Scottie Pippen says Doc Rivers set up Ben Simmons for failure. Stephen A. reacts | First Take

He’s also selling his house in Illinois

SO WHAT!!!!!!

I was wondering why Scottie been speaking up and talking crazy lately!!

His book and his new bourbon lol

Tell me about it bruh 😆

That podcast with JJ Reddick revealed a lot of things I knew to be true but hoped were just an exaggeration of how us fans have come to view the organization's inability to manage talent or progress weak areas in a player's game. We got to see it unfold on a national stage. Unforgivable.

@@tombstonejones9581 Fuxking A. I hate these players who don’t have motivation after being paid for potential. Aka, Wiggins, Simmons, KAT

Simmons is no good I agree. But it’s not just him embiid has some serious issues with letting his emotions take control and just pout in the corner. When your best player does that it rubs off on the team. If you’ve ever played competitive sports you played with some players like that and if they are a top player on your team you know how it destroys the teams spirit. I’m surprised no one talks about this. As great as embiid is he will continue to be a loser until he matures.

But the Sixers made it further than the Heat.....😂😂. Not a fan of Jimmy BUTTler. I get your point though

@@skat3r430
And the list goes on. Ben is not the only one. The guys that are hungry for a chance are not given any minutes and they keep them sitting on the bench. They should have put one of those guys in and took ben out. They gave Mann a chance and look what he's doing. They gonna have him starting soon. That's why I say, Doc should have put somebody else out there and gave them a chance to help win that series instead of constantly putting ben out there when he clearly saw what was happening. The Hawks were constantly fouling him because they knew he would miss the free throw and Doc let that happen. I just don't understand why he kept putting him back in the game.

he's right.

Think Jordan throwing him under the bus has anything to do with that?

He's not wrong though. Doc kept Simmons in the game. That's why he was exposed. Other coaches would have taken him out.

@Aaron9 Overrated? And how many championships did Jordan win without Pippen? So everything that comes out in Pippen’s book will already be known bout Jordan too?

Hes right

And women

Facts never hate the playa always the game. Scottie learned he can’t hate Malik or larsa just hate the game

Trying to find his identity I guess. Probably confused in real life.

Doc rivers is the worst coach ever

Never

Mike just took that personally.

That whole doc would be scottie dissing everybody 🤣

Doc rivers is awful

Hopefully soon!

For years they kept telling us Doc was one of the best coaches in the league, even an all-time great coach. But now as you look at his track record, it’s just bad. His reputation is really suffering as you see teams he used to coach succeeding way more than him, while he’s not able to improve or even regressed for the team he controls.
Like the lob city clippers should’ve achieved way more than what they did. At least one WCF. But no one said anything about Doc back then, whereas I think now we can start to wonder, especially when you see how well CP3 is doing with the suns on the DOWNTURN of his career.

Huh? The only way to prevent them fouling him & him missing free throws is just not playing him at all. So, essentially, if you play the highest paid player on your team you’re setting him up to fail?! So keep him off the court?

@@davidmiller6579 in first 3 quarter? No. In 4th quarter where statistically he has 0 attempt to score when your tram need to score? Yes. Bench him.
But no.... Doc $ivers is too stiff with his rotation and dont make any adjustments. Nor he develop any alternative option for this situation when know this problem with Ben Simmons that already last for 4 years.
Its like you build a house in the beach. You know it is near the sea, you know about tidal wave, rising sea water, abrasion, etc.... And in the end still wondering & frustrated when your house get flooded by sea water. Its stupid. So why tf you didn't prepare nor make any adjustments for it, when you already know that it will happen regularly, and after that, you even dare to blame others for something that you already know have high probability to happen sooner or later!?

Doc rivers is the worst coach in professional history

@@jalenross6562 I agree bro he's horrible

@Simone Derret simone he was being sarcastic lmao

@manditheos The league was treating him like a superstar

Yes is doc fauls to stick with ben

he's not the only one

correct

He wasn't being a good coach in that game.

