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Problematic already 😭

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bro yes im so tired of this industry literally debuting 14 yr olds like thats too young :( i prefer ages thats over 18

@@alyahanifa2770 let ones finish school first.

@@lba3521 yesss let them graduate first 😞

There's Mamamoo (Solar and Moonbyul) and Refund Sisters

@@multi68 they said more for a reason. In other words, they want more groups like these

So true

ikr

@@multi68 Refund sisters is probably a one off thing.

well said! x)

What do u mean by child labor? I’m confused

@@itsmethatqueen4188 child labour as in debuting idola who are below 18, had to do sensual choreography, sexualised by some male fans and the list goes on.

YEEEESSSSSS

Mamas calientes XDD

i think on most company there's no age limit(esp SM, they never disband). its just that younger one debut and are more popular (due to 'gen' on kpop) and they just sell more ig. so company just focus more on new one.
idols don't get that much sallary esp if they're not that big. since they are less famous(which mean less salary), ig some quit cause of that. esp if they have child. they need money and time for child.

@@gahyeonsimp5396 I think they meant age limit of a debut group? It would be so interesting to have an older group that has older trainees.

@@bobthebuilderday6leader yea, since there's fast bloomer and late bloomer. there might be some really huge talents not discovered cause of age limit to debut. tbh, i wish they debut idols that are ready to debut(regardless of age )

@@gahyeonsimp5396 yes, they may find their passion but that doesn’t mean they have still developed. They debut young idols to get money by sexualising them. That is in now say ok. This is basically like child labour, the only difference is the “idols” sign a contract at an age in which they are not aware of the consequences and the reality and disgusting things of this world.

@@sumanmisra7656 which is why guardian needed. kids are not allowed to sign contract alone/without guardian aproaval. in the end of the day the problem is not them "debuting young", the problem is the "dirty industry". and thats where guardian roles come in. its their responsible to makesure they're not stuck on unsafe environment. if they failed to do that, its not "debuting young" fault. its the guardian failure to put the kids on safe environment, and the industry fault. lets not act that there are no humane company on industry that priotize kids safeties.
tbh wrong or right depend on the person. we got no right to say other people choice are wrong or right. some idol who debut underage might said its wrong and regret it when they've become adult and some might said that its right and not regretting it. many of my friends quit school on 7th grade and get a job/pursue their passion. "school are not everyone". so yea imo open option for minor with adult guidance are important.
also underage or not, sexualizing are wrong. its sad how our shield are gone once we're not minor

tbh. i agree and disagree. some kids who are ready can debut as idols. we need variety of concept and more age market. kids idol can be idols for younger teen or kids, young adult idols could be marketed toward older teens and woman taste. and adult woman idols like this can be marketed for older woman etc. itzy(back then) is the perfect example of teen concept. and i personally enjoy seeing idol grow, and change on style. there's some sort of attachment

don't use the word "noise music" plz it's disrespectful

@@gahyeonsimp5396 oh, I see what u mean, but honestly, they’re just teens. Idol life is nothing to play with, and it’s a literal job. They are still so young and deserve to have time to explore their life and this important age. Most of them even drop school, just to turn 25 and be labelled as too old to work as an idol and literally having no other good job option cause they did not even graduated from high school. And this is just an example- there’re so much things wrong with debuting young idols like this. So let’s not act like teenager years are the best to debut

@@sunnyjeon the problem is not debuting them as underage idols. the problem is 'management'. also you need to remember that lot of people have a diffrent way of viewing life, diffrent passion, etc and they are allowed to make their own choice. some young kids discovered their passion fast in their life. and some even think that passion is the most important thing in their life. lot of my friend quit school and work cause thats what they want. and lot of them didn't regret it. honestly back then if my parents support my passion, i would quit highschool and i won't even enter university. i still regret it until now. cause i basicly lost my chance :/

