AMADEUS REMASTERED HD - MOZART INSULTS SALIERI BY PLAYING HIS OWN PIECE BETTER THAN HE DID
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- 게시일 2019. 12. 09.
- This is one of my favorite scenes from Amadeus. It is rare for a film to have two actors be nominated for the same award. Thomas Hulce eventually lost to F. Murray Abraham at the Oscars, but there is no denying that both gave outstanding performances.
It was said that the real Mozart had a very childlike laugh which Hulce does his best imaginative version of. The laugh is so jarring and out of the blue that it catches the Emperor off guard twice.
Mozart is either arrogant or socially unaware because he insults Salieri multiple times. As Mozart plays Salieri's little march and notes "the rest is just the same, isn't it?" you can see how maligned Salieri felt. Then to top it off Mozart declares "that doesn't quite work, now does it?" and then proceeds to take Salieri's tune and add embellishments and improvisation such that Salieri can only look on in jealousy mixed with resentment.
Salieri's jealousy and contempt for Mozart is best summed up with the line "Grazie, Signore..." as he looks up at the crucifix.
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The emperor butchered Salieri's piece, but Mozart was able to play it perfectly by only hearing it and then improvising the melody... "the rest is just the same, isn't it?" Mozart so innocent in his behavior he doesn't realize how insulting he is LOL
The sciences are also full of people with huge egos, unaware or cruelly indifferent to how truly annoying they are to others. You struggle on a theory or an equation for months or years, and then by chance you encounter someone who corrects your mistakes shows you how they solved that 'simple' problem _two years ago._ LOL
I LOVE this movie. One of the few examples where the Theatrical release is leaps and bounds beyond the directors extended cut.
Oh he knew, he definitely knew, that was the whole point.
@@TSZatoichi Yeah he was mocking him right from the start
@@nicholashylton6857 Every working musician, myself included has had similar moments where someone comes out of nowhere to steal your thunder. It is a jarring experience, but the truly great musicians learn from it.
Salieri, the first artist to experience a remix of their music.
Lmfao
More specifically, a remix better than the original. Ouch. He had the idea there, clearly, but someone with broader knowledge took the concept and brought it to it's potential.
Except nothing is remotely historically accurate. Salieri was a giant of classical music.
@@vinlondon8904, nah, it happened just like that. I know, I was there. I was the sheet music.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
For Salieri, the day Mozart improved upon his piece was the gravest insult he ever received.
For Mozart, it was Tuesday.
Where is my Street Fighter x Amadeus mash up?
😂
So underrated
BAH. THESE COMMENTS NEVER HAPPENED IN REAL LIFE!!!!
"LET'S GO SALIERI!!"
Moment before disaster.
For those that don’t play the piano, or another musical instrument, the fact that the Emperor was able to “sight-read” the march is quite an accomplishment. Being able to play the tune passably in under 2 minutes from first seeing it shows that the Emperor was a serious musician even though he comes off as a buffoon in the scene. Mozart’s genius is demonstrated by playing by ear a piece he just heard and then improvising a better version. Mozart was indeed a genius.
I think the scene was engineered to show three levels of musical ability. The Emperor is a good couch player as we say in guitar. Good. Some genuine talent and skill, but not a 'pro'.
Salieri is a great composer. Truly gifted musically.
Then Mozart. A God.
@@voodoochild1975az Mozart wasn't a God. He wasn't a genius either - he was just driven and focused. You'll be surprised what you can achieve with those two qualities.
It's not called "sight-reading" lol 😂 that's a tautology.
It's just called reading music. Lol.
@@shroudedgrove4679 Not really - I can read music and teach myself a piece on piano, but I can't play the piece just on a first reading of it, without lots of stops and starts while I find the chords. There are many people who can and indeed you have to be able to for exams. I never took piano exams but I took Violin exams and would say I can sight-read violin music to a certain level. i.e. I can look at a piece I've never seen before and play it.
@@shroudedgrove4679 sight-read
/ˈsīt ˌrēd/
verb
gerund or present participle: sight-reading
read and perform (music) at sight, without preparation.
"by the time he was seven, Mozart could sight-read anything he was given"
Mozart didn't insult him, he humbled him, there is almost always somebody better than you.
At that time was actually the opposite. Don't take for granted what movies say, folks! Real history is another thing.
When you are confronted with someone as talented as Mozart, you can choose to harbor one of two feelings: admiration or envy. Salieri chose the latter.
That’s precisely what I was thinking. His arrogance caused him to be insulted! Pride always comes before a fall! 😂😂
Probably what the "Gratias" looking at the crucifix was about... thanking God he'd had his pride taken away.... =D
If you watch the film, Salieri stole Mozart’s original composition. Then he realizes the theft while the King is playing it. So he pokes fun at the entire event.
The most unbelievable thing about this scene is that when the king unrolls the music sheet to play it, it lays out flat on the stand instead of rolling back up again.
I like your attention to detail.
It was rolled up with the notes on the outside, so it makes perfect sense, that it will stay (somewhat) flat.
it's good to be the king :-)
Parchment doesn't deform as easily as modem paper. Plus it was rolled VERY loosely
Royal privilege
Salieri wasn't a bad composer, he was just very unfortunate to live at the same time and place as Mozart.
But he had a better carreer and recognition at his time. When Mozart died in poverty..
Salieri was a giant in his own right.
