What needs to be done to expand the College Football Playoff? | Get Up

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  • Rece Davis and Paul Finebaum join Mike Greenberg on Get Up to discuss if the dominance of Alabama, Clemson and Ohio State are a bad thing for college football and what would need to be done to expand the College Football Playoff.
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  • @dr.bendover2947
    @dr.bendover2947 3 년 전 +81

    The best teams will almost always win, but it would be good to see more teams have a shot. Even if they lose

    • @motivationrus7071
      @motivationrus7071 3 년 전 +6

      WHat this will do is help other school to recruit top players when you can lure them with the possibility of some how reaching the cfp

    • @matthewtrujillo3309
      @matthewtrujillo3309 3 년 전

      Sounds like a waste of time

    • @hanzotherazor1995
      @hanzotherazor1995 3 년 전 +1

      Did you know that Forbes Magazine put 3 programs value at over $1billion dollars, which 3 ? Texas, Ohio State and Alabama. They have better stadiums Ohio States and Bama’s are state of the art and hold over 100k people. Their football ops centers are multi million dollar facilities, the academic support buildings are new. Alabama recently opened a multi million dollar players center/cafeteria that rivals any white linen restaurant around. Other schools are following these programs albeit at a smaller financial cost. Northwestern invested back into their program and has seen vast improvements. So you do not have to be Big time, Blue Blood program to recruit talent, you just need to show how much you value the players.

    • @brennangonzales1581
      @brennangonzales1581 3 년 전

      We really want to see Bama smoke a #8 seed like Cincinnati by 50? Lmao

  • @joelcoley2606
    @joelcoley2606 3 년 전 +13

    Ending ESPN monopoly on sports would be a good start.

    • @hanzotherazor1995
      @hanzotherazor1995 3 년 전

      I won the power ball lottery and have $300 to $400 million to help start a rival network. JK. The problem is getting the TV rights, ESPN just agreed to pay the SEC over a $billion dollars for their tv rights. CBS which showed the best SEC game during the season could no longer afford the rights. NBC only pays Notre Dame $15 million per season for football rights, that is just pitiful! Vanderbilt will get more than twice that amount and did not win a game.

    • @igweofart
      @igweofart 3 년 전

      ESPN monopoly? More like Disney monopoly. Disney owns ESPN.

    • @hanzotherazor1995
      @hanzotherazor1995 3 년 전

      @@igweofart Do not forget they own ABC television too.

  • @StephenHSmith-mn4iq
    @StephenHSmith-mn4iq 3 년 전 +8

    6 or 8 teams

  • @jwsf941
    @jwsf941 3 년 전 +3

    For one, I thought it was the Power 5, not the Power 4

  • @tjbyrd2623
    @tjbyrd2623 3 년 전 +8

    It’s gonna take about 3 years

  • @RT22-pb2pp
    @RT22-pb2pp 3 년 전 +2

    Get more good teams, just adding bad teams means more blow outs

  • @jesse8028
    @jesse8028 3 년 전 +9

    Wait for them to get desperate for money

  • @Apache32D
    @Apache32D 3 년 전 +23

    Going to be Bama , Clemson and Ohio state until the end of time

    • @zerosummers343
      @zerosummers343 3 년 전 +7

      basically, at least until Saban retires, or starts doing bad which probably won't happen for at least another 8-10 years Imo

    • @LivingOutVariousExperiences
      @LivingOutVariousExperiences 3 년 전 +2

      Clemson not like That Florida State is the Premium School in the ACC just Poor Coaching

    • @Grayson950815
      @Grayson950815 3 년 전 +3

      @@LivingOutVariousExperiences lol quit living in the past

    • @LivingOutVariousExperiences
      @LivingOutVariousExperiences 3 년 전

      @@Grayson950815 😭😭😭😭🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @AlphaDwg
      @AlphaDwg 3 년 전

      clemson might fall off again and obscure but as long as I remember Bama and Ohio St has always been good.

  • @Germanicus-
    @Germanicus- 3 년 전 +7

    Conference champions automatically in playoffs.

    • @hanzotherazor1995
      @hanzotherazor1995 3 년 전 +3

      Never going to happen with two division conferences. The chance for a team with 3 to 5 losses winning a conference championship game is just to big of a risk. Now if the conferences were to realign into having no more than 10 teams and no conference championship games then the conference champion could get an automatic bid. But that would take a act of God to get the conferences to realign. Not to mention the lawsuits that would happen when ten schools tell the other 4 they have to go somewhere else. Does the SEC keep Texas A&M or Vanderbilt? You would think A&M, but Vandy was a founding member. Think how much the conference would have to pay them off.

    • @jackreed491
      @jackreed491 2 년 전

      @@hanzotherazor1995 If we are gonna do conference championship games right and make auto bids work, do what the Big 12 and the AAC do, the 2 teams with the 2 best records in conference, meet in the conference championship game (which is to eliminate conference divisions).

    • @hanzotherazor1995
      @hanzotherazor1995 2 년 전

      @@jackreed491 That would be fine but with the large number of teams would draw criticism about who played who. When there was just 10 SEC teams there was a lot of complaining about Georgia and Florida not playing Alabama very often, plus they only played 7 conference games. But teams played better non conference opponents. Alabama would play 3 teams that are now power 5 teams. The Playoffs are going to bring some new changes which is why so many teams are scheduling more power 5 and the better G5 teams starting around 2023 to 2025.

  • @Adrian-to3gq
    @Adrian-to3gq 3 년 전 +33

    I'm all for it and I'm an A&M fan but this year it would have been bama either way

  • @okrajoe
    @okrajoe 3 년 전 +3

    Problem is injuries when #1, 2, 3 are blowing out #7, 8, 9. Need to move first round up to early December at least so injuries can heal.

