The Patrick Mahomes GOAT talk is over! - Stephen A. on the Chiefs' loss to Tom Brady | First Take

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  • Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman discuss how Tom Brady and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' dominant win against the Kansas City Chiefs in Super Bowl LV impacts Patrick Mahomes.
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  • @mikea2073
    @mikea2073 3 년 전 +2564

    Brady had to beat Brees, Rodgers, and Mahomes that’s just insane

    • @kasperrieberg3495
      @kasperrieberg3495 3 년 전 +282

      He’s defense beat them

    • @nathan_drake1237
      @nathan_drake1237 3 년 전 +486

      @@kasperrieberg3495 And his Offense beat their defense! It's the Same thing basically, no difference

    • @Terror832
      @Terror832 3 년 전 +101

      The GOAT Taylor Heinicke is better than all of them

    • @damianpresha5155
      @damianpresha5155 3 년 전 +27

      @@nathan_drake1237 The difference he not on the field against those offenses.

    • @Phatooine
      @Phatooine 3 년 전 +126

      @@kasperrieberg3495 __
      If the Bucs had beat the Chiefs 10-9, you have a point. But the final was 31-9. So you're just making that up.

  • @SA-rk2lv
    @SA-rk2lv 3 년 전 +559

    Tom Brady’s kids going to the Super Bowl is like them going to their grandmas house

    • @tonyv8550
      @tonyv8550 3 년 전 +25

      When Brady doesn't make the Superbowl I heard his daughter cries and asks why they're not going lol

    • @Hydrodose
      @Hydrodose 3 년 전 +61

      His kids have held the trophy more than most organisations lol

    • @tolen1689
      @tolen1689 2 년 전 +15

      Tom Brady kids be tired of disney world

    • @dextew69
      @dextew69 2 년 전

      Lmaoooo

    • @TheAngelOfDeath01
      @TheAngelOfDeath01 2 년 전 +5

      We wanna go to Superbowl World, Daddy!

  • @nancychisholm8186
    @nancychisholm8186 3 년 전 +146

    If Tom Brady fell off a cliff he’d win two superbowls before he hit the ground , and then win two more

  • @bobbygreene7748
    @bobbygreene7748 3 년 전 +58

    This should never have been a discussion. Pat is an amazing player - and will be one of the greats of the game by the time he's done. But in order to be considered the GOAT, you have to put together several years of elite performance...not just 2 or 3.

    • @HintOfLogic
      @HintOfLogic 2 년 전 +4

      Agreed. It does make for interesting comparison but the rhetoric should be more like "Will Mahomes go on to have a career like the GOAT Tom Brady?" It's just waaaay to early in his career for GOAT talk. It's like putting him up their as Jordan of the NFL.

    • @kvngcorn4851
      @kvngcorn4851 년 전

      Lamar could’ve done the same thing and no one would’ve came to his side

    • @kkwjsshh718
      @kkwjsshh718 년 전 +1

      hey, i was waiting to come back go your comment, carry a final injures, THE GOAT

    • @BryantThompson-it4dz
      @BryantThompson-it4dz 4 개월 전

      Bro Patrick mahomes is the fastest quarterback to 70,000 yards he's already the goat and ahead of the Brady Superbowl pace

  • @rahulyalamanchili3775
    @rahulyalamanchili3775 3 년 전 +831

    Mahomes scrambling was like what Russell Wilson has been doing all year

    • @topimp93
      @topimp93 3 년 전 +29

      *Carson Wentz

    • @Terror832
      @Terror832 3 년 전 +19

      Lowkey it reminds me of Johnny Manziel back in Texas A&M days.

    • @wicklyfe8316
      @wicklyfe8316 3 년 전 +89

      @@topimp93 you should be banned from the comment section saying that man name

    • @shreymanchanda1356
      @shreymanchanda1356 3 년 전 +12

      Lamar

    • @kalilbell
      @kalilbell 3 년 전 +23

      @@shreymanchanda1356 you just compared a running back to a qb

  • @alpha_male_s
    @alpha_male_s 3 년 전 +3599

    If you think the super bowl settled the GOAT discussion then you don’t know football. This GOAT discussion was over wayyyy before the super bowl!

    • @kalilbell
      @kalilbell 3 년 전 +159

      facts

    • @piccolo5346
      @piccolo5346 3 년 전 +126

      Stating the obvious to get cheap likes!!

    • @thefluffythinker773
      @thefluffythinker773 3 년 전 +65

      AMS is in the house!!!!

    • @jamesross29
      @jamesross29 3 년 전 +175

      Exactly. He’s so young, he hasn’t even had 5 years under his belt. He could potentially be the greatest someday but it’s way too early in his career to even consider him the greatest.

    • @jalves6494
      @jalves6494 3 년 전 +58

      It was over after the Atlanta game, everything now is transcending football and now among Jordan, Ali, Tiger Woods tier of dominance

  • @dmn1447
    @dmn1447 3 년 전 +202

    I feel like tom brady took Max's lunch money as a kid.

    • @sugar4me225
      @sugar4me225 3 년 전 +11

      Tom also stole his girlfriend:)

    • @mikexxxmilly
      @mikexxxmilly 2 년 전 +2

      Max is a staunch liberal so anyone that isn’t white automatically takes precedence

    • @DragonHeart613
      @DragonHeart613 2 년 전

      @@mikexxxmilly What does being liberal got to do with sports???

    • @railguncs
      @railguncs 2 년 전 +5

      @@DragonHeart613 everything, liberals are liberals to everything

  • @markrobinson9394
    @markrobinson9394 3 년 전 +42

    “Does he need to catch the ball too?”
    That sounds very familiar. *** cough *** Wes Welker *** cough *** Super Bowl 46 *** cough ***

  • @lilb1190
    @lilb1190 3 년 전 +192

    I mean, he didn't have a great game but he was running for his life the whole game.

    • @ThePasterio
      @ThePasterio 3 년 전 +17

      Yes, yes. Finally. And he could do nothing. Lol

    • @redhunnid5142
      @redhunnid5142 3 년 전 +26

      Give Brady the same oline Mahomes had and he would be having temper tantrums on the sidelines 💯

    • @lilb1190
      @lilb1190 3 년 전 +8

      @@redhunnid5142 yes and no. Brady would have gotten lit up pretty badly, but he also would have thrown almost exclusively short slants. He would have drawn illegal contact calls because the ball would be gone and players just want to hit him.
      Mahomes has the ability to evade tackles and still make an accurate pass, so his instinct is to draw out the play and try to make something happen.
      Tom Brady isn't about to leave the pocket for anything, so he would opt for quick throws. He would also not abandon the run, even if it wasn't working.
      Lucky for him his line was great and the defense was even better.

    • @johnbless1423
      @johnbless1423 3 년 전

      @@lilb1190 and Brady has so many weapons to dish the ball to.

    • @bigingtv7315
      @bigingtv7315 3 년 전 +1

      @@lilb1190 fact of the matter is O line matters Idc how great you are and they’re very important.If they don’t perform it will also be a long night for the qb.Tom woulda or got fucked up even worse.

  • @LaidBack--
    @LaidBack-- 3 년 전 +486

    Shouldn't have ever started... who realistically puts somebody in the GOAT conversation based off one SB run??🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @henrympittman6452
      @henrympittman6452 3 년 전 +64

      Thank you. It made no sense to me as well

    • @edwincollins5847
      @edwincollins5847 3 년 전 +1

      Patrick mahomes had his team won. I think they would say tom Grady is great but not the “Goat”. Media creates the narrative. And maybe have Patrick on par as skill with Tom Brady. If he had won. Everything would have changed if Patrick had won

    • @Nbafanla03
      @Nbafanla03 3 년 전 +2

      MaFraud just got lucky that’s all

    • @theyoungyeezus4930
      @theyoungyeezus4930 3 년 전

      True

    • @chillvibed
      @chillvibed 3 년 전 +30

      Today's generation of people who
      1. have short term memory loss
      2. Bunch of haters who wanna ignore your accomplishments and hype someone else up

  • @JaydenFlores
    @JaydenFlores 3 년 전 +247

    Patrick Mahomes: gets the ball
    The offensive line: ight ima head out

    • @ILoveYou-sg5bi
      @ILoveYou-sg5bi 3 년 전 +2

      Everybody: mahomes now isn't the goat

    • @ILoveYou-sg5bi
      @ILoveYou-sg5bi 3 년 전

      Smfh

    • @MattyV3
      @MattyV3 3 년 전 +2

      Now peeps know what it feels like to be a ravens fan

    • @Abbad1579
      @Abbad1579 3 년 전 +5

      @@ILoveYou-sg5bi He was never the goat to begin with.

