17. Carthage - Empire of the Phoenicians

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  • 게시일 2023. 04. 10.
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    Buried beneath the city streets of the Tunisian capital of Tunis, an ancient city lies forgotten...
    In this episode, we look at one of the most dramatic stories to come down to us from the ancient world: the rise and fall of the empire of Carthage. Find out how this city rose out of the Phoenician states of the Eastern Mediterranean, and set out on voyages of discovery and settlement that put them at the centre of the ancient world. And hear how the city of Carthage was destroyed, and its memory nearly wiped from the earth.
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    Credits:
    Written and produced by Paul Cooper
    Sound engineering by Alexey Sibikin
    Original music by Pavlos Kapralos: / @pavloskapralos3969
    Sass Hoory: percussion
    Lelu Blesa: vocals
    Anastasia Papadopoulou: vocals
    June Filetti: oboe
    Pavlos Kapralos: oud, vocals, flutes, instrument sampling and editing
    Voice actors:
    Michael Hajiantonis
    Lachlan Lucas
    Alexandra Boulton
    Simon Jackson
    Tom Marshall-Lee
    Chris Harvey
    Nick Denton
    Paul Casselle
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  • @AbominableBigfoot
    @AbominableBigfoot 년 전 +3152

    Everybody shut up Fall of Civilizations dropped a new video

  • @rembson
    @rembson 년 전 +696

    Never move away from these "too" long formats. It is pure gold to get to have presentations of these ancient civs where one lets the subject matter dictate how much to cover and how long a time is given to it.
    Very much appreciated.

    • @CtrlAltDlt68
      @CtrlAltDlt68 년 전 +25

      The ideal length of a history podcast is "Dan Carlin" length, meaning there isn't a max length where you should cap it.

    • @patrickirwin3662
      @patrickirwin3662 년 전 +11

      ditto

    • @Witnessdomaining
      @Witnessdomaining 년 전 +10

      The best medicine against my tinnitus!

    • @shulamiteKINGSbride
      @shulamiteKINGSbride 년 전 +3

    • @deanchambers8613
      @deanchambers8613 년 전 +11

      This format is like half podcast series & half sound movie! & of course once the video comes out it will be even better.

  • @phoebehill953
    @phoebehill953 년 전 +58

    Some of the happiest evenings of my life have been spent falling asleep to this podcast.

  • @kkdesignservices183
    @kkdesignservices183 년 전 +469

    The musical theme just gets you in the pit of your stomach. It's difficult to describe, but captures a sense of dread, of lost time, of inevitability.

    • @jr8260
      @jr8260 년 전 +43

      If you're referring to the opening piano theme after the intro, then I totally agree. It's pretty simplistic but it captures the emotions of what you described so well.

    • @kkdesignservices183
      @kkdesignservices183 년 전 +18

      @@jr8260 Yes, the piano piece of chords.

    • @paulm749
      @paulm749 년 전 +23

      - and of deep sadness.

    • @karakerley4230
      @karakerley4230 년 전 +29

      I think I like the way it climbs and peaks, like a civilization I suppose, but you know that first heavy note is coming back. It really does set the whole tone of the program. Somehow the intro was a serious hook for me when I first started listening. The way the narrator starts from an outside perspective before the theme and intro begin. This series is a masterpiece for sure.

    • @pectenmaximus231
      @pectenmaximus231 년 전 +23

      I am glad you said this. I’m glad other people feel this way too. In my experience, it’s among the most fitting pieces of music ever meant to create atmosphere. I could try to fit words to the emotions it conjures for some time, but I think it suffices to say I find those few bars of piano playing in the corners of my mind regularly.

  • @hannahbrown2728
    @hannahbrown2728 년 전 +98

    Im a simple girl, when I see a Fall of Civilizations video, I drop everything and watch it in one sitting. Looking forward to the next release with added visual context!

    • @jalight27
      @jalight27 년 전 +6

      Absolutely. I love listening then listening while falling asleep, then later watching with visuals. Just like with philosophy videos, I always gain something new from it ❤

  • @tyjandrews
    @tyjandrews 년 전 +154

    Legit got goosebumps seeing this! I'm excited you picked Phoenicians because I have some proud friends from modern Lebanon 🇱🇧 It's difficult to describe how much this millennia-old history still affects current, global affairs.

    • @MiguelFlores-pg8fi
      @MiguelFlores-pg8fi 년 전 +12

      Felt the same goosebumps when i saw this

    • @90skidcultist
      @90skidcultist 년 전 +1

      Are they "proud" of accidental birth, other man's work, or their own hard-worked grandeur?

    • @davidbenyahuda5190
      @davidbenyahuda5190 년 전

      Perhaps some of us are unaware that so-called non-black people have no history. I can assure you that as historian who has studied history from primary sources available to serious academics that Black people are the only people who have a history. What has been hidden from view by white supremacists and their cousins is the fact that nonBlack people have stolen everything they have from a particular group of Black people. We can see this being played out even today. nonBlack people steal from Israelites and claim we have no culture. See Anacalypsis by G Higgins.👊🏿🕎⚔️🏹🌽🪶

    • @thomashauer6804
      @thomashauer6804 년 전

      did they go sacriice on kids or not..

    • @bigsmookgrovestreet2703
      @bigsmookgrovestreet2703 년 전 +1

      First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon. Some history is false and distorted, and history is very deep. First, where is Carthage located? It is located in Tunisia, and that Hannibal was born in Carthage and fought in the name of Carthage, not Phoenician, and had nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal the ruler of Lebanon until he was a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, they were local citizens because they were in their original homeland. Was Hannibal the ruler of Carthage, and where was Carthage in Lebanon, for example? No, in Tunisia and Carthage, it is Tunisia, and Alissa did not found Carthage. It is just a legend, and the evidence is because researchers did not find it or its inscriptions. It has a Phoenician influence because they occupied it only, and the occupation of what age has become history. In the end, Carthage has nothing to do with the Phoenicians, and that the Romans and the Greeks created myths to discredit the Empire of Carthage because it had enmity with them, and that Herodotus, the Greek historian, never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he never mentioned that the Phoenicians They settled in Carthage, and the researchers also did not find Phoenician traces and genes. They found Roman traces, but Phoenician ones they did not find, which means that they do not exist.

