6 reasons why people still believe in Sungjae Joy bbyu? (in 2020)

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  • 게시일 2020. 08. 16.
  • 6 (Yook) reasons why. Please feel free to add more reasons. :)
    Disclaimer: For others, these may just be coincidences.
    But for bbyu fam, these are bbyutiful coincidences.
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  • @sonamelody9631
    @sonamelody9631 3 년 전 +1457

    I will add some more reasons which convinced me
    1. The way they glance each other whenever they are on the same event until now
    2. The way Sungjae reacts so awkwardly when Red velvet or their songs are mentioned
    3. They get teased a lot wherever they go even though the show ended half a decade ago
    4. BTOB hyungs and RV unnies teasing them whenever possible

    • @meloluvie738
      @meloluvie738  3 년 전 +53

      @sona melody
      , I was really waiting for these. We know there are more reasons. And Joy just uploaded ig posts with star and blue heart. my happy heart...

    • @hiHELLO-yx6jk
      @hiHELLO-yx6jk 3 년 전 +8

      krplus.net/bidio/nMNpgWOmn5GmiKg
      sung jae being jealous ^^

    • @jayzecruz5432
      @jayzecruz5432 3 년 전 +11

      Hey there fellow bbyu shipper haha. Its nice to see in every video of sungjae and joy.

    • @sonamelody9631
      @sonamelody9631 3 년 전 +4

      @@jayzecruz5432 you too haha 😆💙💚

    • @renaasrenah3062
      @renaasrenah3062 3 년 전

      Bajayo..

  • @jaymeered7063
    @jaymeered7063 3 년 전 +2194

    Sungjae is the only man I'd approve for Joy. Periodt.

  • @mashimellow8760
    @mashimellow8760 3 년 전 +921

    i love how we bbyu shippers are still alive and kicking lol

    • @buzikeci6046
      @buzikeci6046 3 년 전 +1

      Did they divorced?

    • @jolinal2186
      @jolinal2186 3 년 전 +6

      @@buzikeci6046 no they were on a show called “ we got married” I think and they were really cute!

    • @emimew
      @emimew 3 년 전 +7

      Don’t forget to mention the cruelty of the agency’s to make them sign a contract that forbids them to date each other. I think they even forbid them to see each other. The show is really messed up.

    • @ashley-rl4ii
      @ashley-rl4ii 3 년 전 +1

      LMFAO PERIODT

    • @meranaomathmadeeasy6203
      @meranaomathmadeeasy6203 3 년 전 +1

      NOT ONLY THAT BUT OR POPULATION IS GROWING AS TIME GOES BY hshshshs many people stumble upon random wgm videos and the next think they know they're marathoning the whole thing

  • @michellegepaya9092
    @michellegepaya9092 3 년 전 +1222

    I ain't lying when I said Sungjoy is the only couple who had a great and pure chemistry in a we got married...
    It was so sincere and I really cried a lot during their last concert..
    The way they hugged each other that time,it was so true...

    • @potato_chu1090
      @potato_chu1090 3 년 전 +24

      Yeah...i cried a lot too....until now can't move on...still hoping...

    • @Michael-ni9fs
      @Michael-ni9fs 3 년 전 +23

      Of course its true. Though some wgm couple gone scandal of being scripted. These sungjoy couple is 100% legit. To the point that until now we can still talk, remember and feel the pain of their goodbyes in the last episode. An hour ago i just watch the last episode again and damn it teared me up as always.

    • @trixiecura831
      @trixiecura831 3 년 전 +11

      Hey what about taemin and naeun in wgm they where so sweet to and I cried a lot on there last taping 😔😔

    • @trixiecura831
      @trixiecura831 3 년 전 +10

      Sungjae ❤️ Joy & Tae-min ❤️ Na-eun

    • @sonamelody9631
      @sonamelody9631 3 년 전 +11

      @@trixiecura831 yes I think they both are one of the very few couples who actually fell in love

  • @naur3420
    @naur3420 3 년 전 +649

    He's quick to deny dating rumors with other girls but never say a word when it comes to joy. 😂 Bbyuuu 💕

  • @_mushimushi_5504
    @_mushimushi_5504 3 년 전 +623

    Some of these were probably created by our delulu minds but I really agree with those "coincidences" that doesnt look like coincidence to me

  • @clarissalaguna2886
    @clarissalaguna2886 3 년 전 +572

    So true! Sungjae never denied dating rumor with Joy nor say they are just friends.

    • @biathris5625
      @biathris5625 3 년 전 +65

      I know right.. but imagine... the things uploaded referecing bbyu and taking into account that every minimal thing in kpop leads to a rumour, why joy and sungjae are not in single dating rumour? If you see CWTW comments, they are all about bbyu.. why doesn't soompi or mnet publish something speculating about bbyu?... i just hope they are happy together

    • @clarissalaguna2886
      @clarissalaguna2886 3 년 전 +62

      @@biathris5625 When asked about WGM in interviews, I noticed they don't dwell much on the topic. Even after WGM, they were being teased by their members until 2018, but I don"t see much of that in 2019 and 2020. Also, when BToB was a guest at Sugar Man 2 in 2018, I think they were both wearing the same rings. Sungjae mentioned in WGM that he doesn't like wearing rings.

