The State of Rainbow Six Siege

I agree with your disagreements against Bikini’s stances on other games while siege has many similar if not worse issues but I’ll see you in Year 15 in the ranked match hopefully with no cheaters, much love Much Flight hopefully we can find that spark for siege again in both of us.

I agree to disagree with Bikini, his positivity is great and needed but unrealistic. Kind of like most Democrats, Liberals, and Environmentalists these days.

I'm burnt out from siege because of the lack of content

Yo that ending was so fucking good you need to make more videos like this

where did u find the image at 16:32 ?

If enough people ask for it, i would love to. :D
I actually kind of hated editing this because i mean a 20 minute video is pretty hard to edit, but i think it's worth just grinding through it because this stuff is important to me and a lot of other people. i have part of an operator balancing section done because i was going to put it in this video but, I didn't want it to be over 20 minutes so, my apologies.

@@MuchFlight do it. just do it. Just.Do.It JUST.DO.IT
sry xd

Pengu made a 2 hour vid of that i watched

@@MuchFlight pleas do it. Ill watch every ad in it

Go for it

I edited my comment down to nothing because I'm tired of getting hated on for having an opinion on a character. I said one thing and now this whole comment thread is nothing but f you and I'm sick of it. Please just be on with your day. I never wanted my one silly opinion destroy other people. But apparently I can't do that and it sucks. Everyone's right, yes, Jackal I guess is I suppose an easy counter. Fine, you win. All I wanted to do was share my opinions like this comment started out as. It's just KRplus I guess.

@@azazelraidz9539 so you're not a very good player huh? I've never seen a jackal wallbanging in the 2463 hrs in the game bc by the time you see the ping a half decent player should have moved at least 1m away from it
jackal isnt op at all, the amount of pings he puts out are low, he may be annoying but there is only a 1/5 chance of you being the one getting tracked
unless the enemy team is a coordinated 5 stack running lion, dokki and blitz combo to really hunt you down, but even then just dont deep roam, lurk with a way back into site or bait them into rushing you while a teammate covers you

@@azazelraidz9539 people like are the reason global abilities were introduced XD

@@azazelraidz9539 people always say how "broken" or "op" jackal is the when in reality he's just a lazy pick for people who can't bother droning. No one EVER complained about Jackal but ever since pick and ban people treat him like the original Lion.

Starting off with “Using a fucking graph to balance your ops is NOT how you should do it”

ok

sure, because they definitely didn’t make private matches and/or the operations for fine-tuning your aim or adaptability.

Apple Tek Support
What do you want as a substitute for “training?”
Please, I’d love to hear what you have in mind.

Apple Tek Support
Well, not a substitute, but a good suggestion. It would be nice if they had the AI actually respond to gunshots or to environmental changes. Sadly, this IS Ubisoft we’re talking about.

siege doesn't seem to really care unless they are punished financially, because honestly if you're a big company and people complain about how your game has 1000+ glitches in it and how it's unplayable but you still have the same revenue stream then why fix the bugs because the bugs that are in the game obviously aren't stopping people from giving money to Ubisoft.

when it came out everyone was super nice and apologized for every little thing... I miss it...

Hayk M. I’m in the same boat but I cannot play with friends anymore because they were toxic to me as well and I blocked them all and I haven’t touched a shooter since and has help out with stuff

@@strwrbttlfrnt same my friend left the rank match and he says I'll be right back and came when the game ended he said is the game still going I said congrats we lost and thanks so much and now he's angry asf with me probably im not gonna play with him.

No That's Wrong!

this is literally bikini bodhi, he is in denial

I played with a lv 200 friend in ranked just for fun and well now all the ranked matches now have 100 or better and idk why

wilbo bikini bodhi is pure unfiltered organic soy

I got thru this like once a month

Alex Shvartz facts

You said man

yep, not everything is perfect, there will always be positive and negative

Its VARY unique

There is no game that is PERFECT just like a human
Its impossible

I mean the tf2 consists of like 5 guys.

siege isnt 12 years old and the developer isnt one of the slowest and smallest companies. valve has like 300 employees thats pathetic numbers for a triple a game developer

@@paltysork2412 that's valve's trade, they're really good at what they do like managing steam. Just takes them ages

@@deezboyeed6764 they can make games like HLA in no time they dont do stuff because the capitalize on new genres and really set the standard for games in that genre.

