Tesla Model S PLAID Impressions: Re-Inventing the Wheel!
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- 게시일 2021. 07. 21.
- PLAID Model S is stupid fast. And is better built than ever. But that yoke tho
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Officer: "Can I see your license and registration please?"
You: Sorry, my car ate it"
"Stand back officer, ill do a quick 0-130 and ill have it for you in no time"
lol
hahahahahaahah
😂😂😂
Officer would never catch me
5:08 But officer, I HAD to go 137mph so I could GET my registration to show you!
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Bruh
The tesla steering "wheel" looks good, but is dangerous as fuck. The classic round steering wheel is a better design because it enables you to grab the steering wheel from any angle. Its more accessible, especially when you need to quickly grab the wheel with both hands to do a last munite maneuver to avoid something.
just say your old and cant handle new shit
Bruuuuuuuuuh
@@oneshot1kill158 I'm 37
The classic "reinventing the wheel" phenomenon -- with all downside & little to no upside.
@Will Swift f1 has 360 degrees of lock this has 1080 the steering wheel on the plaid is a handful at low speeds in f1 you can turn 90 degrees and that’s full lock
I think the yoke its self is fine as well and it's the buttons that are a problem. The big one for me is the horn. The horn is something that you need to be able to use in an instant. I can think of many times where I was cut off and if I honked a second later, I would of been hit.
BMW driver stereotype: never uses a signal while changing lanes.
Tesla driver stereotype: turns on both signals, the windshield wipers, honks the horn and turns on the radio while making a turn
😂😂
🤣🤣
The thing is people don't notice when a the driver in a Ford Fiesta doesn't signal and you just don't remember it, but everyone notices anyone in a luxury car making a mistake.
@@robertp457 Not every BMW is a luxury car.
hahahaha
Me as a broke and poor person that I can't afford a bicycle, watching carefully the video of Marques and very worried about the steering wheel problem :)
Same boat. But the car looks nice 🙃
haha, same here
Bruh
😂🤣 I love comments like this complain about been broke. get your lazy butt up you think money come to you bitching sitting there 😂🤣
Don't worry.
Honesty and sharing the unbiased own view is key in success and retaining credibility. And this is why i love your videos/reviews so much! Exceptional work...over and over again!! Keep it on. Greetings from Switzerland
A really great review Marques. First time on this channel and impressed with your knowledge and thoughts on the Plaid. Keep up the good work.
*Me, a broke 20-something year old watching a review of a $140k car*
You know what? The steering wheel is the deal breaker for me
they just give their thoughts lol
Definitely. The Yoke is a deal breaker. I definitely won't be getting one now.
Me with my $3000 honda accord
agreed
I don’t have air conditioning, but I do have a full leather wrapped steering wheel with physical buttons. Luxury
Cannot imagine turning my "wheel" 200 degrees for a round-a-bout then having to find the turn signals for exiting the round-a-bout. Mind-boggling design.
Ikr it's ridiculous. And people are *actually* going to buy this car and they might be brainwash into liking it....
(I know not *everything* about the car is bad, but a lot of it is *severely* poorly designed. Well most their cars are I guess but this is just ridiculous.)
I doubt this steering wheel is even legal in Norway. The turn signal in a roundabout was my first thought when I saw the blinker buttons. I've struggled with that in Euro Truck Simulator with my G27 wheel and the physical buttons on it for turn signals.
Also, going from this car to my other cars and vice versa is going to be a challenge if I was to get one
Yep was thinking the same.
@@Autunite The first thing I thought was "fuck, it's like having to relearn indicators in ETS2"
I ended up remapping the paddle shifts to left and right indicators, and using the H-shifter and a couple of the buttons on the shifter assembly as splitters.
Yokes aren’t supposed to need such angles of turning. It’s supposed to be able to do most turns with 90 degrees turns, so your hands always stay on the grip. The issue with that car is that they put a yoke on a standard steering rack.
Marques, I'm a newcomer to your channel. Man, you are very thorough, very honest, and very real in your day-to-day reviews of EVs...Loved the F-150 Review, Loved the Rivian review, and loved this review. Great job staying objective for the weary and interested but more importantly to yourself! Great Job young man!
Dear Marque, that was a "word class" description about the most weird decisions Tesla engineers and marketing took.. the yoke.
