소스 코드
- 게시일 2020. 09. 21.
- The popularity and success of Tesla has proven there is demand for electric cars. Automakers are investing millions into an electric powered future. Last year, 143 new EV’s launched around the globe. Analysts predict record growth of EV sales in 2021, especially in Europe and China. But in the US, electric vehicles are less than 2% of autos sold annually. Several hurdles remain for the market to really take off and one of the biggest, is charging. CNBC explores the current state of electric charging and how automakers like Tesla, GM and companies like Chargepoint and Electrify America are adding charging infrastructure to increase electric vehicle adoption.
» Subscribe to CNBC: cnb.cx/SubscribeCNBC
» Subscribe to CNBC TV: cnb.cx/SubscribeCNBCtelevision
» Subscribe to CNBC Classic: cnb.cx/SubscribeCNBCclassic
About CNBC: From 'Wall Street' to 'Main Street' to award winning original documentaries and Reality TV series, CNBC has you covered. Experience special sneak peeks of your favorite shows, exclusive video and more.
Connect with CNBC News Online
Get the latest news: www.cnbc.com/
Follow CNBC on LinkedIn: cnb.cx/LinkedInCNBC
Follow CNBC News on Facebook: cnb.cx/LikeCNBC
Follow CNBC News on Twitter: cnb.cx/FollowCNBC
Follow CNBC News on Instagram: cnb.cx/InstagramCNBC
#CNBC
How Tesla, GM And Others Will Fix Electric Vehicle Range Anxiety - 자동차
![여기가 북한..? 자칫 잘못하면 잡혀간다는 연변 풀코스 여행 [연변1]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/FMU3SVh8BhU/mqdefault.jpg)
![[#예능연구소8K] RIIZE (라이즈) - Impossible FullCam | Show! MusicCore | MBC240420방송](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/JjY2WyP41Tk/mqdefault.jpg)
“You have to know how to plug them in.” It’s a huge hurdle. Instead of inserting a fuel nozzle, you insert an electric plug into a receptacle. Daunting challenge for most.
People switch phones and have the same issue with using them despite having the same general concept, so it’s a legitimate concern.
Hahahaha
@@DanLyndon Could you please stop with the whole "haha American dumb me euro very smart" bs, I've done tech support and can tell you first hand it isn't just Americans.
Lol
That guy had no information he was just talking no information 🤣
if only every manufacturers adopt a single standard of charging system
Already the case in Europe... even Tesla have to cater to a CCS plug. It's just the US that refuses to regulate its wall street darlings lol
We have a lot to learn from Europe and China.
@Long Rod von Hugendong Yeah, I feel that USB3 should be standard at this point
nah, that would be too sensible
@@CameronEly no we don't, America is more free because we have a smaller government
Tesla: *has open patent on chargers for companies to use*
Other EV manufacturers: no, I don’t think I will
Most others are following a public electrical standard. I expect the Japanese plug type chademo to be dumped first.
i make a video like his krplus.net/bidio/ps-Ml4WkiG65k4I
That's just dumb... why don't they make it harder for people to refuel their cars with gasoline using the same methods with gas stations making them exclusive??
Tesla may have an open patent but every other EV manufacturer has already standardized on a single plug it is just Tesla that hasn't switch over, because it wasn't their plug. (This is only in the US). Tesla is the Apple of charging. Everyone is on USB C and Tesla is hanging out with it's Lighting cable.
However that said Tesla is the largest EV seller so they might be able to force the market to go to their standard instead. But I think we might get government involvement at some point. I would hate to have a world where we have EV charging stations but only some work for your car, or we have charging stations with 50 cables 1 for each car.
Catsrules1 the difference here is, Tesla has much larger and standardized charging network as well as the fastest and most powerful chargers. Other companies are stuck on the older technologies when it comes to charging, so in fact, I would say Tesla is opposite of Apple in the sense that all these other car companies are stuck on “micro usb” when in the reality Tesla is the only company using “USB-C”. Tesla is the innovator here, and companies should be following Tesla’s lead, not the other way around🤷♂️
its funny how tesla can be a succesfull company by selling only electric cars,and the other car makers say its dificult to convert to electric future.
Yep, when you have billions invested in old style car factories it's surprising how it effects your view of electric cars.
Excuses and cope are always there when people/organizations want to maintain the status quo
@@helenlawson8426 When your own government is pumping dolars in a company that does all the shady buisness for them,then yea you can be succesful.And that agenda and propaganda that we all need to switch to EV cause the world will end,can only be sold to sheeps in US.
@@MrMarkopetrov Not quite sure what you're on about but one thing I will say is anyone who uses words like sheep has been online too much. :p
Regardless if you believe in man made climate change (it's true) the coming of electric vehicles is inevitability as they are better cars.
OK at the moment it is still early days with only a decade of anything like real investment in money and technology so not yet the real deal but getting close.
An electric motor from day one is a far more powerful, reliable and efficient than a combustion engine with far fewer parts and no noise or pollution.
The capacity/range and weight of the battery has been their only drawback but that is changing and the first 400-500 mile cars are starting to appear and will slowly come down in price to the point that by the end of this decade most people fearful of electric cars will look back and wish they bought one earlier.
Who says it's difficult? Almost every car brand is switching/adding electric and hybrids cars to their lineups.
