Do Mythical Pokémon Foreshadow the Next Generation? + 9th Gen Predictions | Gnoggin
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Here's a Pokemon Game Theory: Do Mythical Pokemon give us hints to where the next games will take place? Or what the story or gimmick of the next game might be? Do Mythical Pokemon foreshadow the next generation? Perhaps! A quick example: Volcanion references volcanos, and Hoopa makes wormholes, then Pokemon Sun and Moon take place on volcanic islands and are about Ultra Wormholes! This idea may apply to most of the Mythical Pokemon: Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxsys, Manaphy, Phione, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus, Victini, Keldeo, Meloetta, Genesect, Diancie, Hoopa, Volcanion, Magearna, Marshadow, Zeraora, Meltan and Melmetal. But then, what can Zarude possibly be hinting at with gen 9?
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Chapters:
00:00 What is a Mythical Pokemon?
01:20 Magic Spoon!
02:30 Did Alola's Mythical Pokemon Hint to Sword and Shield?
07:32 Did Kalos' Mythical Pokemon Hint to Sun and Moon?
09:23 Did Unova's Mythical Pokemon Hint to Pokemon X and Y?
12:40 Did Sinnoh's Mythical Pokemon Hint to Black and White?
17:20 Did Hoenns' Mythical Pokemon Hint to Diamond and Pearl?
18:35 Did Celebi Hint to Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire?
19:14 Did Mew Hint to Pokemon Gold and Silver?
20:06 Does Zarude Tell us about Gen 9?
23:52 Outroduction
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If Gen 9 turns out to be a Brazillian/Indian Region, I'm going to think Lockstin is actually a Psychic Type Pokemon all along
Honestly it's a great guess I'm sure there is alot of Pokemon that can come out of those places
As a Brazilian I really hope they do it
@@airplanes_aren.t_real as a Brazilian, concordo com vc mano
@@mateusgabrielrodrigues6645 olá br
As an Englishman I can pretend to be Brazilian cause KRplus translates comments now
There is also a numbered-theme going on with the main mythical of each generation too. Mew 1 tail, Celebi 2 antennae, Jirachi 3 wishtags, Manaphy 4 yellow eye lashes, Victini has a V for roman numeral 5, Diancie has 6 head crystals, Magearna 7 tips of its dial, Zarude 8 arm bangles
Just as this video, it seems far-fetched at first, but, when you think about it... well noticed!
That seems really cool!
That's an excellent observation
That's an amazing observation. Keen eyes
seems the next mythical is a 9 tailed deity pokemon? could it be?
So Zarude's relation to South America could be a reference to the explorers and conquerors from Spain. Like a rare species that was discovered.
You were right but no one believed you
Damn. Predicted and outplayed. GG good sir.
Bro predectited its
Regidrago and Regieleki: past and future (paradox forms)
Calyrex forms: riding the legendary
But those aren’t mythical pokemon so it doesn’t really help support this theory. It could still be foreshadowing though
@@IJC039 there’s someone down here who theorized that Urshifu’s forms hinted at Arceus’s move mastering, so maybe the DLC legends were telling us something.
@@SandwitchZebra yeah that does make sense. Maybe they’re doing it with certain legendaries now? Im sure zarude pretty much proves the mythical theory wrong, because I don’t see how it fits into paldea.
@@IJC039 The connection I see Zarude having is the Amazon rainforest, which is in Brazil. The main language of Brazil is Portuguese and it has a lot of connections to both Spain and Portugal.
@@NoivernPlays-v.2 i mean it does make sense, but it’s still a bit of a stretch. Also say every mythical did hint to the next region. I feel like it would make more sense for the region to be directly based off of Brazil. You do make a good point however.
My biggest takeaway from this video is that there were still so many Pokémon I didn't know existed.
Hi Arlo
Arlo!!!
To be fair, we are going to see 1,000 Pokemon before this decade is half over, so forgetting some of them is inevitable
If "Redwood" was anything to go by, then Gen IX's region will either be based on California or China.
👋 Just got done watching your OLED video 👋
8:00
I was just waiting for Lockstin to point out how Diancie is just a variant form of Carbink and that it hints towards regional forms
Surprised he didn't say how Diancie has literal z crystal shaped gems on her
@@Wynorrific did you even watch cuz dude did bring that up
@@jacob7818 i think he meant like, commenting about how theres literally a z crystal on diancie chest, in the video he just says about how diancie has crystals
I never thought of that. Thats really smart!
Lockstin, I was thinking about it, and maybe others have realized it too, but Urshifu's single strike and rapid strike styles were a huge hint at Legends: Arceus's strong style and agile style. Also, Urshifu 99.99% being a Sinnoh mon originally. It ties together.
Oh my god...
the question is: now that we know what gen 9 is what would this mean for that?
@@Brass319 getting a feeling Gen 9 is a soft reboot for a lot of plot stuff, so I wouldnt be surprised if it breaks a lot of previous fan theories or cycles. Very very excited tho to see what lore bleeds into it from previous gens.
urshifu does look like a gen 4 pokemon to me anyway.
also, Zarude is like the wild. Hisui is mostly wilderness.
I mean...we can kinda stretch Zarude's connection to Gen 9's confirmed location in Spain since they did colonize a big chunk of South America (lots of jungles)
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I guess????? That's a stretch and half
@@bestleefboigrafaiai is based mostly on an African primate though
As of Mew being a gen 2 tease, I propose the following: Gen 1 was all about catching the 150 first Pokémon. Mew being a "secret" number 151 could be a tease of a "bigger" world with even more new Pokémon to be discovered.
Cool theory but what's been revealed to the public is that Mew was a late addition made by one of the programmers without asking anybody. And since "Mewtwo" is a play on "mutant" I even think there wasn't even intent to make Mew a real pokemon. Like they came up with the cool name Mewtwo, than laughed how it sounds like Mew-2, like if Mew was a thing, and than one of the developers were thinking like: "wait, we can make Mew a thing..."