    • @courvoisiercullum789
      @courvoisiercullum789 3 년 전 +1

      He the goat but he’ll never be a Tom Brady idgaf what nobody say💯

  • @skyindigo2085
    @skyindigo2085 3 년 전 +85

    Hearing max crying puts a smile on Brady’s face 😂😂😂

    • @allenkatz3198
      @allenkatz3198 3 년 전 +5

      I think Brady could care less what he thinks!!

  • @MaloneIG
    @MaloneIG 3 년 전 +1437

    when the receivers weren’t catching the ball mahomes didn’t look good - Stephen a smith

    • @jeremiahpierre7405
      @jeremiahpierre7405 3 년 전 +83

      😭😭😭😭

    • @nickshowtimez8924
      @nickshowtimez8924 3 년 전 +3

      @UCSZqSmcIIAhPpAu5ywF7AOA sound salty

    • @cantu7214
      @cantu7214 3 년 전 +26

      both can be true statements

    • @ronoarchie9704
      @ronoarchie9704 3 년 전 +20

      He made an incredible throw falling down....... BRADY DA BOSS

    • @LegendaryMamba24
      @LegendaryMamba24 3 년 전 +120

      Right... What is he gonna do, throw to himself? people actin like Mahomes dropped to a mediocre quarterback or something

  • @shoobie15
    @shoobie15 3 년 전 +529

    It’s funny how quick ppl turn on you after one bad game or loss

    • @ghost-_4298
      @ghost-_4298 3 년 전 +21

      Fax man they probably stayed on his meat when he won a lot of his games

    • @beatriznavarro1668
      @beatriznavarro1668 3 년 전 +3

      Its life, its no personal

    • @focused4841
      @focused4841 3 년 전 +44

      Its not just one bad game its the superbowl dude

    • @robertsawney7901
      @robertsawney7901 3 년 전 +21

      @@focused4841 I get that biggest game of the year but the disrespect I’ve seen so far is outrageous it’s a lot of terrible takes and not talking into consideration the circumstances. Considering how relentless that pass rush was I generally don’t think anyone could have won that game. Not Brady not brees Rodgers manning no qb in the history could’ve won that game. Mahomes didn’t play well but with how bad the line was there was no help around him and it’s a team sport don’t forget that

    • @robertsawney7901
      @robertsawney7901 3 년 전 +4

      @@Prez16 I kinda hear that but my point still stands I don’t think anyone qb in the history of the game could have won that game 🤷🏽‍♂️ they were beating the tackles like 1 second after the snap u think anyone else could’ve won that game 😭😭

  • @KG-jw4jg
    @KG-jw4jg 3 년 전 +62

    Can’t believe people mentioned his name into goat conversation after 1 sb

  • @wolfstar675
    @wolfstar675 3 년 전 +162

    Mahomes was like Rodgers last night. he was all by himself in there running for his life!

    • @davidtristan3891
      @davidtristan3891 3 년 전 +16

      Aaron had better protection than mahomes did though

    • @Truth48137
      @Truth48137 3 년 전

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @xaviervasquez9909
      @xaviervasquez9909 3 년 전 +1

      @@davidtristan3891 not much better, but i mean that’s why the packer game wasn’t a blow out like the chiefs game

    • @ThePasterio
      @ThePasterio 3 년 전 +1

      He wasnt like Rodgers. Rodgers has a vg offensive line. That's how GB got back into the game against TB. Starting LT out and starting rb Jones knocked out game in 1st quarter.

    • @davidhaley5597
      @davidhaley5597 3 년 전

      Brady paid his Linemen to go soft and not protect him, easy win!

  • @RTNFlacko
    @RTNFlacko 3 년 전 +348

    Did stephen a really say that when the receivers couldn't get open mahomes isn't all that? Thats literally for EVERY QB WHO HAS EVER PLAYED

    • @knavar6314
      @knavar6314 3 년 전 +34

      Except Lamar, his receivers can’t get open or catch passes and it his fault

    • @RTNFlacko
      @RTNFlacko 3 년 전 +16

      @@knavar6314 i never said anything about lamar. He needs a big weapon but another thing is that he has got to get out of that scheme no one wants to play for a run heavy offense especially when your a great receiver

    • @bohhnybro8640
      @bohhnybro8640 3 년 전 +16

      RIGHT lmaoo if his receivers arent open, stephen a expects him to.... what? the bucs defense killed them. Had nothing to do with Mahomes playing bad, all tho he could have had a better game.

    • @RTNFlacko
      @RTNFlacko 3 년 전 +20

      @@bohhnybro8640 the man expects mahomes to catch the ball, run the ball, return the ball, play defense, and throw.

    • @knavar6314
      @knavar6314 3 년 전 +6

      RTNFlacko I’m alluding to similar situation Lamars had all year, bad pass protection, no receiver separation, dropped passes. Every QB gets some type of context like Mahomes is getting now but the same isn’t afforded to Lamar. G Ro needs to go absolutely. Harbaugh too

  • @priztucker
    @priztucker 3 년 전 +367

    Oprah Winfrey: "You get a car, you get a car, and you get a car..."
    Tom Brady: "You get a Ring, You get a ring and you get ring"

  • @athrinean
    @athrinean 3 년 전 +56

    Max kellermen is the one who's falling off a cliff with his Tom Brady analysis.

  • @lastofus35
    @lastofus35 3 년 전 +119

    The goat discussion ended when brady came back from a 28-3 deficit against the falcons

    • @thebarkingcrab
      @thebarkingcrab 3 년 전 +7

      Facts

    • @thefaceofunemployment1373
      @thefaceofunemployment1373 2 년 전 +6

      It’s a team sport. I would say the Falcons choked more than Brady was clutch tbh.

    • @jackduncan5442
      @jackduncan5442 년 전

      ​@@thefaceofunemployment1373 And I think you're an idiot.

    • @kkwjsshh718
      @kkwjsshh718 년 전

      it started again when mahomes carried a final injures

    • @jamanwashington9478
      @jamanwashington9478 11 개월 전 +2

      ​@thefaceofunemployment1373 tom brady brought them back regardless of the situations. He has been doing this whole career with roster change. 6 game winning drives which is super bowl record. Team sport but he was the main reason they won

  • @lemonman823
    @lemonman823 3 년 전 +963

    It’s like Mahomes isn’t scared of the big moment but his whole organization is 😂

    • @AA-ji2my
      @AA-ji2my 3 년 전 +16

      Exposed!!!!! They exposed that boy fraud fake

    • @quadrebain9660
      @quadrebain9660 3 년 전 +49

      What did you watch? Mahomes looked nervous & scared the whole night

    • @ePhoram
      @ePhoram 3 년 전 +143

      @@quadrebain9660 no he didn't lmao what game did you watch, no o line, the receivers were dropping passes, and the defense wouldn't stop getting flags lmao he was the only one that wanted to win

    • @quadrebain9660
      @quadrebain9660 3 년 전 +15

      @Jayhxu go look at his face during the super bowl, he was shook

    • @quadrebain9660
      @quadrebain9660 3 년 전 +29

      @@ePhoram he started the game 2-10, stop making excuses for him. Talk about how he kept running backwards in circles then throwing up prayers. He should’ve called some run plays to get tampa out of cover 2. He isn’t on that level as a quarterback to read and adapt.

  • @Terror832
    @Terror832 3 년 전 +224

    The throw Mahomes made on 4th and 9 was ridiculous. Falling down and still able to make the long pass.
    Too bad the receiver dropped the pass. Summed up the night for the Chiefs

    • @nahimgood8546
      @nahimgood8546 3 년 전 +59

      that entire game was just mahomes vrs the world

    • @brettt141
      @brettt141 3 년 전 +4

      Yup mahomes throwing up prayers and his luck not being high enough

    • @mrallenbruce1
      @mrallenbruce1 3 년 전

      Facts!

