Defense mechanism. When your debating with someone who can literally change the subject bc he wants to you get this way. Kinda like a "damned if i do damned if i dont" attitude. Stephen A knows what he does. Do a little research and you'll understand it. People subconsciously associate the volume of someone's voice with the knowledge and leadership they have. So whenever Stephen A is wrong he gets louder bc he knows people will believe him more and view him as being assertive and knowledgeable. Thats Jay Will's way of politely telling Stephen A to STFU.
Amen 🙏 lol 😆 Embiid is the most overrated player in the NBA and Ben Simmons is right behind him imo He hasn't improved a single part of his game since being in the NBA smh he's is averaging less rebounds per game then his rookie season, is averaging the same assist per game as his rookie season and is 1 point per game better then his rookie year but less points per game then last season while playing 2 minutes more a game then his rookie season! He is barely shooting above 60% FT! He hasnt improved one bit shooting the ball in 3 seasons! As for Embiid dude wknt ever carry a team cause he's can't handle the load of playing 35 minutes a game let alone play 40 plus minutes a game which is needed by the best player on a championship team! Embiid will be out of the league in 5 years his body will not last as we've seen it already! Not to memtion dude has never shot more then 50% FG in a season in his career which is absolutely trash for a Center!
That is so true. People forget how incredible Dream was. His commitment to dominating on both ends is what set him apart. Embiid’s continual lack of conditioning is what continues to hold Philly back as much as Ben Simmons’ jump shot.
You act like they all just went for lay ups Yet they shot the jumper! Midrange game back then and they scored more in 80s then now! Magic would kill with no hand check and pick and roll game stop he can hit a 15 foot jumper
Jay Williams bringing u Magic Johnson winning a chip without a jumper in ancient history, in cases you missed it Jay basketball today revolves around 3 point shooting
Magic could shoot tho lmfao dude shot above 30 percent from 3 in his last 3 seasons while averaging more then 3 attempts from 3 a game! Also averaged 85% FT over his career! While Simmons is averaging barely over 60% FT in his career! Magic could shoot he wasnt asked to or didn't need too tho cause he was by far a way better facilitator than Simmons! To compare Simmons to Magic is a disgrace! Stop trying to compare Simmons who has never averaged more the 10 assist per game in a season to Magic who averaged 11.2 assist per game! Magic also averaged above 15 assist per game in 2 separate years in the playoffs! Sick of the overhyping of Simmons and Embiid! The 2 most overrated player in the NBA!
@@Kmasetv exactly I been tellin people for years that Ben Simmons INABILITY to hit jump shots so that the middle opens up for Embiid will be the reason they will always fail
I hate when ppl try saying Been Simmons is the reason Joel embiid can’t score. AD does a great job scoring in the post with javar McGee clogging up the lane too. Ad is just better at reading the defense and learning when to kick the ball. And blame their coach for not putting embiid in better position
@@dominiquebrown2890 not quite ,, Richardson is shooting 32% from 3. Tobias Harris is under performing this season. Al Horford is not a shooter either. Only Embiid can shoot and that's only because we are comparing him to the other starters.
Watch Simmons surprises everyone and bring out a shot in the playoffs . It’s something he knows people least expect and when your opponent don’t have a read on you good game . Chess not checkers 😏
We talking about a player in Simmons, who isn’t a rookie, been in league for a minute, and still hasn’t developed a shot. Like I understand he couldn’t practice or play but ima be honest you got money buy a basketball goal or set up a mini court at yo crib and practice. He could have been working on it for months and got to practice and did some work at least become a pick and roll shooter.
They should do so many more Ben Simmons-Joel Embiid pick and rolls and start tobias Harris at pf and al Horford off the bench. The floor will open up more.
As a celtics fans. I am kinda scared to face the sixers. Because over the quarantine they’ve probably resolved their team chemistry issues and they don’t even need to be afraid of playing away games which is very good for them.
Problems for the 76ers: Chemistry Shooting Guys like Al Horford completely underperforming Coaching They just don’t try as hard if it’s not a home game (and in Orlando, that’s a big problem) Way too many problems to beat the Raptors, Celtics, Bucks or even the Heat.
