Is Justin Fields being negatively impacted by the Ohio State QB stigma? | Get Up
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- 게시일 2024. 04. 26.
- The Get Up crew looks ahead to the 2021 NFL Draft, discussing how Ohio State QB Justin Fields will be evaluated by teams.
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Let him fall so he can go to a contender. Appreciate that ESPN.
Yeah, let’s get him to KC or the Ravens
@@j0epark1 pats
@@j0epark1 huh? if he goes to KC or the ravens he won't be playing
@@sharrybaythompson1935 yeah, I know. I was being sarcastic because the ones with franchise QBs are the only contenders.
Lol then it’ll mean less about him and more about the team he goes to. It won’t be the same as maybe Lawrence taking JAX to the playoffs.
Who’s here after Fields lights up Clemson?!
NO ONE!!! It's it amazing how Fields played arguably the best game since CFP series and no one is talking about it. We understand the media driven love for Lawrence is behind this.
@@darzeilhall3346 it’s crazy how one game 2 years ago has solidified Trevor Lawrence’s draft stock. Literally played a bad game and not a single segment talking about his draft stock or the fact that in 2 of the 3 games he’s played in vs top teams he’s a middle of the pack performer.
No one was talking about how Bama doesn’t develop quarterbacks when Tua was being drafted
Cause who else did they have that was a high draft pick besides tua? Two completely different things.
No Ohio state QB is good at the nfl
I thought you said usc time time again where you not when ask darnold baker before this year see how well organization know what their doing like chiefs ravens bills
@@nathanielhall6702 So who are these "multiple QBs" drafted in the first round from OSU? Haskins, ok. And.......
@@nathanielhall6702 wym it’s just 1 OSU qb in the 1st round stop lying
If I'm Justin, in what freaking world would I want to go to the trashcan Jets, I rather fall to Atlanta, Carolina, 49ers, Steelers, Saints in a heartbeat.
Right, Atlanta would be perfect...
He just laid 6 td's on Clemson.
Fields is nothing close to haskins he been a good kid since qb1 on netflix humble and very good guy
facts, I don't know why this even is a topic of discussion typical ESPN aka "The mickey mouse" network" 🤔🤔🤔
The point is ohio state has never had a great nfl qb....Never in its history lol
@@Mike_Tx that's not being logical or realistic and this coming from uga bulldogs fan, remember he was here first, we made the mistake of letting this kid go over Jake freaking fromm🤦🏼♂️ not many programs can say that, you do know that right? This kid is straight winner point blank period! and is what the NFL is trending towards right now any way d. Haskins is pp j.fields is a dual threat that's a big difference smdh a more mobile dual threat QB is what NFL want's right now, just saying 🤷🏼♂️espn is reaching like always smdh
People forget that Haskins is a one-year starter and even Urban Meyer said he wasn't ready for the NFL.
@@bigpthedawg1970 Lets walk down memory lane here for a minute. In 2016 UGA signed a QB who was considered either 1 or 2 at the position by all scouting services. He was also a top 10 national prospect by all scouting services except for ESPN. Thats Jacob Eason. He won the starting job as a sophmore in 2017 after a shaky true frosh season and was injured on a late hit during the season opener. From there Fromm came in and essentially stole the job from him. Fromm then lead the team to the National Championship game as a true frosh. Justin Fields then as the #1 or #2 QB prospect depending on what scouting service you look at, committed to UGA weeks after a true frosh had just led that same school to the NC game. He was destined to transfer the moment that happened. Fromm wasn't great at UGA but he was never bad enoiugh to outright lose his job. He also never struck me as an NFL level talent so I saw an entire 4yr Aaron Murray type career possibly unfolding for him, which would've meant either Fields transferred or waited until his SR year to be the starter. Fields looked very uncomfortable as a passer in the short spurts he saw the field at UGA.