He can't

Exactly he sucks

Black power.

He's been critical of him still

It’s obviouslyly pg’s and kawhi fault last year

@L'capertron Dookimariot How does the coach not take any of the blame lmao. Dude never asked him to shoot in game during the regular season…

He's an overrated coach who is average at best. With that said, he's not the fault of Ben Simmons play.

Ben simmons was already failing before Doc rivers that being said he should have taken out ben simmons from the game.

He deff did fail him he probably told him to pass first since he can’t shoot he started to play just like Blake Griffen in the Pistons

@@walli_dabarber blake griffin
was shooting when he was in detriot unlike ben

@@amtoelarroyo7924 yea he was but I know Ben a different situation he’s a paint shooter he just lost all of it it’s just sad to see him go I don’t like doc he’s been fired we would of been better keeping who we had and waiting for like a rookie coach like Jason Kidd

I think the lesson is be almost 7 feet. Dude already got payed

@@gobot581 Yeah he's paid, but if he keeps playing worse every time and ruins his reputation he'll get less pay. I mean, it's still great money, but we're talking about millions of dollars in difference, from being an All-Star to a regular NBA starter. I'm not just talking about salaries, do you think any brand wants to sponsor players with bad performance on the court? There's a reason why players like LeBron earn more in sponsorships than they do in salaries while the Javale McGee's of the world only make a fraction of their salary in sponsorships. Ben Simmons has the potential for greatness but if he falls short it's not only his basketball career that will suffer.

Doc rarely if ever ran a pick and roll for Ben with Trae's man setting the screen...basic basketball sense

Agreed

That's literally what Stephen A said.

The team overall plays horrible without Ben Simmons presents because he’s their point guard. They need his defense and for him to find the open man. George hill can’t do all that. BEN SIMMONS WAS PLAYING SO BAD TO THE POINT DOC RIVERS HAD TO PLAY A ROOKIE WHO BARELY GET MINUETS

Ben and Embid were the only ones playing defense, Curry and the other dudes were getting lit up.

well no. Ben needs to learn the hard way. I’m sure they’ve been telling him about this problem since brett brown.

33 year old lebron would’ve swept the bucks

@@MaineOneV1 33 year old Lebron isn’t a better offensive player than kd

All I gotta say is 4-6!🤣🤣🤣👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽

@Aaron9 he beat a 73-9 team and KD couldn’t .. so he obviously can do what KD can’t.

Paul Pierce no. Scottie yet.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Scottie’s fault for not signing that autograph

Lue took Rondo out the rotation.....now has Terrance Mann playing big minutes....sat Pat Bev and now has him playing against Booker because he needs that D. Lue got Zubac actually playing like a serviceable big.....Players believe in Ty Lue and if you aren't performing Lue will take you out the rotation.....Doc doesn't make adjustments to his rotation that is the difference

Doc beat the same Dallas team in 6 last year that it took Ty 7 to beat this year. Doc made similar adjustments last year, he also went away from Bev and Lou and relied more on Reggie.The Zubac move accomplished what? held Luka to 39, 44, 42 and 46? They removed Zubac and he immediately started hunting Reggie, Morris, Bev, Rondo and Mann. The only thing that slowed him down was his neck and anytime he was matched up with Kawhi. So why didn´t he make adjustments to make sure Kawhi was on Luka at all times? He couldn´t no coach can. You might slow down a great player for a few quarters or a game but its temporary and cosmetic. In the end Lue had to rely on his best players being better then the other teams best players in critical moments. His best players making above the system plays when things break down and they need a bucket, stop or rebound. Every single coach in the playoffs has to rely on that to get them in position to win. We need to stop the hyperbole.

@@trainerrob1622 He didn't have Kwahi on Luka the whole time because Kwahi is the offensive leader and he didn't want Kwahi to get as exhausted as KD looked against the Bucks. He was giving Kwahi spots to rest within the game. Personally I think Luka should of been Paul George's responsibility the whole series with Kwahi taking him the 4th quarter.

