When A Teen Killer Realizes She's Been Caught

Mindhunter 3 cancelled?! 😳

Mindhunter lead actor Johnathan Groff is agent smith in the new matrix movie. Between true crime channels like this and seeing him again definitely help me cope lol

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@@exiledone69 It’s a tragedy. But it’s true. Another covid casualty…

No, but It did re-affirm my resolve to NEVER EVER talk to the police! I respond like that normally, when not guilty of anything...

Yeah, I feel really bad for her. It made me think of my grandma and how it would destroy her if any of her grandkids did something even CLOSE to this terrible. Nobody should ever have to be involved in any way with something this awful.

now you say it i can hear it clearly got some good ears on ya

I can’t imagine being told “everything’s going to be okay” after THIS

@@Nemesis9K people don't know what to say. what are you supposed to say to comfort someone in this situation.
people say it is going to be okay to try and calm someone down without fully understanding that it often creates the opposite effect.

Right. Ugh that poor family

Yeah, especially the well known link to killers that avused animals that stepped up to the human level

Absolutely, I agree. With most psychopaths like this who go on to become serial killers (and this girl had the potential to be a serial killer if she wasn't so messed up) they start off by inflicting cruetly on or killing animals, then progress onto humans.. and you can see that pattern with this girl.. holes start appearing in the woods and she's burying animals, then she's having fun watching her twin brothers get electrocuted, and finally it progresses to a brutal killing of a helpless child and she actually enjoyed it and got a high from it, rather being repulsed, shocked and sickened by it as most normal people would. All the classic signs were there that this girl was very disturbed and a ticking time bomb.

Omg 😳 how crazy is she 😳

Absolutely! Most all potential killers find enjoyment in killing animals before finally moving to killing humans. It’s psychologically proven and most all of them claim to love animals!

Agree. She was prepping for humans.

Yeah but you can't critique women anymore because it's hate or misogyny

@@bhumibolrushing7830 it’s a shame some people think that way. We cannot have equality among the sexes if we refuse to hold women accountable

@@bhumibolrushing7830 Yes you can, but you can't just do it because you want to. They actually have to be wrong for you to do it.

​@@beeleyIt is a very small minority of people who think that way. I have seen so many people criticising this woman, both men and women, because she did poorly at her job and butted in when unnecessary

​@@bhumibolrushing7830You are just making problems up so you can be upset about them. So many people are criticising this woman and rightfully so. No one excuses her actions from what I've seen. You're literally just making shit up so you can be mad at feminists or whatever for something that you say is happening.

Really, you went through all the thousands of comments on this video, just to establish that no one mentioned this? Everyone needs a hobby, I guess.
Yeah, I know I'm being an asshole, but I'm getting really sick of comments like this on every video.

@@wasneeplusYou need to chill out. She’s probably just sad no one is really worried about Emma compared to the victim and killer and they’re right. Obviously it’s gonna be more about the victim and the killer but I get what they’re saying. It made me think jus sayin.

@@kiwibirdie7585 I feel totally zen, my friend. In any case, the substance of her comment wasn't the issue. It this "everyone is talking about this, but I noticed that" style of comment which just irks me. I see it under every popular video, and it strikes me as an underhanded humble brag to point out how different you are from other people.
And no, it's not important. But neither is responding to my comment, and yet here we are.

@@wasneeplus another annoying type of comment is the "Can we just appreciate..." type of comment that you see in every video.

​@@wasneeplusTrue, this is an old case. There are so many comments that are talking about how traumatic it must have been for Emma. But I think this person just wanted to feel "different" by making their own reality in order to validate such a silly comment "Anyone out there?" after all this time (the case is from 2009), just seems strange.

Exactly! I hope she can get the training that she needs because she was shocking to watch.

Maybe she was truly disgusted and said screw it. 🤣 look tell them what happened or I’ll!!! She forgot what her job was that’s what happened. Whose side do you go on in this situation. He’ll someone obviously needed to ask Grams if she wanted to leave bc that wail 😩 ugh. That poor woman. The fact it was thrown out even tho it’s so clearly the truth. I wish our system wasn’t so complicated. I won’t say she should loose her job bc being human took over. I’m over her ready to slap the truth out the girl 🫣 it was Totally unprofessional tho 😂

I saw the investigator put his hand up, trying to stop her at one point. He really should have taken her into the hall for a chat.

I thought the same thing

Can I have the timestamp?

I have known 3 people that were prescribed Prozac...all 3 died within a year...that stuff is a big problem!

I was looking for others to realize that, how idiotic this woman was, she should have been kicked out.

Hopefully she isn't an advocate any more

@@martenkrueger8647 3 people! Wow! Millions of people take this medication and are helped by it.

@@hairyballing9901 this 💯 avoid it

Yeah, any wrong move and you could be the next right there and then.

Yes, and the officer laughing was so unprofessional

@@emptyness7
That irked me too! Dude thought he was about to get either locked up or murdered by his girlfriend. But then the officer’s laughing like, “It’s just a prank bro.”

Exactly. I felt so bad for him

Not to mention he was just a kid. We forgot how a child's mind work sometimes.

I think it's more simple honestly. Elizabeth wasnt emo, she was fun, she was the opposite of Alyssa and Alyssa said she disliked people like that.

