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When the game was talking about comfort in the attic, it seems to be like comfort in your own head. Well, at least my interpretation is that the game is all in your head. I'd settle for that personally. Feel like if you're comfortable in your own head, it may make other things easier to do.

I think Mark struggled with that happy ending, because he finds so much purpose in work and movement and action. He's known grief, but he also throws himself into so many projects and activities to keep himself occupied. Most of us can't do that.

You might be right about this. Like, there was a goal, to go outside, that wasn't achieved, but look at everything that was achieved! Folding away all the boxes. Opening a present that's been avoided for a while. Getting dressed and freshening up. Cleaning up and decorating the house. Heck, sometimes just getting up from bed is a struggle. The goal that was set may not have been achieved, but so much else was and I think the character, and the player, should take pride in that.
Yes, persistence to achieve a single goal is a great thing to have and aspire to, but sometimes you should be cognizant of what you're currently capable and make realistic goals for yourself. True, you didn't get outside today, but look at what you did accomplish. And, like the game says, there's always tomorrow to try again. You didn't fail your goal. Not so long as you always keep trying.

Not sure if the game had this in mind with _"the good ending"_. However, I personally tought if this aswell when I saw the good ending. Pushing yourself to hard will just make you crash down again and disspoint you, likely to leave you more confused and in bad shape than before. (with the hope you learn from it).
Anyway, thanks for writing out what I thought aswell.

I didn’t really understand the good ending until I read this and now I totally get it. I hope mark sees this

same

So so true

You almost made me spill my coffee

ikkrrr

Wait u guys are struggling to get out of bed

Main?

The?

The duality of man.

It is always nice to have a stubborn voice of bullheaded-confidence and self-importance that doesn't waver from outside pressure. It is not a very noble-sounding aspect, but it is what keeps people moving forward towards a future undaunted by the trials and tribulations of the past.

keeps?

Mark went through depression,he's been there. He learned how to fight and win, that's why he was fighting tooth and nail with that narrator

Mark got really depressed that one time his bestfriend killed himself

Helped many get out of that box, myself included

We all need to remember, we have a mini mark in our head fighting those insulting thoughts. Go mini marks, go! o7

He’s said before that he’s never dealt with depression. Depression =/= temporary sadness.

Literally

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For sure. I’m like damn I need to tell my intrusive thoughts that.

we all need an inner markiplier in our life

[ @@zaqareemalcolm ] you're so damn right bestie

In my group of friends, we gave names to our "bad brain", the ones that talk us down. So whenever we share something bad/beat ourselves up, the others insult the bad brain by calling its name instead of telling us "you shouldn't say/think that". BC it's nicer to beat the shit out of someone else than saying you as a person just don't get things right. Impersonating our bad brains makes things overall funnier and nicer.
Now, calling our bad brains out AND growing a tiny Markiplier to encourage us through shitstorms and days... Yeah. That's a life I can do things with.

Negative? Nah. He's... I mean, they... There's a lot of them.
They mean no harm, but eccentric is the weirdest for me. Anger is hard to control, sadness is rare. Horny, well you know where it goes.
Then there's the good guy and bad guy, both make the best decisions for me.
Also the memory dude, sometimes remind me of things that can be either useful of useless.
And there is me. I question their thoughts, decisions, and assumptions. Everything is fine... so far.

@@a_very_burnt_steak hey, idk if you have issues with social interactions or something but just so you know, you shouldn't just mention your horniness when nobody asked. It's very unsettling.

@@UltraMarineBlue it isn't. Well. I guess I don't get along people this way. Might as well take my other face.
It's fake, by the way. Sorry if it's unsettling. I'm sorry.

SILENCIO BRUNO

T H E B E E S !

if I ever make a game I'm gonna put a character named after you in it that says "H E H A S C H O S E N T H E B E E S " banger of a line

@@ChiefsPlayground aw ty!

@@Cr0wM0ther I can already see the character you’d be too, Salty summoner of Bees. PC walks into boss arena after getting fair warning my Salty, they then hear “So you have CHOSEN THE BEES, I shall grant you a stinging death”

BEEEEEEEEEESSS!

One of the many reasons marks the best

Man I need my own personal Mark as a hype man to get me through the day. I'm playing this game on hard mode.

>Builds up enough willpower to reach into my school backpack and open a book over the course of 3 days.
>Studies for 5 minutes.
"Yeah, that's enough for today"

It's also specifically connected to this particular psychological issue depicted in this game. I also suffer from this. Uni hast started a month ago and I haven't yet been able to set foot inside the place. My biggest record was to take a cab to a nearby pharmacy this month. Here's to hoping I'll get to school before the year is over

@@highlander6573 *has to do late school work*
"Yeah I'll do it later or at home!"
*cuts to forgetting and not catching up*

The sad truth of life

@@egemenozan5641 I get how that can feel.. I broke down and had to skip 3 days of my classes because I couldn’t stop panicking and crying when I got there. Luckily I have friends and teachers who care about me and really helped me recover enough until I visit my counselor. I hope you can figure something out soon.

Mark as a teacher:
"And that, kids, is how you battle depression! Any questions? None, no questions good. Let's enjoy some fresh air outside, enjoying the moment we ARE IN. THANKYOU"

Game: You are nothing.
Mark: No. How about we don’t. FFFFFRICK YOU.