This movie was not even remotely accurate historically. Build on urban myths.
Listen to salieri 's music and you'll see.
@@vinlondon8904 I'm a huge fan of old fashion nd early baroque music and Italian music.
But there were TONS of good composers as Salieri at his time.
Mozart for sure was ahead of his time and very unique.
Very modern. Passing the torch from baroque to classical music.
He didn't steal his reputation.
Artisical liberties taken in the movies have nothing to do with that.
And rivalery with Salieri was real.
@@michaelromeo9567 I never said salieri was better than mozart and quite frankly comparison like this don't help either.
Mozart was a child prodigy and made that transition as you said between baroque to classical. That alone didn't make him a better composer because by the same logic we can say that Bethoven who made the transition between classical to modern was also better than mozart. I love all three styles but to me baroque is unique in its style and soul soothing.
Ps: was very common at that time that composers had rivalry. But it wasn't mozart that disliked Italian opera,as expressed in this short clip in the movie. On the contrary. Bethoven though did express dislike towards it because of its popularity even in the German speaking territories.
@@vinlondon8904 The story was based on a 19th century play by Alexander Pushkin, "Mozart and Salieri", so the idea in total is a fiction. Salieri was highly regarded and even taught Beethoven for awhile. Still the movie was enchanting.
Having been to music school, I have been in Salieri's place, being taunted by a more talented musician and feeling just awful. This scene captured the dynamic perfectly. The ease of Mozart's talent, the withering of Salieri's self-esteem, Salieri's discomfort, Mozart's reveling in his own strength and enjoying his superiority. It's all so true to life.
Dumb people who think that movie was the actual truth be like:
Actually at that time was the opposite: Salieri was the man, Mozart was nothing until the recent discovery. Don't believe everything movies say, guys.
ANYBODY playing a musical instrument goes through the same anguish from time to time, it is enough to open KRplus and in a couple of seconds you see somebody, more often than not unknown, being much better than you are. Compared to just barely 20 years ago this was not possible, you either had famous and established artists that you knew about, or you rarely discovered someone new. I don't think this is beneficial for your artistic development, it is information and emotional overload.
I appreciate your honesty. I do artwork, & occasionally I often hear, “oh nice, U should sell it.” and I say “nah, too much time, & not enough money for it.” Which is true, but more importantly, I know what incredible art is, and mine is maybe half-way there.
@@janetpattison8474what matters is that your artwork expresses what is in you.
Buddhist saying: “Compare is the killer of joy”.
This is one of the most impeccable pieces of ensemble acting in any film. Every actor here completely inhabits his character to perfection. Bravo!
And they actually did it with no music in the background either, the harpsicord playing was added afterwards, incredible.
I like Patrick Hines (Kappellmeister Bono) especially.
Indeed
@@tophatanimation8748it's piano not Harpsichord?? Not baroque??
Mozart didn't have an american accent.
Fun Fact: The Actor who portrayed Mozart Tom Hulce did that laugh as a joke and the director loved it so much, he kept it in the film
It was noted historically that Mozart had a nervous giggle which invoked comments from people.
@@catherinelw9365 which makes the movie accurately better!
I met Tom Hulce at a NYC nightclub about 2 months after Amadeus originally came out. He said it was an honor to work with F Murray Abraham but he was difficult to work with.
Tom Hulce should have gotten the Oscar. Both he and Abraham were nominated.
Interesting
“The rest is just the same, isn’t it??”
Fucking. Savage.
Worse still: “That doesn’t really work, does it? Shouldn’t it be more…?”
Even worse, he rearranges the melody and then asks: “Better, don’t you think?”
@@stevenguild2707 Even worse. It WAS better.
Haha!
A crushing blow indeed 🤣👌
@@slipperysloper3721 Definitely.
The emperor didn't do to badly, to be fair. He's not a musical genius, but he sight-read pretty well.
Thats i was about tô say. He's reading is Better than 95% musicians i played with( ok, we,re rockers) but he,s done pretty well.
Yeah, sight reading is pretty difficult when you're reading two parts at the same time on piano both treble and bass clef.
Yeah, he's just like an odinary piano learner haha
I think he likely still was better in reality
I would also imagine that the teaching methods to learn sight reading were pretty bad back in the times.
I remember watching the Oscars that year. F. Murray Abraham was so humble in his acceptance speech. I remember him saying that his only regret was that Tom Hulce wasn't standing there right next to him. The very opposite of what his character would have done.
Si he visto la película tantas veces es porque me fascinó la actuación de Salieri, y la vuelvo a ver solo por Él.
Actually... his character could have done that, but in a malicious way, trying to imply something like "lol bro, shame that you aren't as good as me isn't it ?"
"Guess you guys aren't ready for that yet... But your kids are going to love it."
--Wolfgang McFly
You're wrong.
That was Marty McMozart
😉😄😂
Lol wolfgang Mc Fly thanks for that hahahaha
Very good
Best comment I have seen today on KRplus
“Hey Ludwig! This is your cousin.... Frans Van Beethoven?!? You know that new sound you are looking for? Well listen to this!”
This entire scene is pure gold. There was more shade thrown in that room than an overcast day in Seattle.
HA HA HA
And none of it was from Mozart. At least not on purpose
Lmao!!!!!
