Interesting Competitive Pokémon Gimmicks
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Not cool. Pretty disappointed :/
Did you just hide some of the top comments calling you out on this?
I get that it's money, but audit your sponsors better.
Come on, man, we've all fumbled. No hard feelings if you just own up to it.
BH probably had him sign an NDA. We probably have to wait a bit until he can say something.
@@misteral9045it’s plausible, it happened with another large KRplusr degenerocity
@@misteral9045If you think that is a stretch i think you just don't know how this works.
@@misteral9045 ???? That doesn't even make sense as an insult.
@@misteral9045Jumpscare
Starting to think this ImprovedSupport stuff is. Not Cool
lmao
what exactly happened?
@@typhoonboom thier therapist are shit
@@typhoonboom2:20, search for the news of it
@@sujalaneja1034 Their "therapists" are not checked for qualifications before they sell your "private" chats to advertisers.
Hey man, i saw the sponsor and wanted to chime in. I don`t think you`re a bad guy and you need to feed yourself, but better help is not someone you wanna partner with. There`s numerous articles/videos addressing peoples concerns about their practices, and they really arent a company to be trusted. I`d look into the stigma around that company and consider ceasing sponsorship from them. It`s ok to take sponsors and I really do respect the hustle, love the vids, but there are far better companies to partner with.
all the substitutions for the sponsor’s name is killing me rn
Best gimmick is Poketuber + No due diligence
Favourite gimmick strat is going in with no due diligence while being a public figure
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That’s a good one lmfao
I was about to comment something like this lmao
If you want to make a difference in the world you won't achieve it in the comment section
@@bweekz Neither will you. We're just trying to point out that this specific sp-on-sor is not acting in their customer's best interest, and holding him accountable for his lack of due diligence.
My favorite gimmick move is Pay Day, you'd think that it would have absolutely no competitive use but there are a few mons you can put it on to saddle Ditto with a completely useless move before switching out strategically, or even just sacrificing them. Reminds me of how Freez sacrificed his soul for a $1000 pay day in sponsorbux.
What's wrong with getting sponsored?
@@gregorymirabella1423Look into this specific one, even just a quick search. The FTC has a report on them.
@@gregorymirabella1423 Its not being sponsored that is the complaint here - that is fine. Its who is doing the sponsoring that is tge problem, as they do not have a great track record.
@@drthvrdrand clearly everyone seems to know this so what’s the problem ? he’s not mr big bucks and he needs money to sustain himself and anybody who may rely on his income
@@drthvrdr I mean, those issues only recently came to light, he could have signed the contract before all that was revealed or just not known, it happens
Just here to see if my comment is going to get deleted for criticizing you for supporting that shit
A certain provider of funds has a not great track record
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I saw that they were turned off entirely for a bit. I am aware that most companies want a pinned comment being to tell people to click the link as well as it being in the description, most of the time it being part of the contract they make with YTbers. Considering the history of BH, it is highly unlikely that they will be lenient on the aspect of less links available to send people their way. Dude probably realized JUST how screwed that would have made him and turned them back on.
Oh get over it
@@homerman76 actual bootlicker lmao
Shoutouts to Big yellow teaching me about level 85 chansey
I cant confidently say Big Yellow would NEVER take a GooderAssist sponsorshit
2:15 doo doo
dee dee mega doo doo
But since it's a Pokemon channel, it's more like
doo-doo-Mega
Lol
When generation 10 gets released, it will be interesting to see BetterHelp’s impact on the VGC meta. I heard it’s getting a new ability that buffs the Special Attack of all IDF soldiers on switch in. Combined with its signature move stealing the opponents health information and giving it to any social media type teammate, it’s value as a support is through the roof.
My favorite version of FEAR was probably in gen 5, when weather was still permanent and Sturdy just got buffed. You'd get up sandstorm, then use a level 1 Aron with Endeavor and Shell Bell. The idea was that Endeavor would bring the opponent down to 1 HP (because you survived with Sturdy), the damage from that would immediately heal you to full again through Shell Bell, and then the sand chip damage would ideally kill the opponent, allowing you to the same thing over again on the next mon. Obviously plenty of things that could stop it, but when it works and actually kills more than just one mon (contrary to the regular FEAR, which always just kills one mon at best), it's hilarious.