@@ldmtag Wait, wasn't the name 'Mew' trademarked by GF all the way in 1990?
@@Punaparta if it is than my thoughts are wrong
The current storyline follows that mewtwo was created from a fossil of Mew because it was believed that Mew was extinct, so mewtwo was technically discovered before Mew was discovered to still be in existence, hence how Mew came after mewtwo.
Lockstin talking about Magearna: >completely ignores the fact it has his own movie<
Lockstin talking about Hoopa: "there was the movie about his origin"
uh look at the comment lockstin commented
Another thing he forgot is steampunk. All the gears and the Victorian maid appearance screams steampunk. ESPECIALLY, it's bronzy shiny.
He also forgot how Meltan/Melmetal is not in the important Gen 7 Games(SM & USUM).
Appearing for first time in PoGo and then being in LgP&LgE...and finally getting the special form in the Gen 8
>Magearna
>his
@@RikkuTakanashi, and the fleur does not specifically relate to fleur-de-lis, it could just be french for flower
Watching this after Scarlet/Violet...
There's Tagtree Thicket, is the closest thing we got to a "Jungle/Forest~" that Zarude could be from(?)
Could be why it's so evil and territorial, Grafaiai keep painting it?
It’s a dead theory unfortunately
If the Amazon rainforest is used I would like a feature of “discovering” new Pokémon, and the Pokédex will change numbers actively until you have seen and “discovered” all Pokémon
I love this!
Using this idea, and how the Pokedex is going to work in legends, and the mythical Pokemon could symbolize evolution of man, it honestly really fits for Pokemon Arceus too instead of straight up gen 9. Maybe that's why they haven't released more because they are waiting to see if gen 9 will be like the previous Pokemon games or like the new Legends game?
Is legends arceus gen 9 idk how the Gen's work
@@No-Community1380 I thought I knew but I don't anymore
@@No-Community1380 a new generation means a new list of completely new original pokemon
areceus has region variants of older existing pokemon (hisuan starters, hisuan growlithe,etc.)
"Thanksgiving, an exclusively American holiday."
Meanwhile, here my Canadian self's chewing on yesterday's turkey.
Fun fact: Canada is in America
(also pretty much the US in the eyes of everyone living outside of America)
@@lonk2902 Yes, very good.
Though technically, Canadian Thanksgiving is for a completely different reason than Thanksgiving in the US.
@@Retro_Red Yes, but that wasn't what i was trying to joke about
@@lonk2902 if you’re talking about the semantic different between America and North America, you’re right. But then you’re being semantic and pedantic, and that’s always pathetic.
I got an interesting argument for why Zarude points more to South America than India: one of the recurring plots of the current season of the anime is Ash's companion Go trying to join an operation called Project Mew, which as the name implies is an expedition effort to look for Mew, and where does Mew lore say it was sighted in gen 1? The jungles in South America gg
I Don’t think pokemon is that Smart but I agree
Honestly introducing new Regis in Aztec temples and pyramids would be so cool.
Being Of South American descent…I really really want a SA generation. Imagining some Pokémon based on Aztec or Incan mythology or some tropical and jungle based Pokémon would be sick .
@@tlaloqq We already got sigilyph, based on the Nazca lines.
Mew was in Guyana, that is pretty close to Brazil.
It’s possible the theory with Zarude COULD still be somewhat plausible since there’s actually some pretty big forests in Spain. Zarude’s control over plant matter could also allude to a potential plot point or legendary Pokémon that will appear in the next gen.
Look at the starters they also hint at forest, with cats (the grass starter) possibly being related to maybe tigers? And the fire starter possibly related to crocodiles! The water starter tho...
@@eondrago955 Quaxly is a Conquistador
It seems to hint towards the past/ future being that the movie was about the future/technology killing the past/nature. And it is smarter than the average Pokémon and is still primal in some way
@@smallentales317 how did you both get it right
@@halfshinesketches i know this comment section aged well
Let’s see how close this gets to Pokémon Violet and Scarlet
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Zarude fits in with scarlet and violet
@@manuelariza829 it doesn't at all
@@Rohit-iz5wz I mean yes from what we know now but their still a chance it can make sense
spain (and Portugal) are the only countries in europe with monkeys so maybe he just got it wrong
Celebi was part of the giveaway with Zarude, so a forest region for Gen 9 is only strengthend
Or jungle
Or it's back in time in the jungle and refers to legends
@@Superchiefable i agree, but the premise is that it hints at the next generation, not the game. But gamefreak is also known for throwing wild cards (Ie. BW2 and USUM) so no one knows for certain
I think a jungle themed south american/north american vibe 🤔
@@humanoidfrog4645 We don't have jungle's in North America, but we do have some forests tho.
It's probably also worth noting that Keldeo's color scheme reflects the colors of the French flag.
(Although to be fair, there are many, MANY red-white-blue flags).
Like the American flag… which Keldeo is based in. Not saying it’s not a point, but kinda a redundant one
I mean, the three musketeers... fair enough
I can confirm...
Your last prediction aged somewhat poorly, since the new region is in Spain, but the forest connections are still there, so the theory itself isn’t broken. I wonder if the DLC legendaries of sw/sh can connect to Spain in some way
Tbf Spain colonised South America, home to the Amazon. Still kinda a stretch
Spain and Latin America, speaks Spanish n Portuguese so, he's not that far
Spain has monkeys
Dont forget gen 9 is based on the whole iberian peninsula so also portugal
And portugal were the ones to colonise brazil so i think it can still work
The last prediction was about being out in the wilds catching Pokémon, so could’ve been a hint at legends 🤪
darkrai could also be a reference to the “American dream,” with cresellia being the good parts of it, and darkrai being the worse parts of it
I definitely agree with the gen 6 mythicals. The game was already hinting at Alola because it had the relic thing from another region (don't quite remember what it's called) that turned out to be from alola.