@Vulpixe Nya
I think you're exactly right about this. I think Mozart is so socially inept and in his own world that he doesn't even realize how insulting he's being. --Now, LATER in the film, however, when Mozart comments that maybe Salieri could "give him some lessons" in putting a good "bang" at the ends of his songs, to "let them (the Venetians) know when to clap" - I think THAT is intentional shade.
perfectly said.
This is probably my favorite movie scene of all time. I never get tired of watching it.
Me too
me too
Amazing scene. Perfectly written and acted in every way, from the obsequiousness, the sarcasm, the thinly veiled threats, smirks, and finally astonishment. Just great stuff that is timeless.
Mozart being the first person to remix a song is the most Mozart thing ever
Funny comment. Not really true. Bach did this all the time, but it's still a cool comment.
@@YourEternalSoul666 well then....
It is called Improvisation.
And first music pirate, I recall that he transcibe a song he heard on Sistine chapel
@@axelbauer4408 exactly
The movie "Amadeus" is a masterpiece. But in reality, Mozart and Salieri were colleagues who respected each other's work and helped each other at times. Mozart even sent his son to Salieri for early music lessons.
The movie is such a waste of time; they should have stuck to the facts
@@rrrrrr-kb9sb It's a movie, not a documentary.
@@rrrrrr-kb9sb All entertainment is technically a waster of time
I believe they were colleagues and cordial to one a other, but there could have been a rivalry there. They definitely had access to each other's time and space and a respect for each other's craft was mutual, but it's said their friendship was a of a competitive nature. _They were in competition for the same commissions._ The town accused Salieri of poisoning Mozart. That seldom happens to friends! Lol.
@@Jolene8 rivalry as in, professional rivalry, like with all other composers at the time, competing for funds and acknowledgement.
brilliantly executed, charming, comedic, Tom Hulse was extraordinary in this role.
I heard one of Salieri’s operas. It was damned good. He’s underrated. It’s too bad for him that Mozart was his contemporary.
That's how I feel about Donald O'Connor. He was a great talented actor-singer-dancer who got lost in a crowd of so many other great talented actor-singer-dancers.
The film kind of exaggerates how mediocre Salieri was for dramatic effect.
Salieri was damned good. If he had been alive when this absurd play/movie came out, he could have and should have sued. Unfortunately, now the uneducated public worships Mozart but thinks he was a giggling idiot, and believes Salieri was some kind of villainous musical hack. The whole thing is a steaming load.
@@CaryCotterman no one had heard of Salieri before this movie. Even if it villifies him, it brought him to the attention of millions and millions of people.
And I'm not sure it's as bad as that. He's the court composer for the Austrian emperor, we see him work hard and even make grand operas. He just happens to be bested by Mozart - and he becomes a villain. But there were dozens of composers out there, completely unknown now. But Salieri will live forever, although as the man who was bested by Mozart (and sort of killed him, not irl oc).
Now, if he'd composed anything worth his salt, we'd be listening to it now and again.
So perhaps the movie actually did him a favour.
@@CaryCotterman History does get "over-rewritten" for effect sometimes, doesn't it?
“That really doesn’t work, does it?”
Impeccable burn! 😆
But truthful...
Kills me every time 😅
mr. the big Duke: and that's when the pain began ! ! !
Did you try….?
Lol
This is one of the most brilliant movies ever made imo. Absolutely adore the performances and Tom is spectacular. That laugh makes me giggle each and every time I hear it, and I can't tell you how many times I've watched this movie. LOVE.
Me too!! Multiple times.
It's the subtle expressions from the actors that really make this scene stand out. F. Murray Abraham's disgust when Tom Hulce says "the rest is just the same, isn't it?", or when Hulce plays the crescendo and lets out a goofy high-pitched voice. 😂 Absolutely brilliant!
Why doesn’t anyone give the Emperor some credit? He played the piece two times and at Mozarts arrival he played almost flawlessly
It's not a difficult piece.
@KRplusrs fan And dj too Joseph II
I agree. Considering he was sight-reading, that was pretty damn good.
I agree
@@vincek8294 Do you play the piano or harpsichord?
I really loved Mozart's portrayal of being this jolly and informal dude, who's simply gifted in music
Who proceeds to slaughter the emperor's hopes and dreams of playing piano
It's not an accurate portrait though, he spent all his life playing
Damn. You are everywhere.
He was a wild child an early depiction of a rockstar. Dude was writing music for everyone yet making a terrible name for himself at an elegant point of view at least. A real bohemian.
He was the equivalent of punk/rock in his day. A musical genius.
Brilliant movie.The performances of the actors and Milos Forman, the brilliant director.
I love how Salieri’s face is in the beginning when he’s happy and says “ grazcie senore. Then at the end with a downcast look. “ grazcie senore “
Very cool that the Emperor was self aware about his music skills, but he still loved playing and even asked permission to try it. Very humble!
Salieri isn’t in a position to say no, lol. It’s more social etiquette rather than true humility.
Joseph II was indeed a humble or at least modest man.
the emperor is leagues better than I am
People who command real power have no reason not to be humble. But those who rule with fear and a iron fist is simply because they are aware of how flimsy their claim to Govern.
just your average god-ordained autocrat
That little smirk at 8:57 is so short, but such an incredible piece of acting. He's trying so hard to be annoyed by and dismissive of Mozart, but for a brief second his love of music overpowers that and a bit of joy peaks through. F Murray Abraham absolutely killed it as Salieri.
