The TRAGIC DOWNFALL Of Andre Roberson
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- 게시일 2022. 12. 29.
- In his heyday, Andre Roberson was possibly the best defender in the entire NBA. Clamping up the hottest offensive superstars, Roberson was a starter on a western conference finals team despite averaging a whole 4.8 points that season and infamously being incapable of hitting a jump shot.
Still, despite his limitations on the offensive end, he was an extremely valuable piece to the Oklahoma City Thunder. That is, until disaster struck and he literally disappeared from the league.
Many of you will be surprised if I showed you this footage of Andre in a Brooklyn Nets uniform from 2 seasons ago, and many are still wondering where he is and what happened to him?
The tragic downfall of Andre Roberson deserves a deeper look, and in this video, we’ll do just that. What up everybody, my name is Stefan and this is Heat Check. Let’s get into it.
The loss of James Harden opened up a gigantic hole at the shooting guard position for the Thunder that they desperately tried to cover.
Thabo Sefalosha, a defensive minded guy who could hit a few shots here and there, was the team’s first attempt. Then there was Kevin Martin with his quirky release, a nice shooter actually.
Derek Fisher at the tail end of his career also spent some time in OKC.
Needless to say, none of these players were the perfect piece that superstars like Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook needed for a championship.
This is how Roberson as well got a chance in 16 in the starting lineup as the 26th pick in the draft.
The Thunder were testing out players and although he started getting regular minutes towards the end of the season, for the playoffs they knew they needed the experienced guys to make a deep run. So Andre did not play any meaningful minutes in the postseason.
In his sophomore year however in 2014-15 he got much more playing time and started in 65 games. Unfortunately, this was mostly because of Kevin Durant’s injury that forced him to miss a large portion of the season, as well as some missed games by Westbrook.
Still, Roberson used the opportunity that was given to him to showcase his defensive potential and his overall willingness to do all the dirty work on the court.
Against Denver he would have a game with only 8 points but also 8 rebounds, 5 assists and 3 blocks.
Or against Brooklyn when he scored only 4 points but dominated defensively with 2 steals and 4 blocks in just 21 minutes.
Despite barely missing out on the playoffs due to all those injuries, the Thunder sensed that they finally found the right starter to play along with Russ and KD.
One that would do all the screening, cutting, rebounding and especially defending the best player on the opposing team.
So that the 2 superstars can focus on what they do best- putting the ball in the basket.
And that’s exactly what happened in 2015-2016 as they both exploded.
Durant would get buckets on everyone and anyone. He was unguardable. Russ did everything and had 17 triple doubles that season, the beginning stages of the Westbrook supremacy that we know.
With all the attention on them, Andre Roberson had some of the easiest points of his career.
The Thunder would also run this action for him every single game. A misdirection pick and roll and with everyone focused on that, Andre cuts from the weak side for the alley oop dunk.
This was their bread and butter, as it offloaded the main guys, provided some points for a non shooter, and the fans absolutely loved it.
But that couldn’t mask the fact that Roberson struggled offensively.
As a career 25% three point shooter, that season he had some of the most wide open looks as everyone would double Russ and KD off of him. Even in this perfect scenario, he only slightly improved to 31%.
There were times when he would even pass up an open shot, so his teammates would get mad at him.
And the situation was even worse when it came to free throws.
Andre is a career 46.8% shooter from the foul line. An absolutely miserable percentage, that would mess with him so much that he would sometimes run around the court to avoid getting the hack a shaq treatment.
It was ugly watching his shooting woes.
But despite all of that, OKC still looked unstoppable that season. They got all the way to the brink of the finals and it took an iconic game, a superhuman effort from Klay Thompson in game 6, to deny them the chance to compete for a championship.
Shortly after, Durant infamously left and everything changed for this team.
This fully unlocked Russell Westbrook who went nuclear in that 2016-17 season and won the MVP. Seemingly it unlocked Andre Roberson as well, who played the best defense of his career and earned a spot on the second team all defense.
A lot of people think that there was a point where Roberson was up there with Kawhi Leonard as the best on ball defender in the league. But because of his quiet persona, he didn’t attract too much attention and didn’t get selected more often. - 스포츠
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Thank you for making videos about these guys who are so easily forgotten, they deserve it.