    • @acethehooligan5972
      @acethehooligan5972 3 년 전 +1

      Considering he threw it to. A running back who can’t catch to save his life

    • @kcp1760
      @kcp1760 3 년 전 +1

      Yes and he also had 0tds in a superbowl lol

  • @jusrarsh4109
    @jusrarsh4109 3 년 전 +23

    When you provoke the Goat, you catch a serious beat down. Simple Math kids. It’s simple math. #12

  • @ponypower8
    @ponypower8 3 년 전 +26

    TB12 = GOAT. "Never underestimate the HEART of a CHAMPION" Stephen.

  • @NateWongSongs
    @NateWongSongs 3 년 전 +171

    Stephen A has morphed into the Skip Bayless role from the Skip and Stephen A era.

    • @tacotacotington3638
      @tacotacotington3638 3 년 전 +11

      You say that because neither of them will ignore the facts, Tom is the best. The newer younger ones are always pushing for the next big thing

    • @kratoids
      @kratoids 3 년 전 +4

      they are both absolutely correct when it comes to Brady though he is undeniably the goat

    • @MoonlightCactus
      @MoonlightCactus 3 년 전

      Let's see how many subscribers i will get in this comment
      Current Subscribers: 57

    • @Berkmnn
      @Berkmnn 3 년 전

      @@MoonlightCactus let’s see how fast you get ghost banner posting comments like this

    • @focused4841
      @focused4841 3 년 전 +2

      @@kratoids its not even close hes in his own league imo

  • @peakpiece7137
    @peakpiece7137 3 년 전 +327

    Mahomes already has 4 INTs in his 2 SBs.
    Brady has 6 INTs in his 10 combined.

    • @ckq
      @ckq 3 년 전 +42

      Game manager.
      Tom Brady's Career Start
      2001: Carried by D, Tuck Rule
      2002: Missed Playoffs and Pro Bowl
      2003: Carried by D, missed Pro Bowl again
      2004: Solid, but still carried by D
      2005: Mediocre 10-6 without an elite defense, first round exit
      2006: Carried by defense but still lost AFCCG
      2007: MVP season, but lost to his daddy since he wasn't getting carried
      2008: injured and Matt Cassell led them to 11-5
      2009: mediocre 10-6, first round exit even with an elite defense.
      This is what Patrick Mahomes is being compared to:
      Mahomes has had a way better career start than Brady who missed the playoffs at the same age as Mahomes
      Mahomes' Career Start
      2018: MVP in first season with worst defense in the league, robbed of Superbowl by refs, Dee Ford, and Coin Toss
      2019: Injured, came back and won 8 straight to win the Superbowl with so many clutch performances while having average defense
      2020: Made 3rd straight Pro-Bowl (Brady missed it in his 2nd and 3rd season), definitely deserving of MVP contention, Superbowl appearance despite having Turf Toe, Concussion, and third string O-line and mediocre defense
      Patrick Mahomes first 3 years in the NFL >>> Brady's first 10.

    • @sebastianv.3284
      @sebastianv.3284 3 년 전 +73

      Montana has 0 interceptions in all his super bowl games

    • @Palahume
      @Palahume 3 년 전 +1

      Staggering 😁

    • @peakpiece7137
      @peakpiece7137 3 년 전 +78

      @@ckq Didn't read, don't care. Eat this 7th.

    • @vincegonzalez6804
      @vincegonzalez6804 3 년 전 +50

      @@ckq haha you’re such a Brady hater and a Mahomes fan boy. It’s okay. Brady started his career in a way different era. Mahomes era is that of protection to the QB. Pat will most likely never have to encounter an ACL and MCL tear like Brady did and his receivers will not have to face getting whacked in the middle of the field.

  • @marcusluceroholden2768
    @marcusluceroholden2768 3 년 전 +339

    Why he was even in the goat conversation to begin with I don’t understand

    • @cjdonahoo101
      @cjdonahoo101 3 년 전 +68

      Bc he won a super bowl, made it to another, and almost made it to one more in his first 3 starting seasons. And only has like 10 total losses. The dude is still insanely talented regardless of last night.

    • @thatleftyjames2893
      @thatleftyjames2893 3 년 전 +30

      Because he's one of the greatest talents to ever play, he was no where close to the GOAT yet but everyone said there was a path in a decade or so.

    • @devcarter1654
      @devcarter1654 3 년 전 +25

      Marcus Lucero Holden,
      Agree 💯. Just how does a QB get to be in the GOAT discussion after winning just one super bowl. Mahomes may be talented but he sure ain't the GOAT.

    • @raymatp1
      @raymatp1 3 년 전 +23

      @@cjdonahoo101 I think people are just easily jumping on mahomes bandwagon because of recency bias. He is a great QB, i understand that but every great QB also had that argument. You cannot call someone GOAT because they are insanely talented or because they won 1 SB early in their career or how few losses they had. You had to have something that separate you from great QBs to be called the GOAT. For example, Brady got 10 SB appearance, 7-3 record. Manning won back-to-back SB. Montana got 4-0 in SB. What does Mahomes have that he can brag to other QBs that are called GOATs?

    • @thischannelisdead3165
      @thischannelisdead3165 3 년 전 +2

      Bro just because he had one horrible night doesn’t mean he’s still not a great quarterback plenty of the good quarterbacks had that one horrible game they played

  • @beanbow32
    @beanbow32 3 년 전 +129

    This performance doesn't hurt the legend of Mahomes--
    it reaffirms the critical nature of the role of Offensive Line in your success.
    These guys are stars.

    • @TheDestructodave520
      @TheDestructodave520 3 년 전 +21

      It did hurt the legend of Mahomes. Because people arent gonna remember the O-line issues. People make fun of Brady for losing to Nick Foles but he threw for 505 yards and 3 TDs. Brady's O-line was also beat up and injured, and so was brady, during that Giants superbowl, but its never mentioned. Hes just mentioned as losing to Eli.
      Thats just how it is. Most of Brady's blemishes were decided by 1 score, and generally he had his team up. But they are considered massive blemishes on his record of greatness and he had to win 5-6 rings before those were even washed away and he could be better than Montana.

    • @Psycho_Logical_631
      @Psycho_Logical_631 3 년 전

      Thomas Edwards Patrick Brady Bayless Jr III 🐐 period

    • @matt-sg7ox
      @matt-sg7ox 3 년 전 +1

      O-line issues aren’t going to be remembered? But that’s the main reason why the Chiefs lost the Super Bowl. Every time Mahomes hiked the ball the rushers were always close to getting him but he managed to throw the ball on some plays. The rushers broke threw the o-line letting Mahomes deal with almost getting sacked.
      Mahomes may have thrown some bad throws but other than that the whole team wasn’t cooperating with each other. It can’t affect the legend of Mahomes if the whole teaming wasn’t doing their job.

    • @TheDestructodave520
      @TheDestructodave520 3 년 전 +4

      @@matt-sg7ox No, they wont in 8-10 years. You dont remember anything about that Patriots game except the helmet catch and the loss. People dont remember Brady threw for 505 yards and 3 TDs vs the Eagles. They just know he lost to Nick Foles.
      All people care about is whether you won or lost. Yea, right now its fresh in your mind, and maybe it'll stay fresh longer for Mahomes fans, but 10 years down the road people are not gonna care nor remember the specifics of this Superbowl, just like every superbowl before it. Your gonna remember a play here and there and thats it.
      A lot of teams go into superbowls and struggle due to injuries but do you remember it? No. All you remember is the outcome.

    • @matt-sg7ox
      @matt-sg7ox 3 년 전 +1

      So it doesn’t affect the legend of Mahomes knowing that he has only lost 1 Super Bowl and yet has many years ahead of him to probably have more Super Bowl rings than Tom Brady.
      Patrick Mahomes has only been in the NFL for 4 years and has already been to the Super Bowl 2 times, I’m pretty sure this loss won’t really matter in the future and just be one of those losses that he learned from and made him a better quarterback.

