Every person that I suggested buying/test driving the Forester ended up buying one. Not even one was disappointed. The value and the practical design and symmetrical AWD make it a compelling option. Thanks for the video.
Another good thing about Forester, the oil filter is top mounted and direct access. The oil-pan's bolt can also be accessed directly, so you don't need to take off a plate first to get to it. My point is, oil change will be easy for DIY. It'd cost you only $30 for full syn and oil filter. If you get a fumoto valve, it would be even easier. This is really a car that works for you.
Agreed wholeheartedly. Visibility is a huge thing for me personally, these are built to be practical cars 1st and foremost and so being able to SEE is something that annoys me about many newer vehicles styling with the high skirt panels/low windows.
@@sergeantbigmac But there are downsides to the car as well -- In my experience Subaru engines are good, until they aren't. Meaning there have been issues with headgaskets over the years and I know about that personally. Also, undercarriage rust -- mine is 10 years and very low mileage and its got a lot of rust on the exhaust system.
I have enjoyed my Forester Wilderness this past year! I love the visability, the ride, the room and the knobs. I've been driving an Outback for 2 weeks as a temporary vehicle, and I prefer the knobs in the Forester to the larger computer screen in the Outback.
Thank you for the great review! A friend of mine picked up a brand new 2022 Forester Touring trim with only 8 miles on it, just a couple of months ago. It's not a fancy car, however, it is more than just a point A - point B transportation. I was impressed by its body style, interior space, features, AND the engine power. No, it doesn't move like an SUV with either a V6 or a turbo charged engine, however, I felt that the Forester's naturally aspirated 4 cylinder engine had enough power for everyday around-town driving. On the freeways, yes, just a bit more power would be better, but I didn't think it was terrible at all. For a compact SUV, I think a smaller 2.7 liter V6 engine with around 200 ~ 210 horses wouldn't be too bad.
Thank you for sharing your insights; you make meaningful fact based information reviews. We just got an autumn green Forester Wilderness last week and the vehicle has exceeded our expectations; we like the practicality and the safety features. It's doing 27 mpg combined in Houston driving. It replaced our 2004 Honda Element, which had since it was brand new.
Great presentation. The flow and orchestration of your review inputs along with commentary are quite informative and enjoyable. You work very well as a team. Just subscribed.
I’m not sure a short review like this can really capture the essence of the new 22’ Forester. We owned the original 2019 new body style Sport, and quite frankly could not have been more happy. In this for you have an option to press a button on the steering wheel to get better transmission response and performance on the highway. The gas mileage is phenomenal, and the overall package is excellent. We did replace the 19 with a 22 this past week, and the new front very sharp. Not only are Subarus fantastic vehicles, they are safe, probably the safest Japanese product out there, and the resale is off the charts. We actually had thousands of dollars of equity in our vehicle, and still kept our payment exactly where it was three years ago. Whether you’re driving in rain, which the vehicle excellent, or snow, they are truly excellent vehicles. We are car people and have driven everything you can think of, but for overall value you cannot go wrong with the Subaru products. No we do not work for Subaru, we are just smart, value oriented, buyers of good products.
Thinking about Trading in my RAV4 for a Forester. Being 6'4 the Forester is far more Roomy than the Rav4. My comfort is paramount. Waiting to see a wilderness.
We had a 2014 Forester when the new redesign debuted. We absolutely loved it but hated the fact that little issues kept popping up here and there (needed a new CV half shaft, some rusting issues, constant bulb replacements, etc..). The CVT failed after 120,000 miles and Subaru covered it. We got a CX-5 after that. Subaru is a stand up company. The Forester was one of our favorite vehicles, just wish we didn’t have those little issues. Great review guys!!! On the road to 200k. You deserve it!
Sorry to hear about all your troubles, but thanks for sharing it. The CX-5 is a great SUV and we are both looking forward to driving the CX-50. Thank you very much for the support, we are getting very close to 200,000 subs and I can't tell you how excited we both are. We wouldn't be here without all of you!
The Forester is nice, we recently looked at both the Forester and the Outback and ended up with the Outback. We’re in the US and picked the Touring XT trim. It’s really such an enjoyable car to drive, comfortable, capable, loaded with tech and safety features, and so practical. Honestly, in many ways it feels just as premium as my 2018 BMW X3, and the Outback is better equipped for about $20k less!
I just found motor mouth again! My phone from T-Mobile had a update and it erased all my subscriptions! Somehow I ran across a picture I had taken of a car and kept and had your your photo and information on it now I'm back to being able to watch your show and subscribe again. I really enjoy you too even if I'm not buying one of the cars, but I might buy a Subaru Forester someday , I still really enjoy how you discuss the newer cars. Thanks for your upbeat spirit and dedication to bringing us good information to make wise decisions.
Such a nice product. Such a good review. Dated yeah, but she works. Good luck Zack and Andrea for the new year. I'll have a bonus for u guys soon. Get ur dancing shoes on.
Wilderness versions of the Outback and Forest have an oil cooler for the CVT, which I guess helps prevent overheating off-road. But hey, the Bronco Sport Badlands has reports of overheating with its normal style automatic, so you never know I guess.