2:14 He said doodoo
Long time fan of your content, do better on who you accept sponsors from, this one is getting a dislike from me.
What's wrong with helping people with mental health issues? We get it you never had one but it's very weird you are offended by someone caring about it.
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This video is good at explaining it.
@@starboiklem8381 This service he is sponsored by really does not provide any useful or professional help to its clients, and it may cause them to suffer more.
If y'all don't have an extension that makes dislikes viewable, y'all really should look into getting one, because at the time I'm commenting roughly over two thirds of the likes are matched by dislikes, and for good reason ☠
4.2k likes and 3.1k dislikes, from what i can see now
Y’all who are CRYING in the replies know you can skip ahead past sponsors right?? Touch grass.
@@misteral9045
"No u"
Is the strongest comeback
@@markramos1216What's happening is that people are objecting to something because it's immoral, not because it interrupts their KRplus content. This may be hard to understand, so I can explain further if this is a new concept for you.
Edit: lol wrong reply
You copy pasted this same reply to someone else weirdo. Try to have an original thought. @@markramos1216
My favorite gimmick is using shedinja as the most efficient spike sac in the game in gen 3. Basically, by switching in shedinja and having it immediately die, the turn just ends and you can deny a recovery or setup move while getting a completely safe switch into a fast offensive threat one per battle
Only works because fainting in gen 3 automatically ends the turn.
@@CantusTropus Yeah I think that's the point
The beautiful thing about this strategy is that it was only tried one time, and it was in the penultimate round of a massive tournament, and it won. Nobody had ever done it before, and nobody is ever going to try to do that again.
i found the one comment actually discussing the video XD
Dive Cats was also a Gimmick that you didnt go over and was incredibly annoying
I believe he covered it in a different video but yes this is a classic gimmick.
@@misteral9045that’s not a real format
@@misteral9045Oh god I remember that.
Protective Pads, Whirlpool, Psychic Fangs Dracovish only for toxapex be like: Double Kick Terrakion only for UBERs Smeargle lol. If you know, you know.
Mazar?
@@jellifii right. The tigers
It's all fun and games until Mega Bannete in National Dex OU is in the vid.
What’s that gimmick?
@@HarpieSummersits just a reference to mega banette being in natdex ou despite being absolutely terrible there
That mon sucks tho, it's only viable use is prankster destiny bond and that is it
@@HarpieSummersprankster destiny bond
@@EpiclyEpicGamer As someone who actually uses and faces it on ladder, I can tell you that it's quite good, not broken but it doesn't suck.
Its rise to OU was only caused by power creep alone, a desperate attempt to find something that answers most potential threats at once, using the priority destiny bond + slow poltergeist combo, it doesn't even has to hit and it's sometimes just guaranteed value on a match.
Switching it against a pokemon that'll boost is nice too, priority encore.
It's just a nice utility pokemon that doesn't even need to run max atk, its only downsides being dark types, using the mega slot and mega Scizor.
One time I swept my younger brother with full ubers using a full Level 1 team. It was probably the most hilarious battle I ever had (for me at least lmao)
I don't think you should be promoting EnhancedAid.
I can’t believe you’ve done this
The only gimmick I knew from this video was the F.E.A.R. Strategy
An interesting gimmick that was used in Gen 8 was Grudge Dragapult to remove all the PP on Clefable Moonblast so that it would no long be a check for Urshifu-SingleStrike prior to when it was banned
Not cool man.
Wdym?
@@gregorymirabella1423he means that he really hates freezai
@@sickdewd5694why
@@Fvckallofyou1Because of the GoodSupport Spoonsir
@@agentblackbird9435 ohhhh
sometimes is best to accept your mistakes and apologize... -1 sub
He's probably under a contract that forces him to behave like this
Hopefully.
What happened ?