@@kkkkkkkkkkkk it may be disrespectful but alot of music is like nowadays from them.
But thing is because we never actually realized that those "young teens now" are getting to our year we actually started to realize they are young
14-19 year olds
The only reason we didn't thing much of it is because 1990's. Most of us are now in the 2000's now it's getting concerning? No it was already concerning. Just because it was 1990's years does not mean that they were older. It means we were still young and we didn't think much of it only because it didn't seem strange to us. Once again because we were young.
If your 23 and older that's fine cuz you know how it feels to have someone around your age be young.
1990-1999 (those were the ages back then).
Now it's 2000-2009 (there is some 13-14 year olds I didn't forget about them)
I hate when people say they are getting younger when they aren't. We just didn't realize how bad it was until we were that age as well.
Also to add to noise music.
Alot of songs now literally all sound the same because of the noise music (there's a certain instrument being used in the back that makes that sound).
When you say you like noise music you really don't. It's only because you forced yourself to listen to it. Either because you don't want to feel left out from the fandom or you just hear it too much so you got used to it.
This is my opinion and solely mine.
Don't forget that.
But in a sense it is also true. If you actually listen carefully to the instrumentals you can start to hear it a bit. It's either they don't hide it at all or they have a hint of the sound being added.
I noticed it when I started listening closely to the instrumentals.
In my opinion I can't listen to much of the new songs because it doesn't got right for me. If I usually don't like the song I don't listen to it.
For Enhypen I only forced myself to because I wanted to hear their voices in a song.
I'm really disappointed that BeLift doesn't make good actual songs for Enha.
It's literally hard for me to listen to Enhypen when at max I only like 3-4 songs.
Please listen this is only my opinion.
I'm repeating because I know there are people out there who will try to take my down if I say something bad about their groups.
I get it. I used to be like that too.
But guys seriously kpop is not life.
Kpop is a genre of music.
That you can listen to and can always come back to.
We have other things to worry about other than kpop. So please just keep this in mind.

Wait they have just one song and then it's the end like wtf-

WHAAAAT

I was gonna stan them 😭😭😭😭😭😭

@@vcyxz._. it’s because some live in different countries and since they are moms it would be very inconvenient

I'm so upset that I just found out about them

are them permanent group?

thanks for explaining

@@vanessapriscilla9519 i think it's only a project group

I love this! I always thought it was weird that idols arent allowed to have normal lives. Imagine being a current idol and a mom!

Wow! It's so cool!

Kahi es poderosa

Si^^

Si

Siii

pues son mamis uwu 😂👌

Eunji was the hottest here 🔥

Not a single lie, on the other hand the step back song which i expected to be a super empowering song- the lyrics were so flop- inever expected it. When i first listened i thought winter sang “We are on the next level” (idk korean so-) then came to know what it was 💀 like-

Right? Step back was like what....

@@srersh05 same 😭💔

The song isn't necessarily bad, it's just the beat probably, but the lyrics are...

Actually, she came back stronger by just being a complete housewife & mom of 3. Such an amazing woman!

Going back to work if you want to after having kids should be completely normal but sadly it isn't :(

I love Sunye but gotta correct you, Park jiyoon is the original queen produced by Park jinyoung

@@chapulines7034 I think that title would go to Jinju. JYP didn't work with park jiyoon until 2000

si hubieran causado controversia, por qué los coreanos harían el programa en primer lugar…

Es verdad una que conose la industria siempre tratarán de bajar y menospreciar a grupos y estándares que no soy adecuadas para los koreanos y esperemos que esta ves se callen la boca los koreanos y no estén acosandolas o menospreciando su trabajo hay que cuidarlas 💗

@@webtoon04 It's not really a controversy for korean standards, more like a hot topic, unique, and that's why it gained attention I suppose

Entonces pq hicieron un programa? Segun tu son solo los coreanos pero en realidad fueron tmb otros fans del kpop de todo el mundo por favor infórmate mejor y no culpes solo a los coreanos

Nada que ver... No han causado controversia.🤦🏽‍♀️

Талант не пропьешь))

Так сказали, как будто в 30 уже ложиться и умирать пора. Адекватный вид)

​@@foxseverпросто это все культ молодости

she’s showing these new kids what charisma looks like! she will forever be our charismatic leader min 🥺🧡

I heard Sunye is planning to release a solo album as what I have heard while watching my mom is an idol. She was actually searching for a rapper they said

@@lifewithmint7051 Oh wow, thanks for telling me, I had no idea! Hope it'll be released soon :)!

A qué grupos pertenecían?