  • @h.b.9879
    @h.b.9879 2 년 전

    I'm cool with expansion as long as the matchups don't get too one-sided

  • @Itsme-wp8yc
    @Itsme-wp8yc 3 년 전 +3

    Automatic bids are a terrible idea.

    • @xftbllplyr2091
      @xftbllplyr2091 3 년 전

      No it’s not. Every conference needs representation. It works for every other tournament, why not fbs? Does polls decide a conf champ? Why should it decide a national champ

    • @Itsme-wp8yc
      @Itsme-wp8yc 3 년 전

      @@xftbllplyr2091 id rather see the best 8 teams. Not some 3 loss PAC 12 team that won their terrible conference get obliterated by Bama or Clemson. It’s practically a participation trophy. I thought the whole point of expansion is to avoid more blowouts and giving the 8 best teams a shot should help with that.

    • @xftbllplyr2091
      @xftbllplyr2091 3 년 전

      @@Itsme-wp8yc best teams = most recognizable programs. The sec, big 10, acc, etc doesn’t use the “best” team to decide their champ. They use division champs to decide who plays for a title. They didn’t use Alabama vs A&M for the sec title but the sec west vs the sec East division winner. Teams know they control their own destiny, not the polls

  • @SoSickRick
    @SoSickRick 3 년 전

    Only a handful of teams have even won playoff games

  • @daniphantom0423
    @daniphantom0423 3 년 전 +2

    I think the main thing is just giving teams that deserve it, a chance to play for a championship. Undefeated g5 teams should be able to go against bama or Clemson or whoever for a ship 🤷🏽‍♂️ also gives exposure to those teams and maybe they get better recruits inevitably becoming a power house team. Anything can happen. One day maybe BYU or Coastal or Liberty will be a big football team like bama. In the end it’s just about giving them chances.

  • @paullloyd1285
    @paullloyd1285 3 년 전

    North vs South East vs West divisions are needed so you don't have the same four teams in the cfp.

  • @sneakyquick
    @sneakyquick 3 년 전 +2

    Expanding the playoff just makes it easier for bama and Ohio State to make it in. They have what recruits want which is a good education a chance to learn a nfl style offense and defense, and a path to the nfl. If you want to change, get nfl coordinators and recruit better.

    • @hitstickproductions7050
      @hitstickproductions7050 3 년 전 +2

      Yes but it also makes recruiting easier for smaller schools, College basketball is a perfect example of what a good playoff system does for your sport, notice how five star prospects don’t just go to the blue bloods but they also go to the smaller schools, this is because no matter where you go if you have an amazing season you are rewarded for it, where as in college football if you don’t go to a power Five program and then go undefeated you will never sniff the playoffs as they are currently constructed, for the small schools there is no way to just “recruit better” when the big schools can just leverage the fact that unless you go undefeated for three straight years you won’t see the playoffs and a lot of times unless they’re homegrown you arent getting any type of NFL coordinator

  • @hanzotherazor1995
    @hanzotherazor1995 3 년 전

    Well the first thing that needs to happen is to study the FCS, Division 2 and Division 3 playoff Systems and decide if the 12 team, 14 team or 16 team formats can be used at the FBS level. All you here is a 8 team playoff system is what the FBS needs and the day after the 8 teams are picked there will be an outcry for a 10 or 12 team playoff system. Just go ahead and start at 10 or 12 and deal with it.
    Unless the 2 division conferences ( no conference championship games) are changed there will never be automatic bids. It might only happen 1 time in ten years but a team with 3 or 4 losses will upset a team with 1 or no losses in a conference championship game and it will throw everything out of whack. A change in conference format would have to happen to allow automatic bids. Conferences could only have 9 or 10 teams max, no conference championship games and 1 or 2game against a power conference team. So there are 75 or 76 teams that are considered power 5 teams, that includes BYU and Notre Dame both would have to join a conference. So add the 4 or 5 best group of 5 teams to make it a even 80 and there you have 8 conferences of 10 teams. Since the AAC would lose 3 or 4 teams to conference expansion, the remaining teams would get the best teams from the other group of 5 conferences to replace them.
    Then form the remaining group of 5 teams conferences ( 4 of them) would have the Champions of the Sunbelt and Conference USA, and the Mountain West play the Mid American. The winners would get a playoff birth. So that is 11 teams right there. That would leave 1 at large births in a 12 team playoff system, or go nuts and have a 14 or 16 team playoff system and have 3 or 5 at large births. Not having conferences championship games saves on total number of games although that should not be an issue since the FCS plays their 12 team playoff system with a 12 game regular season and they only have 63 scholarships to give, division 2 has a 14 team playoff system and only 53 scholarships and division 3 has their 16 team playoff system and has no athletic scholarships at all. So it can be done on paper, but getting conferences to change would be like moving Mount Everest. Never going to happen. The expanded playoffs will happen it’s just a matter of how many teams will get into the playoffs.

  • @ISJP2906
    @ISJP2906 3 년 전 +1

    8 team playoff

  • @wisewords9116
    @wisewords9116 3 년 전

    16 team format....
    Champion and runner up of every power five conference... Every group of five champion of their conference and the highest ranked school that was not in championship game...

  • @StubbyTheBee
    @StubbyTheBee 3 년 전 +5

    Or just have all the conference champions make the playoffs instead of going by rankings cause Norte dame lost the championship game but still made the playoffs regardless just to get blown out again in a game they didn’t deserve to play it

    • @cobbler88
      @cobbler88 3 년 전 +1

      Because Oregon absolutely might have been the best team in the country, right?