@@unfunniestman if he had signed an NDA he would've said it
Did you miss any gimmicks? Go through Weedletwineedle's showdown videos. Simple beam+trace. Wandering spirit+no guard/huge power. Skill swap. Teatime+Harvest. All the good stuff.
to be fair most of Weedle's gimmicks - while very creative and conceptually impressive - are not very consistent and reliable in high level play. I know that FEAR isn't winning any tournaments either but still
@michabaron4129 no gimmicks are competitively viable, that's why they are called gimmicks
@@jamesrgamesofficalThat isn’t true. Some gimmicks may be unviable, but some are used competitively. For example, block trapping is viable, offensive Skarmory is viable in gen 3 ou, and anger point strategies in vgc are also used. Have fun discovering gimmicks, you might just find the next good one.
@@jamesrgamesofficalI don’t think gimmicks as a whole are competitively unviable. Offensive skarmory allowing it to beat its biggest counter does allow you to play more loosely with it. A lot of the time you have to switch out immediately for fear of being trapped with a normal skaromory or just settle for a single spike and die to magnet. In that same situation you get to click spikes and then just kill the magnet on the switch in. And magnet is common enough that it’s worth considering and hp ground has its uses in other matchups like ttar as well.
@@blahtest what I meant to say is that gimmicks aren't made to be viable, more just to throw people off. It was in response to the guy saying that weedles gimmicks aren't good competitively
GreaterAid sponor real fishy
video starts 4 effing minutes in
no
Fun fact, Z-Me First was also seen on Pinsir in Gen 7 PU, using basically the same strategy but combining the effect with Moxie as a late game cleaner
Cmon man better help
Ya missed a bunch of controversy on your spon.
@@misteral9045Silence contracts (Non-Disclosure Agreements) are a thing, hopefully that's the case here
@@misteral9045 I'm just using a bit of common sense, rather than being driven by the wish to burn someone alive on the internet.
What i mean is that Zai probably got into a situation where he must show WorseDisturb positively in his videos to get his money.
Also what are the other 2 times?
@@unfunniestmanthis. we need more people like you
@@misteral9045That's literally the opposite of being brainwashed, it's showing how companies can fuck you over and control you with contracts
I would like to mention Safety Goggles Zoroark as a gimmick. You can use it on a sand/hail team to trick your opponent into thinking it's a different Pokemon, or you can use it to switch into powder moves to bluff being a Grass Type.
My favorite gimmick Poketuber is WeedleTwineedle with Simple+Trace Gardevoir strats
weedle is the kween we love her
@@inmanis2924 weedle goes by they/them btw
Perfect name btw
@@OyvEWeedle is the monarch we always needed
@@OyvEWe don't care
Ariados has a gimmicky trap passing set in Generation 2. Normally, Roar/Whirlwind can shut down this strategy, which many defensive Pokémon you may want to trap pass have. But with Protect+Disable, no such problem occurs.
Speaking of Ariados, it has a niche set in Gen 4 - specifically, the Uber Tier. It can anti-lead Darkrai really well as Insomnia makes it immune to Dark Void, it threatens to win a direct combat with X-Scissor+Sucker Punch and it can also setup Toxic Spikes. It can also remove TSpikes for your team as well.
unfortunately ariados is stuck with bug bite for that strategy because it does not get x-scissor but that makes it even funnier as it still does like 80%
i've got a good one. in gen 3, hidden power can be either physical or special because the physical special split hadn't happened yet. but the base move itself is a normal type physical move, which means if your opponent uses hidden power (the most common attack in the tier) then you can use counter on it even if it's a special attack lol
Missed dive cats lol
Dive cats wasn’t really niche it was meta defining and ended up forcing gf to change how assist worked
Revive cats was my favorite. How many cats do you need to KO to win? YES.
I watch weedle twineedle so nothing surprises me
My Full Assist team used V-Create as the only callable move. I was walled pretty hard by Heatran (trying to knock it out with moves like Covet and Thief), but it was a lot of fun. I had Ninetales to set up permanent sun (this was in the days of the weather wars), then Victini to supply the V-Create. My Assisters were Infernape (STAB V-Create in sun), Spinda (Contrary means V-Create boosts your stats every time you use it, and Copycat ideally lets you steal more good moves (Draco Meteor, say) to sweep with), Liepard (Choice Band Prankster means that the V-Create has +1 priority) and Purrloin (just as a second Liepard, priority V-Create is that strong).