@@kingofgroovenessthats pretty similar to what the original said

I grew up in a turbulent household…. My mom (who was also abused as a child), was physically abusive and emotionally distant and I only saw my father once a year. My mom used to say things like “If you tell anyone about what I say or do, they’ll take you away forever and you’ll get hurt by other people even more.” Though I never murdered any of my friends, I grew up feeling extremely jealous of my friends that had “normal” lives and sometimes I felt happy when bad things happened to them. I don’t feel that way now, but it took a lot of therapy to get to a healthy mental state. The fact that Alyssa also came from a turbulent household (father abused mother, both parents used drugs in front of the kids, father was in prison for stabbing someone, mother abandoned them, etc) as a child should have been reason enough for someone to have gotten her help.

I saw another person with an alternate theory that Elizabeth was a surrogate for Emma since killing Emma would draw too much unwanted attention from the police, but on the other hand drawing her sister with knife marks clearly showed signs of animosity.
My opinion is that we can fuse both explanations: she found both Emma and Elizabeth enviable "happy-go-lucky" girls, but only one was killable as the investigation would not take her as the primary suspect. She is in jail, didn't work very well.

I was thinking the same. But i also thought it was because she was girly, girly. She said that a few times as if it was disgusting

Fuck the murderers granny my heart goes out to the poor murdered little girls parents!

That part was extremely crushing to watch. I hope the grandma can find peace 🙏

Imagine how she feels regarding Elizabeth’s family and the community. Grandma inadvertently brought evil to their doorstep. Elizabeth may be alive otherwise.
As always, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

I feel deep sadness for grandmother, but she sowed the wind (raising her troubled daughter) and then reaped the whirlwind (trying to fix a more troubled granddaughter).
While individually, these stories are just anecdotal evidence, statistics bear this out to be true. But what are key correlations with criminality? Fatherless homes, poverty, drug abuse around children, being a victim of violence oneself. Seems like the whole list is here.

@@Oooo-bi7bi I’m not sure what conclusions you want us to draw?

I missed that!

Most definitely

she was planning to kill her sister , sisters friend was a 'trial run'

Yup that exactly what I thought

Honestly I thought the same thing when she referred to Elizabeth as "annoying"

So she basically saved her from that situation creating reasons to invalid the confession. I still have to see the end but if the girl manages to get even 1 year less thank to that move it was a good move on her POV (which is to help the client, not the justice system)

Not if the girl is guilty!@@stefanogandino9192

@@stefanogandino9192yeah it’s not good for her career though lmao

good move? all of these rules that you see in the justice system are ultimately for one reason. To make justice easier. Stop glorifying morally corrupt lawyers.@@stefanogandino9192

​@@elynnr You might want to familiarize yourself with what a lawyer does.

At one point did that happen? I missed have missed it somehow.

​@@Solararisa23:00

@@Solararisa Yes , at 22:23 .

The female officer's reply "we're not all like that" genuinely cracked me up! 😂
The fact they could have a little light-herted laugh is truly a nugget of gold in a mountain of shit kinda situation!

@@LRM12o8 EXACTLY !!!!!

Honestly! I tried writing a murder mystery and had to give up because the thought of the amount of work (and guilt from me as a writer) all for definite failure (as the heroes are the detectives) was exhausting and my very smart villain character came to the conclusion that simply upending their life and moving away from the would be victim was much easier (leaving a note reading “God, you’re insufferable” on their door to be a jerk about it)
Tldr: you’re 100% right.

@@Shadow1Yaz smart villain

Fr I also always think that and I don’t get how ppl can actually murder someone and then proceed to lie about it without feeling guilt

weird how you distinguished between a murder suspect and murderer ;)

Or victim or victims family. They never made evil decisions

It's pretty messed up 😢

Grandma raised two generations of losers. Who cares what she has to cope with.

Exactly what i was thinking. Imagine having to live with that baggage. Both families are destroyed by this action. One loses a loved member of the family, another loses a friend and has to shoulder the shame of having raised a child killer. It's not to say that the grandmother has any blame, just that this type of thing follows you around for a long time, whether or not you had anything to do with the murder.

I've done a lot of research into this case and I found it very satisfying that the grandparents refused to hire a lawyer for Alyssa. They flat out refused. She got a court appointed lawyer.

The Grandmother has a "Happy Birthday" post up for Alyssa from Jan 2023. WTF. I get "standing by family" but when your family member MURDERED A CHILD and then wrote it was "AMAZING" in her journal.

Yeah, I was thinking that as well...

💀I was thinking the same thing

People tend to blame themselves for people's deaths as well. Imagine this little girl blaming herself for just bringing a friend over to play. 😔

Honestly Emma is super lucky seems like her sister wanted to kill her too

​@@wolfpriesty13 Elizabeth seemed like a surrogate for her sister because she knew she couldn't kill her; at least not without significant and immediate pressure/blame being put upon her.

@@wolfpriesty13 I was waiting for this comment, clearly that’s what the two holes were for. That’s why she said I just couldn’t do it. She was talking about Emma. {I believe} so sad.

Poor Emma will never trust anybody again.

Just wash it real good

@@Buffalo_billi eww 🤮🤮

@@Buffalo_billi man that's pretty morbid lol

@@kaiya2472 that makes it so much worse but I know you're 100% right lol

I would have puked if I knew a knife that cut my food killed somebody

That's awful, I'm so sorry for you and your family. I can't imagine what you must be going through.

Damn, I feel for you. My heart goes out to you!

Sorry you are going through this. My own brother has deep emotional issues and is subject to sudden rages over minor things.
He was born a good kid, generous and kind but life got to him. I try not to think this way, but someday i may get a call from the cops telling me he did something awful....i know i might be in your shoes someday.