Really I enjoyed so much the way you approached and describe your experience with the steering wheel.
This is the reason you have so many subscribers in this channel. You have a "charisma" as we are using to say in Greece.
Keep up the good work you are doing!
Take care 🙋♂️
I love tech, big touch screens, etc., but some physical buttons are actually a very good thing in a car.
Actually they are the best thing. While driving you don't want to be going threw menus etc, it's dangerous. You should be able to click something fast and easy. Car computers are stupid and on top of that they make the electric wiring of the car very complicated and the car overall more prone to electrical issues with all kind of things going wrong, from censors top chips etc.
The less you have the better.
My proposal is all manufacturers should put all basic factions in buttons and instead of putting an entertainment unit they should just have an adjustable space on the main console were you can put a smartphone or even a tablet and have it connect with the car and it's speakers etc and be able to use that. They can have an app for the car that they update etc.
Absolutely!
100%. I'd love a Tesla if right under the screen there were auxiliary climate buttons and a volume knob. That's all I'm asking for.
Thank you!
@@SIPEROTH Couldn't have said it better
Kinda a deal breaker for me
Same thing with the first manned SpaceX Launch Rocket can't see any button only one big ass screen it feel to cartoonish for me
Congrats Marques, the steering wheel buttons stress me daily.... should have placed the blinkers like Ferrari does, and some more buttons on the back of the steering wheel that could be customized, forward, reverse, etc...
Do you find yourself accidentally clicking buttons when turning over the wheel?
Also the headlights freak me out. It seems so easy to have high beams on without realizing it
@@marsstarlink3235 yes, and I find my self always looking down at the wheel for which turn signal to use...
Are you really Brooks ?
@@DragTimes but isn’t this something that could be fixed by an aftermarket supplier? Although of course it should be an option from Tesla themselves, to be able to specify stalks or no stalks or have another version of the wheel with more tactile button differentiation.
As usual for you this review adds in so much detail that everyone else misses. Thanks Marques!
Great video..respect for Marques.. an excellent, honest, knowledgable impression of my dream car.
Marques’ “First Impressions” are other KRplusrs’ “Full Reviews”
Indeed
Setting benchmarks and building on them every time. Like he wishes apple would
He didnt even drive the car in this ‘review’
Also youtubers:welp time to buy some Tesla's😀
@@AmmarMalik what would you discern from watching him drive? he drove it 800 miles and explained the whole experience, what else do you want?
The yoke is a deal breaker for me, aside from the fact that well, I’m poor.
Yoke aside, the touch-activated controls is a deal breaker for me. What a shitty thing to do, put touch buttons on an area where your thumbs might accidentally hit while turning the wheel.
I LOLed a little :)
just work harder /s
@@RyoHazuki224 Tesla is doing it the Apple way, giving a huge middle finger to every consumer "We dont care what you want". They just want to cut costs. It's cheaper to have less parts and have everything just controlled via a PCB board and electronics and possibly a touchscreen, rather than physical parts for that. It has the only upside, that theoretically less can break. That only comes to play though, when you build shitty quality. The clear downside is, it decreases safety cause you often have to look where you touch a button, so you take your eyes off the street, and the other downside is, once one tiny part breaks, you cant fix it, you have to replace the whole thing. As it was shown in RichRebuilds where they guy was told by tesla he had to buy a whole new battery pack for 16 grand because some tiny part for the cooling broke after being hit by debris on the street. Yeah Environment! Elon is so full of shit.
@@maxmeier532 Consumers only know they wanted something, after they get it. So unless you happen to have a Plaid, STFU
Highly agree on the wheel. It's not broke and we're all trained over decades to feel the car that way. Excellent video, really good points.
I have installed the yoke on my 2018 model 3 and really like it. The big difference is that my model 3 has the two stalks and makes it easier to use, without the extra functions on the yoke. Did not take a long time to get use to, have always driven with my hands on the nine and three o’clock position.
Steering yoke: creating a solution for a problem that didn't exist, and thereby creating a problem that didn't exist. (edited: corrected typo)
... Yoke*
Elon CON 🤡 did it
SAAB tried replacing the steering wheel in a prototype callerd the Prometheus with a joystick control in the late 80s/early 90s.....suffist to say it mever made it to market
True
thats like creating a human baby
It's clear this car is made for America, imagine going round a roundabout and having to indicate you are going off while turning that yoke around.
damn that's a very good point
We do have roundabouts in the U.S.