For those who are familiar with the metric system:
At 2:38: "Tesla's Model S leads the industry with a range of 647 kilometers, while other manufacturers can be anywhere from 160 to 400 kilometers per charge. And Lucid Motors new EV sedan is expected to have a range of 832 kilometers."
At 3:36: "While most other companies are brand neutral and can charge any type of EV, there are three major types of charging. Level 1 and Level 2 are most common in homes, workplaces, and public charging areas. They charge between 3.2 to 32 kilometers of range per hour. DC fast charging or a level 3 can deliver 96 to 128 kilometers of range in roughly 20 minutes."
On screen at 3:40: "Level 1: 120-volt: 3.2-8 kilometers // Level 2: 240-volt: 16-32 kilometers // Level 3: 480-volt: 96 to 128 kilometers"
At 7:40: "The distance that we have between the sites, it's already about 112 kilometers on average. And already today we have 96 percent of Americans, they actually live in within 192 kilometers from our site. So we are young, actually, but we are growing fast."
At 11:25: "A study by the U.S. Department of Energy found electric vehicles could raise national power consumption by 38 percent by 2050. The amount of energy needed affects the cost for the customer to calculate the cost per kilometer of an EV depends on the battery type and the cost of energy."
At 12:09: "Paying by kilowatt hour is similar to paying by the liter at gas stations."
On screen at 13:37: "Battery percentage: 125 km, temperature: 11.7 °C"
A shoutout for #CNBC to switch to the metric system.
Thank you, kind sir!
How CNBC, CNN and others will fix metric system conversion anxiety.
Yes. I noticed. THEY are LYING TO YOU. Do the math. P=I x E.
many thanks
They're an American news company; They will not ditch our system anytime soon. However, I think they should have both unit types.
First of all, all charging stations should be standard for all electric cars.
oh really? how do you charge your phones then? mind if i put my usb cable into your fancy iphone?
@@pinkysweets lol thats one of few problems, but USB still USB it's standard the real problems is port of your phone. Charging should be easy like driving to gas station, unless you fill diesel into your Petrol car then you can only blame yourself.
@@pinkysweets should being the ideal word.
Like betamax and VHS, there will be a winner once 2 out of 3 large markets goes with one standard (US/china-asia/Eur
i make a video like his krplus.net/bidio/ps-Ml4WkiG65k4I
SO CNBS NOW PRETENDS THEY WERE TEAM EV'S FROM THE START. YEAH RIGHT
That was a speaker from GM.
i make a video like his krplus.net/bidio/ps-Ml4WkiG65k4I
CNBS Now that's a nice name
This needs more attention. Somebody should do "throwback thursday" on all the EV critics 5 years ago. The sheer number of negative articles and speculation towards efforts to save the earth because of powerful oil lobbyists
where did you get "CNBS" from?😂
thanks for u video but all model teslacan drive 500k by one charge?
In the UK non Tesla chargers you have to create an account before charging. They are trying to force brand loyalty but in reality it is a barrier to adoption of electric cars.
you have to use apple account with your iphone and people still buy iphones, this is non-issue
@@pinkysweets that's not exactly the same though is it. Imagine if your mobile network coverage for that iPhone relied on multiple different networks, and every time you wanted to utilise a new cell tower, you had to create an account and login to that brand's app to receive data. If you don't think that would get annoying without some way of making it more seemless, then I guess you're a more patient person than most
Many drivers already have fuel cards ie a gas payment account. How is that different from a public charger account
TacklingIgnorance that was a really respectable diss
Glad that there is always a super charger when I need them :)
I have owned and driven my Nissan LEAF (fully Electric Vehicle) since 2017. In my home city of San Antonio, TX, I noticed that there was a small but decent EV Charing Station infrastructure here. However in early 2019 I noticed that some of the charging stations were actually being shut down or removed. This concerned me yet thankfully Chargepoint installed their own EV stations in those places and many times they are free or simply cost $1 per hour of charge. I routinely "fill up" my EV on $2 of charge or in a few places with no cost at all. I strongly wish the US and my home state can use policy and government funds to bolster the slim EV charging station network. This will encourage more buyers of EV's, which by the way, have incredibly small maintenance costs; no oil changes, less moving parts, less to repair.
Capitalism will work it out better than the government.
@@h-community go shopping, work out, study, anything I can manage at shops nearby.
@@PackBjammin well yeah, you're right about that. Capitalism, please hurry up!
I can see 2 scenario's high-voltage direct DC charging at numbers similar to gas stations, or class 2 chargers so ubiquitous that they are at most parking spots so every time you park you can top off your charge for however long you're there be it 45 minutes or 4 hours. The only way the 2nd can work is if the utilities put up those chargers and they can talk to your car and just add it to your electric bill as if you're charging at home. If individual municipalities do this they'd have to make you pre-pay for a set amount of charge like a parking meter.
Just curious. Was my garage counted in the number of charging stations?
And how many of those gas pumps were in car owner garages?
For most EV owners, there will be a charger in their garage for everyday use. As for Tesla, there are enough charging stations to allow road trips to almost anywhere in the US (and there are more being built to account for the small areas that still need them). I have driven from NV to WI as well as CA and the GPS planned where to stop to recharge. The other EV manufacturers mostly depend on independent providers for road trip support.