It looks like he was smirking back at a guy smirking at him, to hide the fact the he was envious
Surprised me to see him in Scarface
He had the best performance in this entire movie
F Murray Abraham was sensational ! This scene with the Italian court acting was superb !
A remarkable performance.
A disgusted look from one musician to another is actually the highest form of compliment another musician can get
I never watched the movie and I'm not a classical music lover but I have watched this clip numerous times because its such a neat little encapsulation of human behavior and frailties.
You must watch it in full!
Maybe he wasn’t insulting. Maybe he genuinely loves music so much and wants to bring it to its utmost potential.
That’s the idea Mozart never meant to purposely be rude. Salieri just felt threatened by him
maybe Mozart has Asperger's
That IS how we should view it, good point WELL MADE !
I've always viewed it that way as well
@@karu6111 Aspergers, ADHD, BiPolar.... one or the other, think he had a mix... genius whatever!
The look on Salieri's face when he realizes that Mozart is a genius is priceless. F. Murray Abraham deserved that Oscar
SALIERI false modesty came back to test him. If he had been genuine in his mere trifle it would be a compliment to have anyone, nevermind such talent to build upon it and elaborate the tune. egos are the enemy of creative spirit imo
@@ricochetVendetta yes it kills your confidence and distracts you from looking within
Agreed. He was phenomenal in this.
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F Murray is The Man
HOMELAND !
all the actors in this cut deserve and Oscar The Best movie ever.
This has been one of my favourite KRplus videos for a long time now. It makes me smile.
Every actor in this scene is brilliant. Even without lines, their faces convey so much as they try to comprehend what is happening. Especially the way they all peak back at Salieri as the improvisations keep coming, just to see his reactions. F Murray Abraham has the look of pure devastation as it slowly creeps in and takes him over, all while to the score of whimsical, charming music. Just an absolute masterclass all around and masterpiece of a movie.
Jeffrey Jones =
Speaks volumes of lines thru his eyes in this scene.
Solid actor, seldom recognized.
Was great as the lawyer in Easy Money
@@kkeo6332 he also has a pretty checkered past. Look up his Wikipedia page if you don't know about it. He's a brilliant actor and has been in some really great movies, but he's also done some messed up stuff.
Did Bonno ever breath through his nose?
Great comment. I pointed out the exact same thing in Mr. Abraham’s look/eyes. Might have to finally watch this film.
@@Mr.Beginning you must see it atleast once. Hard not to be moved by this one, even if one could care less about classical music. Powerful story and great acting for the most part.
In real life, Salieri wrote some very complimentary things about Mozart. The two even collaborated on a work that was discovered in a Czech museum in 2015 or 2016.
True. They did not dislike each other and (according to accounts) there's no indication that Mozart was as buffoonish as they make him out to be, either. He did like to party, though.
@@senosab and he had a very open relationship with his father and mother. Not what is depicted here
They were still alive in 2015 or 2016? Amazing!
How old would that make them then? 🤪
@@michaelshea1683 lmao clown 🤡
Not only they respected each other but Salieri was the godfather of Mozart's children and helped them when his friend Mozart died
We need to remember that this is just a movie. I love it too, as a movie, but the truth is that Salieri was Mozart's number one fan and tried his best to help his career along. He even played the glockenspiel for the opening night of The Magic Flute. Salieri had a court position, the acclaim of European society, and no reason at all to feel inferior to Mozart. The artistic rivalry portrayed here is more about creating conflict where there was none, for the sake of telling an exciting story.
Salieri was a kind man that taught many poor kids that couldn't afford it, for free. He had probably seen something in Mozart too but remember that Mozart was discovered recently and during life he was nothing.
At that time if anything was Mozart to be envious, but probably wasn't: Mozart in a letter said to have learnt a lot and studied Salieri's music. Also Mozart's son was taught by Salieri.
Thank you both for these insights into history. This fictional movie brought attention to Mozart’s wonderful music but greatly disparages Salieri.
I like Mozart is so caught up in creating that he really doesn't realize how insulting he is. In his mind he's just creating and improving something
Exactly... he is oblivious to how condescending he sounds
Charlie Brown, JUST kick the football,already!
That's why he was on the Spectrum.
the power of A U T I S M
@@jks7556 Autism is a human state of being. Autism HAS no power of its own. imagine a very stong flash light.You notice and say "Wow the power of the bulb inner filament 's so great" Autism like all other things stem from the Creator. Some have this talent and some that talent, they are ONLY a loan from the Creator which will be asked for at one time in lieu of return.
I met Tom Hulce walking down 5th Avenue just after the film came out. He was in person very similar to his character Mozart here. Friendly, funny and very open. This scene is one of my favorites in ANY film for ANY era. Like Jeremy Brett's Sherlock Holmes it is beyond merely good, it is perfection! To those DOLTS who complain that the film is not a documentary or get offended by the poetic license given are MISSING THE POINT. This film is about LOVING Mozart's MUSIC. That is why the title is 'AMADEUS' (loving Godlike music)! It is a celebration NOT a dissection!
as well as funny and open I like the streak of poisonous mischief in the writing/portrayal of Mozart too - as evidenced in this scene (or lines like 'when one hears such sounds, what can one think but...Salieri!')
I liked how the Emperor was startled by Mozart’s laugh after the piece was finished - you can see his hand flinching. Lol 9:21
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
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My favorite line was ' too many notes' in another part of the movie. I Used it in real life.