  • @wavesonswim8128
    @wavesonswim8128 3 년 전 +130

    The age thing is what makes this so dope. Football careers are short. Even for QB’s.

    • @10mangakid
      @10mangakid 3 년 전 +12

      And the fact that mahomes didn’t score a single touchdown.

    • @greatbingus
      @greatbingus 3 년 전 +3

      a zerrrrrro touchdowns
      3 field goals

  • @nightelfuser
    @nightelfuser 3 년 전 +327

    Mahomes has been playing in the NFL for like 3 years, why's he already considered a legend? These commentators are nothing but cheerleaders and fanboys.

    • @Zeldaturtles
      @Zeldaturtles 3 년 전 +39

      MVP at age 24 and has shattered most passing and TD records at his age. Don't be ignorant

    • @manuelastoria679
      @manuelastoria679 3 년 전 +31

      @@Zeldaturtles and just took the biggest L in his career. Will he bounce back? Yeah but this L will never be forgotten lmao

    • @kingnano1172
      @kingnano1172 3 년 전 +25

      @@manuelastoria679 why we acting like Brady ain’t get beat by a Giants team that had no business beating the Pats at that time? 😂

    • @manuelastoria679
      @manuelastoria679 3 년 전 +31

      @@kingnano1172 because now he has 7rings lol the sorry as giants got 2 on him and are irrelevant lmao

    • @demetriussmith9234
      @demetriussmith9234 3 년 전 +13

      @@manuelastoria679 he lost to the goat this doesn’t hurt his career it’s not like mahomes wasn’t getting hit but still throwing dots but players dropping the pass

  • @josea5092
    @josea5092 3 년 전 +15

    Even if you hate or love Brady you have to give that man his props winning his 7th Super Bowl at the age of 43 to the best young QB and last years champs 😎

    • @jamalkirkwood7926
      @jamalkirkwood7926 년 전

      Last time I checked Mahomes don't play defense

    • @ArganawkTLOD
      @ArganawkTLOD 11 개월 전 +2

      @@jamalkirkwood7926 he plays offense, how many points did they score in that game???

  • @mor3beef
    @mor3beef 3 년 전 +98

    This “discussion” ended 2 rings ago after the comeback against ATL. Matter a fact mahomes was never apart of the discussion to began. Only names I should ever hear are Young, Brady, LT, and Manning with Brady far ahead of everyone else. I’m a steeler fan btw🤝🤵🏿

    • @chriswang2702
      @chriswang2702 3 년 전 +3

      Its Brady easily but I would also toss Jerry Rice in that convo

    • @thegreatone6180
      @thegreatone6180 3 년 전 +9

      What about Joe Montana? U kidding me?

    • @thegreatone6180
      @thegreatone6180 3 년 전 +5

      Joe Montana is better than everyone u just said other than Brady

    • @thegreatone6180
      @thegreatone6180 3 년 전 +2

      Im so shocked by your ignorant comment I gotta ask did u put Young over Montana?

    • @BratatoChip
      @BratatoChip 3 년 전 +5

      @@thegreatone6180 Montana is 4 for 4 in Super Bowls. I’m with you he’s second behind Brady 💯

  • @ryanjameson8959
    @ryanjameson8959 3 년 전 +80

    It's crazy how easy it is for football fans to drop a belief after a single game

    • @TheDestructodave520
      @TheDestructodave520 3 년 전 +5

      Its a belief that should have never existed. It would be like saying Brady is the GOAT aftrer his first super bowl win, or even his 2nd, over Montana. Meanwhile, Brady didnt even get a reluctant GOAT until he won 5 rings. Even at 4 he wasnt considered GOAT.
      But People were already labeling Mahomes the GOAT off 1 ring.

    • @l.sweeney9924
      @l.sweeney9924 3 년 전

      @ryan Jameson Big facts! Although it may have been a SB loss, but Brady has had SB losses too, no matter the score. Mahomes will be back next season and better than ever, count on it!

    • @tbirum
      @tbirum 3 년 전 +1

      @@l.sweeney9924 Yes he will, and people are acting like P.H played bad, (HE DIDN'T) if this had been any other QB they would have lost 55-3 P.H did what he could do, Travis Kelce caught 10 pass for like 130+ yards, but he did have that one costly drop. PH and TK were the only 2 Chiefs players who showed up.
      All of that being said. Brady at age 43 beat a 25 year old QB
      Brady is 7-3 in SB's and PH is 1-1 I do not see PH playing until age 43 So lets say he plays till 40 (which I feel is a fair number) (keep in mind with all of his scrambling and running he puts himself at a higher risk of injury then a pure pocket passer like Brees of Brady) PH has 15 years left in order to get 7 more SB wins that is NOT an easy task (for any QB) Brady is the G.O.A.T
      I think PH is the best QB playing in the NFL ATM (better then Brady, better then Lamar, Better then Arod, better then Russel Wilson) But G.O.A.T Status is determined by Career numbers and I just do not see PH getting to Brady's level (even though they are switching to 17 game regular seasons which means PH will have extra games over his career to pad his numbers.

    • @l.sweeney9924
      @l.sweeney9924 3 년 전 +1

      @@tbirum for me, the GOAT status is not what bothers me, it's the fact there was a comparison in the first place. He's only 4 years into the league at 25 years old. Let him build his own legacy. Who started the GOAT talk, we didn't🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @wishingb5859
      @wishingb5859 3 년 전 +1

      @@TheDestructodave520 I was watching an interview Oprah did with Tom Brady a few years ago and he said that he felt that the young players have been done a disservice because they are hyped as if they had accomplished something when they were actually just beginning their careers. He didn't say it about Mahomes. He said it about the culture.

  • @Lycan4647
    @Lycan4647 3 년 전 +419

    Bradys gonna have his own statue when he retires.

    • @sportsnowwithdariusaiden1257
      @sportsnowwithdariusaiden1257 3 년 전 +29

      He should honestly be in the Hall of Fame while he’s still playing!!!! We are witnessing flat out greatness right now!
      We have a sports show called Sports Now with Darius & Aiden and we would really appreciate it if you would check us out!

    • @jackofalltrades8933
      @jackofalltrades8933 3 년 전 +3

      Duh 🙄

    • @hecslove4972
      @hecslove4972 3 년 전

      Yea in his home

    • @victorhardin2186
      @victorhardin2186 3 년 전

      Where ? Cause new england isnt having it. Hes dead to them

    • @racso452
      @racso452 3 년 전 +5

      At every stadium

  • @Xervello
    @Xervello 3 년 전 +10

    Just remember, folks, Brady ran through the Legion of Boom in the 4th quarter of that Super Bowl. He was something like 10 for 10 with 2 touchdowns. Sayin' that (as a Brady fan) to give props yet again to those Giants teams and Eli the Brady killer.

  • @ShadowGamingENT
    @ShadowGamingENT 3 년 전 +76

    I like how mahomes get every excuse but Lamar gets DRAGGED across the whole network

    • @sergioduran8556
      @sergioduran8556 3 년 전 +5

      I didn’t see mahomes throw a pick six when he had all the time in the world in the playoffs mahomes threw those picks bc there wr couldn’t catch Lamar threw it straight at the guy

    • @TomPraytor
      @TomPraytor 3 년 전 +7

      please don't compare the two. one of them can throw the football.

    • @afo4478
      @afo4478 3 년 전 +2

      Don't ever compare the two because one throws the ball and gets Ws

    • @cj-qt6mj
      @cj-qt6mj 3 년 전

      Lamar is far more overhyped then mahomes and mahomes is very overrated. Best believe in the 2021 season mahomes will be nothing like he was these last 3 years 👌

    • @maxjones8641
      @maxjones8641 3 년 전 +1

      @@sergioduran8556 I seen Patrick two 2 int and have 54 completion percentage lol

  • @euluhgy
    @euluhgy 3 년 전 +241

    SAS is pure entertainment... that's all no sports talk should be taken seriously... carry on

    • @christianmcmahon1029
      @christianmcmahon1029 3 년 전

      But your job is to talk sports not say stupidity

    • @skipbayless4375
      @skipbayless4375 3 년 전 +13

      @@christianmcmahon1029 but that doesn't get views, just look at myself for example

    • @NobleVagabond2552
      @NobleVagabond2552 3 년 전 +4

      @@christianmcmahon1029 its entertainment. Thats it

    • @christianmcmahon1029
      @christianmcmahon1029 3 년 전 +1

      @@skipbayless4375 honestly I’d take you over Max Kellerman. He’s a dumbfuck

    • @christianmcmahon1029
      @christianmcmahon1029 3 년 전

      @@NobleVagabond2552 you’re an analyst, not an entertainer
      If you’re gonna try to entertainer least say something smart

  • @shaykayback
    @shaykayback 3 년 전 +173

    Brady somehow has the rings of Russell, the killer instinct of Jordan and the longetivity of LeBron.

