong1138
      @pingpong1138 4 년 전 +15

      "I own land so my point is more valid" is like saying "I'm a specific minority so my point is more valid" today.

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 4 년 전 +5

      @@pingpong1138 but it is more valid, would you listen to a pilot or someone who write about being a pilot?

    • @dargondude2375
      @dargondude2375 4 년 전 +21

      @@pingpong1138 Not really, minorities have had their points dismissed for generations. The land owners have historically been rich people who have an obsessive compulsions to control everything.

    • @Numbers_Game
      @Numbers_Game 4 년 전 +12

      @@dargondude2375 and minorities deserve their point based on what? Most of them didn't even earn their right to vote and today are too incompetent to lead their own lives. You'll forgive me if I wouldn't trust them to find their way out of a paper bag, let alone make an educated decision when it comes to voting.

  • @bryceshinohara9270
    @bryceshinohara9270 4 년 전 +2808

    you saved yourself with those yellow and orange party colors

    • @professorfukyu744
      @professorfukyu744 4 년 전 +238

      because it doesnt matter. the whole thing is now a silly mess anyhow. Anyone looking forward to 'American Civil War: Part 2'?

    • @cake.
      @cake. 4 년 전 +150

      He always uses yellow and orange for party colors. He has been doing that for a long time now

    • @GyroCoder
      @GyroCoder 4 년 전 +5

      @@professorfukyu744 It will be a very unique way of turning 200 million humans into paste.

    • @Adraria8
      @Adraria8 4 년 전 +127

      Bryce Shinohara fucking yellowtards #orangepride

    • @rrteppo
      @rrteppo 4 년 전 +64

      What do you mean? everyone knows the Democrats have been the ones pushing for it because they control California and New York the 2 most populus states in the nation.

  • @ZeldaFan2004
    @ZeldaFan2004 년 전 +17

    My question though is... what happens if members of this plan don't follow through? Like they have enough members for it to go into effect and during the next election some members don't follow the nationwide majority? Is there a consequence? Because if it is true that states can cast their votes however they like, it sounds like there wouldn't be and if there isn't any consequence for not following through, then I see little chance of this plan actually working out in the end. Or, at least, not being a long term solution.

  • @cb-gill9423
    @cb-gill9423 3 년 전 +20

    CGP Grey is absolutely brilliant making videos to explain the most complex of ideas into entertaining, informative bites of information.
    Keep up the great work!!
    -
    Survivor of 2020 Elections

  • @cotramo6830
    @cotramo6830 3 년 전 +4464

    I love how *done* the Supreme Court is

    • @thomaswillard6267
      @thomaswillard6267 3 년 전 +419

      Congress: Loud and passionate people trying to get their way
      Senate: Established career politicians protecting their interests
      President: Frustrated by the lack of power given to the most powerful nan in the world
      Supreme Court: Nerds who are just fucking done with politicians and their bullshit

    • @Ace-uc5cj
      @Ace-uc5cj 3 년 전 +28

      Thomas Willard Senate is part of Congress tho, do you mean House of Representatives?

    • @jakecarpenter397
      @jakecarpenter397 3 년 전 +20

      Well it's not like they've been doing their job since any of the current justices have been appointed. They've been legislating since FDR, one of the primary problems in our current turmoil IMHO.

    • @Asdf-wf6en
      @Asdf-wf6en 3 년 전 +8

      I wonder if there is a way to subvert the Supreme Court too.

    • @StrazdasLT
      @StrazdasLT 3 년 전 +13

      @@Asdf-wf6en Sure there is. President appoints Supreme court Judges. If too many of them die in the same term the surpreme court will then be presidents yes-men. It certainly helps if the previuos president didnt appoint any and left more spaces to fill for this president too!

  • @BeastinlosersHD
    @BeastinlosersHD 4 년 전 +4327

    As a Texan, I love how the Texas character gets guns and a hat

    • @fakename287
      @fakename287 4 년 전 +159

      As it should be

    • @Redbikemaster
      @Redbikemaster 4 년 전 +95

      Agreed. As it should be.

