Super Smash Bros. Ultimate World Championship 2019 3v3 Finals

We don’t deserve him, he’s too wholesome for this world.

Sakurai is like the Stan Lee of Marvel... 🥺

Good expect for offline single player

Even single player was good

@@scro910 Checks out

Oh no, are peoples first impression of him not good?

@@Rustyhound-Cartoons he seemed very nervous and he was more conventional than Reggie. He's not bad but people have huge expectations from him, so some were disappointed

@@stratoz6272 That's a shame. Anyone to take over for Reggie would probably be in a difficult spot though to be fair

Rustyhound just look on his Twitter. People have already welcomed him as their new overlord of Nintendo.

I mean it’s his first E3 he wasn’t bad for his E3

Exactly! Sakurai always uses symbolism like that to hint at certain things.

Also, guess when it turns into a fake Smash Ball.....
Right before he starts talking about the DLC CHARACTER ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!

Chase McCrary I can just feel the sarcasm coming out of this lol

@UBF YES

Lol XD!

XD

That doesnt mean anything tho lmao

Europe should be a country

@@comradeuro4255 lol

is 3 person vs 3 person indeed

My main is mii gunner

Mii is good bruh

@@ATLTraveler results dont show it

same

my main is myself

Bernardo Gonzalez lol

What do you mean fake smash ball?

@@DuelingCharisma distraction item?

@jorge guzman it is not like those tshirts are expensive. and those members of team eu must have won a few competitions with some money.

Yeah your right! Damn... The EU shirt is so ugly and lazy by comparison.

I assume Nintendo game them the outfits instead of making their own

@jorge guzman @stebopign Yes i guess,I live in belgium (in eu) and the e-sport isn't really as developed and popular as it is in japan or Usa

Less is more

Derek Gill they probably didn’t notice that it was a stitch face since he threw it right away

Jason Denne well in that case they’re just bad commentators... a lot of the stuff they said was just either lame, wrong, or poorly focused. “The mii sword fighter is unique because it controls the edges of the stage” that’s literally every sword fighter tho

Derek Gill no not really, in causal play, a lot more things are going on. Items, bombs, final smashes, daybreak’s, etc. when something that small and rare happens, it’s a lot harder to notice. I didn’t notice either (no, I’m not a causal fan, I love competitive play).

Derek Gill take it with a grain of salt cause nintendo hired them to commentate this “ competitive event”. They probably told them to focus more on plays with items or smash balls instead of actual gameplay. Keep in mind that a lot of the audience were probably causal players. The audience probably didn’t know who these people were or what plays they were making. The commentators were probably told to keep it at their place so they could understand.

@Derek Gill it's a lot higher than 0.0000449% chance. It's about 0.4% chance for a bomb, and 1.8% chance for a stitch face. So the chance is actually about 0.007%. Still a really low chance, just not as low as you said.

Lucas Argandoña Indeed

It's so dope to see someone going mad lad with Pit. We don't get enough Pit mains in America.

Indeed... but still that other guy had a jump I don't see why he Up-B'd..

Meh, not a very impressive zero to death

@@doc8125 ok, mister
good-at-videogames

I need a Bowser shirt 🤔

Bowser Jr is happy 😂

Al chile

Le fishe

Da rock

De boom

le chonk

Baby steps Daniel, baby steps. : )

lol

real competitive rules suck tbh

@@louisst-amand9207 how.

I find That Real competitive takes more skill

Also, please give us a tournament without items pls.

Idk how they got him to agree to do this tournament lol

@@WypsotorNyloff I definitely would've gone when I was 15. How cool would that be?

@@septimus5202 True but I wouldn't want to risk getting Gust Bellowed monkaS

@@WypsotorNyloff He did decent in JP qualifiers I guess, at least it wasnt ANZ

Hode up*

HE RETIRED?!!!!😳😲

@@sakura_pop_soda1627 bro he retired so long ago

@@ENTZY. AWWWW!!!!!! TwT

Makes you wonder about the whole "rules are meant to be broken" thing.

Ootl what rules were changed?

SMegasM Items on, Smash Meter on, timed instead of stock

@@SMegasM they added items

SMegasM Items are like kryptonite for smash fans.

Team Japan is too OP they need to be nerfed hopefully in the next patch update

Zackray carrying the country when shuton isn't here

@@TinyLordCthulhu Switch regions men, many players have been doing that since birth to get a stat boost.

How about this instead *becomes Bowser and burns the guy*

Why would you ask that here of all places? I'm not saying I wouldnt' like Mother 3, but this is a smash bros tournament lol. We already know they don't listen to the comments here because they still have items on.

@@septimus5202 r/woooosh

@@WypsotorNyloff r/ihavereddittoo

@@septimus5202 ok, no woosh

They're all legal with Battlefield and Omega forms

@@vr8652 Yes, but omega/battlefield forms were not used here, along with the presence of stage transformations.