Mentioning prankester as well as assist in a gimmick video and not talking about dive cats is wild
The betterhelp
Wasnt Copycat + Roar not supposed to function that way on Showdown so they patched it?
yeah he literally didn't even research that, it's not true and hasn't been for years
it's especially funny since he made a video previously about being wrong about this exact thing
It was not supposed to work in gen 4, the reason they made the mistake in the first place is that it works in gen 5
@@giovannipellegrino878 oh, huh, the more you know. my bad, then, i didn't realize that's what 'counts as the last move used' implied in that case.
My favorite will always be the Magneton match up fish in Gen 3 OU, where you use torment as Skarm hoping they switch to a mag to counter the skarm, then switch to dugtrio and sand attack the magneton down. You then switch into trace gardevoir so the mag can't leave and sub calm mind up. It's disgusting and hilarious (Jimothy Cool has a video on it)
i just watched that video. bro was like "Oh hi Jim i love your vids ❤️" and then proceeded to have most dastardly sinful gardevoir completely wipe him
Mummy Slaking with Pursuit is probably the craziest gimmick...
One gimmick I saw and then tried but didn't exactly work all the time was Nightmare Butterfree. Basically a Butterfree equipped with Focus Sash and using Infestation, Sleep Powder, Nightmare and something to deal damage in the fourth slot (Dream Eater, Bug Buzz, Etc).
Just Sleep Powder the opponent, which has +/- 99% accuracy because of Butterfree's Compoundeyes, then trap it with Infestation. Next Nightmare it and watch it just wither away.
Unless, you know, it wakes up during any of this... on which case Focus Sash can at least buy you 1 more turn if they don't switch too much.
Choice band Ferrothorn in gen 5 ou is funny af. No you don't try to eliminate a counter with this, you genuinely use it offensively.
94 attack and 30 speed aren't great, but 150 power gyroball and huge natural bulk almost makes up for that.
Wait ferrothorn only has 93 atk? AI could swear it was more
@@pettermiranda4651 mb it's 94
I expected better from you man
can someone tell me the like/dislike ratio on this video
likes: 3.9k
dislikes: 2.6k
rn it's 4.1k / 2.9k
42% dislikes
how does one see dislikes
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One of the things I used to do in VGC during sword and shield was prankster, trick, ring target on Whimsicott along with regieleki. Gives the opponent NO turns to adjust to becoming electric weak on their Lando and other prominent ground types. This along with fake tears and dynamaxing let regieleki absolutely decimate teams with no switchins. Personally, I piloted it to top 100 on the smogon VGC ladder and only struggled after facing the same players multiple times, which is another reason it is a gimmick in the normal 3 v 3 format, but in a ladder format I found it to be absolutely a legitimate strategy.
Betterhelp
This is a rather obscure gimmick, but I came up with an idea with the Natdex OU chat about revive spam (not revive cats). So I use pawmot with a standard revive set, I use rabsca with revive, rest and sleep talk to make it have a 50% chance of calling revive when asleep, which bypasses pp limitations. The rest of the team would be scarf ditto, prankster destiny bond banette, imprison form mew and a random mon. The thought process is that on this team you losing a mon isn't a high price since you can always revive it, so using stuff that guarantees knock outs even through indirect damage is worth it like destiny banette.
F.E.A.R., level 85 Chansey, and HP-Ground Skarmory i already knew about, those last two were covered by Big Yellow!
I thought we eliminated betterhelp like, 3 or 4 years ago, they should not have been allowed to weasel their way back into the sponsorship space like they have
damn.. i hope the money was worth it
Honestly, i'd like to think he's being forced to show a possitive image about WorseDisturb because of a contract.
