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- 게시일 2019. 12. 04.
- Rachel Nichols, Brian Windhorst and Kendrick Perkins discuss whether the injury timetable of New Orleans Pelicans forward Zion Williamson means he's losing his chance to win 2019-20 NBA Rookie of the Year, particularly with Ja Morant playing so well. They then (2:11) preview Suns vs. Pelicans, and debate whether Phoenix guard Devin Booker or NOLA's Brandon Ingram has been better this season.
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Getting traded was the best thing that could’ve happened to Ingram. He’s showing that he has superstar potential. Keep it up, BI
Boi he was doing this last year post all star break y'all were just sleeping
@Marcus Boyd ingram's improvements is similar to Vince Carter's. Search it up it's crazy
I wanted to keep Ingram on my Lakers.
Marcus Boyd so did Kobe Bryant
Dude he's putting up numbers on a bad team, there's no superstar anything right now
Devin booker just dropped 44pts on his team but ingram been ballin this year fr
BI showing what he’s really capable of💪 with all the injuries Nola is dealing with..he’s the only bright spot of this season imo
It’s a few bright spots we need to get rid of our coach
ShowTimeGaming he’s ready to get that max deal
Al Boog true.. Jaxson,Ken,NAW are other bright spots and yeah idk about Gentry as coach
ShowTimeGaming Mike Epps said it best,he jus an assistant pimp🤣😭😭
@@alboog5902 Gentry is a horrible coach defensively. He comes from the Mike Dantoni Phoenix Institute of No Defense. Gentry couldnt coach defe se and he had AD, Rondo, and Jrue Holiday.
The disrespect towards Booker continues 😂
kdubb 2345 Ridiculous LOL, Booker is clearly better...
Facts smh
@@bballtubing Yeah D Book is better but Ingram has a case for just this season lol
Booker is better only because he is more of a leader and able to take over a game. But Ingram has been better from 3, rebounds better and is an overall great defender. Comparing them is no disrespect
Onyedika Ekechukwu I guess, but Booker has been a borderline all-star for the past 2-3 seasons. Ingram is just now starting to play at that level. Also, the Suns have a better record.
I feel like Brandon Ingram has been in a zone all season. Dude has always been able to score....
Yeah but Perkins on crack if he thinks there's only 14 players in three nba better than ingram
Doesnt Matter Perkins is right tho don’t act like BI won’t attack anyone in the nba.heads up.
Doesnt Matter he said as of this season and he is correct. Stats don’t lie. Get with it.
If Devin Booker and the Suns were 6-16, nobody would be talking about how good he was like people are talking about Ingram
MarshallPo facts!!!!
100%..
MarshallPo actually they have alwsys talked about booker . N much more than they talk about ingram
The thing is.....everybody was expecting him to have a breakout season with the pelicans. Devin booker and the suns have been underachieving for years so that’s just out of the window? They’re barely in the playoff race as we speak.
Tyler they’ve been tanking for years, that’s different than underachieving
Devin BOOKER made 44 pts, 8 rebs and 9 assists a couple hour after that video. CONGRATS
Honestly all around id say ingram by far especially when tou factor what ingram has done on defense this year. Id you watch these pelicans games noy just highlights you would see hes EASILY been not only thier best player but the most clutch and consistent. Hes been unguardable most the tkme and his only bad shooting game he was just off and still got to the line 14 times and finished with 23 and 10. The way he scores its effortless his vision is really good it literally seems like EVERYTINE he has it he either scores gets to the line or finds a wide open shooter. He might not drop 70 pts but he gunna drop 25 8 rebounds 5 assists a steal and hold his defensive assignment well below his regular shooting % luka has lit the league up this year. In 2 games so far specifically with bi on him hes 2 for 13 . they were talling about it the other night during the pels broadcast. Hes goinf to he really fuckin good . im so happy hes finally getting his respect. Hes been a sleeping giant just waiting to go off
“I woulda wanted to have Joel Embiid 31 times”- Rachel Nicoles
I’m sure that was an advancement in her part.... she should be banned from ESPN for life
Embid is 7ft
Freudian slip
Brandon Ingram is showing he is capable of being an all star
Yeah but he's on the Pelicans. Teams don't even have to double him to beat his team. Just has the green light to stat pad, so that franchise can flip his value. BI is no 1 or 2 maybe not even a 3rd option on a great team.
