James Harden is the ‘thirstiest’ scorer, not the best - Max Kellerman | First Take
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- 게시일 2019. 12. 03.
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Max Kellerman and Stephen A. Smith debate whether James Harden is the greatest scorer of this era of the NBA.
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Max: "James Harden is not the best scorer of this era."
Stephen A: "You're right but let's argue anyway."
Aziz Wynder 😂😂😂😂😂
Forreal, even when he agrees with Max he argues as if Max was wrong lol
Boy they be hating on Harden. Harden is a way better scorer then now,not the past.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Pretty much what happened and was a good argument too lol
Max: "Kd's a better scorer"
SAS: "You're right, but you're wrong cos Kd's a better scorer, and a smarter player!"
Enough of this stale copycat comment already!
@@KevyB. the truth hurts DONT IT
KD IS A BETTER SCORER THAN LAMES HARDEN(0 championships)
Basically
@@LaurenMiddleton28 that's deep
GS Mason here why ....😆
Someone needs to tell Stephen A it’s ok to just say ‘I agree with you Max’.....
Memory Machingambi facts 😂😂
Memory Machingambi that’s what the show wants arguments
SAS is over paid
The segment would be over if he just agreed
Mr. Deluxe Express his stats are overrated
Stephen a smith : I covered iverson for 175 years 😭😭🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Golden!!! 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Joe Blow 😂😂😂😂
Joe Blow 😂😂😂😂
Bro the title has got me dead, “Thirstiest” 😂😂😂😂
Ridz 39 cuz gotta say pause
Right
Best take Max has ever had.
It's highkey facts too 😂😂
Ngl, if u think about it, that title really suits Harden perfectly 😂😂💀
I like that one: "James Harden is the most shameless scorer in this era."
He is style of basketball is straight trash, and the Rockets fan base are so fucking annoying! See you guys out of the first round.
Cheers
@@albundy495 rocket haters are annoying if your teams best player averaged 40 yall would be going wild
@@Abzyadiscod We like advancing in the playoffs though!! Are you 12?
@@albundy495 we were in the wcf and wcsf what you mean? We went head on with the warriors are you 12?
@@Abzyadiscod If he was on my team, I would switch teams!! I like TEAM basketball it a beautiful thing, when the balll is moving around and everybody eats.. Check out a Bucks or Dallas game. Thats Basketball!
When Molly said “.....”
I liked that
Rude 😂😂
*I felt that*
😅😅😅
I love how Stephen stars calm and slow, then gets progressively louder 😂😂
this is why he gets the big checks 😂
annefrank69420yeetnibba literally every time
You're wrong. Actually you're right.
Gotta get the wheels rolling first
This is the most accurate statement I have heard in a while
Chris Anderson right
Chris Anderson the man that averaged 29ppg 5 straight years isn’t the best 😂.
So much flaws in Max argument. 1) The reason KD was the first option is because he was drafted 2 years before harden and was a number 1 pick compared to harden who’s a 4 pick so of course harden is coming off the bench when Russ is their PG. 2) KD has a higher career Points per game because he was a 1 option his ENTIRE career compared to Harden who was a bench player for his first 3 years. 3) Harden has just as high a efficiency but because he takes TWICE the 3s as KD (both have the same 3pt%) OF COURSE his FG% is gonna he lower. I don’t have a problem if people give the edge to KD in scoring but MAX is skewing the numbers smh.
C Dai no
Max is right not the best scorer but come on Harden has the highest arsenal in NBA history the man has the greatest clips of violation one on one in NBA history 💯😂
Max's arguments are underrated tbh
50pts looks good until you realize he shot terribly and half the points came from free throws
1 point is a point. doesn't matter how you get it.
He has the most efficient 60 pt game ever!
The free throws, I understand, but not shooting well is another thing... But they winning N are strong in the west
...and he got 60 the other game on 16-22 (8-14 3pt) the previous game. This was just another game for the beard. He drops 50 on bad games. Best scorer ever. Best player in the NBA. Once EG comes back healthy say goodnight and a Iggy/Covington trade will end any competition.