@@DWG_ im not sure you know how hard it is to make a vr game, whst they pulled off in the time they had was really fucking impressive, its honestly the first vr game that uses vr to its fullest.

Bro when I’m not playing all I wanna do is play it, but when i am playing, I hate it

@@christophersalinas2722 Same. When i watch clips of rainbow six siege, i really want to play it. When i launch it and play a match, I get cancer.

I agree. I've basically never had any experience with game breaking bugs in this game (except the deployable shield and Clash ones, that was a shit show) Yesterday however, my audio was so screwed that I had to restart my game during a ranked match. I couldn't hear footsteps or gunshots that weren't my own. Drone sound was completely muted. Sometimes audio would be completely backwards and up would actually be down and forward would actually be behind me. Getting hit with bullets sounded unusually loud to. It was like a fever dream.

Nicolas Armstrong dame that glitch happens to me all the time and u have to restart siege to fix it it’s annoying asf

Ash’s hitbox is the smallest thing in the game I swear. They either need to make her hitbox bigger or give her a gun with a slower fire rate.

I would also like knifing to be more consistent

Good Boi to be honest I think knifing should be more inconsistent, like Battlefield. There should be melee animations that can be stopped by a teammate shooting the enemy who’s trying to stab you.

yeah, i don't think it's been in the absolute worst state ever, but i think it's obvious to many people we've hit some kind of wall where we can't improve too much more unless we make some drastic changes to how we update the game, etc.

This man did well in algebra two

@@MuchFlight I left seige after year 4 season 3. I could not take the shit reg and ass loads of bugs and balancing problems and want something more straight forward where I dont have to be in elo hell or playing against hackers for weeks upon weeks. Its all downhill. No decent changes and new problems.

I’d say it’s more of a sine graph. I feel as if the game gets a lot better during new season launches but only for a very short period of time, but then it dies quick and rinse and repeat

I genuinely hope that when they start releasing one operator per season they will actually go through with supposed 'core gameplay fixes' and not some dumb crap like taking more maps out of ranked because the bronzes aren't good enough

If they just used TDD they wouldn't have this problem at nearly the same scale. Like on the test servers right now where EVERYTHING broke when a new patch came in. Clearly inadequate testing before deployment

Also as a programmer, working professionally with a large product as a feature developer (working in the development branch), I really doubt this - or at least wouldn't make this odd assumption. Why wouldn't bug fixes applied to the live branch (what most development teams call a release branch) be added to the development branch? This is a really simple process that nearly every development team has to perform. Typically, bugfixes are applied to the development branch and ported back to release branches. Version control tools like GIT make this super easy. You'd have to assume that the developers working on Siege were massively incompetent or completely blind to a fundamental aspect of version control and development workflows for this to be the case. More likely is that these bugs are part of the complicated architecture and logic behind certain components of Siege. For example, if Clash has a state like "shieldDeployed" which blocks another state "canAim" which controls whether she sees her gun raised and can shoot, any bug that incorrectly sets the "shieldDeployed" state could cause the bug where she can shoot even with her shield raised. This is a really simplified, contrived example, but the principal is true in most stateful development environments.
TL;DR This is a really strange and bold assumption that doesn't hold much credibility when considering how most development teams handle version control and development workflow. There are much more likely explanations. To assume Ubisoft is this incompetent is absurd.

Thinking Mammal thanks for your insight, really interesting to see how the programmers see and handle siege.

@@bradleytbarber They don't need to be incompetent, the people managing them just have to be. If you're not given enough time, you're not given enough time and no amount of competence can make a minute last longer. If the chart says releasing 2 ops a season will bring the most money, then the team will have to release 2 ops a season, tech debt or not

@John Doe, Thinking Mammal was talking about the dev's having to be incompetent, not Ubisoft. Ubisoft makes the decisions, bugs are a result of the devs. Jäger 2 speed was needed, his pick rate was the highest in the game. Buck lost frags because he was already very strong. Ying was buffed because she was basically never used in the game. It's all game balancing to make the game better overall. That's Ubi decisions though not devs. I agree with thinking mammal that bugs most likely come from time pressure from ubisoft on the devs, meaning the devs don't have enough time to test everything fully before deployment because they have such a complex architecture. There is no way the devs could be so incompetent that they didn't know how to use GIT. There is no way a game of this scale could be built without GIT. The devs are not incompetent, just short of time.