    • @drrp.6107
      @drrp.6107 3 년 전 +75

      @@biathris5625 yeah good point. I think the media loves them too, they let bbyu couple loves each other in peace 😂😂😂.
      In my (delulu) opinion, if these two were a real couple, i think they will announce it after sungjae finishing his military service. 😎😎😎

    • @joeyannbatican3029
      @joeyannbatican3029 3 년 전 +15

      @@drrp.6107 i am really hoping and patiently waiting for them💚💙

    • @kbiun9932
      @kbiun9932 3 년 전 +20

      Right. and he immediately denied that he was dating another woman

  • @alicekamisama8797
    @alicekamisama8797 3 년 전 +496

    The girl beside him is melody?
    Sungjae-ah, we melody never left you.
    The lyrics says “it’s you, a gift who came back to me! “
    Try harder! Hahahaha
    I still love you 💙💚

  • @erose420
    @erose420 3 년 전 +244

    Among all ships in Kpop they are the most obvious

  • @skwkgwf2663
    @skwkgwf2663 3 년 전 +145

    Attendance!! Everyone?
    Y'all still there? Its Already December lol we cant move on❤💅🏻
    EDIT: JAN 22, 2021 , still Sungjoy💕

    • @shizosh7312
      @shizosh7312 3 년 전 +4

      I really can't move on 😂💔

    • @skwkgwf2663
      @skwkgwf2663 3 년 전 +5

      @@shizosh7312 i just finished watching it today(my second time) but that two dork never failed to make me cry..😭

    • @shizosh7312
      @shizosh7312 3 년 전 +2

      That's the truth 😭💔

    • @vescocshii6279
      @vescocshii6279 3 년 전 +1

      Jan 26 still cant move on😂💕

    • @girlustinky9470
      @girlustinky9470 3 년 전 +1

      i’m always here bbyu✋😤

  • @ariadc9172
    @ariadc9172 3 년 전 +104

    I pray that all of btob members and rv members will always be healthy. And if joy and sungjae is really mean to be for each other, i hope they will be happy together without any problems, hates, and difficulties. If not, please make them happy with their own partner.

  • @btobmelody2156
    @btobmelody2156 3 년 전 +16

    00:24 this moment still amazes me. They were ending the hadabang and Ilhoon congratulated Sungjae for his wedding which was completely off topic. And the way Peniel and Hyunsik laughed , Sungjae blushing and getting shy and Ilhoon's smirk on his face is really something else. And RV released the bride concept a day after this too. The fact that BTOB and Sungjae knew about the concept before it's release is also amazing haha. Bbyu couple all the way 😍💙

    • @meloluvie738
      @meloluvie738  3 년 전 +1

      thank you for pointing this out! yey!!!! Bbyu couple all the way!

  • @purvakulkarni5466
    @purvakulkarni5466 3 년 전 +86

    I totally believe they're dating but recently! "A gift that came back to me", it's like after WGM she came back to him recently! Awww I'm so glad and so happy for them! Hwaitingggg! Sungjae-ya come back fast and announce this real fast! Sooyoung is waiting!

  • @maullyaamanojh4898
    @maullyaamanojh4898 3 년 전 +40

    How many still ship bbyu couple ❤️in 2021?😘

  • @alydelarosa128
    @alydelarosa128 3 년 전 +119

    I don't mind being called a "Delulu" fan as long as there's no confirmation about either of them dating anyone else, I'll believe in this kind of shts 💙

  • @uppersoul5138
    @uppersoul5138 3 년 전 +156

    Mannnnn, when the question to choose between her co-stars,joy is so savage,like she can say i love both or anything with similar feeling.when she state so firmly like "we doesnt have the same humour" Seems to me she's really in relationship and her bf is really jelous..just my delulu mind 😏

  • @leena-mk4ou
    @leena-mk4ou 3 년 전 +199

    Actually even if they were really dating, if this couple was true, i wish they not get caught by any paparazi such as dispatch or any knetz.. cause im hoping someday they will get any project together again, perhaps becoming male lead and female lead in korean drama just like song jaerim and kim so eun in the past. If they get caught, we will lose all their content just like momo and heechul :( but still wish the best happiness for both of them

    • @daphnedaphn3
      @daphnedaphn3 3 년 전 +48

      I want them to keep their relationship a secret for a long time until they announce their marriage. Then everyone will just be surprised lmao

    • @clareadonay6075
      @clareadonay6075 3 년 전 +14

      they were probably got caught a long time ago, i think it's just the agency already already paid dispatch to shut up

    • @jessacater6421
      @jessacater6421 3 년 전 +3

      I think Dispatch knew them as a couple already. I've seen many shows of either Joy or Sungjae, most of their co-workers are lowkey teasing them .. so I doubt Dispatch didnt know about them, if and only if, he(sungjae) paid them so that any news related to them would not leak. Knowing Sungjae is a son of one of the most wealthiest person in Korea .. money can buy anything . Thanks if you agreed to my opinion . Its just my opinion anyway . 💙💚

  • @sungjaeseji777
    @sungjaeseji777 3 년 전 +56

    Joy's posts and these 'coincidences' kept me from moving on. 💙💚

  • @MS-nn7hx
    @MS-nn7hx 3 년 전 +266

    So?? Secretly dating all this time with the whole industry protecting them (teasing as well)
    Then now both sides are more vocal in giving hints about their connection to one another since 2019.
    Sungjae sudden enlistment to military would point to maybe something major announcement after being discharged.
    The try like 3 and 2 so much it wouldn’t surprise me if a wedding date like 23/06/23 would be in order. Definitely marrying before 30 wish for both......don’t mind me though definitely delulu thinking ⭐️🌝