The few we have around here in Ohio they don't use their signals anyway. Though to be perfectly honest, they don't use them anywhere.
@@Oxibase nowhere near as many though, and he’s right that would be very difficult to do on the yolk. Already know this from trying to skip tracks or change volume while going round corners
Roundabouts don’t need turn signals. It’s a continuous flow
Great video! This was really interesting to watch.
The Sterring wheel is a bit of a let down.
I had thought the whole reason these manufacturers had moved to that rectangular design is to eliminate having to turn the wheel multiple times, and instead just turn up the sensitivity, so for most turns you'd barely turn the wheel, and then for tight turns you just turn it all the way left or right.
Unfortunately, it looks like they still want you to turn the normal way, which, as you've shown is a little awkward with that shape of steering wheel.
Actually, I'm not even sure if they can call that a steering "Wheel" anymore. More like a steering block.
There is a yoke wheel hybrid I had years ago for a computer game that may actually solve a few of those issues. Also in my Camaro there are paddle shifters which i rarely use but once again may provide a solution for another of the yokes issues. Other than that it looks really cool and I hope to have the opportunity to drive one sometime in the near future
The horn should be the easiest "button" to hit, having to reach that button in an awkward position could cost a life. I thought that was regulated and changing the position was illegal.
If you hit either side of the wheel either your palm it honks the horn. He just didn't read the owners manual.
Is the Tesla a product that somehow bypassed regulation? Or is the reviewer an idiot who didn’t read the manual
@Enzo Morf read the owner’s manual!!
@@jonvanbrunning4294 But the customer shouldn't be expected to read the owner's manual. The horn should be the most intuitive part of the car. The majority of customers aren't going to read the owner's manual, and in a life or death situation, the horn should be intuitive
@@SuperMustache555 well, it’s their fault for not reading it, innit?
The way he retrieved his paper is hilarious
I think in tears of the steering wheel making a half circle with the horizontal downwards would have been a good starting point to get people use to it.
So by adjustment you can either do NSEW depending on view that is post preferable.
Very interesting with the yoke... here in the uk I'm taking driving lessons and we're taught to steer with a push pull method and not to cross our arms over when moving the wheel.
With the new yoke you're basically forced to spin your arms around to steer..
Dont “feed” the wheel, its dangerous
I expect 3rd party steering wheels being real popular to combat a lot of these yoke and touch button issues. If they can be retrofitted and function 100%.
You can't do that
Theres gotta be a way to pull it off, the issue would be tricking Tesla's software though. But it wouldnt be the first battle fought on the side of consumers against Tesla trying to control that sorta thing from what I understand lol, to varying levels of success
@@Losevaiper Never say never haha
Will Tesla allow it. They are basically Apple of car industry
@@sorryi6685 💯. Nailed it. They are definitely anti right to repair, mod etc...
"There's magnets everywhere"
Me waiting for marques to pull out the magnet paper😂😂😂
lol yeah
😂😂😂😂😂😐
Wait for the full review. I'm sure he will. 😂
I’ve been driving for 58 years and would LOVE TO TRY this new system! I don’t think it would take but 10 minutes to fall in love with it. Not a single worry.
Dude the present day is insaaane. These days and even more in the future, we'll be like "how fast does your car go?" "163 MPH but it will get increased to 200 MPH the next software update"
Simple, critical analysis. That’s why I love this guy’s reviews.
20 mins isn't simple
@@fromis.9 for a car, it is.
@@fromis.9 Alright do yours then
"critical"
Yeah, unlike his biased apple reviews.
That steering "wheel" is a perfect example of design over function
It's a yoke at this point
Better hope that thing has a tight steering ratio or low speed turns are gonna be a fucking pain
@@cherrypepsi2815 it has the same steering ratio as the old model s
@@Ban00 cringe
That steering wheel looks like it would be just awful to drive with.
It's a yoke.
Great insights. Thank you Marques. Best of luck with the PLAID!
Great review as always Marcus. I appreciate your objectivity, candor, and the fact that you are well spoken. You know what you're talking about and your sentiments reflect what a lot of people are thinking about this car. The yolk is one thing, but there should be raised buttons on the back of each side of the steering wheel for the turn signals(as with some Ferraris) and the horn definitly needs to be placed in the middle again. That is a safety issue to prevent people from lane drifting, stepping out in front of you, roundabouts, or Slackers who aren't watching the stop light turn green.