    • @realbland
      @realbland 4 년 전 +60

      that's what Texas is

    • @oclone4796
      @oclone4796 4 년 전 +16

      Definitely as it should be

    • @JamieJRJames
      @JamieJRJames 4 년 전 +51

      And I am a fan, as a New Yorker, of how much of an asshole constitutional convention NY is. We are all assholes ;)

  • @allanpage
    @allanpage 2 년 전 +3

    Wow. How have I never stumbled across your videos before. Your humor and knowledge is great. Thanks for the real edutainment

  • @Just-aNerd
    @Just-aNerd 3 년 전 +9

    Omg. I just noticed Rhode Island is outside looking in during the part where Grey talks with the states during the drafting of the constitution.

  • @himagainstill
    @himagainstill 4 년 전 +1419

    Video: 6½ minutes
    Footnote: 43 minutes
    This is why we keep coming back.

    • @lidulkadut
      @lidulkadut 4 년 전 +5

      43 minutes?

    • @narata1541
      @narata1541 4 년 전 +8

      True. I've been going back to his older videos and reading the footnotes. It's so much! But I'm learning a lot more than with just the video.

    • @hwykng82
      @hwykng82 4 년 전

      I only happened to see the footnote in my recommended

    • @captainjules6033
      @captainjules6033 4 년 전 +7

      I’ve been doing a lot of research on the Gallipoli Campaign because I’m a historian doing a paper on it. I’ve found books that have entire halves of pages dedicated to just footnotes. Grey gets it.

  • @logic533
    @logic533 4 년 전 +1470

    “The sneaky plan”
    *295k views*

    • @B4R0N.
      @B4R0N. 4 년 전 +14

      And counting.

    • @jasonr.c.390
      @jasonr.c.390 4 년 전 +3

      Well, he gave them the information, let’s see if they can do something about it

    • @TheDRAGONFLITE
      @TheDRAGONFLITE 4 년 전 +16

      0.09% of the USA population

    • @ArgieGrit
      @ArgieGrit 4 년 전 +7

      Grey is a confirmed narc. He did the same with the law we don't talk about

    • @medexamtoolsdotcom
      @medexamtoolsdotcom 4 년 전

      640k views.... your comment shows as "3 hours ago".

  • @LeagusDaemon
    @LeagusDaemon 년 전 +12

    "Do you even own land?"
    "Yes, glad you asked. I actually own several NFTs for regions of the moon, Mars and asteroids orbiting our solar system."
    "A... what?"
    "NFTs; non-fungible tokens. It's basically a way to plant a flag on the thing you want, but without ever actually going there, and without anybody recognizing your ownership."
    "Sooo... you don't, own land... ?"
    "No :("

  • @smittymittyofficial
    @smittymittyofficial 2 년 전 +17

    Dear CGP Grey, please continue to have Wyoming ride a buffalo in your comics. It make us Wyomingites happy.
    From,
    A lifelong Wyomingite and fanatic viewer

  • @AlibifortheAfterlife
    @AlibifortheAfterlife 4 년 전 +3212

    "But not you, Puerto Rico. Come back when you're a state."
    Hey, at least Puerto Rico gets a mention. We don't even get brought up unless North Korea threatens us.

  • @wamsang7818
    @wamsang7818 3 년 전 +5983

    States: "The people? You can't trust the people!"
    That aged well

    • @Poppipower
      @Poppipower 3 년 전 +505

      I mean yea, that was the whole point of a republic in the first place. Elected officials probably are more informed than the regular person, so we trust them to represent us

    • @NuggetOG
      @NuggetOG 3 년 전 +76

      ahem ahem Karens ahem.

    • @wamsang7818
      @wamsang7818 3 년 전 +396

      @@Poppipower Not like we can trust them either...

    • @Poppipower
      @Poppipower 3 년 전 +110

      Samuel Wang shit you right

    • @madcio
      @madcio 3 년 전 +50

      Problem is that "college electors" is included in "people".

  • @malphone7940
    @malphone7940 3 년 전 +76

    1:55 I love how even when he's being factual and educational he still finds ways to make these videos amusing and humorous.

  • @computernerdtechman

    The problem with the "National Popular Vote Interstate Compact" is lets say you get enough states to sign on to pass the 270 vote majority total and the Compact goes into effect. What happens at the next census and some of the states who signed the compact lose Electoral votes and put it back down below 270?🤔🤔Does it automatically go back to the old system?