Also, weird side note, the NPC who gives you it talks about his region's pokemon champion, but alola didn't have a champion yet, because Sun and Moon take place after X and Y (we even meet characters from X&Y in them). I'd mostly chalk this up to them not having the story down fully
Is there any odd item in SwSh that does nothing and hints at something?
I believe it was a tapu idol that was given to the player and that's exactly how it links up to alola games.
It might be that the XY games take place after the sun and moon games? But that's just a theory.
@@ManaPower027 do you have any evidence to support this theory ? Cause this is the first time I'm hearing of this and it seems interesting enough to hear out what possible evidence(s) point towards this.
@@ManaPower027 Nope. Characters from X&Y are in Sun and Moon and are older
I like how this both seems perfectly reasonable AND also seems like an insane conspiracy theory, at the same time. Lmao. I think you're probably onto something in general, but it might not even be intentional. Like, they probably design new mythical pokemon at the same time as they begin the process of brainstorming for the next region. So, it might be a total coincidence that mythicals happen to have a similar theme to the following game, if you get what I mean.
maybe it started that way, then it evolved
Possibly, like maybe while making Gen 7, designers were like “woah, Volcanos are pretty cool, we should make a new volcano Pokémon that’s better than Camerupt”
After 15 years , this is basically a fact. Not some conspiracy bs people like to believe. Everything adds up & like he said : they may have not started that way for mythical portraying future gens, it ended up that way.
Great Idea! I had similar one but not quite the same: they make mythical pokemon to suit the next region because mythicals are distributed late when everyone have already completed the game so they box them and than use in the next generation. But now my theory is falling apart
Thing is Nintendo has stated they use designs in future generations that they designed during past generations. Tirtouga is a Gen 5 pokemon, but pretty sure Nintendo said the original design came from a discarded Gen 1 design. So it’s not like this theory that designs are in some way linked should even be a surprise. Nintendo already said they revisit design concepts they made up during previous Generations
Magerna was created before gen 7. It had its own movie in Gen 6, but wasn’t added to the Pokédex and games until Gen 7, it also was in the the XY TCG. So the Flora cannon would make sense to write off as Gen 6. So you can remove the issue with France with that.
Watching this now I realize that the Zarude totally was meant to say that gen 9 would be open world like when he said that it might mean surviving out on your own
Also, Victini's schtick in-universe seems to be giving those it likes a magical power boost of some kind.
Now doesn't that sound familiar... what was X and Y's gimmick again?
Add to that being designed around a letter of the alphabet.
I never thought of this wow
Megas ash greninja and primals all from gen 6 are magical boost
@@kannan07 I think Japanese people just have a fetish for rocks with magical powers
@@vitkien ash greninja doesn't have anything to do with rocks tho🤣
But I agree, everything is related to Rocks,mega stones,z crystals and wishing stars🤣
Edit:- Ash greninja DOES have to do with rocks cuz the Ninja village is in a mountain filled with rocks🤣
And that's where he first unlocked is🤣
And after V… comes X and Y.
(and W but let’s just ignore that lol)
There is of course the theory that Magearna was intended to be a gen 6 Mythical Pokemon, rather than a gen 7 one. Since it was in the Volcanion movie and all, and has those French references. I didn't touch on it in the video because that'd be a theory on top of a theory, and also it doesn't support it. 🙃
Magearna is after Necrozma in the dex, it's a gen 7 mythical. Legendaries and mythicals cross generations in movies all the time. Hoopa's, Genesect's, Zeraora's and Marshadow's movies for instance.
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you should make a video explaining every shiny in ur kaskade region, i’ve been asking for like 7 months now and ik you can’t read every comment but i’m begging you
ITS CALLED ARCOOS!!
@@wanderbyte4744 no its not stop spreading misinformation!
Great vid. Hopefully u try again when more mythic come out
Zarude actually feels like it would suit the teal mask dlc for scarlet and violet huh
I’m kinda surprised he didn’t mention anything about the “American dream” while talking about Darkrai
Beginning of this made me realise how ironic it is that I’ve always wanted a Pokémon game based off the country I live in and when they make a region based off the UK they don’t include Wales
They could at least have included Welsh cakes and names so unpronounceable to foreigners that they just no longer bother trying to say them and instead resort to "That one weird Welsh place"
Or Ireland
@@drunkmagicman3234 Ireland isn’t part of the UK but considering how they probably won’t go make an Ireland region now fair point
@@YourKingPyro it is, what your thinking about is the south but Northern Ireland is part of the uk. Mate why do ya think the troubles happened
@@drunkmagicman3234 yeah but Ireland as a whole isn’t gonna be part of the uk
Me, very much an Ecuadorian person: * jokingly expecting Lockstin might say Ecuador*
Lockstin: "But what I think is more intersting is Ecuador"
*PROCEEDS TO SCREEAM*
You are not the only one......
Same but I'm from india
Same
When you said that he could be referencing living on your own in the wild, I first thought of the open world gimmick Pokémon arceus has.
Guess zarude and urshifu was the hint for legends Arceus. Being an forest area and the two style of strong and agile. While the legends Arceus has a hint about the past and its future counter part, is sinnoh which is future name's called.
Legends Arceus itself referenced the time theme of SV
I'd love one set in Brazil. That way, since Mew was originally from South America, it could be a full circle kinda deal before doing something completely different again.
That would be cool for a Gen 10 thing
wait it is? how do we know
@@myboi364 in the first movie or a special they said they found mew in SA
@@omivnr3858 huh I didn’t know that
@@omivnr3858 I believe a diary in the Mansion on Cinnabar Island also mentions it
Adding to the Sinnoh mythical ideas, Darkrai / Cresselia have their own event in Unova and Arceus rules/ruled Dialga Palkia and Giratina, those three representing the three common states of matter, solid liquid and gas respectively. Arceus would then tie it up to the fourth state, Plasma - remind you of anything from Unova?