  • @nomnsookeke4882
    @nomnsookeke4882 2 개월 전 +3

    Yet, here we are 3 years later and Mahomes has somehow wriggled his way back into the conversation. This is why I can’t ever take sports media seriously; they’re always prisoners of the moment

  • @noahyyy8358
    @noahyyy8358 3 년 전

    I’ve been waiting for this video!!!! Here we go

  • @theolddarksoul1129
    @theolddarksoul1129 3 년 전 +81

    I have no idea why mahomes was getting goat talks so early to begin with

    • @TAYLORGANG116
      @TAYLORGANG116 3 년 전 +29

      Media, built him up and dumped him just as quick

    • @ajgulag
      @ajgulag 3 년 전 +4

      Because his stats and winning record had him on Pase to be the goat

    • @carlosmanuel1106
      @carlosmanuel1106 3 년 전 +1

      I dont know either. Anoybody who agress is actully retarted

    • @MoonIronTR
      @MoonIronTR 3 년 전

      50 td and mvp as a rookie
      superbowl champ in 2nd year

    • @theolddarksoul1129
      @theolddarksoul1129 3 년 전 +4

      @@MoonIronTR he won the mvp in his second year & 1 title doesn't put you in goat talks till he wins 2 more titles Mahomes shouldn't be in any goat talks

  • @kevkeisha
    @kevkeisha 3 년 전 +194

    I love Stephen A., but when was Mahomes EVER a part of the "GOAT" discussion? How could he be? He is 25 with one ring!

    • @sportsmedia9647
      @sportsmedia9647 3 년 전 +10

      Espn called him that

    • @inigo4244
      @inigo4244 3 년 전 +15

      You know Tom Brady only had one ring at 25, he won his second at 26, but hes in the goat discussion, so I don't think its fair to say Mahomes can never be part of it

    • @rwoosh6609
      @rwoosh6609 3 년 전 +17

      @@inigo4244 tom won 3 rings before losing a single playoff game.and he was never talked about as the goat.Pat had played 3 SEASONS and people are actually like he a 15 year vet and 5 superbowls.he cant be even considered the goat until at least 6-8 rings

    • @VolcardoReviewer
      @VolcardoReviewer 3 년 전 +2

      He’s the best qb we’ve seen since Marino so yeah.

    • @dannyberrones273
      @dannyberrones273 3 년 전 +2

      Man what id give for just half of those holding calls in last years superbowl...whole different outcome!

  • @austinboatright7726

    Some of these comments are top notch journalism quotes.. I love it

  • @youthinkyouknowme5551

    When Mahomes is a SB MVP at age 39 & 43 and wins 3 SB's after the age of 39 and leads the league in passing TD's, Completions, Yards (5300) at age 44 get back to me in the year 2037 - Toss in that league MVP at age 40 also

  • @jnixx34
    @jnixx34 3 년 전 +48

    lets have this talk 10 years form now

    • @oscaramaral9502
      @oscaramaral9502 3 년 전 +4

      If hes still in the league

    • @oscaramaral9502
      @oscaramaral9502 3 년 전

      @Mustafa Mohamud so mahomies is only 15 years old?

    • @oscaramaral9502
      @oscaramaral9502 3 년 전

      @Mustafa Mohamud finally you edited your previous comment

    • @DoubleDash28
      @DoubleDash28 3 년 전

      Naw it’s over Brady the goat

    • @Panther2323
      @Panther2323 3 년 전

      @@DoubleDash28 obviously Tom Brady is the goat but Patrick Mahomes has had the best career start. I’m not counting out Patrick Mahomes but we’ll just have to see in like 10 years from now.

  • @deluxeh0
    @deluxeh0 3 년 전 +184

    That’s why you always pick the opposite of these “analysts”

    • @hipking23
      @hipking23 3 년 전 +4

      😂 😂 Facts 💯

    • @dominiquetall5511
      @dominiquetall5511 3 년 전 +3

      If each analyst picks a different team then who do you pick? That point didn't make much sense lol. Skip and Shannon and Max and Stephen picked Different soooo

    • @Xiicyy
      @Xiicyy 3 년 전

      @@dominiquetall5511 😐...😑

    • @r.d.9399
      @r.d.9399 3 년 전

      These mouth pieces are getting more and more annoying

    • @johncoffey2914
      @johncoffey2914 3 년 전

      Mahomie just told me the same thing last week 👍

  • @TheBeerman43
    @TheBeerman43 3 년 전 +1

    What a great team the Tamp Bay Buc's & Coaching staff that got it all together and won this SB in a great team effort....what a great TB defense to hold the great KC Chiefs to 9 points!

  • @bradobi154
    @bradobi154 3 년 전

    Thank you Max

  • @IsaacLifestyle
    @IsaacLifestyle 3 년 전 +521

    Let’s hope Mahomes doesn’t end up having a Aaron Rodgers career.

    • @fro-nominal4145
      @fro-nominal4145 3 년 전 +115

      Don't worry, Mahomes salary cap is going to cripple the chiefs in the near future. Just you wait and see.

    • @17RedKnight
      @17RedKnight 3 년 전 +114

      Dude, Mahomes got a 500 mil contract. There won't be money for a quality all around team. It really is looking like he'll wind up like Rodgers

    • @joaobrito2653
      @joaobrito2653 3 년 전 +32

      He might. I think both he and the chiefs made a huge mistake by signing a 10 year deal of 40 million a year. They won have the cap to keep good players unless they take pay cuts, and that never happens unless it’s the patriots because football is such a violent sport and folks wanna get their money to make sure they are good for their life after football. Brady by signing shorter deals forced the patriots to have to keep trying to get good teams because otherwise Brady could leave. Kansas City now can’t really get good players and they also don’t have to because mahomes is locked for 10 years. Also, in the last 15 years, no team that won the super bowl had a top paid quarterback

    • @savvytactics7740
      @savvytactics7740 3 년 전 +33

      Disrespectful to Rodgers, Mahomes would be lucky to have his career. We saw last night that Mahomes looks like a lot of other QBs (Darnold, Jackson, and Wentz come to mind) when he doesn't have wide open guys and time to throw.

    • @joaobrito2653
      @joaobrito2653 3 년 전 +31

      @@savvytactics7740 tell me one qb who looks good without time to throw and with no left tackle, a guard who hadn’t played all year. Peyton Manning looked garbage against that Seahawks team in a year where the Broncos broke just about every offensive record there was to break

  • @shanellmoonesinghe896
    @shanellmoonesinghe896 3 년 전 +177

    He has only one championship, the “GOAT talk” hadn’t even started, even if he had won this it wouldn’t have even started it would have kept the door open for the potential debate 10-15 years from now later in his career depending on how many championships he won, but the GOAT debate including Mahomes had never even started.

    • @RabiaaHQ
      @RabiaaHQ 3 년 전 +5

      All true but Max started it since last year.

    • @rheamoore2954
      @rheamoore2954 3 년 전 +1

      Yes i agree, mahomes has the potential but no where near close yet

    • @gimmedaloot8168
      @gimmedaloot8168 3 년 전

      Anyone who isn’t retarded sees mahomes is already the greatest talent of all time the goat discussions is already over after he threw 5000 50 tds his first year his highlights are better than every nfl player put together

    • @dgray8979
      @dgray8979 3 년 전 +3

      It’s been my understanding that people have said mahomes could be a GOAT candidate some day. I recall max saying “he’s the most talented QB he’s ever seen”. Which is different than saying he’s the GOAT.