Love hove Stefan finds interesting issues that all the others miss.
The average skill level in the league has gotten so high that guys who are one-dimensional get played off the floor. Matisse Thybulle is similar. Unless you have four other guys on the floor who can generate points, the D-only guy is a liability. (And yes, the Nets can put those 4 other guys around Ben Simmons, plus he has great dribbling/fast break, passing and finishing skills).
@@David-iv6je ben Simmons sucks 😂😂
@@TruthSpeaker4 A starter for a team at .660 sucks? How's that work?
facts, andre roberson is a player more people should be talking about he was great for my thunder back in the day
Can’t believe this guy is getting a video made about him but in his prime he could lockdown anyone. When I was at a Thunder game he signed a basketball card I had of him. He’s a cool dude
@@ItIsYouAreNotYour locked down Rachel demita too
So good, he locked down himself on offense.
@@alexescutia4805 he pulled a baddie
I'm actually grateful it's not yemor"alt
I'm actually grateful it's not yemor"alt
The 2017-18 OKC lineup of Westbrook, Roberson, PG13, Melo and Steven Adams went 14-0 with a Defensive Rating of around 96 before Andre got injured. They played so few games together, but couldn't be beaten when they did so. Without Roberson, their Defensive Rating slumped to around 114.
I think if he was in the series will change a lot
You've got some outstanding story-telling skill, Stef! Quite an emotional 8+ minutes for me. I do wish him all the best.
💯
Energy guy and a true defense specialist. Reminds me of Gary Payton II and Bruce Brown, Dorts, Thybulle. With NBA though you have to develop multiple skills over the years. It's unfortunate how major injury could derailed players career like that of Jeremy Lin and Grant Hill. Injury can also diminish some players skills and athletism. It makes one look older than they really are once theyre back theyre never the same. The game involves some luck, opportunity and being top notch conditioned and management aside from the obvious taking care of their body.
Wow, that was impressive. Making a sentence with both Jeremy Lin and Grant Hill is insane.
He was actually miles ahead of the guys you named and would have been a serious dpoy candidate
Payton ll Brown and Dort have potential on the offensive end. Idk about Thybulle. I’m 76ers fans and sometimes I just want him gone.
that's why we should appreciate players that came back from major injuries like KD, PG, Hayward, Kobe, Rose, Lavine, etc.
Jeremy Lin's career was derailed by Carmelo Anthony long before he ever got injured.
One of the best videos made. Reasons why is because this isn't about a top tier talent from the NBA, a forgotten all star, or even big personas.
And also it breaks down the career and illustrates how good this dude was.
Keep up the good work man
Right on!
Not being about a big persona doesn't automatically make it one of the best videos made. It's a great video though
@@chicagoblackhawks9840 it's one of the best he's made. And to me finding another topic to talk about besides trade rumors and top talent always grabs my attention first.
@@jpowell6418 it might be but it being not about a big persona doesn't automatically make it one of the best. There are plenty of videos covering role players. I've seen a donte divincenzo, matisse thybulle, yuta watanabe, robert williams, and at least 4 duncan robinson videos. let's not act like basketball-centered youtubers didn't realize that people like analyses on role players in 2018.
Him, I.Thomas, Jeremy Lin, and Brandon Roy Will never be forgotten.😢
OKC is quite the most heartbreaking team for me, because of the potential they could have been, Andre is one of those guys loved by us OKC fans especially in those solo Westbrook runs, Roberson really clamped the opposition's best player, feel sad for him
This dude really did fall off. He’s basically just Matisse Thybulle before Matisse Thybulle
Mattise has a shot he can improve on at least
@@ricanLegend2003 yeah but recently he's getting less minutes which is sad seeing it
@@ricanLegend2003 so did Andre roberson
@@ricanLegend2003 nah he's unplayable on offense when it matters imagine Ben Simmons been 6' 7" and no creative talent
Horrific
@@adriancomia6618 doc rivers is a below average stubborn coach, he plays old, slow, washed guys like Montez Harrell, over guys like Paul reed and mattise
I've been waiting for videos about defensive players. Great vid, i love it. Its sad that the injury took away a few solid prime years from him.
Bro I COMPLETELY forgot about dude. Dude's defense was insane but that damn offense was atrocious 😭
Amazing video i enjoyed the storytelling so much. Keep it up my man.