BTW, even my grandkids figured out how to plug in the charging cable.
It’s just dumb that there’s not one standard for charging
Standards take a long time to develop and settle on. It will come.
In Europe CCS emerged as the standard, so there's hope that this system could standarize worldwide
@@CNM3 why internal combustion has diesel and gas with several grades. Why don't they go to one standard
There is one, it's called CCS only Tesla refuses to play along
@@CNM3 Doesn't have to take a long time. Sometimes it takes the shape of force. (think cellphone chargers) Or code readers in cars.
This guy doesn't know how to plug it in! 😅😅😅😂 Feels bad for his wife
i make a video like his krplus.net/bidio/ps-Ml4WkiG65k4I
Hail Satan
yah. lmao. put some fake fuzz around it. lmao. little pink button at the top- brown dot at the bottom- THEN he can figure it out. LMAO!!
I expect he knows how to plug that in
@@johniii8147 how
Great segment.
I would love to see more on this topic in the future.
Also re. charging stations - in suburbs (which is most of the US), you don't need more than a couple of charging stations as everyone can just charge at home. Most likely it will also be closer to the highway so people can just pop into town, charge up and go. For those around the city, they can just hop over to this if needed rarely or just charge at home.
In larger cities you will have need for more charging stations because people will park on the street or in public garages with charging stations there. What I see then is just Super charging stations along Interstates and places like say a large mall in the town/city along with destination chargers at hotels and other business areas.
"The range is with gas or even lower" - 14:25
Well, that's always been the case so far... lol. What a mistake to slip by quality control.
This had me confused as well.
The range doesn’t mean anything. It’s the charge time. People drive suv’s with a 250 mile range. It only takes five minutes to replenish the gas tank as opposed to all day of charging.
i make a video like his krplus.net/bidio/ps-Ml4WkiG65k4I
👌😍
They only ever take hours if you’re using a home charger and you want to go to 100%, if you’re using your car like you would every day, charging over night would still get you a full charge, but the last 20% of battery takes as long to fill as the first 80% most of the time, so on a road trip you could stop at a fast charger and add 200 miles of charge in 30 mins as long as you don’t try to fill your battery everytime you stop.
Hahaha, $21!? It's never cost me more than $10 to fully supercharge my Model 3. Guess we have cheap power in Texas.
I don't think I've ever paid more than $8
That $21 figure seems overly expensive. I'm wondering whether it's a mistake. With this price point, the difference between charging at home and at a charging station is too big.
@@HadrienLBB it's not a mistake. CNBC hates Tesla and wants them to fail so they create anti-tesla content as often as possible.
Wait until the California transplants vote in California utility policies.
i make a video like his krplus.net/bidio/ps-Ml4WkiG65k4I
I have gone electric and there is no looking back. There are so many benefits to having an electric vehicle. I would recommend anybody that is on the fence to take one out for a long test drive.
Why are you showing the discontinued and unavailable Volkswagen e-Golf in your charts?
@Hello Gerry how are you doing?
I can see buying Tesla in 5 or more years. Right now I am a shareholder of Tesla. I believe in Elon Musk's vision. Tesla is definitely a long term investment.
I'm going to buy the Tesla truck I got a pre-order. These people are paid off by the automotive companies and oil companies to give as much slanted information as possible if you care about the Earth by Tesla stock and buy a Tesla
@@JOEL6780 No thanks, is a Kia Soul EV for me. I'm not sure how I help the planet by buying Tesla stock. And I'm not sure how a big heavy car like a Tesla helps the planet more than a nice compact e-car like the Soul EV.
@@JOEL6780 - I own the stock already!
@@ScrapKing73 A 2019 Kia Soul EV has a curb weight of 3,289 lbs. A Tesla Model 3 Standard Range RWD has a curb weight of 3,552 lbs. Did you know there isn't that much difference in weight?
@@SDGreg You only responded to half my comment (and only the half that could make Tesla look better), as I mentioned both heavier and longer. A small difference in curb weight (7.4%) paired with a significant difference in car length = a significant combined difference. Even if the curb weight is only 7.4% lower, if you took a busy highway and lopped 7.4% off of all the cars it would be a significant difference to the wear and tear on that highway. Using your 2019 example, length is 4140mm vs 4700mm, so 12% shorter. Lop 12% off of all the cars on a busy highway, and you could fit a lot more cars in it, making much better use of public space. Ditto parking cars on a curb, you could fit more parked cars if they were all 12% shorter. So yes, these numbers add up. Width wasn't previously mentioned, but it's 1800mm vs. 2009mm, so the Kia is 10.4% narrower. Despite being shorter and narrower and lighter, it's boxy shape means it has more convenient internal space for my uses. So to answer your question, yes, I'm aware. :)
GM lol 😂 why cuz they bet it on Nicola which is nothing but a scam
brand recognition, GM doesn't really need Nicola's tech, they can make/buy their own but the name is the second best in the market right now
@@pinkysweets it really is'nt, maybe before the huge alligations
@@pinkysweets lucid has the second best name. Nikola is / has been a running gag for well over 2 years now.
Just wait till the klm range dies when your in a frozen winter traffic jam. Or when your battery over heats and catches on fire like GM Bolt.