    • @geleneceline2310
      @geleneceline2310 2 년 전 +1

      @@cobbler88 bruh people like you need to stop saying that, they only played because of covid no team is making it like that again

    • @cobbler88
      @cobbler88 2 년 전

      @@geleneceline2310 Could you put that in coherent sentences so I can figure out what you're saying?

    • @geleneceline2310
      @geleneceline2310 2 년 전

      @@cobbler88 read again 🤡 I did nothing, if you can't read it you blind, I did nothing to fix this

    • @cobbler88
      @cobbler88 2 년 전

      @@geleneceline2310 I'll just accept that English is likely your second or third language. That's fine. But we still have a problem.
      If I have to translate what you tried to write, the best I can come up with is that you don't believe that a lesser team like Oregon would make it into an expanded playoff during any normal, non-Covid year. That demonstrates that you know nothing about how that playoff scenario works.
      So, are you just stating your point so poorly that I misinterpreted it, or are you more or less stating what I think you're saying, which means you don't know what you're talking about?
      I'm sure you see my dilemma.

  • @dragngt
    @dragngt 3 년 전 +2

    Devils argument: ESPN (NCAA) isn’t concerned about making the playoff more fair/interesting for the other teams. Their concern is how they can increase viewership and revenue at the expense of student athletes who are already required by the NCAA to attend college before going pro. The NBA & NFL love it because it provides them with a free talent evaluation metric before pro teams have to spend money on players and their further development.

  • @nookied3735
    @nookied3735 3 년 전 +4

    Can we at at least agree that no matter how many teams make it to the playoffs, Notre Dame should be banned from here on out for eternally choking in the CFP.

    • @ellisonriley4414
      @ellisonriley4414 3 년 전 +1

      Preach. They have permanently failed the 'eye-test'. Along with the 'win-test'.

  • @jacoreyhaskins9086
    @jacoreyhaskins9086 3 년 전 +2

    They should expand it like the nfl. Let the Top 14 teams make it. The college will get more views and get more money. There will be more upsets and college football. It would be as good as the nfl.

  • @woodTMC1984
    @woodTMC1984 3 년 전

    You can cut out the player opt outs in bowl games on the flip side. D-1 has more resources yet D-2 found a way to make it happen

  • @jamesreynolds4679
    @jamesreynolds4679 3 년 전 +1

    Adding more teams to playoffs is stupid. The 4 best are the 4 best. Watching. A few of the lower 5 through 10 will be SEC teams. What crummy teams do you want to let in Mighigan, USC, Texas?

  • @nathanlukeman4896
    @nathanlukeman4896 3 년 전 +3

    Expand it to 8 teams. And to be one of those 8 teams you have to win your conference.

    • @cobbler88
      @cobbler88 3 년 전 +6

      Oregon absolutely deserved a shot at the title this year, right?

    • @Don-md6wn
      @Don-md6wn 3 년 전

      That's ridiculous when you very easily could have the 2 best teams in the same conference.

    • @nathanlukeman4896
      @nathanlukeman4896 3 년 전

      No its not. Would have prevented Norte Dame from being embarrassed and allowed another team who won their conference to have a shot. If you can't win your conference you shouldn't get a shot at the title.

    • @volsboy672
      @volsboy672 3 년 전 +3

      @@nathanlukeman4896 Why? SEC has multiple teams that are better than other conferences champions. You want the best 8 teams no matter their conference. Just take the top 8 teams by the old BCS formula.

    • @nathanlukeman4896
      @nathanlukeman4896 3 년 전

      Because picking the best teams who don't win a conference is subject opinion. Just like Note Dame for the past several years. Everyone thinks they deserve a shot then they get blasted. Win a a conference to get a title shot. You can even add a play in game to dive some who might be good but didn't win their conference. Its simple take out all the opinions and go from there. We would definitely see matches that would otherwise never happen.

  • @davidcole2337
    @davidcole2337 3 년 전 +3

    Why do the Playoffs need to be expanded. What team below #4 this year deserved to be in the Playoff this year? Only fans complaining are fans of teams that are not just good enough to be in it.

    • @derekbenham4374
      @derekbenham4374 3 년 전

      As stated in the video, because they believe it will help distribute recruiting to make the sport more competitive overall.

    • @James-mo6rk
      @James-mo6rk 3 년 전 +1

      Ummm TAMU, Cincinnati and Coastal would all have been a better choice than ND

  • @yungmark09ify
    @yungmark09ify 3 년 전 +2

    Nick Saban retiring lol. Use BCS Rankings and do an 8 team playoff. 1-2 get auto semi bids. 3-4 get auto quarter final bids. 5-8 duke it out in a wildcard.

  • @MrHodgeon5th
    @MrHodgeon5th 3 년 전 +1

    So yall want #1 Bama to play #8 No shot University??

  • @christopherfoote4643

    Conference Realignment
    1. Atlantic Coast Conference: Include Cincinnati, Navy and Notre Dame.
    2. Big Ten Conference: Include Colorado and West Virginia.
    3. Big XII Conference: Include Arkansas, Central Florida, Coastal Carolina, Liberty, Memphis, Rice, S. Methodist, and Tulsa.
    4. Pacific 12 Conference: Include Boise St., Brigham Young, Hawaii, Nevada Las Vegas, and San Diego St.
    5. Southeastern Conference: Include Clemson, Kansas and Tulane.
    6. Mid American Conference: Include Army, East Carolina, Marshall and Temple.
    7. Mountain West Conference: Include Arkansas St., Houston, Louisiana Tech, New Mexico St., S. Alabama, S. Mississippi, Texas St., and UTEP.
    8. C-USA and Sun Belt: merge, add USF.
    Massachusetts: to FCS.

