CFP Committee Chair talks Cincinnati, Coastal Caroilina rankings | College Football on ESPN
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- 게시일 2024. 04. 19.
- CFP Selection Committee Chair Gary Barta speaks with Rece Davis about the College Football Playoff Top 25 rankings, focusing on where the undefeated Cincinnati Bearcats and Coastal Carolina Chanticleers were placed.
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What a scam this playoff is.
Dang this committee sucks
Beat Texas? So did TCU. Coastal beat 2 undefeated teams for their only losses including one who beat Iowa State!
Wait coastal beat iowa state
@@ga301 no they beat Louisiana who beat Iowa State
@@rolltide9719 Lousiana didnt just beat them, they killed them too, so I don't know why the cyclones are at 10, should be like 15
I was rooting for Coastal. But when you duck your conference championship game, you have no one to blame but yourself. Coastal doesn't deserve anything from the committee
@@88jaspersimmons OSU ducked half an entire season your point? And coastal didnt duck anything they played BYU short notice when they didnt have to
Translation to English:
"Well, you see, we here at the Committee take a look at not only your record and strength of schedule, but also the market for each team and how much revenue they can bring in.
Unfortunately for Coastal, Cincinnati is a larger market and that's why they've earned their NY6 bowl and that's also why Notre Dame is still in the top 4."
The truth is, both teams should have gotten a NY6 game at the very least. The small teams shouldn’t be left to fight for table scraps among themselves. We should be fighting for each other and both of these teams are deserving.
Record is meaningless when you don't play a single team that doesn't finish in the Top 20 ... like Cincinnati ... Strength of schedule automatically eliminates most group of 5 teams in any given year.
@@johnnaylor1706 Coastal beat top 25 teams and is ranked even lower, so your argument is invalid
@@johnnaylor1706 The problem is some games are meaningless. Like Oklahoma losing to Kansas State. How do we just forget that game happened, and at the same time act like UC and CC don’t play anyone?
It’s also easy to claim SOS when the committee manipulated rankings to justify certain teams being ranked at the top. It’s why you see 4 B12 teams, despite the B12 being horrible this year. 0-3 against Sunbelt and half their wins were against FCS schools.
8 team playoff. Five automatic bids for Power 5 champions. Two At-large bids. And One automatic bid for the best Group of 5 team. This is what we need. Or the Group of 5 needs to leave.
Group of 5 needs to leave ncaa and form their own league
I like the idea, but don't know if they're ready to go that far yet. I think one of the problems is that the committee also determines strength of schedule and ranks the teams according to their own "flexible" criteria. This helps the power 5 reps on the committee to stack the deck on conferences with the most teams ranked in the top 25.
I would like the NCAA to stop the neutral site and, 2 vs 1, payday scheduling the power 5 are engaged in. These methods ensure it being extremely unlikely that an Alabama playing Boise St on the smurf turf or Ohio State playing in Orlando against UCF. Those group of 5 schools could increase their national perception with home noncon games that are more winnable since they are usually early season games. Every series should be home and home. Group of 5 can help build their brands that way. BUT power 5 and ND will never let that happen because of what they could lose... Revenue, Perception, and Recruits.
@@jasonlueger7232 They might have too.
@@timmeyer9191 Yeah it's all political. And ridiculous. That's why we need this playoff with automatic bids. Because it's the only way the Group of 5 will ever have a chance.
@@SuperSirianRigel well, in order to get an 8 team playoff to work, they would probably need to lose one regular season game (for finals and other academic purposes) and have game 12/13 something like the Big Ten did this year during Champions' week when the conference title game was played yet the other teams also got a TBD 9th game.
Also, all the conferences should do away with divisions and play something close to round robin with 1-2 guaranteed rivalry games and at least 9 conference games. This would help get the 2 best teams in the conference finals instead of leaders of strong and weak divisions. Conference title games could serve as elimination games for spots in the playoffs for the losers.
Still, there's too much money in the bowl system. Would an expanded playoff make those other bowls even more obsolete?
I think the first baby step would have to be the elimination of divisions to help get head to head match ups between the 2 best teams (rematch or not) in the conference title games. If that happened this year, we would have seen an undefeated Alabama/1 loss A&M rematch in the SEC title game rather than a 2 loss Florida team who got in because they played in the East division.