@@dreamsofturtles1828 that's kind of a fucked up mindset. Having anger issues doesn't make you a future murderer

My brother is also a monster and was convicted. It sucks, and I feel you ❤️

right? my heart hurts so much for her and both families. I hope they have been able to heal and find happiness despite all this :(

She may be, as mentioned in the video, a fledgling psychopath; as such, she would be incapable of empathy or remorse. Her crying would be related to the realization of what awaits her.

Yeah as she said "yeah" in response to "did you cut her throat?" grandma cried out "oh my god" and got out the room. That got me 😢

I can agree. I cried for her knowing that she knew her own granddaughter killed someone.

Grandma may have been feeling culpable herself since she raised the parent of Alyssa.

I cried, hearing her pain hurt my heart so bad

She is saying “it’ll never be ok” in response to someone telling her “it’ll be ok”

Especially since the little girl was missing and the entire town was looking for her. I can't imagine how shocked I would be

Yeah and that Alyssa pretends to be sad about grandmas reaction but I can tell she’s annoyed and is like “you can leave” if you’re going to be a drama queen and make this about you grandma! This is my murder interview! Let’s not be selfish and ask how she’s doing “you can leave”

@@edwardbrianna9729 I don’t think she meant it like that. The commentator even states that the girl was aware her grandmother was in pain

Don't do a polygraph. They are bullsh1t

I know right? I'd be terrified because I have a horrible memory

@@beckysloan2414 Ik they ask where were you on this day at this time like how tf am I supposed to know what I did last week I barely remember what I did today 🤣

That’s why you make the lawyer do all the talking. The police may twist something you say as evidence.

I was thinking that the whole time lol

Yea that tells me that the girl is unwell but not a monster. It’s just a tragic situation for everyone

Same, I would be a nervous wreck even being completely innocent. And I definitely couldn’t map out my day with a definite timeline on any given day.

Always remember to get a lawyer as soon as you get called in. Whether you did it or not

At least you know..I was a firm believer that there was nothing that the police could throw at me that I could handle it ..until I found myself confessing to a crime that I DID NOT commit..because it was easier to accept probation than to roll the dice and gamble on a ten year sentence..I choose my freedom ..I already know I can do probation because never got in trouble before and I didn't do anything wrong to began with ..it was harder to fight ..it was easier to just cop out

Right? All I get from this is that neuro divergents are fucked

Innocent ppl do in fact go to jail/prison.

Exactly! Hate seeing parents click from caring parent to defensive psycho-lover. I would be scared of my kid if I found out they murdered a defenseless child!

definitely. i do remember the interview of a paternal grandmother whose family was responsible for the murder of the grandbaby's mother over custody dispute. she was shifty and 'crying' no tears.

I think in large part it's because the grandmother had actually invested a lot in Alyssa she felt betrayed and distraught probably also blaming herself. I imagine after everything she has been through for those kids and probably already blames herself for their parent's failures, she just became overwhelmed and felt helpless. She also seems like a really good-natured person and didn't believe Alyssa could do anything like this which would have become a conflict within herself also, as if she was less good-natured, less 'naive' then maybe she could have known it was possible and stopped her. I'm not saying anyone should expect this to be a possibility within their own family but it's what she was probably thinking after hearing the confession. Just completely overwhelmed.
Additionally, she's kind of 1 extra step removed - being the grandmother, a parent's response might be less severe because their upbringing of the child probably influenced the chance they could do something like this. It stands to reason if your daughter is super fucked up, you might be too.

Denial and anger are often the first 2 stages of grief. I think it's a bit harsh to judge parents for reacting in such a way, tbh. No one wants to believe that someone they love so much can do something so horrible, it's a defense mechanism for a lot of people. Cut them some slack, they're not the one's on trial smh

Im pretty sure most people are not surprised when their family members kill someone because they are like “ya, I can see that”. I don’t know why this Grandma was surprised at all this girl was showing clear signs of depression and clear signs she was capable of hurting herself or others. Did she not look at her MySpace? Not even once?

I was looking for this comment lmaoooo

LOLLL

I know. The way she was casually talking about the rugby stuff despite what was going on was a little strange, given the situation, but I guess maybe she was using that tactic of camaraderie.

@@sweetluvgurl Yeah, she was likely trying to build rapport but that was the job of the investigator not the juvenile advocate. She’s just there to make sure the minors rights aren’t infringed upon to my knowledge. She inserted herself where she didn’t need to be indeed.

Thank you! I had to scroll way to far to find this comment. She needs to be brought up on charges for interfering with a police investigation or fired at the very least. Completely unprofessional. Her job is to make sure the suspects rights weren't violated nothing else, that means sit back and let the actual professionals do their jobs.

@@totallyrealname6376same like why is no one talking about her extreme fuck up

That made me so sad and stressed. I just know she wanted to help but her mistake not only may have affected the way the interrogation was proceeding but it cost a huge piece of evidence.

Truth!!!

LMAOOOO

dont think she liked animals odds are the holes she was digging were for animals she was killing

Perfect punishment make her live without everything she loves forever just like the family of little Elizabeth

Ha ha ha nice

dustin

I'm sorry, but did you watch this video? Did you see the girls room? That grandma must be dumb as hell if she was surprised

maybe she should have watched her granddaughter properly. read her sick diary maybe?

This killer and her family doesn't deserve s**t. No type of sympathy whatsoever.

