Getting Dressed - Royal Tudors | National Museums Liverpool

I got chills, kudos to the writer

Final Boss.

She found herself in some hot water,and could have ended up like Anne Boleyn and Katherine Howard,but she kept her wits about her and survived. Good on her! Some people would have freaked out In that situation.

I think her being the first woman in England to publish an original book under her own name is her greatest accomplishment.

@@leocornio that and she survived

je suis toujours admirative devant ces costumes d’une autre époque .. ça me transporte dans une autre dimension .. la mode est si laide aujourd’hui..

Especially since paintings were often done in a way that represents a certain aesthetic of the time rather than actually depicting a likeness, so most of the portraits of a certain period won't really look that much like their subjects.

@@michelechartier6322 Мода - действительно уродливое проявление жадности некой части общества! Ведь была традиционная народная одежда! Где она? По поводу же данного ролика, то это период времени несчастных женщин не имеющих возможность даже одеться самостоятельно! Ужасно!

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​@@michelechartier6322 mais plus pratique pour être honnête

Just wondering how to go to toilet with it

@@leenswatt2 Since there wasn't "underwear" in the modern sense, most of the time all one had to do was spread your legs a bit and stand somewhere no one would notice.

As for the sewing...it wouldn't be all that difficult. I sew. I'm somewhat new to it, but I finished stitching a corset today. Once a pattern is properly drafted, the stitching is quite easy. Time consuming, but this dress has fewer seams than a victorian gown. I can finish a hand sewn eyelet in about 10 minutes. A skilled seamstress might be faster.

I don't mean it in an offensive way but if you compare the work with clothes worn in the Eastern parts of the world, India, China, Middle East, you would realize that it's underwhelming craftsmanship.

و أهم شيء ساعات العمل

I guess both the old European and Muslim countries have the same sexist way of controlling women's hair.

Why was the hair covered?

@@theneutral3192 Modesty. Adult women covered their hair. Prostitutes left their hair uncovered. Once a girl was grown up, she began to cover her hair.

@@theneutral3192 Modesty, for one. And for another, women were expected to have long hair but I can honestly say that as someone who has long hair, it's a pain to keep it out of your face unless you have it pulled at least halfway back. Lastly, wash day. It's a once a week, all day event for me, and that's with access to a modern shower, shampoo, and a blow dryer should I chose to use one (I usually don't). Hair was washed less often back then, but there are lots of videos explaining how it was still kept clean. Frequent brushing and combing with natural materials like wood or boar bristles, for one, and for another....linen caps. Protects your hair from daily dirt and debris, as well as being a natural fiber that absorbs oil.

@@theneutral3192 Tudor society was deeply religious, and followed the biblical rules that women's hair must be covered for modesty reasons, with only "indecent" women like prostitutes and beggars not covering up. These rules were also followed in the medieval period, but largely fell out of fashion at the end of the 1500's, probably at least partially due to Elizabeth I's fashion choices. Working women were still expected to wear bonnets over their hair all the way up until the late 1800's, but they didn't need to hide the entirety of their hair, unlike in earlier history.

Considering she died in childbirth only 20 months after Henry died, she didn't really have much of a reward.

@@k.s.k.7721 Terribly sad ending for her after having endured Husband No 4’s antics. Thomas Seymour was a poor choice.

@@collnss
It is sad, but she’d wanted to marry him before she caught Henry’s eye- one can only wonder if their story would have been happier, had they married at this earlier time...

@@OcarinaSapphr- A good point. But Seymour was always a loose cannon. I think he loved her as much as possible for him, but he loved power more. The closer to the Crown the better. When Catherine wasn’t appointed Protector to young Edward he behaved recklessly with Elizabeth. After Catherine died he became more volatile which cost him his head over a year later. Catherine loved him dearly and I think she would have been content living a quiet life with him and their daughter. Sad we don’t know what happened to the little girl but all indications are she died at the age of two or three.