@@onlyelf174 Aquí un videito de nuestra diosa Jini Channel explicando: krplus.net/bidio/aZSdaYCsaWqZmXo

프로그램(엄마는 아이돌) 컨셉이 '아이가 있는 현직 엄마, 전직 아이돌을 모아 재데뷔 시킨다'라서 가사도 그렇고 프로젝트 그룹 명을 지은 듯..
그리고 짧게 할거라 작명에 크게 연연해 하지 않은 듯

ㅇㅈ 가사는 그렇다 해도 다른 좋은 팀명후보들 많던데 마마돌..

@@user-fb9je9sb5t 전 팀명중에 WOW좋았는뎅,,,

@@tnwls8262 아 맞아요 그거 뒤집으먼 MOM인거 되게 참신하던뎅

세간의 시선이랑 다르게 엄마라고 해도 원하는걸 할 수 있다는게 이 프로의 취지니깐요

Her part is so captivating 😍😍😍

I was actually surprised to know she wasn't and idol before

TRUE!!!! I love her beauty

TRUE!!!!

She's an actress after all, but she seems to have a lot of natural talent and charisma. She also grew so much in the show. I'm so proud of her.

Wait these girls the one who started kpop?

@@misterpurple9440 if you ever listened to 'nobody', one of them is here hehe

@@ferisah.tamara6004 wonder girls? Ouh i see.

@@misterpurple9440 SUNYE the leader and main vocalist of WONDER GIRLS

@@djiedragon ouh ok thank you

I can't understand how her kids called her ugly WTF GIRLS YOUR MOM IS A WHOLE ASS VISUAL

I’ve been thinking that she’s definitely the visual of the group! Though all of them look stunning considering they’re all moms in their 30s and 40s

@@shruthakeerthi4559 What??

@@Frozzter it's shown on the show. She has three daughters and they kept telling her "Mom I don't think you should be an idol" "you're not pretty enough" and stuff. It's bullshit tho Eunji is gorgeous.

@@shruthakeerthi4559 yeah... I hate her kids for insulting their mother and made eunji had insecurity. She joins this program to prove to her kids that she is amazing!

la edad no tiene nada que ver con el fanatismo extremo ._.

@@alexss3661 a los ídols más jóvenes o que aún no tienen una relación o hijos, son más probables que sus fans tengan estas ideas justamente porque la industria refuerza que el Idol no debe enamorarse porque traiciona a sus fans y cosas ilógicas así.

​@@fakiu4554 pues si pero eso es algo que pasa con todos los idols sin importar la edad. Si este grupo no fuera de madres y fueran mujeres solteras tendrían fans que piensen así de ellas. Por lo general las mujeres apoyan a los grupos masculinos y los hombres apoyan a grupos femeninos justamente porque los idols son personas extremadamente guapas y con muchos encantos que tienen un nivel de cercanía más profundo con sus fans. Todo eso crea la receta perfecta para que existan fans obsesionados que prefieran vivir en una fantasía donde sus idols los aprecien y reconozcan. Este es un problema de la industria pero a la vez es una muy buena estrategia para las agencias de kpop ya que los grupos ganan fans que son leales y que apoyan más que cualquier otro tipo de fandom de artistas de otras nacionalidades, además es un negocio más lucrativo pero las consecuencias no son desconocidas. Hasta ahora no he visto a ningún grupo de mujeres u hombres casados además de Mamadol, y de hecho no hace mucho escuché de un miembro creo que de TVXQ o 2PM no recuerdo bien cual de esos grupos pero como se había casado había perdido muchas fans y su comeback que fue hace unos meses no tuvo casi nada de apoyo y también está la controversia de Chen de EXO que ya tiene esposa y creo que dos hijas y muchas fans armaron un escándalo en su momento y dejaron el fandom. Es porque se fomenta la idea de que los idols son novios o novias ideales. Si se dejara ese pensamiento de lado existirían fans que sean leales al artista aún si está casado o casada? yo creo que en muy pocos casos ya que venderte al novio o a la novia ideal es justamente lo que hace que el kpop sea tan atractivo para las personas de todo el mundo ya que BTS incluso da esa imagen. Ahora, si fuera un grupo femenino cuyas fans sean mujeres que no ven a las idols de esa forma creo que habría más tolerancia y respeto hacia su vida privada. No quiere decir que el género y orientación sexual marquen mucho la diferencia pero creo que si influyen. Como el kpop es un género más aclamado por el público femenino a nivel mundial existen muchas mujeres que apoyan a grupos femeninos y se nota que hay más tolerancia en ese sentido. Si Mamadol fuera un grupo permanente estoy segura de que la mayoría de sus fans serían mujeres tal como el caso de Mamamoo, e incluso leyendo los comentarios en coreano muchas las llaman unnies así que es interesante ver como entre mujeres demostramos más apoyo y como tu dices se rompen los estereotipos. Pero una vez más no tiene que ver con la edad, sino con la percepción de los fans sobre sus idols.