The statement about Ohio State QBs is very true. I don't care where he was recruited first, in fact no one cares about that. Do we say Baker Mayfield started at Texas Tech, or Kyler Murray started at A&M, or Russell Wilson started at NC State, the only school that puts a claim on a highly drafted QB who may likely be a star is Ohio State with Joe Burrow. He also pays homage to his Ohioan roots which doesn't really make it nefarious. Fields is Ohio State's product as a football player. I like the kid and I hope he does well but throughout the years, after a number of different types of QBs have come through Ohio State none of them and I do mean none of them have ever been good in the NFL. Since 1955 OSU has had 18 QBs drafted. Of those 6 never played in the NFL. 1 spent most of his career as a punter (Tom Tupa) and another moved to WR before completely disappearing from the league altogether (Terrelle Pryor). The QB with the most starts from OSU in the NFL is undrafted Mike Tomzcak, he had 73. Then it's Kent Graham at 38, Terrelle Pryor at 30 then there's a 3way tie between aforementioned punter Tom Tupa, Bobby Hoying and get this Dwayne Haskins at a whopping 13! After a tumultuous 2yrs Haskins is tied for 4th all time for most NFL starts for an OSU QB. Depending on where he's drafted and how soon he plays Fields could very well move in to 4th all time by himself next season, SMH.
these are the dumbest circumstantial questions I have ever heard of, losing so much respect for espn and mass media as a whole
mike tanabon got fired for a reason this guy spews stupid answers...this is what happens when everyone is off
Its a legit question. Ohio state has never had a good nfl qb...never so obviously they aren't preparing then for nfl qb play at Ohio state
@@Mike_Tx you need your head checked if you actually think the performance of a qb from Ohio State in 1990 is indicative of the performance of one in 2020.
Listen to All the Smoke for real analysis.
@@Mike_Tx Alabama isn’t preparing QB’s either.....
Hope fields slide in a draft and be on a good organization and prove everybody wrong
But that won’t prove anything. It’ll prove that a solid starter can go to a great team and good things will happen. Something we already knew. It won’t say much about him individually.
@@1anth falcon's better draft him if he's still there Matt Ryan is not it LMAO
@@1anth What did Andrew Luck prove? Bad organisations ruin good QB prospects?
@@mpg3946 and luck was a bust and got hurt and they say that tl so that will happen to him
Why is everybody coming for THE Ohio state?
Desmond "salty" Howard....hey Desmond what did he do to your Michigan team last year?...asking for a friend 🤔🤔
Well he is a Michigan guy so you know he ain't gonna give Fields the benefit of the doubt.
@@Quaaannn2306 Dude is always negative about Ohio State.
@@Quaaannn2306 Haskins has ZERO bearings on whether Fields succeeds in the NFL. This is called critical thinking.
@@Quaaannn2306 Justin fields is far better then any other Ohio state quarterback. He’s got a better arm then Haskins and is the most athletic quarterback in the draft. Justin fields has all the tools to succeed at the next level just need to get the ball out of his hands faster. Justin fields has the highest Ceiling of any player in this draft in my opinion. He’s a generational talent. He has two bad games his whole career and people wanna hate on him smh.
@@Quaaannn2306 Justin fields is a way more accurate passer then Dwayne Haskins. And don’t even compare Braxton Miller to Justin fields is a sensational arm talent. And his the most athletic quarterback in all of America. Justin fields is trice the quarterback Dwayne Haskins was. And Dwayne Haskins played a different scheme under urban Meyer. Justin fields has the highest ceiling of any player in this draft class. And Is gonna be a great nfl quarterback. You trippin
20 / 20 hindsight....at the 2:02 mark. This guy says J. Fields was playing his last game when OSU plays Clemson.. Justin Fields had other plans.
“Ohio state QB stigma”? It’s one guy lmao. I swear ESPN has been hiring fiction writers instead of analysts. Desmond how has QB development been at Michigan?
I get what you saying but it's been at least a thing on the internet for a year even before Haskins was drafted. But that theory is not founded on anything solid because OSU has had a lot of talented college QB's but none of them were thought to be NFL Franchise QB's besides Haskins so the myth and stigma that goes along with it is unjustified.
@@crisalexander1185 I’ll add this to your point. USC has produced 19 nfl quarterbacks and none of them have been super successful either. Is that USCs fault? There’s a difference between seeing data and then drawing some half assed conclusions. It’s embarrassing seeing ESPN entertain this nonsense.
Well not entirely. Ohio State hasn’t produced a good NFL QB prospect since 1999.
Troy Smith, Terrelle Pryor, Cardale Jones, Dwayne Haskins have all been busts
They have Tom Brady case closed
@@brian2440 but none of those dudes were actually highly scouted except Haskins......so OSU is 0 for 1
Jeez, fields will look great against lawerence and then he will be a possible#1 again! I hate this stuff...