    • @s.s7337
      @s.s7337 3 년 전 +2

      @@gimmedaloot8168 And yet he has more INT than TDs in the two Superbowls he's played

  • @jonion7884
    @jonion7884 3 년 전 +2

    max dropping the 100% truth bomb right at the very end there

  • @kevinwilliams5521
    @kevinwilliams5521 3 년 전

    Im from philly and i love this show mad max salute..Stephen a salute bro molly love her too..repn the women...good stuff

  • @teddygramz9242
    @teddygramz9242 3 년 전 +52

    The Bucs getting Vita Vea back in the playoffs was huge for that defense

  • @cam.crosby
    @cam.crosby 3 년 전 +1630

    I changed this comment so now you have no idea why it has so many likes

    • @jalves6494
      @jalves6494 3 년 전 +102

      It would of been an even worse overreaction if Mahomes won the game being proclaimed the best player of all time by everyone on ESPN way to early in his career. It would of gone both ways.

    • @brycewoodford7174
      @brycewoodford7174 3 년 전 +73

      He won a single Super Bowl and somehow he got in the convo for the greatest ever. That was the real overreaction.

    • @michaelrumanowski1250
      @michaelrumanowski1250 3 년 전 +19

      But it's not an overreaction. This game will forever stain him vs. Brady.

    • @datsapaddlin6449
      @datsapaddlin6449 3 년 전 +7

      @@jalves6494 Yeah I get he’s fun to watch and great but they assume everyone can be the goat off one ring lol.

    • @MalakhiW
      @MalakhiW 3 년 전 +9

      I wanted Bucs to win but we all can admit that game isn't on mahomes

  • @firewalkwithme2539
    @firewalkwithme2539 3 년 전 +5

    Mahomes is all talent. Fantastic player. He will grow from this. Every body takes a beating sometime. Brady is the goat.

  • @cede.p.1267
    @cede.p.1267 3 년 전

    0:25 that's the same thing my boy said. This reminded him of the Seattle win v Broncos

  • @cantu7214
    @cantu7214 3 년 전 +54

    Now Mahomes knows what Watson and Wilson have to deal with on a yearly basis

    • @mxrdyj
      @mxrdyj 3 년 전 +1

      Bruh stop it. Mahomes ran over 500 yards behind the line of scrimmage trying to elude pressure, neither of the players you mentioned have ever had to do that

    • @nicksims4584
      @nicksims4584 3 년 전 +3

      @@mxrdyj this is one time. If you average the amount of yards Deshaun has to run a game, that’s a pretty big number over 4 seasons

    • @MaadhatsOnTwitch
      @MaadhatsOnTwitch 3 년 전 +2

      @@mxrdyj I've watched every game of Russell's Seahawk career and its 100% true

    • @ajthelegend727
      @ajthelegend727 3 년 전

      @@mxrdyj rlly Deshaun does dis all da time cmon

    • @smime5672
      @smime5672 3 년 전

      @@ajthelegend727 he has literally never reached the amount of yards ran behind the line that Patrick mahomes did in this game what do you mean all the time

  • @harrydawson7986
    @harrydawson7986 3 년 전 +11

    Congrats tom. From a Pat's fan this was just as good to watch tb12 and gronk win another even with another team. Much love from the Patriot nation

  • @Cheddah106
    @Cheddah106 3 년 전 +3

    NFL GOAT is etched in stone, hats off to you Brady

  • @ReneParada
    @ReneParada 3 년 전 +3

    When Brady missed Welker in SB 46, the media blamed Brady. When Brady lost in SB 42, when he led the team to a lead in the 4th quarter after being annihilated the whole game by the Giants D-line, he was blamed. When Brady lost SB 52, with all his stats that game, was blamed for not catching a pass and fumbled the ball when he tried to win the game from 80+ yards out. Yet for Mahomes, it was the O-line and the receivers not being open? He has Kelce and Hill, plus hardman and edwards-elaire. He has the Reid Bienemy coaching studs. What more does he need? They could not adjust, and that was it. They are not the team everyone thought was

  • @razor-sharp
    @razor-sharp 3 년 전 +413

    The chiefs didn’t lose to Tom Brady they lost to the Bucs!

    • @CWizzyTV
      @CWizzyTV 3 년 전 +72

      Facts that defense was playing on a different level.

    • @richardhernandez4819
      @richardhernandez4819 3 년 전 +4

      Thanks for saying it

    • @guilhermelopes54
      @guilhermelopes54 3 년 전 +73

      Where were the bucs before brady?

    • @Mj-uz1ng
      @Mj-uz1ng 3 년 전 +21

      @@guilhermelopes54 facts

    • @IMAWESOME1338
      @IMAWESOME1338 3 년 전 +9

      17 years since yall touched even the play offs before brady . brady beat the chiefs the bucs helped

  • @BMORETODAY
    @BMORETODAY 3 년 전 +68

    Tom Brady is almost unreachable now. Undisputed GOAT!

    • @kodakwhite1696
      @kodakwhite1696 3 년 전 +1

      He is certainty unreachable at this point

    • @daocean1103
      @daocean1103 3 년 전 +1

      He is because no qb will be on the teams he had and have a debatable call go his team's way in big games or things just fall in line as perfect as the bucs did. Lol

    • @TheDestructodave520
      @TheDestructodave520 3 년 전 +2

      @@daocean1103 More like not many QBs of his caliber is going to take paycuts just to win. Brady's entire career has been about winning, and I dont think many players have that, regardless of what they say. They all want paid. Even with Brady taking less money, some of those Patriots teams were just terrible, and he was still winning.

    • @moneyblue8466
      @moneyblue8466 3 년 전

      @@kodakwhite1696 nah people beat the bucs many times

  • @07fufufu
    @07fufufu 3 년 전

    Stephen is right on this topic

  • @woopityscoop2863
    @woopityscoop2863 3 년 전 +11

    One loss in a year of a 10 year contract got us already concluding stuff about his career 😂

    • @kodakwhite1696
      @kodakwhite1696 3 년 전

      A 10 year contract that’s taking up more than half the cap space😆 Tom took pay cuts his whole career and look at where it led his teams, 6 rings with the pats🤔🤣

    • @woopityscoop2863
      @woopityscoop2863 3 년 전 +1

      @@kodakwhite1696 Again, Brady has lost Super Bowls before. Can't win them all.

    • @KingAlexander98
      @KingAlexander98 3 년 전

      He has a huge future but let’s be honest people won’t be able to compare him to Brady until he wins 8 Super Bowls and that’s one tall order thing is it’s plausible depending on how he deals with this devastating loss. Either he looses confidence in himself or comes back a more humbled and hungry athlete. He is the leader of that organization and they need to trust in him giving him the best team they could possibly get to support his talents just like the buccaneers did for Brady.

    • @aaronalvarado9944
      @aaronalvarado9944 3 년 전

      @@KingAlexander98 i think he probably had a understanding with that o line it was going to be harder, talent wise he’s still the best he just couldnt catch a break which resulted in him running for his life or forcing passes to not get hit anymore

    • @tomjoad929
      @tomjoad929 3 년 전

      He's just saying it's a mark against him if he's going to be the goat, like LeBron losing to the Mavs

  • @tinsaederesse9173
    @tinsaederesse9173 3 년 전 +68

    Mahomes loses in the postseason:"oh well, he did everything he can. It's a team sport and his teammates failed him.
    Lamar throws 365 yrs, rushes 143 yrds and throws 2 picks: "ah I told you he's a bust! He didn't stop derrick henry, didn't let his receivers catch the ball, and didnt help his O-line and was absolutely out coached. He failed his team. "

    • @ezekwu
      @ezekwu 3 년 전 +9

      facts...

    • @mfgoat4367
      @mfgoat4367 3 년 전 +10

      Mahomes did everything he could and lamar did everything they just disrespecting lamar

    • @NFLtoUFC
      @NFLtoUFC 3 년 전 +1

      lmao mahomes was playing on his own dude

    • @bafoonerysamurai6911
      @bafoonerysamurai6911 3 년 전 +7

      @@NFLtoUFC so does Lamar 😂

    • @sleepyhead9732
      @sleepyhead9732 3 년 전 +1

      Because Lamar is trash he can’t throw. All he throw is to Mark Andrews for a 5 yard TD in end zone.