@@c0mmas Her Grandmother did say she had read parts of the diary, but obviously not recently. Alyssa was seeing a psychiatrist, taking medication and was a good student. Grandma only worked part-time and I don’t know if Grandpa was home, but don’t blame this Grandma. She was doing her best. Alyssa was really good at masking.

@@tweetiebirdism oh right, having a daughter getting pregnant at 15, letting their grandchildren live in a pigsty of a room or letting their eldest grandchild wander outside during late hours to "dig holes". did her best? HA.

Yeah, the channel 'Monsters' is so biased I can't watch them anymore

Cut the dread out. Have cleanliness sir for doo do head sakes!

@@redheat465 I mean with a channel called Monsters it's pretty obvious what you're going to get

@@redheat465 oh, i just found their channel and i think theyre really great. By " bias" do you mean the occasional joke the narrator cracks at the monsters expense? because ive never seen a problem when that happens. they deserve to get roasted. or do you mean something else? interested to know.

@@Swaggerpede I want to know aswell!!!

OH MY GOD I KNOW RIGHT?? why is there EDITS of this freak??

It's probably because of her style and the subculture she belongs to called scene, which was really popular in the 2000s. Some people are just too stupid to fully realize what she did and just enjoy her aesthetic

Most killers that get a lot of media attention have fans.

@@pear_jules4013 i’m aware it’s just so dystopian

Think she was jealous and also mentally unwell

And she did it over and over again 😡

I hope she got fired fr

I keep seeing people talking about what the advocate did wrong, but don't hve the stamina to watch the full video. Can someone explain it to me?

@@VinnytotheK 1:02:35 is the time of the fuck up

@@VinnytotheKdon’t know if you watched it yet but basically she told Alyssa(idk how it’s spelled) to be honest and tell them what happened. This is not okay because she’s supposed to be her advocate and sort of on “her side”, so telling her to be honest can be seen as some sort of coercion of a minor this invalidating the interrogation since it made it possible that Alyssa felt forced to confess

Hahaha

I always thought this too lol like I carry my darkest secrets in the pit in my mind and will die with them never seeing the light of day. and these people write them down in a bright red journal hidden under their bed , written in glitter pens and every page signs off with “well that’s my crazy life diary” with a hand signature lol 😂

I've always had a suspicion people like that do it because part of them hope someone finds it. Like some deep part of her subconscious realized what she did was reprehensible, and that was a bit of self sabotage without her realizing it.

It’s how people especially kids cope when they feel like they have no one to talk to. It’s not abnormal or wrong. (And I know you didn’t say it was). Sometimes it helps to release feelings. You can’t keep things bottled up inside

@@jamess7745 100%. I definitely think that people write stuff down and write out their calls for help in a journal in hope that someone finds it and has a talk with them.. idk. Sometimes you can’t just tell your mom “I want to h*ng myself, I think about different suicide scenarios every day.” Sometimes you just write it down and hope your parents finds it. It’s like reaching out for help but at the same time not doing so at all. My parents have never found my journals from when I had my moments :P But I’m good now

I know... Then the transphobia later when they went after him for using "they" pronouns to describe his girlfriend. Honestly that would jave hit me even harder than the murder

@@bschneidez I’m not so sure about that. The murder is still worse. We’re talking about someone who brutally murdered a child with no remorse. I believe they were trying to figure out if she had any help. The investigators probably thought it was a slip up on his part. Also, it was 2009, you can’t expect them to conform to the social norms of 2022.

Yeah, and somehow the part where he says "I'm scared if I'm going to have more girlfriends like this." really hit me.
Sure, it seems like an almost childish fear when framed next to a murder, but can you imagine how that must affect a growing teen?
"Who can I trust from now? How can I even trust myself to not love another psychopath? Maybe I'm the crazy one for loving a killer and actually I deserve this." etc. I'm sure it messed him up.

@@bschneidez That wasn't transphobia. "They" originally refers to more than one person or thing. Seeing how the boyfriend referred to the suspect as "she" beforehand, it shows that she wasn't acting alone

@@InedibleMuffin He’s going to have major trust issues with future relationships. RIP. Imagine having to say your first girlfriend, (think it was his first) was a killer…yikes.

shut up

I was also an emo kid, i went to school with a lot of rich “preppy” white girls. I was poor, abused, and insanely depressed. The jealousy that spread through everyday was so toxic. (I also want to bring up the fact that i mentioned them being white because i know how that sounds but when our role models are almost always blue eyed, skinny, tall women it does bring an extra level of jealousy/insecurity.) I could see my rage manifesting in harmful ways so I can definitely see why she would take a turn for the worst.

are you literally saying that emo kids have violent tendencies? noted, thanks for the info mate 👍

@@wubstep420 I think they’re just emphasizing the emotional instability of most teenage emo kids, not the violent tendencies. Some people process the anger and jealousy differently.

​@@wubstep420You have the mental capacity of a rock if that's what you understood. Lord.

Ya...that would have pissed me right off.

Him shushing her at 1:07:10 hit me to the core. I get that she was trying to be considerate but I feel for the interrogator who handled this so well just for it all to go up in smoke from her lack of professionalism.

It’s called a “technicality” and it’s TORT.

women…

@@Tobi-ln9xr are you 10?

Yea, watching her become more and more still the closer to the truth it got was eerie and disturbing as heck...

@@Dead25m watch the language. Heck? Really? Kids are reading this!!!

