How Maps Help Politicians Stay In Power

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  • 게시일 2020. 08. 31.
  • Both Democrats and Republicans are raising millions of dollars this election cycle to flip state legislatures and have an advantage in redistricting come 2021. Redistricting is the process mandated by the constitution to ensure fair representation as the population changes. When abused, this is called gerrymandering. These gerrymandered maps can discriminate on the basis of party, race or other pieces of identity politics. Watch the video to find out how gerrymandering works and why one expert called it "the biggest and boldest investment in modern American politics."
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  • @husseinnajm2182
    @husseinnajm2182 3 년 전 +101

    My dad told me this when I was like 10, he said in Africa we bribe officials to illegally do stuff, but in America they make a law legalizing whatever it is they wanted to do.

    • @rmoreno1826
      @rmoreno1826 3 년 전 +4

      what you describe is the same that happens in latin america.

  • @akmalhafiz8763
    @akmalhafiz8763 3 년 전 +153

    The US should promote democracy to itself before other countries

    • @CyberspacedLoner
      @CyberspacedLoner 3 년 전 +11

      ​@Digong DU30 the United States is an Oligarchy/Plutocracy, the founding fathers were slave owning landed nobility that wanted freedom from the English King, the United States was founded in 1776 as a Union of States/Commonwealths (former Colonies/Provinces of the British Empire) and a Republic, not a Democracy, but because of the influence of Radical Popular Progressive Movements (Communists and Workers Unions) in the 1930s and the 1960s that pushed the Democratic Party to the Left, the United States was mostly a Democracy for those brief decades, but in 1980 Conservative Republican Ronald Reagan was elected US President as a reactionary reaction to the turmoil of the 1960s and the 1970s, especially the African American Civil Rights Movement and Anti Vietnam War Movement, and as a reaction to the decrease in the ethnic european population of the US from a high point of 83 % around 1923 until 1960 to below 66 % today in 2020, that began with the Hart Celler Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 (1968) that was passed by the 2 chambers of the US Congress when both chambers had Democratic majorities, the Neo-Liberal Economic Policies were introduced during the Ronald Reagan Administration and are still in place today, economic inequality in the US are back at the levels of before the crash of the New York Stock Exchange in 1929 and the resulting Great Depression of the Economy, both Political Parties in the US are in favor of Liberal Economic Policies, the super rich influence (have infiltrated and taken over) politics (politicians and officials) through universities, think tanks, Super PACs, law firms, mass media, lobbying, etc., the only real difference are social values, either Socially Liberal or Socially Conservative.

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      @giannycabrera1610 3 년 전

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      @stefanronnie6047 2 년 전

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  • @DescartesRenegade
    @DescartesRenegade 3 년 전 +28

    US Government: 2 parties playing a game for power at the cost of American lives.

  • @jackaxe2235
    @jackaxe2235 3 년 전 +99

    "Greatest Democracy in the World" 🙄🙄🙄

    • @SuperPlayz
      @SuperPlayz 3 년 전 +4

      *Republic

    • @tekmon2640
      @tekmon2640 3 년 전 +7

      Churchill said "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the other ones."

    • @maa1649
      @maa1649 3 년 전 +2

      Hahaha 😂 its never been that. Its always been about doing what ever they can to get the upper hand, not playing fair, doing shady and questionable things to gain the upper hand.

  • @markserrano4586
    @markserrano4586 3 년 전 +47

    I have been saying that we don't live in a free country.

  • @Bryane430
    @Bryane430 3 년 전 +33

    Redistricting should be done by independent commissions!

    • @nickd2296
      @nickd2296 3 년 전 +1

      The democrat states use independent commissions. They shot themselves in the foot for doing it that way.

    • @Alexz_202
      @Alexz_202 2 년 전 +1

      @@nickd2296 yes they did, but it was the right thing to do

    • @sionnachmacbradaigh1010
      @sionnachmacbradaigh1010 2 년 전

      But the state's will never allow this and therefore, the system can never be fixed.

  • @wisaterhune9077
    @wisaterhune9077 3 년 전 +9

    This is also happening for schools. In one small suburban city, there are 3 different public high schools with different rankings that students would attend depending on where they live in that small city. The line drawn does not make sense. In fact, I once taught at a school that protested very hard to redraw their current lines and avoided giving other students opportunities to attend their schools because of race.

  • @MrJdebest
    @MrJdebest 3 년 전 +32

    U.S. politics are as sleazy as you find anywhere in the world. Cleaning up gerrymandering would be a good first step to a true democracy. Next getting Corporate bribes, I mean donations to be eliminated, with a cap on how much an individual can contribute. A days pay of average worker.