@@collnss
Reading the bit I have about his life, I wonder what made him like this?
Was it really just the rivalry with his brother - the choices he made with Edward & Elizabeth appear bordering on the crazy- was it purely desperation, in the end?
How did he expect to justify it, had he managed (by some miracle) to be successful?

I would nevvvvvvvvvver stop princess spinning. My man is gonna have to take me away cause I will act like a Disney princess everywhere if I got to wear a Similar dress in any shape or form

I do not. It takes damn long time to get dressed, and does not look comfortable to me at all. Imagine you want to lie on a coach for a short nap during the day.

Pas du tout ! Horriblement long pour s'habiller, il faut une demi journée et ça doit être lourd à porter. Je m'imagine que pour aller aux WC c'était mission impossible ! Je parie qu' elle se urinait dessus😆

@@enki6578 entièrement d'accord!

Lord no! All those pins, I'd be so nervous. Which isn't to say this isn't exquisite

My thoughts exactly!

Yes, indeed but they had nothing to do and had maids 😂

I am just thinking. How awkward going to the loo must have been. 😂

@@FoxyFoxlyn not really! they simply lifted the skirts a bit, slid a chamber pot beneath them, and squatted!

@@jessmacdd I know. I was being facetious. 😂

That's honestly so interesting ! How did you know? If it isn't too personal? I'm sorry if my english isn't that good aha

@@friend8620 not at all!! I’ve been doing genealogy research for a few years now, and looking into my maternal grandmother’s father, I was able to track back a couple generations via birth and census records on Ancestry, and honestly, one I hit nobility everything sort of filled itself in! They like to keep good records so they did most of the work for me thankfully lol

@@roet8792 That's so cool! I'll have To look into my ancestry some times then ahah

Hello cousin :) Catherine is my aunt also on my dad's side of the family. On my mom's maternal side- HenryVIII's sister, Margaret, is my 24th great grandmother.

Hello cousin :) Catherine is my aunt also on my dad's side of the family. On my mom's maternal side- HenryVIII's sister, Margaret, is my 24th great grandmother.

i mean koreans queen-
hahhaha

@@xlott3667 both deal with layering techniques, including Chinese and japanese historical fashion as well. It's the case for most royal pieces around the world.

@@anusree2632 uhmmmm indian and arabian queens are almost naked so... 🤔

@@xlott3667 korean queens if kdramas are accurate was more elegant and kinda practical than western clothing

​​​​@@Agent-ie3uv, no. Not really. Queens in India in various states had variety of outfits-- all different from the other. Rather than stitched layers of clothes, Indian queens had more of various draped fabrics, like saree or, a dupatta .
These fabrics had very different drapes, that were as good as stitched clothes and could emulate several articles of clothing like blouses, a makeshift trousers/palazzos for mobility and so on.
Please do not go by westernized versions of traditional Indian/Other South Asian clothing for authenticity issues. Good day❤❤

I did too! Especially when it became progressively obvious this is not something she could ever remove without help

I would not mind in the winter but the summer…

The heat must have been awful, but great in the winter with all those layers

@@HawkinaBox the fabrics were much thinner then than they are now. It would have been warm, but not necessarily hot.

The weather was cooler back then than it is now as they were in the Little Ice Age. The Thames would even freeze over in winter.

True

she reminds me so much of Emilia Clarke, the actress of Daenerys. The eyebrows and hair. She's so beautiful!

Whoisshe

And here I thought she's more like Emily Blunt in the thumbnail.

Couldn't agree more!!!

Nice beahy great thank you

And unbearably uncomfortable.

@@chickenlover657 sûr on avait pas encore inventé le jean et les baskets .. c’est confortable mis ça manque d’élégance ..

@@chickenlover657 And time-consuming, and unbelievably boring

@@michelechartier6322 Well I don't know - I think jeans and sneakers can be elegant depending on how you wear them. And you have to wear them with an 'air' . N'est-ce pas?