@@kingrobinho777 that 60pt game was historical tho... That's why I think he could be THE ONE to hit that 100pt record sometime soon..
James Harden is the living embodiment of just using your favorite player on your 2K team and just making him shoot every shot to try to give him 50 or 60 points
*35% Fg and 20% from the 3 point line* Let’s not worry about that!
For real lol he playing mycareer
James Harden will make the most free throws in NBA history believe that!
Yeah probably sometimes he flops sometimes he actually gets fouled
Yep. His 40+ point games usually have around 20 FTs.
What promise land is harden taking anyone to lol
The promise land of WCF at most..
Astro land
What KD do without Steph ?
@@keynojuan go to the finals and average 30 on the heat
US O they won ?
50 points 24 Free throws ???
Rusty Shackleford DOES HE MAKE THE CALLS???
DO U WANT HIM TO MISS FREE POINTS
would u miss free throws on purpose bc u were getting calls in the game ??
@@unknownrage7691 Lkk at this Harden Meat RIDER! Giannis BACK 2 BACK MVP!!
I'm just saying how you gonna cry with that basket not counting when you got 24 free points.
Thirstiest scrorer in NBA history........I luv tht, tht describes him perfectly
kareem pusey facts
kareem pusey so how come today he scored 23 points on 7/11 FG’s and 6/6 FT’s and they won by 10 points? They were doubling him all game and he made the right read and passed at the right time - if he was the thirstiest scorer ever, wouldn’t he just chuck up shots like you all accuse him of?
Fire Fist Ace I’ve seen games when he got doubled and still drop 30 or more
@@firefistace7798 most games you see him he takes shots he doesnt need to take. He tries to put up shots when he can
@@firefistace7798 you're only using one game.We can use multiple examples of him chucking up shots on low efficiency with the rockets losing. When the rockets lost to the Nets by 7 points going 10-31.
KD makes scoring look as easy as tying your shoe, James Harden makes scoring look like a science project!
Not true at all but KD is the better scorer
@@1kpgc61 nah ima have to agree with his analogy
james harden has broken scoring down to a science to the point where people dont understand how hes doing it hes bent the rules to his advantage and he uses it but unfortunately it doesnt work in the playoffs
Deforest Gregg like a hockey project
Nah harden makes it look easy tbh he sit in the same spot and just shoot or go by you and get an assist. Lol it's like basketball for bums honestly. Looks like chucking but he can do it until the playoffs and people not giving up 3s / picking him up at half court.
Max just spoke facts
Bruce Leroy not really but now he just spoke facts
Giuliano Gonzalez
So much flaws in Max argument. 1) The reason KD was the first option is because he was drafted 2 years before harden and was a number 1 pick compared to harden who’s a 4 pick so of course harden is coming off the bench when Russ is their PG. 2) KD has a higher career Points per game because he was a 1 option his ENTIRE career compared to Harden who was a bench player for his first 3 years. 3) Harden has just as high a efficiency but because he takes TWICE the 3s as KD (both have the same 3pt%) OF COURSE his FG% is gonna he lower. 4) Harden was averaging 27/7/8/2 BEFORE D’ANTONI I don’t have a problem if people give the edge to KD in scoring but MAX is skewing the numbers smh.
@@cdai216 go away *copy & paste*
He's in Fax Kellerman mode
JP 🐐
Max “when it matters” Kellerman
Fate of the universe on the line
Ahhhh thts the one I was looking for🤣
So original...quit being a sheep
Kev. Mill | it still hit tho
“High-leverage moment”
Max: "Yo Stephen you seem like a nice guy and I really enjoy having you on the desk."
Stephen A: "Thanks Max, but Imma have to disagree with you, that I ain't a nice guy. However, I'm actually a nice guy".
😂😂
Fillet Mignon you forgot oh by the way
comparing Harden on the Thunder, to what he is now... is stupid.