    • @nandosoo
      @nandosoo 3 년 전 +11

      I like the date so muchh

    • @baronlovesbtob1120
      @baronlovesbtob1120 3 년 전 +9

      3/26/23 is also good. If reversed its still the same.😇

    • @MS-nn7hx
      @MS-nn7hx 3 년 전 +24

      Baron loves BTOB
      Ok how about this after Joy’s song of “I love you 3000” I believe this is Joy saying she is ready to make thing more public.
      BtoB 10th Anniversary is in March 2022. I’m sure there will be a celebration concert 26th is a Saturday so it could be locked in for that date. I’m sure all famous Kpop groups would be invited to the 10th anniversary including RV
      Here is the “mind blown” part. What if the Sungjae plans to fulfil the “I Love you 3000” wish by recreating the ending of “Come with the Wind” MV where a special “Melody” is asked to come to the stage face to face with him as he sings this CWTW song live and “gets down on one knee” at the end as per I love you 3000. Wouldn’t that be so “Hollywood like” :) then Live broadcast of wedding as per Master in the House the next year in 2023 shhhh!! no spoilers right just crazy thinking #sungjae #joy #bbyu

    • @nandosoo
      @nandosoo 3 년 전 +2

      @@MS-nn7hx Wauu I like your mind! Wowersss

    • @mintaexx2990
      @mintaexx2990 3 년 전 +11

      i cracked up at the wedding date hahaa. and I also feel like the military enlistement was very sudden, maybe sth major would happen after he discharges.

  • @Dada-pi6mc
    @Dada-pi6mc 3 년 전 +41

    this is the only couple that I'm really excited to hear about dating rumors. not a single fan would disagree. ❤️

  • @mynnadef8917
    @mynnadef8917 3 년 전 +55

    Until and unless one of them confirm their marriage with others, this ship must keep sailing. (~ ̄³ ̄)~

  • @stephanieirissapno9746

    i just love them together i cant even bear to watch joy being shipped with other men 😭 and these videos just keeping my heart alive

  • @regitawowor4194
    @regitawowor4194 3 년 전 +21

    the humor code in that radio interview is a big giveaway IMO, she likes her funny dorky humor with SJ LMAO

  • @missspazzer8103
    @missspazzer8103 2 년 전 +4

    It’s the reeling for me 😭😭😭 his a man who kept his promises 💚💙💚💙💚

  • @missingsungjoybbyu9883

    For me, 5 or less are considered coincidences but for Bbyu's I lost count, really. From what I observed Sungjae showed us a lot of hints since right after their wgm ended, I first thought it was one sided love but earlier this year Joy threw a lot of hints too that gave us a lot of hopes, and I believe this time they are really dating. I will patiently wait until they announce their relationship, hoping it will be next year after SJ's military service.

  • @mianarachellel.9277
    @mianarachellel.9277 3 년 전 +331

    WALANG MAGMU MOVE ON! SUNGJOY LANG MALAKAS! KAHIT SINONG I-PARTNER NYO KAY JOY, SI SUNGJAE LANG AY MAY KAKAYAHANG SINGAHAN SIYA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • @keyboardbunny
    @keyboardbunny 2 년 전 +4

    I think they're still very much in touch. Joy posted on insta 11May 1 year anniversary of Sungjae military enlistment with a photo including #6.

  • @keeem-rf3tc
    @keeem-rf3tc 3 년 전 +24

    I've never been a shipper. Not a drama/love stories fan either. But this couple is an exemption. Geez! They made me feel like I don't need a boyfriend because their interactions are already enough to make me smile. :>

  • @_aryzanne
    @_aryzanne 3 년 전 +25

    Let's wait until 2022, Bbyu fighting~😌💚💙

    • @jayzecruz5432
      @jayzecruz5432 3 년 전 +3

      Yes! I hope sungjae reveals it after his enlistment and make a drama with joy!!!!

  • @gyuhansol5922
    @gyuhansol5922 3 년 전 +10

    Years later, sungjoy is is still real. I wouldnt be surprised if they end up together... Maybe not now but if time permits. As long as these hints are going strong, i would still believe it HAHAHAHAH u cant deny chemistry when u see one

  • @yuh2816
    @yuh2816 3 년 전 +26

    SUNGJAE IS THE ONLY MAN I WANT FOR JOY AND THATS ON PERIODT.

  • @tasya1955
    @tasya1955 3 년 전 +4

    i mean if i them i just can't forget each other like really! cause everywhere they go they already tried it together before

  • @mellowesss7319
    @mellowesss7319 3 년 전 +51

    I am Melody but I don't care if they really dating each others sincd they could be a best couple ever 🙈

  • @lucaszoliansanga829
    @lucaszoliansanga829 3 년 전 +61

    Hope they will announce after Sungjae discharge,predictions are saying DP to announce 2couple this year 🙏

    • @adamreid966
      @adamreid966 3 년 전

      When he's discharge?