  • @river20222
    @river20222 년 전 +76

    Best historian teller of our lifetime, hands down. Someone give this man a movie deal.

  • @Eamonshort1
    @Eamonshort1 년 전 +283

    Man your stuff always staggers me. My University thesis took months of research and writing to put together and was like 25 minutes. How you make these hours long, engaging podcasts is an absolute testament to your passion for history

    • @TheChesireKat
      @TheChesireKat 년 전 +24

      i'm beyond impressed with the research that's gone into this. probably more than i did for my masters degree. and that took me a year to accomplish. his work is insanely on a high academic level but presented so anyone could learn from it!

    • @simpleman7516
      @simpleman7516 년 전 +8

      Chatgpt dude

    • @Sean12248
      @Sean12248 년 전 +3

      @@simpleman7516 rofl.

    • @Ronnet
      @Ronnet 년 전 +26

      ​@@simpleman7516 "write me a 3,5 hour historically accurate epic on the rise and fall of Carthage. Oh and give it an eerie and foreboding vibe."
      If only Hollywood knew this secret.

    • @brucehilton1662
      @brucehilton1662 11 개월 전 +11

      It has been stated that if Carthage had defeated Rome, the consequences for western civilization would have been catastrophic. I certainly am not so sure about that counterfactual thinking. Interesting to think about though.

  • @MrMrUSMC
    @MrMrUSMC 년 전 +432

    I really love that detail about a macaque skull being found in Ireland. It's very easy to imagine the people of the ancient world as being cloistered and shut off compared to our own modern interconnectedness, but there was always stuff like this happening. Somewhere, twenty five hundred years ago, an Irish guy came home from a trip to the market with a monkey in tow and probably the biggest smile on his face.

    • @jamiemcintosh3030
      @jamiemcintosh3030 년 전 +34

      And the people in his village staring and crowding round, asking "What's that?"

    • @loslobos786
      @loslobos786 년 전 +11

      People always traveled unfortunately they didn't have Facebook to brag about their travels and thousands of years of times depredation is hell on papyrus.

    • @jimmyjasi-
      @jimmyjasi- 년 전 +8

      Kato was probably lying about supposed boom of Carthage just as Hernán Cortez lied about the size of half starved Tlaxcalan Republic in comparing it to Granada. There could indeed have been a demographic boom in Carthage in her last decades as she had to accommodate both back settlers from lost colonies and as sociology in all ages shows low quality of living causes people to have more children unless there's starvation beyond measure underway.
      We don't know the costs by which Carthaginians payed Romans reparations... maybe through debt to Tyre and Sidon? Or maybe by melting some gold from their temples?

    • @jimmyjasi-
      @jimmyjasi- 년 전 +2

      ,💓Well yeah. I agree. Both David Reich and more recently Carlos Lalueza-Fox have written wonderful popsci books on how globalization has always been a part of human story

    • @ian_b
      @ian_b 년 전 +10

      "Some guy tried to sell me some magic beans, but I got this monkey instead. Result!"

  • @eddaniels4731
    @eddaniels4731 년 전 +74

    I was literally just thinking "shouldn't be too long before a new fall of civs", and as if by magic here's a new episode, very much looking forward to giving it a listen

    • @jojojacques810
      @jojojacques810 년 전 +1

      Wooohooooo!!! Ahhhhh!!!! ❤

    • @kyleadelaide
      @kyleadelaide 년 전 +3

      I was thinking that a few days ago

    • @theduckcompany
      @theduckcompany 년 전

      Honestly they could have milked this story for 2 episodes the Phoenicians and then the Carthaginians.

  • @kingietk
    @kingietk 2 개월 전 +7

    This is the best history channel on KRplus

  • @assyledhifi
    @assyledhifi 년 전 +85

    Awesome. Amazing. Stunning. There's no words to describe how much i enjoyed hearing this masterpiece... I am tunisian living in Tunis, hearing it during my commute to work on the same places some of the events were happening, looking at the hills of carthage in front of my eyes. A thousand thanks, and it's not sufficient...

    • @FallofCivilizations
      @FallofCivilizations  년 전 +15

      Thanks Assyl, that means a lot to hear you say.

    • @futuf2265
      @futuf2265 년 전 +2

      That's so cool! Is the city taking care of its ancient ruins?

    • @dewrt2874
      @dewrt2874 년 전 +2

      ​@@futuf2265 Yes

    • @dewrt2874
      @dewrt2874 년 전 +7

      ​@@FallofCivilizationsFun fact: Gustav Flaubert built his House on the Ancient ruines of the carthagnian harbor in Tunis

    • @bigsmookgrovestreet2703
      @bigsmookgrovestreet2703 년 전

      First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon, some history is false and distorted, and that history is facts and very deep. First, Carthage, where is it located? The answer is in Tunisia, and that Hannibal is a Tunisian, a Carthaginian, born in Carthage, not a Phoenician, and has nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal a ruler in Lebanon until he became a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans with his armies, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, and were the people in their era Phoenicians?? The answer is no, why not? Because in their original homeland Tunisia is Berber located in North Africa and not Phoenician and historians agreed that Alissa is a legend even in Phoenician sources as a legend and the researchers did not find her and did not find her inscriptions and the inscriptions are an important source to prove history and they did not find her mosaics and a new study says that the researchers did not find a trace They did not find Phoenician artifacts, but they also found only Roman and Phoenician artifacts that were not found at all, and the historian Herodotus never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he did not mention that the Phoenicians settled in Carthage, and that the Phoenician language was originally not Phoenician, but rather Hebrew and was used in the Torah before They are used by the Phoenicians, and that the Phoenicians want to attribute Carthage to them and steal our great history. I, Carthage, originally had no relationship at all historically with the Phoenicians. Truth appeared and falsehoo

  • @stephenbecker5936
    @stephenbecker5936 년 전 +168

    I'm having a stressful day at work and this just made everything better. Thank you for your incredible work.