I really love the car, as long range, but as it is now, the buttons, not the yoke, are a DEALBREAKER. Safety is important. Why doesn't a car with so many cameras provide a 360 bird's-eye view for parking when cars that cost half as much do?!
"You better not cut me off or I'm going to accidentally turn on my wipers at you!"
" ok, cool down mate, doesn't warrant such an insult"
This car seems like a whole lot of "engineering solutions to problems that don't really exist"...
Damn exactly
Apple be ~ first tymm..????
Tbh I don’t see any solutions, only more problems…..
It's called thinking outside the box. You obviously don't seem to get it but that's fine since you'll never own one anyway.
@@koushiks3326 🤣🤣
Dude I could listen to you talk about anything for hours. 👏👏👏
Do you think they could fix that with a software update? They could just disable the touch on the wheel as one turns. It does make me interested in certain small decisions with those items.
Imagine VALETS on google trying to understand how to drive the thing! LOL
Dang, I didn't think of that. That should suck for em.
Who is valets tho
@@samuraiboi2735 people who clean cars
Valet?
If you're spending $130,000 on a Tesla, you're also obviously getting full self-driving (smart summon and auto park)
Lmao why would I need a valet when I already have Autopark and Summon.
To quote Gilfoyle from Silicon Valley, "It's addressing problems that don't exist. Its solutionism at its worst".
That's exactly how I feel about the Auto-shift feature too. I don't need my car to remember how I got into a spot, I instinctually know how to get out of it before I even enter the car again. I either put it in drive or reverse, no guess work required by my car and no stress hoping that the car guessed correctly. It literally does not save any time or reduce the drivers mental load at all, in fact it does the complete opposite.
Exactly, why fix something that isn't broken?
Sounds like the American way...
@@GlennC789 idk man, the yoke is usually in fast cars because they want both hands on the wheel not one at 12 o clock. especially with a car over 1000 hp
@@sean_mc I hope you guys know that the auto shift feature isn't a locked-on feature. You can turn that feature off in the settings and shift it like a normal car by swiping up or down on the touchscreen.
Dude I love your reviews! Glad to see your still putting out great content. I am waiting on my Long Range Model S Red.
hey buddy, thanks for the insightful information in your videos and style with which you present it
When Marques starts talking about the yoke I'm like "ah, I could get used to it, and the horn in it has a big and nice "horn space" in the middle" and 5 minutes later I'm like "oh no, no, what have they done??"
@Nekrasov 😂 yup definitely not a space problem
Yeah, I've had these same concerns. Yoke - can get used to that. Capacitive buttons - not happy about that. No massive horn button - that's just a bad call and unsafe.
In Europe is very very probably that they wouldn't allow it
@Nekrasov my 99 mercedes did not have a horn in the traditional middle spot. It instead had two buttons on either side of the wheel so you can honk easily without having to take your hands off the wheel.
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The ergonomics of the steering wheel is ridiculous.
I think the yoke is just an awful idea.
Actually, most people who have now used Yoke love it, they don't want to go back to wheel....but almost all have same issues with "touch" buttons like MB
@@archigoel i think partially for loving it so much are novelty factor and brand loyalty. Cos i dont think making a u turn in this thing would be half as nice as on a circle wheel but again i could be wrong
*are not *is
*Like bro its a car not a goddamn Cessna*
I got a tesla model S inspired yoke installed made by Hansshow on my model 3. I love how i have a Stalk for changing lanes , activating the wiper blades and gear selection physically. Yoke innitself is fun to drive and easy to get use to. Its the Haptic buttons that are throwing people off. Yoke in a Model 3 is a must buy and cool great upgrade to all the Tesla Model 3 owners!
Thanks for the great video! To answer your question, think one could have the option for a regular steering wheel or the yoke! Think that would actually better sales as some drivers are not so keen on the change! Maybe Tesla will reevaluate this in time 😅
I drove Model S Plaid 2 weeks ago and I can confirm it's absolutely as wild as Marques says. You feel like you're blasting into space every time you floor it.