Doc RIvers putting Montrezl Harrell on Jokic last year instead of Zu still gives me nightmares.

@@trainerrob1622 You know there’s more to basketball than points scored, right?

Yep. And I bet management would have a problem with Doc not playing him.

This is why you dont pay for potential, it works only if the player WANTS to get better.

Right he gets paid to play and score period if he sat him they be saying he sat him to long

And it doesn’t even make for better content

Everybody knows this bro, where have you been?

It's called playing devil's advocate. Even though the analyst doesn't believe in what he is saying, it offers a different perspective to the topic that is being discussed.

You just noticed? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@@apiotales who tf would that slow to just notice now? I'm just saying this is solid proof. before then we were like 99% sure. Now we're 100%

@Philadelphia is trash Facts, he coached a dreadful series. I had flashbacks of Bret Brown

Simmons is useless, you would think with all the money they pay him, he would learn to shoot the ball, he's just pathetic

HE IS

Doc is a terrible coach

He’s right. Simmons numbers dropped this year with Doc. Ben Simmons clearly doesn’t like Doc. Ben needs to leave

Happens when you win a championship. RIck Carlisle and Larry Brown are examples.

@@C-Note-to6vk Dude F that. Larry Brown doesnt deserve that AT ALL. Yeah, his penchant for leaving gigs was annoying, but the guy is one if the best X's and O's coaches of all time, and turned around some AWFUL teams.
I also dont get how his championship is tainted in any way whatsoever. Fact is, he took a team that was a HUGE underdog against LA in 04, and SMASHED them.
Lakers had 4 HOFers on that team AND homecourt. How were the Pistons stacked? They won with great D, not offense.

literally every sports debate show?

Lmao they ARE. It's literally the point. And you're not supposed to think it's real either, because in some of their other videos one of them will be like "I know this is a debate show and we're supposed to disagree but..." It's okay it took me a while to realize too lol

No show if they agree on everything

Its called book promotion

Yup, no excuses for a 33% FT when you’re literally getting paid to play basketball, and many millions at that! Even shaq could shoot at least 50% so he’d be splitting FTs. But with Ben he’s only converting on a 1/3 of attempts, which is unheard of at the NBA level or any professional level. Also shaq would still dominate and not give up wide open layups. With shaq, even with his FT woes he’d still give you like 36 points, 12 boards, 2-3 blocks, and a few dimes. With Ben he may even struggle to break double digits and the opponent’s defense has no fear when he gets the ball, which hinders his teammates. Teams would actually fear Shaq having the ball.

@@dathunderman4 So true. You have shown me that you understand basketball 👍🏻

That's what I'm saying. If I was getting paid 144 million to play ball, you best believe I'd be in the gym every single day, even on sunday working on my jumpshot. Ben Simmons is taking his talents and being in the NBA forgranted in my opinion

He had a bad series, but the year was good, amazing how he came second defensive player of the year, team finished top, and Harris, embiid, and Simmons all played terrible in the finals

@@pineapplesideways3820 you mean the semifinals not finals.

@@johnpestano7077 eastern conference finals

Lol.

🤣

best espn comedy

You're laughing like a casual at the fact the starting lineup of Rondo, Ray, Pierce, KG, and Perkins were up 3-2 on LA until Perkins gets injured. You clearly weren't watching back then to not know the impact Perkins had on the floor.

I can most of you who liked this status dont know basketball.

No the reason they lost the 2010 finals was due to a complete steal job by the NBAto make sure Lakers and kobe won title cause the Lakers get beat up twice by the Celtics wasnt gonna be good to keep an old rivalry around and help TV ratings! Lakers on game 7 went to the FT line 21 times in the 4th quarter(4 more times then Boston went to FT line all game) Sorryno finalsgame should have a team going to the free throw line 37 times to the other teams 17 times! That's a complete robbery!