    • @FallofCivilizations
      @FallofCivilizations  년 전 +23

      Thanks Stephen, hope it gets better!

    • @SofaKingShit
      @SofaKingShit 년 전 +12

      Perhaps it will be better when our civilization falls and we get to chill out and hunt and gather. Only half joking.

    • @veronikalynn5084
      @veronikalynn5084 년 전 +5

      @@SofaKingShit ha thank you for the laugh, I half agree!

    • @gyllenspetzfamily7993
      @gyllenspetzfamily7993 년 전 +2

      ​​@@SofaKingShit if our civ falls say hello to cholera, bubonic plague, a short life and say goodbye to supermarkets, new ready made clothes, having a full belly in spring and living with out walls. We must not allow this, we must love our neighbors.

    • @CtrlAltDlt68
      @CtrlAltDlt68 년 전 +1

      "I'm stressed out...what's this? A long podcast about genocide? This should be relaxing." It's alright man I feel you haha.

  • @seancalder8858
    @seancalder8858 년 전 +198

    Mate I am absolutely thrilled to find this new episode in an absolutely marvellous series. I can't even begin to count the number of times I've enjoyed your programs and podcasts listening over and over again. To me, you are the "Attenborough" of ancient history and you have taught me so much about ancient cultures from around the world. Thank you.

    • @TheDeliciousLegacy
      @TheDeliciousLegacy 년 전 +11

      He is such a beautiful storyteller of history! I absolutely love these podcasts more than anything ever!

    • @keithtarrier4558
      @keithtarrier4558 년 전 +5

      Me too... over and over again I listen. I can't recall every single detail after one, or even a few listens. The more I listen, the more I am amazed at just how 'wonderful' and amazing humans were and have been, despite their "fall".

    • @skykennedy3574
      @skykennedy3574 년 전 +3

      Sean, you took the words from my mouth. Bravo Paul Cooper! This series is one of stunning quality and remarkable production value. I'm going to pay my respect literally, by contributing.

  • @azorazan
    @azorazan 년 전 +97

    It takes a bit, but every time an episode drops, you just know your gonna be in for the absolute pinacle of quality in podcasting, in which no effort was spared at all, making ancient historical storytelling come allive in the finest detail

    • @intuit13
      @intuit13 11 개월 전 +2

      As much as I absolutely love either format, I've been horrendously spoiled by the FoC TV episodes on here, as they were the first contact I had with the podcast at all. Each time a new 'video' (like this) comes out, it's bittersweet as the TV episodes were absolutely the best documentaries I've ever seen, anywhere.
      I would have thought the funding would have gone through the roof, with a never-ending stream of resources given to keep them coming. :/ Too bad I'm not a billionaire.

    • @LordVader1094
      @LordVader1094 11 개월 전

      @@intuit13 I'm trying to figure out what's wrong? Each video gets a TV episode anyway.

    • @intuit13
      @intuit13 11 개월 전

      @@LordVader1094 oh, so this one will get a TV episode as well? How long do they usually take to release?
      edit: And, yea, I didn't notice that til now... When I first found the channel I watched all of them back to back. Then I noticed new podcasts that didn't have a TV episode so I thought maybe the TV/docs weren't going to continue (or at least not every episode of the podcast would get one). I see now that those 2-3 episodes now DO have TV episodes. :)

    • @blakeskidmore523
      @blakeskidmore523 10 개월 전 +2

      @@intuit13 Usually a month or two after the audio drops.

    • @Oll826
      @Oll826 10 개월 전 +1

      What love to see a video on how he makes the videos Tbf

  • @micomata
    @micomata 년 전 +219

    The Punic Genocide -- perpetrated by the ancient Romans -- has always haunted me. Thank you for dignifying this noble people by telling us about their great civilisation, as well as their words and deeds (even their bloodiest ones). I think it's such a tragedy that most Carthaginian literature was consigned to the flames. Paul, your unique gift for storytelling and your empathy for your fellow humans remains unsurpassed.

    • @jedminor6128
      @jedminor6128 년 전 +22

      Hey man you can't just waltz up and down Italy winning battles and expect to live if you let rome continue to exist

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 년 전 +5

      ​@@jedminor6128 Even sacking Rome isn't enough for that. Just ask the continental Celts.

    • @massinabdaoui2780
      @massinabdaoui2780 년 전 +23

      The part about child sacrifices is haunting as well

    • @I_Art_Laughing
      @I_Art_Laughing 년 전

      The genocide of infants earned them a spot in history's dustbin.

    • @clmk28
      @clmk28 년 전 +6

      I can only imagine the loss of such valuable knowledge about their history and the early history of the world. What an immense loss

  • @MarvinT0606
    @MarvinT0606 년 전 +52

    Pinch me I must be dreaming. Thank you for this, the Phoenicians are the missing-link in the other civilizations you've covered. They suffered one of the saddest endings of any civilization, despite the fact that their neighbors and enemies owed much to them.

    • @Grenadier311
      @Grenadier311 년 전 +6

      If they indeed sacrificed children, their fate was well-deserved.

    • @joshthalheimer
      @joshthalheimer 년 전 +12

      @@Grenadier311 well, after all, victor writes the story... and Rome certainly has her 'sacrificed children' moments - in fact, ANY civilization involving 'humanity' has a multitude.

    • @Grenadier311
      @Grenadier311 년 전

      @@nick7832 That's why I said "if".

    • @Grenadier311
      @Grenadier311 년 전 +1

      @@joshthalheimer Yeah, they prided themselves on not practicing human sacrifice when at the end of a Triumph noble captives of a conquered region were ritually strangled in the Temple of Jupiter. Some say that human nature doesn't change, but I think we've evolved quite a bit into a kinder society than what our ancestors knew, at least in our largesse and luxury.