[Nikola's founder has left the chat]
Lucid air too
Tesla already solved the issue for its owners. While GM and others are waiting for 3rd parties.
i make a video like his krplus.net/bidio/ps-Ml4WkiG65k4I
i make a video like his krplus.net/bidio/ps-Ml4WkiG65k4I
Shareholders expect GM to be profitable. Tesla does not have this problem.
In Europe, the ionity network is made up of multiple manufacturers, such as BMW, Daimler, Volkswagen, Hyundai, and some others.
@@yolo_burrito Tesla has shareholders who are just fine with their business model
the guy with a green background is the real person or just avatar?
AI taking over...
He looks like an AI bot trying to blend in with the crowd...
Green screen on the cheap
i make a video like his krplus.net/bidio/ps-Ml4WkiG65k4I
Deepfacelab noob.
11:53 in the video... in most states Tesla charges per minute. The cost is around 22 to 26 cents / minute. Charging slows as the battery fills, so I usually charge for 17-20 minutes... that’s $4.50 to $5 to get 200 miles in my battery. We charge at home each night.... our fuel costs are 40% of what our 2016 Honda Civic cost us to operate. We used to spend $250 a month on gas for a civic and Honda Fit... we now spend $110 on electric.
Most people do the same round trips most of the time....
So charge point stops can be planned...
And if you have a solar panel and batteries in your main residence even better...
It would be much easier to install the infrastructure if people installed slow chargers everywhere inside cities ... parking lots... parks... Malls .... Recreation places ... Everywhere .... It would be cheaper to install as it's just a home outlet ...
you know that home outlet is a 'slow charger' right?
You can use your home outlet to charge an EV, no need for extra places.
@@michaelkaster5058 yes I am but if they are everywhere inside cities people won't have range anxiety at all ..
Not sure if by 'slow charger' you mean Level 1 or Level 2. But Level 2 chargers would be perfect @ shopping, movies, zoos, restaurants, etc. - places you might spend an hour or 2, maybe more. For any public charger, you need to unplug once your battery is full. If not for etiquette's sake, then to avoid the 'squatting' fee for remaining connected. Having to watch your state of charge while trying to enjoy a movie would be a hassle. Better to slow charge and just recoup the miles you expended getting to your destination - and probably some extra miles for the return home.
Its true and worth considering especially on the grounds of cheaper installations for the city, where most of the time your vehicle will need to be idling.. on that thought wish these things have wireless charging like on smart phones these days.. 🕶
Why does the guy talking look like a deep fake
i make a video like his krplus.net/bidio/ps-Ml4WkiG65k4I
Damn bot invasion
@@wataman5669 n o
If you live in an apartment, isn't it possible through some simple wiring to install an electrical socket in the parking lot that would draw power from your apartment?
Probably not in an apartment. Condos are another matter, you might be able to put one in yourself.
I just did a 1300mi trip from the north coast to the south Central Valley in CA using nothing but EA and it all worked well. Spent no extra time to charge bc all the chargers were at places (retailers) that we wanted to stop at.
You home is a charging station!
32% of people in the US dont own a home, they rent so they cant really charge at home. Then the existing chargers, something like half are brand specific (tesla), then a lot are level 2 chargers. The amount of good, fast chargers for non Tesla vehicles is very low.
@@Bakerking3 He means the place WHERE YOU LIVE is your charging station.
Anshuman Nayak your reading comprehension needs work. People can’t charge at home if they don’t own a house and a lot of people don’t own a home.
? If you live in the city, like most people, you can't charge at home
@@Bakerking3 So you'll be buying a Tesla? See how genius is spelled "Elon"?
some of the ev chargers are at RV parks, and even a site where you can buy charging at peoples homes
In Norway where I live, apartment buildings is required by law to offer charging possibilities for inhabitants. The user must pay for the charger of course, but they cannot be denied charging at home
Yeah, this will never work in the USA.
I never seen a electric car where i live can you still charge into out lets?
Nikola is literally downhill all the way.. except on magic mountain in Canada where everyone rolls uphill.
Tesla's "Battery Day" will be announced later today - let's see if Tesla has something for everyone that will break the range anxiety..
The announcement will be just to entertain its investors. Lol
To have range anxiety is dumb as hell anyways. Most people drive there cars around town all the time meaning plenty of miles that a EV car can easily do. If someone wants to go out of town to another state they can use there second car that most households have anyways. Driving around town with the EV will save a ton of money over the long run.
David Ford ya 2'nd regrestration, 2'nd insurance, 2nd garage/parking spot...very practical
David Ford so that means for me to buy a Tesla, I have to buy an extra car. What kind of invest is that for the average Joe. Hahaha Tesla is just bullshitting people. Lol
Pedro Gomez Rodriguez Expect a $25K small Tesla vehicle by Dec 2023. Your big opinion is shallow on knowledge my man. But naysayers gonna naysay. Some people just can’t survive without something to hate. That you? Be honest now.
Your chart at time index 3:45 is close, but not quiiiiite right: the two on the left are the two J1772-standard AC charging plugs. The far-left one is the North American (more accurately, single-phase). It *can* operate at 240V. The second one from the left is the European version, or more specifically the multi-phase-power version.
Why do all the maps in the video show charging in Seligman Arizona when a search on Google shows nothing?
Range anxiety? The lowest end Tesla still gets more range than my ICE truck
How many charging stations are there vs gas stations?