    • @bibiluvs2885
      @bibiluvs2885 3 년 전

      syaxx art I heard from the other comments saying on nov 11 2020 I think

    • @adamreid966
      @adamreid966 3 년 전

      @@bibiluvs2885 thank you 🙂

    • @junemherpolesticoburnea1693
      @junemherpolesticoburnea1693 3 년 전

      @@adamreid966 his discharge is November 2021

    • @adamreid966
      @adamreid966 3 년 전 +2

      @@junemherpolesticoburnea1693 oh, thank you sm. I can't wait what happen after he discharge.😁😁

  • @aafiyahm
    @aafiyahm 2 년 전 +6

    You guys should see the hints joy gave from her solo debut stuff

  • @_https.rarerir0ru
    @_https.rarerir0ru 3 년 전 +4

    also, that "Jeju 💚💙" caption of Joy lol memory unlocked

  • @nandosoo
    @nandosoo 3 년 전 +8

    KRplus recomendations like this make my bbyu hearts alive

  • @alicepanganiban4060
    @alicepanganiban4060 3 년 전 +43

    Argggh there's sooo much hints for this two! Let's already claimed it. They're dating! ❤️

  • @shakirahreincastle4303

    Wow... Really worth it to watched!! Thank you so much for your hard work!! Let's all pray together !! Hope we will got happy news in the future about them.... Don't forget to support them individually activity!! Nice hard work!!

  • @nisrinanajlahuwaida3178

    I think many Reveluv are a bit strict about whom the members would date, because we want to make sure that they are finding the best man. And as a Reveluv i approve Sungjae for Joy 💚💙. But even if this was just our delulu mind, and they don't belong each other, that's fine.

  • @lovelyerizen8130
    @lovelyerizen8130 3 년 전 +3

    SUNGJOY LANG TALAGA MALALAS!!! The chemistry will never fade 💙💚

  • @hannajmendoza8080
    @hannajmendoza8080 3 년 전 +9

    At the end of the day, I will still support and love bbyu, dating or not 💕

  • @melantakwarrior8423
    @melantakwarrior8423 3 년 전 +14

    im a BByu Shipper since 2015 and still believe in them!!

  • @padmajanair2924
    @padmajanair2924 3 년 전 +8

    I really have hope in them. At first I thought all of the hints might be just because of our delusional minds. But the hints are just too much to be considered as coincidences. I believe in them so much

  • @JosiahPro
    @JosiahPro 3 년 전 +45

    Thank you for this... Yah, we're really convinced that #SungJoy is real. Also, in his explanation for CWTW, he said that, "The girl that keeps changing her hairstyle, is Melody". There! he said that himself. As we all know, it is Joy who keeps on changing her hairstyle.. Let keep our hopes up and wait for the perfect timing. Happy Bbyuing everyone... Oh I love this family. We keep on supporting each other. Thank you #ReVeluvs and #Melodies. :)

  • @jamellamaynortez3799
    @jamellamaynortez3799 3 년 전 +14

    Feed me more bout bbyu analysis please. 😭😭 miss them so much after so many years

  • @ninjalina3
    @ninjalina3 3 년 전 +11

    also!!! the ferris wheel car they sat in was car #6!!!

  • @kenn_3348
    @kenn_3348 3 년 전 +3

    Hanggat walang nakakasal sa kanilang dalawa, Sungjoy parin. Sungjoy lang sakalam!

  • @Jin-li6re
    @Jin-li6re 3 년 전 +67

    After CWTW was released by Joy's husband and the I love you ig post of Sungjae's wife in May 2. I am 100% sure they are already DATING FOR REAL!

    • @ganchooktin5808
      @ganchooktin5808 3 년 전 +5

      Agree 100%

    • @edithl8625
      @edithl8625 3 년 전 +2

      Jin, Can you explain what CWTW is? Sorry, I have no idea and everybody keeps writing this word. OH, would that be Come With The Wind?

    • @Jin-li6re
      @Jin-li6re 3 년 전

      @Edith L yah its Come With The Wind

  • @khayerondon1528
    @khayerondon1528 3 년 전 +24

    i have a feeling that they are secretly dating.