I actually like knobs for climate control in cars. Keeps it simple I can just reach for the knob I want without looking at it and keep my eyes on the road.
We just bought a 2023 Forester Wilderness (pick it up next week). I wouldn't say it is perfect, but seems to do a lot right for what we want/need. Sure, a nicer stereo would have been nice. I guess more power can be fun. But the reality is, most of our driving is zipping around town with a bit of rural driving mixed in and we don't put that many miles on our vehicles anyway. We've never owned a Subaru before, but we bought an extra warranty package (in case something happens) and we are good at ensure regular maintenance is done so hopefully it will be reliable for us (and the warranty will cover any issues if they pop up). We are trading in our 2016 Kia Sorento EX (2.0L Turbo), which has been reasonably good, but it's getting a bit old and since vehicle values are high on used cars we figured it's not a bad time to get something different now. The Sorento is not very good on gas (as is the case for most turbo vehicles) as we typically see fuel economy numbers in the 12L/100kms range (can drop to 9s on the highway though). Yes, the extra power from the turbo engine is nice, but you spend way more on fuel for them so we're fine with the regular engine in the Subaru. We're stuck in traffic 80% of the time anyway so 0-60 times and extra power is often a useless thing to spend more money on, especially on a crossover like this. If you're buying a sports car, sure spend the money on a higher power option if you want (especially if you are going to track it), but not really worth it for regular people movers like these (which is why they dropped the XT model as it wasn't a high volume seller anyway).
I truly love the shape of this Forester. I have owned two generations of this vehicle(SG/SH) but what's sad, which I would love to have again(Although it'll never happen) is the fact that back in the early '00s most of the Subaru vehicles came standard with, a Rear Limited Slip Differential. Great Review you guys.. "Fight the Power." LMAO!!! Nice!!!
I have a 2018 XT, and last week it was snowing very hard, all my neighbors in West Van parked on the road, I was the only one still in the garage, even my driveways is about 20 degree sloped and 10 meters length. When heaviest snow (about 25 cm), it took about 5 attempts with X-mode on and traction off to go up, but going down is no problem at all. When it's light snow (10cm), it's nothing. When you have Subaru, you don't need shovel.
i used to own front wheel drive elantra and nissan sentra with manual transmissions back in the day. With aggressive thread winter tires I never got stuck, went up steep hills and passed countless awd suv stuck or in the ditches. Appropriate tires, driving skills and common sense is all you need. Awd is just added level of safety and sometimes practicality, but its surely overhyped and unnecessary expense.
@@robertduklus6555 For my driveway, when snow is over 20cm, let alone a 2WD, even Forester on winter shoes with X-mode on but traction control on, could not go up.
I bought a 2022 Subaru Outback because the forester wasn’t available on dealer lots. I really wanted the forester in sport trim. I’m still super happy with the Outback, but wonder how much happier I could be. I love the ride quality and how quiet the interior is on the Outback. My father has a 2019 forester and it has more wind noise on the highway by comparison. Hopefully they fixed that for 2022. My only gripe about the Outback is seating position. If I raise the seat up to where my legs are at a comfortable position for me, I don’t have enough headroom. The forester has a higher seating position and significantly more headroom when raising it up. I prefer to have my legs straight with my knees, where in the Outback I have to bend my legs upwards toward my knees. I’m 6’2” for reference. Shorter drivers wouldn’t have this issue.
Funny thing. I was nearly run over by a lady backing out at Wal Mart and she was driving a Forester. If she can't see out of this vehicle what would she do with something with a narrower window line? I always felt the Forester never stood out at any one good thing but it does a little bit of everything and that's what makes it so liveable. I like the ability to enter and exit a vehicle as easily as possible and the space is a huge factor.
I think we can compare the Bronco Sport 1.5l vs the Forester. If you would buy a compact SUV with some off-road capability, the Bronco Sport and the Forester should be in your considerations. Same “box” style with some off-road features.
7:12 don't be too surprised with everyone else starts waving back at you with your hand up like that. I think that the dials, and physical switches are the best. The touch screen and capacitive touch buttons are crappy. When I'm driving, I don't want to be trying to read the screen to find the buttons buried in menus. So old reliable tech is a win for sure!
Awesome vid, I’m super interested in the Forester! I used to have a Wrangler (I miss it so much) and now have a VW Taos….and…well…. while it’s great but.. just not for me. I’m wanting something that’s basically a blend of off road capability + reliability/safety + great interior feel of the Jeep buuuuut the mpg of the Taos. Whatcha think??
Great review, thanks!! Plus, I found out by accident that the paddles shifters (2022 Touring model) work just fine even when you don't put the tranny in "M" mode
Thanks for the great video. Imo these are getting a bit long I find I don’t have 20 minutes to watch these so i fast forward a lot. 8-10 minutes is perfect IMO
Great funny review Andrea! I laughed when you adjusted the temperature by hands. It’s kind of silly tho. I like Forrester because of dashboard but disappointing about smaller touchscreen. 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you, glad you liked it. The gesture control is too gimmicky, just easier to do it yourself with the controls. It was fun showing everyone though lol!