@@jvadoptante Shut up dude! You're not even watching the games, he's killing dudes on a nightly basis & he has all the tools. He's averaging 25 & he's not a 3rd option, stop hatin for no reason
@@369pendulum he's saying he has the green light to put up numbers as the number one option because they're losing and have no roster. He's not proving anything other than that, there's been a ton of dudes do this in nba history, when he starts winning then maybe it matters
@@jvadoptante Ingram showed that he can find the open guy everytime they double him so that's not an issue for him..If they keep him as the no1 guy on offense and use Zion to help him they'll actually start winning
Raymund G he was always the second option on the lakers, Lebron was first, it’s a reason he went on a scoring tear when Lebron got hurt.
Booker is already one of the best at his position and for Ingram idk yet
Ingram is unequivocally a top 5 SF
Best at what cause the bar is low for him
The sf position is a lot more stacked than the sg position imo
BigMac N Cheez facts
Slime A Lot not at all👎🏾
D Book is not only scoring pretty much the same amount of points as Ingram he is also wary more efficient and has much more assists, so yeah, he's playing better
He's not way more efficient.. He's not even more efficient lol..
I wouldn’t say he’s playing better this season that was the question and Ingram is ascending shooting 41% from triple and getting better
@@MisterDevin35 Brandon Ingram - 60.4% true shooting
Booker-63.4%
Booker is SIGNIFICANTLY more efficient than BI. And that's with the shooting slump he's been in the past 6-8 games. BI is a better defender though. I'd still take Booker but it's more of a legitimate debate this year.
BI plays better D and is scoring more and rebounding more
Masoud Abdun-Noor yeah cause booker showed he deserves it
Ingram most improved player
Na, Devonte Graham.
@@ignorantpost6051 Sophmores don't win MIP
So earlier these three talking about siakam for most improved again when him and Ingram are basically identical in stats this year. Ohhh the media smh. Ingram most improved this season
Yeah but Ingram was better than siakam in the regular season last year therefore siakam *improved the most*
Siakam defense is superior
Jess Walt we expected this from Ingram we didn’t expect siakam to get any better
Jess Walt
Wiggins
Rachel trippin, Joel Embiid for 30 games over Brogdon for the whole season. That’s stupid to me.
Ammar Khan that year he was pretty productive
son goku alright, so Embiid did twice as much per game, but Brogdon played 2.4x more games. What’s your point
son goku Embiid is better no doubt but if you are gonna be injured for more then half the year what’s the point? Brogdon was reliable and Embiid was just injured. That’s just my opinion tho.
3:00 🤣😭
Ingram has been getting buckets but not on Bookers level yet. I give him around 3 years and he’s a top 10 player in the league
And then Booker proceeds to drop 44/8/9 on the Pels on 13/24 FG. No hate to Ingram though, he's playing fantastic and efficient.
fakeshake234 BI was goin off 1st qtr too 7 pts in 4mins until he got those 2 fouls which got him out of his rhythm would have been fun to see him go off this game too
Booker...and I'm an Ingram fan lol
Slardex Book is so underrated as a player.... not just his game but his mentality are under appreciated.
If the suns didn’t have Rubio booker would be averaging 30+ he doesn’t have to carry so much of the load anymore and his game has improved because of that
Ricky rubio plays like a guy that should be better than what his career should have been though
Ingram will be something special
Hope he returns to the lakers
This is a good question but I'll take Brandon Ingram..
Mr. James hope you stay with that pick, when NOLA gets healthy, and Ingram doesn’t get as many touches or shots on offence anymore. You know, that thing that made him inconsistent at best when he played in LA.