    • @Grenadier311
      @Grenadier311 년 전 +1

      @@joshthalheimer But you're right
      ... many Iraqi children were "sacrificed" to keep the sanctions going, for exemple.

  • @marksaunders1469
    @marksaunders1469 년 전 +335

    Like everyone else it seems, I am absolutely thrilled to see another episode! Love the style, the detail and the consistency of excellence across this series. Very much looking forward to hearing this one in full, thank you Paul, simply wonderful stuff :)
    PS Great to see so many fellow fans too!

    • @FallofCivilizations
      @FallofCivilizations  년 전 +21

      Thanks Mark, very kind of you!

    • @TheDeliciousLegacy
      @TheDeliciousLegacy 년 전

      So so so good!

    • @tin-n-tan
      @tin-n-tan 년 전 +3

      How good is how it starts.
      In the year...and YES!

    • @Xune2000
      @Xune2000 년 전 +4

      I'm not sure when this is going to end, there's only so many fallen civilisations we know of after all, but I hope it's not any time soon.

    • @tommydaniels1805
      @tommydaniels1805 년 전 +6

      @@Xune2000 every new episode I feel one step closer to the last known civilization for FOC to cover. This is a timeless series that is so dense with interesting well articulated information.

  • @bthorson7979
    @bthorson7979 년 전 +21

    Awesome as always

  • @alicevonkannon1033
    @alicevonkannon1033 10 개월 전 +15

    i'm recovering from surgery, bored to tears, until I discovered this show. Incredible. Is there anything better than an historian who's also a poet?

  • @lucasjames7524
    @lucasjames7524 년 전 +584

    Absolutely wonderful channel! I can't even articulate how amazing this channel is, and how much joy it has brought me. A thousand thanks and best wishes!

    • @rjlchristie
      @rjlchristie 년 전 +16

      He has superb narration skills, right up there with Attenborough.

    • @whyjnot420
      @whyjnot420 년 전 +3

      @@rjlchristie It is a shame that the full video versions of his podcasts aren't at the same level as the narration. They would be utterly magnificent if they were. (and don't get me wrong, I like them, they just have so much more potential)

    • @alexanderjohnphilly
      @alexanderjohnphilly 년 전 +2

      You said everything I’m feeling

    • @AnuragKumar-ik1kc
      @AnuragKumar-ik1kc 년 전 +4

      ​@@whyjnot420 man makes 3 hour long videos. The Aztec one is 5 hours. Let the man cook.

    • @MrRussiancoma
      @MrRussiancoma 년 전 +3

      ​@@rjlchristie that is a high bar indeed!

  • @loveli420
    @loveli420 년 전 +63

    I'M SO HAPPY WE HAVE A NEW EPISODE 🎉🎉🎉 hahaha. My day is officially made! Can't wait to give this a listen Paul!

  • @TheVicenteSilva
    @TheVicenteSilva 년 전 +71

    I just listened to the entire thing on Spotify. Probably my favorite episode ever! The way you structured this hours long epic was tremendous. Amazing work

  • @Mulavi
    @Mulavi 년 전 +2

    I listen and fall asleep. Start again where I dozed off before but fall sleep again and so on. It may take me weeks to finish a three-hour long episode. I'm not complaining. I like it. Can't beat the combination of content, length and voice. Thanks again. Great job!

  • @Getcakedieyoung23
    @Getcakedieyoung23 년 전 +85

    In case you ever run out of ideas 😉 The Seleucid Empire, Burgundy and the Qara Khitai Dynasty would also fit into the theme of your podcast.

    • @Etaoinshrdlu69
      @Etaoinshrdlu69 년 전 +8

      Bactera

    • @manupontheprecipice6254
      @manupontheprecipice6254 년 전 +19

      The Abbasid Caliphate, The Tokugawa Shogunate, The Holy Roman Empire, The Mongol Empire.

    • @animula6908
      @animula6908 년 전 +9

      Sometimes I sit and wonder what we are all going to do if he finally runs out of fallen civilizations. Then I look around and remember there’s one born every day.

    • @KieranTaylor86
      @KieranTaylor86 년 전 +9

      His greatest story is still unfinished, Sumer, Assyria & Babylon, that Civilisation needs an ending

    • @MarvinT0606
      @MarvinT0606 년 전 +7

      The Celts deserve their own episode, since they've been mentioned many times in this series

  • @TheVaughan5
    @TheVaughan5 년 전 +51

    Fantastic! I’ve long been fascinated by ancient Carthage and now we have one of the best history sites on Y,T. covering this subject. Can’t thank you enough.

  • @andiiam8145
    @andiiam8145 년 전 +234

    The story of Carthage is truly one of the most heartbreaking tales of all history.

    • @diatonicdelirium1743
      @diatonicdelirium1743 년 전 +48

      I'd say that they were rather despicable actually, slightly worse than the Romans that replaced them. All of the 'great civilizations' were build on the backs of slaves and immeasurable crimes, maybe with the exception of the Nabataeans.
      I know: different times, different mores, but that doesn't change the facts as we know them.

    • @cacogenicist
      @cacogenicist 년 전 +35

      @@diatonicdelirium1743 - The total destruction of the libraries, though ... ugh.

    • @diatonicdelirium1743
      @diatonicdelirium1743 년 전 +37

      @@cacogenicist The loss of knowledge and literature is painful indeed.

    • @jameskazd9951
      @jameskazd9951 년 전 +22

      @@cacogenicist yeah, just as sad as the Library of Alexandria IMO.

    • @cacogenicist
      @cacogenicist 년 전

      @@diatonicdelirium1743 - A cultural salting of the Earth, so to speak. That was a brutally thorough genocide.

  • @mrsnulch
    @mrsnulch 년 전 +33

    Ooh, you are covering one of my favorite civilizations of history - my heart skipped a beat when I saw this. I can't wait to watch!