  • @Silamoth
    @Silamoth 4 년 전 +1930

    “Where is the Electoral College? You used it two elections ago.”
    “I used the Electoral College to destroy the Electoral College.”

    • @JuliusCaminus
      @JuliusCaminus 4 년 전 +112

      "In order to ensure our security and continuing stability, the Republic will be reorganized into the first Galactic Empire for a safe and secure society."

    • @drone_better7757
      @drone_better7757 4 년 전 +27

      @@JuliusCaminus We truly do live in a society.

    • @matthewvanburen6415
      @matthewvanburen6415 4 년 전 +9

      States forming a union without Federal approval is unconstitutional so...

    • @stanley1698
      @stanley1698 4 년 전 +7

      I love democracy.

    • @blackpowderuser373
      @blackpowderuser373 4 년 전 +9

      "It nearly... killed the votes. But the work is done. It always will be. I am... inevitable."

  • @sethharrington1796
    @sethharrington1796 4 년 전 +2165

    "Do you even own land" they say to the person that steeped out of a glowing portal from the future.

    • @kveeder3224
      @kveeder3224 4 년 전 +50

      Not to mention CGP Grey is British.

    • @LukaszGolowanow
      @LukaszGolowanow 3 년 전 +84

      @@kveeder3224 Irish.
      (He's actually American, but he does have Irish citizenship)

    • @kveeder3224
      @kveeder3224 3 년 전 +12

      @@LukaszGolowanow I thought he lived in London?

    • @LukaszGolowanow
      @LukaszGolowanow 3 년 전 +53

      @@kveeder3224 He does indeed live in London. But he's Irish-American

    • @uriargaman7241
      @uriargaman7241 3 년 전 +46

      @@kveeder3224 "Even though the Republic of Ireland is no longer a British dominion, it would not be treated as a foreign country for the purposes of British law."
      To make a long a story short, being an Irish citizen grants you British privileges.

  • @emtheslav2295
    @emtheslav2295 년 전 +11

    I did the math, and if you include 2016, roughly 1 in 12 elections, the winner loses. If you disregard 1824, it’s still 1 in 15. Who would play a game where 1 in 15 times, the winner would lose?

    • @Namath1000
      @Namath1000 년 전 +4

      In the World Series the team that scores the most runs doesn't always win. In bowling, the person who knocks down the most pins doesn't always win. In tennis, the player that wins the most games doesn't always win.

  • @DogWalkerBill
    @DogWalkerBill 2 년 전 +14

    The real problem is the number of House Reps was set at 435 back in 1910 when our population was only about 90 million. Thus, about 1 House Rep for every 200,000 people. Today we are a population of 328 million, and 435 House Reps results in 1 House Rep for every 754,000 people. (Much eroding everyone's "enfranchisement" in Congress and the EC!) If we had the same proportion today, (i to 200k) we would have about 1640 House Reps. Congress would be changed radically and so would the Electoral College, since there would be 1691 EC Electors! And it would all be perfectly constitutional!
    (I mean, the House of Representative is supposed to represent THE POPULTION OF TODAY! Right? And NOT the population of 1910!)

  • @tinypenguinhk
    @tinypenguinhk 4 년 전 +2052

    When I was a kid I thought the electoral college was a school teaching people how to vote

  • @munchinion
    @munchinion 4 년 전 +1807

    I think most people who oppose the electoral college are also frustrated by the fact that with a slight majority for one candidate in a given state, all electoral votes go toward that candidate. This makes the election extremely centralized around random “battleground states.” Also, this makes being a Republican in California or a democrat in Texas a futile prospect-what’s the point of even voting for your preferred non-state preferred candidate?

    • @stevenbass732
      @stevenbass732 4 년 전 +259

      That's the beauty of the Electoral College, it requires a candidate to actually work for the win.

    • @King_George_VI
      @King_George_VI 4 년 전 +205

      That’s why I strongly believe that a potentially better reform of the electoral college/vote is to go the way of Maine and Nebraska (if memory serves me right?) and allocate electoral votes proportionally based on the popular vote within the state. For example, let’s say in California the Democrat wins 60% of the vote and the Republican wins 40%. With California’s 55 electoral votes, the Democrat wins 33 electoral votes and the Republican wins 22.