Love how the caption has such a quality info! THANKS for taking the time for that!
I'm from Colorado and got to meet Andre when he was playing college for the Buffs
And as an OKC fan I was super excited when we drafted him too
Went down to OKC for a game and he took a picture with me, he's a cool dude, was sad to see him go down with that injury and fizzle out of the league. But him coming back in the bubble was a sweet moment for us OMC fans.
I'm glad you made this video. Greatly done.
I remember watching that game vs the Pistons when Andre got injured, it feels like yesterday, and then when he came back after almost 2-3 years it was too late, I feel sorry for him.
Good job on making video and getting information about forgotten NBA players.
he shot 25% from 3pt and all those shots were wide open after an assist from his teammates. He couldnt create anything for himself and couldnt drive to the rim with the ball. Also shot less then 50% free throws. No matter how good you can play defense in todays game you are just a huge liability on the other side of the court and your team has to basically play 4vs5.
Similar thing with Boban , he has great stats for his minutes but he cant defend anyone and he gets destroyed in pnr all the time. Just cant play guys like that in todays NBA.
As much as people make fun of people for not playing defense, it should be fair for people not playing offense 😂
@@JJuiicceee Defense is more about desire and effort, while offense takes more skill.
Nah he always had the most steals and blocks on that Thunder team in 2017 other than Russ, and he shot 41% on 3 in that series in 2017, he coulda developed into a PJ Tucker kinda role but NBA gave up on him
@@namos3369 2 blocks or steals wont make up for all the issues he makes for his team on offense every possesion.
Tucker was always a solid 3pt shooter on twice as many shots per game then roberson. Roberson best season he shot 24% on 2.3 attempts per game
@@MrCROAT90 if that OKC thunder team had more offensive weapons we wouldn’t be looking at their best defender, just look at someone like Tony Allen, has the same shooting % as Robertson
It's really sad, I always liked him. To your point about defensive specialists. Look at Thybulle from the 6ers. I don't get it why he isn't playing more. I hope he finds a new team that could use him. Like the Hornets. They have no defense. Even in Portland he could be a solid piece. Would like to see him in a Spurs jersey as well one day. We could use him. Or the Magic.
thybulle offense is just so bad bro. hes a liability
coz there are 3ND guys, tho tbh if they slack practicing those shots (percentage going low) and other teams expose them by sagging off then they get benched as they become a liability.
@@brendanhunter389
Meh, he could still be a good fit on the right team. You have a couple guys on a roster that do whatever they want, everyone else just has to play a role.
Like f as a Warriors fan id be glad if traded for Thybulle or hell even sign Roberson because our bench can’t play defense for shit!
@@brendanhunter389 send him to the nugget let jokic show you how to use him
I remember back when the Thunder had an insane line up (Prime Russ, PG13, Carmelo, Adams and Roberson), they destroyed the Warriors superteam but then Roberson got that injury and the Thunder was done! That show how important he was on that team.
Same. I honestly believe him not being there is what hurt that team the most
Destroyed is such a hyperbolic statement. They won some games against a team that would’ve torched them anyway is what you’re trying to say.
@@gunjac86 they beat the shit out Golden State lol Kd had his way tho... Roberson made it to where Russ & Pg wherr help side defenders
I think they had a 9-0 record (not accurate) but was a really good record when they were all on the floor together
Honestly, no memes, he was my favorite role player through the years to watch (Along with Tacko, Terrance Ferguson, and Andre Ingram). He gave is all on every possession on defense and any team needed a guy like him. I hope that players like Thybulle and Patrick Williams can get close to him, but they need to stay healthy. Dort and Bruce Brown have been good at it, too (With better offense as well)
Terrance Ferguson? He was trash
Sefolosha started over harden
I almost forgot about Terrance Ferguson 🔥.
Great video! I was a fan of that OKC team and watched the game where he got injured. Always hoped he could build on his game.
Thank you for giving my man some love.
Roberson saw this vid and thought, "and I took that personally."
He's back with the Thunder organization
I'm glad you made this vid. I was wondering what happened to him. I would watch Andre Roberson and Jordan Clarkson play at Wagner my freshman year 2009
Been thinking on this guy!! Superb documentary thx!!