Hell yeah 😂

I mean, he legit is for me. I don't know why. But anytime I talk back to that negative narrator, it's always Mark's voice saying "ffffrrrriiiiiiick you, asswipe" or something. It's freak-flopping halarious.

Yeah it wouldn't be tolerable without him. The game kind of glorifies that negative voice and it irks me.

I'm actually really pleased there's an interesting result for that.

the game: oh, you wanna sleep forever? *say no more.*

i find it weird that i get bothered when people use the wrong your/you're. but when they say "ur" i'm perfectly fine with it. because ur can mean your (single syllable ur) and you're (double syllable U-R). I'm so picky with your/you're that i can even hear the difference and get bothered when people verbally say the wrong your. "You're" kinda sounds like it has 2 syllables but it's really just 1, kinda like the "kyo" part of "Tokyo". I probably just unlocked the next level of grammarnazi for you if you already were one... sorry. also i once saw "u're" and i'm trying really hard to reject that because then i'll start getting annoyed by the wrong "ur". I really don't want another [i guess phobia, idk]. also another weird thing that's sorta weird is when people say "it's" when they mean "its" really bothers me like a lot. but if they use "its" instead of "it's" i'm kinda ok with it because i know that the apostrophe can be a tad bit dangerous as it is right next to the "Enter" key and I know i dont wanna send a comment or message too early because i accidentally grazed the enter button. And so in my mind it's like OK, That's understandable. but "It's" will always be "it is" in my mind and i cant change that and it throws me off when i read it and they used it wrong. Plus using the apostrophe takes conscious effort. They put that much effort into it just to annoy people like us, grammarnazis. I didn't used to be like this. Knowledge has power but it also has sorrow. The more you know, the less you wonder. You seek too much knowledge, you become saddened by what it reveals.

@@electricspider2267I ain’t reading allat

@@turtlesrprettycool3379sameeee

That was my story as well. Really helped stop my depressive episode.

1:03:46 "It's an improvement no matter what!" :D

​@@vivienroselindthanks

me too

same here, rn im on the up off the worst deppressive episode of my life lol

As soon as the option to rummage in the trash was presented, I knew there was only one way this was gonna go down.

YES! That was my exact thought! Lol

West of Loathing is such a treasure.

you just made me look back at the series and i saw it was posted four years ago and i just had a mental breakdown cause i thought it came out a year ago and now i feel old KAMWMQNA

Oh god not again...

100% yes. When I was in a very bad but functional state of depression over the course of maybe 2 or 3 years I didn't even want to get better, just stay comfortable where I was. Very dangerous thing to fall into.

100% describes my online friend. Like he's not seriously suicidal anymore and have hopeful thoughts more often but he doesn't seem to make it his goal to actually go out there. He longs for irl friends but doesn't want step outta his house to meet people. Any tips on what i should say to him? Or should i just stay outta it?

the show big mouth kinda shows it by making the symbol for depression a big fluffy cat

@@letsreadtextbook1687 My recommendation personally is to encourage him within your comfort and ability. Don't hurt yourself trying to give help to someone who doesn't want it, but a nudge in the right direction and encouragement to take action can go a long way. Point him towards resources that can help him if you cannot.
Please do not overexert yourself. You're not responsible for another person's life, but if you get wrapped up, it might feel like it. All you can do is give what you can. The last thing we want is to feel like a burden to the people we care about.

felt that. ive had depression for a while, and its coupled with anxiety for me. my depression has already set in, and my anxiety doesnt like changes at all. so its like im stuck in this little whirlpool of "well i should take my meds- oK TOO MUCH HAPPY GOOP GO BACK TO SAD"

@@mosesagu bro gave up

@@mosesagu bro didnt even try to disguise his name

"bro really just ong ongfrfr" in the replies right now

Bruh, "Juicy-KingDerp.alt. , you is straight bussin'. Fr, fr, no cap. 💀💀💀

Thank you. Your words at the end of the video helped me alot today.

this this this

This is exactly what I got from this game

Why does this comment have 336 likes and no replies ?

@@X-SPONGED because people like it but have nothing to add

@Rhys Luff shut bot

@Rhys Luff ah, well that means you can understand me. So shut.

@Rhys Luff your internet connection. I would say to shut off your entire brain but you don't seem to have one.

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WoW ¡ I didn’t notice. Going outside was a metaphor for suicide. « Exiting live » they say.

I don't think it was a noose. It looked like a drawn on light . There was another one that looked similar over a drawn door.

no, outside is just outside. there's another door, in the subbasement. that one is very heavily implied to be the character killing himself. that's the 4th ending that mark didn't get to

I’m pretty sure that was just a drawing of a lightbulb

Hey I know I'm a stranger but hope your doing alright.

same as the guy above, I hope you are doing ok and that you can make progress

❤

as another person with agoraphobia i feel for your struggle. i hope you are doing alright. healing is a process not a destination and i wish you the best with your progress

even though you probably won't see this, you're doing great. Don't give up. There are so many people who genuinely care for you, never forget that. And I hope you will feel better someday. maybe not today. Or tomorrow. But someday. Someday is someday, not never.

You, Friend, Said the most accurate representation of what I was thinking, I personally love this idea.

