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$1000 set of wheels and tires vs. $4000 set of wheels and tires. Does more expensive mean more better? And is it worth it?
We bought two identical Nissan 350z coupes and have been modifying them to be FUN, daily drivers that you can take to the track. James Pumphrey and Zach Jobe are on Team Hi and their 350z gets the expensive parts. Nolan Sykes and Aaron Parker are on Team Low, and their 350z gets the cheap ones.
For this episode Team Hi bought Advan RG3’s at $676 per wheel and Bridgestone Potenza RE71Rs at $265 per tire for a total of $3,764.
Team Low went with XXR 527s at $127 per wheel and Federal 595 RS-RR at $136 per tire for a total of $1,052.
The two teams will mount these wheel and tire setups on their newly lowered 350Zs and then take them out to the skidpad. We’ll look at 0 to 60 times, stopping distances, how many Gs they can pull. Can cheap tires match the performance of the expensive brands?
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All I'm learning with this series is that I really want a Z.
I'm currently Z shopping. Either this or a Miata.
@@game0wl Can't go wrong either way. Best of luck to you my dude
@@david_champa6265 Thanks likewise!!!
David_ Champa
Goddamn son!
Don’t pay more than 9000 for one we need to keep the prices down! I’m also looking and 13000 will get you a nice z but really it should only be 9000. Dealers are greedy.
"For all your wheel, tire, and suspension needs..." -wait, wrong channel.
Close enough. Most of us are prolly subbed to them too
Ye yeee
Fitment Industries?
Christian Haykus yep
😂😂
I think the final question, instead of “Does more money = more better” because 99% that answer will be yes, the question should be “Is more money worth it”
I’d believe in doing the best of both. So cheap rims and expensive tires. Because the rims matter a lot less than the tires in terms of performance. 4 pounds isn’t that much of a difference when you’re running a stiffer/lower set up, whereas if you max out your usable grip you’re going to have a much more noticeable improvement
Brandon Miller but at the same time, if they hit a big pothole or something, the better wheels (and probably the OEM wheels) MIGHT bend, whereas the cheaper ones will definitely bend and could crack. So not only are the more better ones safer, but if you live in a hole-y area, then you could end up saving money over the years.
*IRS enters the chat *
You’re overthinking a joke
gear head you gotta go somewhere in the middle
James trying to explain tire measurements literally killed me
Same lmso
When they clapped wheels and looked at the film crew like theyre kids who just bounced a basketball off dads vette i lost it 😂
Nolan: touches rim
Rim: minecraft anvil noise
I want to Die 💀💀💀
12:14
Bruh 😆
I want to Die o
I want to Die o
To those thinking cheap wheels are always bad: you are *sleepin* on flow-formed Konigs. Made on the same production line as Enkei flow-formeds, they are just as light and are half the price.
And rays?
matthew natividad rays are expensive as shit wtf
@@justinhedrick2906 rotiforms>
Dude, I can't even find 17in wheels lighter than the Konigs rn. I'm looking at dekagrams or countergrams because i like how they look, both just under 17lbs. The hypergrams are the lightest @ 16.33lbs for 17x8s. TSW Bathursts are 17lbs, nothing else compares that I've found. The Konigs are around 220, the Bathursts around 330.
@@johnnymatias3027 Get the hypergrams, I think they look sexy. I got Konig Rennforms on my car and tbh they're alright, but they're my first set of wheels so I didn't expect to get it perfect the first time
The different suspension kinda invalidates this test.
yes
Thats the whole point of this . Expensive vs cheap.
Did you miss the whole point of this series bud? Low budget vs high budget
@@michaelmcafferty9837 low vs high "wheels and tires" not suspension system bud
K C you’re still missing the whole point of the series if you could actually read lmao, one car has cheap parts hence the LO car, the other has expensive part hence the HI car. The whole point of the series is to figure out if more expensive actually means better and in most cases yeah. Just thought you would need some more simpler explaining since you don’t get it
I like seeing $500 dollars civics on 4K wheel setups.
Yes mate, yes
It's like how pirates wore gold earrings so when they got killed they could afford a funeral
Lol me
500 dollars dollars
Hey when my car is 15 years old ill be saving 500 a month by not buying a newer car and i can mod the crap out of it. Comming for you work wheels.
Next:
$100 subwoofer vs $1000 sound system+$30 vape juice
There is a huge difference between good sound system and bad sound system. No vape juice though. I have a 1000W AMP JL Audio (the one that claims it will never oveheat and 2 8' Subs from JL Audio. That setup alone is quality.