Yea man I quit the game after I wasn’t able to hit diamond on phantom sight the ddos just basically ruined the fun I have from being competitive

same about leaving for D2 around Ember Rise

I left around ember rise originally because i left for college and my playstation with seige was at home but after i came home i just couldnt enjoy seige the way i used to. It makes me sad because I have amazing memories of grinding ranked with a 5 stack of mates untill 4 in the morning but i just cant enjoy the game any more

I dipped at the beginning of this season because of absolutely braindead teammates. I know that's not the game's fault (could say it's a matchmaking/ranking problem, but I won't place the blame on that). I played all 10 placement matches at the end of Shifting Tides and got Plat for the first time, while solo queuing. I then do the same after a few weeks for this season, and lost about half of my matches. My teammates were absolutely braindead, and it boggles my mind that people this bad get to gold. Once you get low enough into gold, you literally can't rank up solo queuing. It's next to impossible. I just wish their was solo queue for ranked, since I don't have any friends who play Siege.

Idiot on reddit a while ago said in a comment that siege wasn’t that messed up. I said server issues loading times and hit reg were problems. He wrote them off as a one time thing saying the server crashed once and that i don’t know how to aim even though I’ve seen a body shot not register in the heat of the moment. I’ve even seen myself get headshotted but it not registering so I move away

And These are the relationships u will remember forever. Even if its hurts..

better than just being 'meh'

I just started playing again 2 weeks ago and I'm grinding my teeth in my sleep again.........

Yea i stopped playing too about 3 months ago and ive been doing great.

😝

They are also ruining the game more and more

My guy you should play csgo then

#buffblitz

that's what you get for playing blitz

that's what you get for playing blitz

thats what you get for playing blitz you fucking mong

I enjoy how everyone above silver just bullies this kid for using blitz

proof?

@@scorched2738 thousands and thousands of cheaters each day? And ban waves coming once in weeks or months?

Santiago Venegas that’s not proof Corn pop

How does King George even know that? Maybe I haven’t looked hard enough but he just says that shit without proving anything.

I heard that somewhere but I don’t know if that’s true

and other hilarious jokes we can tell ourselves

Impossible

leo mendoza exactly since year 3 the seasonal skins have been ass but instead of making good ones and making siege better they make shit ones and don’t make the game better

Ya they definitely don't want they're game to be good if they don't see this video

They need to postpone new updates and do a full clearout of bugs cos the new ops will probably bring more glitches/bugs

Yeah, same thing with a Echo for me. I flanked a Echo as Amaru, and shkt him qith the Supernova point blank. He turned around and killed me with 50 hp

I headshot a gridlock and she killed me. She was at 25 HP. It's so frustrating.

Bro I dumped half my mag as Ela into a mav and he lived with above 75h

I've been playing since the beginning, imagine how I feel LMAO

Zero X I feel u bro now in days I can shoot a guy all day and the bullets won’t register and he would kill me with a lucky headshot siege is just not the same anymore

bruh

this is the video I wanted to see. Thank you. 1500 hours into siege and i am oficially done.

What's the music at 5:26?

can u link all the background music u used in the video? :V

@@racc5821 I just found out that the one at 5:26 is from halo odst and the title is deference for darkness

The last time I had the amount of fun that you’re taking about was in White Noise tbh.

When a Caveira is waiting on a corner until last minute she starts moving lmao. Last time i got so much fun was in operation grim sky

Last time I had fun was red crow or chimera the zombies added spice and was fun to play with some buddies but now if I play siege I need a 3 stack at least to play casual

Really surprises me that you guys don’t enjoy this game. Maybe I just play a different game mentally. I bought my pc for this game. It does have issues, but I’m hopeful they’ll get better since Ubisoft responded to this.

Im just waiting for Quarantine. The game, obviously.
Haven't had fun with siege in a year or even longer and I've pretty much played since release.