  • @LunchBox68
    @LunchBox68 3 년 전 +4

    3:55 THANK YOU!!!!!!! I'm so tired of people bitching about greatest.

    • @winfordt.mcguillacutty2553
      @winfordt.mcguillacutty2553 3 년 전

      Exactly

    • @dbvictor7289
      @dbvictor7289 3 년 전 +1

      It's a reflection of the times. Standards are lowered across the country to prop up lesser performers. What makes us think college football would be any different? It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they stopped crowning national champions because we're "separating programs based on ability."

  • @allidoiswin230
    @allidoiswin230 3 년 전

    next year will be texas Georgia oaklhoma and Alabama

  • @estebanperez4171
    @estebanperez4171 3 년 전 +1

    Introduce better academic standards for all programs that’s one of the things hurting some schools from recruiting. Michigan, Notre Dame and Stanford all have more stringent requirements for student athletes than Bama, Ohio State and Clemson. It limits some schools in recruiting.

    • @cobbler88
      @cobbler88 3 년 전

      Keep telling yourself that. There is a sliding scale at Stanford that allows athletes in. I believe there's something similar at Notre Dame. And UNC could claim just as stringent requirements at Michigan does.

    • @estebanperez4171
      @estebanperez4171 3 년 전 +1

      @@cobbler88 their stringent academic requirements kick in once students are already enrolled. Michigan’s top RB was suspended either a year or two ago due to poor grades that would’ve passed at other schools this led him to consider transferring.

    • @cobbler88
      @cobbler88 3 년 전 +1

      @@estebanperez4171 I'm sure that was the public face of it, but that happens so rarely that I doubt that's everything there was to that story. Given the sheer number - and type - of kids we're talking about, that should be happening a lot more than we hear about.
      But Stanford does loosen things up for those kids to be admitted. Then it just needs to put the ones that needed the extra grace into a major that works well with keeping them eligible. I was looking it up a few years ago in regard to Richard Sherman. I do assume that you have a shorter leash there, though.
      As for the Irish, there's a reason it's said that one of the most popular majors for football players there is raping girls from Saint Mary's. Not a lot of future nuclear chemists doing that.
      These are obviously the few really bad apples we're talking about here. But it does speak to how we like to form certain opinions about certain schools, then kind of never bother to learn much more. One of the best/worst things about my career in the media, working in major D-1 and major league markets, has been knowing what goes on, and knowing how much we never report.
      Take care.

  • @jjohnson9750
    @jjohnson9750 3 년 전 +2

    We can’t expand college football without shorting the season. Plus if you expand the playoffs and these other teams get into the playoffs. Then these teams run into a Alabama Clemson or Ohio state in the playoffs and gets beat down who wants to see these games.

    • @RoccoGuyBoiThing
      @RoccoGuyBoiThing 3 년 전

      Literally every other fan base but the top four? Every other school would rather see their team lose than have no shot whatsoever.

    • @jameswalton4518
      @jameswalton4518 3 년 전

      Isn't that what we just got done watching this year, all the Playoff games this year were blowouts, what's a couple more going to change.

  • @jwc5791
    @jwc5791 3 년 전 +1

    Alabama has 8 wins in the CFP and Clemson has 6. Why does ESPN keep lumping Ohio State (3 wins total in 4 trips) in there with them?

    • @swift8821
      @swift8821 3 년 전

      Because nobody else has more than 1.

  • @nhekzero7147
    @nhekzero7147 3 년 전

    I would like some variety but the end result will probably be the same. It's no matter what, some will always disagree with the picks. Should we go back to the BCS era?

  • @Cifer77
    @Cifer77 3 년 전 +2

    I just want to keep Conferences and their championships relevant. We already see Conf Champ losers get considered for the 4 team playoff, if we go more than 10 teams we're going to see Conference #1 & 2s of every conference in the playoff every year, making the Conf Championships useless. So players will skip the games entirely.
    Why play a Conference Championship game when the top 2 teams are going to the playoff anyway?

    • @Cifer77
      @Cifer77 3 년 전 +1

      8 Teams
      Power 5s all get guaranteed spot
      Best Team of Group of 5 has guaranteed spot (picked by committee)
      +2 "Wildcards" from any conference (picked by committee)
      It's double what we have now, makes sure Group of 5 schools get a chance, and lets in some of the "second best" in other conferences but not all of them so the conf championships are still important.

  • @Itsme-wp8yc
    @Itsme-wp8yc 3 년 전 +5

    They have been mainly won by Bama and Clemson. OSU only won 3/17. Kinda dumb to include OSU compared to Bama and Clemson.

  • @nicolastimlin1019
    @nicolastimlin1019 3 년 전

    You would have to be blind to think more teams would make any difference at all

  • @braddougan1919
    @braddougan1919 3 년 전 +20

    When 99% of the schools don't have a chance at the beginning of the season is not good! It's becoming really stale and not interesting right now!

    • @jamesdykes517
      @jamesdykes517 3 년 전 +2

      You guys had your chance. As a Clemson fan, Bama was the best. No one was gonna knock them off. Good try though. Certainly better than what we put up against OSU.

    • @JakeChaykin
      @JakeChaykin 3 년 전

      They gave you like five different chances brother Florida just could not be a mediocre LSU team (Canes fan)

    • @braddougan1919
      @braddougan1919 3 년 전 +3

      @@JakeChaykin Our idiot shoe throwing db marco wilson

  • @cecarter10
    @cecarter10 3 년 전

    A few years ago My Florida team lost to Georgia Southern, Michigan lost to Appalachian State, Oklahoma lost to Boise State. Underdog stories is what we love. But if your a recruiter for say East Carolina how do you convince a 5* to come play with you when Alabama is heavily recruiting them as well, you got nothing to offer. It's simple.