Not when it's talking about an era. It all comes into account.
the spirts media is just like the regular media giving you fake news. The truth is James Harden is the best scorer right now. MK just don't like him.
That’s like comparing rookie Giannis, to Giannis right now. Its *Blasphemous*
Ky facts
Their talking about an era so you have to it into account😂.
Give Harden credit for inventing a new way to score 50pts:
50 points 11/38 FG 4/20 3P 24/24 FT
Analytics babyyy!! lol
11/38 no one should vote for him mvp
Abi Eli he had 60 16/24 the game before . Where were u guy? Stfu
Count every 2 fts as a field goal and he 23/50 which isnt bad
goat harden how many horrendous games have James harden had? I can’t even couldn’t how many times he went 3-15 from 3s in games
Westbrook should look into a career in construction after all those bricks.
He's been like that for years. Don't call him Westbrick for nothing.
Me and Harden should work part time for the Crane corporation, us two playoff chokers can do well putting bricks up for families.
RusseII Westbrick or building trumps wall 😂😭
Carlos I Sanchez Harden too! Dude went like 13 for 58 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“The thirstiest scorer” is what I call my ex
foster_the_shota_thread explain how that makes sense
Mac Sunny she liked to score the d?
@@ultimatepaine6401 i too give names to my hand
Johnny Boy i wouldn’t call your hand an ex, more like friend with benefits.
Who is the best scorer of this era?
Max: KD
Stephen A Smith: KD
Paul Pierce: Me
Kobe, MJ, KD could average 40ppg while playing on both ends under D’Antoni’s system period.
maybe even prime carmelo and mcgrady
Carmelo wouldn't play both ends
Rockets don't play D'Antonis system... This is pure idiotic narrative
Andiamdrew Dantoni is the coach of the Rockets 🙄🤦🏾♂️
Casual take
I have seen a lot of players flopping. But never saw a player base his game on flopping. And that is james harden, his game is all about flopping and having the ball at all times
yoendyprado maybe because he is the best player
Of course he will have the ball in his hand.
He is a shooting guard and point guard. He and Westbrook are the best ball handlers on the team that can make players for themselves and everyone else
maybe isolation but based on flopping??? don’t forget what league he’s in son
Stfu bro you don’t be watching the games just by this dumbass comment you just made
What even was the point of Stephen A’s part? KD is a better scorer period.
Stephen A sounds like he’s about to stroke out sometimes. He goes on rants where he never finishes sentences. Shits hilarious
Lol, he forgets to breathe!
max gives all the correct points
Steven A: "I agree with you but you're still wrong but I'm still right"
Enough of this stale copycat comment already!
They do it on purpose they just argue for the views
max is an idiot for putting kobe ahead of harden and bron..hes not a better scorer than either of them..stop it...bron could avg. 36 5 and 5 if he wanted to today
@@kyamsamji6347 finally someone said it, and yup they have set roles.
Maxx is on point on this one. I never thought I would say this-in million years especially considering the fact that he always discredit Kobe Bryant. Maxx is right though, KD is far more superior to Harden in term of scoring. KD is just a team player who wants to win championships. Kobe Is just a winner. Harden is just playing in a system that allows him to do whatever-a shameless scorer.
But even Kobe made 22 out of 55 for 60 points you can make less shots and even more points with less shots taken
If Kd and Harden were the same height would you still say Kd a better scorer?
@@sinceregolden7552 thts a point no1 really wants to argue lol, same like if mj was built like Bron, would there be a debate lol, u jus inviting the trolls to lose there minds lol
@@sinceregolden7552 that not a good question to ask.... they both have a different style of play........ plus we are not in the world of what if's....... thats like me saying if I was 6'8 I would be in the NBA, but you know how many people who are that tall and don't play in the NBA is alot....... Seth curry and harden are about the same height, but James is bigger and stronger but curry is way more efficient then harden.... so I don't think the height thing makes a difference.
Sin Da God dumbest point ever. For so many reasons.