@@alexss3661 Me parece que sí está relacionado, cuánto más "viejo" es un Idol es más "aceptable" que tenga pareja o familia. Imagínate que fuera un Idol de 18 que saliera con otro, lo ven peor. No entiendo cómo pueden pensar que por seguirlos, les deben lealtad o algo así. Se supone que te gusta su arte y apoyas su carrera, y en los que tú Idol quiera lograr. Qué bueno encontrarme con alguien que sabe de esto como tú 🤗, saludos desde Perú.

Yeeeeesss !!!

I think it’s hard being a mom and a wife especially have a family to live in a idol life, but it’s really cool and fresh concept since nowdays idol full of underage kid.

How long are they a group?? I didn't watch the show but I was really excited about this group... I was assuming they were gonna be the usual year or two temporary group.... are they even less??

@@sarahsmile8451 sadly it's just a project group created only for the show. and the last ep of the show is tomorrow :(

@@annette9243 Oh, like I said I didn't watch the show but I thought they were gonna be a group for a little while after the show like normal temporary groups.

Oozing charisma

Byul is stunning! 🥰
It's like she was born to perform like this, I'm in love!

Only for fans over 18 years old onnanoko.tokyo/KARARE 💜
mañas no se la
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
Asi con toy y sus mañas no se la lease que escriba bien mamon hay nomas pa ra reirse un rato y no estar triste y estresado.por la vida dura que se vive hoy .
Köz karaş: ''Taŋ kaldım''
Erinder: ''Sezimdüü''
Jılmayuu: ''Tattuuraak''
Dene: ''Muzdak''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu.#垃圾
Son unos de los mejores conciertos , no puede ir pero de tan solo verlos desde pantalla, se que estuvo sorprendente
💗❤️💌💘

That! and the premise that they are way above the "idol" age in Korea, AND that they are all mothers!

Sooo much better than all of these fake-confident little girls!!

There's Mamamoo too in the category for strong confident women

@@multi68 true!!

@once forever if it's not because of nobody, i probably don't know anything about kpop

After all those rumours that she would come back to kpop for like a few years after she left WG were floating around but never really happened.

old school kpop was for real indeed

Aye

is that Byul former jyp soloist?

@@flyandhigh im not sure about that, but she is Haha from runningman's wife

@@flyandhigh yes she is!!

She catches my eyes

Haha hyung will be so proud for her ❤️

bcs the producer of this song is the same producer of Mamamoo

Only for fans over 18 years old onnanoko.tokyo/KARARE 💜
mañas no se la
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
Asi con toy y sus mañas no se la lease que escriba bien mamon hay nomas pa ra reirse un rato y no estar triste y estresado.por la vida dura que se vive hoy .
Köz karaş: ''Taŋ kaldım''
Erinder: ''Sezimdüü''
Jılmayuu: ''Tattuuraak''
Dene: ''Muzdak''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu.#垃圾
Son unos de los mejores conciertos , no puede ir pero de tan solo verlos desde pantalla, se que estuvo sorprendente
💗❤️💌💘

She re-debut under the show mom is an idol

@@qweentyongies so is this a permanent group?

@@irenepiovesan4601 it is just a temporary group, it's hard to be permanent since 2 of them reside overseas

@@qweentyongies I know Kahi lives overseas, but who's the other one??

Only for fans over 18 years old onnanoko.tokyo/KARARE 💜
mañas no se la
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
Asi con toy y sus mañas no se la lease que escriba bien mamon hay nomas pa ra reirse un rato y no estar triste y estresado.por la vida dura que se vive hoy .
Köz karaş: ''Taŋ kaldım''
Erinder: ''Sezimdüü''
Jılmayuu: ''Tattuuraak''
Dene: ''Muzdak''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu.#垃圾
Son unos de los mejores conciertos , no puede ir pero de tan solo verlos desde pantalla, se que estuvo sorprendente
💗❤️💌💘

yes. yes! YASSS!!!

Love to see it