  • @charleszhang1437
    @charleszhang1437 3 년 전

    What if you put a cap on recruiting? Only allow a certain number of 5,4,3 stars on each fbs team. Would balance the talent difference between the top 4 teams and everyone else.

    • @cobbler88
      @cobbler88 3 년 전 +3

      Yes. Banning college kids from being able to choose their school is an excellent idea!

    • @RT22-pb2pp
      @RT22-pb2pp 2 년 전

      Which star rating do you use? There are multiple rating systems.

  • @Bucks7542
    @Bucks7542 3 년 전

    Start limiting scholarships

  • @cobbler88
    @cobbler88 3 년 전

    Hat off to Rece for coming as close to reality as any of the touts regarding what would have to take place if we were to make a "fair" expanded playoff that addresses the issues people claim to care about. From the dimwitted comments throughout this board, a LOT of people like to talk expansion and almost all of them have laughable ideas as to how to do that.
    Here's a hint: If your system would have allowed Oregon in this year's playoff, your plan is stupid.

  • @Field_Marshall
    @Field_Marshall 2 년 전

    Having 2 loss teams vs 3 loss teams do you people really really wanna see these teams in a playoff format. Rewarding the weak is bad for college football 🏈

  • @peytonclark1353
    @peytonclark1353 3 년 전 +1

    Please expand it I would love to see that

  • @davidmead2529
    @davidmead2529 3 년 전 +1

    Bracket system and expand playoffs. No more picking and choosing. It’s good for everyone. It’s common sense and teams can earn it!

    • @MrHodgeon5th
      @MrHodgeon5th 3 년 전

      It would be meaningless... a #10 is really a #15 or #20.... they just crawled up because of some other teams loss while they beat a Virginia type team. Then play Bama, who completely blows them out in the first half.

    • @davidmead2529
      @davidmead2529 3 년 전

      @@MrHodgeon5th it’ll be for way more money and being proud or your university making the playoffs. Increase recruitment and take Bama constant five stars away that keeps them there to constantly blow out teams.

  • @fredtaylor5594
    @fredtaylor5594 3 년 전 +2

    6 team playoff. 1 and 2 seed get a bye. 3 plays 6. 4 plays 5.

  • @checkersworldfedration9780

    This is my opinion have the top 10 teams be in the playoffs top 10 team vs top 9 team and winner goes into the elite 8 team playoff because having 4 team playoff is really stupid and rigged

  • @shaggie82
    @shaggie82 3 년 전 +1

    How far will bama fall once Saben retires

    • @indigoenergygamer4350
      @indigoenergygamer4350 3 년 전

      Not far I'd imagine. Will Bama show up every year like they do under Saban? Probably not. Will they fall as far as TN Vols? Not that either. Before Saban, Bama was still a team that earned its spot as one of the best programs in college football history. Saban just took something good, and made it better.

  • @WillKazarian
    @WillKazarian 3 년 전

    We want 16 teams in playoff not 8

  • @audiobookemperor
    @audiobookemperor 3 년 전 +3

    These old heads just don't understand. Joel Klatt has the perfect solution. 3 ways it can work too.

  • @jacobwatson1406
    @jacobwatson1406 3 년 전 +1

    I THINK THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THE FACT THAT DEFENSES ARE HANDCUFFED AND NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT IT IF YOUR A WIDE RECEIVER YOU CAN PICK A DB BUT A DB CANT TOUCH YOU RIDICULOUS ALSO LET THE DBS HAND CHECK RECEIVERS AND STOP ALL THIS BLOCK A GUY ON A SCREEN AND TURNING INTO A RECEIVER WHILE THE DB IS FOCUSED ON TALKING THE SCREEN GUY CUT OUT ROUGHING THE PASSER PENALTYS AND LET THE DEFENSE PLAY DEFENSE

    • @davidcole2337
      @davidcole2337 3 년 전 +1

      Why are you Screaming??? Did your Team not win the National Championship?

    • @semajspivey1720
      @semajspivey1720 3 년 전

      Agree they made it a offensive game only defense can’t sneeze on a dude without getting ejected

  • @anthraxrocks2003
    @anthraxrocks2003 3 년 전 +14

    Stop putting Notre Dame in to begin with they suck

    • @dnews9519
      @dnews9519 3 년 전 +1

      Notre Dame does not suck this is the best they have been in decades they played a great game against my Bama team. You have to understand they are at a disadvantage because of their academic standards are so high. Brian Kelly is doing a great job there.

    • @dnews9519
      @dnews9519 3 년 전

      @@cbell1446 Bama beat Notre Dame by 17 points. Bama beat Texas A&M by 28 points. Bama would have beaten Cincy by at least 28 points. Notre Dame has a great football team and deserved to be there.

  • @RT22-pb2pp
    @RT22-pb2pp 2 년 전

    Expand it to 8 or 16, the bama clemson osu teams still win it

  • @timothyharmon6305
    @timothyharmon6305 3 년 전

    They can change all they want Nick done showed them time after time he will be there at the big dance. Everybody else playing in them game!! Well! Nick mastered the game. So get your game up. Roll Tide!!