😢

I'm with Mark on the ending segment. I really like the visual analogy of a decaying house, and the constant condescending tone of the narrator, I feel like all of that is pretty accurate for what I go through. But that ending segment really is a step backwards for me.
The way I interpret things, cleaning up the one room in the house is an act of defiance against depression. It's changing your outlook on a specific aspect of your life for the better. But that is REALLY difficult. It takes a lot out of someone with depression. I know from personal experience.
I see the front door, the outside, as a break from the rest of the house. Yes, one room is better, but the rest of the house is still in disarray. It's not safe in the house, despite that one room being more tidy. It serves to be a logical next step to leave the house, get some fresh air, and rest up. When feeling ready, you can come back into the house, tidy up a new room, and rinse and repeat.
Going back to bed, in a house that is objectively unsafe, and stewing in the darkness that surrounds it seems like a terrible idea. The house is out to get you, there is no rest inside of it. It's much more healthy to step outside, hang out with some friends, meet new people, find a new hobby, rather than staying in the house.
This is a super long and late comment. You probably don't even remember writing this, and if it pops up in your notifications, you'll probably have no idea what I'm talking about. But I'm drunk, don't really care, and can confidently say that I have spent too long in the house, and it's starting to take a toll on me.
Cheers, mate

You made this?! Holy shoot dude, that's amazing, this is an amazing game!! And as someone who suffers from psychosis, and agoraphobia, you just perfectly captured what it's like to just live on a day to day basis, to a T! Ig what I'm just trying to say is, great game man, what an experience :)

Are you the author??
You did incredible on this game. I hope everything is better for you now and if not I wish you the best of luck
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I thank you so much, I know me and millions of others who will see and play this game will finally understand and/or relate and even be educated on depression and such
. This game made me laugh and cry. Yes, it was a bit of a risk watching since I knew the topics were gonna be heavy but I felt like I needed to watch it anyway.
Thank you for doing this and showing your experiences :)
We aren't alone in this battle.
We all matter ^_^

I dont think this is the creator guys

ya, an hour and a half of it. Very nice

If you are the one who wrote this, I’m very sorry and I truly hope you’re doing better if you’ve felt these things. From my view of this it described everything I’ve felt throughout my life. I’m autistic and gone my whole life without a diagnosis and because of that I’ve developed many issues. I am curious as to if I understand what you’re trying to describe with the ending?? I’m poor with words but before facing leaving the house you must care for yourself because forcing yourself out can be so damaging (when you get to a curtain point like this). You have to relearned to clean, simple self care and the love of your hobbies so that you can just be you again. Anyways, if I’m wrong that’s fine, you still made an absolutely wonderful game and I just kinda wanted to put this out there.

@@Pepsea0 Are you okay?

Yep, it's so funny and Mark was the perfect guy to react to that ending because he has a massive ego (Some might call it self-confidence. Most wouldn't)

As he should. Taking a personal insult personally is an appropriate reaction.

@@simonghoul3602 Man you must hang around people who just absolutely hate themselves if that is the norm for them. The voice is not good or healthy thats the point. Mark uses the sass to kill the voice. You may call that sass ego but in reality it is just how his self-confidence sounds. But is sad that you seem to think that voice is healthy. If someone is talking you like that on a daily basis, even if it just in your head, that is toxic relationship. And you need to get out of that environment.

@@absterasgard1528 53:09 it's a reference

*They are my emotional support bees*

They were the outside people who told you "you're fine." "Just be happy." When you're depressed, happiness is something that is hard to achieve. Most people don't understand that depression is an equivalent to a broken bone. You feel the pain, the sadness burdens you. But since people can't see it on the outside, they think you're overreacting, being dramatic.
The bees are outside people inferring that you're not normal, that something is wrong with you; and it hurts you, emotionally. It attacks your self-esteem, your self worth.

@@belldandygoddesslov holy...shit... thats my whole entire life. thank you, so much for explaining like that. it was such an eye opener.

The bees... everything happened because of the BEES!

@@belldandygoddesslov damn

How I aspire to react to my depression brain

anger is always the answer. rise it, make it grow, make it consume your enemys.

Stabbing people is a real confidence boost!

@@xDemon666x Ummmm... Id like to just jump in here for a second... As someone with anger management problems, anger is not always the answer. While it can be a powerful ally and get certain things done, it can also BE your worst enemy and can actually get you into more trouble than its worth.
That being said, the PART of anger that you can learn from and use daily is the resolve. When you get truly furious at someone, there is very little, if anything, that can convince you to change your mind and calm down. THAT is the part of anger everyone (including myself) needs practice harnessing, and harnessing it correctly. Because you can be the most resolute person in the world and commit mass homicide, but thats not healthy (or legal XD). Or, you can use the resolve and clean up your house. Do the dishes, get laundry cleaned, folded, and put away (thats the big part of laundry), and take a 10 minute walk outside. Just 10 minutes.
It is not about using anger in its entirety and losing control, its about controlling your mind set and getting things done. Controlling yourself to do what you NEED to do rather than what you want to do (or rather what you dont want to do).

@@cameronfrith1302 that's really interesting. I struggle with feeling...well lots of things, but especially anger. I might try some of this and see if it helps. I haven't really ever heard anger described like that before, and thinking of it like that might make it easier for me let myself feel it.