Facts like how can you enjoy watching this man dribble 300 times to shoot 3 after 3 and shoot 500 free throws
It’s fun to watch? He’s one of the craftiest players on the planet.. he’s the greatest offensive player on the planet.. since when was greatness not fun?
Juleo L
Only white people hate isolation basketball
@@WarrenJr1996 trying hard to prove you're black aren't you
safe oh yeah because I care about being liked on KRplus lol
So overrated and it shows in the playoffs when the refs dont give him the calls that he gets normally in the regular season .. exposed and yall falling for it every season.. this isn't winning basketball
@ATL 1 he was talking about the playoffs, James Harden is never show up in the playoff and that's why they called him overrated.
Jeremy Tung he average 34 in the warrior series last year
"James Harden is a shameless scorer". I don't know if that is a genuine or backhanded compliment, lol.
Both
It’s a passive aggressive backhanded compliment. Absolutely nothing about that is genuine. He’s saying he scores by any means possible even if the majority of it is through free throws where you just flopping for fouls.
This playstyle isn’t a respectable one, but it works so no one really says much unless they will be deemed a hater.
Hence James harden is a shameless scorer.
SLICENSLASH it’s not a complement at all.
Geniune, definitely. That's a GREAT & ONLY way to describe that dude
For me it is not even a comoliment. It just says that he dosnt care about anything but his ppg avrage at the end of the day. Not how he gets it, not how his team does at the end of the day
Stephen “ the point I’m tryna make to you is this” Smith
Enough of this stale copycat comment already!
😂😂
Molly’s body language shows that she doesn’t want Stephen A smith to talk loud lol she only looks at max
Saucebro lol he is pretty abrasive
@Ms Ma’am To You she have to look at him that her job but she looks like she doesn't like it when ever he screams...
@@sami-axum3389 what are you talking about? You are seeing what you want to, god knows why
@@edvirgiliom lol did I say something offensive?
@@sami-axum3389 not at all, it's just weird to draw this conclusion, she looks at him the same way she looks at Max
“I covered him every day now” 😂SAS be excited asf when he talk😭
I can't believe I'm saying this...I agree with Max😔
He been on point alot tbh he just words it disrespectfully you could say lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Cuz u a hater
DaRomeo u hating then he bodies stephen A on these topics lol
ChaRobSton aye call it what you want.
This statement is true KD makes scoring look effortless. Harden is great but he has to beat the air out the ball. KD just makes scoring look to easy
LeBron makes it look the easiest as he gets his point on less shots more effectively. He tends to get his teammates involved and realized, aye I need to get my 25 real quick
@@imadeyoumadbruh4338 bruh deadass kd and lebron can make it look easy
Harden and PG both make it look effortless as well. they’re the two most fluid scorers in the league imo. not the best of course, KD is the best scorer
@@100ovrbatmanbron7 u make little to no sense, harden DOES NOT make it look effortless, hes inefficient. and has to pull out every cheap trick he can to draw those bs foul calls to get cheap points while over dribbling an using his signature stepback travel, u obviously dont know what the word effortless means😕
o.g Paramount you sound like a casual fan
The NBA needs an OFFENSIVE PLAYER of the YEAR award. 💯
SAS: “So why does that matter?”
Max: “Yes why?”
😂😂😂😂
“But here’s the part your missing ,The Point I’m trying to make to you is your Wrong and here’s Why”
Ace Wilson 😂😂😂😂😂
Thank you Max, I almost had to delete ESPN off of my subscriptions for the bullshit Tim Legler said
K Duff what did he say?
@@eddydede4275 he said selena gomez is hotter then ana de armas
@@getbuckets5718 LOL
get buckets which video
@@eddydede4275 He tried to say harden was a better scorer than Kobe.
He is not just willing to get to the free throw line. His game is the free throw line 😂😂😂😂😂
Giri Dharan L
Kahoot Legend 😂
@@PSTiedyeSpidey man is an actor and a basketball player bro just accept it
Other teams that includes your team!!! Stop fouling him...