I honestly don't consider Plasma as a state of matter of its own but a "sub-state" of the gaseous one(its gas with free-flowing electrons) So I think there are still only 3 states of matter.
@@AlldaylongRock yeah ut it kinda doesn't matrer what we think about it since its officially accepted as a 4th state of matter by all sciencists acriss the world
Where are they used to represent states of matter? The whole thing about them is creation trio with time space and antimatter. If you were basing it off their typing then how would ghiratina be considered gaseous?
@@unknownSM100 It is based on their typing. Dialga - Steel (solid), Palkia - Water (liquid), Giratina - Ghost (gas).
@@AllegraVivace That's also one hell of a stretch
If you want to stretch REALLY hard u can say Darkrai and Cresselia the Dream gimmick pokemon can refer to the American Dream since the region in Gen 5 is based on the United States
For Gen 3, their promotional material for gen 4 started very early and was very heavy handed. Munchlax, Bonsly, and Mime jr I think even showed up in the anime and all appeared in the spinoffs. Especially prominent was Lucario, who was treated like a mythical pokemon in the anime and spinoffs.
“Mythical” is the correct phrase when talking about how much gamefreak cares about the lore
What
I disagree, applying Bayers theorom, it seems GameFreak and Pokémon co. think more about tge interconnectivity than most people give them credit for.
@@dallinmoody1297 idek what hes implying. But they certainly dont care about lore it's just created accidentally by deep MONSTER DESIGN, a very different topic
@@dallinmoody1297 Nintendo fans are really easy to please when it comes to what they consider deep lore since theyve never played a real rpg lol
@@gromczar1589 are you good? I simply stated that gamefreak doesn’t seem to have a simple to grasp storie and you’re going to write a paragraph on how Nintendo fans don’t know what a story is?
I’d love an expansive jungle setting for Gen 9. Make it feel more like a biological and archaeological survey, similar to Legends Arceus, but with modern technology.
@Mynameisirrelevant I mean that's basically what Legends: Arceus is. The fact it's "Legends: ___" probably means we'll get more Legends games while the main series games stick to the tradional Pokemon style
@Mynameisirrelevant you need to understand why its empty ,why there is only Jubilife city. The story explains it
@@Wynorrific they will add elements from LA to gen 9 with traditional style
I hope its open world like arceus, BUT still have usual turn based battle style and have ability come back. So we can finally have next gen competitive pokemon game
@@roshandinesh6701 why is it? Why its empty? Spoiler please, since i dont play it anyway
Regidraco and Regieleki seem to have predicted gen 9
The Regis are based off of time periods: Regirock, Regice, and Registeel represent the Stone Age, Ice age, and Iron Age, while Regidraco and Regieleki represent medieval and modern times
Being a Brazilian, i really like the idea of gen 9 being based of Brazil, we have so much variety in fauna and flora!
Arriba españaaaa
should mention Meloetta's relic song tale mentions how it lost it's slippers, similar to the fairy tale of Cinderella where a girl loses her slippers upon a magical spell being undone, and even the prince forgets her identity until he uses the slipper to find her. This fairy tail originates from Europe and the popular Disney adaptation portrays Cinderella specifically as a french girl and taking place in France, thus referring back to Kalos and not to mention Disney films are known for using singing and dancing i.e Aria and Pirouette forms
@@10tailedbijuu Disney’s version is not the original version. As with most Disney stories they are taken from other dark stories worldwide and transformed into what they consider wholesome and family friendly. The original tale of Cinderella has its roots in Europe.
Tremaine is a French name.
4:08 Lockstin: "Downtown Abbey"
Me, a Brit: *Facepalm*
Same!
Yeah...
Minor anurism
Get over yourselves.
I'm sorry, but this is a matter of honour, good sir
Wait, with the Oranges and Grapes in gen 9, Calyrex represents fruit, very strongly, for barely any reason. I know its a legendary, but still. Also maybe royalty will be a big deal in Scarlet and Violet. Maybe Zarude was referencing Legends Arceus "surviving in the wild" thing you mentioned? (I know spain is also the only european country with monkeys, just adding more ideas.)
Welp, the prediction didn't age well.
But maybe there's something you didn't notice that actually hinted for gen 9's Spain inspired Pokémon region.
Not entirely. the Brazilian language is a dialect of Portuguese, and Ecuador is a Spanish-speaking country. Granted, India didn't do so well but in a sense, the others weren't far off at all
@@ac7482 I mean, yeah you could say the same as any latin American country (aside from Brazil) speaks Spanish as it comes from Spain which colonized most part of it.
@@Diego-dq2pi True, but in that case any guess in that region would have been somewhat related. I just thought the combination of Brazil and Ecuador was an unlucky coincidence
“It’s from some unknown world!”
*shows ‘Welcome to Ohio’ sign*
As a born and raised Ohioan, can confirm Ohio is indeed an unknown world to many.
My wife and I (she’s from New England) met at college in Ohio. But she was adamant when we finished that under no circumstances would she ever live in Ohio. I don’t blame her 😂
How are your corn dragons doing cornrade?
I think we will get jungle era
Another possible takeaway from Darkrai is it's "quest" involving the sailor having crippling nightmares iirc, possibly connecting it to H.P. Lovecraft, the horror writer from Rhode Island.
Big brain!
I just realized Zarude probably hints and Legends: Arceus. It’s glowing red eyes, and aggressive demeanor remind me of alpha pokemon, while it being a pack creature from a land that seems to lack a high density of humans fits with Hisui. That must mean the new legendary in Legend: Arceus must be hinting at the next game. I wonder what it could be? 🧐
MAN HE SAID LIVING IN THE WILD JUST LIKE LEGENDS AAAAAHHHH
It looks like gen 9 is inspired by Spain. Enamorus is the new Legendary. So... Is Spain particularly associated with love? 🤔
@@kellycoons9808 Spanish is considered a language of love, so yes
@@kellycoons9808 didnt he say it was mythical pokemon tho, not legendary pokemon?