#1

Facts

And Ty Lue is underrated.

no really, no one ever high rates Doc tbh

@@kig4794 obviously not, he led a Celtics superteam to the championship and thats it

Facts. I see people saying it’s not docs fault but a lot of it is. As a coach is your job to hold you players accountable and call them out when they’re not playing up to your standards. They both are to blame

Yep he constantly told the media this season that he wasn’t there to shoot which means he drilled that into his head. Ben was at least taking shots before doc got there.

Thank you doc from the moment he got to Philly kept sweeping under the rug the fact that Ben can’t shoot and kept acting like it wasn’t a problem when in all actuality it was

I don't know about that he just needs glasses, obviously he cant see, he can see teamates but not the round rim

Perk has always been traah

@@hustace5758 nah perk before he got injured when he tore his acl he was solid though on them Boston teams

Celtics win that series in 2010 with perk same way lakers win 2008 with Bynum

@@christopherweaver3623 Except Lakers wouldn't have won in 08.

@@hustace5758 Tell me you didn't start watching basketball until the 2010's without telling me you didn't start watching basketball until the 2010's.

Agree

Doc failed the team tho maxey was balling if he pull Ben in game 5 the series is over

@@maleekgant9436 I’m not pulling an all pro player for a rookie

@@playoffp6680 I’m Ben Simmons fan but he shooting 30% from ft line he not attempting fg in the 4th qtr if you keep him in the game you choosing protecting his ego over winning the game

Swag

He should be playing at the PF position and 76ers should find a good PG then simmons could possibly be better.

This is scary accurate

Lmao idk about that. That team was loading if you think about it, doc never had a team like that. Kg, pierce, and Allen were vets and the rest were defenders. If the thunder moved the ball more, they would have at least 2 rings. KD, Russ, ibaka. Harden off the bench, solid role players.

@@Fearseblack harden was good but he was traded before he became a star. Then there were the injuries okc had after harden left. Kd and russ only got 2 good title runs as a duo. With how brutal the west was then, it's not surprising they didn't end up winning

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I wouldn't use the phrase "shooting ability " when it comes to Simmons, that would imply he has some sort of ability, when in fact he has none. It's more a case of shooting disability with Simmons.

If they keep paying him and didn't get into him and let him know he had to improve or be pull off the roster. What can you say. I personally think they have him playing the wrong position.

Why the kwamites never thought like that

Yeah Simmons has an issue but best believe Doc set him up for failure. Simmons wasn't like this last year. Doc is overrated and to me has never been that coach. He didn't win that Boston chip. The Big 3 did. Period point blank. So sick of SAS taking up for him just b/c he's a black coach. GTFOH with tha BS.

but Doc knew this is how Simmons is, we all know. you cannot just put him in blindly and not expect repercussions

ur right simmons def needs to take accountability.. dude clearly got no work ethic/motivation to improve offensively but doc is 1 of the most overrated coaches ever. hes not a gud coach dude has been given all the offensive talent u could possibly ask 4 nd has only won 1 chip

He averaged a triple dub the series before and had 17 the first game. He did his foul shot and he's fine... Doc refuses to play small with Ben as a point center that defends the 5... That hurry the squad... Trae exploited that drop coverage on pick and rolls

@@feliciawilliams5973, So tell us when Ben has worked on his offensive game to the point he is confident in himself to make a shot or to even take one knowing he might get fouled and then have to make a FT. If Ben were putting in the time and working on his game as much as other supposedly lesser players do he wouldn't have passed up an easy dunk to avoid being fouled. That was pathetic and not at all Doc's fault. Where is Simmons' midrange shot? How come he won't or can't shoot?

Like Ty Lue , or, you know, any good coach with half a brain

I dont remember the Orlando situation but if you dont have Grant Hill that kind of hurts and the Clippers never seemed to be healthy in the playoffs. I think he really handled things wrong with Simmons from the start but Simmons is a grown man and needs to take ownership of his career.