I’d like to see that it will be a good game and of course not a big fan of Clemson but they are good!
Called it
Sorry but I wouldn't draft a QB from the Buckeyes. They simply don't pan out in the NFL. Troy Smith, JT Barrett, Terrelle Pryor, Cardale Jones, Braxton Miller and pretty soon, Fields will be next. These guys are either out of the league, switched positions or on practice squads.
Accurate
half of those dudes weren't een nfl prospects
Haskins too
Braxton Miller wasn’t even a QB, JT Barrett was a 6 rounder, Cardale Jones was a fourth rounder
These arguments are so ridiculous. Oregon had plenty of 1st round flame outs in the NFL. Akili Smith, Joey Harrington, Marcus Mariota. Yet somehow Justin Herbert looks like a future all pro. This happens at schools all over the country. Yet people love to hate the Buckeyes so they have developed this talking point about OSU QB being overrated. All while Haskins has been the only 1st rounder of them all
Justin, just go out there and have fun on the Fields! You're already great!
🌽’y
Tua needs to have more time . He’s a great qb he needs a have a better offensive system than what Miami has rn
Man wat it sounds like u saying he needs help every qb needs help he has good wr and that o line is nice
How come we don't have these same kind of conversations about USC QBs considering pretty much every QB that came from that school has failed
Shut up Desmond you can’t be saying that we don’t have good Qb’s do you see how Just Fields made it top four last season in the heismen trophy
Desmond is so salty his mighty wolverines are nothing more than sub-mediocre sissies that can't beat OSU if their lives depended on it!
Historically the Heisman is a bad indicator for success in college football.
@@brian2440 and a misguided stigma is a better indicator for success?
Says Fields looks good except 6 games yet there are guys in the top ten that opted out without playing in 2020.
Fields is a baller, needs more reps. Hes going to fail if he starts as a rookie. The issue with QB's from OSU is they have so much more talent than everyone else is they dont know how hard it is to play QB. Your offensive line is great, your RB is great, your recievers all run 4.4 or better, your defensive is great, 10-15 guys go to the NFL every year, 3 or 4 in the first round.
Stay in college and get the reps, be the first pick next year.
It’s funny how the media was so high and hyped for Tua now they want the dolphins to trade him 🙄🤦🏾♂️
There’s no way he hasn’t even played fully yet lmao ESPN is stupid.
Maybe because he’s had no business starting over Fitzpatrick this season with how the games have gone.
Its not 'the media'. Its just some people on TV who said it. Others said that injuries alone should have disqualified him. There wasn't a singular media narrative on Tua. Or anyone else for that matter.
Yes, yes he is.
No Ohio state QB is good at the nfl
Troy Smith was actually good until he got sick and lost 30 pounds. Joe Burrow was a buckeye for 3 years.
How soon will people realize there is no “OSU QB” stigma. That suggests OSU has consistently produced highly drafted QBs that haven’t worked. They had Haskins who was an urban Meyer player and then that guy in the 1970s. Pryor was a 3rd round pick by Al Davis’ corpse. OSU QBs are never drafted to be franchise guys lmao
Definitely Ohio State can produce any other position on the football field except for QB. I don’t know why that is but thats the truth
No Ohio state QB is good at the nfl summary
@@theloserkid technically 0/1 but nobody looked at Cardale or Troy Smith and said “wow there’s a franchise QB”. Can’t be bad at what you’re NOT drafted for
@@Welcome2TheOhioState Troy Smith was good and starting his the Ravens, but got sick and nearly died, derailing his career.
Except but haters want to regurgitate that nonsense as if it’s good analysis
Ok now you guys are just making stuff up too get just fields off his game
Na he took it personally
@@davidstutz2632 right with a bruised side he lit up the number 2 team in the county
Country
McShay is crazy if he thinks the falcons are taking a receiver first round Lmaooo
They’re taking a QB
Let’s go Bucks🇺🇸👑💪🏼
No. He is being impacted by the wimpy ten by not playing football. Or very little football.
No Ohio state QB is good at the nfl
@@theloserkid
Not yet.
Justin is a franchise quarterback. Todd Mcshay is wrong more than he is right.