Not really. the NA PL wanted to move to Las Vegas and go offline and they were going to have 10 spots available for each team to compete in. Then EG and LG suddenly dropped out of the game and took their whole rosters with them. I am not going to list who's to blame but in all seriousness, that whole situation is just a clusterfuck

EG and LG as orgs fucked everything up and they could have allowed their players to stay in the league and get new orgs - they failed to do that. Ubi were willies but you can't blame them completely else all the other teams who have transitioned fine and not had issues who also praised them for their communication and organisation wouldn't have bothered.

Ubisoft should just stick to Story mode games

1. Hackers, balancing & bugs in Siege
2. Releasing seasons on time and bug free
3. R6 Quarantine expected at some point
4. Worst of all, COVID-19 affecting everything else
This is only some of the shit Ubi has to deal with rn... I'm not surprised that many things fall through the cracks in these times

naw, the thing in siege is all about matching random persons on internet and make them unite against a team of enemies. but if the person you are matched with are just toxic or not well-matched with you, then the blame game begins.

Remember when Buck had grenades? *sniff, sniff

@@kalebbruwer :(

Play another game

But late here but this story is scarily similar to mine. I fell in love with this game back in year 1 operation Dustline. I loved every single night playing this game with my friends getting those heart pounding clutches and dragging my way to the too of the scoreboard. But it was around late operation health - Blood Orchid I really stopped playing because I couldn't take the amount of stress from the questionable decisions it wouldn't be until months of on and off playing until Chimera where I was about to quit siege indefinitely. That's when Parabellum saved the game for me. I still believe it's the best expansion siege has had to this day. I would play the game regularly again all because of Alibi's addicting and (at the time) very 3 dimensional gameplay. But over the seasons my fatigue of playing this game has settled in again. I've been playing on and off with friends since Phantom Sight until now. The legacy gamemode brought me back for so many matches on the first few days of it's release and when this event is gone I fear I might go back to how I treated the game before back in blood Orchid to the point of even quitting year 6. But part of me doesn't want to let go not just for the future updates to hopefully try bring back the magic that old siege captured. But for the many friends and beautiful memories this game has given me. I may not love siege anymore but I'm thankful for all it's given me including the old dev team the guys who built this game up to where it is now..

@@Spectre32 looks like we’re in the same boat. When I heard about legacy mode I freaked out. It’s so good to play classic house and Hereford again, and it feels so wrong and so right to use Acog on Ash, Jaeger and Bandit again. Would be nice to have some more of the older maps, more ACOGs on operators, and older versions of operator gadgets, but maybe that’ll come in the future.
I’ve found that the best way to enjoy this game is to play it every other day, so that gameplay doesn’t get too stale. Also, not playing for too long helps to not induce rage.
I’ve kind of come to terms now that Siege isn’t what it was anymore, but hopefully legacy can fill part of that void. The game is still fun to play, at least in its current form, and I can enjoy playing it both really casually and really tactically, be it against randoms or friends.
Thinking about it, a lot of games have changed drastically over time. GTA V has changed massively from what it was in 2013, and Call of Duty as a franchise has come a long way, with both ups and downs.
As I said earlier, I find that playing this game not as often makes it more enjoyable to me, but I completely understand that there are people who still love this game and play it daily. And to those people, I respect that.
The only real issue I have with the game is the community. Still as bad 5 years later as it was in 2015. But oh well, what can you do?

@@meadester Yeah I mainly play it with friends now to play casually and have a laugh and that's the only way I can truly play this game now. Maybe one day there will be a few patches to come our way that will motivate and bring old players back to the game. The same players that had some part in building this game to where it is today. And as for the community don't get me started I could go on and on forever about how bad the community can be. But with the comes the bad but with how much this game has given me I can tolerate it.

@@Spectre32 yeah I hope so. Oh well, we’ll just have to wait and see I suppose. It’d be great to be able to get back into the game fully again. Anyway, have a good one man. Nice to know I’m not alone in this.

@@meadester You too man was surprised to find an actual comment with heart instead of some generic copy and pasted garbage. All the best man!