@@Dead25m yea you can almost see the tension in the air with the grandma. Disturbing as “He🏒🏒”

@@Trihard_7 you mean to tell kids don’t know this cursing language. Stfu!

Yeah nothing in her room would have gave her any cause for concern, sounds like a dumb family all the way around

i think she literally had zero idea. i watched the scream killers and the parents seemed to think the kid had something to do with it or had a hunch but this i think grandma genuinely didn’t think she had anything do with it

​@@SashaLandYeah she was just in massive shock. Another video on this channel where family member of killer breaksdown is when father pleads his son to confess after he realizes hes the killer

Thank you.

so what about "armed criminal action" sets that charge apart from the murder charge? it just doesnt make sense to me

@@october_stormz Its usually an extra technical charge to get around lighter sentences, like in this case. It's why you will see 5 or more different charges in a murder case, because the prosecution hedges their bets that even if the state or the judge puts down a light murder charge, for example, they will still get more years tacked on. You see it a lot in cases where a DA wants to make a statement or is in a county or state where murder or any felony charge isn't an automatic life.

Also, even if she can request a parole hearing in X number of years, that doesn't mean she'll GET parole. They will look at cases individually at that point, and particularly violent or awful cases, people usually don't get parole. Like the Manson murderer cultists, they've been asking for parole every chance they get for decades, as far as I know none have been given it.

thanks for the info. ❤

I agree- the advocate was getting on my nerves!!!

It was pretty embarrassing lol 😭

She needs to loose her job

Agreed. She should’ve been told to “Sit there and SHUT UP” before they went into the room.

When he finally got her to admit it was an accident, the advocate immediately said something to the grandmother and you can visibly see the detective get pissed off at her.

i think she may have called her sister annoying and not elizabeth, i may have misunderstood tho

@@insertnameher31 you are right, she says “I was supposed to take my little sister with me, but I ditched her because she’s annoying”
Although she does also call the little girl annoying to when asked about her

@@insertnameher31 they asked her if she knew her and what was she like, she mentioned she was very girly and annoying.

@@insertnameher31 she calls both of them annoying. What disgusted me is when he asked what Elizabeth was like she said girly and annoying like the comment above me stated

Evil, or stupid as well.

I hope the grandmother doesnt blame herself for this.

Grandmas pain here is the hardest part for me.

Grandmother needs to stay out of the room.

Stuff like that always makes me laugh

@@pablostrongarm1490 bruh what.

How was her appearance
I think she will never free

Elizabeth’s mom get 9% of any of Alyssa’s financial income until it reaches 5 millions

Wow! Jaaayzuz H christ that is so fck up!

Interestingly enough, Missouri has a law that if you have a source of income or any assets, they will seize those items to pay for you incarceration. I don't know if it applies to money on your books.

I really hope one day someone out there will seeks for justice for Elizabeth and her family since the system just let monsters like this one be out in public again. People can not imagine how many kids out there try to copycat this girl and think of it as being so entertaining taking away someone else’s lives 😢

@@asddfasdqwe7389 You can't be a sociopath and do what an interrogator does. You would have to be a psychopath if anything.

literally was thinking this

@@libertasautmors8995 that's not even remotely true. Law enforcement have to be psychologically evaluated and cleared of any pathological traits before they can even enter the profession. Promotion to interrogator happens through additional training and experience. I'm a psychologist married to a LEO.

@@libertasautmors8995 Yeah and they also have to do ALL the drugs to REALLY know what they feel like too. XD

A law enforcement officer who makes mistakes on this type of interrogation is ultimately removed from that kind of procedure. It is the survival of the fittest, one wouldn't let someone unprofessional interrogate a young girl in a child murder case like that.

If only she had the foresight to recognize how badly this action would screw things up for the people she DOES care about... She can't have become neutrotypical & might not have become a great person, but she could have hopefully adapted to society as she grew up. And Elizabeth could have grown up period. 🫤

@@ZijnShayatanica Agreed. But I haven't seen one comment about the 8 yrs of instability, trauma & abuse she suffered before the grandparents rescued the kids from the wastes of oxygen that were their parents. This kid, neurotypical or not, is 10 years away from an even remotely mature frontal cortex, the point at which impulsivity decreases, foresight increases, executive function matures. Those 8 yrs were pivotal, critical in the development of who she became. Not saying Alyssa is blameless, but I'm positive that part of the grandmother's anguish is over the grave consequences of her own daughters neglect & abuse of her granddaughter. Tragic, any way you look at it.

She isn't crying.

for a psych0path it is at least something

​@@taraemcintyre I do understand, I hope everyone does but I'm not so sure... I hope that everyone is aware of the role of environment and also the ancestral baggage. It carries on, like for example: if you had alcoholics in your family, you have the predisposition to drink too. Alcohol might have been there environmentally speaking, but it's there genetically too. However, you have free will, the option to CONSCIOUSLY avoid those risk factors and there's a possibility those predispositions don't evolve into realities in your own life at all. And also, I'm not a mother myself but I feel the weight and responsibility a mother bears while pregnant. How influential, important her state and lifestyle are during all those weeks and months.

Why am I surprised? These losers have praised Ted Bundy and the Columbine shooters just because.

to be fair tho you can simultaneously feel remorseful for your actions because you got caught. it may not wholly register what you did was wrong until you get reprimanded for it. especially considering shes not a kid but a teenager.
assuming you were like under 10 during this gum incident, ordinarily kids dont fully understand remorse the same way older people do. so you get embarrassed when called out for bad behaviour.
if anything she probably feels sorry for her family having to learn the truth like this. she seemed like she genuinely cares about her grandma so probably feels bad that theyre gonna suffer for this too.