My Dad always laughed at that too. Good attention to detail. ;)
One person in the comment section said that that laugh he did was improvised and not in the script. So that must have been why the actor of the emperor's hand was shaking so badly.
You can't compete with an extraordinary GENIUS, you simply can't ...
I've watched this scene over and over again, it's brilliant. Thanks for posting
Actually, the Emperor did not butcher the piece. He played it from the sheet in a first reading. For someone who enjoys the piano at a beginner level, this is a remarkable feat. Not to mention the ability to play badly before an audience without giving a crap about it. He should take more lessons and continue to enjoy his music.
Wish our president could do something like that.😅
And that's not the only mistake of the film... a film many people still think it tells the true story of Mozart last days.
You just mad cuz Mozart schooled his ass
BTW why are they speaking American English not Germany???
@@redacted2243 Mozart schooled Salieri, not the king.
The laugh is honestly a stroke of brilliance by the actor who portrayed Mozart. It has been historically documented that Mozart did indeed have somewhat of an obnoxious laugh, but I’m sure this was taken to a whole new level. It really added something to the performance and was just funny as hell at the same time!
its legendary
I'm glad people wrote down in history; "Mozart's music was brilliant but also he laughed obnoxiously". This is why I love history. The random little facts that let you know a person's character 😂
9:24 Even the Emperor got a startle with the laughter
@@philthehexagon2989 It is indeed
@@persephoneblack888 I find the most interesting facts about historical figures often to be the subtle ones! The obnoxious laugh just goes to show the eccentricity of genius.
"Grazie, Signore!" delivered with the utmost perfection by Abraham. Bravissimo!!
I saw this movie when I was 11 years old and it moved me. My appreciation for Mozart and classical too!
In reality, Mozart admired Salieri's talents of a musician and a music teacher.
Salieri was very famous at those times and paradoxically, much more appreciated than Mozart.
That is sorta how the movie portrays things though. We, the audience, appreciate Mozart, but (in the film) the general public doesn’t treat him as much more than a passing fad.
The irony (in the film) is that Salieri craves the public’s adoration *and* he’s also secretly Mozart’s biggest fan. By the end of Mozart’s life, the average music fan would sooner attend a Salieri opera than a Mozart opera and that’s why Salieri is so tormented;
Imagine the excitement you get when you find something new and incredible and want to share it with everyone and make them appreciate it as much as you feel it should be appreciated. That’s how Salieri felt about the one person in Vienna who could steal his thunder. He was torn between singing his praises or sabotaging him. Once he got his thunder back it was hollow because Mozart would always be better even if it was only Salieri who knew it.
So, what was the public’s adoration worth to him at that point? Not a lot. That’s why, at the end of the film, he basks in the company of the mentally ill people who surround him. To him, those people are no less a judge of art, beauty, or character than the perfumed and powdered audiences of the concert hall. He sarcastically accepts their support because if he didn’t laugh he’d cry.
@@barneyboyle6933 I think Mozart was quite appreciated by the public during his time. Moreover, it skyrocketed in the immediate aftermath of his death
@@theccpisaparasite8813 hence why I repeatedly specified “(in the film)”
@@barneyboyle6933 gotcha 😉
@@barneyboyle6933 very well put! :-)
You may not have noticed that Mozart turned Salieri's march into the Marriage of Figaro. When I saw this in the theater years ago, only a few people in the audience laughed at the recognition.
I knew this sounded familiar!
This needs to be higher. I kept re-watching the clip trying to place it, thank you so much!
It’s also in Don Giovanni, and the character Leporello jokes that he’s heard that song before lol
People who "laugh in recognition" suck. Just get the joke, you don't have to vocalize that you got it.
@@ldbboosha Ah, yes. Don't laugh at something you find funny. Else, the fun police will get to you.
This is one of my favourite films. Great acting and an interesting insight into history. Thanks for posting 🎵😎
I can watch thos scene over and over and over! Funny and brilliant in so many ways.
Hulce's laugh to this day is hilarious. He played Mozart with reckless abandon. He should have won the Oscar this year.
Taking F Murray Abraham’s Oscar? Hulce wouldn’t be comfortable with that decision at all, would he? He knows Abraham owned the Oscar when the movie wrapped. We all did.
Once back in the 1990s I was in a Friendlys and there was a guy laughing like this. The whole place was cracking up .
@@michaelreidperry3256 Hulce played a difficult character in a very compelling way. I guess it is all up to your interpretation of what is an, "Oscar." I still love Hulce's rendition of Mozart, though improvised, it still is a classic.
@@jennyrose9454 I wish I was there...lol.
@@nightwolf2666 His Mozart was well done, indeed.
The emperor played pretty well considering he's sight reading a piece for the first time. Cut the guy some slack youtube
In the movie, Saliere said the emperor had no ear at all, so I’m sure it would have sounded the same after days of practice.
In real life the Emperor was an accomplished musician and musical enthusiast in his own right.
@@iannordin5250 Unreliable narrator.
And Sight reading a piece he'd never heard before.
PERFECT ACTORS. ALL OF THEM. AMAZING.
Love how Salieri absolutely dominates the room at first. He's charming, witty, gracious, everything that Mozart isn't. It gets to the point where you genuinely pity Amadeus -- and then he sits down at the piano and almost instantly turns the situation around. Amazing movie!