Well, one thing I've noticed is Usually the Pokemon movies that come out during a certain Generation will feature and or at least show a Pokemon that ends up being from the new Generation so I definitely think there is a pattern
The first one did show a Donphan performing a Rollout, and both Lucario and Zoroark starred in their own respective movies before their games were officially released. The anime did show off a lot of later-gen Pokémon when the next one is on the horizon such as the trainer Harrison near the end of the Johto-arc, May owning a Munchlax, and a Weavile appearing on the opening of _Advanced Battle._ I don't count Misty's Togepi or Ho-oh as some Gen-II Pokémon were originally in the Gen-I roster before their removal.
It turns out he is
I like the idea that Mew was the "new species" pokemon in the pokedex in red and blue. Mews foreshadowing was simply that of the addition of new pokemon. Mew was proof that a sequel WAS happening.
I don't think so. It was unveiled that Mew was a late addition made buy the programmer without asking anyone and it wasn't planned to be in the game. I even think Mewtwo was created without an original counterpart in mind cos it's name seems to be just a play on "mutant" that sounded high tech without any intent of making Mew a thing.
Mew was originally made by a developer as an inside joke between the pokemon red/green developers
Lol
Wasn't mew literally directly from some country in south america?
Just thinking on retrospect, The DLC legendaries might hint at their future titles as well. The Urshufus seem to point to the fighting styles of Legends Arceus, being agile styles and strong style. The new regis seem to be hinted at a return to sinnoh but with a twist, they intentionally included Regigigas even though he would pop back up. As for Calyrex, maybe hinting at finding out something ancient and long forgotten. Maybe again, Legends Arceus. As for the Birds, maybe about how Hisui is savage and terrifying and Pokemon people knew would be a lot more vicious due to the harsher environment. In fact they're the only roaming pokemon you have to chase, and may be referencing PLA catching mechanics. This is just my speculation though
Calyrex is actually Easy - it hinted at the New forms for the creation trio and whole legends arceus. Like palkia now Having hooves - fusion. Also calyrex theme was a remix of dialga/palkia theme u can clearly hear it. By the lore calyrex was forgot by the People that lives in a snowy area - almigthy sinnoh refrence.
@@kapiquantum I didn't realize that about Calyrex's music. That's actually really interesting!
I would have included Cresselia in there as a hint towards the light/dark aspect along with Darkrai towards Gen 5s Black and White contrast. Granted it is apparently classified as only a legendary so maybe not.
I've come out of watching this video with two things in mind.
1: Now I want to see a third form for Meloetta for the Ternary form (call it "Remix Form" or something-Electric/Psychic? Because the third section of a Ternary Aria is a repeat of the first section?)
2: Dear lord, the V-sign has a much cooler origin than I ever thought it could! Thinking about it, it's pretty amazing how such a small gesture has kind of permeated society worldwide.
What if I told You if Gen 9 will have a tropical region since zarude is a mandrill and apes are usually seen in jungles and
and will be based on a tropical country or states, and the movie in which zarude appear in is called pokémon the secret of the jungles, perhaps india since india is referenced so many times in Pokémon and there’s an indian elephant pokemon in Pokémon Sword and Shield and zarude raising koko could also reference the jungle book, a movie about a bear and a panther raising a human child, india is also somewhat tropical, so makes sense right ?
There’s also a rumor that there’s going to be another mythical pokemon based on a tiger who is going to be the predators of zarude and shere khan is a tiger and the main antagonist of the jungle book, a movie taken place in india. And tigers and apes are rivals, zarude is great, zarude is now my favorite mythical pokémon.
@@kerrywien6775 What do you want to bet there'll be one or two NPCs that beat the author's name?
“It’s from some unknow world”
(Shows Ohio)
That cracked me up
So many fantasy and supernatural stories make the Ohio connection as a reference because of the supposed mythical ley lines it has that enhances magic or whatever XD
As an ohioan, I can guarantee that the magic here is full of either corn/ the hellfire preaching priests from the west, water from the north, air from the skyscrapers of Columbus, or earth from the southeast Appalachian areas.
Welp………. How does Zarude connect to Spain 💀
It could have something to do with the plot
lockstin mentioned this in his other video on the starters but spain is actually the only european country that natively has monkeys on it.its a stretch but its something
Zarude is probably a hint to scarlet and violet as Spain is the only European country to have monkeys. Great video.
Zarude being partially based off of baboons could be a hint to an Africa-inspired region. The Congo Basin is the world's second largest tropical rainforest after the Amazon.
Thats what I was thinking
This is what I was thinking, but after all the Indian references, I’m leaning more towards India next. South America seemed like a bit of a stretch to me, I was definitely thinking Africa (specifically the Congo) first.
There's monkeys in south and central America as well. I really doubt Zarude is just because of the monkeys on British owned Gibraltar.
That's illegal
Here we are debating on Brazil and India
From where did Africa came
What if I told You if Gen 9 will have a tropical region since zarude is a mandrill and apes are usually seen in jungles and
and will be based on a tropical country or states, and the movie in which zarude appear in is called pokémon the secret of the jungles, perhaps india since india is referenced so many times in Pokémon and there’s an indian elephant pokemon in Pokémon Sword and Shield and zarude raising koko could also reference the jungle book, a movie about a bear and a panther raising a human child, india is also somewhat tropical, so makes sense right ?
There’s also a rumor that there’s going to be another mythical pokemon based on a tiger who is going to be the predators of zarude and shere khan is a tiger and the main antagonist of the jungle book, a movie taken place in india. And tigers and apes are rivals, zarude is great, zarude is now my favorite mythical pokémon.