Yep that’s what happens when you own a space and a car company
Hey checkmark
No way 😳
@@Jayismynickname literally nothing to do with spacex
@@manaspradhan8041 guess it was a bad joke
Imagine having a car that is almost perfect except the steering wheel.. lol
It’s not like you use it that much
Same thought bro
Exactly that steering wheel is so inconvenient, I think tesla did it on purpose to get some sort of profits in the future
10 and 2. terrible steering wheel. should give options
@@Kooler_1 yo same display picture
Really concise and good at explaining things…thanks
I plan on saving for a plaid this looks awesome man thanks for the vid I just subbed for more vids
You are the only KRplusr who suggested that the horn should have been on the airbag cover in the middle of the steering. That was my exact thought when I first saw a review of the model s plaid.
While pressing the horn on the airbag when accident happened it's not the best place to be where the hands on.
Or at least easy to reach with your thumb. I mean if he can't reach the thing, none of us can lol. There's been plenty of cars over the years with the horn button placed off like this, but I've never seen it out of reach. Pretty counterintuitive.
@@kzero1499 Agreed. When you need the horn it's not rarely a matter of fractions of a second, it's urgent, the faster you can get to the horn the better. It can literally in some cases save lives.
This solution with a hard-to-reach touch button likely adds a second or even more to the total time before you can sound the horn. I feel it's kind if a dangerous choice Tesla made.
The other touch buttons, while not intuitive, is more of an annoyance type problem rather than potentially a dangerous one.
That's where RTFM helps, they actually made covering the entire right touchpanel trigger the horn too.
But interestingly, cutting the upper steering was made to improve the visiblity of the gauges... but they didn't cut it to see properly the main/big screen?
@@mannydcbianco Definitely. I had an old NA Miata and they placed the horn buttons on both sides of the wheel right next to your thumb and it was actually pretty great when you needed the horn asap, it's literally right there don't even have to adjust your hand placement. Tesla dropped the ball here.
I'm also worried about the 'phantom wheel' as he pointed out. I can easily imagine in an emergency, even after getting used to the yoke, people will still go to grab for things that are no longer there and cause issues.
"Slow muscle memory remap" is a pretty big undergoing in a dangerous environment like traffic...
Other Plaid owners here on YT don't seem to have that issue
@@2nd3rd1st because they are not someone who used car for 10 years?
@@2nd3rd1st due to the fact that everyone on the planet, except for Formula 1 drivers maybe, are musculary used to a circular steering wheel, untill you get in a situation when you have no time to think about your further actions you would really not notice any difference. But when such a situation happens, your brain and muscles, which were used to just roll the wheel fast to avoid anything bad or just press the horn, will do it just by the instinct. Such a wheel really needs to be driven a lot with just for your arms to get used to the motion in which everything goes well.
@@vsevolod2563 Race cars have a very quick steering ratio so it's like driving a normal car.
You'll very rarely need to make huge steering adjustments in a driving emergency. In fact, those would be dangerous overcorrections.
This guy has great points in his personal analogy n his experience with this new TESLER CAR .
Absolutely amazing review! you knocked it out the park once again..
The Yoke steering wheel would actually be the one thing that would hold me back from getting one
I can see no benefit in this yoke
Huge deal breaker for me
That and then the touch buttons it's too much and something you use the most in the car
I would at least test drive it first to see if I like it.
@@TBetter i dont need to… I know with 100% certainty i do not want that. I also cant get over the missing gear selector…. Like WTF?
Touch controls on the steering column seems like such a bad idea. Not being able to to have the tactile response of a physical thing moving is extremely non-intuitive, and potentially unsafe.
Same can be said for the entire screen
@@puddlebarf after 18 months of owning a Model 3..... I entirely agree, wiper controls etc being on the touchscreen is very dangerous in bad weather on narrow, twisty European roads
leave to Tesla to fix something that wasn't broken. lol
@@audigex im pretty sure they're banned from being used while on the road in Germany, punished by fine
maybe they should be physical buttons, but forcing the driver to hit a button then make the turn, instead of having a lever that can be knocked whilst making the turn i think should results in better signaling.
Your impressions were pretty much spot on when you made this video. They do indeed offer the new wheel now. I got the plaid as a loaner and not having the left and right arms beside the steering wheel was a PITA thats for sure. The yolk was ok, the slide shifting was just terrible. I'm happy with my M3P. Its good enough for me. lol
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That steering wheel is the most "innovation for innovations sake" thing I've ever seen. Looks so much less functional than a regular steering wheel.