Even my rav4 has more than a garbage tesla
You don’t need charging stations unless you go on a road trip because you charge at home. And actually my town has more charging stations than gas stations. You just don’t see them because they’re tucked into parking lots.
@@juliahello6673 There are plenty of people who live in Apartments and Condos who don't have charging stations at home...for a variety of reasons...that is a significant chunk of people...they also need to be taken care off...my condo board wants me to pay for installing a charging station in the parking lot and be self-responsible for no one else parking in that spot...no way that is going to happen...so I and others like myself will need charging stations outside of our property but close to it in order to charge on a daily basis...that currently doesn't exist.
@@juliahello6673 don't pretend you don't undertand the question. How many customers can the charging station make happy in a time unit, say an hour or better the rush hour itself. Pump can be speed up by using more employees, paying can be sped up by using card at the pump or allow round sum for cash, maybe even you may allow people to fill before you come back from the line inside.
But for EVs the problem is more problematic : reducing time means more tehnology (a type-1 or type 2 outlet is $1k, but a serious one is in the range of $50K), charging in the middle of the day may become very expensive and very polluting (you don't spend the unused energy produced at night. but you require more potentially polluting stations to be started during the day)
Considering how most people charge at home I’m surprised electric car with home charger combo deals aren’t all the rage.
Many car makers offer a home charger option. VW is offering this at a cut cost and many European governments offer a grant towards the install. Even with 240v as standard here, it's still slow (about 7kw charger). California should follow the solar panel mandate with a 22kw minimum outside plug.
i make a video like his krplus.net/bidio/ps-Ml4WkiG65k4I
i make a video like his krplus.net/bidio/ps-Ml4WkiG65k4I
I think every new home built should include a L2-charger port, as well as the device that allows you to use your car battery to power your home during a blackout. (Sorry, can't remember the technical term for either of those right now).
@@getoffamylan6844 The Ford lightning F-150 can power your house.
PG&E in california is now 51 cents per kWh peak and 43 cents off-peak, 5 times the cost anywhere else, the cost of electricity is now equal to buying gas at $6 a gallon for a car that gets 30 mpg, the reasons to switch to electric have evaporated in california.
How is electricity for those car batteries and chargers supplied?
Off the grid, like all other electricity.
The new gravity power feature from Nikola will prove to be a game changer. The other players will need to spend a huge amount on R&D to make the leap to this breakthrough.
But Nikola isnt looking too good right now
@@32BitLink he is sarcastic. Gravity power feature is basically what nikola did. Take the truck uphill, put it in N and let it roll down :)
In case you didn‘t notice, Nikola is a scam, about to disappear. The head rat already left the sinking ship...
Lol
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Remember when everyone laughed at Electric cars? Look at them now. All racing to catch up.
You are right this is a great effort
we've ordered the white S dual motor fsd while our tri motor cybertuck gets here. we have lots of solar & backup battery to charge them both at home..
(00:00) Introduction.
(01:30) An electric future.
(03:05) Building a charging network.
(09:18) Challenges.
(12:24) Catching up China and Europe.
I think Tesla nailed the tech from the start and everyone needs follow. High voltage AC with low amps. NOT expensive AC to DC with a huge plug and tons of resistance.
For example 128 KiloWatts = 32 amp x 4,000volts. So the transformers can simply ramp up/down the voltage to meet the demand. NOT have these crazy expensive AC-to-DC converters for each charger unit.
For home you can use your included Tesla mobile charger to handle up to 8 KW. And up to 11.5 KW with the dedicated wall charger. The complexity is inside the car, not in the charger.
huh? Superchargers provide DC power to the car, not 100% what you are meaning by this?
@@schnabs1234 Ah I misunderstood and based it all on the assumption that Superchargers are just scaled up home 240v AC chargers. I stand corrected, it is high voltage DC.
From what I just read, the Supercharger is basically a giant AC to DC converter just like the one in the car. Either way high voltage and low amps is the way to go.
I remember about 5 years ago, the Tesla supercharger station at the Culver City mall in LA was usually only half full with some Model S’s and Model X’s but ever since the Model 3 came out, there’s been a line around the block to get to it. Elon said he’s working on adding more here but if you don’t have your own charger, it’s a hassle.
WOWWWWWWW..... CLEAR AIR..NO GAS SMELL
Why are they so busy? Are there that many Tesla owners that can't charge at home, or is there something else going on?
@@getoffamylan6844 Good question. I would assume it's because the cost of living is so high here that most people live in apartments. Hence, they don't have the option to charge at home, so they need to charge at the closest Supercharger.
I drove from Long Island, NY, to Grand Canyon and Yellowstone, then back home… in my Model 3. No range anxiety at all… I think this debate was solved years ago.
Fascinating stuff! Especially the charging stations.
All ev vehicles should haVd same adopter for charging
Another wise they all are going to waste tons of money
Without success
The issue is American companies are all anti competition. The different adaptors are to prevent other companies cars to use them and force you to stay loyal to a certain brand
Ranveer singh Sangha My Tesla can charge from J1772 with an included adapter and also from Chademo fast chargers and Tesla chargers.
There should be a universal EV adapter. Federal government has to step in cause the market will always screw us.
If theres only 1 the manafacturer that makes the adopter is free to set any price it wants.