  • @trashedbodomguy
    @trashedbodomguy 3 년 전 +1

    No need for playoffs. The best teams always win the title game.more games wont change that

  • @neeper666
    @neeper666 3 년 전 +1

    To bad alascama had to intentionally take out Ohio state's best player to win. Not to mention celebrating on the sideline when they knocked him out of the game. Bunch of classless punks

  • @caseyrice2707
    @caseyrice2707 3 년 전

    All power fives who won there conference 2 teams from the lower tier conference champion and the the team with the next best overall record done. CFP fixed

  • @RoccoGuyBoiThing
    @RoccoGuyBoiThing 3 년 전 +2

    I haven't watch the championship for the last 7 years. So I don't really care? I honestly don't care who wins a rigged race. The combination of bagmen being ignored by the NCAA, stunts like Fields getting his waiver bc he's a profile player, and clear bias by the committee in years when there has been competition has made the game pointless to watch. There is only so much fixing you can take.

  • @StubbyTheBee
    @StubbyTheBee 3 년 전

    Why not expand it to 10 so we have the top 10 teams compete to truly see who is the best

    • @cobbler88
      @cobbler88 3 년 전

      Because we'll already know that at least five of those teams are NOT the best when the playoffs begin. Most will have already lost to other teams in the field, and occasionally we'll have teams that have lost to TWO teams in the field.

  • @willcosper1696
    @willcosper1696 3 년 전 +6

    If you don’t like the four team system because the same teams are in it, simply beat them. Problem solved

    • @daniphantom0423
      @daniphantom0423 3 년 전 +1

      Okay. What about teams that go undefeated (like g5 teams) but don’t get a chance to go against bama or osu or Clemson? It’s more of getting teams that don’t have the biggest finances or biggest name a chance to play AND WIN championships. Also expanding gives those lowers teams that we talked about more exposure and maybe more 5 and 4 star recruits. Liked that video stated.

  • @xacex6944
    @xacex6944 3 년 전

    5 undefeated power 5 conference champions in a single season. That seems like the only way the committee will consider expansion.

    • @cobbler88
      @cobbler88 3 년 전

      I don't necessarily agree it will take that. Money will do the talking. But that scenario is the only one that speaks against the fact that preseason polls don't matter if you win all of your games as a P5 team. It's never failed.

  • @rickhayden3343
    @rickhayden3343 3 년 전 +1

    4 is just right, more average teams involved would be awful, not needed.

  • @bradhighwood140
    @bradhighwood140 3 년 전

    More money spent and u better start paying these players if u extend the playoff

  • @akjdhajkdjhaghjkadh9804

    8 team playof, 6 quarter and semi finals games should be the ny6 bowls

  • @antoinepitts6403
    @antoinepitts6403 3 년 전

    Bc the same thing will happen. Just say 8 bc I’ve seen that a lot. If bama and Clemson are top two and maybe throw Ohio State in there at 3 or whoever. Those 2 definitely and maybe the third will destroy the other 5 teams. Then same championship we’ve been seeing. The extra games are like filler episodes. They can be entertaining but don’t really matter

  • @xftbllplyr2091
    @xftbllplyr2091 3 년 전 +8

    1. Get it out of the hands of the college presidents and give it to the actual ncaa. The ncaa has tournaments in every team sport except for FBS football.
    2. Give equal say to every conference. Let every fbs conference get representation. Make it a tru national championship, not a 4 team invitational
    3. Get rid of polls in the sport. Keep polls outside where they belong

  • @brutussmithers3777
    @brutussmithers3777 3 년 전 +1

    No expansion!

  • @LivingOutVariousExperiences

    16 or 32 Round playoff Format

  • @dragngt
    @dragngt 3 년 전

    Let’s stop being delusional about the non P5 having a shot even if you expand the playoff. Give them their own playoff and attention. The media focus is generally just about the P5. Split it up and give both levels a shot at a championship.
    The college these players go to is their choice. It’s what they want to better their future not to make ESPN (Disney) more money. If any college can’t recruit its because you aren’t interested in changing the culture of your program. Look at Michigan, they appear to be happy right where they are. They signed a new contract with Harbaugh while Vandy, Auburn, & South Carolina, just to name a few, made moves for new coaches. Just saying.

  • @javierbookshadowscontribut6223

    136th comment bama trying to start a dynasty of Winning chips.

  • @chrisbove1640
    @chrisbove1640 3 년 전 +2

    we are tried seeing the same teams over and over again its unwatchable do you see the TV ratings loser @ Chris fallica and talk about the Yankees we remember the players in Yankees teams we still talk about and how they save baseball during the home run race after that era was done baseball got boring around 2010's no one is going to remember Alabama Clemson Ohio State in championship games nobody is going to remember them those games who really whats to remember all the blow outs games not me

  • @mitchell1346
    @mitchell1346 3 년 전 +2

    6 team playoff with automatic qualification for conference winners. SEC, B10, Pac-12, Big 12, AAC, ACC

  • @jackclimb3529
    @jackclimb3529 3 년 전

    If I had the power to change one thing in college football, it would be limiting every program to signing only 10 ESPN 300 players every year. It would level the talent out and make college football less predictable. Of course Alabama/Clemson/Ohio State fan bases would try to kill me over this, but it would help every other college fan base be more interested. I would love to see Tennessee beat Alabama sometimes instead of getting predictably romped year after year. Or give the group of 5 conferences their own playoff.. or implement the same tournament that the FCS has THAT WORKS MORE EFFECTIVELY.
    It's become too repetitive. Fans want change. Why would the masses pay attention when their programs keep getting shut out or overlooked? There are so many ways to make college football better. There's no parity which is a glaring issue. Ohio State will win their conference again next year. Clemson will win theirs, there's no need to watch you already know the outcome.