The difference between magic not shooting and Ben Simmons not shooting is that back then they couldn’t just play zone and actually would’ve had to guard Ben from three otherwise it’d be illegal defense
I bet if they split them up Simmons will make jump shots. I don't think he scared I just thing he doesn't care about it to much. I dont care for either of them but I do want them to succeed, because it makes the game interesting.
Is that his fault? Ben wont shoot outside of 6 ft the front office didnt surround these 2 with a plethera of shooters notnto mention tried to pay Jimmy less and give Tobias and Simmons a max
Simmons plays very consistent basketball. Always shoots a high percentage (even though all his shots are close to the basket), plays good Defense & a very good distributor & rebounder. Embiid is the reason for the 76er's struggles. Embiid needs to shoot at least 55% from the field every game for the 76er's to have a chance & that's rare for him.
Who's more important for the Sixers, Simmons or Embiid? Marcus: Simmons SAS: Embiid Jay: This question sucks, the question should be who is Brett Brown?
I'm not saying Brett Brown doesn't have partial blame but everyone piles on him like he's an awful coach. The worst part of this team is the roster construction and unfortunatly, the man charged with roster construction is also in charge of whether the coach stays or goes. So I think we all know who's gonna take the fall for poor roster construction
I hate when ppl try saying Been Simmons is the reason Joel embiid can’t score. AD does a great job scoring in the post with javale McGee clogging up the lane too. Ad is just better at reading the defense and learning when to kick the ball. And blame their coach for not putting embiid in better position to score 💯
Jay Will doesnt really know ball. Magic Johnson can shoot. Dude was shooting near 3 threes through 88-91 and making over 1 per game. He also had an ok mid range. He would baby hook from like 16 feet out and hit open jumpshots. Magic was a complete player smh.
Once they get a better coach it’ll be a real contender, also Tobias Harris and horford should’ve never got max contracts . Harris is a avg streaky starter .
The 76ers need to make sure both players are put in the best position to get the best out of both, wether it’s changing coach or choosing who is better but they need to do something
B Simmons doesn’t need a jump shot. He can get to the basket anytime he wants and he can distribute the ball to open shooters. Simmons knows what he can and can’t do. As for Embid, he needs to go back and look at film on some of the greatest big men in NBA history, like Hakeem the Dream or Tim Duncan and develop some post moves. He needs to stop shooting 3’s like he’s Steph Curry. If they do that, they’ll be fine.
Magic Johnson played in a completely different era of basketball. This is no shade because I am a Lakers fan but we got to be real. you couldn’t play that way in today’s league
Sixers are no comparison to that Lakers team not even close. Kareem over 20 years only missed 80 games. Embiid has missed over 200 games in just 4 years.
Im sorry they added Robinson and Alec burks who bring them the outside shooting they needed, plus the luxury of time off given to them to heal key injuries (like the rest of the NBA); without a doubt, if they dont win coach Brown GOT TO GO. Embieed and simmons is plenty.
It’s bad enough listening to ESPN’s panelists talk about their own sports most of the time, I really don’t want to hear football players doing basketball and vice versa.
Simmons is not Magic Johnson. He's just a forward with decent handles. And why would you build your team around a guard who can't shoot in an NBA dominated by three point shots?
I don't even think you can say "when Ben Simmons gets a perimeter shot". I honestly think you have to say "if Ben Simmons gets a perimeter shot". Cause I honestly believe it's 50/50 on him getting a perimeter shot.
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Jay Williams brings up Magic Johnson like we aren’t in the year 2020😂 in this NBA your primary ball handler needs to be able to shoot the 3
Nah
💯💯💯I was thinking the same thing this is not the 80s
Exactly. Primary Ball handlers are needed to space the floor.
Jays point didn’t make sense...the lakers had tons of weapons on that team
No he doesn't, he only needs good shooters around him, and even better if your bigs can space the floor.
Why is J will always sounding so condescending. Is it just me?