    • @MrJdebest
      @MrJdebest 3 년 전

      @VobisPacem Remember that " A thousand mile journey begins with one step" ; )

  • @XOPOIIIO
    @XOPOIIIO 3 년 전 +18

    Just count overall votes.

  • @yeungeddie
    @yeungeddie 3 년 전 +5

    Future Nostalgia is such a great album 🔥

  • @justinhorst2892
    @justinhorst2892 2 년 전 +3

    As a Republican in Maryland, I would love to see partisan gerrymandering end.

  • @worldofsports4426
    @worldofsports4426 3 년 전 +37

    I read „Germaning“ at first. Thougt: damn, they have a word for how we in Germany behave... oh nevermind.

    • @MissEmminchen
      @MissEmminchen 3 년 전 +1

      Sports & Business I thought the same haha

    • @RandomUser20130101
      @RandomUser20130101 3 년 전 +2

      David Letterman already created a word for German behavior: "Hitleriffic".

  • @andrepoiy1199
    @andrepoiy1199 3 년 전 +15

    Hmmm they say a lot about how Republicans gerrymander but never mentioned Democrat gerrymandering, one notable example being California before 2010

    • @theuglykwan
      @theuglykwan 3 년 전 +6

      They showed Maryland and Illinois. CA gerrymandering was collusion between Dems and Repubs. The people overturned it with a voter initiative.

    • @lamaripiazza5226
      @lamaripiazza5226 3 년 전

      Democrats do it to but republicans do it much more.

  • @MrAlexanderTheG8
    @MrAlexanderTheG8 3 년 전 +3

    Everyone should be Independent!! This would force politicians to pay attention to "You" not your personal data profile!! Plus state and local municipalities would be forced to have open elections! The two party system only helps those in power stay in power!!!!

  • @samuelfraser9199
    @samuelfraser9199 3 년 전 +1

    Imagine gerrymandering works out for the other party

  • @rajanrohan1150
    @rajanrohan1150 3 년 전 +2

    9:10 You misspelled Georgia

  • @jeffolsen9251
    @jeffolsen9251 3 년 전 +8

    Very interesting. Why is this going o. Its not legal

  • @jackbarbey
    @jackbarbey 3 년 전 +2

    Odds that the Fair Representation Act ever gets passed?

  • @MrInzeo
    @MrInzeo 3 년 전 +2

    Your right and it's very interesting. Both sides are doing it.

  • @SaadAlisArt
    @SaadAlisArt 3 년 전 +1

    Redistricting should be made by the independent commissions

  • @Lost-Orbz
    @Lost-Orbz 3 년 전 +2

    Democracy at it's finest. :D

  • @royboy1984
    @royboy1984 3 년 전 +1

    Why not use preexisting boundaries as zip codes, or county/city lines for these districts?🤔

  • @muhammadazfarfathullah4867

    How they can redraw the map in the first place? Why cant they just leave the district as it is?

    • @heatherswanson1664
      @heatherswanson1664 3 년 전 +3

      Population and demographic changes, they redraw it once every 10 years to reflect the current population

  • @TheAwesomes2104
    @TheAwesomes2104 2 년 전 +1

    The fact that both parties act in opposition to the will of the people whenever they can and it is convenient for them, only helps to show that neither of them are working for us. Both of our parties are corrupted by greedy psychopaths. The only difference being that one is louder about how racist and homophobic they are.

  • @cdubbs9739
    @cdubbs9739 3 년 전 +5

    What about ballot harvesting

  • @paulomartins1008
    @paulomartins1008 3 년 전 +1

    "Democracy"

  • @randallt9095
    @randallt9095 3 년 전 +1

    Voters should choose their politicians.. when politicians choose their voters, god help us

  • @bengheinrich7500
    @bengheinrich7500 3 년 전 +1

    Lets just have proportional representation in the House of Represenatives and state legislatures. No districts no gerrymandering. To prevent fragmentation and infighting their should be a 5% threshold for seats.

    • @theuglykwan
      @theuglykwan 3 년 전 +1

      They should get rid of state senates. Those are just duplication of the state house but with bigger districts.

    • @bengheinrich7500
      @bengheinrich7500 3 년 전

      @@theuglykwan Their needs to be an upper house though as a check to the lower house.

    • @theuglykwan
      @theuglykwan 3 년 전 +1

      @@bengheinrich7500 Nebraska is unicameral. For small states it probably isn't that big a deal. For larger states it might be desirable but the method of election should be different to create friction with the lower chamber, otherwise it's just duplicative.