It tells you to do things, like going outside, cleaning up, condemns you for not doing them sooner. but as soon as you go to do them, it shuts you down and tries to convince you to stay how you are.

@@beelzemobabbity The pain and guilt in trying to do something after being encouraged hurts so much that you just want to retreat and not try. Because trying and failing is so much more painful that giving in at the start.

Hey, that's actually pretty accurate!

Neat!

@@bread4237 It's not even about failing, it's about do8ng the time and just under unable to do so.

I think what mark was saying was....actually a good example of how to deal with those thoughts unintentionally 😂 we all need to think like mark lmao

Yes!

It's.. very inspiring.

we all need a mini Markiplier in our heads to pick fights with the depression.

@@Graci_Is_Spaci we all have the ability to observe and redirect our thoughts in a healthier manner. we all can decide what thoughts to focus on primarily. no matter how long and winding our trains of thoughts can be, there's always a way to find a way back to yourself

53:17 for anyone wanting the time stamp

Or doing that superman punch to them

"I heard your depression is strong, let me fight it!"

My self-loathing thinking: exists
until... **insert the mark tackle-attack meme**

Yeah, it's good to combat those thoughts. Trying to make my mindset more positive has really helped me in the past..

Whenever I think bad of myself I’ll imagine mark telling me to shut up loll

My thoughts too.

Honestly, I've used talking back that way to my inner thoughts as a coping mechanism from time to time.
"Wow, what a failure"
"Yeah, no we're not. I literally finished an entire art piece/cleaned the bathroom/etc. today"
"Boy how stupid are you?"
"Not very I think. That was a really stupid thing to do, but I'm going to learn from it"
"Hey, let's drink some of that bleach!"
"Or we could NOT die a horrible painful death."
Sometimes talking back helps. Sometimes distraction is better. Depends on the inner thought and the things going on around me. Anyway, try it on sometime and see how it fits.

@@jennytaylor3986 "I wonder how painful a death drinking bleach would be and would it taste good?"
"That is very Interesting it is probably very painful but it's probably not worth it to try and find out how it tastes"
*an actual convo I had in my head before lol

@@jennytaylor3986 same, exactly same

Always pushing you yet never satisfied, even when you do what it wants

May I ask a question? I’ve never heard of depression being described as (non-) psychotic. What entails that? I have moderate chronic depression that mostly is caused by my OCD so my knowledge isn’t geared towards it. Please and thanks!

what is it with nowadays and everyone having ocd adhd depression and throwing around these terms like a colours in a bag of skittles

I have sever Manic depression psychosis along with borderline and many other things and I agree this is one of the few good games/media that represents mental illness and what it’s like

​@@hiddenguy67they were diagnosed? what're you on about

@@i_love_games110 I know but why now?

Bipolar misdiagnosed chronic depression ten years ago.
I disagree to a extent. Mark is right. You have to push and it will feel like too much.
You and many others say it's good but that's a trap. You will get stuck in the small things being enough. Depression will use that thought to convince you to stop at those small things because they are so big.
It's not enough and whether you want to admit it or not. It's still not enough.
"Enough for today" and "we will do more tomorrow" is a trap and before you know it ten years have passed with little or nothing to show for it because you tricked yourself into false progress.
You must push more. Every time.
No matter.how.much you want to stop. No matter how much you want to say "I've done well" "I've done enough" you need to do more. You need to go outside.
Mark is right. And I think people are underestimating what mark has dealt with because he always has a smile on his face.
The best entertainers are typically very mentally unwell.

@@kopykat6843 I really believe there are hazards that will stop us on both sides. The need to not be satisfied with minimal effort is a real thing. ...But at the same time, never being satisfied with keeping "enough for today" small? It mostly just sounds like a guilt trip, and it's an echo of the same voice of cynicism that nothing will ever be enough.
Personally, when I hear that from anywhere - people I know, people I don't know (like you), even the parts of my own mind that repeat that I'll never get anywhere at this rate... I get angry. They don't get it, and I don't think you get it. Yes, you have to push yourself, but you also have to be able to stop pushing and rest and be rewarded or the pushing Will Just Break You. And yes, sometimes even "this little" needs to be enough. It's not so little anyway...
In order to have the fully decorated area and unlock the secret ending, the protag has to have fairly deeply explored their mind, sorted out their living space, corrected a bunch of crap which was left in really stupid places in order to even find their self-care stuff again, folded away a bunch of boxes, organized a bunch of paperwork, and then done the actual decorating, while avoiding distractions and being overwhelmed by ideations along the way. You don't *get* the secret ending by only doing basic self-care, it took reaching a milestone of Sorting Out The Crap. That is more than a holding pattern. You can't *do* that with evasive minimal-effort.

@@SerpentStare totally agreed. Focusing on nothing ever being *enough* just leads us right back to the frame of mind that says “I’m not gonna do it all anyway so why even try to do anything if I’m just going to fail”
Progress is progress, regardless of the relative magnitude of the progress. And progress is a victory and deserves to be celebrated. Some days are going to be or feel relatively bad, and that’s okay. As long as we’re going forward more than we’re going backward then we are on the right path.