Love your reviews. We purchased the vehicle in this video yesterday. How do you think this interior package would look with the Magnetite Grey Metallic exterior?
The Forester hybrid has been out for a couple of years now. Its a mild hybrid and dosn't seem worth the extra weight, money and having to lose the spare wheel because the battery needs the space. Wish we got the Wilderness model here in the UK. Perfect for snow, sand and mud but also the often worn out, pot holed or speed bumped city streets like we have in London.
yes! I've heard the wilderness literally rides smoother than regular forester models. And I've seen some reviews for the forester hybrid in AU, and the general consensus says that they dont see much actual savings in gas compared to the non hybrid forester. Dont know why but that seems to be what everyone is saying about the forester hybrid. I bet subaru will have a redesigned hybrid system for 2024 when they do their scheduled rebuild of the forester. I bet that's why we havent seen a hybrid version available in the US
I have a 2020 Forester Touring. I don't need a turbo charger. I'm live in the dessert area of So. Cal. we don't get snow, and don't get a whole lot of rain, either, but AWD is awesome for carving corners and tearing up the twisty's. I don't like the really small storage space ahead of the gear shifter. That's about it.
I have owned a 2022 Forester for a month and love it. My only issue is where to put my phone. The area next to the chargers nor next to cup holders don’t fit an iPhone
Hi Motormouth crew! You guys do fantastic work and I wanted to thank you because today I placed my factory order for a touring model (usa) and this video was instrumental in my decision making process. I'm curious though... are the chrome accents just accents? Or do they have a function. Most ppl say it's just cosmetic, but if you look at the forester accesory brochure from subaru, the front bumper under guard accessory has fine print that says "standard on touring models." And the front bumper under guard accessory looks just like the chrome accents on the touring (USA trim)
Hi Andrea this is my favorite car. Like I said wished there is a hybrid or plug in version to make my decision to get a new one. Regret my RAV4. I love this car as you said big windows better visability and safety is the reasons I put this top on my list over the tiny windows of Rav4. Also the price of this car is very reasonable over RAV4 plus the markups.
Subaru is already selling the new forester with hybrid engines in Europe. They called the hybrid engine as “eBoxer”. It has a 2.0-liter non-turbo 150hp gasoline engine and a 12.3hp electric engine with a 13.5 kW battery. Yes, It’s weaker than competitors, but they have a hybrid technology, so, I think they can improve it and bring to the US and Canada.
I’ve always considered Subaru styling little boring, but this refresh works…. my neighbour has it, 2 friends have it… after watching your videos, I can see why, can’t go wrong on this.
Nice breakdown. Could I add a suggestion?. Maybe a bit more talk about handling and steering feel. While I enjoy driving Subarus (3 in the family) I more or less find them to be kinda ugly. My 07 Forester XT has grown on me in the last few years though. Used to be ugly, but with the way new cars are going, it is starting to look very purposeful and distinguished ! 315,000 KM, running good, aiming for 400.
Looking at a 2021/22 Forester vs a 2019 Acura RDX A-Spec. I know they're very different, but after driving the RDX it's very hard to get out of my mind.
I am very intrigued with the Forester…thanks for this great review! To me, it has the most attractive interior and dash than any vehicle in this segment. I love the info screen imbedded in the dash rather than the “tablet glued on top” style of many other brands. It seems to be the most versatile and practical SUV for northern climes (like here in Alberta) and I can forgive the lack of power for the fuel savings and awesome all wheel drive capability. But how is the info screen and stereo? Would’ve like to have seen your comments on them…
We have the 2019 Forester Touring and agree the upgraded sound system and larger screen is MUCH better than the base. I wouldn’t change anything about it, we love it 20k miles later and live in NJ. Love the remote start feature from the phone.
Having had two previous Foresters (the last one being a 2005 fully loaded that I sold in Oregon in 2011), I really miss them. Zack and Andrea are very correct when they mention the incredible outward visibility when you’re in this car. Also, when I was living in Ontario and drove this in the winter, and would occasionally hit black ice or other nasty wintry weather, this car handled extremely well and its safety was fantastic. Now that I too live in Alberta, I really think it’s time to get a new one (to replace a Mazda that just doesn’t cut it well enough on the road).
People should be cross shopping this with the new 2022 Mitsubishi Outlander. Both have similar power trains and output. I’d argue the Mitsu is better bang for your buck, Subaru will hold resale better. Here in Canada, we seem to be obsessed with Subarus for some reason… Both have arguably the best in class awd systems. Symmetrical Awd from Subaru and S-AWC from Mitsu are both fantastic. Similar fuel economy.
The Forester Turbo did not sell well enough in the USA, in part thanks to some consumer magazines that heavily criticized it for requiring Premium fuel, when in reality Premium was __recommended__ for the Turbo to make its maximum power (similar situation to the Mazda CX-5/50 Turbos). US Reviewers also felt turbo cost too much, though in top tier models adding a turbo was far less expensive ($2000 or so). Unfortunately the two Forester XT turbos I owned ('14 and '17) had serious engine reliability issues with valves and excessive sooting (fouling spark plugs). Their newer 2.4 Turbo, so far, doesn't seem to have those problems.