@@C-Note-to6vk sure not everything it’s his fault but when you look at the orlando situation, he never got passed the first round with tmac (sure tmac somewhat flamed out in some series) in boston he had the big three and coach tibs running that great 08 defense, with the lob city era i can’t complain, maybe that 2015 series but yeah they were cursed, but last year and this one i can’t give him any excuses

His wife is getting passed around like a blunt, dude is clearly off his rocker

@@aaaaaaaaa790 facts 💯💯💯😂😂

He selling a book. Of course he’s all in the news. Regardless he talking some huge Ls lol

@@mrbigstump63 facts fam 😂😂😂😂

@@aaaaaaaaa790 That ain’t his wife anymore and he’s rich and famous Scottie ain’t crying over women 💀

Don’t forget abt rusell westbrook 🤣

To be fair to the Wizards they never had talent like this or a good enough coach.

76'ers failed because of doc .. guy is a failure of a coach.

@@austindavid5121 They failed before Doc got there.

@@C-Note-to6vk Nah - He won that one championship. He can't adapt and make changes during the game. Look at Game 5 - If doc was there the Clippers would've lost. He needs to retired because he doesn't have what it takes anymore.

Simmons is a grown man that is an All-star in the NBA that's getting max deal money that was needed to rise to occasion in the second round of the playoffs. Stop with the Doc "Ruined" him.

I totally agree with you. My point being SAS has been proclaiming the ridiculous Lebron 2.0 for a guy who is no where near that. Plus he was high on getting Doc to bring Simmons out of his “fear” of shooting. Simmons in the playoffs, was his worse than last year. Fact. And for that Doc needs some blame. Remember when he slammed the reporter for asking if Ben should be in the game in the fourth quarter and said he didnt know basketball? What ended up happening later🤔

Simmons should of been seeing a sports psychologist the second Doc arrived. Doc should of told brass that is what was needed. I'm beginning to think it was KG and Rondo who ran those Celtics teams and not Doc.

@@ianburns2436 plus Ty lue running the offense and Thibbs ran the defense and it’s kinda clear clips had the top offense under ty lue and knicks had the top ranked defense under thibbs

Huh? The only way to prevent them fouling him & him missing free throws is just not playing him at all. So, essentially, if you play the highest paid player on your team you’re setting him up to fail?! So keep him off the court?

Ong

Lol.

Embiid made Embiid an mvp runner up. I wouldn’t give Doc much credit for that

My dude is tired. Carrying this entire network

U can talk if He got 6 rings and 1 of the 50 Greatest players of
All Time know ya History bro

@The actual truth he might want to. To get off his chest. Get his point of view. Seem as he talking about everything else but that. It’s like when you see him. It’s the elephant in the room.

its not like he's lying about simmons and doc

@@kurt168 true but putting it on doc why Ben career is messed up is inaccurate. Ben messed his career up before doc came their. Doc accidentally made Ben look worse by not sitting him down and playing him

@@jamalrobinson7330 True

It's Doc's fault. Doc ruined the series by being a bad coach. Ben doesn't have to be a shooter to be a good player.

@@clevisbernier8973 But teams should be able to do a hack a Ben? Lmao stop it, Shaq could shoot FTs better than Ben can....

@@artofmartialcinemaamc5334 so? It Doc's fault for not using him correctly.

@@clevisbernier8973 that’s Ben fault he can’t shoot you

@@derrickpatterson2401 he doesn't need to. A good coach wouldn't let that get in the way. Doc Rivers just sucks as a playoff coach.

Dang on right. Look at the Clippers last year & look at them now. Say no more!!!

@Randy Booker naw you dumb b/c it the coach does play a part. And the point I'm making is that Doc is overrated. PERIOD POINT BLANK!!!

Players development comes with coaching, the problem is that some of them have gotten away from that with all the other 💩. That's why certain player thrive when they leave🏃🏿‍♂️ philly especially and so on

@Randy Booker what? Have you ever coached any kind of team? It's the head coaches job to oversee not just the playbook but everything in team dynamics, including player development.