I remember when he guarded Kobe in 2012 and 2013, he was such a persistent dude. I thought they were for sure gonna get a ring that year with him locking down the star of the other team.
I’ve been waiting for this video for a long time now
The league has gone almost completely focused on offense. That's the reason we had trouble against other countries in the Olympics. There is no room for defensive specialists here, sadly.
nba teams are so demanding, if you're a defensive role player then you should also have decent 3pt/FT percentage a.k.a 3ND, otherwise you get benched because team will expose you and sag off of you then your star will get doubled all the time.
The days of the Bruce Bowens, Tony Allen, Ben wallace, Ron artest...are over. They forgot how to play defense in nba, they just don't play any defense. And you're right it was painfully obvious in the Olympics, besides durant everyone else was shut down. Foreign players like Luka and giannis saying how it's easy to score in nba
@@metalsadman Meanwhile there’s Gobert, Claxton, Capela, etc.
@@AC-nx7qr the league is shifting more towards offensive big men. Jokic, Embiid, AD. Giannis is the exception to the rule because he gives you his all in both ends of the floor.
No the league moved away from people who are complete zeros on offense, yes he's gonna be a good defender but then your playing 4 on 5 on the other end. If he could just shoot around league average from 3 he'd still be around.
Thanks for this video, I literally did the same injury on court taking off from the right side of the hoop going up for a putback dunk. I think in retrospect i was lucky, i tried to stand up after i did it and tore my quads off the bone. I think this made my surgery easier as i was back playing 9/10 months later. But 10 years later i'm still having physio for associated problems with the knee, so i can understand why he was never able to get back to 100%. I don't think people really understand how serious this injury is or how difficult the surgery and recovery are
Good content bro. Im a long time fan
His shooting was atrociously bad. Thunder really should have waived him when he got injured the first time.
The narrator spinning and gripping the ball really adds to the credibility of this video in a way I can't express... Subscribed!
The only thing possibly more demoralizing than getting posterized is getting blocked. Steals too. They can adversely affect a team’s momentum. And tip the scales in favor of better defense.
Really enjoyed his game since his days at Colorado it’s a shame he could never figure out his jump shot to make him and even better player and especially able to recover from the injuries , great vid bro
Idk if it's the abundance of facts or the interesting accent but I love these videos! 🔥💯
I'm in the PT World and ruptured my Patellar tendon just under 2 months before Andre did. It's a brutal injury and takes a while to recover from. It's been 5 years and I have decided my true running days are behind me. I can do everything else in life besides run. I feel for Andre because rupturing a tendon sucks. I just hope he was able to get his money while he good and has a functional life without too many issues with his knee.
One of my favorite players all time. Doesn't care about anything just goes in game sacrifices his body in defense for the dub. Sadly, his career was cut short
One of my Favorite RussellGoatBrook Teammates 🤝
bc he blew a 3-1 lead in 2016 by not guarding klay in game 6 and not shooting well
@@hawks19_65 Agreed on the Shooting Dude used to b 7/11 In the Corner but they were running my Manes off with hella Hard Picks that were foul calls💯🤷🏾♂️
Man, Andre was one of the things that made me stick to that 2012 OKC team, it’s what got me into basketball in general. Hope the guys doing good.
it's crazy he managed that when he was drafted in 2013
@@jacobbell8171 i think he's referring to thr fact that well robersons addition made him remain a okc fan
@@jacobbell8171 My bad then, it was the 2013 season. My memory isn’t the best.
He banging Rachel Demita. If you ask me, he doing pretty good.
And I thought I was the only one that thought of him recently. Great video.
Amazing you found video of the only 2 shots that DFish made in his OKC tenure!!
Thank you, may God bless you, him and everyone. ❤
Pistons fan here. I remember that game where he slipped on the wet floor. I felt bad for him because I could tell with the eye ball test he was different on the defensive end. You have to respect the defensive hustle despite whatever offensive limitations he has. Reminds me of Ben Wallace in that regard.
Also a pistons fan and I love Andre Roberson because he reminds me so much of not only Ben Wallace, he reminds me of the defenders of the past eras
Happy to hear that he was signed with the OKC blue. I feel the comeback and get excited.
This story really shows us fans how hard it is to perform and stay healthy, and the grind it takes to stay in the most elite basketball league in the world.