  • @loganbeaumont2490
    @loganbeaumont2490 3 년 전

    expanding wont fix any of the issues they say it should

  • @TheLoganMayhemSmith75

    Bama actually has 18 National Championships but whatever ESPN. ROLL TIDE‼️

    • @BMLocal374
      @BMLocal374 3 년 전 +2

      They said 6 in the saban era

    • @TheLoganMayhemSmith75
      @TheLoganMayhemSmith75 3 년 전 +1

      David Hess I know the thing at the bottom with the words said Alabama only had 13

  • @LunchBox68
    @LunchBox68 3 년 전

    Just expand from 4 to 8, 12, or 16. No automatic qualifiers, just straight up best teams.

  • @huntertrum3658
    @huntertrum3658 3 년 전 +3

    Past 3 national champions have all been undefeated super teams. 4 seeds are usually some cupcake who gets destroyed. Unless that changes anytime soon, keep the playoffs the way it is.

    • @xftbllplyr2091
      @xftbllplyr2091 3 년 전

      When you have other undefeated teams not given a shot, then there is an issue

  • @lestermount3287
    @lestermount3287 3 년 전 +3

    expand the play offs to 8 teams then we could have more deserving schools than Notre Dame.

  • @benw1656
    @benw1656 3 년 전 +2

    The problem is that the players are flocking to the teams they think have the best shot. You can look at the top 50 recruits and see this in action. With 130 teams competing for recruits, and 25 scholarships each, there are 3250 players that should (not always) accept a FBS scholarship offer. Of the top 50, 23 of them are going to the conference champ of the ACC, SEC, Big Ten and Big Twelve. 3 of the top 50 are still undecided, but among the rest 12 school are splitting them.
    I never favored a playoff, as it would be unfair to the student athletes to make them play additional games, but now the playoff has choked out parity of any kind, as these 4 conferences have been dominated by their perspective 2020 champs. The only way I see this changing is to allow students complete freedom to transfer as they see fit after seasons, and expand the playoff to 8 teams. The 8 team playoff would favor expanding the ability of teams on the cusp of a title to challenge for top recruits. Georgia, A&M and LSU may steal a few recruits from Bama, the PAC-12 champ can get a spot, and the group of 5 teams can get representation....something they have never been given. This would allow for more exposure and give these teams a shot grab a few more players away from top teams.

  • @kendrickellis8726
    @kendrickellis8726 3 년 전 +1

    When do you Get tried of Winning?? 💯

  • @chrisowens7873
    @chrisowens7873 3 년 전 +2

    Expanding the playoffs does nothing. Sure, every so many years you may get a miracle team win it. Fact remains that Bama, Clemson and others are just flat out better programs with better coaches, players, staff and resources. But just ask folks like Texas, Michigan, USC, FSU, Florida, and other former perennial powerhouses how much resources helps overcome bad coaching hires and programs. Long story short, hire the right head coach and get out of his way.

  • @pauleplatt
    @pauleplatt 3 년 전 +1

    All of the pundits say they want to see better games during the regular season. Then they say they want to expand the playoff. Huh? With an expanded playoff, interconference games become meaningless. Win your conference and get an automatic bid. It won't matter if Alabama loses to USC and Texas if they win the SEC. You want to guarantee that Clemson, Alabama and Ohio State are in the playoffs every year, then expand. Want to see more SEC vs. SEC title games like Georgia vs. Alabama, then expand the playoffs. Want to make other bowl games meaningless then .. oh wait the present system already did that. Want to make sure NFL bound players not on a playoff team don't play? Expand the playoffs. We already have too many players opting out. Want to see two and maybe three loss teams in the playoff, then expand. Finally, and most importantly, if you want to kill the excitement of the regular season then expand. Today, if a team loses one game and it is close they might get in. Notre Dame should never have been in after getting killed by Clemson nor should TA&M. Cincinnati should have been in. Today, lose two games and you are out even if you are Alabama.
    For those who think this is all predetermined and can't be changed, look at Alabama's record after Bryant but before Saban. Yes, there is Stallings. But... there are also 7 other coaches. Before Dabo Swinney, where was Clemson? Texas, Nebraska, USC, and Michigan have all been powerhouses in the past and can be again with the right coach. Saban will retire. The odds are against his successor being anywhere near as good.
    Please don't kill the most exciting regular season in sports.

    • @antionecuff1121
      @antionecuff1121 3 년 전

      Speaking of someone who is familiar with an automatic bid system and teams losing to OOC opponents and still making it. So what, good football is still being played again. Guess what is Alabama were to lose to USC and Texas. They'd still be fighting their butts off to win their conferences as oppose to players hanging it up knowing they won't play in a meaningful game at year-end. As for the team that may be 2nd place in to Alabama in their conference, they'd still be eligible for at-large considering if they schedule is deemed strong enough. The games will be meaninful. It will also force the usuals to schedule stronger OOC games if their conference is really strong. Additionally, seeding would be more of an enfaces. Smaller conference champs are going to argue their seeding and committee is going to say, schedule stronger or have your conference perform well in OOC game.

    • @pauleplatt
      @pauleplatt 3 년 전

      @@antionecuff1121 I respect your comments but I do disagree.
      First, we effectively have an 8 team playoff now. Florida-Alabama was essentially a playoff game. The ACC Championship should have been one.
      We will just have to disagree on OOC games.
      What I don’t want is basketball. There is no point in watching basketball until the playoffs are well under way.
      As more games are added to the schedule it is less about which team is the best and more about which team has the fewest injuries. Both Alabama and Ohio State were affected by injuries. It is part of the game but I don’t want it to be the dominant part. I am very protective of the regular season. I fear greed is pushing everyone to a system that marginalizes the regular season. Once done there will be no going back.
      Think of the quality of games. How many time would adding teams to the playoff have resulted in closer games and a different outcome? I can think of maybe one or two but there is no perfect system. Once you go to 8 then number 9 will complain. OK so go to 16. Then number 17 complains.
      This won’t change recruiting. When Saban went to Alabama, Alabama was poor at recruiting. Their current dominance is a combination of Saban and the university’s willingness to do anything Saban wants.
      I doubt I have changed your mind. I fear you will get your wish. I’ll just start skipping the early games and wait till the playoffs.