There's also The Jungle Book a story of Mowgli, a child that was raised by animals and that takes place in India, the movie of Zarude is based on the story of a kid that was raised by Zarude, (pokemons like Sinistea and Cufant are good exemples of this). This could also be a reference to Tarzan, that was raised by apes like Zarude, this story takes place on west Africa, another place that is on a new continent and that was colonized by Europeans (British colonized Nigeria)(In Galar we can see Rillaboom, a gorrila pokemon that uses a percussion instrument that looks like a Djambe, a west african instrument).
The zarude had that tree though and the water than ran within it automatically made me think the Rain Forest which is in… Brazil.
I originally thought of Africa, but India is a good guess, as a lot of people thought Copperajah was foreshadowing of that.
@@justice5832 Yeah i think that's definitely possible, since pokemon started encourage the young generations pollute less and all that stuff. (G-Max Garbodor and Cursola are good exemples) There can be also a reference to the amazonian forest burning or the orangutan that lost their habitat and all of that stuff
You mean the jungle book from disney?
@@treek10k yes
Zarude - Gen 9 Galapagos was right
In that case gen 10 is back to Japan with teal mask & indigo disk
It's kind of interesting that the dot in the center of magearna's abdomen is a pale blue and magenta, same colors as gen 8's legendaries
You know I never thought of Zeraora as the "Za-Yellow" many were anticipating after Za Cyan & Za Magenta from Galar, but if the Furry Fox was leading into the next gen it does fit that pattern! Zeraora, Zacian, Zamazenta as the primary colors, hey there they are! Ze Ora! Zarude muddles the pattern but also could be intentionally different as an indicator for the next gen! This is such a smart way to understand the designs and also very fun. Thanks for this!
if you watch closely, you will notice that Hoopa ring is really about wormhole in Alola, Mageana Gear represents Galar Buildings, and Zarude maybe show us upcoming era/land of 'jungle'
zeraora could also mean in spanish as cera (wax) + or (gold) which is a fitting name for yellow
What if I told You if Gen 9 will have a tropical region since zarude is a mandrill and apes are usually seen in jungles and
and will be based on a tropical country or states, and the movie in which zarude appear in is called pokémon the secret of the jungles, perhaps india since india is referenced so many times in Pokémon and there’s an indian elephant pokemon in Pokémon Sword and Shield and zarude raising koko could also reference the jungle book, a movie about a bear and a panther raising a human child, india is also somewhat tropical, so makes sense right ?
There’s also a rumor that there’s going to be another mythical pokemon based on a tiger who is going to be the predators of zarude and shere khan is a tiger and the main antagonist of the jungle book, a movie taken place in india. And tigers and apes are rivals, zarude is great, zarude is now my favorite mythical pokémon.
cmyk is the colour system used on most printers, meaning cyan magenta yellow black. Zacian is cyan, Zamazenta is magenta, Zeraora is yellow, and Zarude could mean black as it has alot of the colour black on it.
If he talks about this in the video i wouldn't know because i havent watched it yet
I can't understand the connection with zeraora and zayellow, this does not match the naming scheme in the slightest
I feel like Shaymin might also reference N and the story for Black and White. Since N believes people don't show gratitude or respect for Pokemon and how trainers don't understand or appreciate their Pokemon partners? Part of the story is showing N that people and Pokemon have mutual respect and gratitude for each other? Also Shaymin's design looks a bit like N lol
Also Shaymin is, literally, the Gratitude Pokémon.
Zarude being related to south america was close enough, Gen 9 seems to be related to Spain...
Not at all
Come to think of it, Ecuador would be the perfect place to base a newpokemon generation.
This is because in Ecuador has a ton of diferent weather around the country. The region "sierra" is a cold snowy region and the "costa" has a hot weather and is connected to the sea, and therefore has beaches.
And as you said, the Galapagos islands are there and one of the regions of ecuador, the "amazonas" is mainly know for being part of the gigatic rain forests that are in Latino America.
This could open the possibility for a pokemon game with a snowy area, a beach summer area, a volcanic area (galapagos) and a forest area.
I've always found Celebi reminds me of the lake guardians from gen 4, which is to say it's reasonable to argue that the mythical pokemon are a good indication of what GameFreak wants to explore for future games, and thus the early ones of Celebi and Mew you see connected to future games, while the later mythical pokemon not only indicate what the company wants to explore but also specific themes around new games.
What if I told You if Gen 9 will have a tropical region since zarude is a mandrill and apes are usually seen in jungles and
and will be based on a tropical country or states, and the movie in which zarude appear in is called pokémon the secret of the jungles, perhaps india since india is referenced so many times in Pokémon and there’s an indian elephant pokemon in Pokémon Sword and Shield and zarude raising koko could also reference the jungle book, a movie about a bear and a panther raising a human child, india is also somewhat tropical, so makes sense right ?
There’s also a rumor that there’s going to be another mythical pokemon based on a tiger who is going to be the predators of zarude and shere khan is a tiger and the main antagonist of the jungle book, a movie taken place in india. And tigers and apes are rivals, zarude is great, zarude is now my favorite mythical pokémon.
@@kerrywien6775 zarude is like a hoolock gibbon and a lion tailed macaque
I think deoxys didn’t only foreshadow sinnoh with the space aspect, but also with the whole aspect of evolutions and I am sure the DNA has a lot to do with evolution
But...
Evolution was in the games before Deoxys or Sinnoh.
That's not really foreshadowing to any other region it's mainly just acknowledging evolution as a feature. But I kinda don't think that was intentional, after all, DNA has a million other connections that aren't just evolution, and I think it'd make more sense for a pokemon whose origin revolves around evolution to be one that... ya know, evolves.
After rereading this I just realized how passive-aggressive and sarcastic I sound.
Jirachi and Deoxys together hints at the space aspects.
