The Green Knight (Dead Meat Podcast

Chelsea: She's wearing green, so we know she's up to something shady.
Also Chelsea: Wearing green.

I love how they apologize *every time* they do a movie that’s not quite horror, and yet *every time* we fans say “It’s all good!” We just love hearing them chatting about stuff. :)
Their eagerness to please is so sweet.

For me the scenes with the Lord and Lady in the castle were extremely suspenseful, because it reminded me of stories of heroes spending too long in the Faerie Realms. The castle has a very large Library, extremely rare in the Middle Ages outside of a monastery, there's a beautiful woman who looks exactly like his lover back home, all temptations. The talk of rot and decay to me suggests the fact that no one in this house is human as they don't age, and that time maybe moves differently here so that he misses his appointment at Christmas Day.

Idk if anyone has mentioned it yet, but the "jittering" effect Chelsea is talking about when the camera spins to show how Gawain could have died is a time lapse effect. If you look closely you'll see moss and flowers grow and shrink as the camera passes....at least I think that's the case 😅

I would love to see a podcast episode devoted to American psycho.

To answer James’ question, in most legends I’ve seen, Gawain is mortally wounded by Lancelot during The Strife of Camblin and dies

I loved hearing Chelsea talk so passionately about the movie! Her take on everything was very entertaining!

I actually read the book “Sir Gawain and the Green Knight” in 9th grade in late 2019 early 2020 when we were doing a “hero’s journey” project so I was excited to hear about this movie but I didn’t think you would talk about it on the podcast 🤺🗡⚔️

"Dude are you sure about this?" Chelsea as Gandalf

The Costumes 💀. I'm convinced this movie was an excuse for everyone to caress Dev Patel's face.

Oh, a thing: the whole game thing is actually kind of skewed. The game is to strike the Green Knight with his weapon, but get stricken back with the same blow in a year's time. So, Arthur does go "ah, yes, kill our boi" but no one thinks "ah, yes, use the other weapon, that holly branch, and just bap him across the noggin". XD

That thing about James just instinctively *needing* a strict canon and being driven away by ambiguity goes a long way towards explaining why so much of geek culture is the way it is, and some arguments I've had online that have been *baffling* until now. The idea of that just being a way a person could be wired - despite strict canons being much rarer in the world than ambiguity - is a thing I had gone through twenty six years without recognizing.

The unexpected “giant woman” reference made me briefly question what podcast I was actually listening to.

Overly Sarcastic Productions did a few videos on King Aurther and his knights that i think gives good back ground on Gawain and The Green Knight for people who need a quick rundown for the movie.

Chelsea looks so beautiful im genuinely gonna cry 🥺 i love my horror parents

So happy to have a podcast again! Can't wait to get off work so I can watch more that 15-30 minutes at a time. Thanks Chelsea!! (And James :-) )

Their cosplays are really on point in this episode

OK i am not gonna lie, i love their relationship :) they generally enjoy talking and they don't feel cheesy and fake.

Yes! So glad you tackled this one. What a beautiful movie.

This movie is straight up Scenery Porn, so beautiful. Kudos to the set designers and location scouts

Good morrow Lord and Lady Dead Meat

I'm so thankful you guys covered this and helped provide more context/analyses of The Green Knight because it helps me appreciate the effort put in, and just thankful for hearing you two discuss things in general because it helps me reevaluate these things (for example the Lake Mungo episode). Also goes without saying I'm thankful to have the podcast back!

This is the first podcast of yours that I decided to view and I am so glad I did! Love the dynamic between the two of you, both of you seem to be well educated and the discussion was great.

always love you two talking about any subject :) and Chelsea, the dress and matching eyeshadow are on pointe!

Green Knight:
* swats Gawain*
We good, mane :)

nothing gets me more excited than when i get tue notification that another podcast has been posted!!! you guys get me through doing my school work! love you guys

LOVE these podcasts, your voices are so soothing and are legit a comfort blanket for me

MOVIES REVIEWS WITH YOU TWO ARE BACK! These are my favorites!!

I originally only listened to this episode but I'm back because I wanted to see the costumes. Love the commitment to the episode and also James' hair looks so good down! It fits the look very well. And Chelsea is on point as always, we stan a costuming queen. You guys are great

Perfect timing for this podcast, I just watched it last night and it was amazing

Just got back from a long day at work to see that this has been unloaded! I saw the teaser on twitter and I'm so excited. Happy (belated) welcome back episode!