  • @Connor-tr1dv
    @Connor-tr1dv 3 년 전 +1

    what needs to be done? just make it bigger? lol.

  • @JackPraeuner
    @JackPraeuner 3 년 전 +1

    8 team playoff is solid imo. 1 extra game with some other teams who deserve to get in

    • @tystephens1314
      @tystephens1314 3 년 전

      ye because 8 teams would be the top third of ranked teams and it would put great teams in the playoffs

  • @jodypowell1961
    @jodypowell1961 3 년 전

    Did not even watch video!!! Answer : Just win your games!!!!!! Duh!!!!!

  • @TheRedArmy13
    @TheRedArmy13 3 년 전 +1

    There should be a 12 team CFP imo, top 4 gets a bye and the bottom 8 scrap it out in a wild card round

  • @Don-md6wn
    @Don-md6wn 3 년 전 +2

    Yeah, make a big playoff and devalue the regular season games like college basketball. We need to see more blowout playoff games.

  • @allidoiswin230
    @allidoiswin230 3 년 전

    16 team why dont they do it I mean its gonna give cfb more money anyways and it will make fans happy

  • @icekirbyixi
    @icekirbyixi 3 년 전

    It has nothing to do with "excellence" it literally has EVERYTHING with opportunity. Not enough teams get an OPPORTUNITY to prove themselves on the field. Period.

  • @theonyxtavern
    @theonyxtavern 3 년 전 +3

    12 team playoff. All 10 conference champions and two wild cards. Fixed. Done.

    • @cobbler88
      @cobbler88 3 년 전 +2

      Go back to the drawing board. Make the math work or at least let us know why Oregon should have had a shot at the national title this year.

    • @user-tg4ig9hc3t
      @user-tg4ig9hc3t 3 년 전 +3

      I'd prefer a 16-teamer, with the 10 conf champs and 6 at-larges. Keeps the bracket square, gives all conferences a fair shot at a national title, and provides enough wiggle room for teams to reasonably grab an at-large bid.

  • @murphyc15
    @murphyc15 3 년 전

    The playoffs need to be expanded but the NCAA also needs to pass new regulations or modify existing ones in order to help establish more parity, which is desperately needed.

  • @zackbyrd9014
    @zackbyrd9014 3 년 전

    my dream scenario that won't happen is to demolish conferences and have 1-0 play 1-0,2-0 play 2-0, 1-1 play 1-1, ... etc. So then every good team is forced to play other teams with the similar records. like this year imagine cincinnati getting to play 8-0 Notre Dame or Alabama to see how they compare.

  • @philcooley5443
    @philcooley5443 3 년 전 +1

    Maybe we expand it to 64 teams. That’s where it’s headed. Leave it alone. If you can’t make the top 4 then get lost.

  • @graham2661
    @graham2661 3 년 전 +3

    8 teams makes the regular season irrelevant. You can lose 2 games and get in, and that’s stupid

  • @user-gj6lm9zv9s
    @user-gj6lm9zv9s 3 년 전 +1

    Why does CFP need expanding it's fine the way it is ppl 😭 about the same teams getting in just like the BCS no difference expect in CFP nobody wants to play bowl games anymore

  • @antionecuff1121
    @antionecuff1121 3 년 전

    I say expand to 16, with every FBS conference champion receiving automatic bid with 6 at-large selections, selected by committee. It would not dilute the season, it would make for good football to until the last weekend. If a powerhouse like Ohio State were to lose to USC and Texas. They'd still be fighting their butts off to win their conferences as oppose to players hanging it up knowing they won't play in a meaningful game at year-end. As for the team that may be 2nd place in the BIG after losing to Ohio State, they'd still be eligible for at-large considering if they schedule is deemed strong enough. The games will be meaninful. It will also force the usuals to schedule stronger OOC games if their conference is really strong. Additionally, seeding would be more of an enfaces. Smaller conference champs are going to argue their seeding and committee is going to say, schedule stronger or have your conference perform well in OOC game. If a 7-5 team win a conference, guess what, they get sent to the slaughter of the #1 seed. That rewards the higher seed with an easy game, similar to playing chattanooga or Citadel wk 12. For the pundits that don't want that 7-5 team, put a win % threshold, indicate you need to have .900 win pct to receive auto or your bid falls into at-large scenario.

    • @DennyJr22
      @DennyJr22 3 년 전

      This is the absolute dumbest idea ever...the Sun Belt and the MAC get automatic bids into the playoff? Hilarious.

  • @user-tg4ig9hc3t
    @user-tg4ig9hc3t 3 년 전 +1

    16 team playoff
    10 auto-bids filled by conference champions from each FBS conference
    6 at-large bids
    This postseason structure gives us a theoretical possibility of any team in the nation winning a title in any given year. If a team wins their conference, they earn the right to compete for a national championship. I dont see why G5 teams even exist at the FBS level if they are never given a fair opportunity to win anything truly substantial and treated like second-class citizens. The 6 at-large bids provides enough wiggle room for teams that dont win their conference, but are still good teams to get their opportunity as well.
    I think the most important thing this postseason structure would do is give top recruits a real reason to consider other programs on the basis of "wanting to go somewhere to win". Think about it, if more teams get their shot at a national championship, that helps other schools with their recruiting pitches. The results wouldn't be immediate, but over the course of about a decade the top schools would slowly come back down to earth, just because the postseason structure creates an environment where any school at the FBS level can get their chance any given year.