@@FriBinCringe I think what OP was referring to by saying "evolution" is the amount of pre- and post-evolutions that a lot of older pokemon were given in gen 4
@@FriBinCringe They are referring to proffesor Rowan being the proffesor who studies pokemon evolutions
23:46
“Living out in the wilderness on your own”
*looks at Legend Arceus, a free roam game about surviving in the wilderness*
Hmmmmmmmmmm
Lockstin: "It might be about living in the wilderness on your own."
Legends Arceus: *Nervous sweating*
I would also treat Urshifu as a Mythical for the theory, as in: It is from another region and you can only get one. It basically is an open clue for a coming region at some point.
I thin that Kubfu and Urshifu are from Hisui/Sinnoh
@@esaliikka3168 Why? What’s your theory?
@@esaliikka3168 Urshifu is the Wushu (Kung Fu) Pokemon, Kung Fu originating from China. This is why the dex entries also reference it coming from a far away land. I think it's highly unlikely we'll see a China-based region, given it's historical and present hostilities with Japan.
@@mattdelson3264 its also said Kubfu lived in mountains, and im pretty sure Sinnoh/Hisui is the most mountainous region to date.
So it would make sense (given the hostility thing you mentioned) to make its native region Hisui.
Grey, wouldn't it,logically speaking, if we're counting Kubfu/Urshifu that we count Calyrex?
I mean its a deer looking forgotten king thing in an icy region. So... Canada?
I feel like what was said about zarude's gimmic for lassoing and its connection to untouched nature, since we've known about it for quite a while now, could've easy been foreshadowing to legends arceus with its more open area and catch style; it's quite literally being in direct contact with pokemon in nature.
Thank you, as soon as he said it that’s EXACTLY were I went with it.
retrospectively, they aren't mythical but Regieleki and Regidraco do seem to hint gen 9 theme ( Past / Future ) and maybe Calyrex adverts to a new riding gimmick.
aged well
I think marshadow is a reference to darkest day where darkness consumed galar and seeing how it’s a dark type it kinda matches
Mew could be a reference to the fact that there were still Pokemon yet to be discovered (it wasn't part of the original 150 Pokedex and could only be found through convoluted tricks)
My best guess is South America for generation 9. Probably somewhere around the Amazon Rainforest. If this holds true.
Where Mew is said to be from? It all comes together.
that works for me but i’d prefer another’s region that won’t be american
But Nintendo hates LATAM and Brazil specifically
@@gabrielclementino2490 why’s that? I honestly don’t know and want to know
I Believe the same ✨
I'm gonna pretend that I'm writing this comment before Scarlet and Violet were revealed.
I don't think Gamefreak would do a Brazilian-inspired Pokémon region anytime soon, 'cause they kinda seem to forget that we exist.
For Gen 5, not only do you have Keldeo foreshadowing Kalos as a mythical, but also its legendaries the Swords of Justice. Not only that, but you also have the gen 5 legendary genies foreshadowing Hoopa as the gen 6 mythical too.
i know that might not be another reason for Marshadow hinting at gen 8 but if you look at its typing its fighting ghost just like the 4th gym depending on the version you play
Ah... no youre right.
@@DemonEyeXGamer you’re reading way too deep into this
Jirachi has a lot of Japanese culture inspiration, meaning staying in Japan possibly. And space is sometimes called the heavens and full of celestial bodies, hence the celestial creator trio and Arceus lord of the heavens and all underneath.
Also while not technically mythicals, Calyres and Khubfu could point to gen 9 too, possibly China or India
I am thinking india because most ancient asian martial arts can trace their lineage to india
This would makes sense to since they also had copprajah in galar ?
"Living out in the wilderness" I'm getting some serious Legends Arceus vibes
In response to the recent trailer of gen 9. I quoted Bulbapedia's observation on the inspiration for Zarude's design and mannerism "The use of vines to swing through trees is also reminiscent of how spider monkeys use their prehensile tails." Wouldn't you know it, spider monkeys are native to South America (around Brazil). AND, this is probably a massive stretch, but the Iberian peninsula countries (Spain and Portugal) that gen 9 is probably inspired from, has extensive history with "exploring" (which is also going to be a theme in gen 9, just look at the trailer and the "open world" statement on the web) the South American countries. big stretch, but hey.
In the trailer there were a lot of gold also which could be a reference to the mythical "El Dorado" usually linked to South America that the Spanish and Portuguese were particularly fond of.
"It's a whole new world we live in
It's a whole new way to see
It's a whole new place, with a brand new attitude
But you've still gotta catch 'em all
And be the best that you can be"
Too doo doo too doo doo! Pokemon Johto!
oh the nostalgia
My favorite opening.
@@Soularlove I personally prefer Stand Tall, but I agree. The Movie 3 version is way better.
@@Soularlove mine too!
14:07 : When it comes to Darkrais whole dream aspect, I immediately thought of Manifest Destiny. The "dream" of many early Americans that moving west would lead to better lives. And to tie into the dark aspect, Manifest Destiny wasn't all it was cracked up to be. Many people died on pilgrimages heading west. Pretty dark if you ask me.
Edit: I completely forgot that New York was an early settlement, and was a big factor in the Manifest Destiny movement. Unova is based on New York. Neat.
As you might have heard on a certain song covered by They Might Be Giants, New York was New Amsterdam at one time.
Theory aside, the fact that you focused on the colonizer's deaths on the "pilgrimages" and not the loads of indigenous people that were slaughtered due to manifest destiny says a LOT.
@@treyisnotanormalname885 I'm in total agreement with you, Trey. It's hard enough I have to feel ashamed to be descended from the wrong people near the end of every January.
@Trey is not a normal name I had no intentions on sounded complacent to the pain and suffering natives went through. I'm descended from natives, so if anything I would never want to do that. I apologize if that's how it came across. Yes, the Manifest Destiny movement caused many native deaths. With that aside, both sides of it add more to the theory.
Zarude's coloration is very similar to that of Okidogi, there's that. They even match the Zarude's scarf in the movie. There is a picture of Zarude that is 100% match with Okidogi's pose in the official artwork.