Great video! I have two boys (14,11) and am looking at Rav4,Forester,Outback. We Are active and MNB and ski. Im downsizing from an ‘05 Yukon. What would you suggest? I like the new Outback but they are like $55k for a GT.
I think the Forester is a remarkable SUV for the money. The only concern I have is the small engine. The Forester uses the same 2.5 Liter boxer engine as the Crosstrek however the Forester is 230 pounds heavier. This might account for the lackluster engine performance in the Forester.
On retirement salary, I decided on the '22 premium. I'll miss my 2020 4Runner, but the Subaru at $399 / mo is much easier to pay than the $707 / mo Toyota. I did get $8,000 more for the 4Runner than new 2 years ago.
Why does the Forester have a much bigger sunroof/moonroof than the Outback? I thought the Outback was the top model? Do you know the answer to the sunroof/moonroof question?
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a limited trim next!! Just bought one from my local dealership and it doesnt get here till end of february and im really excited, but no good reviews out there :( I know you will do a good job at it!
We have a hybrid option in Australia (it’s more of a mild hybrid but they don’t call it that) and it barley sells. It has the same system as the XV (crostrek) which is a 2.0 with a motor in the cvt and a small battery under the boot. It’s very slow, gets barely any better fuel economy. Even the sales person said to avoid it and just go for the 2.5. If the sold it with the 2.5 and not the 2.0 it would probably sell better
I like these wagons. With gas prices going way up and staying up these vehicles are a better alternative to a truck. ..As for the hot topic.. i think its Zack’s passenger.
There just doesn't seems to be enough softroaders in the market now. You either have hard core offroaders such as Wrangler and Defender, or generic SUV such as Highlander, RAV4 etc. Subaru Wilderness can be a good middle of the road choice.
I have a 2017 Subrau Forester XT 4 cyl turbo that has gone from D 1. To D (S) blinking, check engine. And Speed has demished feeling like it is pulling rather hard. How did this change happen and how do i get it back in D !?
Sold my 2020 forester, sheet metal was thin and door dings were so common. Rattled and felt less solid than the previous generation. Weight reduction and MPG were prioritized. I hated the ride quality and feared big bumps. Not going back.
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Every person that I suggested buying/test driving the Forester ended up buying one. Not even one was disappointed. The value and the practical design and symmetrical AWD make it a compelling option. Thanks for the video.
We absolutely agree with you!
Another good thing about Forester, the oil filter is top mounted and direct access. The oil-pan's bolt can also be accessed directly, so you don't need to take off a plate first to get to it. My point is, oil change will be easy for DIY. It'd cost you only $30 for full syn and oil filter. If you get a fumoto valve, it would be even easier. This is really a car that works for you.
That is quite interesting. You can’t even ‘see’ the oil filter on some modern cars (Porsche Boxster).
@@L110508 Thank you for making me learn about Fumoto valves. Before reading your comment, I'd never heard of this. I think I'll try it.
The best thing IMHO about the Forester is the visibility when compared to the others in this class.
Agreed wholeheartedly. Visibility is a huge thing for me personally, these are built to be practical cars 1st and foremost and so being able to SEE is something that annoys me about many newer vehicles styling with the high skirt panels/low windows.
@@sergeantbigmac But there are downsides to the car as well -- In my experience Subaru engines are good, until they aren't. Meaning there have been issues with headgaskets over the years and I know about that personally. Also, undercarriage rust -- mine is 10 years and very low mileage and its got a lot of rust on the exhaust system.
Isn’t this head gasket issue only on older models???
Can a Subaru mechanic give us some truth to this head gasket story
Please!!!!!!!
@@garyboudreau2872 That's what I thought too but I had mine replaced at 10 years (2012) and less than 30k miles.
Older models had the grad gasket leak issues
I have enjoyed my Forester Wilderness this past year! I love the visability, the ride, the room and the knobs. I've been driving an Outback for 2 weeks as a temporary vehicle, and I prefer the knobs in the Forester to the larger computer screen in the Outback.
Just took delivery of my 2022 Forester Premium. What an awesome car. This review helped alot. Watched it several times before I got my Forester.
Love your review! Great job! The Wilderness trim in Autumn Green looks amazing!
Thank you so much!
Thank you for the great review!
A friend of mine picked up a brand new 2022 Forester Touring trim with only 8 miles on it, just a couple of months ago. It's not a fancy car, however, it is more than just a point A - point B transportation. I was impressed by its body style, interior space, features, AND the engine power. No, it doesn't move like an SUV with either a V6 or a turbo charged engine, however, I felt that the Forester's naturally aspirated 4 cylinder engine had enough power for everyday around-town driving. On the freeways, yes, just a bit more power would be better, but I didn't think it was terrible at all. For a compact SUV, I think a smaller 2.7 liter V6 engine with around 200 ~ 210 horses wouldn't be too bad.