@@kopykat6843 “the best entertainers are typically very mentally unwell” is a pretty awful thing to say. it’s not your place to be diagnosing someone you don’t even know

@@kopykat6843 weird take and sort of a bad sentiment. including the fact that mark has expressedly said he has adhd, but does not have depression or anxiety or anything else in multiple videos. do not go trying to diagnose someone who has experienced being depressed With clinical depression. it is not the same.
second, your sentiment about it being "a trap" and "not enough" are just feeding the negative self talk. never in my life as a person with severe clinical depression and adhd (and several other diagnoses i dont feel like getting into) have i gone "i did enough. it's okay to stop" unless it truly was. in every other moment, i feel like i am a huge fucking failure for not doing the last thing i needed to get done. for not exercising, for not seeing a friend, for eating junk food, etc. etc. etc. the negative self talk tells me im a waste of space and im wasting my time doing absolutely nothing all day but wake up, be a failure, do it again. the ONLY thing that has helped me through my depression has been adjusting to the idea that perfection is not necessary. that accomplishing some of what i wanted to do is enough. that it is okay to stop when i am exhausted because if i just keep pushing past my breaking point, i spiral and it becomes worse and the cycle all starts again--how could that be useful to me in any way whatsoever? it just reinforces in my mind that its pointless and there's no use fighting it because no matter how hard i try i will never have that "perfect" day.
so fuck that, if i did something with my day that i was proud of? THAT is enough. i am tired of being seen as broken and fragile. i am tired of being seen as abnormal or pitiful. all just because i didnt do that last thing and everyone treated me like a fucking failure because they do not understand what it is like to deal with that. i honestly don't even know if You know what its like to deal with that (as someone else has already said) but that's not my place to decide for you thats something for you to work out on your own terms. you can cope with your own mind however you want, but fuck that guilt trippy bullshit. i've had enough of it in my life and people need to know that it is OKAY to get through part of it and to make progress and to go through things at your own pace as long as it feels like its making a difference for you. they are all trying their best, and that is Good.

Every single day

@@freyvalkyr8139 Hey, sorry to hear that. Me too, lotsa days... Want to talk about it or anything?

@@freyvalkyr8139 yup

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@@freyvalkyr8139 you’re not alone, same here

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Holy shit when???

@@montymon6944 Long ago 😔👊💙

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Right near the end, where he was like "don't worry about tomorrow, just enjoy the moment. You earned it"
I need that for constant motivation

This fuck you mentallity is what helped me to ignore the voice in my head (gafe it the name ryner) luckily i don't hafe it anymore at the time being

i need an internal mark

I couldn’t imagine lol

was it fun?

Goddamit mark, stop turning off the power

sceery

Whoops, you died

Thank you. So much. I needed to hear this, so bad. I recently lost a few people very dear to me, and my life has just been pouring down that drain. I can barely get up without feeling either tired, or incredibly guilty for no reason, and this helped, so much. I'll definitely take your advice, and again, thank you.

@WoLFNardz BlueSparkz bro lemme get on your level😃

@WoLFNardz BlueSparkz no. it actually just makes no sense because it has poor grammar, and it also has no substance. you just think very highly of yourself.

@WoLFNardz BlueSparkz no. i hope you get some perspective soon. i will stop replying now. i'm sure we both have better things to do.

@@hamluk_ The Lad deleted his comments or smth?

@@hamluk_ Oh and what was happening here?

I hope your doing better friend!

love this tactic for dealing with depression because... anger is an emotion, and if you're struggling to... feel those... it can help shake you loose, as long as you don't let it become self-abusive.
I regularly tell my brain to f*ck off, we're doing the thing godDAMMIT

I'm thinking that if your negative self talk starts getting overwhelming, just imagine Mark shrieking at it to shut up. At the very least it'll make you laugh, and it may interrupt that flow of negativity for a little while. I know this won't cure anyone's depression, but having little things to do to break the habit of repetitive rumination and negative self talk can be helpful in the moment.

@@ororo94 thanks :,) ❤️

@@ororo94 this is actually pretty similar to what my therapist has mentioned when I’m dealing with guilt that has no reason to exist other than it already exists (hopefully that made sense), and to think about what other people, either in my life or out it would say if I tried explaining it to them, people whose opinions I trust, like a good friend, or if you can’t think of any, then you can try to imagine that you’re trying to see yourself where your perspective is suddenly someone else’s. Like in my case I would imagine that I’m looking at a younger version of myself whose telling me these stresses and concerns and guilts. This really helps (me at least lol) to put a lot of my stresses into perspective and to sort through which stresses are realistic to deal with, and which are kinda unrealistic or unreasonable for me to deal with. Things like feeling guilty I said something stupid yesterday to a friend or family member? Well, certain parts of that is a realistic feeling of remorse, like “I can do better next time, I can hold my temper”, but other parts, like “they must hate me now!” Or agonizing over *why* i (or you) did it, is unrealistic, is unreasonably hard on yourself. It’s ok to feel a level of “I can do better,” but it’s not really ok to keep pounding those past failures into yourself, without acknowledging that it was unrealistic to not have made the mistake. Sorry for rambling, it’s a specific topic that I feel strongly about lol.

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Same! I feckin love mark. He's helped me through a lot of bad times

Yeah! Marks great! 😂 I call my depression voice Kevin because its really hard to take it seriously. Others choose to name it Kyle or Chad or Karen too.