Cheap subwoofers sound like crap. But you don't have to spend $1000+ to get quality. My powered sub is from Rockford Fosgate. It is a 12 inch Punch woofer with a 300 watt rms mono amp. Great bass in my truck.
@@enlightenedidiot9552 Let me correct that. Poorly designed subwoofers sound like crap. Price is not a sure determination of performance. SPL in a car is easy and 250-300$ sub can give JL and fosgate a run for it's money. Most "Car" subs are overpriced because of branding. You can hit 130dB with just 300Ws with the right woofer and still get deep bass
@@enlightenedidiot9552 Rockford fosgate will always be a high end quality brand
@@aceproduction99 I agree...
Punch baby!
You guys have explained tire measurements better than any other channels. Thanks!
I love this series bro’s ! It’s dope af gave me allot of insight and made my purchases better
*Donut gets sponsored by nos*
James gets a heart attack
*Donut gets sponsored by keeps*
6 months later James is gonna go bald
Ritchie103 stopppp lol
DONT PUT THAT EVIL ON ME RICKY BOBBY! DONT BRING THAT INTO MY HOUSE! - James
@@Donut
IM ON FIRE OH SWEET BABY JESUS IM ON FIRE.
YOUR NOT ON FIRE RICKY BOBBY
JAMES WHATEVER YOU DO DONT GET A VIAGRA SPONSORSHIP
Just want to say thank you for whoever added the metric conversions. Appreciate ya.
Loved it! Thanks for all work put into this video. I was wondering if you weighed the tires (with or without the wheels)? Spinning weight matters.
yall always have very detailed videos, i appreciate the content. Keep it up!
I’m sad that my z is basically lo-car :(
Still cool
Building budget cars is just as cool if not cooler than big budget builds. Making something quality for a low cost is never a bad thing! I have a 06 sti I built up for under 3 grand :) 417 horsepower.
Save up.
Get what you can afford. Marginally better times in the real world (street or butt dyno) don’t really matter. Ask yourself “Does it make my car better and can I still eat the food I like?” If yes, than you’re fine.
Slavic Logic **ringlands cry in pain**
This show should be himidlow, demonstrating the logarithmic diminishing return on investment. For the majority of consumers, a mid tier product will be the most cost effective.
I felt smart knowing what all those big words meant
stock-low-mid-hi then
@@nathanperini9226 That makes too much sense yo
I said the same thing on the original video! I think that format is the money maker.
Set of koni shocks for $800 and a set of rt615k for $600 on the stock wheels. Would destroy both these cars. $1400 total.
I just started watching this youtube channel, and I really like how they explain important facts about each product and how they can impact a cars performance. Reminds me of those car shows back on discovery channel in the early 2000's
Thank y’all for teaching me about the wheel sizes I didn’t know what them middle numbers meant till now, lov y’all ❤️
Me:Looks at thumbnail , then looks at title
Also me: Confused
And then a different number in the video for the highs
Thumbnail is for wheels only, title is for tires+wheels
A cheat for the brake test would be turn cruise control on.
Or engine brake.
Great video, love your guys work, but I do think it’s worth mentioning one tiny aspect about wheel fitment that you left out that’s super important: hub bore.
Good job. Helpful tests & discussion. Thanks.
The cheap one is more than my budget
They bought the sports version of cheap so its gonna be a little bit pricy since its sport 🤧🤑
bicycle tires are your budget
@@trillrifaxegrindor4411 good bike wheels and tires aren't much cheaper lol
@@notDonaldFagen right a good bicycle wheel like my old bmx was $130 for the rim alone plus ti spikes and a $300 hub... about $1200 for the pair if I remember right , closer to $450 each or $900 for the pair, if you just use cheapo spokes
@@NB-ir1me u gotta respect the bike community to be equally scandalous in pricing. A good wheelset starts at 1k smh 😂
The cops should see this and realize that modified cars are better performing and SAFER!
Reece Dabeast but what about the driver? Cars don’t drive themselves
Idk...I see a lot of wrecked BMW/Mercedes/Muscle cars
I don’t agree. Being faster is different than being safer. Looots of tests are done on oem parts for road use. They did not try it under heavy rain for exemple. Also, they kinda know what they are doing and used “appropriate” parts installed the right way. We can not expect it from everyone diy-ing it in their driveway.
@@marcom2092 That's besides the point...
@@Range-X That's cause fuckin rich kids and retards.
I'm kind impressed how good edited are Donut's videos and, off course, the content
Love the show. I am a budget car guy, so I like the info on the low end stuff. But I do spend the money on good parts where necessary so I can appreciate the reviews on the High end shiz too! Anyways I'll keep tuning in on the channel.