To me, the Forester has much more room for those of us on the plus scale. Also much easier to get in and out.
Thank you for sharing your insights; you make meaningful fact based information reviews. We just got an autumn green Forester Wilderness last week and the vehicle has exceeded our expectations; we like the practicality and the safety features. It's doing 27 mpg combined in Houston driving. It replaced our 2004 Honda Element, which had since it was brand new.
Congratulations!
I love my 2017 Forester! Thanks for this review!
Thanks for watching!
Great presentation. The flow and orchestration of your review inputs along with commentary are quite informative and enjoyable. You work very well as a team. Just subscribed.
We just purchased a 22’ Premier. Thank you for this informal video, very excited to get behind the wheel of it.
“Fight the power!” Lol! You both are hilarious! Great review!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.
Fajny format. Przyjemnie się ogląda.
Thanks for highlighting that neat search feature to find videos. Neat. I like this car too!
I’m not sure a short review like this can really capture the essence of the new 22’ Forester. We owned the original 2019 new body style Sport, and quite frankly could not have been more happy. In this for you have an option to press a button on the steering wheel to get better transmission response and performance on the highway. The gas mileage is phenomenal, and the overall package is excellent. We did replace the 19 with a 22 this past week, and the new front very sharp. Not only are Subarus fantastic vehicles, they are safe, probably the safest Japanese product out there, and the resale is off the charts. We actually had thousands of dollars of equity in our vehicle, and still kept our payment exactly where it was three years ago. Whether you’re driving in rain, which the vehicle excellent, or snow, they are truly excellent vehicles. We are car people and have driven everything you can think of, but for overall value you cannot go wrong with the Subaru products. No we do not work for Subaru, we are just smart, value oriented, buyers of good products.
can i ask how you find the power in 22 Forester? I feel like the non-turbo is a gamechanger and id opt for the outback. How's hwy driving?
Love the updates and the colour!
Thinking about Trading in my RAV4 for a Forester. Being 6'4 the Forester is far more Roomy than the Rav4. My comfort is paramount. Waiting to see a wilderness.
Ya'll are cute. Its cool that you guys to do this as a couple. This car is on my list of potential buys.
We had a 2014 Forester when the new redesign debuted. We absolutely loved it but hated the fact that little issues kept popping up here and there (needed a new CV half shaft, some rusting issues, constant bulb replacements, etc..). The CVT failed after 120,000 miles and Subaru covered it. We got a CX-5 after that. Subaru is a stand up company. The Forester was one of our favorite vehicles, just wish we didn’t have those little issues. Great review guys!!! On the road to 200k. You deserve it!
Sorry to hear about all your troubles, but thanks for sharing it. The CX-5 is a great SUV and we are both looking forward to driving the CX-50. Thank you very much for the support, we are getting very close to 200,000 subs and I can't tell you how excited we both are. We wouldn't be here without all of you!
A failed CVT is not a little issue, neither is the rust.
Why did Subaru cover it, did you have a special warranty?
The Forester is nice, we recently looked at both the Forester and the Outback and ended up with the Outback. We’re in the US and picked the Touring XT trim. It’s really such an enjoyable car to drive, comfortable, capable, loaded with tech and safety features, and so practical. Honestly, in many ways it feels just as premium as my 2018 BMW X3, and the Outback is better equipped for about $20k less!
Great review, and I love the temperature control moves Andrea, it looked like you have Hulk hands! :)
Always enjoy your reviews...nice Canadian content :)
Thank you very much!
I just found motor mouth again! My phone from T-Mobile had a update and it erased all my subscriptions! Somehow I ran across a picture I had taken of a car and kept and had your your photo and information on it now I'm back to being able to watch your show and subscribe again. I really enjoy you too even if I'm not buying one of the cars, but I might buy a Subaru Forester someday , I still really enjoy how you discuss the newer cars. Thanks for your upbeat spirit and dedication to bringing us good information to make wise decisions.
Welcome back!
You two are my favorite and a great review as always, god bless and a Happy New Year !!
Thank you so much, we appreciate the support!
A big fan of suburu we love our crosstrek.
Such a nice product. Such a good review. Dated yeah, but she works. Good luck Zack and Andrea for the new year. I'll have a bonus for u guys soon. Get ur dancing shoes on.
Thanks for another solid review. So much info in your videos. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Wilderness versions of the Outback and Forest have an oil cooler for the CVT, which I guess helps prevent overheating off-road. But hey, the Bronco Sport Badlands has reports of overheating with its normal style automatic, so you never know I guess.
Outstanding channel -- thank you both very much! Liked and subscribed!
I sure see a lot of Foresters on the road....starting to see the Wilderness Trim.
That brown leather interior is quite attractive.
I actually like knobs for climate control in cars. Keeps it simple I can just reach for the knob I want without looking at it and keep my eyes on the road.
Excellent review.
In the UK and Germany, Subaru offers the "e-Boxer", which is a self-charging 2 litre engine with a little electric motor (ca. 17 PS).