You have a great channel
I think this absolute proof about how the game has changed. Now you've gotta be a two way player and not just be strong on one side. He was great and its sad to see him go on a downward spiral due to injuries
Good vid
I think you have to be a 3 and D guy nowadays if you want to really excel in that role. If you cant shoot corner 3s you're a liability on offence and makes it harder for your team to score. Which kind of offsets the production you get defensively.
I don’t see why people are mad if someone can shoot and play defense then why play a guy who can only play defense it doesn’t make sense. Offense is more important then defense and more then ever now that everyone needs to be able to shoot
Wow. I love your video
This dude was with Rachel Demita bro was at least ballin off the court
You cover the best shit bro. True entertaining basketball content. you gonna have a milly subs in no time my boy. Its honestly insane how good you are at picking topics and covering them well.
Dope dude
He was a beast defensively but that knee injury was just brutal. Remember seeing it live, wish him luck in whatever he's doing
he is now representing the philippines in Dubai basketball cup
As an OKC fan, I salute you for this video.
he will always be one of my favorite players. those OKC teams were very special
i would love to see a video like this for danny granger,
he was a walking bucket in his prime and just got immediately forgotten about.
one of the best players i've ever seen play.
And Roy Hibbert too
@@losttyrant7482 Hibbert didn't get injured, he just got shit. No one talks about him because he had a couple of good years and then was awful. Sort of like Deandre Jordan but in a much shorter timespan
I actually underrated this guy when he was playing. I knew him as a decent defender with some shooting ability and didn't pay too much attention to him, but looking here dude was more athletic than I thought and shows quite a bit of potential if a coach figured out the right system for him. Watching from Kenya 🇰🇪
As someone who also loved playing defense and suffered a horrible knee injury, it's just so tough to come back from. If only injuries weren't a thing.
Rachel was his comfort during those recovery days 😂
forgotten elite defender good video mate
Had the same injury and even 1.5 years later it still dont feel the same. Its a nasty injury. The doc said ur knee pretty much exploded. If you have the stomach for it, watch the surgery to repair it on KRplus. Another famous athlete who had a patella tendon rupture was R9 (Ronaldo Nezario) and he never looked the same after it
Roberson is the kind of guy you want on a contending basketball team. Roberson was an outstanding defender dude never gave up even when he was beat and would always hustle on both ends of the court. It’s a shame that injury set him back. Nowadays this league is an offensive game and Roberson being strictly a defensive player, teams don’t give chances to guys like that anymore hopefully he gets another shot
I agree with you. In today's NBA a player has to have multiple skills if they want to stay in the league.
More videos about forgotten players please
Im an Thunder fan and boy we miss him. Tje love that the whole city had for him was real bro , we appreciate everything he did. Sad to see him like this
i think everybody in the past week collectively remembered this guy
That was such a sick intro with the ball spin lol
I had the same injury back in 2019 down in Austin playing. Came down on a wet spot on the floor and it was a wrap. After a year off and physical rehab I’m back hooping now 🤙🏾🤙🏾🏀🏀🏀
Seen bruh at Lifetime a couple times. I always feel bad for him.
Real humble dude!
As a Thunder fan I was so mad when he finally was “healthy” he left for the nets 😢 It was so sad the Thunder were actually starting to click together until Andre got injured.
He didn't leave, the Thunder didn't sign him
This made me realize to be good at least at making free throws. Improving my shooting while also focusing on defense during pickup games
In modern NBA, players need to be able to score and defend just to have a roster spot. Especially for contending teams.
Ofc can’t be a one trick pony as a pro ball player
damn bro you didn't even mention his greatest accomplishment bagging the 2k girl rachel😭😭
As an OKC fan I loved this guy
I did too but when it came to closeour games and he kept getting fouled it hurt to see
He can’t shoot free throws as a shooting guard wtf
Another choker in crucial, kd didnt deserve that kind of player.
BROTHER THIS GUY MADE ME FALL IN LOVE WITH DEFENSE. I SAW HIM LOCK UP EVERY ALL STAR GURD LIKE IT WAS NO ONES BUSINESS
Got me so emotional. A career and life taken away by a natural cause. I pray for him to heal and be happy 😭
About a month ago I winder where Robinson is and was surprised he's out of the league and even played for Brooklyn.