Horror, James and Chelsea, and an Arthurian movie review. Literally everything I love in one podcast.
P.S. I LOVE Chelsea's dress, she did an amazing job, and she looks beautiful

SO happy that you guys liked the movie! My husband and I were absolutely -enchanted- by this film.

Just finished it last night. Loved it.

Love your content!! It's so well produced. Stay safe everyone 🌞🌞

I just found out the podcast was back! I'm so excited. I missed you two.

I’m sooo happy the podcast is back. I joined James Patreon after you all went on a break bc I needed more content from my favorite channel! Lol

The triumphant return! I’m so excited for this episode.

One of the the things that got me interested about Greek Mythology books from Scholastic is that the spine had non fiction written on them. Dev Patel has come a long way since the tv show Skins. Loved the way they presented a Camelot that was realistic with a sense of faded glory. The way it presented his trials was interesting because he really did feel like an everyman with the potential of greatness thrust upon him. The version of the story I knew was a bit more chaste but the parts they modernized work for the story they were tell and there is a lot left to the viewers interpretation. The removing of the girdle and the head falling off made we think of Tales For The Midnight Hour. Great work as usual y'all and looking forward to the review of the new movie next week. B~)

Wasn't super into The Green Knight trailer but you guys definitely convinced me to watch this now. Love the outfits too!

The wordless section at the end was just so stunning. I keep thinking about it.

I missed my favorite podcast! Welcome back, Chelsea!

Glad you guys loved the movie, it was definitely one of my favorites of the year too!

Finally got around to watching The Green Knight; that shit rocked! The best part about watching a film thats been covered on the channel is finally being able to go back and watch these lovely folks talk about it!

I LOVE this movie. Saw it twice and it's easily my favorite movie of the year (so far). It felt a lot like the second half of John Boorman's 1981 masterpiece, Excalibur, when Percival is searching for the grail. Same vibes. I LOVE it

Even though I'm watching this without having watched the film first, I'm still super excited to see this. Also love the cosplay, the reason I watch the show on youtube.

I love the podcast you guys are amazing so glad to hear your opinion on movies specialy when i don’t have the time to watch the movie and really happy the podcast is back. Keep up the good work. You are both amazing

I honestly have not stopped thinking about this movie since I saw it weeks ago, and I've been excited to hear your thoughts about it for equally as long.

I was so excited to see you guys discuss this movie. This was the first film I saw in theaters "post" pandemic and, it was a feast for the eyes.

i loved this discussion! i liked this movie, it was interesting and I loved all these shots. the alamo was showcasing an interview and david lowery cited extreme close-up shots from the seventh seal and the passion of joan of arc. that beginning voice narration was too good! also, that hair looks so long!

Hell yeah the ending was just awesome

I read the book a few weeks ago and I’m very excited to eventually actually see the film. I recommend everyone go read it. It’s not that difficult of a read as it’s not a very long book.

The podcast is back and my life feels complete again

Just watched it. Studied the hell outta this story in maybe 2006. Barely remembered it other than bare bones. I had to go get a refresher afterwards. I think you guys are right…helps to know the story ahead of time.

Im glad the Podcast is back. I've missed it

I was worried the podcast was done, it's my favorite part of the channel

1. This movie reminded me so much of films like THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST and SILENCE; movies where people struggle with their flaws and being human whilst also trying to live up to impossible ideals. There is a part of me that likes to headcanon that the Green Knight did chop Gawain's head off right after the movie ended (although I think a happy ending makes more sense narratively, especially since the "last temptation" in this film isn't particularly happy in of itself), because when I saw it I just sat there dumbfounded, wondering if that was what happened, and it made me fall in love with the film even more.
2. On another note, James's cosplay has Shakespeare's Richard II vibes, and I like that.

As someone that isn’t suuuuper familiar with the King Arthur stories and stuff like that, I appreciated the Green Knight. I dug the movie and I’m sure some references flew over my head but I never felt alienated watching it. I’ll dive into the backstory and look forward to rewatching this. As was mentioned, it feels a lilbit Christmassy. It was very charming.