  • @swaran8251
    @swaran8251 3 년 전 +23

    Hardly anyone gave bucs chance with this Kc's o line, now excuse is o line 😂.

  • @comptonassrockett8419

    Didn't expect the game 2 go down like that

  • @nataniell6230
    @nataniell6230 3 년 전 +80

    There is no way you can blame Mahomes for yesterday

    • @nostalgiacorner1999
      @nostalgiacorner1999 3 년 전 +8

      I agree

    • @slimbeatz5619
      @slimbeatz5619 3 년 전 +9

      Facts

    • @billysummers1616
      @billysummers1616 3 년 전 +14

      Quick passes would of worked, slants, dump offs, etc. He kept looking downfield knowing it wasn't there and he didn't have time, Mahomes definitely deserves some of the blame,especially for the amount of credit he gets and people acting like he's the second coming.

    • @reneehaigh419
      @reneehaigh419 3 년 전 +5

      They were too cocky

    • @kcsniper1243
      @kcsniper1243 3 년 전 +7

      @@billysummers1616 that was not on him the play calling was bad. Eric never adjusted to like you said more screens and short routes

  • @dallasmarcum1416
    @dallasmarcum1416 3 년 전 +62

    Nobody changes their mind faster than the Media. Personally I think Mahomes will have a very similar career to Lebron. Statistically having an unbelievable career, but forever being compared to somebody who’s been so dominant in the championship games.

    • @MrYunus999
      @MrYunus999 3 년 전 +1

      I see Pat getting 6 of the next 10 rings... the Guy is 25 people talking like he 35 thats the Young Goat when he gets 35 he Will have atleast 7-8 rings... watch the chiefs get next years ring

    • @dallasmarcum1416
      @dallasmarcum1416 3 년 전 +7

      @@MrYunus999 there’s zero doubt in my mind that Patrick Mahomes is UNBELIEVABLE and will win plenty rings. But what I’m saying is that he will now be under the same microscope Lebron is under because he’s being compared to a goat too early in his career. That path just got much more difficult.

    • @smoovemoves2917
      @smoovemoves2917 3 년 전 +1

      This is so tru!

    • @vulcanraven9701
      @vulcanraven9701 3 년 전 +3

      @@dallasmarcum1416 Lebron overrated. Dude just flees to different allstars everytime. He isnt even a great defender like kareem mike or others.

    • @mitchrapp5214
      @mitchrapp5214 3 년 전

      Lebron doesn't even have the stats just media manipulation

  • @lebronbrady6638
    @lebronbrady6638 3 년 전 +3

    In 07 Brady had an injured ankle and his O line was beat up as well lol

  • @papi-sauce
    @papi-sauce 3 년 전

    yall need to stop comparing them and just appreciate both for their greatness

  • @tigerhoods7927
    @tigerhoods7927 3 년 전 +30

    You just know max, Shannon and nick are sick this morning 😂

  • @markdouglas9182
    @markdouglas9182 3 년 전 +27

    Props to Stephen A. He was one of very few sportscasters who has consistently said we need to put the brakes on crowning Mahomes as the "greatest".. " Future GOAT", and all that BS. Lets see a bigger body of work. Lets see him under duress.. with less weapons and bad Offensive line, etc. Lets wait a while! Please!

    • @parkerbloom5367
      @parkerbloom5367 3 년 전 +2

      Yes please, we need to wait for Patrick Mahomes career to be over and see where he is then

    • @dakid5
      @dakid5 3 년 전 +3

      Doesn’t mean anything. Stephen A also said back in 2012 when bron lost his second finals he’s never going to be seen as the GOAT and now look at him , he’s got a GOAT Case.

    • @robinschmalbrock5357
      @robinschmalbrock5357 3 년 전 +3

      As good as Mahomes is, he is overhyped. Until now he was consistently well protected by his O-line and never really had to run for his life like Watson and Wilson. He is extremely skilled as a QB, but there is more to it than skills. There's experience and leadership. He now has a chance to take the next step after experiencing this loss and being completely dominated by the opponent's D-line.

    • @loganperry6540
      @loganperry6540 3 년 전 +3

      That wasn’t a bad oline, the was the worse performance by an oline in SB history....29 qb pressures

    • @loganperry6540
      @loganperry6540 3 년 전

      @@robinschmalbrock5357 Chiefs had a bad o-line this year. Schwartz fell off the deep end, fisher was inconsistent and Tardif sat out all year. Btw, Mahomes had two dropped TD passes yesterday. Mahomes never had a chance. Terrible gameplan, kelce and hill dropping passes. Of course he’s going to look overhyped when you just look at the box score

  • @bobpayne4112
    @bobpayne4112 3 년 전

    Hill was like we thought they be in man again 😆

  • @treasmith255
    @treasmith255 3 년 전

    Super happy for Shaq Barrett man I loved him in Denver get those rings bruh ✊🏼

  • @DanielRGonza
    @DanielRGonza 3 년 전 +167

    Dam Stephen A 😂 dude career ain’t even close to being over

    • @playgroundofsound7683
      @playgroundofsound7683 3 년 전 +12

      Happy tom brady history month

    • @noominiacal
      @noominiacal 3 년 전 +1

      You really think he's got a shot to go to another 8 Super Bowls, winning 6 of them? You have to understand how ridiculously efficient Brady is at winning. He has more Super bowl championships than any FRANCHISE! What franchise has the most? New England with 6. Which were won by Tom Brady.

    • @Jon155mt
      @Jon155mt 3 년 전 +7

      He still butthurt that Rodgers will never be as good as Mahomes.

    • @yoda9256
      @yoda9256 3 년 전

      @@noominiacal Pittsburgh has 6...

    • @wazemo2764
      @wazemo2764 3 년 전 +1

      @@Jon155mt rodgers is much better than mahomes.

  • @dantheman8152
    @dantheman8152 3 년 전 +8

    It was never a discussion! Let Mahomes continue to form his own greatness!

  • @mikke2130
    @mikke2130 3 년 전 +1

    I thought that after the first year of mahomes playing like ok Ive seen this before this guy is a one hit wonder, after the second year I was like ok this guy is legendary. He is going to win a couple of super bowls mark my word.

  • @davidmc446
    @davidmc446 3 년 전

    I agree whit everything max says about boxing but Stephen A is absolutely right on this one

  • @c83j57
    @c83j57 3 년 전 +7

    Being a life long Washington “Football Team” fan I was proud to see how hard we played the Bucs and now seeing how KC went down Im holding my head much higher today! HTTR

  • @162iceguy
    @162iceguy 3 년 전 +59

    Mahomes was scrambling like he was in a horror movie or something

    • @inigo4244
      @inigo4244 3 년 전 +5

      You can't blame him, his O-line let him get rushed every single play, its like they put money on the bucs and they wanted their defense to penetrate

    • @hopehope5406
      @hopehope5406 3 년 전 +1

      @@inigo4244 we know that

    • @Zeldaturtles
      @Zeldaturtles 3 년 전 +1

      He had no left/ right tackle and his right guard

  • @hauncho8406
    @hauncho8406 3 년 전 +11

    Why are we acting like mahomes is 40 and about to retire? He can honestly be in the next 10 suberbowls

    • @taylorturner9834
      @taylorturner9834 3 년 전

      This what I said because I don’t see no one really beating them in the AFC. Ravens are runner ups but Lamar can’t even throw.

    • @deadlyoneable
      @deadlyoneable 3 년 전

      He would have to keep this pace up for 20 years and he’s already behind pace compared to Brady when he was at that pointI. There is no catching Brady on accomplishments. Mahomes may become the 2nd greatest though.

  • @malcolmexxx2109
    @malcolmexxx2109 3 년 전 +23

    when he’s good, he’s a potential GOAT but when he doesn’t live up to the hype now it’s the O line lol.