Really was a defensive dynamo. A times, he was like Tony Allen with height.
one of my fav players.
His injury is career ending, Im dealing with the same exact injury now 4 weeks post op. It’s absolutely hell. Terrible luck for Andre. He was a baller.
People talk about the ACL, but the worst knee injury is injuring the patellar tendon. I snapped my patellar tendon and I needed emergency surgery right away or I wouldn’t walk normally. I know people that have injured their ACL in the same manner and went months before surgery.
It’s one thing to have a D Rose knee injury, it’s a whole different thing to have a Bynum (in this case Roberson) injury.
One of my favorite players to study. I hope he finds success offcourt.
Most overlook by majority of the media, scouts and coaches.. as todays setup focuses more on offense and flexibility on positions..
I hope more of those defensive specialist would be recognize and given a chance and also a spotlight as well..
Make a video on how incredibly underrated Nicolas Batum was
He played for the Philippines recently at dubai tournament last month. Huge respect for this guy. 🇵🇭
If the NBA style of play was liked in the early 1990s today then maybe Andre Roberson will probably still be in the NBA. The reason is that in that time a team really need two scorers in their starting lineup and the rest of the starters need to play defense. At that time the NBA was more defensive oriented while the today's NBA is more offensive oriented. Today every starter need to put up points.
Gotta have a serviceable 3 and FT, at least. He still has time to get back. Hoping for the best for this dude.
I love this guy honestly. I believe he is one of those players who doesn't scores a lot but defensively he can locked down superstars in any team. He now plays for Philippine team and the Filipino's love him so much. Andre if you read this, you got this mate🙂
I feel like this type of players fits really well on a heavy scoring big 3 in the line up just like what OKC have during kd Russ and harden. Andre really did well although some team will always exposed his weakness of terrible shooting
Free throw shooting is what really derailed him. Teams started to just hack him down the stretch in close games. So he was just hurting you on offense.
It's kinda funny and annoying at the same time that pretty much prime KD and Russ had to play with two major offensive none-factors in Roberson and Perkins. When they were on the floor, I always felt like it was literally 4 against 5 on the offense for OKC.
roberson was good for them in 2016, if he wasn't there, thunder may have lost to spurs or lost to warriors in 5-6 games, go and watch the full games if you don't believe me, perkins sucked though
@@theonlygoodonehere2259I never said he was bad overall. He simply was a black hole on O and who knows how would they fare if they someone then ho could consistently hit threes. They tried with Martin and Morrow but they were smaller and couldn't defend well. Perk was barely moving lol.
@@bowdownclown thats the point, you can't find another guy who locks down warriors on the defensive end accurately but shoot 3s, even then when thunder had spacing issues in that series, some of the guys still took the 3 pointers and knocked some down, how do you think they took them to 7, durant did it all by himself? if that was the case they would have gotten swept, because kd is a scoring stats guy, and doesn't elevate his team like that
Underrated player for his defense. I miss those OKC days.
In 2k21, this guy was your best friend if you made a MyLeague. Hope he’s doing okay, humble guy
Just imagine how much $ he could of made had he been able become a spot up shooter with like 35% from 3. 3&D type...
You covered this story tremendously well. I miss Roberson. But good thing the OKC Blue picked him up and hopefully he’ll be back in a Thunder uniform soon ✊💙
ugh 😑 a guy like Robert doesn’t deserve that kind of injury while Ben Simmons had all the talent and big contract but never wants to improve himself.
Fam the way he fell out of the league showed me it doesn’t matter how good of a defender you are if you can’t do anything else you’re screwed
Dennis Rodman?
@@darrylturner3731 one of the greatest rebounders ever is your example??
@@BigPurp9 Your original comment was like saying you need both offense and defense so I say Dennis Rodman because he was terrible offensively but his good defense kept him successful.
It was about the injury not that. He couldn't play defense like he used to
@@darrylturner3731 na he was sayn u can’t just PLAY DEFENSE! Especially gaurdn only 1-3 maybe 4
That build was something unique, unreal defender
One of favorite defensive players eva🔥
I miss this guy. We was the Thunder's best perimeter defender during the Westbrook and Durant era in the 2010's...
If he learned how to shoot they would’ve won the chip
On Carrer mode Nba2k13/14 i would always trade for this guy, great perimeter defender..