Thanks for the suggestion

😂😂😂😂😂

What song is that in the outro

Aathityaa Swaminathan that’s the jjba golden wind theme

I prefer starting at 20:28

Ya see, Im unranked, and I always get paired with Ranked sweats. I refuse to play Ranked as its terrible

Unranked is a lot better than casual when it comes to that

I agree bro , I have a urge to play ranked a lot but I dont want to to just have frustration and I get ddosed a lot

True.

agree

Someone finally said it geez

Tbh I just want Vegas 3 as that’s what I grew up with

you just get vote kicked on console if you are bad and playing casual :)

@@zeke9185
They quite literally kick you for now reason half the time. I get kicked when loading into games. My favorite is when you drone to find enemies while your team rushes in and gets wrecked, they kick you fornplaying smart

Cameron-88 bruh i’m literally just saying to play unranked, it’s basically ranked with no mmr and you can’t get kicked

@@zeke9185 no you didn't you said people get votekicked for being bad, that has nothing to do with unranked

the amount of times I've had to say "What?!" after a headshot didn't register is just astounding

it takes some balls to go against Bikinibodhi's hypocrisy, especially as a 50k subbed channel. Must respect this guy.

I cant stand him he thinks siege is flawless

@@kap9619 wait siege has issues?!?!?! I thought sound was supposed to be confusing and illogical

He's just a fanboy tbh

@@JustSomeRandomBurger he's sucking off Ubi cuz they bring him to events and shit. If he gets critical, well he'll get blacklisted

Me too bro

I wish I, a PS4 player who plays in diamond and champ elo, had the luxury of complaining about people who used controllers. I will never understand complaining about Scufs and Strike Packs. At least they’re using a controller and not MnK. Consider yourself lucky

Dye R6 we have MnK as well, you can’t push past gold 3 without running into a heavy amount, and if your on a normal none cheating controller you can forget about plat or above

Dye R6 they do tho

999killshot99 I’ve been plat 1 on Xbox since blood orchid but have never hit diamond. I get abused by MnK once I’m about 2-3 games off every time. I’m using a normal controller btw

@KingtoaGod Bruh I'm hardstuck g1 on usE servers my kd on there is a 1.0 and on sweaty asia is a .7 cos I threw to Copper

Any exemple?

Muff1nB0y remember back when there was a problem with maestro hip fire bc people used to lean and hip fire on pc but on console it was harder and not many people did it then the other time when they changed the ranking systems on siege bc of smurfs but consoles wasn’t having any problems bc they still was facing the same people but it was only for pc

@@RMoney65 Yes I remember now. Thanks for you answer 👍

Depressed-Table bruh consoles is worst for the smurf you can create an unlimited number of smurf for free

That happened with ying nerf

What

Won't be anything to complain about if it works properly.

He was never funny

bikini became an ego maniac after he gained some level of popularity, he simply can not accept when he is wrong or any sort of opinion that doesnt match his own any more

as someone who used to play from launch to about white noise, the constant money grubbing is soooooo annoying. like heres a yearly pass for operators, and packs for skins, and packs for guns and micros and all this useless limited time cosmetic shit. The game is constanty asking for money, especially the new opertors. i didnt buy the year 1 and 2 operators until year 3 when they went on sale because i already gave you $60 bucks for the game. ill sometime look back to Seige and say "that new operator looks cool, to bad they want real money/ a ludicous 26, 000 renown" and go play something else.

There is no pay wall lol. You are complaining about shit that doesn't even exist.

Same such a shame i spent so much money that game over 4 years and more

Old Devs better Devs

It could be worse I preordered that shit fest on my birthday before it came out. Owned it for 5 years have 1800 hours and I fucking hate that game. Hate how it’s at the top of my steam most played.

Same here man. This game kinda sucks now.

I miss smokes impacts :(

Same here.
The only reason why i keep playing Siege is a team that im playing for, without it, for much that i love this game, i problably gone for a while until the game is more or less fixed.

1,171hrs in and plat 1 once. I had a lot of fun with the game but for a year now the shooting is just so unfair. Dont wanna cry or smthing like that but I didnt really gave anything on cheater problems or other bugs but actually killing someone feels so unsatisfying due to that plain unconsistency of the hit-regestration. If you've played siege for more then 10hrs you have noticed that sometimes headshots count if you were just in the near of the target or that you get killed after you went behind cover....etc. when I look at cs go it just feels so damn good to hit any headshots or the recently released valorant or CoD MW which just makes you feel good hitting any of those shots because in rainbow it aint feeling as satisfying to hit a "good" shot ( omitting some super rare flicks or wallbangs )

Just makes me happy, that i stopped playing when they censored the gamechat. I mean if developers release such a piss poor fix, why would you expect them to care for the game afterwards? I'll never get how people are STILL surprised. Like are you just that naive or did you just never played a game with good monetization and value behind it? Of course they are just gonna cash in on the operators and ignore hackers, glitches and balancing.