"Compulsory comment about how this week's sponsor is going to give James a heart attack"
kanishka sarkar lol
Current car culture: "if you arent running $4k worth of wheels on $55 chinese tires youre trash."
Not me i dont bullshit with tires
They're called 500tw ditchfinders
Bill Collins i would get cheap wheels before cheap tires
Hingle McCringleberry same exactly
So true.. 3 piece wheels with Nankang tires everywhere lol
I love RS-RR for track use. been using them for years. Extremely loud on the street though
7:45 Nolan's and my reaction every time I finish mods
probably the first sponsor shout out I listen with consideration
What are you doing here lol.
Ur an imposter
Yeah
@@solitude2871 SUD
Street can?
This is why I love Enkei. Closer to the XXR in price, but closer to the Avant in quality.
I love enkei wheels. I like the gold Enkei 92s the most
RPF1 gang rise up
@@Gerarghini true poor boy racers know XD rpf1 is life
Konig Dekagrams
anarchyamp yassss bitch
Thank you for doing what you do keep up the amazing work 👏
Why am I just now checking in to this series? I love this it’s so fun to watch
I LOVE THIS SHOW!!! this literally destroys any other show I’m so interested and waiting for each vids it’s like a real tv show
Best thing on youtube at moment
Classic Top Gear would like to know your location
Top Gear?
Rims are the sneakers of car culture. Air Jordans are cool but in reality cheaper Nikes outperform them in every way.
under rated comment
Steve Wohlford jordans are lame as Fuck.
@@thunderhammer1937 I will actually go to your house
Air_ Swing on by, I’ll give you some Vans to wear. I’ll even let you throw your lame ass Jordan’s in my trash bro. 😂
@Soccerkid43 and you're watching a video on a channel about race cars on public road...sure lol
I'm getting a set of RG4s soon! Excited!
2:46 no kidding I actually laughed so hard. Thank you James. What was pure gold
1000$ wheels
Oh ok that’s a reasonable price set
- And tires!
Oh...
Oh no...
What is a reasonable price for set?
shadowflare99 around 1700
lAcid Rainl are the wheels 35” or the tires 35” tall?
@@iknowthings57 35 inch wheels duh hes makin a donk lol
When he said I'd rather spend 500 instead of 1200, I cringed knowing I spend 1600 for cheap tires on my dual rear wheel truck
For people like me who love cars but just getting in to modding cars, this series is GODSENT. Thanks boys!
I love y’all a videos help teaching me thing for my project car!
Excellent content guys, keep it up!
"In every test they performed better."
With suspension proven vastly superior...
Should've swapped em' all onto the same car.
yep if the suspension isn't correctly set up for what you are using your car for theres no point in even thinking about wheels and tyres. slamming a car as low as it will go severely impacts the way a car handles as seen in the video and should never be done if your doing any fast driving.
@@filmboy18 that's true but I'm pretty sure that he meant the fact that the two cars have different suspensions
They wouldn't fit, they already had to roll the fenders out on hi-car to fit the Advan/Bridgestone combo, lo-car is way lower so would have even less room.
I was waiting for it.. “ I’m talking HRSPRS” 😂
Great video. Great comparisons!
I’m buying some sticky new tires right now. I love how you all explain stuff
Should've done the tests with stock suspension on both
or at least made another run with the cheap tires and rims on the hi car so that we'd have an apples to apples comparison
They didn't have to. They ran the same course with both cars when they changed the suspension and before they changed the wheels and tires.
10:10
Text is flipped around
Yoooo keep up the hard work good shit 💪🏽
I think this Hi / Lo series is the pinnacle so far of this channel. Was epic.
These videos genuinely help me choose the parts I need for my car on a budget.
Cant wait for the exhaust episode, especially with those Polarizing VQ35s
This was great actually. Thank you gentlemen.
This video cleared up some issues I'm having with my plymouth fire arrow
"Low car was bouncing like my wife" *beep* 😂
That was hilarious.
He was censored for like 5 seconds hahahaha
I’ve learned so much from this hiLo series and enjoy it so much! Thank you.
Cool series, you guys are hilarious. I’m not surprised that tires made the biggest difference. The RE71s were terrific street/track day tires.
just ordered the xxr 527s for my miata, super hype about it.
This is more a test for the tires, I would love to see a pothole test for the wheels
When they use the same wheels u own for the low comparison😢😭
pleasedontsubscribe1 but they sicker then 95% wheels you see on the street 🙏🙌🙌
But dude, that's the sickest low wheels you can get
They look nice asf
The federal tires are nice anywho. As long as you care enough to get something kinda nice for your car.
Just ad a 0 at the price tag and you got yourself a nice baler set of wheels. That's literally how the wheel culture works.