    • @bigsmookgrovestreet2703
      @bigsmookgrovestreet2703 년 전

      First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon, some history is false and distorted, and that history is facts and very deep. First, Carthage, where is it located? The answer is in Tunisia, and that Hannibal is a Tunisian, a Carthaginian, born in Carthage, not a Phoenician, and has nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal a ruler in Lebanon until he became a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans with his armies, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, and were the people in their era Phoenicians?? The answer is no, why not? Because in their original homeland Tunisia is Berber located in North Africa and not Phoenician and historians agreed that Alissa is a legend even in Phoenician sources as a legend and the researchers did not find her and did not find her inscriptions and the inscriptions are an important source to prove history and they did not find her mosaics and a new study says that the researchers did not find a trace They did not find Phoenician artifacts, but they also found only Roman and Phoenician artifacts that were not found at all, and the historian Herodotus never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he did not mention that the Phoenicians settled in Carthage, and that the Phoenician language was originally not Phoenician, but rather Hebrew and was used in the Torah before They are used by the Phoenicians, and that the Phoenicians want to attribute Carthage to them and steal our great history. I, Carthage, originally had no relationship at all historically with the Phoenicians. Truth appeared and falsehoo

  • @alfieroanania3797
    @alfieroanania3797 년 전 +10

    Time for another journey into ancient landscapes and peoples. KRplus is lucky to have this caliber of content on it’s forum.

  • @robertshaw5599
    @robertshaw5599 년 전 +10

    Paul Cooper for 218 minutes of audio and visual u give us a book of 1,000 pages to read. Well done in compressing time and saving us so much of it, Sir.

  • @zackk6819
    @zackk6819 년 전 +37

    Every time I see a new video on this channel I get a feeling only comparable to how i felt as a child when I learned about something new and exciting. Pure joy and fascination. Thank you and all involved for these top notch audio experiences.

  • @2Phast4Rocket
    @2Phast4Rocket 년 전 +6

    I read about the tragic ending of Carthage but I have not heard the full history of this great civilization before. Thank you for your very educational podcast.

  • @natec7815
    @natec7815 년 전 +9

    The last few minutes had me in tears. Absolutely beautiful I never knew the gritty details of the Carthage's fall.

    • @futuf2265
      @futuf2265 년 전

      I also cried with Carthage's fate! At least, a similar fate had Rome some hundreds of years later

    • @alekisighl7599
      @alekisighl7599 10 개월 전 +2

      ​@@futuf2265 Romes fate was not similar to Carthages at all. And Rome lasted another 1500 years not a couple hundred

    • @futuf2265
      @futuf2265 10 개월 전

      @@alekisighl7599 Rome, the city, had a similar fate as Carthage, just not as worse because it wasn't completely destroyed

  • @AlinJ.
    @AlinJ. 년 전 +23

    This channel is one of the best things that has happened to KRplus. Thank you for another amazing episode.

  • @knusperli
    @knusperli 10 개월 전 +14

    came here because of the epic response on $8chan. Subbed and looking forward to listening to the podcast on my walks.

  • @giespouwen8091
    @giespouwen8091 년 전 +7

    I love how its easy to create a mental image of the empire because your description in this podcast is so detailed

  • @Envoy_Intuition
    @Envoy_Intuition 년 전 +12

    I celebrate Fall of Civilization video drops more than any holiday 🎉 thanks Paul and the FoC team 💕

  • @sarthurl9001
    @sarthurl9001 년 전 +5

    For someone who had listened to EVERY audiobook on Carthage, or even remotely associated with Carthage I must say that what you have produced here is masterful. Thank you very much.

  • @hiddenhorizons68
    @hiddenhorizons68 29 일 전 +1

    These podcasts are like bedtime stories for the history lover in me. Thank you for the enchanting narratives!

  • @wiskasIO
    @wiskasIO 년 전 +2

    Staying alive all this time was worth it, thank you FOC Podcast!! 🙏🏼

  • @Claxiux
    @Claxiux 년 전 +17

    As an Iranian, I love our Lebanese brothers. Can't wait to watch/hear the entire episode!!!

    • @jennydanza3974
      @jennydanza3974 년 전 +2

      Excuse me but iranian and Lebanese are same family.

    • @bigsmookgrovestreet2703
      @bigsmookgrovestreet2703 년 전

      First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon, some history is false and distorted, and that history is facts and very deep. First, Carthage, where is it located? The answer is in Tunisia, and that Hannibal is a Tunisian, a Carthaginian, born in Carthage, not a Phoenician, and has nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal a ruler in Lebanon until he became a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans with his armies, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, and were the people in their era Phoenicians?? The answer is no, why not? Because in their original homeland Tunisia is Berber located in North Africa and not Phoenician and historians agreed that Alissa is a legend even in Phoenician sources as a legend and the researchers did not find her and did not find her inscriptions and the inscriptions are an important source to prove history and they did not find her mosaics and a new study says that the researchers did not find a trace They did not find Phoenician artifacts, but they also found only Roman and Phoenician artifacts that were not found at all, and the historian Herodotus never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he did not mention that the Phoenicians settled in Carthage, and that the Phoenician language was originally not Phoenician, but rather Hebrew and was used in the Torah before They are used by the Phoenicians, and that the Phoenicians want to attribute Carthage to them and steal our great history. I, Carthage, originally had no relationship at all historically with the Phoenicians. Truth appeared and falsehoo

    • @EinFelsbrocken
      @EinFelsbrocken 년 전 +2

      @@jennydanza3974 He said brothers? Lol

  • @Trueshtari
    @Trueshtari 10 개월 전 +21

    Subbed after that amazing take down of Musk and Cheong. Masterclass work, sir.