Yet absurdly he says "that doesn't quite work" and then replaces it with a series of parallel octaves. They sound awful now and would have been garishly ghastly to the ears of classical era folks.
@@Buggaton Nah it sounds good to me. You may think everyone is overeducated in music, but majority are normal people.
@@Buggaton Parallel octaves were only unacceptable when used in the context of harmony. Since he was just playing the melody, there was no voice leading and the rules of common practice didn’t apply. For example, choirs sang in unison at times, but obviously not in the same octave, given that those choirs were comprised of people with a variety of vocal ranges. Essentially, voice leading common practice only applies to voice leading-not unison.
Well, that's F. Murray Abraham playing Salieri....that dude was always intense actor. The movie was based on a Broadway smash and though not totally accurate historically, it's a MASTERPIECE and in my top 5 films of all time.
@@boblozaintherealworld3577 That movie was not even close to historical accuracy.
Salieri and Mozart for example had respect for each other
I once laughed like Mozart at a party and only one other person knew what I was doing. Let's just say there were a lot of WTF WAS THAT LAUGH all through the house.😁👍
I always do the laugh and this happens, so I keep a compilation of him laughing on hand to explain my behaviour 😂😂
@@beckypratt8218 good plan.😁👍
Lmao
I gotta try that sometime. 😂
"Know your audience."
It simply means that 88% of people are sheep. Remember that...and treat them as such. Baaaaa-bye.
It's rumored that Andrew Cunanan also laughed like the way Mozart was played by Tom Hulce. I wonder if anyone remembers who Cunanan was...
I was extremely shocked by this scene. I knew that geniuses automatically create great works, and that ordinary people cannot do that. There are many other scenes in this movie, but this scene is still vivid in my memory from this movie.
thanks for sharing this, it reminded me to finally watch this classic
I love how Mozart just has this unbridled joy for music. He just loves exploring it.
My husband is an artist. But he is handy with a pencil/pen/any writing device. And when he is in frenzy of creativity he reminds me of a child in a toy shop. The joy of exploring and creating. I envy him. I wish I had such feelings when I cook some food to eat 😁
I don't doubt that he was really like that. Just listening to his music brings up images of a lighthearted, joyful young genius who lived for the pure pleasure of creating these awesome sounds. I listened to the entirety of the Serenade for Winds K. 361 just the other day (this movie features snippets of it in the scene where Salieri first encounters Mozart) and that's exactly the feeling I got from it.
that one kid who do not show up in class, yet tops on every exam 😆
That's of course far from the truth. Mozart was extremely hard working and from a very early age. He played, practised and studied for hours and hours every day.
@@thomasley7178 sorry, I'm not talking about mozart.
@@thomasley7178 Oww
3 of us never topped in exams, we were never in class. We were the three stooges with switch blades!
His "class" was in his head.. school is overrated to brilliant minds who cannot be controlled by institutional persuasion.
I have watched this clip from Amadeus so many times on YT over the years, I've lost count. It's always as wonderful as the first time!
My favorite composer and one of my all time favorite movies
Don't forget when earlier in the movie, Salieri was agonizing over every note and chord. Then Wolfie comes in and not only plays it perfectly, but then improves it on the fly. Ouch.
On the fly. Today's "musicians" stand on the shoulders of giants
To be fair, in real life Mozart worked tremendously hard to complete his music.
It made Salieri want to set up Wolfie to do a bad coke deal at a hotel, complete with murder by chainsaw in the shower.... oh wait, I'm getting my F Murray Abraham roles mixed up!
@@MaverickChristian not always. If you look at his hand written music, he rarely makes any revisions. Unlike Beethoven who scratched out and rewrote most of his music. You can even hear it in his music, the smoothness of it.
That is the Gift.
I love the way the bad piano playing of the emperor goes on for so excruciatingly long...
He plays better than me haha
I thought he was supposed to be the one who was good and I was very confused for a while
Honestly, one of the most cringe worthy scenes in cinematic history.
@@giygas9305 to
To sit and cold sight read a piece and be mostly competent in less than 5 minutes is actually pretty impressive.
Such a great movie!!
Thanks for this clip.
I am going to watch this movie again.
I love the part in this scene when his playing is so clearly superior that it draws in all the people in the other room so they can hear too. This reminds me of a story I read about Judy Garland. When she was a little girl practicing her singing on the studio lot, all the others actors and support staff would stop what they were doing and just listen to her sing. These 1 in a 100 million people with this level of artistic talent are truly national treasures.
And for some reason, they all come to sad ends. With every gift comes a curse.
Thank you for sharing that about my fave Ms. Judy Garland💝Another Candle in the Wind
World Treasures
and now world heritage
Yet they do, sadly, almost always end up dying a Pauper's death and only being celebrated when they're gone...
Anyone else like how nice and respectful the emperor was.
Unfortunately, the actor playing him was busted for possessing child pornography, but this was my favourite role of his.
@@catherineshaw1122 principle from ferries bular
@@BasedNeptune not my favourite part of his but I get why you like that one. And yet, he's into child porn.
@@catherineshaw1122 oh yea the dude is a total low life creep, it's a shame because he was in iconic movies. people suck
@@catherineshaw1122 yea..Im glad I didn't know that before,,,Hes a great actor, but a disqusting man.