  • @Luunas
    @Luunas 3 년 전 +10

    Wow didn’t expect someone to make a video about them in 2020 😂😂😂💗💗💗

  • @lingvux
    @lingvux 3 년 전 +12

    I believe there is love between them
    They like to use "metaphor" so much

  • @MS-nn7hx
    @MS-nn7hx 3 년 전 +40

    I'm Sorry if this sounds a bit out there but after the recent songs that Joy has been singing in her Live and song choices/lyric choices on shows and Sungjae's Latest Songs, I believe they communicate through the lyrics of these songs of how they feel. I'll just list out just from mid 2019 but if you take into account BTOB I'l Be your Man, Missing you , Only One for Me, I believe that they have been going strong all these years.
    They are singers and lyrics to them hold alot of meaning and they express their feeling through the lyrics of songs. This is even true from WGM days.
    BBYU LOVE STORY THROUGH SONGS
    Song covers and lyrics sang by both Joy and Sungjae
    Joy - June-2019 "Saving all my love for you"
    Joy - August 2019 " Don't Leave me Alone" - Sang at Heeyeol's Sketchbook
    SJ - December 2019 - Yook and From Winter - Waves, and Winter - Being Sad/Crying - Being Alone/Lost Moment - Still in Love but can’t Hold his Lover
    Joy - January 2020 - Crush "Alone" - Sang about the Waves and Winter - Being with a Loved one when they feel alone. Crying with the loved one so they won't feel alone. "I will be with you"
    SJ- March 2020 " Come with the Wind " Singing to a Special Melody that Came back to Him =)
    Joy- March 2020 " Introduce Me to a Good Person " - Sungjae wants to be known as a "Good Person" in an Interview ( Same with Joy )
    May 2020 - Sungjae Enlist to Army
    SJ - June 2020 "Love Resembles Memories" OST - Lyrics "Actually, I’m in love with you, I always want to be with you as your man That’s who I’ll try to be"
    As the man who will love you”
    Joy -June 2020 "Restless" by Bibi - Restless, Restless, I want to be with you
    RV Joy - August 2020 "Milky Way" - Joy's Lyrics "Even if we cannot spend the time that has already passed together, now I have so many days I can give you"
    Joy - September 2020 "I Love you 3000" - hint hint?
    Joy - September 2020 "Lonely Night" -
    Just with the recent iLive videos from Joy and her signing her signature with a 6 on the Sketchbook Live, almost showing that 6 is part of her name. (Surname?) BTOB even mentioned on their interview that all things 6 are connected to Sungjae. There are way too many references to link these two people together its beyond coincedences. Plus Joy has been wearing a ring on her ring finger very often in photo shoots and shows recently which shows there is something going on.
    Also just though about this
    Sami - Sam and Yi 3 and 2
    Sungjae - Star
    Joy - Moon
    Haetnim - Sun (BTW Haetnim was adopted or born in Mid 2018 perhaps marking an important time in their Journey/Family.) Alot of hints became more obvious and more links between them from Mid 2018 onwards.
    we will see... just observations....just that it's becoming more and more obvious and I would like to support them which ever way that make them happy...but their interactions and story also make a whole lot of people happy as well....Quote from Yook Sungjae "Joy, Please don't get too frustrated. Bbyu couple will last for long time.......Bbyu Fighting"

    • @sonamelody9631
      @sonamelody9631 3 년 전

      Your comment made me so freaking happy!!!! Thank you 🤩

    • @meloluvie738
      @meloluvie738  3 년 전 +2

      omg, thank you for sharing these!!!! many people are looking for a song timeline for bbyu. we know you don't just sing a song because you feel like singing it. You don't sing "Saving all my love for you" when you have no one to dedicate or sing that song in mind. You don't sing Alone, Lonely Night, and Restless if you are together with the person you are in a relationship with. And Sungjae, his song lyrics are all a giveaway. He is afraid to be erased or become JUST A MEMORY for someone.

    • @Michael-ni9fs
      @Michael-ni9fs 3 년 전

      Good observation. I dont like cheesy things nor be fan of love team even in my country. But for this two perfect match and beautiful couple. I cant help but smile whenever i see post for them. Bbyu sungjoy shippers ok count me in. 😊

    • @janensantayo999
      @janensantayo999 3 년 전 +1

      Omoooooooooo you made me cry. I miss them and I will wait for them to announce or real in the future. Bbyu fighting 💙 💚

  • @ayawkoseo
    @ayawkoseo 3 년 전 +26

    Lol I could even believe that they weren't together after wgm. They tried avoiding each other coz fans and too young. But then they worked together again in some shows and then the CF. And that was after she did her two dramas and she worked with other guys and realized no one comes close to matching her personality and humor like Sungjae did. So they get together in 2018 😆. Ok i'm going with this. This is the story i'm gonna keep telling myself 🤣. I'm going sailing with this ship up until the point they sink it or put a ring on it 😂.
    But I love that clip in the radio show tho. You can believe she was honest and doesn't care about lip service. She could've said she liked them both but she was firm in saying that they were nice but they don't match. She knows what she likes for a partner.

    • @me_chan3060
      @me_chan3060 3 년 전

      This is also what I think, they date 2018 😂

  • @131ily6
    @131ily6 2 년 전 +7

    Not now but hoping someday they will be a real couple.