@@xlben10 I'd rather buy an adaptor which is slightly more expensive and have more options for charging!
These charging stations should partner with the super gas stations where people also buy food from (quik trip, racetrack, 7/11 you get it)
I respectfully disagree. People will be charging at grocery stores and restaurants and dentists offices, not at specific gas stations with nothing else to do while you wait. As a society we need to be ready for the job losses that will occur while gas stations become unnecessary.
Harmonization of production and price versus daytime of recommended charging will come in future, ...as night electricity tariff in the industry
GM- A 11% stake in Nikola. Hahahahhaa😂😂
An*
🍷😆
CNBC is not up to date about Nikola? 😂
GM- A 11% stake in Nikola. Hahahahhaa😂😂
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😎👌
Tesla's can handle 30-35miles/hour charging on a level 2, and although their supercharger networks are specifically engineered for their cars' batteries which is why they can achieve a full charge in under an hour, it would be nice if Tesla made them compatible with other EV's. Given that their overall mission is 'to accelerate the worlds transition into sustainable energy' its a shame they only offer charging infrastructure for their cars. Glad to see that the technology is developing more and more with each day!
The other companies/Government has only slowed this process. Tesla system if they just adopt it would fix the problem we face now
Fix charge times, fix EV pricing (make them cheaper), and increase the range. Only THEN will EVs become widely accepted.
Gas cars used to be expensive when they first came out. And gas stations weren’t even invented at the time.
Infrastructure and lower prices came later. Same thing will happen with EVs
No mention of 800v system?
Great publication, good analytics!...
80% of ev's are charged at home at night. How many ac outlets are in your house vs how much gas is in your house. So 80% of the infrastructure is in place plus location chargers and supercharger in the thousands.
More ac outlets than gas stations.
This all the way. $300 of parts and $100 labor got me a high power outlet in the garage that adds 25 miles of range per hour. I like to sleep for 6-8 hours. Even a common home outlet can add 3-4 miles of range per hour. Charging networks are not a concern 99% of the time if you have a driveway.
If you live in an apartment or condo then it gets more complicated.
Another problem is the TIME IT TAKES TO CHARGE. It's not like a gas car, you can fill up in minutes. With EVs it can be hours. What happened to the hydrogen car?
@@Chicago48 A high end EV charger only takes 20-30 minutes to refill an EV with good battery cooling. 10 minutes to pee, 10 minutes to stretch, and back on the road. Using abetterouteplanner for a 1200 mile trip half way across the US, I'm looking at 19.5 hours driving and 3h 22m of charging total. The longest stop is 30 minutes and most stops are 15-20 minutes. Give it a try for a long trip you've driven before and see if the numbers come out similar for you.
The issue is rate of charge
@@KTPurdy 250kw at peak rate adds about 1000 miles of range per hour of charging. Admittedly thats only when certain conditions are met, but as long as you have a bladder to empty then the charging rate is more than enough. Under what circumstances do you feel like its not fast enough?
You only need fast charging from a charging station when on a road trip,99% of the time your charging at home😀.
Exactly! I look forward to not having to rush to work early so I can use the Kroger fuel center near my job, which is 40 miles from home.
To say nothing of the fact that many people rent in places that do not have access to charging at home.
Yes but what about the army of people that own a car but no garage? If I could not charge my EV at home I would not consider buying one.
@@LewisLudwig You don't need a garage to charge the vehicle. You can 1) charge using a regular outlet, so run cable from car (presumably in your driveway) to an outdoor plug (level 1 as described in this video) which is a slow charge. or run cable to a level two installed charger ( basically same a dryer plug, could be outside or inside) where you run the same cable for a faster charge. Many people in my neighborhood charge their cars from their driveways.
@@gjpizzo yes I should have said that if you are able to charge your car overnight. You're right, that does not necessarily take a garage. But realize there are a lot of car owners who are in no position to charge their cars overnight. City dwellers who par their car overnight on the street and most apartment dwellers fall in this category. EVs have the potential to be a total pain in the a** for those people.
So you know, the solar panels on charging stations are nowhere near enough to compensate for even one 250kw charger, your charge still comes 98% from the grid
They're there to make you feel good about yourself instead of having a proper purpose, which is just sad. Companies will use every psychological trick to manipulate people.
If they have some kind of battery they could get ahead of the game while idle. Having said that: yes I would imagine a charger that shuts off every night would not be a great investment.
ikr! those solar panels may not generate enough electricity for a charge
My biggest problem is what is the coast per mile of electric travel ! I can see that at $3 per gal of gas for my truck it will cost me X to get to my destination ie 20 mpg X 60 ml. = 3 gal @ $3 pg = $9 so how much to go Sam distance in an electric car ???
I think it's usually about 1/3rd to 1/4th as much as gas, but I charge at home so I haven't done the math in a while.
The holy grail would be an EV that costs $20k, has a range of 500 to 600 miles and be fully charged in 5 minutes for $20
My model 3 charges 63% of a tank (200 miles) in 17 minutes at $0.26/minute.... $4.50.
Sadly the chinese are working on it and South Korea and Japan are not that far behind.
What $20k fossil car has a 600 mile range in the US? There isn’t one I can find. 3-400 miles is fine for the VAST majority of people. I’m not concerned about edge cases.