Головной убор у дам не очень красив, он не всем был к лицу. Часто-он напоминал домик для птиц в котором сидит лицо дамы

Hope she has a good blatter

Many centuries later, maids and working women wore similar false sleeves to protect the dress from truly nasty jobs like fettling the cookstove or beating the carpets. Ruth Goodman wears such practical sleeves while doing the washing in Victorian Farm (krplus.net/bidio/YMqommB1qK2ufWk).

It is actually a lot more comfortable than it looks, and much heavier to hold up than to wear. I have worn similar many times in Historical Re-enactments. Those, if well done, have to be accurate in many ways. The best material for the job is upholstery fabric for the outer dress and sleeves. If you think the pins look scary, you should see the ones used for early medieval cloaks. they are about six inches long!

It would have been damp and cold, living in those castle

During the Medieval - Tudor times, there was a mini ice age, so clothing would usually have multiple layers to keep the person warm.

Even in the summer, they were fine. They just word thinner fabrics.

@@laliloon excellently put! Thank you

Also we underestimate how much better at breathing natural fabrics were - linen is really good at wicking away sweat and keeping you cool. I do re-enactments and was very surprised how comfortable a full length wool kirtle is even in July/August! Things like fur to stay warm we’re needed for the aristocrats who were just sat around not moving, because buildings weren’t as well insulated as these days (and obvs no central heating!)

Chicken and the egg. The heavy fabrics and rediculous proportions would be hard without maids, but without those, the maids wouldn’t be needed since it’s perfectly possible to dress oneself in this (although the shoes would need to precede the rigid kirdle).

Like, they rolled up her sleeves to put more sleeves on top of her sleeves! Lol

This was common before the industrial revolution because it cut down on laundry which cut down on wear and tear. Also, being able to interchange accessories such as sleeves, allowed people to keep up with fashion and seasons without needing a whole new dress (which was good since the fabric of these dresses were the most expensive part).

Забавно, если потомки будут говорить так и про наше время.)

И не дай бог захочешь в туалет...

@@FAN-lm2qv я тоже об этом подумала:)))))

Если так собираться, значит, есть столько денег, чтобы вместо работы после сборов идти на прогулку по парку. Что она и делала)

А я боюсь даже предположить, как они в туалет ходили!?

@@lenasajenina6497 юбки задирали и садились на специальное приспособление.Есть видео.

Hello Amanda

In every culture, the upper classes always had the best clothing... the lower classes never represented what was considered fashionable.

@@dayangmarikit6860 i don't care not fashionable or fashionable. Only western historical traditional clothes were so big and had many layers. But only upper class clothes had enormous layers and sometimes there also had layer of big rings. That's why I wanna know how they created and wore. So, this video gave me one of the knowledge that I need.

@@jojomorgan And what rings are you yapping about?

@@jojomorgan krplus.net/bidio/oLmElpyFc4Gve3I

Really? I'm surprised. He literally created the Anglican church after breaking away from Roman Catholicism.
Further, many believe he had a brain injury from his jousting injury (he was an athlete in his younger days) that fueled his erratic behavior later in life. Finally...he didn't kill all of his wives. He killed two wives, and shame on him, but let's be accurate with the facts.

@@sitcomchristian6886 yes but when most think henry viii, they think of the wife beheading, the jousting incident isn’t all that known amount the public (that i know of) and the church was because of anne boleyn

@@sitcomchristian6886 to be fair, he broke from Catholicism because they wouldn’t let him get divorced and marry another wife…

Think you need to do some reading on history.

He destroyed all our beautiful monasteries as the pope wouldn’t agree to him divorcing Anne Boleyn. There’s ruins of them everywhere. He was a tyrant

Nah they were fine under all those layers since during the 1500’s, there was something called “The Little Ice-age” going on. World wide cooling due to frequent volcanic activity.

Also, when it was cold they wore capes over their chests. And later it became common to tuck fabric around one’s neck into one’s front to cover up.

Неудивительно, во всех этих жёстких конструкциях, держащихся на булавках и завязках, страшно сделать резкое движение - можно часть туалета потерять, а то и в одной рубашке остаться))

Русские императоры и их придворные одевались на много шикарнее , красивее. Зря только, что народ потом всю эту красоту и величие уничтожил себе же во вред.