What kinda gum was it?

@@peaches15 Juicy Fruit. I've hated it ever since.

Does your sister still talk to you. Cause I wouldn't 😂 and have u ever bought her a new gum?

You said "i was only crying because i got caught" Wich is remorseless, and then you proceed to say "it's all about getting caught" I'm trying to figure out if you have similar mental conditions or are trying to be positive?

Exactly! I was thinking that also. I’m you pointed it out

It's crazy how investigators most of the time can point out the evil or how I call it a demon taking over their life ( not possession ) But they let the negativity of this world or events in their life take over them, which like this guy said a traumatic experience in their life most likely from childhood. Sadly this girl was gone ( or consumed by evil ) as early as 7 or 8 years old her grandma was too late to save her even though she tried her best and her dad. Luckily her grandma was able to save alyssas younger brothers and her sister.

@@missflissen not exactly.

i was literally looking for a comment like this to make sure i wasn’t over analyzing

@@missflissen nope

I’m not sure about this

Anyone know her name? Wonder if she still works there

She's dumb plain and simple. She knew better and did it anyway. She definitely lost her job.

She also interrupted to talk to the grandma, an outside factor like that could make the suspect close up. You never want any distractions once you break through their defense

yeah that was inappropriate

It was so obvious too, like she just couldnt stand to have the attention not be on her or wanted to be like hey I have power too in front of the girl. Then she is all with the grandma like that is NOT your job, your job was to be an advocate to the girl not act like a freaking hospice nurse. I cant fathom any reason shed do this other than ego and attention.

Maybe it wasn’t remorse, maybe she was just crying feeling sorry for herself getting caught.

@@BLAZENYCBLACKOPS it for sure was. It was so blatantly fake remorse for what she had done. She was just upset that she got caught she thought she would get away with it.

This girl (woman by now) is incredibly dangerous. Would they have even found Elizabeth if it weren't for the diary entry? At 15, she was clearly a convincing liar and showed absolutely no remorse when asked to consider Elizabeth's family. She enjoyed what she did after planning everything. Strangulation is one of the most intimate ways to kill someone because it takes long minutes to kill the person, and she was so casual when she said she did it from the front, meaning she watched Elizabeth die slowly. Who watching this truly thinks that she is going to be reformed into a different person when she is going to be released? My guess is that she will not be keeping a diary after this. I also don't think she acted alone. Her boyfriend also knows something since he said 'they' during his interrogation.

I'm thinking seeing her grandmother cry may have made her cry. I cried when I saw my grandparents cry.

​​@@janellcrews6108 agreed. What really broke Alyssa was to see and hear what her actions had done to her Grandma. I think she knew in that moment, she was a horrible person. As horrible as she was... I hope today she's changed and found some measure of peace and forgiveness in God's eyes

They study people for decades for these moments .

David Rice is a great guy. He was on my husband’s SWAT team in Troop F.

I will never understand why guitly people don't just use their right for a lawyer, do they want to feel smart by thinking they can get away with it themselves? Idk

@@jules6596 yes most of them believe they can outsmart the cops with lying. or they don’t want to appear guilty by asking for a lawyer

@@jules6596 They think they are much smarter than they are. Most of the time, the only reason they committed murder is that they believe they will get away with it.
It's probably the dunning kruger effect as well. They are likely unaware of police interrogation techniques and think that they can just lie like they usually do

"It will never be okay," hearing the way she cried that out had my heart drop. That was an infinitely more genuinely display of emotion than anything Alyssa did in her entire interrogation.

Despite all the awful stuff I’ve seen, this video has to be the most raw and heart dropping video I’ve ever watched. When she confessed to that, she ruined so many lives, her grandmas, siblings, the little girls family, everyone’s. I’ve never seen so many lives ruined at once..

Well said its effect so many people life to change forever.

She probably clutched all straws she could get, which may have allowed to construct a somewhat redeemable scenario. Her "yeah" extinguished that faint glimmer of hope for good.

My heart dropped and hurt as soon as her grandmother screamed like that. God I couldn't imagine 🙏

I bet he had something to say to her afterwards though.

Wow. That is awful. She was doing too Much

@@chittalkstudio she's there for the juvenile's welfare...nothing else. That detective was giving her so many signals to just shut up. I think he should have stopped the proceedings, taken her out of the room, explained why she was there and then gone back into the room.

She probably wasn't that experienced in handling murder cases. It was such a pathetic error though.

wait why was it thrown out?? cuz she talked too much?

i had so much anxiety watching this it gave me a headache!😅 I was like oooo this is getting intense I had to pause at some moments. Nonetheless I watched the whole 2 hours and it was worth it!

@@blackperson4433 yeah me too. I watched this yesterday and my heart was beating so fast all the time as if I was in her place or something. The tension is insane. I had to pause for a few seconds sometimes too

Because shes a psychopath, she has no emotions

Externally, she was cool.
Internally she was shitting so many bricks that you couldn't even begin to imagine the size of the house she was about to build.

Same!!! I think this is how we know we aren't psychopaths? I hope. XD

It didn’t stop them from getting a conviction. If it had, I’d be more angry but I’d be okay with her be fired or removed from that position as she’s clearly not qualified. Which I’m pretty sure she was so.

Correct. She should know her place and do HER job, embarrassing that she threw the confession due to her thinking she's a detective.