I run federal on my 7. With stock suspension. I love em
Love this series.
Guys I don't care if you are or aren't sponsored. Just keep making great videos! Thank you for what you all do!!
I think the sponsors are part of their motivation for some of their series, Nos energy drink split after James had a heart attack, and since it was a reoccurring sponsor for Bumper 2 Bumper, meaning it was probably the main sponsor, the series hasn't had a new episode since.
He had a heart attack?
just two bro’s chillin in an alley and talking about Z’s
I looked at a few videos to understand wheels and tires better (fairly new car guy in training here) and none explained them is quickly and simply as you all did. I Totally understand now! Thanks Donut Media :)
Sponsored products or not, it’s just a comparison and you guys by far have done a great job comparing and hands on applying. Need more content 🤘
Someone stole the the bit of James's pant that covers the ankle.
so love this series!! Helpful for car guys while choosing parts!!
It’s tough I feel like it would be inconclusive unless you run the lows on the high suspension and vis-à-vis
But for that huge of a cost for just fraction of the improvement. The low seems like a better deal.
Big difference between pulling and rolling fenders! Learnt that from your pro vs joe video on fender rolling ;)
could've gone TE37 for team high and Micheline Pilot Sport 4s.
Filming at magic mountain I see, crazy to see Six Flags allow you do this stuff! Awesome 🔥
Love the info drop from this channel you guys rock, my, world!. Not really but ya!.
Keep it up boys!! Always enjoy a Donut break! Drive safe 🙌
Y’all shoulda swapped wheels and tested them on each setup respectively
Love this series
10:43 i like how aaron goes into a powerslide but just keeps calm and countersteers, this is why he got into hyperdrive.
5:19 had the same energy as the kid that says "have you ever had a dream where-"
"Up to speed" episode about Oldsmobile 442, please...
I love those Federals.... but it sounds like you’re getting invaded by aliens in the Z’s cabin.
Bro i had em on my genesis when i first got it. HOWLING. I thought the wheel bearings were trashed lol
I had them on my Miata for a while, they were so damn loud. Sticky AF though
Got them on my FR-S. AAAAAaaaaaAAAAAaaaaaAAAAA
I have them on my S2K. Sticky AF in dry, but a soap in wet. Too dangerous for the UK actually....
The new federals rs-pro tho! Basically an updated version, similar price and aren't as loud
great upload, watched from beginning to end! you guys should test out stock nismo and see the difference haha
I love your guys videos I'm a 40 year old man just bought my first car wish I could do things like that very interesting your videos help out a lot thank you
The “Low” team is still pretty expensive for an average person
Or maybe its just because Im 14
Once you start working more and have some stability it's not as unattainable.
Your time will come young dude.
Chris Aguirre Damn, never knew there were people like you around sharing such polite and good advice to younger people. Good on you :)
It's probably because you're 14.
Cars are expensive, kids.
Kinang Eagle It really is expensive for an average person, my little brother!! Have a good day!!
Half a months pay for what are honestly the biggest upgrade to a car isn't too terrible.
Keeping your hair when it wants to leave is like getting back with an ex doomed from the beginning lol
I'm running those xxrs in bronze with Hancock ventus evo2 and the combo is great. Plus the tire rating is like 340.
OMG the triangles thing was about the sandwiches. Nice work!
You guys should do a show where you each have the same budget and you choose which upgrades to buy and see who ends up with a better car!
how come I feel like I’ve seen this video already? is this reuploaded?
Kyyven this was like a series on Facebook but now it’s uploaded to KRplus
@@ivanguillen3678oh shit yeah... thats why
I was thinking the same! I thought I was crazy!
I LOVE THIS SERIES!!
love coming back to this series and just realized at lip contact they made the faces dads make when one of their kids hits another
This is my favorite KRplus series frfr
Great series, fellas! I would expect those cheap wheels to get damaged / bent / out-of-round much more easily. Before long, Low Car is likely to have wobbles and vibrations that no amount of tire balancing will cure. High Car has a fighting chance to roll smoothly down the road for a long time.
I love these video I learn way more and faster then I ever did in school
Thank you for teaching! ❤️👍🏽😁
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Start breaking down legendary engines and why they are so legendary!
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Tate Smart my first car was a VR6. Was siiick
Agree on the vr6, Always loved the sound of that engine 👍
I LOVE THESE VIDEOS! This should be called "UNDERSTANDING CARS AND PARTS 101"....this is awesome! This series is a keeper.
Need to do a test on lowering spring vs coilover
This info from suspension to rim's an rubber is brilliant, could you guy's test cheap and expensive spacers on these car's
It would be valid data collection 👌
I'm hitting subscribe right now.