  • @coasterexpert7501
    @coasterexpert7501 3 년 전

    Can you guys please add Virginia as a state that has a independent commission to draw congressional districts as one was approved in VA.

  • @nzshareman
    @nzshareman 3 년 전 +1

    Who came up with the term Gerymandering lol man u people in America are funny.

    • @mehtaverse
      @mehtaverse 3 년 전

      The term Gerrymandering is named after Massachusetts Governor Elbridge Gerry who was behind the redistricting of a Boston area district that looked liked a mythological Salamander. So it’s a portmanteau of Elbridge Gerry and Salamander.

  • @CaseyBurnsInvesting
    @CaseyBurnsInvesting 3 년 전 +1

    It works like a charm.

  • @possiblyadickhead6653

    This is so sad

  • @ruksarussam4960
    @ruksarussam4960 3 년 전 +3

    Home of the free "cough" "cough'

  • @1gr8chef123
    @1gr8chef123 3 년 전 +1

    when is cruising coming back????

  • @benjaminlehman3221
    @benjaminlehman3221 9 개월 전

    the problem with not allowing prisoners to vote is that if you disagree with someone; you just need to throw them in jail.

  • @FinancialShinanigan
    @FinancialShinanigan 3 년 전 +5

    How is this a thing??

  • @pstha4537
    @pstha4537 년 전

    how to fix it

  • @laurenwilkerson3966
    @laurenwilkerson3966 3 년 전 +4

    We need to switch to popular vote.

    • @jimhimes6451
      @jimhimes6451 3 년 전 +1

      Then, New York City and LA will elect the president and the rest of us will have nothing to say about it. The whole system is setup so the STATES elect the President, not a Popular vote. This way, everyone has a voice.

    • @seanthe100
      @seanthe100 3 년 전

      @@jimhimes6451 that's where the population is. If you're a better candidate you'll get the votes.

  • @danielcervantes4762

    Ultimately regardless of the maps drawn , it’s still up to the voices of the people .

  • @gnarly_charley
    @gnarly_charley 3 년 전 +1

    What about the reasoning behind the Republicans? Why not explain that?

    • @geraldmaxwell3277
      @geraldmaxwell3277 3 년 전 +3

      Both sides do it. Republicans aim to create a few districts that pack in minority voters in the cities that vote Democrat. Just look at Houston. In some instances, they also merge some rural areas likely to vote Democrat like the border areas of Texas with the surburbs of El Paso and San Antonio that are predominantly Republican, keeping that region Red.
      But Democrats are no better. In order to dilute the Republican vote of rural Illinois, the suburban districts are often attached to major urban areas as is the case with all the suburbs of Chicago ,which are White and heavily Republican being in districts that stretch right into the center of Chicago, diluting their vote with the heavily minority areas of West and South Side.
      Maryland was heavily gerrymandered by the Democrats and is only rivaled by the nonsense Republicans pulled in North Carolina.
      So it is not just Republicans. Democrats are just as bad. In fact, they have made no secret that New Mexico will be gerrymandered after the census.They are literally crowing about it.

    • @gnarly_charley
      @gnarly_charley 3 년 전

      @@geraldmaxwell3277 indeed. Both sides do it. We must not forget that they all use the same tactics. Lies, emotional manipulation, etc. We need to inform others so we can avoid extreme partisan politics like we see today

  • @cbedwell5541
    @cbedwell5541 3 년 전 +1

    try MMP, its great

    • @theuglykwan
      @theuglykwan 3 년 전

      They aren't like this because they don't know solutions. They are like this due to corruption and because they can.

  • @auro1986
    @auro1986 3 년 전 +1

    anthropology is big business

  • @iamadrianamos
    @iamadrianamos 6 개월 전

    America! Yeah! The land of the free….to manipulate the political map to suit whoever’s has the power at the time 😅

  • @Spacience
    @Spacience 3 년 전

    If you're having trouble explaining these concepts to your 8 year old child or you 88 year old mother try our board game: Berrymandering

  • @sionnachmacbradaigh1010

    Democrats should never have abandon corruption, they need to play by the same twisted rules as the GOP

  • @mikoajpietrzykowski6088

    Why am i watching this video?Can’t u just let people decide,so only people’ votes will count?Why making it so complex?Why u cant just have 1 election day when u decide your president?