  • @janensantayo999
    @janensantayo999 3 년 전 +5

    Still hoping until sungjae finish his military service 💙💚 bbyu fighting

  • @yurligowasa1162
    @yurligowasa1162 2 년 전 +3

    2021 how??
    IM still believe

  • @frecklesandwine
    @frecklesandwine 3 년 전 +41

    So since people are tossing their theories out there, I figured I would add mine. FYI I’ve left this comment on different videos before, but a lot of people seem to agree that it’s the most realistic hypothesis so thought I would share here to see the reaction! Second FYI, this comment is super long so buckle up... Lol. Here it is:
    So, as much as I wish it wasn’t true, I don’t think they are together or ever have been. Bc I think if that were the case, Dispatch def would’ve come out with it by now. I think the reality is they both did catch feelings and coincidentally RV got huge after the show (Joy in particular) so she had no time for dating, so Sungjae was kinda left on sidelines with no opportunities to really ask her out.
    Not to mention given RV’s busy schedule & SM’s reputation I’m sure the company wouldn’t really allow it or at least didn’t encourage it. They knew Joy’s their money ticket and that with upcoming film gigs and increasing CFs dating anyone - especially another singer from a show she was on - would jeopardize her position. Bc if they did date, then when people watch her acting on other dramas or doing press interviews with her costars they will say “Oh well you can tell she’s dating Sungjae bc these two have no chemistry” or “No wonder she’s dating Sungjae. There’s nothing between these two here.”
    So having her single and without scandal is important for her brand and image as a famous singer and an actress. It’s also important from another business standpoint: scheduling. The less time she has to date or see a bf, the more time she has to focus on work and land gigs. And “stay focused” as the asshole CEOs would say - esp SM.
    Lastly, I’m not sure that when she was on WGM she was even contractually allowed to date at all? I know their dating ban is over now but idk about back then... So that might’ve been another reason things never panned out. Because by the time the ban was over too much space had passed between them so dating wouldn’t be possible anymore.
    But honestly I still think the real reason is not a dating ban. I think it’s bc of Joy & RV’s increasingly busy schedule after the show. I mean its no doubt that their group became more famous after 2015/16 and that Joy’s fandom grew exponentially as she turned more and more into a mature woman & talented actress. Meanwhile although BTOB is successful and Sungjae is an amazing actor/singer it’s not even comparable. (I mean I think he & the group are WIDELY underrated so don’t get me wrong - I think it’s really unfair/sad.) So it’s no surprise to me that while Sungjae has been rumored to have dated & had gfs since then, Joy hasn’t. It’s bc he’s had time to and his company has been more lax since there’s less eyes on him, while Joy barely has time to breathe with a packed schedule and SM’s notoriously strict eyes watching and monitoring her.
    Point is, that’s why I think Sungjae wasn’t lying on that variety show when he says he hasn’t met with her since WGM bc she’s been so busy (he said they’ve both been busy but the implication was clear after she laughed and said “No, no, it’s not like that.. I’ve just been too busy” You can see she felt bad and that he wasn’t wrong.) But I don’t think this is for a lack of feeling: I think it’s very obvious on the show that she started to have real feelings for him. I think his feelings were slower to develop (much more like “Lets have fun, it’s a show!” & “Oh this girl is different/strange haha but maybe we can be friends”) but at the end he thought he would miss her as a little sister since they truly got close but then looking back he realizes he truly had feelings beyond that for her. With dudes sometimes it takes a sec, and Sungjae is def the funny immature playful type so I’m sure it didn’t really hit him till after, that maybe he liked her as more than just a close “noona.”
    I think as he started dating other idols he realized even more how special and unique their time & connection was. He started missing her and regretting his actions even more as years went by, but worried it was too late now and too far gone. That’s why I do believe the song “Come With the Wind” is about Joy. A part of me does believe it might be delulu & far fetched, but another part really does see all the hints and similarities people have picked up on. Still, I’m not denying that it could be a coincidence and fans have gone nuts from lack of content haha.
    But I dunno, I really do think that unfortunately they never dated or Dispatch wouldve come out w it at this point. I know some people think it was kept a secret from fan backlash but that’s not true bc at this point the Bbyu fandom is larger than any antis. It’s way past that now. So that’s def not the reason at all. And I don’t think the reason is that they were good at hiding it/dating in secret either, bc I really don’t think Joy had any time to date at all between her schedule as RV member and recurring actress. That’s an overwhelming schedule, so I think that’s the truth no one wants to admit.
    But I do think Sungjae’s heart is still with her but he feels it’s too late now and that she’s too popular for him/he missed his chance. As for Joy idk. On the show it was easy to read her feelings but it’s been more difficult since then bc she has so little freedom and is not allowed to freely express herself in song or on social media. So it’s tough to know how she feels. I think she did truly like him on the show towards the end but didn’t think it was reciprocated. I think she was insecure and in her heart felt he didn’t see her in a romantic way but as a protective older brother. (And I think he was giving her those signs bc that is how he thinks he felt at the time.) And now I just think she’s too busy so it’s not on her mind as much. I think she’s “moved on” but still holds a soft spot for him in her heart. Like a fond memory of her innocence and when she was less busy and could be more herself. She just thinks he never reciprocated her feelings and since he never REALLY reached out in a romantic way after the show she thought they are just friends. And then as years went by, that fizzled too. (on her end.)
    But I do think she wants a love life and I do wish that for her bc I just want to see her happy. I think being successful can only bring you so much joy as an idol, you know? I think time to have a partner and feel normal is just as important. But personal time is a luxury not many idols are afforded, sadly...
    Now, I do wish they could come together at some point in future and give each other a chance, bc I think they are so well suited and had something special. And it’s a shame not to give smth you want a shot just bc you didn’t have time before. Truth is Sungjae, it may feel awkward, but it’s never too late! And sometimes its worth at least taking the shot. But if they don’t end up dating someday, then I just hope they’re happy w whoever they choose and that they find someone great! Bc they both deserve it.
    #EndofEssay

    • @ellebarbs9474
      @ellebarbs9474 3 년 전 +1

      Agree with this. Saw it at that first tv appearance. Them talking about not being able to see each other looked so genuine.

    • @mielancholy3
      @mielancholy3 3 년 전 +1

      This is a wonderful insight/perspective 👏 This is much close to reality and considering their zodiac readings also describes some aspects/part of their lives. Undeniably agree. On point🍻

    • @frecklesandwine
      @frecklesandwine 3 년 전 +7

      @@ellebarbs9474 Same! That was a huge tipoff for me. Many people interpreted it differently - by saying it was obvious they were lying - but I think their body language was a pretty obvious tell of honesty. Seemed like an instant "guilt" reaction from Joy for being too busy. (But maybe not- just my opinion, of course!)
      And then when she had a guest appearance with a letter to him in her red hair (different show and think it was before the appearance we're talking about) her way of talking was much more like to an older brother/teasing/sweet, whereas his sheepish reaction seemed more like he was trying to curb his emotions and his shock at seeing her? I remember in that moment thinking, "Oh, wow, how the tables have turned... Now she's the one who seems more casual/friendly, and he's the one who seems to have a big crush."
      From that moment on, I noticed that he always seemed to be hiding his feelings for her during public appearances, like hyper aware of himself whenever her name was brought up, whereas she seemed a bit more blasé about it all. But this is all just speculation! Who knows. Maybe they did date! Or maybe nothing ever happened. Who's to say! Those are just my thoughts, anyway.