If Ingram gets to stay as the #1-2 option on offence, when Zion gets back, he’ll keep up this play. BUT, if he gets knocked down to 3rd or 4th option, he’s going to suddenly start jacking up low-percentage shots, and giving less effort on defence, Again.
Doctor Cthulhu you think after playing this well (all star caliber) he is just not going to get any touches anymore? He has earned his if anything it takes pressure off of zion and makes it even easier for him.
The disrespect
BI ‼️ wish we wouldn’t have traded him. He Always had potential and he showing it now.🚀
This is stupid logic, he's showing it now because he's the number one option right now. He couldn't have ever been the number 1 on the lakers let alone the number 2 or 3.
@Lil WoooHUH?... the reason why kuz wasn't traded is because he IS consistent. WHAT you talkin about?
Noah de la Rosa that was not why. He was close to the owner you goofy
I wanted BI over Kuz. My homie wasn't feeling that. I told him about Ingram's numbers awhile ago.
@@ivvyx4657 naw g. Ingram would take Kuz's minutes.
Ingram is playing great for a bad team, Booker is Playing Good for an Okay Team
What separates that good from great? 1 extra pt? Booker has more ast while Ingram has more rb. Booker is more efficient and barely scores less. The difference is hardly enough to separate good from great thats ridiculous. Why is Bookers team better? He has Rubio as the 2nd best player while Ingram has JJ and Holiday
Ingram’s team has lost 6 straight
Also Booker dropped 44 on NOLA yesterday haha
Brandon ingram the goat
Brandon plays better defense. I'll take him in the long run.
Finally they put respect on BIs name
Brandon Ingram has been balling
It's not about who'd u rather have it's who's has a better year
Booker went for 44,9 and 8 tonight and they won
They both been awesome. I wouldn’t be mad to have either or on my team.
Ingram been killing everybody this season Lakers fans been telling y'all about him tho
Brian Windhorst be thinking bout whether a strawberry donut or a jelly filled donut is better.
He don't care! He'll take both
Not gonna lie, I dont like Brian Windhorst. His smug face in every clip is killing me.
Oh come on! Don't u want to pinch his chubby cheeks.
I love how much he hates Rachel lol
Ingrams been able to not only score but get his assist up to 4. Considering he has lonzo who averages 5 assists and jrue who averages 7 that’s pretty good. He’s the best player on his team even tho they aren’t good I think he’s played better. BI has better D too
Brandon Ingram > Devin Booker , this season.
Stop itttttt
No he's not stop doing drugs
@@andrerandall7873 he is lol
book leading his team to wins
44/8/9 and the win for Booker tonight, you still taking BI?
If Oubre develops into a Brandon Ingram, it's over for the league. Sans nation babyyyyy
kendrick perkins crazy lol
Ramona always crank it on folks 😂😂😂
I feel this comparison as an honor to BI. MIP this season for sure.
Perk is right, you can’t name 15 players that have been better than Ingram at this juncture of the season
Giannis, LeBron, Luka, Harden, PG, Kawhi, AD, Donovan Mitchell, Trae Young, KAT, Kyrie, Lillard, Paskal Siakam, and maybe Booker and Drummond, so yeah he's up there for sure.
Logan Joyner yeah BI is cuz he’s avg more PPG then about 4 of them players u named this season
@@princessanela3166 points isn't everything, but like I said, he's definitely in there.
@@ignorantpost6051 He's playing better than about 4 players you mentioned lol..
He's literally just putting numbers on a bad team
I'm glad Ingram is doing his thing. Sometimes big cities is to much for some. I thought he was going to be bust. Glad he showing out
Ruggz . Net props & respect to you bro! At least you’re humble enough to say that you thought he was a bust, unlike these other lebron & kuzma fans.
@@traejanmichael8047 yeah I thought he always had potential. Maybe the lights were just to big.