    • @ninety_seven_97
      @ninety_seven_97 4 년 전 +207

      @@King_George_VI This encourages gerrymandering even more and does nothing to solve any of the overarching problems. The Maine/Nebraska system is the exact same as the current state-wide winner takes all system but on a smaller scale. You're still going to have votes thrown out and states that dont matter at all politically, or perhaps just districts that don't matter politically. Instead of making everyone matter, or even just a few states matter, you're moving that to districts and consolidating electoral power within arbitrarily defined areas. Who cares about the folks in Ohio as a whole then? They'd only care about Ohio's battleground districts. Who would care about anyone in Alabama or Mississippi? They have no battleground districts at all. Maryland is a solid 10 Dem votes even with this system, despite percents not being 100-0.
      Maine/Nebraska solution is not the solution to our problem, and this is coming from someone who lives within one of these battleground districts (KY-06).
      Tl:dr; The maine/nebraska system on a large scale does nothing to fix the issue and even exacerbates it in certain areas

    • @darken2417
      @darken2417 4 년 전 +58

      You forget that having it be a popular vote makes the Californian and Texan pointlessness problem even worse. its essentially the winner take all system everyone complains about when it comes to the electoral college. Ex: Candidate 1 gets 30% of vote. Candidate 2 gets 20% of vote. Candidate 3 gets 17% of vote. Candidates 4-7 get a collective 33% of the vote = Candidate 1 gets all the electoral college votes for that state. A state in which 70% of the state voted against the candidate and could all theoretically be of the other party.
      Look guy, if you want a system in which the smaller states get the proportional amount of power in government (meaning irrelevance) then abolish the republic and become an empire. Who knows you may even bring about a new era of peace and progress like Rome did. I'd be up for that but I highly doubt you would, your call. : p

    • @ninety_seven_97
      @ninety_seven_97 4 년 전 +93

      @@darken2417 You realize there is also something called ranked choice voting correct? And popular vote would mean the state issue is not an issue anymore, so I have no idea what you're even talking about now.

  • @FoenixRight
    @FoenixRight 3 년 전 +15

    Sometimes I rewatch this video just to hear CGP Grey say "NaPoVoInterCo." 😄

  • @GoneZombie
    @GoneZombie 3 년 전 +7

    I love how in every video depicting the Supreme Court, they always just look sooo over it.

  • @soldatox3019
    @soldatox3019 4 년 전 +887

    "Do you even own land?"
    I'm gonna use this every time I'm losing a debate

  • @ElDavido023
    @ElDavido023 4 년 전 +2781

    Thanos: "I used the Electoral College to Destroy the Electoral College"

  • @kipofthemany2213
    @kipofthemany2213 2 년 전 +33

    Gotta admit, the idea of this happening in my life time is both thrilling and terrifying

  • @pieman141
    @pieman141 2 년 전 +8

    A farmer living the middle of nowhere nebraska shouldn't have their vote be worth 5 times more than the vote of a person living in a city with a population of 500,000. Land doesn't vote.

    • @pieman141
      @pieman141 2 년 전 +6

      @@SeasoningTheObese Their background hardly matters, 1 vote should be worth 1 vote, no more, no less.

    • @josephwodarczyk977
      @josephwodarczyk977 2 년 전 +2

      @@SeasoningTheObese no person is more valuable than another.

  • @DBE_TheZek
    @DBE_TheZek 3 년 전 +2033

    “Do you even own land?”
    “No-“
    “Goodbye”

    • @JohnDangcilGeekWere
      @JohnDangcilGeekWere 3 년 전 +11

      Which state was that that threw him back too?

    • @JohnDangcilGeekWere
      @JohnDangcilGeekWere 3 년 전 +36

      I thiiink it’s new york. Which feels extra fitting for all the trouble with the boat race and islands. 🤣

    • @richardarriaga6271
      @richardarriaga6271 3 년 전 +1

      @AI Martins In a decade, Texas might be join the club.