  • @GreenAppelPie
    @GreenAppelPie 3 년 전 +1

    We learned this by 6th grade

  • @tonyzone8999
    @tonyzone8999 2 년 전

    What do u think dems are doing now

  • @ShidaiTaino
    @ShidaiTaino 3 년 전

    Well here I go to Spain

  • @FlorianMaeder
    @FlorianMaeder 3 년 전

    I've had it with those underwater interviews. Either finance some quality equipment for your pundits or have them record a clip that they send in. COVID has been around for a while now...

  • @Mexican00b
    @Mexican00b 3 년 전

    why dont you just count the votes? its better... just as fast... there is no such BS as this?
    Politicians: voting matters!
    Politicians: as long we want to tho!

  • @yeungeddie
    @yeungeddie 3 년 전

    Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now 🎶🔥

  • @CarsSupercars
    @CarsSupercars 3 년 전

    Facebook will fix it.

  • @Karmiangod
    @Karmiangod 3 년 전 +5

    This is the only chance Republicans have, well I mean I need this to happen so I can keep my job

  • @kevinzebrowski6766
    @kevinzebrowski6766 3 년 전 +1

    Imagine thinking any of this matters 😂

  • @user-pz5wv1bg9m
    @user-pz5wv1bg9m 3 년 전

    ГОУ кризис

  • @Sumitchand309
    @Sumitchand309 3 년 전 +2

    Jai Shree Ram 🙏

  • @pancakes3250
    @pancakes3250 3 년 전 +3

    The video didnt really explain how gerrymandering affects seating vrs non gerrymandering, for idiots like me. Also how exactly do you buy district map change, i dont know. This video is somewhat left bias, it provides example for republican wrong doing but not democrat. Lastly, what do we do, outlaw it? I guess.

    • @lrdofmusic
      @lrdofmusic 3 년 전 +9

      I think it seems like there is a somewhat left bias in the video because the majority of gerrymandering--at this time--is perpetrated by Republicans. The video does say that both parties do it, but right now it is mostly the Republican party. Democrats in New Jersey tried to solidify their majority in 2018 by redistricting but liberal grassroots organizations protested, since it is a threat to democracy regardless of whomever it benefits--you can read more about that here: www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/14/18140773/new-jersey-democrats-gerrymandering-2018
      www.nytimes.com/2018/12/13/nyregion/redistricting-new-jersey-democrats-republicans.html
      Note that those two sources--Vox and the NYT--are certainly left leaning (the NYT more so). But the journalism is still sound, in that they describe how NJ Democrats tried to gerrymander and the negative impact it could and would have.
      Gerrymandering works like this: say you have a geographic area-such as a state or county-that has 10 seats in the legislature (state, county, federal, etc). Each seat represents one district in this example, so we have 10 districts. Now lets say the districts are drawn along geographic lines, like blocks or cities or towns, etc. I think the example will work best with blocks, so that's what I'll use. Now, let's say the Democrats are redrawing the district maps. They can do away with the old way of just going by city blocks on a graph, and draw them such that even though everyone is in a district, most of the Republican voters are put into the same 3 districts. What ends up happening is that those three districts elect a Republican by a landslide. However, the other districts all have fewer Republicans in them, and as a result elect Democrats. Let's take it a step further by using percentages.
      Say our fictional district has 50% Democrat voters and 50% Republican. If the Republicans want to gerrymander, they can draw the maps such that 9% of blue voters (9% of the total, not 9% of the 50% which is 4.5%) and 1% of red voters are in districts 1, 2, and 3. 30% of the populace is in these areas, but they are heavily skewed with Democratic party voters--27% is in 3 districts. Now in the other districts they can draw the maps so that 3% or 4% of the district is blue, but 6% or 7% is red--meaning the district goes red, every time. So you have a populace that should be represented equally as 5 seats blue, 5 seats red, but they have 3 seats blue, 7 seats red. And they have a majority--both simple majority and 2/3rds majority.
      In practice, it's more complicated than that. And that is only one type of gerrymandering. But I hope this helped illustrate the concept.

    • @kb_100
      @kb_100 3 년 전 +2

      Pancakes Arnold Schwarzenegger explains gerrymandering clearly in this video.
      krplus.net/bidio/dZZ9oKV6pYmulWU

    • @pancakes3250
      @pancakes3250 3 년 전 +1

      @@kb_100 Wow. Arnold was great. Only one question, who decides how to draw districts?

    • @kb_100
      @kb_100 3 년 전 +2

      @@pancakes3250 as this video explains. In many states it's the state politicians who decide how the federal districts are drawn in their states. And they do this every 10 years. The last time was 2010 when Republicans won a lot of state seats and drew maps that favored them. Although the democrats did this in their states as well (MD for example).
      So the solution is to not allow politicians to draw district maps but instead have separate committee do it.