@@AnalogueKid2112 My 2018 Camry gets 470 miles on a full tank of gas in city streets. If I go on the highway from state to state, I get 550 to 600 miles per tank
@@AnalogueKid2112: my used VW Golf TDI has 480-500 miles per tank, and cost $9,000
the electric hummer is hilarious.
A Hummer is ridiculous, an electric one even more!
i make a video like his krplus.net/bidio/ps-Ml4WkiG65k4I
There are hige challenges with range when the temperature drops. Batteries typically lose 50% of their capacity at 0 degrees Fahrenheit. I also saw a video of it taking 2 hours to get a Tesla running in freezing weather. I often work up north where temperatures of - 40 is common; my truck can be driven off within 5 minutes.
Which leaves you wondering why electric cars are *so* popular in Norway, a country not known for a tropical climate?
@@Brian-om2hh There are a number of reasons. Short ranges between cities & recharging sites. The large subsidies paid for out of oil & gas revenue. We could something similar if we built Energy East & Northern Gateway to increase oil & gas revenue and channel that into increased electrical potential.
They should make roads as wireless chargers and with solar panels along the sides. No worries about finding a station, waiting for a charge, or very long trips. This obviously would cost a ton for the infrastructure though, but if phones can charge wirelessly then cars should be able to also. Starting with major highways should be first so that long range trips are viable and then work on secondary routes.
The fact that manufacturers aren’t using a universal charging standard is a deal breaker for me.
Just buy a Tesla and rang anxiety will go away with the SuperCharger stations - I own a Model S since 2017 with no problems going anywhere in CA
That’s gonna be your own country in the next 10 years
Felicitaciones por el programa, y la temática. Thank you
Standards for physical and electrical connectivity for a family of quick exchange power packs is the best way to go, as for owners living in high density multifamily high rise communities, especially in China, where individual charging setups and corn row charging parks are out of the question!
We need fast chargers that aren’t tied to a certain brand if electric vehicles are supposed to go mainstream
@kenneth delgado, when EVs become more mainstream, there will be a industry standard, that is how got the "Internet Protocols that allows PCs of all brands and all software to use the net.
Though Tesla will probably keep its network because there is a luxury involved in accessing it, but I do understand your point. Fortunately, I believe that most non-Tesla charging stations accept the same membership card. Chargepoint, EVgo, Electrify America, etc., are all part of an alliance called EZ Charge.
We need public transportation. We simply can't give everyone an EV. AND even if we could it's inefficient as hell
Atheist's Playground But US cities tend to have urban sprawl, which would probably be costly and inefficient to serve 100% with public transport, though suburbanites do have access to the inner cities (and other town centers) thanks to park-and-rides.
98.9% is the time you will be charging at home unless your going on to travel more than 300 miles.
This article is creating an image that EV’s, charging and infrastructure are scary and complex. I would not be surprised to find this article was written and sponsored by gas companies and ice car companies.
Charging at home in South Carolina costs 12c/kWh. A fill up is $9.
On the question of range anxiety even while living down here in East Texas with job related travel requirements. I have yet to experience any real “range anxiety” of any kind. First off one can’t travel the “Texas Regional Charging Network” without realizing that it’s massive with huge numbers of both stations and actual plug points. Besides I have never been able to drive between any of the major cities in Texas where I didn’t at lease stop once or twice for something to eat or for ice cream (after all Texas has the largest number of “Dardepending on the range between the cities. Note:
Electric cars are here and here to stay
not feeling this because trump could find a way to paralyze us in a heartbeat is everything is managed thru a few sources.
@@PHlophe Eventually, the free market will make electric cars the dominating force. They already have a lower cost of ownership, and as the price of electricity goes down and battery technology improves (and charging infrastructure is built), the choice will become all but obvious. Electric cars are still rapidly developing whereas gas vehicles are slowing down and reaching a ceiling.
@@PHlophe Elon will just tell him it will create 1000s of new jobs. Trump will change his mind then claim he single-handedly created thousands of jobs
You guys are talking like Trump is trying to ban electric cars. What’s he supposed to change his mind about?
Trump lives in Y'all's head rent free 😂😂😂😂 . Turn off CNN, tune out all the negativity, detox yourselves from all the political rhetoric and enjoy life a little !!!!
I have a Model 3 and it’s the best car I’ve ever owned. The charging network in the UK isn’t the best but I’ve had no issues relating to never having enough charge to get where I need to.
Thanks for a quite comprehensive overview.
FYI there were quite a few inaccuracies
@@gonzac36 Such as ...
As a 2020 Tesla Performance Model Y owner using Tesla's Gen 3 Wall Connector (Level 2) at home, I receive over 40 miles per hour on an 60 amp circuit providing 48 amps.
At the 3:51 min mark on your video, you state that you receive 10-20 miles per 1-hour of charge with a 240 volt level 2 charger. Level 2 charging can provide a wide range of charging (miles per hr) depending on the amount of amperage you're providing (30, 40, 50, 60) as I stated above.
At the 3:58 min mark on the video, you explain that level 3 chargers can provide 60-80 miles of range in roughly 20 minutes. Tesla's new V3 Superchargers can provide 75 miles of range in 5 minutes or 1,000 miles per hour which was stated on Tesla's website on March 6, 2019. I think you should differentiate between Tesla's Supercharger infrastructure and 3rd party charging stations.