He was literally doing this post all star break lol
Brandon was showing all we thought of him before he got that knee soreness. Since then he's still very good as a player but he lost that alpha dog he was showing when he picked the time to dominate, even though they lost many games, he was the one keeping them in the game when the other teams were starting to try to run away. He needs to show that again tonight and keep it consistent
that what people ain't recognizing if you watch Booker on defense he be much better this year than he has been in the past Ingram has long arms so he gets blocks and some rebounds but u can get a lot of blocks and not be a good defender Ingram is really the only option on offense for his team where as Booker team is performing much better and they don't have Ayton Kelly Obree had played well he putting up nice numbers when Ayton comes back he gone get his touches where as Ingram is the man for NOLA he like the only iso scorer right now im sure others can do it but they not i would say its close but i would have to give the edge to Booker but that could just be cause im a Suns fan who knows maybe Ingram a be a Sun next year with Booker
Back here after Booker dropped 44 8 and 9 lol
Perk on some perks
It too early in the season. But in my opinion booker is better as he’s more efficient. He’s been balling out like, Ingram is only playing like that cuz he the only good guy on his team bedsides jj he has more minutes with the ball in his hand
Ummm jrue holiday is on the pels and aversged 21 and 8 last year. Averaging 20 this year
Cpuld argue whos more efficient booker shoots more times per game yet ingram averages more points per game. His d is alot better than bookers too
They gonna stop disrespecting dbook like he shouldn’t been an all star already
He's going to be one this year it's alright
They way Perk shuffled them papers at the end
That's stupid tho ? The award is called rookie of the YEAR if you didn't play enough for your team you shouldn't be in the conversation I don't understand how you could think otherwise
BI playing like young KD
Rob Smith KD was putting up 30 at this point in his career and there games are barely similar.
They have very different play styles
Brandon ingram
they not letting perk speak the truth
Devin booker for sure
Ingram just started doing this to this level, Booker has BEEN doing this meanwhile being the leader of his team and improving his Suns team that has been a joke for years
Devin always been cold but ingram just now becoming what he should have been when he was on the lakers
But what about Kelly oubre Jr . Though .
Who's in the winning column?
Perkins is like Paul Pierce
Both on my fantasy team doesn’t matter 🤷🏾♂️
I got Booker bro & I'm not complaining. I also got Giannis.
I got BI, Book, and Giannis lol
Playing in a 8 man league with my cousins and uncles ^
What about Eric Paschall who’s better than every rookie in every category?
Why is this even a question?
Booker has been good, look at the stats
Lol look at ingrams stats and then watch a game and watch his significant growth on defense.
Did the 2018 -2019 season not teach you anything. Stats are very meaningless, in the grand scheme of the things.
@@jays5926
exactly Dak has top 5 stats at QB in NFL, many will say those stats mean nothing since he's not a top 5 QB over Brees,Brady,LAMAR Jackson, Patrick Mahomes,Jimmy G, Russell Wilson etc, etc...your right stats don't mean everything, like Westbrook stealing rebounds from center Adams for the triple double in OKC.
@@jays5926 then what matters then. You cant argue with the standings. The suns is doing waayyy better.
Well who's actually won games? Booker 🔥
What's Booker record as a pro
@@christasiajazz4921
Right
I'm only watching for Pierce and Perkins. #34,#43
I want Zion to comeback next year and Win ROTY but at the same time I want LaMelo to win it.
How is Brian Windwhore built the same as Perkins but half his height
😂😅😂
Booker by far. Ingram isn’t dropping 40
💯💯💯💯
I hate when people say things like “by far”, it’s like when someone says “Michael Jordon is WAY better than LeBron James”
Man dropped 40 on da nets same night kyrie dropped 36
Booker by far
Andrew Wiggins
LONZO! Oh nvm he's always injured
Bust
@@dickygreenleaf8694
haha
The answer is always Alex Caruso DaGawd 🐐
Kendrick Perkins just said he put Booker on his mvp list, top 5 before the season started. How does he have a job?
Tbh I don’t think Ingram should be in New Orleans hes really grown this year and if Zion has a slow start into the league he should be on a team that wants to build around him because the way he’s playing he’s looking like #1-2 scoring option
Jrue- Ingram- Zion... could be the most dominant big 3 of the beginning of the decade.
agustin gorostiague you think so? Idk there are a lot of young teams with crazy talent... The Mavs, Hawks, Kings, Philly, Miami, Phoenix, Bulls, Magic all have 2-3 superstars or players that can become superstars.