I hear it too. And he rarely has a good take too lol. I think a lot of the ESPN guys try to emulate Stephen a in some form
He does not have a consistent logic... lol
kefkapalazzo1 he tries to be like SAS
That's how DOOK players are
Defense mechanism. When your debating with someone who can literally change the subject bc he wants to you get this way. Kinda like a "damned if i do damned if i dont" attitude. Stephen A knows what he does.
Do a little research and you'll understand it. People subconsciously associate the volume of someone's voice with the knowledge and leadership they have. So whenever Stephen A is wrong he gets louder bc he knows people will believe him more and view him as being assertive and knowledgeable. Thats Jay Will's way of politely telling Stephen A to STFU.
Embiid dont have the stamina to carry the offense AND anchor the defense...hes not Hakeem lmaoo
Amen 🙏 lol 😆 Embiid is the most overrated player in the NBA and Ben Simmons is right behind him imo He hasn't improved a single part of his game since being in the NBA smh he's is averaging less rebounds per game then his rookie season, is averaging the same assist per game as his rookie season and is 1 point per game better then his rookie year but less points per game then last season while playing 2 minutes more a game then his rookie season! He is barely shooting above 60% FT! He hasnt improved one bit shooting the ball in 3 seasons! As for Embiid dude wknt ever carry a team cause he's can't handle the load of playing 35 minutes a game let alone play 40 plus minutes a game which is needed by the best player on a championship team! Embiid will be out of the league in 5 years his body will not last as we've seen it already! Not to memtion dude has never shot more then 50% FG in a season in his career which is absolutely trash for a Center!
If he was in better shape he would be Hakeem that's what pisses us off!
Matisse Thybelle will be the x factor of the 76ers run!
That is so true. People forget how incredible Dream was. His commitment to dominating on both ends is what set him apart. Embiid’s continual lack of conditioning is what continues to hold Philly back as much as Ben Simmons’ jump shot.
In today’s nba you shouldn’t build your team around a center, you will win but YOU WILL NEVER WIN A CHIP with the center as your number one option
Stephen A . "This brother is something special " smith
😂😂😂
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Jay brought up Magic like the 80s was a shooting era 🤣
You act like they all just went for lay ups Yet they shot the jumper! Midrange game back then and they scored more in 80s then now! Magic would kill with no hand check and pick and roll game stop he can hit a 15 foot jumper
Someone please make a meme of Stephen A. saying “did i say something when ya spoke” (1:42)😂😂😂😂🤣
Jay Williams bringing u Magic Johnson winning a chip without a jumper in ancient history, in cases you missed it Jay basketball today revolves around 3 point shooting
Magic could shoot the 3 point shot if he had to
Magic shot 85% from the freethrow line. Ben Simmons can't shoot 75%.
exactly, was gonna write this same comment
Magic could shoot tho lmfao dude shot above 30 percent from 3 in his last 3 seasons while averaging more then 3 attempts from 3 a game! Also averaged 85% FT over his career! While Simmons is averaging barely over 60% FT in his career! Magic could shoot he wasnt asked to or didn't need too tho cause he was by far a way better facilitator than Simmons! To compare Simmons to Magic is a disgrace! Stop trying to compare Simmons who has never averaged more the 10 assist per game in a season to Magic who averaged 11.2 assist per game! Magic also averaged above 15 assist per game in 2 separate years in the playoffs! Sick of the overhyping of Simmons and Embiid! The 2 most overrated player in the NBA!
Joel Embiid has to be a more consistent threat down low and stop taking all these jumpers
It’s hard to post when the paint is clogged because no one else is a threat from the perimeter.
Didnt he say that he shoots jumpshots because some has to?
Well if Ben could shoot Embid wouldn't have to be taking jumpshots🤷🏽♂️
@@Kmasetv exactly I been tellin people for years that Ben Simmons INABILITY to hit jump shots so that the middle opens up for Embiid will be the reason they will always fail
I hate when ppl try saying Been Simmons is the reason Joel embiid can’t score. AD does a great job scoring in the post with javar McGee clogging up the lane too. Ad is just better at reading the defense and learning when to kick the ball. And blame their coach for not putting embiid in better position
Simmons with a jumper would match up nightmare.
they should just play him like giannis then he would dominate like him
max watto he can be better then Giannis
Stephen A's face in the beginning when they were arguing with each other is so funny!