  • @atomicclockagency
    @atomicclockagency 년 전 +8

    This was maybe the best FoC episode yet. The long and detailed description of Carthage's rise and fall, knowing what fate would befall the city was absolutely magnificent storytelling. The sense of hopelessness and despair at the end of the 3rd Punic war was made so real and one can only imagine how "accepting" those final terms must have felt. The coin without a value analogy will stay with me for a long time. Bravo Paul

    • @FallofCivilizations
      @FallofCivilizations  년 전 +2

      Thanks Sam, very kind of you!

    • @bigsmookgrovestreet2703
      @bigsmookgrovestreet2703 년 전

      First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon, some history is false and distorted, and that history is facts and very deep. First, Carthage, where is it located? The answer is in Tunisia, and that Hannibal is a Tunisian, a Carthaginian, born in Carthage, not a Phoenician, and has nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal a ruler in Lebanon until he became a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans with his armies, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, and were the people in their era Phoenicians?? The answer is no, why not? Because in their original homeland Tunisia is Berber located in North Africa and not Phoenician and historians agreed that Alissa is a legend even in Phoenician sources as a legend and the researchers did not find her and did not find her inscriptions and the inscriptions are an important source to prove history and they did not find her mosaics and a new study says that the researchers did not find a trace They did not find Phoenician artifacts, but they also found only Roman and Phoenician artifacts that were not found at all, and the historian Herodotus never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he did not mention that the Phoenicians settled in Carthage, and that the Phoenician language was originally not Phoenician, but rather Hebrew and was used in the Torah before They are used by the Phoenicians, and that the Phoenicians want to attribute Carthage to them and steal our great history. I, Carthage, originally had no relationship at all historically with the Phoenicians. Truth appeared and falsehoo

  • @ChineseKiwi
    @ChineseKiwi 년 전 +10

    Before Paul's ancestors were coopers, they were the oral storytellers of the tribe as this talent has to be genetic! Another masterpiece and I can't wait for the 4k visuals! Amazing storytelling, while giving when needed, proper context to explain things in an easy-to-digest manner, that helps me learn about these civilisations while your calm voice while you tell that story means it actually helps me fall asleep when I need to!
    I don't usually donate but it's the least I could do for this quality of storytelling and knowledge!

  • @Tgr2k1
    @Tgr2k1 년 전 +16

    Always a delight to see this channel pop up in my subscription feed. The passion and care put into these podcasts is second to none. Thank you!

  • @Piffle88
    @Piffle88 년 전 +10

    Strong work as always, Cooper & Co. I'm looking forward to the video version.
    Thanks!

  • @dur7021
    @dur7021 년 전 +5

    This is a triumph. Absolutely stunning historiography and storytelling. I thought I knew the story of Carthage but I had never weeped at her story before this telling. Bravo

  • @TheChesireKat
    @TheChesireKat 년 전 +14

    the ancients certainly were not primitive. i'm learning so much from this podcast. as an academic i can really appreciate the research you've done! it's extensive!!! and to put it together as you have is as much work as one would do for a masters degree. you deserve multiple degrees!
    i'm especially happy to learn all of this holistically and with such a tight focus on origins and daily life, social structure, political life, exploration.... it's all so fascinating. i'm devouring the information!
    thank you a million times over for your research and presentation of the information. it's delicious and beautiful history!

  • @jamesf3871
    @jamesf3871 년 전 +9

    Thank you for your hard work in preparing these presentations. They are very enjoyable and I always appreciate them. CARTHAGO DELENDA EST.

    • @Deridus
      @Deridus 년 전 +2

      Cetera censeo, Terra delendam esse...

  • @simplybtw
    @simplybtw 11 개월 전 +3

    i really just use these videos to sleep the voice acting is very soothing

  • @erichighsmith7299
    @erichighsmith7299 년 전 +3

    Perfect for my long haul drive I have tomorrow as a truck driver. Saving this to listen to tomorrow like I just said. Love the series and the amount of work it takes to put out these high quality long version series. 👏 👏 👏

  • @danfromtheburgh
    @danfromtheburgh 년 전 +10

    Just did about 6 hours of revisiting older episodes and casually listening to your voice and learning about major events in history. Such a delight to see a fresh episode, especially considering the length and quality. Thanks mate, here take this imaginary donation funded by my imaginary well paying job

  • @runkeral901
    @runkeral901 년 전 +15

    Since I've discovered your channel, I just love going to bed at night and falling asleep to your videos, allowing my minds eyes to carry me around the world in times long gone. And the only flaw is it takes so long for a new video, even though I realise it can't be helped in order to be quality made. Awesome job, Paul❤and I have some suggestions for future videos. Egypt, the Elamite kingdom, Third Bulgarian kingdom, the Indus Valley civilization,the Naska culture, with the petroglyphs. The Dahomei kingdom in Africa. The ancient Korean kingdom Silla or others from the region. ❤

  • @djbucksd
    @djbucksd 년 전 +4

    Probably in my top 3 KRplus channels of all time, and I’ve been kicking around since the beginning. If you’re not already a moonlighting documentarian of some sort, and I’m guessing you are, you should be. Thank you for all the content, truly.

  • @khavafis
    @khavafis 년 전 +9

    I can hardly exagerate how superbly crafted this material has been put together. I subscribed at once. Because I work an independent trade, I can listen at will with my earpods while working even though I have to cut the video in three or four slices. Absolutely gripping story. Thank you.

  • @Aktentasche1
    @Aktentasche1 년 전 +4

    Your stuff is the absolute best when it comes to historical podcasts. Thank you so much!