    • @frecklesandwine
      @frecklesandwine 3 년 전

      @@mielancholy3 Oh, thank you ☺️ Glad you agree! Not really into zodiac signs but happy to hear there's some crossover :)

    • @Sibel-vq6np
      @Sibel-vq6np 3 년 전

      💔

  • @orangeoutoftheblue
    @orangeoutoftheblue 3 년 전 +4

    we need sungjoy in a movie or kdrama series. periodt!

  • @khyladelarosa
    @khyladelarosa 3 년 전 +4

    Please bring back SungJoy WGM cause we madly missed them 🙁💕

  • @ahoneysa3146
    @ahoneysa3146 3 년 전 +3

    imagine bbyu couple watching this😂❤️

  • @globalcelebrityetctv2149

    Joy is a melody ...Sungjae and Joy happiest moment is when they are together you can see in all videos together the genuine happiness in their eyes only for them. Now Joy is a lady and Sungjae is man enough , we hope they can express their feelings towards each other.

  • @zahrahapsanti7845
    @zahrahapsanti7845 3 년 전 +6

    Dear God, if they are really together please let them be. I wish they are happy. If they were meant to be together I will be one of the happpiest people and wishing them lots of love for the rest of their live 😭❤️💙💚
    To the ones who don't like them being together, it's ok. It's up to you since it's your heart. But don't harass one of them or even both of them just because of your jealousy. I'm wishing you a true happiness of yours and I'm sure you'll find one someday.
    ❤️💙💚❤️💙💚❤️💙💚

  • @itsjihah8794
    @itsjihah8794 3 년 전 +6

    I'm really hope that they will be married in the future💙💚

  • @dreambeauty5793
    @dreambeauty5793 3 년 전 +4

    Just date already we are here to cheer for u guys I love them both so much 💗

  • @daaniaamelia3048
    @daaniaamelia3048 3 년 전 +6

    I wonder if sungjae watched tempted...I wonder how he'll feel...but I still love sungjae×joy

  • @rizwana9151
    @rizwana9151 3 년 전 +11

    I LOVE THAT YOU ADD DATES TO THE EVENTS:)

    • @meloluvie738
      @meloluvie738  3 년 전 +2

      @Rizwana
      yes it's important, especially for Joy :)

  • @jayzecruz5432
    @jayzecruz5432 3 년 전 +9

    2020?
    Sungjae's new song "Come with the wind" is for joy! Check it out.
    It's been 4 years since WGM but sungjae still loves Joy. Don't lose hope bbyu shippers! Every year there's something going on between them like sungjae's hidden symbols in his albums and their IG's. Fighting bbyu!
    #Bbyu Fighting

  • @nadiaelsa3850
    @nadiaelsa3850 3 년 전 +12

    8:51 i just saw it today... yeah the only one who have the same humor code as my joy is only sungjae ya of course~ she can be herself when she is with sungjae ❤️❤️❤️

  • @kazehaya-kun
    @kazehaya-kun 2 년 전 +1

    Even the universe is rooting for them they better end up together sooner or later😿✋

  • @rovilpetran7615
    @rovilpetran7615 3 년 전 +4

    Why am I still hopeful for these two?🙁😍

  • @sharifahathira450
    @sharifahathira450 3 년 전 +9

    actually this is not why i stil believe in bbyu...its bcoz when i saw them together on we get married i just feel that they really fall for each other...and its the hardness of the fall is enough to make it to this year...

  • @jjtassnym4105
    @jjtassnym4105 2 년 전 +2

    Broooo i still believe in them 🥺🥺🥺🥺🦋

  • @telithalokkejak375
    @telithalokkejak375 3 년 전 +4

    Ughh this bond is soo stonggg 😭 i love itt

  • @celia4890
    @celia4890 3 년 전 +6

    Be together and I'll be happy for years!!!

  • @slumptydumpty3058
    @slumptydumpty3058 3 년 전 +5

    Still waiting for him to return from the military and for them to just start their relationship 😭😭😭

  • @sleepyhead8507
    @sleepyhead8507 3 년 전 +5

    This is the second low key couple i would approve of, if they're dating. Well, Daragon first. Been waiting for them, i dont mind waiting for this couple too.

  • @nadiramhs
    @nadiramhs 3 년 전 +7

    I was about to move on thinking that they had moved on too.. but damnn the music video was just wayy too obvious of a hint for us to ignore 😂

  • @marklawrencepusana1240

    Keep up the good work, making me really support them really hard 💙💚🦋

  • @vnn_00
    @vnn_00 3 년 전 +4

    _imyour_joy
    yook_can_do_it
    there underscore sungjae has 3
    And joy has 2 underscore on her user name
    3 means joy is birthday
    2 is sungjaes birthday so
    3x2= 6 sungjaes fav number also his title track for his solo

  • @kiraneko9213
    @kiraneko9213 2 년 전 +3

    Just get married already.. 😭😭😭 im sorry guys..