Philly was done for when they started trading away all their shooters.
False
@@dominiquebrown2890 Facts*
There only shooter was jj n he wasn’t traded ....
What shooters did we trade away. We traded shamet ok. But JJ Redick left us. So who are these shooters we traded away??
Jordan Davis false. Only shooter we traded was Landry shamet
"Did I say something when y'all spoke?"
😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Max Kellerman, please come back!
Bring back ryan hollins.
@@Chris-cx5qk omg hope your being sarcastic.. hollins would say kinds of nonsense
4:28 the one time Molly needs to talk and moderate she doesn’t
Literally all of em we’re talking simultaneously LMAO
The Key To Life we’ve traumatized her into silence
leave her alone bruh.....Thats my girl
@@thevibe7415 simp
It was a totally different league when Magic was playing. The current NBA revolves around SHOOTING. Horrible analogy Jay
Ben Simmons would've probably been a bigger star back then when teams didn't shoot the 3 ball as much
Actually the regular season is about 3pt shooting but the playoffs are still about mid range and defense.
Dominique Brown no the playoffs are still about 3 point shooting lmao
kefkapalazzo1 big facts
@@kefkapalazzo1 Exactly they all push towards the rim. You have to be strong and fast or a really good shooter
He can't shoot 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
It’s gonna be more important for Simmons if he gets a jumper Ben is gonna win the chip 💯
The way Stephen A said tho💀😂😂
FreeHongKong
He won't shoot.
Rondo couldn’t shoot. Still did well on a team that had some great shooters.
1:40 S.A.S had me in Tears😂😂😂 wait watch he's face when he starts shaking his head 😂😂😂😂
The problem is they have no shooting in there starting lineup, and Horford and Embiid cannot play together
What? Everyone in the starting lineup can shoot except simmons.
Kidaaaaaaan sengh roti khali????
@@dominiquebrown2890 not quite ,, Richardson is shooting 32% from 3. Tobias Harris is under performing this season. Al Horford is not a shooter either. Only Embiid can shoot and that's only because we are comparing him to the other starters.
If they dont find shooters they cant past semi or first round
@@dominiquebrown2890 shooting as in knockdown shooting , no one in there is a bonafide shooter
Sixers are turning into the Rockets of the East.
LockWolf Gaming and I’m scared
Not even close. Rockets will win the chip.
@@gpropho Russ got the Rona...
G Propho Loading nice joke 😂
G Propho Loading nope Russ got that rona
Watch Simmons surprises everyone and bring out a shot in the playoffs . It’s something he knows people least expect and when your opponent don’t have a read on you good game . Chess not checkers 😏
Jay that was in the 80s where you can get away with not having shooters. Can no do that against defenses today.
Wow that was good I wish they talked longer in this topic!!!!!!!!!
We talking about a player in Simmons, who isn’t a rookie, been in league for a minute, and still hasn’t developed a shot. Like I understand he couldn’t practice or play but ima be honest you got money buy a basketball goal or set up a mini court at yo crib and practice. He could have been working on it for months and got to practice and did some work at least become a pick and roll shooter.
"He can't shoot!!" 🤣🤣🤣 LOL
It’s not fair to only say Ben needs to shoot! Embiid also needs to quit trying to play like he’s Stephen Curry as well!
He takes a lot of three's because Simmons won't even attempt a three.
Who else is gonna shoot? Ben won’t, so it forced Joel to shoot sometimes
Very true
Great segment
Stephen a Smith's weapon: I let y'all talk,so now let me TTAALLKK
1:43 Stephen A. "DID I SAY SOMETHING WHEN Y'ALL SPOKE" Smith
Stephen A should get the MVP for person who chats the most crud
Better go watch his tv show then!
Philly needs to get it together. They've been so close. Last season broke my heart legit.
they should just play him like giannis then he would dominate like him
They should do so many more Ben Simmons-Joel Embiid pick and rolls and start tobias Harris at pf and al Horford off the bench. The floor will open up more.