@@shianne7866 Bet she never makes that mistake again if she still has her job.

I learned something there - not sure how her questioning was different from Rice's, enough to get the interview inadmissible, but if that counselor has been on the job for 12 years she should know the ropes.

Because she is suppose to protect the child and to be their advocate, not help the interrogator get a confession.
She works for the courthouse not the police department.

@@lopiecart 12 years? Didnt the narrator say she was new at her job when she made that "CRITICAL ERROR"?

Look at the girls room she was an undisciplined little fk who was probably taking advantage of her over loving grandparents.

@@faceripper77 if you're talking about her room being messy that's very normal for teenagers. If you're talking about the notes on her wall then yes their were signs.

@@chickadee39 theres messy and then theres her room. It comes down to mental issues and lack of discipline from the grandparents. They let her do whatever she wanted.

I highly doubt she feels remorse for murder as well.

@@faceripper77 Sometimes, parents truly can’t help what their kids do. I used to be super judgmental of other parents because I had a few kids myself who were very well behaved and have great big hearts. However, I then had my youngest. She’s extremely difficult and no matter how much I try to help her in disciplining her and every other way imaginable, nothing works. She gets worse and worse. It puts a great big strain on all of us in our household. It’s so hard to see my kids who are so good suffer because of it.
I respect your opinion. I just personally feel occasionally it is not the parents(or grandparents in this case)fault. It is sometimes a mental health issue or in this girls case, her pathetic parents likely are the ones who messed her up. Not the grandparents. She was too far gone by the time they got to her. It is said a child’s personality is formed by the age of 5 I believe?

A former girlfriend of mine was put on that medication. She knifed me 5 times (superficially) 2 weeks later.

😮

My sister was on prozac as a teen. We were staying on a pullout couch bed at grandmas and she was touching my face while sleeping. I slept on the air mattress after that. Starbucks level caffeine with prozac made her crazy.
I really wish the show would talk about the controversy of giving teens powerful ssris and how it could have effected her behavior. I feel as though it was brushed aside and added in at the last minute.

I was put on Prozac when I was a teen and things like those never occurred to me

I’ve been on Prozac since I was 21 and Prozac doesn’t make ppl crazy, it’s not the Prozac

It was her sisters best friend so a replacement is probably right. She called her sister annoying so maybe went for her instead of her sister? I don’t get the other hole though was she planning on killing someone else?

She called Elizabeth annoying too.

especially when she said her sister was annoying then described elizabeth as annoying too

@@Sarah-m17 I know that they believe that the graves may have been dug for her brothers but my immediate thought was that her plan was to kill her sister and her sister’s friend

I think the two holes were for Elizabeth and her sister 😕

I thought the very same thing.

She said they both annoying

Or planning to kill her boyfriend since he knew too much

I agree, they said she had that weird drawing on her wall with the wr*st c*t and her sisters name next to it. I think she just saw two little girls who are friends and thought they were perfect targets

I think it's entirely possible she dug the first hole, realized its not a good enough spot and went to dig another one. If I remember correctly thats almost exactly what she said. So even though its totally possible she was planning to kill more than one person I would believe THAT part of her story at face value

I came here to comment on that. The detective couldn’t hold his laugh in they probably talked about it in the office for weeks

I just commented cuz I got done chuckling at that part too.
"We're not all that bad!" Says the lady in the room. Haha! Humans are such funny creatures!

i know, that stood out to me too. Made me think “awe”.

Didn't realize, thx for pointing out another lvl of shock

lol same that part got me pretty good. poor kid.

I was fine, and it made me burst out in sudden tears... so heartbreaking.

Good job we don’t hear it too often either.

@@heatherbrooks7479 she gave her second chance with hope for bright future and everything fall like castle of broken glass.This killer girl deserves to rotten in the prison.

Made me cry. And I am a tough old woman.

So sad, but how in gods name did this distraught grandma not see the drawings on the walls in her room?

I absolutely think ur right and that’s shocking

I thought similarly, that she wanted to kill Elizabeth and her sister Emma, that she could lure the former to the woods with the latter, and kill them both. But perhaps the logistics of controlling 2 people before killing them was too much and could throw off her plan or get her caught, or maybe she didn't want to cause her grandparents to suffer (since psychopaths want to maintain their mask or illusion of self with their loved ones: in this case, good in school, lots of friends, happy, in short, "normal"; this also explains Alyssa inviting her grandmother to leave before her own breakdown), how would she be able to explain the deaths of both girls?
In any case, from what I gleaned from this, Alyssa had a lot of rage towards Elizabeth. Elizabeth lived with her parent(s), who loved and cared for her (no playing outside after dark!), worries about her; she was a girly girl, innocent. I don't think Alyssa even actively considered this, which is why she couldn't tell investigators her motive. Was it a thrill kill? Yes, certainly, but that doesn't mean there wasn't any meaning behind who she chose as a victim.

I think she planned to kill Emma and Elizabeth, hence the two holes.