  • @padmajanair2924
    @padmajanair2924 3 년 전 +3

    For me some of the reasons seems like a stretch but damn that 326 theory looks so convincing that's it can't be a coincidence. Also CWTW MV

  • @alicekamisama8797
    @alicekamisama8797 3 년 전 +15

    I think nabi/butterfly is Sungjae since he portrayed as Nabi Deity/God in Goblin 💙

    • @meloluvie738
      @meloluvie738  3 년 전 +1

      @Alice Kamisama
      i'm gonna admit this was really a coincidence. I happen to notice while making the video. of course the butterfly refers to Yoo Deok-hwa in Goblin, Sungjae's best role - in my opinion.

  • @clarissalaguna2886
    @clarissalaguna2886 3 년 전 +16

    Thank you for this video. It will keep my bbyu spirit alive. Haha

  • @asfartasnim7030
    @asfartasnim7030 3 년 전 +8

    Yall know its no coincidence. And I encourage u to expect some news by 2023! 2×3 = 6 you know 😀

  • @elzadjima5800
    @elzadjima5800 3 년 전 +2

    I'm with you!! It's been 5 years but i still can't get over that couple >< they're just too good to be true

  • @dyeeel6251
    @dyeeel6251 3 년 전 +4

    D green leaf dat sungjae put in their wgm bedroom and the leaf in the CWTW mv 💙💚

  • @ParakeetWorld
    @ParakeetWorld 3 년 전 +23

    3x2=6
    Joy times joy equals yook xD

  • @VTAEMINTEA
    @VTAEMINTEA 3 년 전 +3

    Let's reunite❤️ miss you sungjoy..

  • @acciosharpie4441
    @acciosharpie4441 3 년 전 +2

    ok bless sungjae looks so good in green
    i would say joy looks good in blue but she would look hella good too in green so
    ok so this is basically just me randomly complimenting how green outfits can make someone look so fresh but yeah BLESS

  • @jayzecruz5432
    @jayzecruz5432 3 년 전 +1

    2021?
    It's been a year since the release of Sungjae's song "Come with the wind" which is for joy. Sungjae's song is for joy he can't straight up tell it to everyone because their careers depends on it sungjae is not dumb. He only use symbols which joy and bbyu shippers can understand. It is for btob fans too but the main purpose of the song is their memories and how he still loves joy.
    It's been 5 years since WGM but but guys! Sungjae and joy still loves each other. Don't lose hope bbyu shippers remember every year there is something going on between them like the symbols in their IG's and joy emoji's, caption and many more! Like joy's picking a sentence in a variety show recently she pick "you can do it" which is sungjae's name in IG and twitter. Only a true bbyu shipper will know their hearts and true actions.
    Currently sungjae is in the military but i believe after that everything will change and we bbyu are waiting for it!
    Don't lose hope everyone keep fighting and I 100 percent believe that they are real! 💖
    #Bbyu fighting
    #2021 still going strong with bbyu

  • @aliahtanya759
    @aliahtanya759 3 년 전 +2

    i still believed until now that they are together, though i don't want them to come in public since we know how OTHER fans are not good at handling the relationships of the idols. i just hope that they are still together in private because what they had in front of the camera was so real. The last concert shows a lot. they are both sad that it's the end for them.

  • @jenongliandra
    @jenongliandra 2 년 전 +6

    Normalize idols dating!!

  • @jadem2277
    @jadem2277 3 년 전 +7

    I respect if people ship bbyu couple I like them together too but please respect both of them
    if they are not a couple they cannot be friends because people will talk about them, it's sad.
    I saw some people who really like I think got delulu that chat Sungjae personally asking about their relationship. Anyways it got too long but please respect both of their privacy keep to ourselves our fantasies they have their lives too guys

  • @jay2654
    @jay2654 3 년 전 +7

    I was watching the 10 minutes Peniel Rap part in "Movie" and saw sungjoy! Fighting!

    • @meloluvie738
      @meloluvie738  3 년 전

      @Jason Orfela
      , thank you Peniel Rap part in Movie for leading you here. fighting!

  • @amani4025
    @amani4025 3 년 전 +8

    8:29 for everyone shipping her with others 😏

    • @meloluvie738
      @meloluvie738  3 년 전 +2

      if only I can give you 1000 likes.

    • @amani4025
      @amani4025 3 년 전

      @@meloluvie738 I'll pretend that you did, thank u 😭💙💚

  • @kiyobae8612
    @kiyobae8612 3 년 전 +3

    LETSGO!!! BBYU FIGHTING!!! 😇💞💪

  • @jeoncooky8927
    @jeoncooky8927 3 년 전 +4

    Sungjoy ship is so strong 🥺💗

  • @btobsslowblueocean3121

    With bbyu coincidences look a lot like fate...
    Thank you for a well researched video. 👍😘

    • @meloluvie738
      @meloluvie738  3 년 전 +1

      @BTOB’s Slow Blue Ocean thanks a lot for your nice comment. we must be well informed and research things well. it's part of being responsible for all our actions.

  • @k1mismybaeis606
    @k1mismybaeis606 3 년 전 +2

    I’m still rooting for these two!