Indeed. Treat your rude inner monologue the way Markiplier would. lol

@@saltydinonuggies1841 i just named mine dumbass but those work too lmao.

@@saltydinonuggies1841 what exactly is a depression voice? I’ve been diagnosed with depression for nearly 4 years now and not once have I heard a “voice”. Also Google shows nothing

That thought immediately went through my head when Mark became extremely enthusiastic about the bin.

Omg I thought I'm the only one thinking that

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought that.

memories unlocked

I instantly thought of the spitoons lol

Awtar this game is very similar to the mind of a lot of people in todays age, if not afraid of others, then afraid of a sickness… really hits hard.

This game is really deep meaning

Yeah, as a person with depression this game is pretty accurate, considering it's based on the devs experience with it.

@@Hellknight101 It’s not just depression though. Its also agoraphobia and I think something else like the beginning said

@@pissum420 ah right. Is agoraphobia fear of people?

Hard agree. My best friend has been helping me tackle my ADHD/depression by constantly reminding me: you don't have to do everything, you just have to do something.

Exactly what I was thinking

yep! i know that from personal experience

My thoughts exactly.

Exactly; self-care is just as important as success. It's good to push yourself a little, but pushing too hard will just end up doing more harm than good, just like if you were working a muscle.

Yeah, I would say the game shows in a way how people like us who struggles with Depression or any other mental health issue.

From how he looks like he's gasping for breath in the ending where you force him to open the door, I think that ending is him having a panic attack in bed. It really is just too much to do everything all at once.

Small steps basically. reach a point where you feel you've done something that makes it feel earned to rest... to be calm. to not feel like you're about to suffocate.

yeah and i have other mental illnesses too and stuff so honestly just truing to do my bedding (that is clean at the foot of my bed) is exhausting

He's sleeping on a field... No tomorrow. Bells at the ending. The secret ending is about death, and how that's the final rest for the protagonist. The signs there are pretty clear. It's a very depressing game.

❤❤

wholesome

Yeah, I get that. Even doing something as simple as getting up one on of those shitty, bleak and dark days makes me feel so much better. I don't go outside on those days, but I do things in the safety of the walls I live inside that make me feel better, and that encourage me to go outside the next day, when I'm ready to.

Yeah EVERY step is an important step! Unfortunately a lot of people who have never experienced it have a hard time thinking that baby steps are much of anything. Hopefully this kind of game can touch those people and show them what reality can be like for someone who suffers from depression and/or chronic illness.

Maybe to make the plant happier 🥺

B to blow?

Maybe just to trick him that one time?

Maybe for the eyes in that one rook, or the plant
Edit: Room, I obviously meant room

i was thinking he lets them out when he goes out the front door by holding them or something

in a game those down pushing actions are actually encouraging. in front of your screen its easy to fight it, but that is no match to reality

It resonated with me too. The way Mark responds to the intrusive voice should be how I treat my depression. Alas, I’m never as kind with myself. I’m just as unforgiving as the narrator, really.

@@jkennith you can practice it ✨ every little bit helps

@@judestarbabypup you’re right! It’s just harder to recognize that voice I guess when it’s inside your head. I would never be that cruel to another person.

I think that shows perfectly what depression is. Depression isn't a 24/7 full power emotion it's fluctuating. But the moments when you attempt to do anything or even think there's always a backhanded comment.

this is late, but i feel exactly the same way about it!! the way that the protagonist has to jump hoops and retrace their steps in order to do something as simple as brush their teeth, it shows metaphorically the amount of effort it takes for someone who is depressed to do that task in real life

i mean... yeah... that is what the description of the game said in the intro so you are correct

I can tell my mental health is taking a dip when I don't take a bath or shower for several days because I just can't get myself to do it.

Depression makes you feel like the little things pile up easily, they stress your brain out.
I've met people who are like "so try doing this- try taking care of yourself" it's hard. REALLY HARD. When you feel exhausted 24/7 you stop taking care of yourself, even I have.
I don't wanna leave the house after being betrayed so many times by people. I wanna stay home where I can forget and not care. But outside or inside, it doesn't get better.
Especially when someone young doesn't have the opportunity or freedom to get help.
Once it happens, you can't get out.

i think also the fact that everything is a threat. like when I have to take a shower I constantly fret over like, what if there's a serial killer waiting to jump out and kill me, what if the shampoo is actually nair, what if the water levels get fucked and I burn my skin off, what if the house catches on fire while im in there, what if there's a zombie apocalypse and no one can tell me because im in the shower. ANYWAY all this to say I think the game is good because it kinda forces to be in that depressive anxiety-ridden mindset.

Thank you for this. I wish I could thank everyone, and there's really nothing stopping me from doing that, but your comment was the one that really got to me hardest. It's hard... it's really, really hard. I have goals, ideals, wishes hopes dreams and so many things that I WANT to do... but I never have the motivation... or the energy... "maybe tomorrow".
Reading again what you said, what other have said, I need to change the way I look at it all. Stop looking at the distant goals of where I _WANT_ to be, but look at the closer ideas, and get to where I _CAN_. Brush my hair, brush my teeth, shower once a day. If it's to much, there's nothing wrong with laying down, but I have to do at least one thing before I can. Make *THAT* the new routine. One thing a day, and if you're up to it, maybe do two things, and keep doing that, until one day you're doing five things a day, and now you want to try something new.
So much has happened in my life in the last four months, and I only have the rest of my life to make it better than before.
One step at a time.
One small victory.
Just one at a time.