When youre hungry u get a desire to hunt your violent desires begun to rise to prepare you for the struggle of the hunt once you have killed a pray ur natural instinct is to feel joy because you will feed. Its ingraned within us after millions of years of evolution. The girl was given medication. She was having mental issues. How do psychiatrist seek to resolve mental issues? They give medication. What is medication? It is component that consists of a molecules that influnce your state of mind. Why did i bring hunger into this? Because when you dont feed correctly your body cannot manufacture in ur gut the appropriate nuerotransmitters (one example in this case seretonin) to produce the appropriate state of mind. And therefore supress your desire to hunt or do undesirable behavior. In the absence of these neurotransmitters other signalling occur and that will produce a behavior that will help you aquire the precursor to manufaturing of the essential nuerotransmitters. This behavior is violent because violence will result in your ability to hunt and obtain food ie resources for your body. I have taken synthetic version of naturally produced nuerotransmitters which suppressed all negative thoughts and results in an extrordinary amount of positivity. So i understand the importance of the molecules and power they hold over your state of mind and how to aquire them through the manufaturing of them in ur gut. This also overrides previous experiences which to some degree can be dangerous because you ignore any evidence or possibility of danger other may cause becuase of the overwhelming positve state of mind. This leads you to be too understanding and forgiving of others undesirable behavior. A balance is necessary of darkness and light.

@@016632 this guy... "Producing neurotransmitters in your gut". Know what "neuro" means, Buddy?

lol thank you. i couldnt hear anything but "shell never be a parent"

I have no love loss for this girl, everything she did was a choice. I came from a home like she did, I was diagnosed with bi-polar/manic depressive w/anxiety and PTSD and even though I understand why she is the way she is, she chose that way and will never fully have to experience the level of pain the others went through which is sad...

She’s likely the one who contributed to how her kids turned out anyway, and then failed to get her granddaughter help. So, it’s like take at least a little accountability there, grandma.

@@sweetluvgurlquit making assumptions. If you’re gonna say that, then why stop with the grandmother? It was ACTUALLY the grandmothers parents fault for how they raised the grandmother. See how pointless this is? It can go on forever and does nothing but give YOU a new detail to fetishize.

Oh shit I feel so terrible😔😔

a persons childhood is no excuse for hurting another

Still doesn’t mean you get too murder a 9 year old, she lost all empathy when she did that.

A bad childhood is maybe a reason, but not an excuse.

By the way she was behaving, I thought she was another detective

The detective even had to put his hand out at one point to ask her, subtly, to shut the hell up. Getting that confession thrown out in court due to her conduct is a serious mistake that might have had pretty serious consequences with regards to her career.

He seemed scared of someone finding out he helped her kill a kid or hide a body, to me.

@@bluedragonfly8139 cool

In fairness she wanted the truth for the murder victim.

They could've asked him if the sky was blue and it could've come out as a lie.

@@MM-oe6bd exactly. Thats true. That's why any lawyer would advise to not ever consent to taking a polygraph test.

“Nervous has got nothing to do with it” I was screaming “isn’t that what it’s ALL ABOUT THO????!!!” Like his heart rate is up for a reason, you’re being implicated in a girls murder, you’re gonna be nervous ??? And it looked like they were talking in the darkest smallest room ever I’d be terrified

100% correct. It bothers me that its presented any other way. During this particular one the narr. was talking about intimidation literally as the det on screen is standing over the kid. polygraph is ridiculous.

@@thepolitecanadian117 I know right? I was thinking the exact same thing. The detective was being the literal definition of "intimidating". Then telling the kid that "nervous has nothing to do with it"..which didn't make any sense at all since a polygraph test is supposed to measure physiological responses to questions that might, in theory, make a guilty person "nervous". I felt awful for the kid having to go thru all that.

That’s what I thought. Especially with the drawings in her room and also Elizabeth being more similar to her sister than her brothers. So whatever the motive of why she chose Elizabeth would probably go along with why she would pick her sister

@@archeranaxolotlElizabeth was a more “convenient” kill. Getting to her sister Emma would have been significantly hardly. Lord knows she harboured extremely negative feelings toward Emma

Bro just used the hard d like we wouldn't notice

Umm she was 6 years old. Why the hell would she blame herself

@@AJice1980 I mean 6 yr old would still feel guilt even if they didn’t do it

@@AJice1980 well , a neighbor u played with frequently is gone forever and your sister killed her the same day u last met.... I duno man you tell me if that would haunt her for life

@@Sakkaz There is absolutely no reason a person who was 6 years old would or should feel any type of guilt. Are you kidding me? A 6 year old has a hard time even comprehending that death is permanent. Now that she's older if she feels any guilt it's on her. I'm sure she knows if it didn't happen that day it was going to happen tomorrow or the next day. There's a lot of situations in life where people unknowingly or unintentionally caused the death of another person and felt like it was their fault. But in no way should she feel at fault for something that happened when she was 6 years old.

@@AJice1980 mk.

i feel like jcs was the script writer actually 😆

KRplus is really damaging JCS's channel these days idk why.. keeps deleting videos and stuff

Absolutely! Both are internet Gold! Found this channel yesterday and can't stop watching it!

What do u people keep mentioning jcs - i searched for it there were like all 4 very old and dull videos. Probably i got a wrong one

@@tarekmegahed1423 ah, maybe this is why there were no videos worth watching there

i giggled when i heard this.

Well she won't be bored. Hope she's having fun.

Would chuckle again

Went right over my head

facts

Exactly. I'm sick of people saying, "because of her traumatic childhood it's understandable",
there are people that had it way worse than this girl, yet they don't turn into violent murders... smh

yeah, like it gives an explanation but it doesn't excuse it

@@unusiplier5288 people need to learn the difference between "explanation" and "justification"

honestly most of them haven't. i'm sure almost every single murderer, of which there are many, had absolutely atrocious childhoods

Ive had a horrible childhood and the only person I want to kill is myself lol