Money is money, after all. Not everyone is an Eagleland high class who can just buy new devices every time theirs stop working and don't suffer with student debt. Plus, with how WorseDisturb's reputation is going down the drain, their Payday must give WAY more Pokédollars than other sponsors.
That being said, pick your partners better next time, Zai.
I saw most of them on Big Yellow's videos (and I think Reverend?)
I was STUMPED when I fell for that Cofagrigus/Slaking strat 😭
I knew every one except the copycat shell smash eject button tech
that's a lot of layers to fake out into a second setup but the 200 IQ satisfaction must feel great when it works
Actually, the riolu roar gimmick... wasn't supposed to exist. It doesn't work on console, and it was only on showdown because nobody noticed it.
I like Beat-up Justified Lucario.
6:02 That's actually something I like doing with certain Pokemons. One such set I did was special Ultra Necrozma evolving from Dusk Mane form. Typically, physical Ultra Necrozma evolve from Dusk Mane, and special Ultra Necrozma evolve from Dawn Wings, or Dusk Mane doesn't evolve and stays a physical tank. But my Dusk Mane Necrozma was using a special set with Calm Mind, so they switch upon seeing my Necrozma, see Calm Mind, and then they're completely confused on if I'm just trying to boost my weaker defensive side or if I'm going to evolve and be a special powerhouse. At least, even if they don't fall for it, the Dusk Mane form still gives me some nice bulk to set-up, and they never know when I'll switch typing.
My favorite gimmick is Magic Room with a Choice Scarf user with SD/Nasty Plot. You set-up Magic Room, swap in the Set-up sweeper, set-up, and when Magic Room is over, you get +2 atk/spA +1 speed, and you try to sweep. Funnier if it is the same pokemon, but "too much set-up". Basically a worse double dance. But funnier ahahaha
Back when espathra was in uu i used torment bisharp to counter it, i forgot how it did but i think it worked suprisingly well
appreciate you bringing these to the forefront and giving players more ways to think about the game :D
minimize -> baton pass to smergle with moody ability and the moveset of spore, substitute, accupressure, and baton pass -> setup with accupressures until you have enough boosts -> baton pass to krookadile with power trip and sweep.
2:24 :(
My personal favorite gimmick strategy is Arcanine + Wonder Guard + Burn Out. Basically makes him (almost) invincible
Leech seed go brr
@@John_the_Paul substitute go brr
You can use weather goggles to counter hail, taunt to counter shenanigans and substitute for added protection. Rest to remove status and use Burn Out as your main method of attacking.
i knew all but one
The only one I didn't know about was Copycat + Shell Smash, but if I saw Eject Pack on a Shell Smash Pojémon I would've been able to guess that Copycat would follow.
As a casual pokemon fan that hasn't kept up with the series in 10 or so years, I really appreciate that you explain what abilities/moves do. In many cases i've either never heard of them, or i've forgotten.
My fav one was clearly ant and dog
You would use the truant tactic with the ant and then change to zygarde-dog to trap them with waves. You could then dragon dance your heart now, and then when you are done, just let the enemy hit you once. The damage will hopefully be enough to transform the dog into the gig-garde...
i knew fear and the lvl 85 chansey one, 5 years of competitive pokemon and still have a lot to see
Is reverse sticky web/toxic spikes too farfetched? With ability swap magic bounce and then guts pokemon, contrary or even quickfeet
That strategy was so cancerous even for weedle standard they didn't liked that one so glad we have court change now
lvl comfee tailow magneton and nosepass are all noteworthy at least
Didn’t know 5, but Slaking acc goes crazy when it finally stops skiving and gets some work done
One of the goofiest yet deadliest gimmick sets I remember was boomer remover mew
The idea was simple:
1) use block to trap a mon
2) use imprison to shut down their moves
3) use transform and watch them cry
It was truly evil, yet oh so hilarious
Gen 1 level 89(?) counter Chansey is another one that could be mentioned
An adaptation I’ve seen to stop Imprison Trick Room is to Dynamax your Trick Room user and use Trick Room as Max Guard. Your ally can Copycat the Max Guard which turns back to Trick Room. With Prankster Copycat, Trick Room goes up before your opponent can move.