King George pulled up battle eye packages on stream a season or two ago and there were multiple packages obviously more expensive being a better anti cheat and seige only has the base cheapest package. This is awhile back I don’t know if it’s changed and can’t remember everything specifically but that was the gist of what I remember. That would make since as why cheating and hackers are continuing to grow and nothing is being done about it.

@@jv5tv515 1,500+hrs in and diamond twice. I had a lot of fun with the game but for a year now the shooting is just so unfair. Dont wanna cry or smthing like that but I didnt really gave anything on cheater problems or other bugs but actually killing someone feels so unsatisfying due to that plain unconsistency of the hit-regestration. If you've played siege for more then 10hrs you have noticed that sometimes headshots count if you were just in the near of the target or that you get killed after you went behind cover....etc. when I look at cs go it just feels so damn good to hit any headshots or the recently released valorant or CoD MW which just makes you feel good hitting any of those shots because in rainbow it aint feeling as satisfying to hit a "good" shot ( omitting some super rare flicks or wallbangs )
BASICALLY SAME

It would get boring after a couple months

This is what Operation Health tried to do, course all people want is just content, content, content instead of focus of fixing bugs

That hurt my soul

If that happened to me i would just laugh and have a manic breakdown like walter white. I wouldnt give a shit anymore

Well he should've just been better smh 🙄

Beenis He lost 1000 Elo to hackers ain’t no getting better than that

@@trap4083 oh dang you're right why didnt i think about that

It’s only gotten worse

That’s already announced as coming

@@tylermead6940 replay mode ≠ theatre mode. They have released footage and there is no free camera to be seen

Whats bad now compared to them? I really dont get it as glitches were always present and broken mechanics seemed much worse back then than now

neon This is just an example to answer your question, I’m not interested in the whole toxic arguments but back in Chimera we had things like quick peeking and some people for example Beaulo could do it so fast the hit boxes struggled to keep up with it. Obviously they changed that and it was a big improvement, I’m not trying to have a go and jump on the bandwagon of the siege is shit mentality. I just want to give constructive criticism to the new devs that have joined R6 because frankly they haven’t had enough passion or vision for the siege community and the game as a whole.

Chimera was a horrible season op blitz with the hip fire glitch wallhack lion etc

I think the opposite tbh, that’s when operator design tanked imo. The click one button global abilities started to take over the game. Velvet Shell was the peek of siege for me.

bro wtf? Lion was the worst thing they added into Siege. I still wish Lion could be deleted.

Tizzy. I wouldn’t say Siege is completely ass, but just has a decent amount of problems that’s holding it back from being a great game. I just think “ass” is a too strong of a term.

/Mattie/ /Ice/ until they fix my hit box being left behind when i’m behind a wall the game is ass

Tizzy alright geez nvrmind

/Mattie/ /Ice/ until the devs realize how to balance operators, the game will be ass. The reason why I’m saying balance ops first is that it seems like the bugs will not go away because it seems like every time they fix one bug two more appear...

Youcef Loucif ong it’s like a hydra cut one head off 2 more grow back

and ow font

@Redeem Raven You decided that for all of us?

bruh momentum

@Redeem Raven That's all good man, just learn to word your sentences properly so there's no confusion

oh my god. i do remember that actually. dark times...

on xbox theres a new glitch that if you spin and do 360 in a certain spot in chalet or in clubhouse you can cause frame lag and even freeze the match

@@skizochad bugs in siege will come back to hunt you

You must not like him very much

@@thomaslaverty8965 but there not wrong tho and I accept that,even though he is like my favourite r6 streamer.

I think I'm in love with you. How are you going to take responsibility for this? I didn't ask for this.

yeah, this video made me realize it.