They did exactly that Simmons is PF now Shake is PG
I love frist take bc Stephan a Smith bring Soo much energy I love it
I wanna know how many assistants will Embiid need to help him put his uniform on over his Hazmet Suit.
Can the NBA season start tomorrow?
Simmons is no longer the Sixers PG hes where he should be PF thanks to Shake Miltons Emergence
As a celtics fans. I am kinda scared to face the sixers. Because over the quarantine they’ve probably resolved their team chemistry issues and they don’t even need to be afraid of playing away games which is very good for them.
Hey Molly, Hey Molly, Hey Molly😂
I'm surprised they didn't mention Simmons' viral video of him missing the lake while throwing a fish.
Problems for the 76ers:
Chemistry
Shooting
Guys like Al Horford completely underperforming
Coaching
They just don’t try as hard if it’s not a home game (and in Orlando, that’s a big problem)
Way too many problems to beat the Raptors, Celtics, Bucks or even the Heat.
The difference between magic not shooting and Ben Simmons not shooting is that back then they couldn’t just play zone and actually would’ve had to guard Ben from three otherwise it’d be illegal defense
Simmons is underrated embiid is a big man god tobias is a legend and josh richardson is a defensive god. GO SIXERS
Only thing "lethal" about Simmons are his farts after Embiid feeds him baked beans.
HE CAN'T SHEWT!!!
I just hope they get knocked out in the first round so they can fire Brett brown
And get some shooters
I bet if they split them up Simmons will make jump shots. I don't think he scared I just thing he doesn't care about it to much. I dont care for either of them but I do want them to succeed, because it makes the game interesting.
Is that his fault? Ben wont shoot outside of 6 ft the front office didnt surround these 2 with a plethera of shooters notnto mention tried to pay Jimmy less and give Tobias and Simmons a max
@@northgaming2102 they didn't get shooters because they want ben to actually shoot.
@@kaza-pi1fo Furk, and Shake are great shooters lol. If Alec Burks and GR3 were consistent we would have tons of shootimg.
Simmons plays very consistent basketball. Always shoots a high percentage (even though all his shots are close to the basket), plays good Defense & a very good distributor & rebounder. Embiid is the reason for the 76er's struggles. Embiid needs to shoot at least 55% from the field every game for the 76er's to have a chance & that's rare for him.
Take a shot every time J Will says "ese"
Who's more important for the Sixers, Simmons or Embiid?
Marcus: Simmons
SAS: Embiid
Jay: This question sucks, the question should be who is Brett Brown?
Jim Halpert is about to dm Marcus Spears about that rundown
I'm not saying Brett Brown doesn't have partial blame but everyone piles on him like he's an awful coach. The worst part of this team is the roster construction and unfortunatly, the man charged with roster construction is also in charge of whether the coach stays or goes. So I think we all know who's gonna take the fall for poor roster construction
Bro embiid and simmions need 2 be more ball dominant and aggressive for them 2 win.
I hate when ppl try saying Been Simmons is the reason Joel embiid can’t score. AD does a great job scoring in the post with javale McGee clogging up the lane too. Ad is just better at reading the defense and learning when to kick the ball. And blame their coach for not putting embiid in better position to score 💯
Its coaching and proof Simmons doesn't hold Embiid back Embiid last season averaged 28 with Simmons
Jay Will doesnt really know ball. Magic Johnson can shoot. Dude was shooting near 3 threes through 88-91 and making over 1 per game. He also had an ok mid range. He would baby hook from like 16 feet out and hit open jumpshots. Magic was a complete player smh.
Once they get a better coach it’ll be a real contender, also Tobias Harris and horford should’ve never got max contracts . Harris is a avg streaky starter .
Marcus Spears on an NBA related video. Am I high right now?
This isn't the first time this has happened
Someone needs to leak a tape of SAS as a kid. He must have been a character.
Stephen A *it's my turn* Smith... 🤦♂️
Simmon is just scared to involve his game it's as simple as that.
Involve it in what?
Involve shooting into his game* is what i meant
He won’t need to shoot. Philly will be fine.