We just bought a 2023 Forester Wilderness (pick it up next week). I wouldn't say it is perfect, but seems to do a lot right for what we want/need. Sure, a nicer stereo would have been nice. I guess more power can be fun. But the reality is, most of our driving is zipping around town with a bit of rural driving mixed in and we don't put that many miles on our vehicles anyway. We've never owned a Subaru before, but we bought an extra warranty package (in case something happens) and we are good at ensure regular maintenance is done so hopefully it will be reliable for us (and the warranty will cover any issues if they pop up). We are trading in our 2016 Kia Sorento EX (2.0L Turbo), which has been reasonably good, but it's getting a bit old and since vehicle values are high on used cars we figured it's not a bad time to get something different now. The Sorento is not very good on gas (as is the case for most turbo vehicles) as we typically see fuel economy numbers in the 12L/100kms range (can drop to 9s on the highway though). Yes, the extra power from the turbo engine is nice, but you spend way more on fuel for them so we're fine with the regular engine in the Subaru. We're stuck in traffic 80% of the time anyway so 0-60 times and extra power is often a useless thing to spend more money on, especially on a crossover like this. If you're buying a sports car, sure spend the money on a higher power option if you want (especially if you are going to track it), but not really worth it for regular people movers like these (which is why they dropped the XT model as it wasn't a high volume seller anyway).
Never was a fan of the Forester but this gen is really nice
I like how they made the touchscreen smaller.
Great review. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
I truly love the shape of this Forester. I have owned two generations of this vehicle(SG/SH) but what's sad, which I would love to have again(Although it'll never happen) is the fact that back in the early '00s most of the Subaru vehicles came standard with, a Rear Limited Slip Differential. Great Review you guys.. "Fight the Power." LMAO!!! Nice!!!
Can you add one?
I have a 2018 XT, and last week it was snowing very hard, all my neighbors in West Van parked on the road, I was the only one still in the garage, even my driveways is about 20 degree sloped and 10 meters length. When heaviest snow (about 25 cm), it took about 5 attempts with X-mode on and traction off to go up, but going down is no problem at all. When it's light snow (10cm), it's nothing. When you have Subaru, you don't need shovel.
i used to own front wheel drive elantra and nissan sentra with manual transmissions back in the day. With aggressive thread winter tires I never got stuck, went up steep hills and passed countless awd suv stuck or in the ditches. Appropriate tires, driving skills and common sense is all you need. Awd is just added level of safety and sometimes practicality, but its surely overhyped and unnecessary expense.
@@robertduklus6555 For my driveway, when snow is over 20cm, let alone a 2WD, even Forester on winter shoes with X-mode on but traction control on, could not go up.
true, ask peter solberg
I bought a 2022 Subaru Outback because the forester wasn’t available on dealer lots. I really wanted the forester in sport trim. I’m still super happy with the Outback, but wonder how much happier I could be. I love the ride quality and how quiet the interior is on the Outback. My father has a 2019 forester and it has more wind noise on the highway by comparison. Hopefully they fixed that for 2022. My only gripe about the Outback is seating position. If I raise the seat up to where my legs are at a comfortable position for me, I don’t have enough headroom. The forester has a higher seating position and significantly more headroom when raising it up. I prefer to have my legs straight with my knees, where in the Outback I have to bend my legs upwards toward my knees. I’m 6’2” for reference. Shorter drivers wouldn’t have this issue.
Funny thing. I was nearly run over by a lady backing out at Wal Mart and she was driving a Forester. If she can't see out of this vehicle what would she do with something with a narrower window line? I always felt the Forester never stood out at any one good thing but it does a little bit of everything and that's what makes it so liveable. I like the ability to enter and exit a vehicle as easily as possible and the space is a huge factor.
I think we can compare the Bronco Sport 1.5l vs the Forester. If you would buy a compact SUV with some off-road capability, the Bronco Sport and the Forester should be in your considerations. Same “box” style with some off-road features.
7:12 don't be too surprised with everyone else starts waving back at you with your hand up like that. I think that the dials, and physical switches are the best. The touch screen and capacitive touch buttons are crappy. When I'm driving, I don't want to be trying to read the screen to find the buttons buried in menus. So old reliable tech is a win for sure!
Awesome vid, I’m super interested in the Forester! I used to have a Wrangler (I miss it so much) and now have a VW Taos….and…well…. while it’s great but.. just not for me. I’m wanting something that’s basically a blend of off road capability + reliability/safety + great interior feel of the Jeep buuuuut the mpg of the Taos. Whatcha think??
Great review, thanks!!
Plus, I found out by accident that the paddles shifters (2022 Touring model) work just fine even when you don't put the tranny in "M" mode
Love the Forrester & love Subarus ;)
Thanks for the great video. Imo these are getting a bit long I find I don’t have 20 minutes to watch these so i fast forward a lot. 8-10 minutes is perfect IMO
Didn't you previously recommend the Sport trim?