Basicly over engineered. I am sure in the Lab they also have a Xbox One controller as the steering wheel. Detachable.
I can see a pro being theres nothing in the way of seeing the speedometer and the road. And they prolly wanted to do something to further distance this model from the original model s. Still not good tho
I see aviation and F1 influence with that yoke
i think they wanted to flex its speed. by using a similar design to F1 cars. it would be nice if there were options. should be swappable.
The point is if you have a yoke "like in F1 cars" you should also be able to take any turn with a max. 90 degree twist to each side, you know, like in an F1 car.
If you have to do 2 turns with a yoke, it's actually a joke.
It’s just hilarious that while accelerating his registration piped out 😂
Good job Plaid
I am 71 with 48 years of driving manual and automatic sedans and pickup. I drive steering with one hand (left or right, holding the sides or bottom parts of the wheel) which I almost never take off the wheel. The controls, as long as these are not sensitive to accidental touches, are alright where these are now. Of course, I am just imagining since there are almost no Tesla, more so no Plaid model. I wish I could be there, drive the Plaid and give a more. Intelligent input. Btw, keep up with your nonchalant and info loaded style of delivering your message. More power.
I watch your videos esp. electronic gadgets and you're definitely a tech-head with a pretty much unbiased opinion. But most of all you speak clear and explain well. But regarding this Tesla S Plaid I have to admit a friend that test drove it loved the speed, acceleration but the steering wheel is soooo uncomfortable. It's like a F1 race car, pretty ridiculous. THANX 4 THE VIDEO !!
Imagine someone snatching your plaid badge at a Walmart parking lot 😂
Why would anyone driving a Tesla go to Walmart?
@@ojjoooooo why can’t they?
@@plastiquemaraj8839 I think the joke is that if someone can afford this car they can afford to go to fancier stores?
@@sethiest Exactly, the European equivalent would be a german Herr Doktor in an S-Class going to McDonalds. Lmao
This is why we have sentry-cam.
Why the hell are car manufacturers adding MORE touch controls in cars? A car is one thing where tactile, easy to use without looking controls are essential.
Exactly! I remember driving a Tesla for the first time. The AC was on full blast so I tried to lower it. Of course keeping my eye on the road , I tried to find the ac controls on the screen .. Instead, I raised the volume to the radio and blasted my ears. 🤦♂️
Now I’m freezing and blowing my ears up 😔
Premium car manufactures are going back to physical knobs and buttons.
Touch is the cheap way to do it.
Couldn’t agree more
Remember the backlash when Honda removed the volume knob?
@@AP-qu8sl Volume and Climate control are one thing I’ll never accept Being taken away
Cost cutting, cost cutting = better margin
I drive a Polestar, so no dog in the fight. I think the Model S is a beautiful car.
But I wanted to compliment you on this video. You've got a great mannerism, you balance your perspective... I come away with great respect for and faith in your review. Well done.
I love how you have mastered the review of materialistic things and evolving with time I know you have many more creative ideas to come🔥🚀🛫
Tesla: How do we make Autopilot necessary?
Answer: Make the steering wheel unsafe to use.
yea i was thinking exactly the same thing. there is no reason to not use an actual circle for cars like this. and the lack of physical buttons tilts me too.
Imagine that a beta software is allowed to use for self driving
It's unbelievable
Next version won't have a wheel or yoke, but just a pair of knotted ropes extending from holes in the dash.
Uh oh, here comes the guy that’s afraid of losing his driving job.
The whole idea of placing important signal controls (horn/blinkers/light) onto a rotating yoke, is just... ludicrous.
Try finding and turning on the blinkers as you are exiting a roundabout .. impossible and dangerous.
Those controls on the steering wheel work (somewhat) for high-speed cars like Lamborghinis where you do not rotate much at high speed; not cars that you expect to drive daily in the city to the supermarket.
Ferrari had been doing that for years. And everybody driving an modern Ferrari hates it. At least a Ferrari is normal steering wheel.
Yokes rotate... also yeah thats a steering wheel
I would have made the steering wheel transparent if visibility was the issue, I bet there exist some material that can be used that is safe and practical.