OVERRATED ND at #4 is a absolute joke overall. If Lawrence would have been in the first match up ND would have 2 losses.
I hope Cincy to rout georgia to show up the committee
Cincinnati and Coastal Carolina are getting hosed here, reminds me of 2009 with Boise State and TCU. Both of those teams had proven success against good P5 schools. Whether it is the Old BCS or the BCS+1 which is what this "playoff" is, a non legacy, non P5 team will never get a chance.
Cincinnati is this years UCF ... best win is a 3 point squeaker over No. 24 ... how does a 3 point win over a team that didn't even make the Top 20 earn you a top 4 ranking ? You wanna be in the CFP, put a team on ya schedule that wears Big Boy pants.
@@johnnaylor1706 in terrible weather, btw who is it who determines how these teams are ranked? Cincinnati used to be in a power conference as was UCF when the Big East was around. If you think these teams can't hang with the big boys...let them get exposed in a playoff game.
@David Krappenschitz I just believe if you go unbeaten, you have earned an opportunity to win it all. That's why you let the games get played
@David Krappenschitz Cincinnati wasn't shown to be a fraud at all, they were a hair away from beating a team that was in the NC 2 years ago. Coastal played against a Liberty program that has been on the rise for a while now. But conference affiliation is the only thing that matters right?
@David Krappenschitz I am simply looking at the bigger picture. When it is all said and done, these bowl games are auditions these players trying to get their names called in April. I think you can at least agree with that last part.
I think cincinnati and coastal should both be in the new year six.not just one group of five
At the least. I think Cincy or even Coastal deserved the chance to play in the tourney over a Notre Dame squad that couldn't win out the conference, or even Ohio st team that played half a season.
Bring back the computers
Make an 8 team playoff.. This is going to become a yearly issue if you dont bump up the number of teams in it.
Increasing the numbers by itself won’t matter. We have to have 6 guaranteed spots or they will just manipulate the rankings and keep teams out of the top 8 anyway. 6 automatic bids to the top 6 conferences+2 at large bids.
Of course the dream scenario would be a 16 team playoff with 10 automatic bids for each conference champ and 6 at large bids. Unfortunately we are going to have to take it a step at a time.
Corporate AF
The committee knows it’s all about viewership and ratings and what’s gonna make the most money not who the best deserving teams are
I respectively disagree, your statement is an excuse used around the country and not fact. If it were Hawaii vs Wyoming in a playoff game it would still be a sellout and people would still watch!! Like I said - this is an excuse used way to often!!!!
I know I would be much more excited to see a Cincy have the chance to play in it, then watch Notre Dame get blasted by Bama.
Only having 4 teams will always be a problem. Open it up 2 more rounds to 16 teams and have a real playoff!
16 would be good. I think 12 would be good so it gives motivation for the top 4 because they would get a bye week
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Just 8, 16 works okay for FCS but makes no sense for bigger school, especially when people look towards the draft after conference championship games
I like 8. 4 is too small agreed but 16 is too many. The gap between 1 and 16 is just too wide. We already watch teams like ND and Oklahoma get embaressed every year in the 4 slot.
5 conference champs as long as they are ranked in top 12 and 3 more at large bids with the last spot for a group of 5 champ if they are undefeated. That's what I would have.
I love watching criminals trying to explain themselves on camera.
I’m glad I got the clarification on the orange bowl
Coastal Carolina should got the new year six bid too
Guess Coastal should try to join a bigger conference, may I suggest the ACC, maybe big 12?
yep, we'll take Coastal. Let the little 10 have ND. Ohio lovers on the committee since day one that's why
Remember last season when Cincinnati lost to Ohio st 42-0. People don’t wanna see blow outs like that in the cfp. Don’t get me wrong there a good team but to complete with Ohio st Alabama and Clemson you have to be elite. You have to have nfl talent on the field all around.
I agree that the CFP committee is a bit biased towards Power 5 and ND. Probably because the committee has many members with ties to those conferences.
But the biggest issue is there is always a general assumption that while there are some decent teams at the top, the rest of the group of 5 conferences are weaker than the lower teams of the power 5.
Sure they could expand the playoffs, but it may still be possible to better the chances a group of 5 team can get in. I have 2 suggestions.