We enjoyed watching movies together in the cinema and we cried and laughed together, there were many of us in the cinema and we had an ear for the slow pace of laughing and crying.
Genius ..Legend Mozart 🎉🎉
The moment at 8:13 when Salieri moves from enjoying his piece being played well to what Mozart plays is very well acted; the simple subtlety of his facial reaction cannot be improved. I really enjoy F. Murray Abraham and his work over the years. He's very talented as an actor and has proven this to us so many times over.
Yes, and the gradual change in his expression as Mozart's full genius is gradually unleashed. Initially it's just a dead-eyed smile, but later his expression turns to dismay and outright humiliation (8:58), with Salieri's eyes darting around the room to take in the others' reactions.
Yes, and do you remember his role Omar in the scarface? He was creative.
@@Unknown-jt1jo And to jealousy and hatred.
And the Grazie Signore was the coup de grace of this
Up to that point mozart only plays it as it was written. Them oment Salieri's face changes is as soon as mozart strts changing what Salieri wrote.
The part I love most about this scene is that Mozart takes Salieri's piece and turns it into the foundation of "Non pui andrai" from Figaro. The film makers put so much work and thought into this.
???????
It`s not Salieris piece, ok? The whole scene never happened and the piece dont exist, ok? The movie guys "wrote" it for the scene but because they cant write, THEY took it from Figaro..
Scrolling through this commentsection kills more brain cells than 2 weeks of binge drinking...
gerdokurt r/whooooosh
ah, a man of culture and good hearing; I salute you sir
@@gerdokurt You might want to indulge other people's ignorance in certain matters instead of being so adamant about it since all of us are ignorant of one thing or another. In your case, for example, to the fact that drinking doesn't kill brain cells, that's just a myth that the prohibitionists pushed as part of their propaganda campaign against alcohol in the early 20th century.
@@gerdokurt I think you lose more brain cells blowing steam out of your ears
this is also my favorite scene from Amadeus. One of my favorite movies of all time.
Can see this extract a hundred times and never tired of seeing it again and again it is brilliant
I’ve seen this movie 100 times and still enjoy every minute of it
Whats the name of the movie...please
@@francispakhuongte4221 Amadeus
@@Acord718 Thanks
It's one of those movie which never gets old. The woman which portrays his wife, is also very easy om the eyes.
Same here🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Forgive me, Majesty. I'm a vulgar man. But I assure you, my music is not." His music is devine. And Mozart is not insulting Salieri - he's just making Salieri's music so much better.
it insulted Salieri because Mozart just made him appear to me nuthin more than an average music teacher... Salieri when in Mozarts presence is always having to choke down how much more of a natural genius without the effort that salieri has to salve over... so it pisses him off and believes God himself is patronizing him thru Mozarts gift.
Salieri does not approve ;) #thuglife
@@kevinpittman2517 You can only take offense, not give it. Nobody can be responsible for your feelings but yourself, Salieri!
@@katesmith8005 Touche! Amen to that.
@DeadlyButSilent2 Are you feeling better by writing your comment? Good for you!
Fabulous!!!!
One of my favourites, have seen it many times. Then one day I saw the director's cut and it adds to an already amazing film.
Salieri is like a coordinated rhythm structured guitarist, Mozart is like the fluent and spontaneous lead guitarist that can improvise riffs and solos. Both together could've been amazing collaboration imo.
One of my favourite scenes in the movie. A hard working musician gets bested by a little jerk whose natural abilities effortlessly surpasses him.
exactly! I love how Salieri says "Grazie, Signore" LOL
This happens in all skill pursuits. It’s why you should focus on your own self improvement.
There is always some that is better than you
As a professional musician for 50+ years I wish I could say it hasn't happened to me
@@thomaseriksson6256 I wonder who was better than Mozart.
As a music critic once said ‘In Saleri and Mozart we see the difference between the talent which does what it can, and genius which does what it must’.
Very underrated comment
@@bm-ub6zc here, here!
Meanwhile "Too many notes" was a legit criticism
Блестяще сказано!!!
"... which does what it must to be a w...ker". Absolutely!
The way Salieri looks at His Majesty ...when he started hammering the key ... I feel him 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Eine der besten Filme, die ich je gesehen habe mit brillanten Schauspielern🎶🎼🌻
I love watching Salieri's eyes follow Mozart's fingers on the keys as he plays and fleshes out the tune and improves it to master class material, it is watching Salieri's head explode as he realizes how gifted Mozart IS.
The actor that plays salieri captures all this so well. It’s a masterclass from all involved and so underrated You can feel all the passion, hurt and especially jealousy just in his eyes
@@anthonydavies35F. Murray Abraham. He won thr Oscar over Tom Hulce, who played Mozart. Extraordinary cast all around. Pity the actor playing the emperor turned out to be a pedophile. He was marvelous as well.
I love how his deepest and most sincere bow is to Salieri. Out of all that people in the room, Salieri is the only one he truly respects and admires.
Which is why it is so funny that Salieri should be so riled by Mozart.
@@The_Gallowglass that part was made up for the movie. They were respectful colleagues
@@bigcityprod I know. I meant in the movie.
Ah the drama of Hollywood when history paints a different picture. I used to think Salieri greatly disliked Mozart as a kid, until my mum taught me better. She taught me much about Mozart and classical music in general.
@@The_Gallowglass jealousy know no bounds
Every time I see this masterpiece I wonder how it is possible that the protagonist actor has ended up forgotten. He played Mozart supremely.