    • @Yahhuaa
      @Yahhuaa 3 년 전 +1

      This non land owner. Pshaw. "Pshaw," I say!

    • @PliskinYT
      @PliskinYT 2 년 전

      @@JohnDangcilGeekWere New York

  • @Angel-sh7mn
    @Angel-sh7mn 4 년 전 +1225

    >Do you even own land?
    This should be the new "do you even lift, bro?"

  • @MichaelJPartyka
    @MichaelJPartyka 2 년 전 +11

    Something Grey leaves out: "No State shall, without the Consent of Congress...enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State...." (U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 10) So Congress has to sign off on the NaPoVoInterCo before it can go into effect. Only then would the Supreme Court have to weigh in.

    • @brushnit9212
      @brushnit9212 2 년 전 +6

      Yes, but its tricky because the courts have determined that states do have the right to tell electors how to vote. Therefor, once enough states agree they can theoretically burn the agreement and have their individual rules on electors be coincidence. Of course this brings in many other issues, but technically not impossible

  • @ManOfDuck
    @ManOfDuck 3 년 전 +1

    Just passed in colorado! Woot woot!

  • @--Paws--
    @--Paws-- 4 년 전 +685

    "Do you own land?", I will use this to win every argument from now on.

  • @yelsahblah3270
    @yelsahblah3270 4 년 전 +900

    "Do you even own land?"
    I laughed so hard.

    • @Tubeytime
      @Tubeytime 4 년 전 +10

      It's the "Do you even lift, bro?" of the political world.

    • @darioinfini
      @darioinfini 4 년 전 +5

      @@Tubeytime Do you even land, bro?

    • @darioinfini
      @darioinfini 4 년 전 +5

      @@jebblottin92 The implication was that if you owned land you had a vested interest in what happened to it. You weren't just a hired hand that could get up and move on down the road to some other farm or business. You were part of the long term fabric of the community, you paid property taxes for the upkeep of that community (before an income tax), and so you were a person that was allotted the right to weigh in on what happened to that community and how it was run.
      Contrasting that to those who would invite foreigners into the country who have no vested interest other than free benefits, and giving them the right to vote. How do you think that would turn out?

    • @darioinfini
      @darioinfini 4 년 전 +2

      Oh sorry, don't know Izzard so have no reference. Carry on then. ;)

    • @ethanlu2039
      @ethanlu2039 4 년 전 +2

      What is this? An affable, civilised, conversation in my YT?

  • @rasenche4562
    @rasenche4562 3 년 전 +9

    funny, i heard many in america who want to go for the popular vote.. and im here in the Netherlands wishing we had something like an electoral college

    • @JohFuchsluger
      @JohFuchsluger 3 년 전 +1

      Why? Serious question, why would you want a less representative method of voting?

    • @rasenche4562
      @rasenche4562 3 년 전 +7

      @@JohFuchsluger Because in it equalizes the representation more.. instead of just the city fokes because that's where the majority of people live. an city people tend to not know or care about the world outside of there city much.

    • @Ropetrick6
      @Ropetrick6 3 년 전 +7

      @@rasenche4562 But couldn't the inverse be true, where the people outside of the city don't know about life from inside the city? Or even care about it? The great equalizer is when everybody's vote is equivalent, but under the EC as it was intended, people's votes aren't equivalent. Not only that, but under the EC as intended, a ton of people aren't even going to be represented.

  • @TheBigGSN5
    @TheBigGSN5 3 년 전 +59

    The Constitution went from a living document to an undead one.

    • @Nviev
      @Nviev 3 년 전 +3

      What are you talking about? They using their rights as given by the constitution to vote how they want. (unless supreme court decides otherwise)

  • @edisonmoreland4339
    @edisonmoreland4339 4 년 전 +907

    The last 2% is the hardest to get, that’s why they leave it in the milk

  • @tonyginart6816
    @tonyginart6816 3 년 전 +3

    The main issue is that I don't see how this agreement is binding....
    A state can sign up for this but what happens if they just defect in the future, particularly when the population does not align with the national vote?