@@Sean-vp5kw I know, I agree that he needs to actually acknowledge the games faults if he wants to actually help. Twas making a joke is all

Ikr unexpected but perfect music for the video

I really cant say that I agree i have played the game since 2017 halloween event and i really love the game but holy jesus it takes a long time for things to get changed look at echo fro example shes not THAT op but the beam she has is one of the dumbest things ever created 200 dmg a second and still not changed? Overwatch has improved but not enough to save it from the hell its in right now.

Your comment is somewhat ambiguous, could you clarify if you are talking about ow or r6?

catroarrr Echo’s a guy lol

@@michaeljfox2684 No shes not.......

@@silphonym Overwatch

He posted a video giving his thoughts.
tl:dr is
he agrees with #savesiege and he just wants people to be constructive instead of just blindly shitting on siege
he thinks drawing comparisons to other games doesn't make too much sense because siege is too complex
He just commented on some other things that he disagrees and agrees with from this video.

Because of course, bikini body knows everything

he really doesn't on much stuff though outside of being a long term player.
Like, mod support for Siege, really ?
Or that a Siege 2 proposed fix at the end, he thinks that all the issues lay on "bad engine" when it really is not the case at all.

Rodd Boward most of the issues are caused by the bad engine though. Something else always breaks when there’s a change. The rest of the issues seem to be poor management/being cheap

​@@2phonebabykeem913 You can say that for every game, engines are what make the game run, so every bug is technically related to them but it doesnt mean much when changing it wouldn't improve things.
Though their management is probably not as good as it should be, but that is the case with many big game dev companies, though Ubi has said and moved towards a change, so we can only hope.

Bullwon look at CS,. All maps have been changed and updated since launch. They haven’t added much at all in terms of maps

of all the maps we've gotten only two seem to actually be liked.

@@mitchellvetter7719
Yeah but CS changes have been well made and can be changed over time and ALL the maps are playable/in rotation. With Siege we keep losing maps in the playlist and some maps that meet a rework just turn out worse than before (Hereford Base is one of those). I feel the casual playlist should have some of the old trashy maps in rotation (Favela, Yacht, Tower, etc) and have a map voting system in the lobby. This game doesn't even have replays, spectating, and I swear we left Ranked Beta just last year.

@@TheXenoxen Good point I agree abt casual maps should be the old ones. and at least we will be getting a replay system eventually these next seasons. Map voting would be dope

Devs have told that it is a limitation by with the game engine.

On console you just get dossed and I understand that’s out of ubisofts reach but still

Honestly it's just cuz console wasnt build for seige and seige should just be a PC exclusive. I have so many hit box problems and laggy enemy's it makes the game unbearable

@@eliasharrison4830 I have to disagree with you on this one. I have been playing siege for a while now, both for fun and in very high ranks competitively. There are issues, but 90% of them don't even appear on console. Every bug that there is on console, is on PC too, but on PC they have to deal with hackers as well. So playing Siege on console is a much greater experience , looking at the bugs, glitches and hacks at least. Whereas DDOSing was an issue, since they fixed it I have never had that again. So from my point of view, it is great.

potato potatoes yeah I play on both and hackers are definitely not a problem on console but sometimes I still get ddosed even after they “fixed” it but at least it is less now

@@xxmagfracerxx4697 bruh i was ddossed like last week. i love siege. but it tilts the ever living fuck out of me

that right there is the kind of shit I try often when playing siege, like shooting at someone controlled and burst fire while the enemy just shoot full power but gets a lucky headshot

*instant no homo here*

Everybody gangsta until Maytums hits the UwU

Ew

@@welcome2wyzard duscuted

Why can't I remember the song please help

@@mchazzlejazzle i believe it's from "to the moon" game

@@gianmarcobruse8319 do you know which one in particular?

The songs from halo 3: odst

@@gianmarcobruse8319 it's "deference for darkness" from halo 3 odst you uncultured swine

Weird, I feel the same way but reversed as in I’d rage at overwatch in like 2 matches while in siege I play for hours. Maybe that’s cuz I play Xbox and don’t see cheaters

that's because the games play differently. one death during an overwatch round wont compromise the match; thermite dying to a spawnpeek is a different deal altogether

oh god just go see the D2 subreddit, that place is going to instill a coup d'etat on Bungie

Smurfs are why I don't think the playerbase is actually growing.