    • @pancakes3250
      @pancakes3250 3 년 전 +1

      @@kb_100 Thank you. Solution sounds good. Except who picks the committee. I take you solution and modify it. The committee is represented by population as a whole. If its more red, then more of the members, directly proportional, must be red. Until then, scrap the maps, and divide the district mathematically, geographically. At worst geometrically, straight lines. Thank you for replying.

  • @lenguyen1967
    @lenguyen1967 3 년 전 +3

    If I were an American citizen, I would vote for Joe Biden in 2020 as I'm so tired of seeing Trump talking nonsensical opinions on TV. Also, I'd like to see how Biden may fix gerrymandering.

    • @sne47
      @sne47 년 전

      This hasn’t aged well

  • @ibmtpx24
    @ibmtpx24 3 년 전

    Eliminate Electoral College and you won't have issues like this. Why keep something that doesn't work?

  • @Auschwitzsmellsnice

    Only the asian guy tried to stay impartial, but this clip is highly biased.

    • @warrendavis8582
      @warrendavis8582 3 년 전

      Lol it’s not bias republicans clearly have a history of cheating ... pretending to gloss over it doesn’t do justice to the story.

  • @erinsymone1645
    @erinsymone1645 3 년 전 +1

    I hate this narrator's voice... Something about it is just really distracting and makes the video hard to watch

  • @huskiefan06
    @huskiefan06 3 년 전 +5

    I don't understand why people that are in this country illegally would be counted in the the US Census data. If I were in Mexico illegally, I wouldn't demand to be counted in their census.

    • @iliatebenkov473
      @iliatebenkov473 3 년 전 +7

      Census is being used in very different places from retail (you need to know how many people live in specific area including illegal immigrants) to road upgrades( you need to know how many people use roads and roads are being used by everyone)

    • @huskiefan06
      @huskiefan06 3 년 전

      @@iliatebenkov473 I don't care. The majority of Illegal immigrants don't pay income taxes. Why should federal money be drained from districts with low illegal immigration towards districts with high illegal immigration? How is this fair again?

    • @iliatebenkov473
      @iliatebenkov473 3 년 전 +2

      @@huskiefan06 I'm not telling you that it's fair, I just answered your question on why they are being counted

    • @brandonburns5365
      @brandonburns5365 3 년 전 +1

      @@huskiefan06 is it fair for rural counties to include prison population as there own for the gain in gerrymandering and federal funding?

    • @huskiefan06
      @huskiefan06 3 년 전

      @@brandonburns5365 Perhaps not, but it's only 2.3 Million prison population vs 15-20 million illegal immigrants in the United States

  • @lu881
    @lu881 3 년 전 +2

    _"How the Republicans work"_

  • @travisshooks7374
    @travisshooks7374 3 년 전 +1

    Odd that all their references are msnbc. Let’s not pretend that democrats are innocent. Jerrymandering needs to stop.

  • @andrewmcintyre9722
    @andrewmcintyre9722 3 년 전 +1

    It starts with a politician that has no term limits and ends with 47 years of Sleepy Joe

  • @saulgoodman2018
    @saulgoodman2018 3 년 전 +2

    People can vote for who they want to.
    Redrawing maps doesn't say who you can and cant vote for.

    • @merrymachiavelli2041
      @merrymachiavelli2041 3 년 전 +2

      No, but it can make your vote essentially meaningless.

    • @saulgoodman2018
      @saulgoodman2018 3 년 전

      @@merrymachiavelli2041 Yes, they can vote for anyone. No one can tell you who to vote for.

    • @merrymachiavelli2041
      @merrymachiavelli2041 3 년 전 +2

      @@saulgoodman2018 Okay. Right now, I'm going to write down the name of my favorite politician, bury it in the ground and hope the elves make them win their next election.
      Doing that matters about as much as having a contrary vote in a heavily gerrymandered district. But hey, at least nobody can tell me not to!

    • @lu881
      @lu881 3 년 전 +2

      Way to support corruption.

  • @psp785
    @psp785 3 년 전 +3

    The donald 2020

  • @dylant8056
    @dylant8056 3 년 전 +4

    TRUMP 2020

    • @dylant8056
      @dylant8056 3 년 전 +1

      Luke Skywalker and you’re a Star Trek fan

    • @dylant8056
      @dylant8056 3 년 전 +2

      Luke Skywalker because Chewbacca is your profile picture