@@Magmagan so sad that they don't allow all those possible stages with the same structures be banned

It is kind a thing in competetive already, it is called crew battle and is usually 5v5

doc8125, crew battles are traditionally 10v10 but can be modified for any number of players.

I'm just as triggered, friend.

WHAAATTTT??

IN A ROW!!!

H threw them in the right direction at least.

Actually the bomb was good but Kuro got a nice block with the z grab

Septimusv

That was a while ago, yeah

It’s been exactly a decade dude..

It's fine for a World Cup(which let's face it, that's what this was), but it had a distinct amount of top player representation missing, don't tell me a team with 3 of MKLeo, Samsora, Dabuz, Ally, Marss, VoiD, NAKAT, and Tweek wouldn't have beaten this Team Japan
NA vs Japan at Frostbite 2019 would have been a fair comparison of the two regions(NA 8-10 JP-Japan wins with 5 stocks), but if EU won, there would have been much objection to the item format screwing a top player like Zackray like what happened to Ken in 2008

InsertColorHereHawk, why Nakat? He seems like an odd one out there.

@@biffyguybiffy6292 I was giving a SnS 5 Top 8 with Tweek in for Wizzy

This is more fun to watch. The randomness is what makes it fun. Competitive smash is not as fun to watch, but still tense. I guess I prefer fun rules to 'fair' rules.

@@TexelGuy The June Open will feature a more restricted item list, but I find that getting unlucky because a bomb spawned into an attack you were charging to not be fun to watch and incredibly deflating

c o n g r a t u l a t i o n s

*clink*

A moderfukin reggie reference

No, Sakurai intentionally made the game when returning to it's competitive roots as well as improving rules that endorse competition. The marketing also displayed this with the addition of showing these features in the Directs and Sakurai stating that there will be invitational competitions that invited the best competitive Smash 4 player, Zero. Nintendo is competitive atleast when it comes to Smash

@@vr8652 So the World Championship Final(The SSBU World Ch'ship is a World Cup) was NA-NE(Samsora, Nairo, and Dabuz) with a sub from NA-SW(MKLeo) vs JP(Zackray, Abadango, Shuton) with a sub(Tea)
Oh wait, the top players weren't at this tournament, because Australia/New Zealand had their finals on the same day as one of their major regionals(EG7) North America got nobody relevant to enter, and top Canadians were screwed because a National was on the same day as the Finals(B4BC), Japan got top players, and Europe had decent players

@@insertcolorherehawk3761 😴😴😴😴
Oh I'm sorry what did I miss?

@@insertcolorherehawk3761 Excuse me Light and RobinGG are top EU players, they are not decent THEY ARE GOOD. Get your facts straight sir.

@@vDREEGONv Top players in EU, but I wouldn't say that was the best possible team the selectors could have chosen if given the choice, heck other top Germans got themselves knocked out by bad item calls and the best European player didn't make it

Yes, but ask CPU(2008 Evolution Brawl Champion) about how much they covered his weaknesses and how much he didn't deserve it, he would go on to win no other relevant event ever again, and CPU himself admitted to being lucky with items
What people want is a single Nintendo run event where they do the traditional community rules with a decent major pot(250k or something), do 1-2 of the tournaments the way they want to do it, and one Professional Smash Cup Final with 32 of the world's top players

@@vDREEGONv You're overlooking the possibility that Nintendo also does marketing with this tournament. The usual competitive ruleset (to be specific: the no item clause) can only ever showcase so much of the game, and therefore doesn't suit the needs here.
Another reminder: the competitive community is before anything else a subset of the community, and it should accept they are not alone.
Sorry, but this debate is far from over.

This isn't even the first time Nintendo has done this. And I think there is plenty of reason to complain. Items aren't bad in and of themselves when characters like Peach and R.O.B. can summon them with their specials, but random items spawning creates an element of RNG in an environment that is supposed to reward the player playing better. It's the same reason people hated rage in Smash 4, and that was a mechanic WITHOUT RNG. There's also a huge flaw in your argument about how Nintendo shouldn't be going about with the standard competitive ruleset in that Nintendo will ALWAYS get more exposure than events hosted by fans. This gives off the pretense that this is what competitive smash bros is like, by a company that was so against their games being competitive, they even tried to remove it from EVO with Melee. It gives me no hope that Nintendo will ever understand what makes competitive smash tick.

GiraPrimal, the competitive community is the smash community. There is no other community. You’re going to locals and events and watching tournaments at home or you’re having some friends over every couple weeks and play smash in the background. There isn’t really an in between.

@@Campaign2024 The stream viewership disproves that, more people are willing to watch Major pools than watch NA Open finals, and the WC Finals had less viewership(around half) than SnS top 8s the week before

Games are made for fun. But it is much more interesting and fun for most people when it isn't down to item RNG.

Septimus Sorry, what's RNG stands as?

Then the game doesn't boil down to only skill and more luck (not all)

@@han-wenliu6176 Basically means randomness. Randomness takes away from the "skill" part of the game. Theoretically, a really good player like Zackray could be beaten by some wifi warrior if the latter manages to obtain a gust bellows. This is the type of problem that items-on can cause. Everybody in the real Smash competitive scene agrees that it should be down to skill and that RNG should be eliminated.