1. The NCAA should stop the payout games vs group of 5, where an Alabama pays a million dollars to Boise State to come to Tuscaloosa without a return trip to Boise ID.
Outside the conference schedule, each FBS team should be allowed only 1 regular season neutral site game (unless it has to be moved because of a hurricane or other disaster) and 1 home game vs an FCS school (unless there is a cancellation by your opponent and you need the fill the slot but only if your school didn't cancel). All other games vs FBS should be home and home series, my place then your place- No exceptions!
The reason is that early non conference games tend to favor the home teams. If more power 5 teams had to travel to Boise St or UCF, the chances are greater that the group of 5 team might win. These small increases in wins would help the group of 5 increase their brands and therefore help with recruiting and perception that those conferences could be just as strong as the Big 12 or Pac 12.
2. The second thing to be done is the elimination of conference divisions. Every conference should play 9 conference games in a more round robin format with 1-2 guaranteed rivalry games. It would be similar to the Big 12 system.
This would help put the 2 best in conf title games and more likely eliminate the loser from playoff contention.
If that was done this year, the SEC championship would have been undefeated Alabama vs 1 loss A&M. 2 loss Florida would not have played. If Florida hadn't lost to LSU, A&M would have still been in the title game because there was a head to head win vs Florida.
Of course there are going to be times when there are 3 or 4 one loss teams in a conference by the end of a season, so head to head match ups, margin of victories, and rankings should be taken into consideration in those instances.
Before we expand the playoffs and lengthen the season for these students, let's try these options to try to help balance the field.
ESPN can we please have Tom Luginbill on for every College Football show & segment. He's been about the only person that talks without bias for G5 teams. He keeps it real about who is really real & who just looks good.
TCU fan here. Trust us we know the pain of getting screwed over. It sucks don’t it.
Brutal choice that one year and before that, the Boise - TCU matchup was a joke too.
Going to a format similar to basketball's March Madness will silence alot of arguments.
I’m an Alabama fan I’ve always been a 4 team playoff guy. Until this year seeing how Cincinnati got treated by the committee and watching Florida lose twice and barely drop. Yes, they played Bama tough but that loss vs LSU was the worst loss by a top 10 team all year.
This playoff is screwing up College football as a whole theres only 6 schools that have a chance to go to the playoff so all the 4 and 5 stars go there to compete for championships which makes it hard for a team like cincy with a bunch of 3 star guys to get in
So beating Penn State when they were #8, Michigan when they were #21 and Wisconsin, where you guys ranked #16 isn't enough to get the top ten, but Iowa State losing to Louisiana and Florida losing to LSU gets them into the top 10, it doesn't matter much if they beat Oklahoma in the beginning of the year if they lose in the more important game.
What team u speaking on
Don’t forget Texas was unranked when isu beat them and they moved isu to #6 after which was a 3 spot move
You forget it that penn state, Michigan state and Wisconsin were all overanked this year right? I mean didn’t penn lose almost all their games? it was a joke
@@jimbo0386 well Penn State ended the season on a 4 game winning streak. Also they may have been over ranked, but they were ranked, and being the reason multiple ranked teams fall out of the rankings is something.
UCF was denied entry in the playoffs in 2017. They went on to beat Auburn in the NY6. Auburn was ranked 10th with wins over #1 Alabama and #2 Georgia. They clearly are not picking the best but Oklahoma, Alabama, Clemson, and Ohio or the champion from one of the Power 5 if one of those teams has 2 or more loses on the season. It's a complete joke, and everyone who believes in the system is a shill or idiot fanboy 😂
I wanna know whats the reason why a 2 loss Oklahoma team jumped and undefeated Cincy team someone help me make sense of that
Man really said we didn't get to watch their last 3 games
Perfect format:
CFP Playoffs. 3 rounds. First Round, Semi Final, National Championship:
1. Bama vs 8. Cincinnati
2. Clemson vs 7. Florida
3. Ohio State vs 6. Oklahoma
4. Notre Dame vs 5. Texas A&M
NY6 games:
9. UGA vs 20. Texas
10. Iowa State vs 19. Louisiana
11. Indiana vs 18. Miami
12. Coastal vs 17. USC
13. North Carolina vs 16. BYU
14. Northwestern vs 15. Iowa
This would be more entertaining, and give teams initiative to get in the top 20. There would also be less bias towards Group of 5 teams.