Turning your hovel into a home is a big step, otherwise there's always that feeling that you're running away from the pile of work waiting at home for you.
Taking care of yourself, and accepting that you're worth taking care of is the first step of many. Absolutely agree that it starts with small victories and kicking bad habits.

@@rannma1 I feel you...
I was where you are atm
I wish you all the best and lots of love

I love this comment because the game really does that well. Just watching Mark play it helped me drag myself out of bed and feed myself on a day where My depression made me feel like I couldn’t leave my bed before 7 pm. So much respect for the game maker!

@@rannma1 Well fucking said. I'm going to get better. I'll celebrate all the things I've done and not worry about what I haven't.

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@@wrlds1733 ♥️

You've got that depressing inner voice down to a T. So true. It can be saying shit absolutely insane and mean, but to you it's just an everyday numb feeling.

What’s worse is, even if you *know* that voice is lying, you know the scientific reason you’re thinking these things, and you even understand the layers of everything going on with your head…that voice still feels like the real “truth.” Like it’s the only thing giving you facts, and everything else is lies.

Words well spoken

100% correct. The problem with actual depression is that it's not just a temporary feeling that goes away once you get outside. It's a problem of dealing with yourself and your thoughts. You have low self worth, you compare yourself to others, nothing you do is good enough, you can always be better but you don't measure up and you beat yourself up about it.
Beating depression, particularly the long and serious cases, is about accepting small victories.
You tidied yourself up and did you chores. Well done. I know you are exhausted. You did really well. Don't push yourself into a corner, overwhelm yourself and fall into old habits and give up because of how bad it felt to keep pushing.
Progress feels good. It's why alot of gamers are depressed. Because games are an easy and artificial way to feel progress. Taking measurable progressive steps in your life is the best way out.
You don't shower? Make your goal to try and shower that day. Once you manage to do it, appreciate that you did. Once you've made that a routine, try to add something else. Keep making step by step improvements and appreciating your progress.
DO NOT OVERWHELM YOURSELF. Every time you overwhelm yourself and give up, you make it a bit harder to get better the next time you try. Appreciate your efforts. Lying in bed after a hard day's work feels really good. On some days, that looks like doing a singular chore. Appreciate that effort.

@@Wraith101
The problem lies in when anhedonia comes into play. I've been depressed for a third of my total lifespan and either can't feel the victory anymore or can't recognize when I do. Some things/days _do_ feel like victories, but others simply don't, even if I'm doing the exact same quality of progress. It's unpredictable. Unreliable.

I very much relate.

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Fuck my ass!

"But Mark, it's an ASSet!"
I love puns. :) Don't mind me too bad, please.

Depression is an absolutely awful disease to suffer from which so, so many don't take seriously which angers me no end. It's like a permanent empty feeling leaving you utterly bereft with Jo motivation, no hope, no emotion. Just nothing. I honestly don't know what gets me out of bed every day, it's just an automatic response. But, I just think why should others enjoy their life while I don't?

@@SamuelBlack84 fuck your depression. I say that with love as I've been there, but what kept me going was the opposite of what you said. I thought if I can't be happy, I could at least help others be happy. I started volunteering for churches, helped others study, spent time with lonely people and it didn't fix it. But it did make it better. And everyday I get more and more better, and I hope you get there too.

That's all I was thinking of every time he chose to stick his hands into everything.

Man that game was a treat, hopefully we'll have a let's play like that soon, i want to laugh hard

I was thinking about this too

Why do I still remember that?

@@xSkysilver cuz it's super memorable?

Me: yay anxiety is actually useful for once :/

The only way

Me who's trapped in a constant loop of anxiety and depression: Yeah... I don't think you want to do that

@YeaMan get gud

@KelvinBB get gud

I can totally agree with this. When I was watching I felt like a lot of this hit hard.
I have Dysthymia and ADHD, and at the end of the video when he was talking about the game and what he thought and he was staring straight at the camera really made me go into tears.
I didn't expect that to hit me hard, but it did.
Here's to tomorrow. 🥂
(Edit: clarification/typos)

Yeah flesh eating bugs are the worst, almost makes me want to stay in bed and not deal with them.

There are actually bugs like that, if I'm not mistaken, called army ants. Fuckers move around in giant colonies just eating and eating. Don't know if they can eat a person in minutes but I wouldn't doubt it

Yoo u should check out dr k on KRplus, he’s a psychiatrist that actually gives out good advice. And his videos actually help me a lot, thx to him I just finished my first year of med school. Before finding his channel I was filled with anxiety and depression. Tho if u don’t wanna check out his channel my biggest advice would try meditation.

Especially the broken mirrors for me was very relatable in a very painful tho I've been getting better by talking to people and slowly been able to see my old self again my real self and if anyone needs to talk just ask me it'll also help me alot to help someone and make myself feel more useful

i think this compounded with the fact that though you may not have stepped out for fresh air, the list of progress you *did* make is something you're happily looking back on as you claim that rest for the well-earned rest that it is. it's not just giving up on a day and rolling into bed, its laying down for proper rest after making a concerted effort and having the progress to show for it

That's what depression and sadness wants you to think you got fight it no matter how much it looks cruel and dark you got fight for your true happiness

Yeah... better to end the day on a good note rather than open yourself up for risk. So says my depression and anxiety, anyway.