One of my favorite movies! I saw Tom Hulce in an excellent play in New Haven in the 80s. He was superb. I think his heart always remained with the theater. A few years back, I'd read he was directing the Broadway hit Awakenings, I believe. 💜
He retired from acting in the mid-90s to focus strictly on stage production. He was always involved in theatre. Was nominated for Emmys, Golden Globes and an Oscar (for this, only to lose to his co-star).
this whole thing is beyond genius, what amazing actors, the cast, the costumes, just perfect
Without fear of sounding hyperbolic, this is one of my favorite movie scenes. The characters; the statements; the sense of order, decorum and propriety, and how Mozart just shatters them with all his unassuming innocence. This scene is rich with characters and the actors who played them.
This comment gave me AIDS
it's so tense, gotta love Forman for this moments
Very impressed with your disclaimer for the hyperbole. That is my biggest complaint of the internet of the last 15 years.
I hate hyperbole.
It’s either lazy writing/thinking/speaking or it’s clickbait. Either way it’s cringe.
Hats off to you sir.
Liebe 😊
@@adamludlow1977 OMG, hyperbole is so annoying it makes me want to explode!
Child prodigies: crushing self-esteem and the will to live since the 18th century
Bruh 🤣
@@Captainrobert007 one of the best comments on youtube :))
You forgot the whole dead by 40 thing, too
@@laurabeane8862 ... And thank goodness for that.
that was pretty funny☺️
I have watched this segment a hundred times!
Pure class, one of the best videos on YT
I'm usually not a stickler for "remastered" editions of films but this in particular is mesmerizing! Looks so crisp and colorful. The texture of the wigs and clothing is so lively. Just gorgeous.
DEFINITELY watch the director's cut then! It's all like that, of course- remastered, etc - plus, seeing SO MANY scenes that are BRAND NEW to you, in a movie you've seen a billion times - it'll trip you the F out!
@@vixenwinters6375 will definitely look for it ❤️
You could even see the sweat on the side of Mozarts face. That makeup crew got right on it.
You didn't notice Baron van Swieten is dressed in hundred year old fashion compared to the rest of the court? Even the wig dates 1680-1720. This is not supported by contemporary paintings of him. They show him on the fashions of the time, 1770s, not the late 1600s.
Whether this costuming is done to paint him as a provincial hunyuk (he was Dutch) or out of ignorance of the costume dept, I don't know, but it does the man injustice.
I swear Salieri is like Squidwards.
ART TAKES TIME!
Mozart is Sponge Bob but who is Patrick?
@@CharlieBrown20XD6 Emanuel Schikaneder
I have no doubt the artists who created SpongeBob modeled their personalities from Salieri and Mozart. It's too obvious.
The emperor.
Sensational and beautiful film, a work of art!
This is one of the best scenes of the film. I could watch it hundreds of times!!!
Poor Salieri, if he’d been born 30 years earlier he would have been the genius of his time. But he had to born in the same era as Mozart.
You dont know anything about this time period
let us say salieri at this point is selling out his concerts and is just chill
Naw man, Salieri really is a historic yawner and mostly famous only since this movie. BBOOOORRRRIIINNNNGGG. Right down the Autobahn CPE Bach had just finished ending the Baroque musical era by deciding 1 melody with accompaniment is cool. Baby Beethoven was already more interesting and Hayden was in London writing a fucking symphony every week or two.
Salieri and Mozart were really good friends, inspite of their professional rivalry. He tutored his son after his death, and Mozart himself wrote in his diaries about Salieri's support for his work. They competed, but the animosity has been exaggerated by time.
Salieri and Mozart’s relationship was professional. This movie great exaggerated any feelings of jealousy between the two. Both were masters of their craft
I think the most impressive part of this, whether an exaggeration of Mozart's true abilities or not, is the fact that he figured out the piece on hearing a sloppy, unpracticed sight reading. If you can do that and know what the composer is thinking, you really are a genius.
Yes. The modifications are an added bonus, but it would still be impressive enough if he didn’t do it.
Music is a language, it has a flow to it, that's why everyone can tell when the wrong note is played, even when you're never heard the song before.
A well trained musician could do this without necessarily being a genius. They do this sort of thing all the time.
I get excited just getting one note right from ear. I once got a melody exact after hearing something once bc I was fooling around and my sis said it sounded like something else and played it. Felt so good I can’t imagine ppl that have perfect pitch.
He actually did even more impressive things. The choral song Miserere Mei Dues (look up the wonderful video of it being performed by the Tenebrae Choir) was originally only performed by the Sistine Chapel during Holy Week, so you couldn't get sheet good sheet music for it. Over the course of 100+ years a few people had tried to pen it, but everyone agreed that their attempts fell far short of the original's glory. Kind of a holy, exclusive song only for the Roman Catholic Church. So along comes 14-year-old Mozart, who attended two performances of it, memorizing the entire thing and writing it down. Supposedly he had it 99% after the first listen, and only needed the 2nd to fill in a couple parts he wasn't positive on. Upon discovering that their sacred, secret-ish song had been "stolen" by the 14 year old virtuoso, instead of being angry, the Pope was elated, using it as an opportunity to praise God, saying that He had gifted Mozart with these wondrous talents.
LOVE this scene. so well done.
An, absolutely, perfect scene....brilliant.