Whirlpool Dracovish, Ring Target Jirachi, Mummy Pursuit Slaking, Block Zyguard, Z-Me First Mienfoo, Truant Protect Dugtrio, Copycat Eject Pack Shell Smash, Present Chansey, and Roar Trick Room were all new interesting niche strategies to me. Great list here!
what lack of decency for you to "promocionar" Bottom-Heist
yeah the sponsr of this vid isnt great, freez probably didnt know which is ok but I hope he learns and doesnt partner again
already happened like 3 times
@@kanonpvzmaybe hes on a contract for X uploads? Idk. If it keeps happening we will have to just unsub ig
@@ZachariusStorkanus
I wouldn't go that far
@@marcorodriguez8792 why not?
Oh stop, it’s just a sponsor. It really doesn’t matter, stop being in such a hissy fit.
It's sad that a lot of these wacky strategies no longer exist thanks to Dexit/Movexit and, as the latest gen, complete moveset formatting
Kind of love gimmick pokemon like this Makes me feel like a bunch of Pokémon are special
That one video of Assist - V Create on Emvee's channel
does he know
@@antehman2912 yeah it was before Emvee's controversy was discovered. Such a shame :(
Okay, the Present glitch is insane. Fascinating to learn the crazy information regarding how things worked back then.
4:00 "Generation 3 is well known for being one of the best Defensive Pokémon
I knew all of the accept present blissey. Assist teams were actually my favorite to make back in the day. I was upset when they removed the move but revive cats proved why it may have been necessary.
didn't know about entrainment truant durant or present blissey. i knew durant had entrainment and some part of my brain didn't want to know that it also had truant lol. the counter-imprison strat is really fucking cool
I can’t believe the toxic shit people are giving you. Hope you are doing well. So many insufferable comments doing rather the opposite of spreading awareness, and being plain hateful
I used Entrainment Durant + Dragonite to completely trivialize the Battle Maison(with mega slowbro with rest + calm mind in the back just in case), really fun strategy that worked way more than it should
mummy slacking is peak gaming
Idk if it counts, but the video reminded me of it. On a VGC tourney final (Markus Stadter vs Alex Soto).
Markus used trick to give a choice specs to Alex's Indeede, locking it on trick room and on that same turn he switched in Gothitelle for a swift win. Prob not gimmicky but cheese for sure
Didn't they recently find out copycat didn't copy roar multiple times in a row or something like that and has to change it?
I loved using Scarf Anger Point Primeape when Ursh Single Strike was running the OU meta when he was first released
I only knew fear...
I used Treecko instead of Rattata to kick Ultra Necrozma’s light-stealing butt in UM! Wish I nicknamed it Deku. From MHA AND ZELDA.
One of my favorite gimmicks is Transform/Block/Imprison Mew. It's only good to take down 1 opposing mon, but it's by far the funniest way to do it.
Here is a gimmic I'm quite fond of: Prankster spore in a double battle. You basically use a prankster skill swap user (either mega shuppet, male meowstic or sableye) and a spore user (preferably amoonguss with regenerator), you use skillswap on your spore user and (starting in gen 8) inmediantly put one of the opponents to sleep. From there one you can put the enemy to sleep before they can use regular moves while a partner defeats them.
The reason I consider this a gimmick is because, as a powder, sleep inducing move with prankster priority, It gets stoped by:
-Grass type pokemon
-Overcoat
-Safety googles
-Insomnia
-Vital spirit
-Sweet veil
-Leaf guard on sun
-Safeguard
-Electric terrain
-Misty terrain
-Chesto berry
-Lum berry
-Dark type pokemon
-Quick guard
-Psyquic terrain
-Upper hand
-Dazzel
-Queenly Majesty
-Armor tail
-Good as gold
based meowstic pfp, also spore is really good even without prankster so the issue isn't immunities it's that you have to use a turn skill swapping and then can't switch out the spore user or you lose prankster
I'm impressed I only didn't know four of these
I've encountered quite a few when I was playing online