Great review! Can't wait to see the Cadillac Lyriq review!
he is very interesting to listen to and has a manner of talking that is clear and draws you in somehow...
I dont have the car and will probably never own it yet I watched the whole video lol first thought check it the car out but ended up listening to him for a while
Probably accounts for his near 15 million subscribers
Why are we commenting like he doesn’t run the page and see these 👀😂
I agree totally though.. he is vulnerable and explains his thoughts real time with in depth commentary. Very personable and makes it feel like he’s just talking to you individually
@@miniclip9hero If he had around 35k subs like me he'd probably see the comment. With near 15 million subs... he probably only sees an extremely small portion of the comments
Idek why tf I was watching this.😭
8:06 - ''Most people will never need any of that''
*smiles in German*
Why would you excelerate that fast.
We couldn't have the Autobahn in the us because it would go to shit and more people would die every day than died in Iraq lol
@Therio isn't he talking about excelerating? Why would you need to go from 0-100 in a few seconds? It isn't about raw speed it is about how fast can you get there.
@@BrendanBrown1 na it would be fine probably. The bad part would be continued finding
Hallo
Love this thanks, best review IV seen 👌🏾
This guy is amazing, he notices everything. He need to be a consultant for most companies he reviews :)
The yoke is the Windows 8 of steering wheels. A company “fixing” what ain’t broken and forcing people to retrain to their dumb aesthetic of form over function.
Muscle memory is the main catalyst here. Give it a few days and people will get used to it.
@@HarrisonAdAstra i see ur defending teslas bad moves everywhere. fanboy? musk simp?
@@HarrisonAdAstra It comes down to the driver’s personality. Some are willing to sacrifice for fashion. Others can’t fathom investing in a functionally inferior design, even if they can adapt to it.
@@HarrisonAdAstra I think there's an easy partial solution here. Marques's issue is mainly with the buttons, not the wheel. And specifically, mainly accidentally hitting them when turning or other maneuvers. Tesla can reduce the press sensitivity when turning the wheel so that it takes a more "enthusiastic" button press to trigger an event. Not just turning, but just looking over the pattern of data they get on misclick events vs. the pattern of data they get on deliberate-click events in general for correlations. I imagine that they can get the misclick rate way down with some smart software.
I still agree that they should have gone with physical buttons for the steering wheel. The steering wheel is where things are supposed to be activated by feel, not by looking. It's when you have to take your hands away from the wheel that you're forced to look (unless you like to fumble around), and touchscreens are thus much more applicable away from the wheel.
Opinions are opinions, facts are facts, this situation is the former.
Completely agreed about the steering wheel and getting rid of the stalks - makes absolutely no sense.
Imagine valet parking and trying to explain how to drive this car.
They are doing it because it's cheaper. Less moving parts and physical parts to make. Everything done in software.
@@PimpTwzt somethings shouldn't be done in software.
Won't need a valet when the car will be able to go park itself in the future :P
@@Heartsbane055 Agreed, because as much as I love modern tech, I also think somethings should be left alone with the old saying of if it ain't broke, don't try to change it/fix it.
Just slightly confused. Do you mean it's easy to explain how to drive it and valet parking or do you mean it's harder? Just don't completely understand and if you're agreeing with him or the decision Tesla made to add it.
I completely agree with you on the yolk. Very good video 👍.
Mrwhostheboss talked about you and mannnn, it's even better than I thought.
I never clicked so fast on mkbhd
Me neither 😅
ha
I never really cared.
@@sexyturnon cuz he's black?
1.99 sec fast.
MKBHD: “It’s fine” = “This really sucks!”
No
Yep. "It's fine" from reviewers is a nice way of saying, "I don't like this to be honest".
Great review and thanks for not repeating some of the obvious comments from all the myriads of reviewers - i think this is the reference plaid video - mahalo
good review! totally agree with the cons -- some traditional car's physical buttons or gear handle (knob) exists for reason . They allow driver to make fast, precise and instinctive reactions in vital situation based on the muscle memory, and drivers don't need to look down to the screen to play with it all the time , providing more attention to focus on the road rather than to find the certain touch screen menu. Maybe because Tesla is propagating the AP and driverless cars idea , it de-emphasis the drive's importance ? Just my own thought -- based on a driver's experience
You've pointed out a lot of flaws with that wheel.
Yeah, unfortunately the flaws exist.