Harden - 50pt game, Westbrick - triple double, Capella 22pts/21reb, and the Rockets still lose. Need I say more 😂😂
PJ tucker 6/9 from 3
Stephen A is literally on TV just so we have someone to disagree with
Soarkology XC y tv gnfnfnfbfnf
Its called a debate show for a reason.
Nah i agree with like 60 percent of his takes minus politic type subjects
Soarkology XC Stephen A is this show. If he leaves, AT LEAST 50% of viewers leave. Ain’t nobody care abt a “Max Kellerman.” Remember when he went on holiday? All of the comments then were, “When is SAS coming back,” “SAS has to come back to save this show.”
Steven A is gold
0:00 - Molly: "Max..."
Me: *closes video and proceeds to throw phone out of the window*
Lol I remember Jeremy Lin and Raymond Felton looked great with D’Antoni as a coach!
Chris Duhon too
People forget that the 14 sec shotclock after rebounds have made scoring go up
Max: "Stephen A you are right."
SAS: "Max, you are wrong and this is why"
No defense played. Everyone scores 30 now. Kobe MJ would average 40 in his sleep
Terrible basketball rn. ima stop watching the NBA soon. This guy Harden jacked up 20 threes and went to the free throw line 24 times!!! It's like a teenager messing around on NBA 2k20 out there
only 3 players Avg 30 or moor out maybe 500 🙌🏿
Maat Hotep
Kobe probably average 45. MJ most likely would average 60. Then the NBA would have to ban double teaming cuz that is what all their Defenders gonna do.
Wilt would average 60 points, 25 boards, and 10 girls a night.
Eddie Bitar I’m starting to think Kobe and MJ would average 50 like Wilt in this era haha
This man really said when harden and KD played together harden was the sixth man like he wasn't a developing player🤦♂️
McGrady was the purest scorer I’ve ever watched
Bruh....I'm glad somebody else appreciated what we got with T-mac. He was a animal. Mark my words. A healthy T-mac...we not talking about Kobe as much as we do because he would have been one of the greatest of all time period!
Tmac was a different monster. If not for those injuries. We wouldn't be having the conversations we have now. Kobe admitted it himself, the man was unstoppable.
JWI Guy he never won a playoff series how tf is he unstoppable
He choked in the playoffs multiple times and never made it out the first round. How can you say hardens overrated but not tmac? Lol
nobody:
Stephen a: I covered Allen Iverson for years
Jealous much???
Kev. Mill not everyone is jealous of other successful people mate. Some of us are successful so we don’t care
I say im glad he's brought up, somehow kobes rings get him so high that people forget who really was that guy of the 96 draft; 4 scoring titles vs 2.
Steph most efficient and fastest scorer, KD best scorer, Harden “some how winds up with more points” scorer. Simplified version
I feel like klay more efficient then curry
@@johnnydamns6848 curry's fg is always higher
@@davyjoneslocker4859 IQ is worse tho, I know that sounds stupid but hear me out. Alot of his shots are statistically the worst shot available , just because he can make em doesn't mean he SHOULD. They've lost a few games because of his habit of shooting half court shots
@@emanuelmartinez7267 but because he makes deep threes pretty often no coach will have a problem with it as long as it doesn't kill their momentum
@@davyjoneslocker4859 I get that but like I said there's been games where they've lost because he couldn't help but shoot deep threes instead of passing them up for better shots
0:30 when I’m trying to think of a comeback when I’m getting roasted so badly 🤦🏽♂️😂
Great content !
KD more complete, KD more efficient, KD plays the right way, KD plays within the offence, KD doesn't play for fouls, KD doesn't rely on the referees, KD isn't selfish, KD doesn't obsess over his personal stats or achievements over the team, KD doesn't play within a 7 second shot chucking D'antoni offence... KD is clearly the greatest scorer of this era and probably ever since MJ.
KD is better than MJ in scoring.
I mean KD is the best scorer imo. But as of now, it's definitely Harden. I'd even put Harden as first over KD for seasons. Scoring wise.
@@lyrics2challenged No he is not, He may be the best Rocket's scorer but not in the league even Devin Booker is a better scorer than James Harden.