  • @cmilkau
    @cmilkau 년 전 +5

    There could be a soft version where if your state vote agrees with the national vote, all your EC votes go to that candidate, but if they disagree, your EC votes are split among both candidates proportionally to state votes. In theory, this would require all states to sign, but in practice, it would be very effective even with just a few states participating. And it's much easier to sign, in fact this policy is even undetectable until after several elections.

  • @itaybron
    @itaybron 4 년 전 +672

    pfft imagine not owning land *nervous sweating*

    • @randomcatmeow1394
      @randomcatmeow1394 4 년 전 +14

      I know right! *anxious laughter*

    • @nickblazer7658
      @nickblazer7658 4 년 전 +2

      It's honestly just obscene he can make those claims without land! *loosens shirt-collar*

  • @TheRibottoStudios
    @TheRibottoStudios 4 년 전 +1114

    I didn't realize how sassy AND unimpressed stick figures could look but when Future Grey tried to talk to the baby states about the EC, Grey's animator managed to make stick figures look both completely unimpressed at something and sassy AT THE SAME TIME lol

    • @AR15ORIGINAL
      @AR15ORIGINAL 4 년 전 +2

      What part of the video you talking about?

    • @quantum6637
      @quantum6637 4 년 전 +16

      Ace Coordinator Mary
      He doesn’t animate his videos anymore. He does the scripts, research, and everything else. But he has an animator now. I think the first video with the animator was Brexit, Briefly.

    • @BoMwarriorVlog
      @BoMwarriorVlog 4 년 전 +2

      Welcome to CGP Grey! 😃 Well educated, fun, and pretty fair in his presentations. 👍

    • @patternwhisperer4048
      @patternwhisperer4048 4 년 전 +1

      Didn't he want to hire an animator once for his videos...? Im sure he put up a contest once for that. Did anyone ever win that?

  • @GabrielJ.Fontenot
    @GabrielJ.Fontenot 3 년 전 +8

    “Do you even own land?”

  • @quantumblauthor7300
    @quantumblauthor7300 2 년 전 +5

    I saw this one on the ballot, I voted for it for the reason this vid gave: I want to see things fall apart in a new and fun and exciting way, as opposed to the old boring way they've been falling apart for a while now

    • @quantumblauthor7300
      @quantumblauthor7300 2 년 전 +5

      @@George_Taylor_ they're still falling apart the way they already have been, though.
      When this thing kicks in, the chaos will actually freshen up a bit

  • @xario2007
    @xario2007 4 년 전 +1395

    `"It survived for a thousand generations"? - Surely must be very short generations...

    • @MrGoatflakes
      @MrGoatflakes 4 년 전 +52

      I am the senate!

    • @andrewputnam2717
      @andrewputnam2717 4 년 전 +12

      Didn't Rome use a similar system

    • @MrGoatflakes
      @MrGoatflakes 4 년 전 +37

      It's a Star Wars meme

    • @timvanrijn8239
      @timvanrijn8239 4 년 전 +7

      @@andrewputnam2717 as the usa? No not at all

    • @DavidBarkland
      @DavidBarkland 4 년 전 +32

      Really depends on which time. Rome had a history of nearly 400 years _before_ becoming an empire. Throughout it's history it went from plutocratic oligarchy, to stratified democracy, to plutocratic democracy, to elected oligarchy, to not-so-elected stratified oligarchy, then for a while lots of people claimed to be in charge but no-one really was, then Ceasar said "you know what, military dictatorship sounds like a good idea".
      Of all those systems, I'd say the stratified democracy had _some_ similarities to the USA, such as regions appointing who is first-among-equals in the senate, the assembly being elected by the people, and the justice system not caring at all, but there are also significant differences, such as the senate being elected only by citizens of Rome (the city) itself, the votes being cast by-family rather than by-person, and votes being weighted by how much money the family had, and, of course, the first-among-equals of the senate was so unimportant that nobody cared who it was until Ceaser showed up and said "Military Dictatorship!"