Great funny review Andrea! I laughed when you adjusted the temperature by hands. It’s kind of silly tho. I like Forrester because of dashboard but disappointing about smaller touchscreen. 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you, glad you liked it. The gesture control is too gimmicky, just easier to do it yourself with the controls. It was fun showing everyone though lol!
@@andreaspencer9813 I agree Andrea. 👍🏻👍🏻
Love your reviews. We purchased the vehicle in this video yesterday. How do you think this interior package would look with the Magnetite Grey Metallic exterior?
The Forester hybrid has been out for a couple of years now. Its a mild hybrid and dosn't seem worth the extra weight, money and having to lose the spare wheel because the battery needs the space. Wish we got the Wilderness model here in the UK. Perfect for snow, sand and mud but also the often worn out, pot holed or speed bumped city streets like we have in London.
yes! I've heard the wilderness literally rides smoother than regular forester models.
And I've seen some reviews for the forester hybrid in AU, and the general consensus says that they dont see much actual savings in gas compared to the non hybrid forester. Dont know why but that seems to be what everyone is saying about the forester hybrid.
I bet subaru will have a redesigned hybrid system for 2024 when they do their scheduled rebuild of the forester. I bet that's why we havent seen a hybrid version available in the US
Never knew Public Enemy did automotive consulting! Fight the power! ✊
I have a 2020 Forester Touring. I don't need a turbo charger. I'm live in the dessert area of So. Cal. we don't get snow, and don't get a whole lot of rain, either, but AWD is awesome for carving corners and tearing up the twisty's.
I don't like the really small storage space ahead of the gear shifter. That's about it.
Danke, Motormouth Andrea & Motormouth McOtto.
I love to see Subaru when get top of line Forester 8 speed auto and 2.4 liter 228 hp and about 240 on the tq.
Which would you pick for driving on a road trip, the Subaru Forester Limited or the Honda CR-V Touring?
Super autó, mi is nagyon szeretjük. 👌 Köszönöm
I have owned a 2022 Forester for a month and love it. My only issue is where to put my phone. The area next to the chargers nor next to cup holders don’t fit an iPhone
Hi Motormouth crew! You guys do fantastic work and I wanted to thank you because today I placed my factory order for a touring model (usa) and this video was instrumental in my decision making process.
I'm curious though... are the chrome accents just accents? Or do they have a function. Most ppl say it's just cosmetic, but if you look at the forester accesory brochure from subaru, the front bumper under guard accessory has fine print that says "standard on touring models." And the front bumper under guard accessory looks just like the chrome accents on the touring (USA trim)
Andrea is adorable! 😍 oh yea, good review too lol 😆
Could you review the 2022 forester sport trim
Hi Andrea this is my favorite car. Like I said wished there is a hybrid or plug in version to make my decision to get a new one. Regret my RAV4. I love this car as you said big windows better visability and safety is the reasons I put this top on my list over the tiny windows of Rav4. Also the price of this car is very reasonable over RAV4 plus the markups.
Nice review .. how do you compare with Nissan rogue 2021..?
Subaru is already selling the new forester with hybrid engines in Europe. They called the hybrid engine as “eBoxer”. It has a 2.0-liter non-turbo 150hp gasoline engine and a 12.3hp electric engine with a 13.5 kW battery. Yes, It’s weaker than competitors, but they have a hybrid technology, so, I think they can improve it and bring to the US and Canada.
I’ve always considered Subaru styling little boring, but this refresh works…. my neighbour has it, 2 friends have it… after watching your videos, I can see why, can’t go wrong on this.
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The practicality in the winter can't be understated
Nice breakdown. Could I add a suggestion?. Maybe a bit more talk about handling and steering feel. While I enjoy driving Subarus (3 in the family) I more or less find them to be kinda ugly. My 07 Forester XT has grown on me in the last few years though. Used to be ugly, but with the way new cars are going, it is starting to look very purposeful and distinguished ! 315,000 KM, running good, aiming for 400.
At 12,000 km a year comparing the Forester Touring with an equivalently priced RAV 4 XLE AWD Hybrid which would you choose?
The one thing no one mentions cost of ownership long term any mechanic will say these are built to be easy to repair.
Thanks for sharing!
Looking at a 2021/22 Forester vs a 2019 Acura RDX A-Spec. I know they're very different, but after driving the RDX it's very hard to get out of my mind.
I noticed that the EyeSight cameras on the 22 refresh look different, is this a newer system of EyeSight?
Good show.
I am very intrigued with the Forester…thanks for this great review! To me, it has the most attractive interior and dash than any vehicle in this segment. I love the info screen imbedded in the dash rather than the “tablet glued on top” style of many other brands. It seems to be the most versatile and practical SUV for northern climes (like here in Alberta) and I can forgive the lack of power for the fuel savings and awesome all wheel drive capability. But how is the info screen and stereo? Would’ve like to have seen your comments on them…
The Limited and Premier have the upgraded Harmon Karden sound system, and is worth the extra few bucks.
I think the Mazda series have nicer interiors overall out of all the Japanese products . However , the Subarus are still a nice car
We have the 2019 Forester Touring and agree the upgraded sound system and larger screen is MUCH better than the base. I wouldn’t change anything about it, we love it 20k miles later and live in NJ. Love the remote start feature from the phone.