  • @cephalophore2631
    @cephalophore2631 년 전 +6

    My favorite segments of these podcasts are the accompanying excerpts, songs, or poems, etc. at the closing. "Imagine..."
    I felt that this one was emotionally intense because many people interested in history or modern politics even are often keenly aware of the concept of 'identicide'... when we imagine our ancestors or anyone for that matter facing the infringement of their heritage or outright annihilation we can really feel the doom they must've felt. Whether it's the:
    Carthaginians trapped for three years in their city
    The Poles during the partitioning, world war 2, or Soviet occupation
    The Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians, etc. during the Turkish genocides.
    The Persians crushed by the Macedonian, Arab, Turkic, or Mongolian Empire.
    Native Americans experiencing the conditions of Manifest Destiny.
    Yazidis, Kurds, Uighurs...
    even the Basques, Bretons pressured to learn only Spanish/French.
    Whether it's the Nazis renaming a city to a German name, the Russians or Ukrainians changing toponyms to cities, or the Palestinians who lose their villages..
    everyone struggles in this clash of identities.
    But when we think of how it was for Carthage and how it was presented in this podcast - I almost feel despair.

  • @bogdanvijan1
    @bogdanvijan1 년 전 +9

    Great work Mr. Cooper, Fall of Civilizations Podcast is the best youtube channel of history. Although English is not my native language, by the way Mr. Cooper narrates, I absolutely understand everything. I always look forward to a new episode. Bogdan - Romania

  • @laurajurgensen3943
    @laurajurgensen3943 년 전 +23

    The timbre, research, music, voice-overs and organization are outstanding!! Historic storytelling at its best!!

  • @euchiron
    @euchiron 년 전 +3

    Best way to spend a Friday evening - relaxing with a new episode. I'm looking forward to the video treatment. Gorgeous work as always ❤

  • @grump9001
    @grump9001 년 전 +9

    There are very few youtube channels that make me as excited to see a new video than this one. You are brilliant and these have seriously been like therapy for me. Listening while I draw, and feeling like I really learned something. Thank you for your work!

  • @perrywidhalm114
    @perrywidhalm114 11 개월 전 +5

    I deeply appreciate all the work and effort you bring to these podcasts. Generally, these videos are quite well presented and historically accurate. The narrator's voice is first rate. Thank you!

  • @russelljackson2818

    Wow... just, wow. Another incredible epic. I stayed up far too late but I couldn't stop listening. Your work is only getting better, Paul & Co.!

  • @giash1
    @giash1 11 개월 전 +5

    I was there at the ruins before the pandemic, didn't know anything about them and how great their empire was and finally their sad demise. Thank you for your great work.

  • @osamafarooqtarar3541

    Wait of almost six months ended today....I just downloaded 2 of your episodes today while waiting for the new release....It would be yet another great episode especially when visuals would be added later

  • @t512100
    @t512100 년 전 +14

    Amazing work Paul! Been looking forward to your videos! Thanks for the enlightening videos you produce!

  • @nyctosoutheastasia7175

    Best way I sleep nights is when I listen to Fall Of Civilization podcast. Seen everyone of them awake also. Great bedtime stories. Calming relaxing. Thanks for your hard work making these videos for us. Much appreciated 🙏

  • @nar0nx
    @nar0nx 년 전 +1

    Every single episode of this channel is a reason to rejoice. Thank you!

  • @CallmeKenneth-tb1zb

    There are not words to describe just how much I enjoyed this episode. I had no idea how brutal and bloody the 3rd Punic war was.

    • @bigsmookgrovestreet2703
      @bigsmookgrovestreet2703 년 전 +1

      First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon, some history is false and distorted, and that history is facts and very deep. First, Carthage, where is it located? The answer is in Tunisia, and that Hannibal is a Tunisian, a Carthaginian, born in Carthage, not a Phoenician, and has nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal a ruler in Lebanon until he became a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans with his armies, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, and were the people in their era Phoenicians?? The answer is no, why not? Because in their original homeland Tunisia is Berber located in North Africa and not Phoenician and historians agreed that Alissa is a legend even in Phoenician sources as a legend and the researchers did not find her and did not find her inscriptions and the inscriptions are an important source to prove history and they did not find her mosaics and a new study says that the researchers did not find a trace They did not find Phoenician artifacts, but they also found only Roman and Phoenician artifacts that were not found at all, and the historian Herodotus never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he did not mention that the Phoenicians settled in Carthage, and that the Phoenician language was originally not Phoenician, but rather Hebrew and was used in the Torah before They are used by the Phoenicians, and that the Phoenicians want to attribute Carthage to them and steal our great history. I, Carthage, originally had no relationship at all historically with the Phoenicians. Truth appeared and falsehoo

  • @Pan472
    @Pan472 년 전 +6

    Even though it's an episode about the great Phoenicians, it's more than honouring for my nation, the Greeks, to be mentioned so much in this episode... Congratulations Mr Cooper, watched the whole podcast, and I'm anticipating the documentary version soon!

  • @chuckmiskel6553
    @chuckmiskel6553 3 개월 전 +1

    You are a great story teller. I could see sitting at a campfire listening to you in the olden times. Thanks for your hard work

  • @Thestaalos
    @Thestaalos 년 전 +2

    Everytime i have to take a long car trip, i check your channel beforehand. Seeing a 3h+ video is like christmas, but for adults. You have the best channel on youtube, noone can compete

  • @DivineByDesignWithDani

    Seeing a new video dropped totally MADE MY DAY ! Been waiting forever for new content. Thank you so, SO much ! I can hardly wait to dive in

  • @ramonav.6983
    @ramonav.6983 년 전 +5

    Thank you! As usual, a masterpiece.

  • @keenanhowell2070
    @keenanhowell2070 년 전 +4

    The writing and production value of this podcast is incomparable, Paul. I cannot imagine the effort required to produce each episode. I appreciate every detail which, in concert, makes the release of every installment feel like an event. Your exacting standards for excellence remind me to give the utmost to my own endeavors.

  • @SimonPuterbaugh
    @SimonPuterbaugh 년 전 +3

    We have been blessed with more greatness. Thank you all at the team.

  • @martyndavidson6598

    Been waiting ages for this.
    Thanks so much for you're continued uploads.

  • @JSoftic
    @JSoftic 년 전 +8

    Masterpiece after masterpiece.
    Cant thank you enough for all the work you do. This is just so well done, as everything else you put out.
    Nothing but the best for you and rest of the team.