Yes their poses are also same…purple scarf 😂😂
watching this now and having gen 9 coming out soon, maybe zarude does symbolised forest and open world...? maybe
Its comfirmed in the video itself the new region is open world, check the description in the new trailer.
Zarude symbolizes Columbus and his expedition to America
For the Darkrai and gen 5 connection, there is the American dream, since darkrai is all about dreams
And it was a nightmare for Great Britain and the natives hence darkrai.
Also, fun fact. Mega Mewtwo Y was shown in the Genesect movie. But Megas and Gen 6 weren’t confirmed by the Pokémon company yet. Which gives Genesect more of a reason to hint at Gen 6.
The part he mentioned about the Amazon rainforest and it being in South America really has a relation with the new region, because this whole region was colonized by Spain and Portugal
Wow... I was kinda expecting Shaymin's forms (Land/Sky) can also be hinting at the switching forms of Thundurus, Landorus, and Tornadus (Incarnate/Therian). I guess that's kinda farfetch'd lol
20:58 "For now" Zarude has themes of its habitat being threatened.
That could fit very well with the Brazil theory. The Amazon is heavily endangered right now.
I reckon gen 9 will be in Australia, with my small knowledge even though I live in Australia, the aborigines take care of their land by protecting it, sort of like how zarude protected the tree in the movie. Regarding the way humans attacked the zarude is sorta like how England tried to take over Australia. I reckon it adds ups pretty much and is a good candidate, now we just gotta wait for more mythical.
Flashbacks to how England took over India
India and Australia are my most anticipated regions personally and my God would either of them be perfect
@@redkingdom15 Fr bro they would just be insanely good.
@@LegendGaming-vp6vr Do you know what the Far East is
@@tijanamilenkovic3425 no I don't sorry
Genesect accidentally was ahead of his time predicting future paradox pokemon and Miraidon. We better see the boi soon. Being a cyborg like them too
You put up a good effort with Zarude, but I think it either vaguely hints to a DLC or possibly something within the new Sinnoh games, or it hints to day of the dead in Spain, with its skeletal design.
You know who definitely hints toward Spain…
Calyrex. His crown resembles an old Spanish crown more than anything, and even his big collar looks a lot like old-time Spanish royal collars. Plus there have been many notable times Spanish warriors went into combat while mounted on a horse. The different forms of Calyrex’s steed may also represent something but I haven’t thought about them as much.
Oh, also Articuno looks a bit like it’s wearing a mask for a masquerade. So yeah. Your theory holds up, you just need to include the possibility that they aren’t necessarily hinting to a new region, but a new experience in a Pokémon game soon to come up. Like how Urshifu literally uses strong or agile styles from Legends Arceus.
Overall great theory 😁
Also, Johto focuses a lot on the past, and Mew's whole thing is that it's ancient.
+Legoluigi26 Hoenn, Sinnoh, Unova, Kalos and Galar all focus on the past too. You can cherry pick any aspect of anything and connect it to any aspect of another thing if you really want to. Example: Victini is a Yellow-ish Pokémon and it's the number 000 in the Unova dex, which is often regarded as a homage to gen 1. Therefor, Victini was actually made for gen 1 but cartridge size limitations blah blah blah so they went with Pikachu and a story based on the anime instead.
thinking about it mew might foreshadow just future Pokémon in general. it is number 151 afterall. an extra number tacked to the end of a respectible 150. even after it's clone...
as if they where saying "hey, this thing's out there, it doesn't really belong there's more to come!
And the anime teased Ho Oh
Big stretch on mew:
Mew is elusive, a myth of sorts
In Gen 2, a major plot point surrounds Team Rocket trying to locate an elusive man of legend, the missing Giovanni.
What if I told You if Gen 9 will have a tropical region since zarude is a mandrill and apes are usually seen in jungles and
and will be based on a tropical country or states, and the movie in which zarude appear in is called pokémon the secret of the jungles, perhaps india since india is referenced so many times in Pokémon and there’s an indian elephant pokemon in Pokémon Sword and Shield and zarude raising koko could also reference the jungle book, a movie about a bear and a panther raising a human child, india is also somewhat tropical, so makes sense right ?
There’s also a rumor that there’s going to be another mythical pokemon based on a tiger who is going to be the predators of zarude and shere khan is a tiger and the main antagonist of the jungle book, a movie taken place in india. And tigers and apes are rivals, zarude is great, zarude is now my favorite mythical pokémon.
As a dutch person, I just can’t get over his pronunciation- it’s too hilarious. “Vrijheid” is actually pronounced vryhyt, or vraihait. It’s difficult to imagine with english tones, but this is about it.
Yeah, words are hard to get when you don't have a real reference point on how to pronounce them. This is on of the reasons it's easier to learn a laugh when you are surrounded by people who speak it even if no one teaches you directly.
true
vrishhaid
Brah hate
Frikandel broodje
Somerhing that I'm surprised you didn't mention is that marshadow is a hidden shadow, hinting the darkest day, and rose secretly creating eternatus.
Disclaimer:
He is wrong it is Spain 🇪🇸 region and names are scarlet and violet
Don't know if this has been said yet but Mew is known as the "New Species" Pokémon. So that could be a hint and nod to Gen 2 as well indicating that new species of Pokémon are always being discovered.
Magearna was rather supposed to be revelaled in Pokemon Z because it fits Kalos the most
And there was Pokémon the Movie: Volcanion and the Mechanical Marvel which entire plot was based around Magearna and certain city in Kalos.
KRplusrs: *makes a 10+ min vid on a theory for designs*
Gamefreak: This design looks cool, let's add it to the game
Remember when we all thought marshadow's name was hinting towards the end of pokemon as we know it? I'm glad Lockstin was wrong on that one
2 things
1. This is ridiculous and a massive stretch and you could do this for a number of things
2. I love it and will watch this multiple times