Never ever took McShay or Kiper seriously.
You must be watching someone else play..
Yes but history often repeats itself we will probably be having the next time a great Ohio state qb comes out
Zach will be the only player drafted from his league and people are saying justin hasn't face tuff competition and wilson is better..LMFAO!
Zach Wilson situation confuses me cause his playing against weak defences as his in a weird conference. He hasn’t gone through competition so im unsure how his gonna adjust to the NFL.
@@kaimoon1386 The one time he played a semi decent defence in coastal carolina he LOST... This will be another baker/lamar, trubisky/ mahomes situation
He wasn’t even originally committed there
Justin Fields is a top qb, he’s only played 6 games and hasn’t had enough time like Trevor and Zach to get it going
No Ohio state QB is good at the nfl
@@bigpthedawg1970 No Ohio state QB is good at the nfl
@@theloserkid NO Florida or BYU qb is good in the NFL
@@ryanadam3720 there’s only been one BYU qb.....Steve Young.....but I agree with ur point
@@bigpthedawg1970 facts no doubt about it
I thought Tua was doing well. What have I missed?
Yes and No he has talent but inconsistent
In my honest opinion I know osu QBs are buns but I think fields is miles ahead of Haskins/Jones/Barrett
The same here
@@merfn I hope he doesn’t go to the jets I hope he goes to decent organization
@@sirhendrix5256 me too
Breaking News...Clemson falls to #12..LOL
Let’s quit sayin BYU can’t produce QBs that succeed in the NFL can anybody tell me a Ohio state QB that’s had a winning record in the NFL and gone to the playoffs
Miami is definitely looking at QBs
Here is something experts are not considering with OSU QB stigma...there has been a lot of coaching turnover over the last 10-15 years.
HUmmmm, silly but interesting question . . .
Justin Fields has the highest potential of any QB not called Trevor Lawrence. I think he could be even better. So I'm not too worried if he drops. If he misses the Jets and Carolina (if they are in the hunt for a new QB) he could land at a really good organsiation that's heading in the right direction.
ESPN is such a joke. Ohio State has the number one qb prospect in 2021 and 2022 so kick rocks.
That is so true
They will say that they are like no bodys
The idea of a "stigma" just sounds strange. There's 32 starting NFL QBs and 130 starting FBS QBs. If we assume that an FBS QB will play 4 years in college then you're turning the NFL over every 4 years (roughly) in terms of starting QBs if every QB was drafted and started. That just doesn't happen. How many great QBs get drafted in an average year? 1, maybe?
No Ohio state QB is good at the nfl
@@theloserkid and no Oregon or LSU QB did well until Herbert and Burrow so whats your point?
If fields drop because of osu qbs in the nfl then every bama qb should fall since outside tua Saban era qbs don’t have any success in the NFL. And even tua is still too early to tell if he will be a success as an nfl qb.
Stfu you hater 😂😂
@@savagesouth1806 he's stating facts..how is he hating? I swear yall all have the same comeback of "stop hating" when yall have nothing logical to say back.
@@sharrybaythompson1935 because Alabama has had one first round QB since the 70’s so how can you even compare? You can’t therefore he and you are just haters. ESPN throws shade at OSU so you haters try and throw shade somewhere else. Simple
@@savagesouth1806 what does it matter what round they're in? Every school has players that dont do well in the NFL so why is OSU the only one mentioned? Oregon has never had a QB that did well until Herbert so whats your excuse there? What's ur excuse for LSU or Michigan? You want me to name more schools or is OSU the only one? Also none of those OSU pick were in the first round other than Haskins
@@sharrybaythompson1935 I didn’t do this story. My point was y’all throwing shade because someone threw shade at your school. Makes you a hater. Sorry. Is what it is
Said it last year about that whole Chase Young pick. Said he's a stud but Washington will regret taking him over a QB like Herbert or Tua. Tua has been up and down this year but Herbert is an absolute stud. They had dline depth already. Young solid dline but they were missing the franchise qb. Now they will be looking for awhile and until then they won't sniff a championship.
Not really he’s a great help with their defense now they can get a qb from this deeper class....depending on if they lose next game they could wait or trade up for a Fields/Wilson/Lance
Last year 40 TDS and one interception 🤔😳
I can't name two great NFL QBs from that school 🙄
Wellllll....I guess Justin Fields showed them!