    • @bigsmookgrovestreet2703
      @bigsmookgrovestreet2703 년 전

      First, you must know, as Napoleon Bonaparte said, history is nothing but lies agreed upon, some history is false and distorted, and that history is facts and very deep. First, Carthage, where is it located? The answer is in Tunisia, and that Hannibal is a Tunisian, a Carthaginian, born in Carthage, not a Phoenician, and has nothing to do with the Phoenicians. Was Hannibal a ruler in Lebanon until he became a Phoenician? The answer is no, and was Hannibal at the time of fighting the Romans with his armies, were his armies Phoenicians? The answer is no, and were the people in their era Phoenicians?? The answer is no, why not? Because in their original homeland Tunisia is Berber located in North Africa and not Phoenician and historians agreed that Alissa is a legend even in Phoenician sources as a legend and the researchers did not find her and did not find her inscriptions and the inscriptions are an important source to prove history and they did not find her mosaics and a new study says that the researchers did not find a trace They did not find Phoenician artifacts, but they also found only Roman and Phoenician artifacts that were not found at all, and the historian Herodotus never mentioned that the Carthaginians were the Phoenicians, and he did not mention that the Phoenicians settled in Carthage, and that the Phoenician language was originally not Phoenician, but rather Hebrew and was used in the Torah before They are used by the Phoenicians, and that the Phoenicians want to attribute Carthage to them and steal our great history. I, Carthage, originally had no relationship at all historically with the Phoenicians. Truth appeared and falsehoo

  • @ShyFly1000
    @ShyFly1000 년 전 +1

    Why isn’t there an ultra like button?! Because like doesn’t even begin to explain or encompass how I feel about this podcast! The Phoenicians were brilliant.

  • @mickandcharli9942
    @mickandcharli9942 년 전 +7

    What a beautiful tragedy . Given the respect it deserves by your retelling sir . Congratulations to you and your team

  • @ros1424
    @ros1424 년 전 +7

    Made my day, so looking forward to these. Love the culture and poetry he finds and uses. Truly worth waiting for. It's a lovely treat in these days 🤗

  • @spambotfodder
    @spambotfodder 년 전 +8

    As usual, Paul you have provided an AWESOME podcast - thank you so much for the catalog of historical civilizations that show the ancient times are worth learning about. Two thumbs up from me!

  • @ChristopherBowly
    @ChristopherBowly 2 개월 전 +2

    History brought to life with wonderful descriptions & detail. An absolute feast. Many thanks for another outstanding episode.

  • @jilijeg
    @jilijeg 년 전 +2

    I personally think this is the best channel on you tube. The level of storytelling is so great, it feels like reading a book. Plus is a constant reminder that humanity only changed tools not overall behaviour during history.

  • @joaoabegao2888
    @joaoabegao2888 년 전 +6

    The poem at the end... Got me in tears...
    Beautiful episode. Thank you Paul, and to everyone else involved.

  • @diatonicdelirium1743

    Being ill I went to re-listen to a FoC podcast while in bed... only to be surprised by a brand new one, thanks Paul!
    Lying down in the dark I appreciated your style even more, with the tranquil music and the great voice acting bringing the story to life.

  • @ChineseKiwi
    @ChineseKiwi 11 개월 전 +1

    1 million views and it isn't even the video!!! MORE THAN DESERVED PAUL!!

  • @El_Castor_Bravo
    @El_Castor_Bravo 년 전 +2

    It's like Christmas in Spring! Best gift ever right now. Love this Middle Eastern series Carthage , Assyria, and Summeria. I have fantastic dreams from listening to these to sleep to. Thank you Fall of Civilizations!

  • @mikoshino
    @mikoshino 년 전 +3

    Ok i‘m SO ready for this. Waited ages. I‘m not even exaggerating if i say that literally anything Paul puts his hands on becomes amazing. Thank you SO much for this. Will watch in the evening!

  • @sevenprovinces
    @sevenprovinces 년 전 +3

    Oh wow! I asked for this in a previous video of yours. Now I'm not self-involved to see a correlation, still this totally brightened my day.
    I so wanted to learn more about the Phoenicians, but could never tackle to condense it down in the eloquent, poetic yet gorgeously
    liner and to-the-point kind of way. Thank you so much team FoC!

  • @user-ug2yz6vb7p
    @user-ug2yz6vb7p 26 일 전 +1

    A long time ago I started watching these..I thought you stopped..Glad this one is here. Thank you.

  • @David-tg2uc
    @David-tg2uc 년 전 +1

    Thank you Paul! I have been waiting for this episode.

  • @NoHairMan
    @NoHairMan 년 전 +3

    Barely any other channel I'm more excited to see an upload. Thank you!

  • @bertbaker7067
    @bertbaker7067 년 전 +4

    The quality of your podcasts/videos is really amazing, thanks for sharing another great piece of work.

  • @Saberlena
    @Saberlena 년 전 +1

    Positively one of the finest historical channels on KRplus.

  • @samjackson7244
    @samjackson7244 년 전 +2

    You put me to sleep 😴 thank you friend! 🙏🏼

  • @Rayrard
    @Rayrard 년 전 +7

    The best ancient civilization podcast on KRplus... the time goes by so fast and you tell the story so well. Can't wait for the illustrated version that is always a work of art

  • @rwtwb
    @rwtwb 년 전 +4

    I've been waiting for this to pop back up on my feed for months! And a great topic indeed. My oldest is learning about Rome in history class right now and we were talking about Hamilcar and Hanno the Navigator. Now I've got this to share with him too! Thanks for all your hard work on these. They are a treasure for future generations.

  • @user-xs4rm7cs7h
    @user-xs4rm7cs7h 11 개월 전 +1

    You cannot understand the complete JOY felt when I see you have posted a new podcast/video. Thank you for every single one.

  • @Wonderboywonderings

    Carthage has been my request since the beginning of this podcast series! Can't wait to listen! Thanks.