Why arent we saying Brandon Ingram for MIP?
I remember an idiot told me Booker is better than Harden. In scoring 🤣🤣
Well Booker doesn't flop as much or rely on the refs/free throws... And he doesn't dribble out the shot clock then take a low percentage shot every other possession..
Do what Simmons did. Let him play next yr. Sit him out the whole season. Let him get his weight down and have proper nutrition and conditioning. This kid is 18 years old and a generational talent. Don't rush him especially when there are obvious problems with his weight/conditioning to play 82 games at this level in the NBA. The pelicans aren't going to make the playoffs and Zion won't suddenly make them contenders even if they squeak in at 8th place. Let the kid heal properly and work on the issues at hand. Greg Oden is a prime example. The league/owners whatever pressure him to play and play through injuries, and lead to multiple injuries over time that he never could recover from. he ended up with severe arthiritis in his knees end his career and impact his daily life into his 30s now.
Devin Booker by a mile
Zion hasn't even played 1 minute of regular season NBA basketball, *yet* ... and people are acting like this is the 1995 return of Michael Jordan. Smh. The kid is still a rookie. Ain't like he's about to step on the court and take the 6-16 Pelicans to the title. Everybody needs to pump them brakes & give the young fella time to get acclimated to the NBA game. Seriously.
Devin booker is way better but Brandon Ingram has most improved this year by far
You can't name 15 dudes Perk? Yes he has improved, but his main advantage is he's the number 1 option for the first time on a team that's waiting for it's star to come back. His ppg will drop by at least 5 when zion comes back
Michael Roberts naa
The only name that you should concern yourselves with for ROY is Kendrick Nunn, dude is balling out for a winning team exceeding expectations.
Ja is run away rookie of the year right now, expectations don't matter, if you are the best rookie, you are rookie of the year, wins don't matter either, especially if you are the 4 or 5 best player on your team.
Logan Joyner lol @ you thinking it’s a runaway, they don’t give awards out after 20 games 😂
@@jaejessiah5833 "runaway rookie right now" meaning that at this point, Ja is the rookie of the year, do you get it bud?
Logan Joyner no cause he’s not the runaway goof ball?
@@jaejessiah5833 ok fine,
18 pts
6 assists
3 rebounds
On 41% from 3 and 45% from the field, find a rookie that's been better.
No question not on the same level
?
Chad Ingram dbook way better
Booker is better. And I'm a huge BI fan. But BI will be amazing in a couple years
We should have kept Ingram instead of Kuzma...
No because Ingram is doing most of this while being a primary ball handler he would get in the way no offense
All I’m saying is both of em are all stars
Doesn't matter neither will win a championship besides as third option
Ok BOOMER
Brandon Ingram is like a baby KD
He doesn’t play like KD though
Kelly Oubre
Booker 100%
Who’s winning?
How tf is Joel going to win playing just 31 games?
I'll take BI
100th comment Ingram duke icon player too 🐩🦜🦡
Ohhh pleaseee ingram take like 25 shots to get his points...i was hating that while he was with the lakers.soooo glad he got trade!
Duuuumb
@@aronpaulestrella8460 u dont know about basketball..he is sucks mannnn...he will never win a ring..he shoot too much and dont make noone better..i play ball and recognize good players ...if he was good he would have stay with the lakers....he sucks man..he was takin a lot of shots when he was playin with a player 4 time better than him..that tell u something the guy have no IQ
Dumb comment.. really dumb..
Man all of yall talking crazy, until his numbers translate to wins he's just the best player in a bad team that's putting up numbers, the NBA has seen countless of those... Not saying he couldn't be more, I'm saying it's not worth saying superstar anything when it's just that... Big numbers bad team, at least in Ingram case
Zion will not, I repeat WILL NOT be ROY
Who will be? Ja Morant?
Ingram is a baby 🐐
Book