Just finished this podcast, and then like 15 minutes later I learned about Gawain and the green knight in my myths class

Digging the outfits and James's bangs for the podcast!

I was really torn with this movie. I absolutely loved the Acting, Cinematograpy and set design. But the pacing and sound design in the second half completely killed it for me.

My theory for why Chelsea thought of Elmo first at 37:55 was that "All around me are familiar faces..." vine with the Elmo suited man out in the snow.😂🤣

Hah- I just watched this video after 6 years of not watching the channel anymore its still bring backs memories thank you for being my first favorite horror/scary youtube channel i ever loved KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! :)

i was pleasantly surprised to learn this ep of the pod and the movie it was discussing was about something i had already known about!! i'll definitely have to look into this movie as well since i adored the vvitch :D also can't wait for your ep on the new candyman, the trailers for that look wild so i hope it's as good as those lol

Glad you guys are back

We actually read this story when I was a senior in HS. If only I could remember what happened lol

Love the podcasts glad they are back

If you haven’t, play Knights Over Camelot. It’s a fun tabletop board game where you play as a knight of the round table doing quests but everyone is given loyalty cards and there is usually at least one traitor. It’s good fun.

Absolutely LOVED this Arthurian take from David Lowery!

I just saw this in theaters last night. What timing.

It's been so long since I watched the movie, but listening to this episode and hearing the way you guys described something made me think about something. Gawain's father is never mentioned, I think? I remember my impression was that Gawain was Arthur's illegitimate son with Morgan, because he has some qualities of Mordred as well (Arthur's incest baby with Morgan who is the ruin of the realm, and Gawain is Morgan's son and Arthur's heir here who, in the extended what if sequence, is the ruin of the realm).
The way you guys described the Green Knight as teasing Gawain in an almost fatherly way made me wonder if the Green Knight could be Gawain's father instead. There's nothing to base it off of, except that he could be a preexisting entity that Morgan and her witches can summon (as opposed to, perhaps, a disguise Morgan is using, though that's another possibility; at least I don't think they're ever on screen together), so it could be possible the Green Knight is a preexisting spirit of the forest and of nature, that Morgan conceived Gawain with the Green Knight a previous time she summoned him, and the Fox does tell Gawain "the Knight is someone you know" (Gawain might not literally "know" his father, but he would "know" him in the sense that they wouldn't be strangers, they have this connection). She's a witch, he's a pagan symbol, I know at least Christian demonology (witchology?) portrayed witches as sleeping with "demonic spirits" (bc evil women always be having that dang sex), I believe Christian lenses also typically portrayed pagans as kind of "conceiving children in the woods in orgies" type deals (sorta like the Wicker Man type pagans),. Since Chelsea brought up the thematic conflict between paganism and Christianity in this movie, I could see Morgan sleeping with the Green Knight as coming from these Christian views of witches/pagans in old mythology. I also think it could be fun to see Arthur as a surrogate father figure to his nephew representing Christianity (Gawain wanting to prove himself and become an honorable knight for Arthur/Christianity), and the Green Knight as a rival father figure to his biological son representing paganism (Gawain fearing the unknown and the woods, running from death and nature, and accepting it in the end and finally truly becoming an honorable knight to the Green Knight's pride).
(I know the Green Knight in the story is the lord of the castle Gawain kisses, which could make the makeout sesh a little weird in this one if that's his dad, but to be fair, the movie already diverges from the legend a fair amount and never confirms the lord is the Knight in this version. Some people also theorized that Morgan was the lord's wife who was putting moves on Gawain, and again, a rival theory might be that Gawain is Arthur and Morgan's incest baby, so there's already incesty interpretations present lol.)
Just a fun nothing theory I had, again nothing to base it off of. idk, there's a lot of interpretations for this movie for who's who and what's happening. It's really cool lol.