Dressing was beautiful thts why women were also looked beautiful...Now see womens dressing reveals every thing...

@@nikcosplay they are portraying Katherine Parr in the video

@@bcpedits Omg I heard wrong! Thank you for correcting me!

@@nikcosplay of course!! they did mention catherine of aragon also in the video so i was confused too at first hahaha

There's debate about that - it's probable Mary Tudor (sister of Henry VIII) actually popularized them first after she returned to England as dowager Queen of France

@@deek3183 I can kinda see where that would be coming from.

There's a very good video on the topic by priorattire. But the gist of it was there was no underwear other than the smock so you don't have to take anything off, just get a chamber pot under there

They lifted their skirts and were good to go haha. They didn't have panties/briefs back then. In addition to chamber pots, women sometimes had special contraptions that looked like gravy boats which they would use if they weren't close to a chamberpot. There is a good documentary on hygiene at Versailles which covers that topic well.

agreed

Hi friends, I might be a little late and you might have already found the channel, but you might want to look up Crowseye productions! They made this video, you will find many videos like this on their channel :)

Knickers or bloomers weren't a thing, so it was relatively easy with assistance from ladies in waiting. Royal women would use a commode. A padded box, or stool, containing a chamber pot.

I'd guess it's because pins were easiest for that flat-fronted silhouette. They add pretty much no addional bulk (unlike buttons or buckles) and were easy enough to make (unlike zippers or velcro, which are commonly used on tight clothing today).

pins were flat- any closures would bunch up or be visible. lacing was seen as something to be hidden, so they ould avoid it being seen. these are also royal clothes- the average woman would only use a few pins where necessary- to keep her apron on, or to pin a skirt in place. pins didn't stab, as there were a lot of layers in between the pin and the body, and when there weren't they were placed carefully. pins stop being used as much to secure clothing as clothing styles and manufacturing methods changed, but they were used mostly by the rich or powerful

It would be interesting to see a video that's just the history of closures. Engineering a good closure is surprisingly challenging; pins were a solution dating from prehistory to pretty much the present. The short answer is basically just that nobody had come up with a better closure by this point. The 20th Century would finally offer a few better options, in the form of blind zippers, snaps, and hook-and-loop closures. But at this point not even the modern button had been invented yet. It would take several remarkable flashes of inspiration to get there.
Side-note: if you've heard of "pin money", it comes from the practice of sending your offspring away to boarding school and making sure to send them with enough money to buy pins to hold their clothes together. It's basically an allowance.

@@calliarcale the only thing that triggers me about pins is that they ruin the fabric. When I first heard the Romans would just wear a whole pieces of fabrics and just stick them together with pins, my first reaction was "How long before it's full of holes?"

@@nunyabiznes33 its a pin. It doesn’t leave holes that ruin the fabric

Yes, I think the current styles don't value elegance and class as much as they used to.

Honestly no, the fashion of this time period although extremely beautiful it was a huge sign and comparison of wealth. Although our fashion now is more “mainstream” you also gotta remember that in this time period this fashion style would’ve also been considered “mainstream”
There’s the fact that now although clothes aren’t a million layers and more regal you can still wear this type of fashion if it was something you really wanted to do, the only difference is you wouldn’t have to be a royal or someone from an extremely rich background to do so.

@@Spoopybat ig if u couldn't afford it you wore a cheaper rendition of the mainstream glamour (as we do still in some ways). But, I guess we'll know in a decades time as you can see the transition from 2000s to 2010s. I wonder what 2020s defining fashion feature is?

I do think we have lost some good practices by shortening and cheapening clothes. The way women especially used to have just one specific dress for an occasion, it makes sense because of all the layers underneath, and I feel like we now wear through our stuff a LOT faster because we don’t invest in the right kind or enough of under layers to protect it.

I’d rather be comfortable.

They were undergoing an ice age at the time

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Remember, the Queen's ladies were her trusted friends. This was probably a good opportunity for a gossip session.