You know I do that sometimes

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This. I've literally been telling myself I'm gonna sort my shit out for about five years now, every day I just say I'll start the next day.
The accuracy hits

As the saying goes, Rome wasn't built in a day.

im dancing on marks nieces grave LOL

@@fluffy698 Yeah but it sure fell to utter ruin real quick when people stopped building it.

@@dioakolo mmmm nah

Well said

While that is true, it can also be a trap. Planning to do everything difficult, everything that takes work, everything that you need to push yourself to do tomorrow means you'll never accomplish it. It's a crutch. And crutches can help you heal. But spend your whole life on crutches and you'll never be able to walk forward on your own.

@@kaileenabonaduce227 Just an insight but what if this specific ending is only the start of, say, a more healthier lifestyle. Sure you didn’t come out and stayed into your comfort zone, but you organized yourself so that you could do much better in the long run. Perhaps things aren’t exactly done in a day, and this specifically was shown as a start to think more positively than you initially were. I could still be wrong but that’s my thoughts on this one

I'd have to beg to differ. The "Good" ending just shows our character here once again giving into the narrator, aka the badgering voice in our head that shackles us into the mindset that we are useless. Taking it at face value it makes absolutely zero sense for us to listen to this badgering narrator at the very end of things and most people clearly chose not to... and we get punished for doing so, despite how before hand this narrator never had our best interest at heart and exists to put us down at every curve... But even in the context of this narrator personifying the thoughts of someone who is depressed and is not in control of those thoughts, and Im speaking as someone who HAS gone through this and even spent 2 years of my life as a shut in... The fact that the player is presented our hyper exaggerated worse case scenario for stepping outside is such a terrible message to send to people.
Don't get me wrong, that first step to facing your fear and stepping out into the real world again is terrifying and the hardest part of the journey to bettering oneself... But once you take that step it slowly becomes clear how groundless that fear is and how absurd that voice in your head is. To have this admittedly grand build up of surpassing these little failures and trying again, pushing a little further with each nonsensical death only to invalidate the whole process and making you feel only a little better by just collapsing in your bed personally infuriated me because... Yes it's easy to tell yourself you made small victories and made those pushes forward... But what does it mean if you're still making the same mistakes, not taking on the bigger hurdles and resigning yourself to the smaller ones?
The thing is, this narrator... That voice in your head? It's not your friend. It does not truly have your best interest at heart, it only wants you to supply the minimum amount of dopamine through escapism while feeding you lies about the world around you... But while it is hard, it is possible to push through it, to not let your thoughts control you. Instead the author claims we're better off in this loop with the occasional small win. I've seen people who choose this, saying that they're fighting depression their own way... But it's a trap. That huge hurdle isn't gonna be any easier to clear tomorrow then it is today, so instead of resigning yourself to this idea that one day you'll magically have the strength to try that hurdle... I think people should realize they ALWAYS have thay strength. They always at any time have the capacity to change and begin their journey to a better mindset.

@@wickthetrickster461 In the game, going outside is a bad end. You should never push yourself to the point of panic, or it being so much that you can't function. Your options are to go to sleep, or to go outside; a bad end. The voice in your head is still you, there is nobody else in your head but you. I've struggled with depression for years, and all I gained by forcing myself when it was too much was a big pile of absolutely nothing. You don't improve by hurting yourself. That's not how it works.

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My 3 year old daughter thinks SpongeBob is cheese.... 😂😂

@@KatTheTarantulaKeeper he's not? I've done been bamboozled.

I don’t think the spite is unhealthy, I think it’s our subconscious knowing that the things we’ve heard and the thing that our unhealthy mind tries to tell us aren’t actually the truth. I think it’s the *real* us fighting thru the darkness. And any victory, even the ones we do in spite, are valid and worth celebrating 💛

It may not be healthy but it works, and one day you might be able to reach a healthier mindset. Your progress is something to take pride in. I wish you all the best.

This reminded me of Murphy's war law. If it's stupid but works, it isn't stupid. You have to persist in existing, things will gradually get better. One day you'll find out you won't need anger anymore to fight your depression. Good luck! We believe in you.

My therapist said anger is just the feeling you get when you know you aren't being treated right, so i'd say that this isn't necessarily a bad approach

I prefer anger over sadness and numbness too , and if you control your anger so you don't fell burnout or destroy anything , It is actually pretty healthy , because you can get rid of the frustrations , same thing about crying , sometimes you need to cry the same way that sometimes you need to fell anger , you need all your emotions to keep on going through life you just need to be careful to not really to much on them

As another really struggling agoraphobic, would you like to make a connection and support one another?

Are you alive!?

this is great and all but im selling a door

IS THAT KRINKELS CREATOR OF POPULAR ONLINE ANIMATED SERIES MADNESS COMBAT??!?!?

@@toasty7775 yes

depression

or maybe just sarcasm

Yeah I interpreted it as sarcasm from the narrator

Your interpretations are good too tho!

@@RoseOnFire why thank you :)

@@RoseOnFire yeah I thought it was just like haha funny you died but its cool to speculate on it having deeper meaning