Great vid. So i watched the first half of this 6 months ago, i got so interested i paused the vid and watched the movie, loved it and researched the shit out of the tale also. 6 months later i see it in my suggestions with half a red viewed bar and was like oh i didnt finish that, just finished it and glad cause i didnt know there was a post credits scene.
Anyway just wanted to say, idk if Mrs Meat here mentioned it during the first half i dont think she did, but im super suprised she didnt talk more about the ending. At least that the origional version i think or the most common version at least of the story, he survives, the green knight only scratches his neck. He returns to camelot and is honest about his struggles upholding the 5 aspects of knightly code with the tests but at least passed bravery well. The knights of the round table fom then on all wore i think green sashes to honor him and the fact that anyone and every one is kinda shitty and even the great knights of the round table and other egotistical nobility are still human and can struggle and make misakes. I think thats cool. To me it goes along with the saying of like he who has no fear is not brave, he who has fear and faces it anyway is brave.
But also the director of this movie personally really thought it would be a cool idea twist of this movie to have Gwain killed by the green knight as a sudden strange end, but was talked out of it as being too far removed from the traditional point of the story so thats why he left the ending of the movie ambiguous. So that everyone includng himself could have their on headcannon. Which i like, as she said this movie is a vibe, i think in addition to the theatrical ending he should of filmed the traditional ending where knights where green sashes to honor his human mistakes, and also filmed his personal director view ending where he gets killed by the green knight and these alternate endings could appear in the dvd bonus features woulda been real cool and arty.

The Green Knight officially is a good Christmas movie . 😂😂👏👏. The lore and the characters were just so great. The journey was ....just...*Chiefs kiss*

THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST INTROS EVER!!!! KEEP IT UP!!!!

I've finally watched the Movie and super enjoyed it! I was saving this ep to watch to after and I'm super keen to hear your thoughts

The way I interpreted the ending, was that the Green Knight actually does cut his head off. I think the alternate reality of the vision could be interpreted as our reality, the story we know where Gawain doesn’t die is the lie he told when he runs away. I think the point of the story was that sometimes even if you pass the test and do the right thing, in the end you will still die. I think this fits with the theme of the “green” always triumphing over all, no matter what. That’s how I saw it though, really cool seeing how you guys interpreted the ending.

Loved this!! I had a lot of thoughts after I watched the movie and it was nice to hear another perspective, especially one that is quite similar to mine!

I read "Sir Gawain and the Green Knight" for my monsters class in college so I support it being horror.

Props to Chelsea for the Eye shadow work.

this movie actually didn't say this in the credits but one of the directors is "Dose Dragn"

Whoo hoo! So glad the podcast is back.

Take your time James we don’t need a double kill count each week have a good day

The girdle is actually a baby blanket after the morning in the castle.

I love the Chanel and thank you for making content

"Gwayne's Word" was a segment on Between the Lions. So, I always thought that was how it was pronounced.

We saw The Movie in Cinema and literally Everyone of us was so confused😂😂

Gawayne’s World! Excellent! 🤘🏼

Saw it in theatres. It is definitely still very dark in the theatres and can be tough for some scenes.

Joel Edgerton as Falstaff in The King on Netflix was fantastic. I use to not like Joel Edgerton but then i watched Warrior with him and Tom Hardy and Nick Nolte and since then I've been a big fan

This movie is my second favorite movie of the year so far. The Cinematography is absolutely stunning

I went into this movie with no prior knowledge of the story and walked away thinking “well it was visually beautiful but I didn’t get it” - now I’m interested in giving it a second watch with more context

I remember reading this my senior year of high school and thought it was the biggest coincidence when the trailer for it came out right when we started it.

Chelsea's right. Around the time of the war of the roses is when the printing press began to be used quite a lot in England. And with Henry VIII leaving the Catholic church, there was a huge outpouring of books printed in English (and not the usual aristocratic French of the upper class at the time), which made the populace fairly literate very quickly. Makes sense that the middle age era would end at that time.

You guys should watch a ghost story. It's also directed by David Lowery. It's not a horror movie, more of like an existential journey

Man I love you guys y'all look like extras from Midsomer

Saw it yesterday, its a lovely movie

Well done!

I watched this with my husband for my birthday last night and I don't even know how to feel😂😂 I think the movie did it's job.

Good thing I watched this. Tonight, while watching jeopardy, they asked which of Arthur’s nephews stared in this story and I got it

I'd love to see you guys review one of the many Monster High movies. I know they're not horror, but I'd be curious to see what you'd think of them since many people, myself included, loved them as kids. They're actually one of the things that got me interested in horror and the lore behind famous horror creatures. I would love to hear what you think of them, because I'm very clouded by nostalgia. Btw, I'm insanely happy the pod is back, this one was great and I really enjoyed hearing your thoughts on the film