Thank you!
The future is automatic charging such as the Volterio charging robot
I’ve had my Model 3 for 10 months. What range anxiety?
Range anxiety is oil company and ICE maker FUD. Unfortunately CNBC keeps repeating the FUD. Guess who pays their advertising bills? (Google: "the big lie technique.")
The reality is that any EV can easily meet the daily driving needs of 70+% of drivers.
Loanword Eggcorn I actually get range anxiety in my petrol car.
Another problem that isn’t addressed is the problem of taxing charging like how we tax fuel. Those taxes pay for road maintenance, and as more electric cars are driven there will be less fuel tax received, meaning even greater shortfalls in road budgets.
The question is will the power grid be able Handle the extra load? Its as if we are adding an extra major appliance like central air conditioning.
No extra load on the grid! It takes huge amounts of electricity to refine gasoline - HUGE. That energy is not used anymore but sent to EVs - net ZERO demand increase.
YES.. when US gas price are like here in EU like 1,6 Dollars for 1 L then the US will run to buy Electric car for the dear life.. LOL
its petrol over here not gas.
Lechiffresix six That’s why they call you guys petrolheads....
Yeah I have no idea why Tesla is an American company. The US will probably have cheap gas for the next ten years and we drive a lot more. There’s way more of a demand in other markets.
i make a video like his krplus.net/bidio/ps-Ml4WkiG65k4I
@@PHlophe gas stands for gasoline which includes petrol
Idk why shopping center parking lots aren’t full of ev chargers and solar panels shading the cars!?
Because the common person is terrified to their very core of any change that would ac benefit them
@@VS-et4pn from your mouth to the creators ears. there are some in the US that are so scared of change that they will sell their mother's to keep things the way they are.
$$$$$$$
They will be soon. It takes time: more cars means more chargers, more chargers mean more cars.
One problem is there is no standard plug for different car manufacture companies.
I wonder why hyundai Kona was not on there list ? its one of the best value/range on the market
The oil companies are in no rush
I wonder why
You charge in your home more than 95% of the time. You make it look like everyone is on vacation all the time.
They also said that not everyone has their own garage in the video
I agree...the charging networks will be mostly for those needing a boost but the majority of charging will be done at home.
you can use the Tesla supercharger network on non-Tesla EV's you just need an adapter. And have your EV rated for high-voltage recharge.
A lot of folks talk about how Range anxiety isn't a thing since every EV owner charges at home. But the video brings up a very important point, not everyone lives in a house. Apartment dwellers are out of luck for slow charging over night as apartment buildings and complexes do not offer any plug-in option. So the wide infrastructure is critical for getting renters to buy in. Grocery stores, gas stations, parks, offices, restaurants. and places where longer term parking occurs are critical.
There is more electric chargers than no. of gas stations! Each home can charge at least 1 car for a routine commute. That's is millions of chargers!
2.5 miles per hour of charge at 120vac. Lol
@@jeremygates51 Plug in when you get home car starts charging to make use of cheap overnight electricity, wake up next day to a fully fuelled car. If you have solar and a storage battery it is even cheaper.
@@helenlawson8426 how do you do that when you live in an apartment?
@@italiannica Anywhere there is an electricity supply a charger can be fitted, just a matter of cost and a will to make it all happen. Anywhere a car can park in a town or city a charging bollard can be fitted. Many people would probably benefit from sitting at a fast charger for half an hour than getting upset sitting in a traffic jam. I'm not going to pretend everything is perfect around EVs but that is more just the fact we are still in the early days of take up with only really a decade of development. The technology is now maturing and it is this next decade the electric car market should be judged on.
@@italiannica not everyone can install a gas station in their house 🏡, but everyone can install EV charging station. For comparison, isn't it easier to charge your phone/laptop at home than somewhere outside (if you didn't had electricity at home).
Its ok that Tesla is not sharing there charging stations (for now) so that other companies would force to make quality charging station which helps accelerate the death of range anxiety (because there’s more charging stations)
When it's 30 below in the winter here in Canada the last thing I want to do is stand out in the cold for 20-30 waiting for a battery to charge and at those temps the battery is going to useless in milage. Gas is here to stay for quite some time.
Yeah up to 50% loss. The only good thing is you can at least stay warm once they get on fire but avoid breathing in the toxic fumes.
Yes it is, until the oil companies consider it no longer viable to extract and refine it due to falling demand. Shell themselves have stated that we saw peak oil demand in 2018. Since then there has been a steady -albeit slow - decline in demand Worldwide.......
For most cases charging at home during night will be sufficient. Who need 400 miles range to drive to work or Walmart?
Charging is ready 1/2 the cost of gas
I have done a few long distance EV trips and the only reliable charging has been Tesla Super chargers... NO ONE ELSE has a good quality control or proper maintenance. NEVER go to a nission dealer for charging.... EVERY single one I have gone too has had all chargers broken... Nisson dealers hate the EVs...
Good piece, although the DC charging speeds for Teslas aren't correct. Typical speeds are 100-140 KW/H, so a 50 KW/H-200 mile charge takes about 25 minutes. Also, home charging at 240V is at 29-44 MPH.
@Hello Dan how are you doing?
4:25 This guy is English, but said "garage" the American way. Interesting. Maybe he's been living in the US for a while.