Any questions?
Didn’t think so.
But Ewers flipped to aOSU because of their "great QB development."
But Meyer never liked the best QB they ever had. Some guy named Joe Burrow.
Haskins had a 50 td season in of himself. And then we got Fields. I'll take that tradeoff. And Urban would have made Burrow essentially a fullback.
I knew Haskins would be a bust. It was obvious.
Yeah He looked okay in 2018 but going as a sophmore, I knew he was going to be a bust.
He was cocky too
No Ohio state QB is good at the nfl
@@theloserkid Don’t mean none can’t be.
You’re gonna be salty when he dominates as thePittsburgh Steelers long-term franchise quarterback 💯.
Zach Wilson is simply the better QB when it comes to an NFL style offense.
everyone said the same thing about Oregon QB's and now look at Herbert..at some point every school had players that didn't do well at the next level so stop blaming the school and start blaming the players
Did they? I don’t think anyone said that as the only comparison for Herbert would have been Mariota who was somewhat of a bust but was hindered by injuries
@@brian2440 a lot of people were saying Oregon's offense isn't pro style football and that's why they dont have QB's doing well or even getting drafted at the next level
The “No good QBs from X school” argument is such a stupid talking point. How many good QBs came from Texas Tech before Mahomes? Clemson before Watson? Wyoming before Allen? You could go on and on yet only OSU gets the stereotype
@@aoht06 exactly..its about the player not the school. Talent comes from everywhere, not a specific school
Justin Field's enters his last game.. Huh ? Really funny. 😂 Desmond Howard is going to hate anyway cuz he's a Michigan guy he's not going to say nothing good about any Ohio State player period...
Mark the only guy with a light bulb in his head.
Good on Mark for keeping it 100....
And it is called the Black QB stigma, not OSU cause USC produces crappy QBs and people loved Sam, who threw more picks than Fields. Also, how a guy who started 13 games was drafted above Watson who just won a title....
These people just need something to talk about. This subject is what kids talk about at the lunch table at school. None of these former Qbs at Ohio State were as talented as Fields in high school or college. Sanchez is dead on point, stop making such a big deal about nothing. Every average white boy gets unwarranted praise and these black boys have to fly when everyone else is walking. Give me a break... 🙄
Preach.
Ain’t got nothing to do with race bro the two highest paid qbs in the league are black.
Anyone here after that OSUS rout of Clemson
If you think the school has any bearing on a QBs NFL success i can't take you seriously
When field gets sacked oh I'm hurt gets up throws a TD annoying
I would be surprised if any team trades up for J.Fields. When he falls and he will it won't be to far down. Last time I checked Qbs outside the top 10 have pretty good as of late. Fields to Atlanta would be nice..........real nice.
For all those that want to say OSU is terrible for QB development. I have two Questions.
1. What schools are a Major College QB producing Factory for successful NFL QB's?
2. Also name One Buckeye QB besides Haskins that was expected to be a potential Franchise NFL QB?
I'll Wait.....
1. Alabama...... lol
@@jahendrix1543 Ok who has Bama put into the NFL in the last 20 years or so that have been Franchise QB's who have had started for 10 years or so in the league? Now going forward in the next 5-10 years I believe that Bama, OSU, Clemson and OU will have something to say about QB factory but right now there are none.
@@crisalexander1185 outside of OU.......no one so I agree with ur point that scouting based off a stigma is something that would get u fired as a gm
facts..no school has consistently had QBs that do well in the NFL
There always throwing to wide open receivers 🤣 see what happens when there’s no separation pic over here pic over there. He’s cam Newton but not as strong of a runner
Desmond a highkey Ohio state hater, fields is a way better prospect than Haskins.
Don’t compare Haskins to Fields Haskins was no where near the prospect and talent that Fields is.
What if Justin field beat Clemson Trevor Lawrence, and beat Bama Mack Jone win National championship then what is everyone going to say
Don’t let Desmond critique our QBs until they actually win a game between our QBs.