  • @solarsonic7178
    @solarsonic7178 4 년 전 +324

    "I used the stones to destroy the stones"

    • @catalinavallecillo460
      @catalinavallecillo460 4 년 전

      I used the democracy to destroy the democracy

    • @Gia1911Logous
      @Gia1911Logous 4 년 전

      @@catalinavallecillo460 actually it's "I used the republic to destroy the republic"

  • @Writer_Productions_Map

    =The Current NaPoVoInterCo Status=
    Number of states that adopted: 15 + D.C.
    Number of states that are pending: 3 (Michigan, Pennsylvania & Texas)
    Number of votes in the Electoral College: 195
    Percentage of votes in the Electoral College: 72.2%
    Number of votes in the Electoral College IF the pending adoptions are passed: 269
    Percentage of votes in the Electoral College IF the pending adoptions are passed: 99,7% (approximately)

  • @ChonAudioEngineer
    @ChonAudioEngineer 3 년 전 +9

    Im puertorican and found funny the “not you puerto rico, come back when youre a state”... lol.... its true non the less. We dont get to vote for the president.

  • @edwardwilson8713
    @edwardwilson8713 3 년 전 +2161

    I love how he has Rhode Island outside when he travels back in time to the founding Father's meeting (Rhode Island was the only state to not participate btw)

    • @happyfacefries
      @happyfacefries 3 년 전 +70

      Omg, I didn't notice that!! He puts in so many clever things

    • @NagikunX
      @NagikunX 3 년 전 +9

      Good catch!

    • @onekerri1
      @onekerri1 3 년 전 +50

      There's a reason for that. Yes, it was the last of the 13 colonies to ratify the constitution because it wanted to be assured that the Bill of Rights would become part of the constitution. It made up for it though, because it was the first of the 13 colonies to renounce its allegiance to the british crown.

    • @jcskyknight2222
      @jcskyknight2222 3 년 전 +4

      @@onekerri1 "Made Up For It" - I still think they'd all be better off under our tea-drinking fist :P

    • @Nikapocalypse
      @Nikapocalypse 3 년 전 +18

      @@jcskyknight2222 Found The Spiffing Brit's alt account!

  • @HairJordan
    @HairJordan 4 년 전 +1157

    Came for the information, stayed for the argument between our founding fathers and modern time-traveling, non-land owning stick man

  • @noname-mw7oy
    @noname-mw7oy 3 년 전 +1

    5:30 I thought of this as soon as you mentioned the compact LMFAO. Can't wait for that show to begin haha.

  • @fabriciopainseph1620
    @fabriciopainseph1620 2 년 전 +2

    I love how the Alaska doll wears mittens.

  • @connorhealy3562
    @connorhealy3562 4 년 전 +1135

    Future Americans: “What happened to the Electoral College?”
    CGP Grey: “I used the college to destroy the college.”

    • @GamerFromJump
      @GamerFromJump 4 년 전 +11

      Connor Healy - Assuming America even exists and isn’t Mexico del Norte.

    • @seanmac1793
      @seanmac1793 4 년 전 +7

      I am the collage.

    • @dargondude2375
      @dargondude2375 4 년 전 +15

      @@GamerFromJump How would it become mexico del norte? Does mexico sponsor reigime change in the United States? Do they conquer it through military conquest? Does Mexico become the senate?

    • @MaxJey2
      @MaxJey2 4 년 전 +3

      Dargon Dude well... is either north México or south canada.

    • @joesmith701
      @joesmith701 4 년 전 +3

      @@MaxJey2 south Canada sounds more realistic as Mexico has way less power/Influence even compared to Canada. However I think since America has so many guns that even they would have a hard time taking over that it would just be a similar situation as the Civil war join one side of America as you would have America A and America B

  • @boyhenry1
    @boyhenry1 4 년 전 +913

    EC: You guys can vote however you want
    States: *However* however?
    EC, hesitant: yeah...

  • @jetthalverson7354
    @jetthalverson7354 2 년 전 +62

    I'm impressed by this video. I know that CGP is against the electoral college, yet he was still able to make a great video explaining this plan to subvert it without making either side look particularly "evil"
    Props to you Grey 👏

    • @Victor-sp5dh
      @Victor-sp5dh 년 전 +2

      @Just for playlists he made a video called “the trouble with the electoral college”

  • @ConnorCocoas
    @ConnorCocoas 3 년 전 +1

    Oh god the time travelling but got me, I had to subscribe after that

  • @kaiserslim2751
    @kaiserslim2751 4 년 전 +742

    I just like how bored the Supreme Court stick figure looks throughout the whole thing.