@@rajaoctober14 Debatable, KD is more efficient yes, but I don't like to hold it completely against MJ as he came up in an era that did not massively emphasise 3pt shooting yet still averaged pretty much 50% FG with like 33% from 3, if he grew up in this era you know his 3p% would be closer to 40%, both were incredibly efficient but it's tough to compare stats between era's on shooting especially considering the changes that have happened
@@brzy1188 Mate I don't care about stats, I rely only watching them play. KD can do almost anything. I am a raptors fan last year Kawhi was all over on him with his huge wing span and claw hand but still KD posted over him. I have seen KD off balance and while falling down he had made shot. He can shoot from any where, midrange, pullup, fadeaway, etc. And I am not that into MJ's game. For me if i have to pick a team
C shaq
PF KD
SF Lebron
SG kawhi
PG Klay Thomson
Bench: Duncan, Steph.
Bruh this is the best take on Harden ever
He just something unique he can score 50 free throws and they we’ll be points at the end of the day
Thank You!!!
Harden is the living personification of everything that is wrong with what the league has turned into.
Facts
that's adam silver bro
And load management isnt?
Comes to play every night. Never load manage... highly durable..
Go look at Westbrook's stat line....SMH
Harden gets more than half his points from the ft line every night.
KD is the best scorer.
1986 free throw are the easiest shots to take tho
this is actually not true lol. yall just believe everything you hear. he'd lead the league the last few years still if you take out the free throws but yall don't wanna hear that
@@phealixosrs1831 Even so dude is still not as efficient as is and takes more shots imagine if If kd attempted more and as many 3s
@@TheChickenWasStillWarm sorry bro, lifelong KD fan, but if you think he would take 3 more shots per game from three and his percentage would only drop 2%, you're wrong. Harden career 36% from 3 on 7.5 shots, Kd 38% career on 4.8. KD is FAR more efficient AT HIS VOLUME. If everyone in the league took 24 shots like harden, noone would be near his efficiency.
@@TheChickenWasStillWarm Yall casuals dont seem to understand that efficiency drops as volume rises. Just because Durant shoots 38% on 5 3s a game for his career, doesnt mean he could magically start shooting 14 3s a game like Harden and maintain his 38% shooting %
Max: *Coughs*
Stephen A Smith: I'm gonna have to disagree with you and say BLESS YOU!
If I got a penny for every time SAS said, "I used to cover Iverson every day!", I could retire 😄
No you couldn’t keep flipping my burgers Tyrone
@@dontdie4him Riiiight. Flipping burgers? Is that you're level of thinking? Ya gotta expand you're thoughts dude
@@tyronepaulin700 make me a patty melt tyrone
People forgot how lethal Durant was as a scorer because he went to Golden State
@SK his numbers were not inflated smart one kd was winning scoring titles averaging above 30 as well
SK inflated? Lol bro you don’t know what you’re talking about
@SK bro, you just a hater dude. KD numbers weren't inflated.
SShaBazzz I’m pretty sure he meant to say increased not inflated.
@SK his numbers were deflated dumbass? and how is it his fault if everyone cant score? so if next season the nba gives fouls on every touch and 3 players averaged 40 you gonna discredit the previous because he could only do it on 30? Nba changes each year, teams change, strategies change
0:30 When the girl you love asks you unexpectedly to go on a date 😂
comes down to who brings home the silverware. efficiency and consistency.
First thing that Max has said that I agree with.
strippers in H-Town can attest 😂
🙊🤣
Thank you Max. This Harden fascination has gotten out of hand.
What does you mean? Y’all hate on him every single day
Dom Eberhart what fascination ?😂 there are people hating on that man everyday. More haters than fans
Idk. I heard Leglar say last night he was a better scorer than Kobe
Harden is trash
@@dniques328 its cause he was the first person get 60 points in 24 shots and in his trash 50 point game he was also the first person to get 24/24 free throws
THANK YOU MAX THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
Well said Max. Very well said sir.