    • @pedrosanchez8524
      @pedrosanchez8524 3 년 전

      I think this was the only time the o line was the excuse

    • @comebackkid5976
      @comebackkid5976 3 년 전

      Mahomes did miss an early throw to mecole hardman which prob woulda been a TD

  • @elijahsimeon9935
    @elijahsimeon9935 3 년 전 +47

    This definitely hurt Mahomes but most of the blame goes to the Chiefs defense in the first half

    • @quentincassell840
      @quentincassell840 3 년 전

      No it don’t. The man got years and years left of playing and winning

    • @adamv9892
      @adamv9892 3 년 전

      @@quentincassell840 it doesn’t hurt Mahomes because he has years left? That doesn’t make any sense 😂 we all know Mahomes has years left and will likely win more Super Bowls but a loss in the SB especially in this fashion hurts anyone’s legacy

    • @tonyfarr2214
      @tonyfarr2214 3 년 전

      True, but their were some questionable unsporsmanlike penalties and PI penalties. Other than that Patricks O line let him down

    • @graydendonner3793
      @graydendonner3793 3 년 전

      @@adamv9892 Tom Brady lost a Super Bowl in similar fashion, so you sound stupid

    • @quentincassell840
      @quentincassell840 3 년 전

      @@adamv9892 Brady lost to Eli Manning twice so did that hurt his goat status? You not making sense. I guess it’s better to miss the playoffs or lose in the playoffs than the Super Bowl huh? Mahomes only been in the league 4 years fam. He has so many yrs ahead of him to accomplish things.

  • @petercipparulo3364
    @petercipparulo3364 3 년 전 +32

    Breaking when your recivers can’t get open or don’t catch passes the qb looks bad 🤯

    • @brettt141
      @brettt141 3 년 전 +4

      Please. You never gave that respect to anyone else. Mahomes was gifted a perfect situation and someone put mahomes into his place

    • @VanBoutDat
      @VanBoutDat 3 년 전 +1

      But Mahomes has so many weapons, they're unstoppable, Bucs got torched the first game. This is what I was hearing last week. Don't make excuses now

    • @wicklyfe8316
      @wicklyfe8316 3 년 전 +2

      @@VanBoutDat Exactly now its the all on recievers nd O-line

    • @Terror832
      @Terror832 3 년 전 +5

      Or when you are pressured a SB record 29 times you will have it hard.

    • @Unriven
      @Unriven 3 년 전 +1

      @@brettt141 every comments you spam in replies shows how much of a moron you are.

  • @d-manhd7182
    @d-manhd7182 3 년 전 +1

    Maybe 5-7 years down the line people will look back and say Mahomes didn’t produce that game, didn’t show up or people would look at the stats only and judge him..,
    I’m going to remember Mahomes running for his life keeping the play the drive alive for his team and giving heart out there. Personally I wouldn’t blame Mahomes sure look he and the chiefs didn’t win but he never gave up,
    Not a chiefs or Bucs fan, but the Bucs D well played honestly

  • @billgateseugenicist5842

    Aah I missed the energetic Stephen A. Smith. 😩
    Good going Max 😤

  • @masterwayneii1548
    @masterwayneii1548 3 년 전 +7

    “were going to get to that later on in the show” lets you know that this is going to be the conversation for the rest of the week.....

  • @ThePatman1980
    @ThePatman1980 3 년 전 +106

    "31-9"
    How do like dem apples, Nick Wrong? Going 0-11 in your bets. I see you picking losers is returning back to form.. 🤣

    • @accessb6744
      @accessb6744 3 년 전 +12

      Nick does not deserve to be a sports analyst. He is biased for disrespecting TB12.

    • @billysummers1616
      @billysummers1616 3 년 전 +6

      He's a clown, same guy that said Baker Mayfield is better than Josh Allen

    • @earlruiz7866
      @earlruiz7866 3 년 전 +4

      Clippers losing by 50 is worse😂

    • @the1truth420
      @the1truth420 3 년 전 +2

      Says the Clippers fan. He was right about the clippers last year. Hahaahah. Lakers baby

    • @ricardogrant3317
      @ricardogrant3317 3 년 전 +5

      We still remember that clippers blew a 3-1 lead 😂 😂 that sh*t is still funny 😆

  • @tonylyman7272
    @tonylyman7272 3 년 전 +1

    When stephen a just opens up old wounds talking about the Broncos😭😭

  • @dailywhipcontent8299

    I love it man fuel that young man

  • @donaldr.risner9579
    @donaldr.risner9579 3 년 전 +30

    Bruh he was running for his life with backups . is anyone forgetting that 😂

    • @davonross1022
      @davonross1022 3 년 전 +3

      He got folded that one tackle so bad they threw a flag for Patty😂

    • @donaldr.risner9579
      @donaldr.risner9579 3 년 전 +10

      @@davonross1022 lol true i just hate the narrative that Brady crushed Mahomes when in all reality the Bucs defense won that game.

    • @divinebeauty2070
      @divinebeauty2070 3 년 전 +1

      @@davonross1022 🤧🥴🤣😭

    • @davonross1022
      @davonross1022 3 년 전 +5

      @@donaldr.risner9579 well brady had 3-4 td to homes 0 the defense was really another plus for us

    • @akallstar5
      @akallstar5 3 년 전

      @@donaldr.risner9579 The defense was just the cherry on top, the game was over regardless.

  • @zhangtse-shan6081
    @zhangtse-shan6081 3 년 전 +123

    Tom Brady has been “OUTMATCHED”/underdog his whole life including the combine!
    GOAT:)

    • @fomalhauto
      @fomalhauto 3 년 전 +4

      I really enjoyed him Brady in the underdog role in the Super Bowl.

    • @AngelofAnguish
      @AngelofAnguish 3 년 전

      @@fomalhauto LIKEWISE! I'm a fan of "underdog" teams: the Bengals, the Jaguars, the Texans, the Dolphins, and the Panthers.

    • @Kevon420
      @Kevon420 3 년 전

      He’s never been outmatched LOL

    • @trevmac8362
      @trevmac8362 3 년 전

      @@Kevon420 2000 *Orange* Bowl - Brady's last college game ever vs. The +23 point favorite Alabama Crimson Tide - Result - Brady passing for 500 yards and 5 TD's for a massive upset win.. And back when Th Orange Bowl meant something.. Care to hear about his huge upset win in the Citrus Bowl over Arkansas the year before? I'll wager you don't

    • @TheDestructodave520
      @TheDestructodave520 3 년 전

      Pretty much. Its crazy even now, even this superbowl, he was considered the worse player. His entire career they have bet against him, lol. Hes just not flashy. And these people like shinies and trinkets and crazy passes. Meanwhile Brady just out there winning.

  • @pmarprim2662
    @pmarprim2662 3 년 전 +1

    Stephen A best take

  • @bradyisthegoatofgoats4769

    If you can't beat the best then you can't be the best!!! FACTS!!!

  • @shawnmoney8055
    @shawnmoney8055 3 년 전 +12

    The Goat discussion was over after He beat Atlanta, he turned Ultra instinct after being down 28-3 Ive never seen anything like that in any sport ever.

  • @sidhoward5218
    @sidhoward5218 3 년 전 +32

    Mahomes looked like Deshaun Watson, running for his life

    • @abrahamjackson6019
      @abrahamjackson6019 3 년 전 +2

      Yup

    • @destineyflagg5656
      @destineyflagg5656 3 년 전 +1

      Naw lol I disagree

    • @xannefrank
      @xannefrank 3 년 전 +1

      @@destineyflagg5656 You weren’t watching the game apparently.

    • @destineyflagg5656
      @destineyflagg5656 3 년 전

      @@xannefrank yeah that’s what you think I was dummy actually I just don’t agree with him everyone is in title to there own opinion so stfu leave me alone

  • @jacobbshelton2017
    @jacobbshelton2017 3 년 전

    Seattle nation that’s why I love Stephen a fr

  • @kyfresh2death
    @kyfresh2death 3 년 전

    They played some good defence TB I just wish it could have been a more close game. It would have been more exciting if the game was closer.

  • @BWillTheAddict
    @BWillTheAddict 3 년 전 +6

    Cant blame Pat for the loss even Kelce was dropping important passes. The pressure got to him and he still made spectacular throws