Having had two previous Foresters (the last one being a 2005 fully loaded that I sold in Oregon in 2011), I really miss them. Zack and Andrea are very correct when they mention the incredible outward visibility when you’re in this car. Also, when I was living in Ontario and drove this in the winter, and would occasionally hit black ice or other nasty wintry weather, this car handled extremely well and its safety was fantastic. Now that I too live in Alberta, I really think it’s time to get a new one (to replace a Mazda that just doesn’t cut it well enough on the road).
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One more thing, how are Forester and Outback for mountainous driving please?
It was a nice long trip car, took it from SoCal all the way to aspen colorado.
People should be cross shopping this with the new 2022 Mitsubishi Outlander. Both have similar power trains and output. I’d argue the Mitsu is better bang for your buck, Subaru will hold resale better. Here in Canada, we seem to be obsessed with Subarus for some reason… Both have arguably the best in class awd systems. Symmetrical Awd from Subaru and S-AWC from Mitsu are both fantastic. Similar fuel economy.
Would this vehicle be good for commuting over a mountain pass for work?
17:45 Check new 2022 Nissan Rogue comes with 1.5 litre engine, 3 cyl. for SV trims and up!
The Forester Turbo did not sell well enough in the USA, in part thanks to some consumer magazines that heavily criticized it for requiring Premium fuel, when in reality Premium was __recommended__ for the Turbo to make its maximum power (similar situation to the Mazda CX-5/50 Turbos). US Reviewers also felt turbo cost too much, though in top tier models adding a turbo was far less expensive ($2000 or so). Unfortunately the two Forester XT turbos I owned ('14 and '17) had serious engine reliability issues with valves and excessive sooting (fouling spark plugs). Their newer 2.4 Turbo, so far, doesn't seem to have those problems.
Great video! I have two boys (14,11) and am looking at Rav4,Forester,Outback. We Are active and MNB and ski. Im downsizing from an ‘05 Yukon. What would you suggest? I like the new Outback but they are like $55k for a GT.
1999 was such a good year!
It was a great year for us too!
I think the Forester is a remarkable SUV for the money. The only concern I have is the small engine. The Forester uses the same 2.5 Liter boxer engine as the Crosstrek however the Forester is 230 pounds heavier. This might account for the lackluster engine performance in the Forester.
In Europe the only engine you can get since 2 years in the Forester is a 2.0L engine with a MILD HYBRID system !!!
It has 150 + 16,6 hp overall power.
Very good video
Thank you!
On retirement salary, I decided on the '22 premium. I'll miss my 2020 4Runner, but the Subaru at $399 / mo is much easier to pay than the $707 / mo Toyota. I did get $8,000 more for the 4Runner than new 2 years ago.
Why does the Forester have a much bigger sunroof/moonroof than the Outback? I thought the Outback was the top model? Do you know the answer to the sunroof/moonroof question?
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a limited trim next!! Just bought one from my local dealership and it doesnt get here till end of february and im really excited, but no good reviews out there :( I know you will do a good job at it!
You won't be disappointed!
So if you use 🖖 gesture for the climate control what do you get ? Phasers or Torpedoes ? That is way to gimmicky .
I wonder what happens if you put a piece of electrical tape of the camera that tracks motion controls
What happened to the Turbo?
Does the forester wilderness trim comes with heated steering wheel ?
We have a hybrid option in Australia (it’s more of a mild hybrid but they don’t call it that) and it barley sells. It has the same system as the XV (crostrek) which is a 2.0 with a motor in the cvt and a small battery under the boot. It’s very slow, gets barely any better fuel economy. Even the sales person said to avoid it and just go for the 2.5. If the sold it with the 2.5 and not the 2.0 it would probably sell better
I like these wagons. With gas prices going way up and staying up these vehicles are a better alternative to a truck. ..As for the hot topic.. i think its Zack’s passenger.
Subaru HEV/PHEV/EV with symmetrical AWD... why I still don't have a Subarau... YET!
I see Green vehicles are making a comeback. This or the CRV?
I am considering a 2024 Crosstrek Limited and the Forester 2023 Sport. For the price difference in the US, which would you recommend?
There just doesn't seems to be enough softroaders in the market now. You either have hard core offroaders such as Wrangler and Defender, or generic SUV such as Highlander, RAV4 etc. Subaru Wilderness can be a good middle of the road choice.
Compass Trailhawk and Renegade Trailhawk🤷
I have a 2017 Subrau Forester XT 4 cyl turbo that has gone from D 1. To D (S) blinking, check engine. And Speed has demished feeling like it is pulling rather hard. How did this change happen and how do i get it back in D !?
Sold my 2020 forester, sheet metal was thin and door dings were so common. Rattled and felt less solid than the previous generation. Weight reduction and MPG were prioritized. I hated the ride quality and feared big bumps. Not going back.
I know someone who has fit 5 normal size suitcases in the back of the forester with the seats folded up