Harden must be not trusted with the Fate of the Universe on the line
Seriously anyone who even dares to think Harden is a better scorer than KD needs a brain check..
1:05
Stephen A. Smith is my grandma tring to open facebook😂
Stephen A: kd is the better scorer
Also Stephen A: but harden is better
Ever since the China stuff Max Kellerman has been on a roll of good takes.
James Harden is the most heavily defended player in the nba
Basketball: A game about putting a ball in a hoop.
This is the song i always hear in the background when Max opens his mouth 1:16
THANK YOU MAX! This dude James Harden is great but he’s the definition of a stat padder for sure. KD is definitely a better scorer even though he doesn’t shoot as much and more times than not half of Harden points comes from free throws due to him always whining, complaining, and flopping to the ref.
Red Panty Night So KD doesn’t complain? KD is known for being one the of biggest crybabies in the NBA
James B Off the court not on the court. Actually KD probably complains the least about fouls more than any superstar
Everyone cries about fouls. Literally Harden is getting called a stat padder for being a high volume scorer?? Brother he has had like 6 games scoring 56-59 points. If he wanted to he’d have 10 60 point games by now. More than Kobe and MJ
Much easier to score nowadays. 3 pt shooters everywhere so the lane is often clear. The rules are also bias to offensive players. Little bumps can get called for a foul. Alot of travelling calls not getting called. Gather step was normally allowed by the refs to players drivin to the lane or someone riding on his momentum. Now ball handlers are allowed to do a gather step while walking or standing straight to do a step back jumpshot which creates more separation to the defender. No chand checking or hard fouls allowed. Also, no trash talking to beat your opponent mentally.
@@GEEZYEA777 i wouldnt call him a stat padder i hate that term but he does get bailed out by the refs constantly he's inefficient overall. Any player would look great taking all those shots under the coach he has. Just because he had a lot of 50 point games how efficient was he? How many free throws did he take? Who was he playing? All those questions and more should be asked. All those 50 point games dont equal anything because he cant do it when it matters most, in the postseason
Wow max you’re right on this one
Harden’s face on the Thumbnail, is probably his reaction to this irl
Stephen “Watch me make a dumb argument that has no relevance because I agree with what Max says” Smith
The only time imma agree with max kellerman
About dam time someone said something!!
Glad somebody said it
"You're right Max, but here's why you're wrong"
Stephen you jus proved wat Max said. Talking in circles
Max " in high leverage moments" Kellerman
Thank you
I really liked her input
6:23 she wanted to be part of the conversation but the guys were way too loud look at her face haha
Stephen “I completely agree with you but here’s where you are wrong” A Smith
James Harden has so many advantages over other players when it comes to his stat line - faster pace, d’Antoni system, getting almost every call and non-call - but in my eyes to be a truly great scorer you need to be it has to be done in a manner that can win a championship.
Great take Max “with the fate of universe on the line” Kellerman
We’ve also known that KD crushes Harden in the 1v1
Kd would crush anyone one on one. That's not saying much
lol they cook eachother.. kd has even said it
Literally if kd wanted to average 45 he could
Javier Aguila thats bot him and that Will never ever ever ever ever happen. Its like saying if lebron wanted to defend he would. Nooo he Will never be that person
Afro Style you know LeBron is actually playing defense this season, right? Terrible comparison, idiot.
Afro Style motivated bron does play defense. remeber the miami dayz??
@@1D.JFanMma He's saying he can if he wanted to dumbass.
@@1D.JFanMma Shitty comparison btw.
We marvel at the amazing scoring year that was 2018 for James Harden, forgetting the fact that he not only manipulated several of the NBA rules to help him get those amazing numbers, he also did it in a year that the NBA was lookin for a new protagonist, having grown weary of the Golden State nostalgia. If he was as prolific as the sports world made him out to be, then his dominance would've continued as it clearly didn't.
At this point Stephen A is jus great Entertainment 😂😂😂 agreeing to disagree to agree 🤣🤣🤣