Stephen “He’s THAT DUDE” A Smith
ESPN/First Take should consider incorporating Marcus more on NBA topics. He always gives SAS a run for his money.
Jay will talking bout 70s ball like we aint 2 to 3 eras removed from that style of play 🤨 k'mon man
Embiid gonna be playing in a hazmat suit
Jay Williams always saying essay like he mexicano
Joel needs to come to south beach play with butler Heat need a center and he needs a team to help him win💪💯
Shake Milton at the point and Ben at the 4 Several ball handlers and The big fella. Eastern conference finals with this crazy season
The 76ers need to make sure both players are put in the best position to get the best out of both, wether it’s changing coach or choosing who is better but they need to do something
Its coaching we all know it
Amen
B Simmons doesn’t need a jump shot. He can get to the basket anytime he wants and he can distribute the ball to open shooters. Simmons knows what he can and can’t do. As for Embid, he needs to go back and look at film on some of the greatest big men in NBA history, like Hakeem the Dream or Tim Duncan and develop some post moves. He needs to stop shooting 3’s like he’s Steph Curry. If they do that, they’ll be fine.
Steph A : “He can’t shoot!! This brotha is something special”
U kno u can’t shoot when Joel out there Pullin more jumpers than you lol
they should just play him like giannis then he would dominate like him
THE FIRE BRETT BROWN
Magic Johnson played in a completely different era of basketball. This is no shade because I am a Lakers fan but we got to be real. you couldn’t play that way in today’s league
Shake Milton can shoot
jay williams got laughing/clapping and thought he was gonna be let off easy until stephen a. proceeded to shred into him
Imagine comparing magic to Ben Simmons when magic played in the 80s where you can win chips without shooting a lot of 3s lmao
He brought up Magic... it’s 2020 man the game changed, shooting is way more important now
seems like the process aint succeeding 🤣🤣
Marcus Spears needs a better camera light.
Ben Simmons have a offensive problem he isn’t aggressive enough and he can’t shoot
That lethal in every other category! That is Ben Simmons! He is a bad man. He will be league MVP one day.
Jay a fool for mentioning magic johnson. thats a whole different era.
Sixers are no comparison to that Lakers team not even close. Kareem over 20 years only missed 80 games. Embiid has missed over 200 games in just 4 years.
Who's more important, Embid or Simmons? They can't play together nor can they play on their own.
You sure bout that Sixers with Embiid Simmons have a 117 offensive rating
Thank God Stephen A calls out Brett brown... So frustrating that they keep him after the entire fanbase is against him.
Jimmy butler told us that something was wrong in philly but we ain't listening
Who else listens to Stephen A at 1.25 speed. You should try it
Jay Williams nobody was really shootin 3s in the 80s tho dawg, its a different game now
Yesssssss I'm betting on Joel
I never agree with J Will but the only part I agree with is that I'd build around Simmons if they had to split them up
Swagoo is hilarious
I would agree with Jay on his Magic point IF it was the 80's
Im sorry they added Robinson and Alec burks who bring them the outside shooting they needed, plus the luxury of time off given to them to heal key injuries (like the rest of the NBA); without a doubt, if they dont win coach Brown GOT TO GO. Embieed and simmons is plenty.
First time SAS waited to speak...... aggggggggghhhhhhh OSCAR
Embiid gotta post up closer to the basket
I keep wondering why Marcus keeps taking the younger players' side and I keep forgetting that he's only 37. Dude looks about 45
Ben Simmons And Joel Embiid are focused they will not be stopped and if Simmons shoots the ball this man is the next LeBron James without question.
It’s bad enough listening to ESPN’s panelists talk about their own sports most of the time, I really don’t want to hear football players doing basketball and vice versa.
Simmons is not Magic Johnson. He's just a forward with decent handles. And why would you build your team around a guard who can't shoot in an NBA dominated by three point shots?
J Rich performance is gonna be the x factor in why they win the champion.
I don't even think you can say "when Ben Simmons gets a perimeter shot". I honestly think you have to say "if Ben Simmons gets a perimeter shot". Cause I honestly believe it's 50/50 on him getting a perimeter shot.
Honorary 76er fan. Bringing his knicks curse