Bro Cincy, Florida, and Oklahoma would all get blown out in the first round. A&M and ND might be competitive but if ND wins what do you have? Exactly what you have right now.
@@alexroberson4454 yeah I think so too, but hey, you never know.
Why would 3 loss Florida be in of UGA?
@@Trimmxthy you'll have to ask the CFP committee that. This is the actual CFP Top 20 rankings.
The problem with expanding the playoffs is it takes away from the great regular season that college football has. I think there can and maybe should be changes to the committee but not to the four team system. Does anyone think Cincinnati deserves to be in the playoff? If they beat Georgia and then have another undefeated season then yes
College football- we don’t settle it on the field. We have a committee determine your fate.
So sick of the ridiculous politics. So sick of deserving teams like Cincinnati and Coastal Carolina getting hosed and not getting a fair shake. They need to expand the playoff and stop the garbage politics from interfering with letting these athletes compete in college football.
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Coastal gonna beat Liberty. Cincy gonna beat UGA. Tulsa gonna beat Mississippi state.
Unless the whole team opts out 0 chance Cincinnati beats uga
Group of 5 need to just create there own 4 Team Playoff at the end of the year. Because they are never going to get into CFP Playoffs. Too much money involved and the Big Boys at the table will not let that happen.. If Cincinnati beats Georgia in Peach Bowl there is going to be a serious out cry from fans..
Imagine if Cincinnati beats Georgia in the bowl game that would be gnarly I don’t think they will because since Daniels has played Georgia has looked great but if Cincinnati can get the job down this will prove they were worthy of being given a spot
They watched Cincinnati week to week except interconference or the last three weeks. So what are they watching? What a joke.
How the begeezes do ya get in the Top10 when you best win is a 3 point squeaker over team currently ranked 24 ? Line up kids ...everybody gets a trophy. If any JV team deserved a spot in the Top 10
My only complaint was that, to my eyes, the committee looked for an excuse to give ND the last spot because of 1. The SEC teams dominate the Top 10 every year (4 in 2020, 2019, 2018 ...) and 2. Having 2 teams from 1 conferences kills viewership from region that didn't make the cut.
They haven’t played in almost a month before that game. They blew out every other opponent besides ucf
If you thought Cincinnati and Coastal Carolina were getting in to the “good ol “boys club of the cfp you are smoking some serious weed. It’s about logo appeal. ND, Ohio State... in the words of perhaps our hapless future idiot president... “c’mon man”.
I don't think anyone is surprised, but you gotta voice your objections and then turn the TV off on the 1st if you want to support a change.
Ohio State in with 6 - 0 ???? Why . Florida looks much better than O.S.
Shut your tap, with three losses. Like why are people stupid . Florida lost to a team that actually had a fighters chance .
0 beats 3 in the game of losses you morphadike!!! try not to lose to a sorry a$$ LSU team and you may have squeaked by ND.
@S Ragsdale what @M S is trying to say that is 0 loss Scorecard looks better than 3 losses on a scorecard... not to mention 2 ranked wins even if you only played 6 games looks better then 1 ranked win bro...which I agree... O H... but clemson will still beat us one way or the other...smh
I said the same thing yesterday and I got a verbal beat down.
@S Ragsdale 👍👍👍
Coastal Carolina deserved a good bowl game against a good squad. The college football playoff is garbage. Shows you it's all about money because there is no way Ohio State is #3 or deserves in the playoff. Time to get the old guys out of the ncaa
Cincinnati ain't in because their SOS is trash. Coastal not in because their SOS is trash and they were 5-7 last year just now doing something. Next year, they gonna be in the Top 15. College football need to stop having these future schedules. Make your schedule for the next season during t hff e offseasons. Cincinnati and Coastal want respect play Power 5 Top 25. Cincinnati play Notre Dame and Indiana next year. If they beat them and go undefeated.. they should be in. I remember UCF soft schedule.... UCF is nowhere to be found now. Group of 5 teams gotta play top power 5 teams yearly to get respected and the schools in the Group of 5 gotta be winning as well.
UCF would have beat Alabama 😂
@@jumpstreet2425 stop the cap 🤦🏾♂️
@@Trimmxthy not cap at all. They thought auburn was gone prove they point. Auburn beat Alabama... Ucf put it on them.
Dude is a clown