Justin fields will be a game changer in the nfl
We dont care how he plays against the likes of Michigan or Indiana. We need for him to play on the big stage and against good teams not Michigan
Send Justin to ATL..😎
Desmond will always be a "whiny baby" against OSU - because of them yearly BEAT DOWNS
He's so emotional biased - he choked at the 5 min 18 sec mark while speaking ....lol
So bad as they didn't play this year. Ryan Day told harbaugh to mind his own team and he better hope there was a mercy rule for the game cause OSU going to put up 100 on them. Harbaugh got scared and covid was his way out so he wouldn't lose his job 🤣😂🤣😂
@@craigsaimes4063 ba hahahahahahaha
I pray jets don't take Fields
Ohio st fan
Bruh a bag of bricks will do a better job than sam darnald
@@motivationrus7071 i'm an ohio st fan. Jets will ruin him
Justin is praying as well🤣🤣
Im a Bama fan i DO NOT want him going there. I want the Falcons taking him because i think they will be able to develop around him and get want he needs
Ohio State Qbs don't do well in the NFL.
And you ppl talking 'Burrow went to Ohio State"...
Burrow didn't finish at Ohio State so he doesn't count.
I'm confused! How many good QBs have LSU produce besides Joe Burrow?
lol
Once a buckeye🤷🏽♂️
@@TheCruzan26 How many Bama QBs? And Watson is the only Clemson qb in their history.....Brady out of Michigan only cuz there were ABSOLUTELY no expectations.....so that stigma is useless when evaluating individual talent
@@mitchellajieroh Exactly! Now tell that to the OP. I think it's ridiculous to say a QB is not going to workout because other QBs from the same school hasn't workout.
Justin is good. But Miami would be fools to trade tua this early
The Miami story is overhyped and really the bigger issue is with how the transition from Fitzpatrick to Tua was handled. If the decision was Fitz was the starter and Tua would be tested out to start in a couple of games then the whole story wouldn’t even exist.
Crickets from Justin critics....
Who is QBU tho?
Oklahoma probably
@@ryanadam3720 true, but other than that none of the elite teams
Name me three ohio state QBs starting in the NFL and that are pro bowlers. Exactly none.
Name to me 3 Clemson QBs, Bama QBs, or Georgia qbs that start in the NFL and are pro bowlers. You still can't.
@@charliegriffey7773 broadway joe
@@jorgeledesma2418 really bringing out Joe Namath?
@@charliegriffey7773 troy aikman, russell wilson, tom brady, drew brees and eli manning
@@jorgeledesma2418 Brees was from Purdue. Russell Wilson was NC State/Wisconsin. Eli Manning was Ole Miss. What's your point?
@ Naquan Dixon. Can't find the response to respond to him saying I don't watch football. LOL. Funniest thing I have heard all day. I grew up less than a mile from pro football hall of fame. My cousin is George Saimes which played for Buffalo Bills and Denver Broncos. Is on Buffalos wall of fame scouted for tampa bay wasgington and houston texans. I come from a football family fool. Watched more football than 2 of your lifetimes.
Shut up how do you know it’s his last game what if we beat Clemson
Not gunna happen lol
Just remember last time a running back broke out for Ohio State. They ended up with a National Championship. (Ezekial Elliott) and no one said OSU would beat bama or oregon
Sermon may be the next one after the 330 he put up against Northwestern.
@@jahendrix1543 49-28
@@iCritz targeting call 🤡
@@jahendrix1543 it was targeting lol
No. He just isn’t that good
Ohio State quarterbacks historically are bad.
There's a name for this sort of thinking: its called the gamblers fallacy.
Why do blacks even play qb
@Kaushi Janipalli - LEH Student Hes dumb and arrogant made no sense!
133rd comment
All Ohio qbs suck in the NFL.. Been like that forever!! Fields is next. Its just the Ohio way
Must b a TTUN fan 🙉
@@abdulsmith9434 just facts.. Accept it
An offensive linemen isn’t going to change your team.... they’re still going to be 🗑
Casual
Go Bucks!!
Go beat your wives, Blackeyes.
@@jackfanning7952 stfu nobody asked ur so free dogwater
@@jackfanning7952 u 🤡🍆🚲👊👊😂😂
@@ianchang5034 hurts to be a loser, huh?
@@jackfanning7952 No u, what’s ur college football team bud???
2 different QBs so no lmaoo and Haskins has the talent just doesn’t have the people around him to be successful
No, he just sucked this year.
I want you to explain to me with facts on how he sucks this year. ill wait....
No, he's just over rated...
He sucks due to the team