It seems wheelie dangerous.
Dude. Tesla should just have a normal modular steering wheel.. and give you an option. Make extra $$$$
@@thisgustin 😆 thanks for the chuckle buddy
Now go back to your wife’s car after driving this for a week. Crunch city and doghouse time for you!
The thing about classic wheel with stalks is I can indicate, use the horn and wipers immediately regardless of the steering wheel position. Not being able to do any of these at an instant is alarming.
I’ve used a car horn maybe 2 times in the 16 years i’m on the road. Too much people think it’s a “wrong answer” button from a tv show or something. But i agree that that yoke is a mistake.
@@Engineer9736 "wrong answer" button 😂
exactly. imagine making a turn and you need to honk to alert someone. have fun finding that button
@@Engineer9736 if you live in a city that horn literally saves lives. Il feel so unsafe driving a car without a horn button I can instinctively press. Safety not for myself but for the millions of pedestrians.
@@TheVoltaire1 exactly! sometimes you *need* to honk at someone, it’s literally a safety feature. not being able to get to the horn instantly, without looking down, is a huge issue
I love the buttons on the wheel, took a few minutes to get used to but when I tested the Y with the traditional controls I preferred the wheel controls in the 3.
Great job explaining everything on this review. Thanks!!
Not everything should be touch screen, especially things that requires muscle memory instead of your eyes
Elon won't get it the car industry won't get it All are moving towards buttonless future :(
Seriously i like teslas and all but some buttons really wouldnt hurt
Voice control for everything man, it works like a charm. Never have to touch the screen while driving.
I just don't understand the logic of removing buttons in a situation where it's dangerous to move your eyes away from the road.
"oooooooh, it's so f u t u r y"
Great, I'll keep that in mind as my shins fly through my eye sockets.
@@lewiscopland4568 yh man like if it suddenly starts pouring down with rain i dont wanna do a long firm press, i wanna flick a switch. Sometimes i think the tesla engineers dont even drive cars 😂
I love that car overall, but they need to use more analog controls for things that are simply better being analog. For instance, the horn.
But how am I going to honk at my friends and the sound of farts come out of my Tesla?
and i wish the steering was a normal one
@@tony96907 You can order a normal one
The horn not being analog will someday allow AI to control it in Robotaxi mode, I believe.
@@r.perzylo you can have an analog horn. and still let the computer control it. when you lock your car the horn goes off. that is in like 99% of cars rn. that is not the reason
The steering yoke takes a little getting used to but it is fun. My complaint is the sliding shifter on the main screen, I would rather have the soft were option, to have a SIMPLE D and R touch button on the screen in the upper left location instead of sliding arrows or as an option. Marty Lanz
You've definitely given me something to think about. Maybe I missed it, but I thought the steering wheel was optional from the regular steering wheel. I'll have to reevaluate!
When MKBHD says something is bad, IT'S BAD.
Marry him now
@@levinovod what?
"Uninvented the wheel."
-James May
I see a man of culture
🔥🔥🔥🔥that storage space too
Totally agree regarding the yoke.
This reminds me of Fernando Alonso on Jolyon Palmer, "WHAT A YOKE!!"
KARMA!
same HAHAHA
Critical buttons like the blinkers shouldn‘t be able to activate when accidentally brushing over them while turning. How have they not figured this out in testing? Also the Yoke blocking part of the gear change, like just sit in the carduring testing and this should‘ve been obvious.
Yeah this proves that Tesla is still a small startup. They dont have enough QA and Testing. Its expensive and time consuming but it looks like tesla just cuts that part. Really dumb. Cars from other manufaturers may not seem that innovative. But thats because they actually dont do changes that proofed to be bad in their testing. Tesla is all about hype and nothing else…
They brought the "move fast and break stuff" method of rapid software development to fucking cars. It's stupid and dangerous. When you break things in a car, people die.
I had a chance to drive one yesterday. OMG !!!!!! Now I know what formula one cars must feels like. The acceleration is unbelievable!
Hey @mkbhd, would you take a yoke steering with buttons, but as a remedy to the forward/reverse issue, institute a jet pitch mechanism? Like maybe have a locking feature so it’s not accidentally triggered when you’re driving down the road, but after releasing it would allow you to push to go forward, or pull to reverse 🤔 I think that would be interesting