    • @mantissaga4795
      @mantissaga4795 4 년 전 +5

      It would actually be wilder than that. There won't just be US supreme court cases, there will be court cases in EVERY SINGLE one of the participating states because many of those state constitutions say troubling things like "the will of the people" (of that state). NPV goes directly against that and ignored the will fo the people of that state to, instead, bow to the will of NY and CA.

    • @Mollygan
      @Mollygan 4 년 전

      @@mantissaga4795 Why not just use direct ? That way the president is chosen by the people, and Conservatives will not be able to complain about CA and NY having to much influence, or Liberals about samaller states having too much influence compared to their population.

    • @itchyscientist0576
      @itchyscientist0576 4 년 전 +1

      FRED ALFREDO this isn’t a concern to me ( a conservative ), of the five most populous states three of the five voted Republican, this is a good thing for the Republicans.

    • @itchyscientist0576
      @itchyscientist0576 4 년 전 +1

      FRED ALFREDO this isn’t a concern to me ( a conservative ), of the five most populous states three of the five voted Republican, this is a good thing for the Republicans.

    • @Mollygan
      @Mollygan 4 년 전

      @@itchyscientist0576 I really don't care about Conservatives or Liberals, I just don't want candidates to only care (or at least pretend to care) abou a hand full of States, if the US had a direct vote every vote would count, not only swing States. Democrats would pay more attention to rural voters, and Republicans would pay more attention to the Big cities , not everyone is a farmer or a coal miner, and not everyone is a city Starbucks hipster.

  • @chuck2703
    @chuck2703 4 년 전 +768

    I'd like to replace all AI with CGPs voice.

    • @pyroduck
      @pyroduck 4 년 전 +1

      Luca god i want a gray-ps

    • @hamdy-man2237
      @hamdy-man2237 4 년 전

      Maybe it is 😉

    • @14OF12
      @14OF12 4 년 전

      No problem at All
      krplus.net/bidio/YNeKY6KHZZ6wq4I

    • @Sellsor
      @Sellsor 4 년 전

      @@14OF12 Wow that is insane!

    • @carlosmarcus3286
      @carlosmarcus3286 4 년 전

      Do you want the singularity, Luca? Because that's how you get the singularity...

  • @viniciushenriquepinheiroba1036

    I love that Texas has a cowboy hat and guns, Hawaii has a flower necklace and Wyoming is mounted on a bison.

  • @rubes3927
    @rubes3927 년 전 +2

    I love how you can always find Texas amongst the crowd 😂😂😂

  • @yoyu2567
    @yoyu2567 3 년 전 +2122

    This feels like how a civil war starts

    • @Zakjuh
      @Zakjuh 3 년 전 +280

      Considering the current situation, it's probably the perfect spark to really kick off that long awaited civil war.

    • @cockatoo010
      @cockatoo010 3 년 전 +161

      Well, the previous civil war did start because of the poutcome of an election, so it's not crazy

    • @donut_seed9813
      @donut_seed9813 3 년 전 +90

      prepare for the boogaloo

    • @otimo144
      @otimo144 3 년 전 +130

      @@Zakjuh Civil War 2? One side doesn't believe in weapons! More like Civil slaughter.

    • @4orange843
      @4orange843 3 년 전 +5

      @@ReptilianLepton ngl i thought of that but was unsure if it was in the constution or the articles of confederation

  • @eggmon420
    @eggmon420 3 년 전 +1659

    I love the animation of Grey just getting bullied by a bunch of little girls.

  • @MonkeyJedi99
    @MonkeyJedi99 년 전 +16

    The Electoral College probably made sense when counting votes and reporting those counts could take months.
    Now (barring idiocy) it takes days to a couple of weeks to count, and moments to report the results.
    -
    And for anyone who thinks the Electoral College is a genius idea, remember it came from the same minds that said Governors should select their state's senators. Oh, and that women, non-land owners, and humans who were property didn't get a vote.

  • @ardabaser1349
    @ardabaser1349 2 년 전 +17

    The US is non-democratic so we will make it democratic through non-democratic means. Huzzah!