@@han-wenliu6176 Random Number Generator. Basically Luck.

not legit, the rules used are a joke

@@makise8348 items on=more fun

@@anthonycomito3072 items on = RNG = less skill

@@azerty9175 then why the team with most skill win?

@@anthonycomito3072 They're all just individually much better players. Zackray is easily top 10 in the world. Barely looked like they were even trying tbh. Zackray barely uses joker lmao

RED ALERT. RED ALERT. CASUAL SPOTTED.

@@WypsotorNyloff have you seen alpharad's casual invitational? It can be fun to watch, but they have such bad awareness of how silly this is, it's taken too seriously

But think of it this way, imagine you get to grand finals of a tournament and then lose because of a poke ball which was some OP Pokémon and it killed you without you being able to do anything about it, would you want items then?

I agree. I just wish there were competitive and casual official Nintendo tournaments.

@@owenlewis9261 as a casual tourney the alpharad one is so much better, because all matches had stocks

Yes... A shame. The Japanese team was certainly superior, but the final stock was theft: daybreaker + giant shroom. Sheer luck win.

It's almost as if this is how normal people play Smash, or something like that.
Also did everyone just forget that items used to be standard in Melee and 64 tournaments?

@@gingerqueer22 "normal people" so what do you call people who don't play with items.
and did you forget that they took them out for a very specific reason?

notice how often items are use (i hate items)

They should

@@Psicokass y

I don't know who that woman was, but her commentary was awful 😂

@Eddie Soto There's no way that's Kels she's a competitive player and this woman specifically says she has no idea what's going on.

why don't pros use little mac?

@@fluteisland he's bad at a high level

@@fluteisland he is bad at all levels (im a mac main]

It wasn't about invitation. This tournament had several qualifying rounds before this.

@@thepiemaster477 ANZ had the finals on the same day as an already scheduled Regional, and American players had more pressing tournaments going into last weekend(SnS 5)

InsertColorHereHawk, sns5 did not conflict with the Nintendo championship finals. The American finals were at pax (I think)

@@biffyguybiffy6292 But SnS 5 was *last week*, and might have not wanted to enter this so soon after, and Light(GER) and Ghost are still entering the The Kid, The GOAT, The Mango, along with some other highly ranked players, and many of Japan's best are there too
The actual conflicting event would have been Battle for BC in Vancouver
I'm actually suprised Zackray didn't enter and get an 11am Sunday pool

MKLeo would have made more money by playing in actual tournaments than playing the items on 7 minutes time mode qualifiers. This is why most of the North American pros didn't enter. Also a Canadian major conflicted with the qualifiers.

ocean eyes

Every competitive smash player : wait something’s gone wrong

They are also crazy buff especially Light.

lol
Light did pick Mario in Squad Strike but he one before using him

Ecl1psed276 theyre also tier whores.

And Japan team picks male characters againts female are the true man of culture as well

I mean, a lot of Ultimate's Top Tier characters are women (or have a female alt).
No joke: Pikachu, Peach, Daisy, Lucina, Inkling, ZSS, Palutena and PT are all either female or have female alts. It makes sense that there'd be a lot of female characters.

We literally just saw joker win two supermajors: Momocon and Smash n Splash. Where have you been?

Wypsotor Nyloff, most likely just a casual viewer and player.

@@WypsotorNyloff I know that. I'm talking about Joker using both Arsene and the All Out Attack Final Smash in this tournament

Only one player here was a top player.

😭😢😢😢😢

I

This wasn’t competitive

Lol, cool

Go to Evo 2019 :)

@@WypsotorNyloff Oof… Low blow to melee haha.

Wypsotor Nyloff, why do you keep plugging Evo? CEO is much closer.

The problem is not that we cannot accept one tornament, but that what is essentially supposed to be the world championship that showes us who is the best does not use a ruleset that allows true skill to be the factor of winning. Also the competetive scene for smash is one of the oldest there is, and the fact that nintendo has not only never showed real support for the smash scene but now they go with their largest tornament ever with a uncompetitive ruleset shows they really don't care about smash's competetive scene. If we could get nintendo's support the esprit would grow to an enormous size, will probably have twice the entrance than any other sport on EVO for example

@@doc8125 Its honestly sad how out of touch nintendo is, even NOW. Sure, they're making some good decisions with patches, but they've also made stupid decisions like nerfing K rool who before nerfs, was mid tier at best. They just look at elite smash. They don't give two dog poops about the tournament scene, especially not top level.

RED ALERT. RED ALERT. CASUAL SPOTTED.

What's the problem of being casual though?

@@lunarnachoz9083 Casuals that I refer to tend to prefer what most would consider bad rules; things that don't prioritize skill as much and lean more towards randomness and unfairness. (such as items and random stages)

Items are fun, but they can absolutely lean a battle towards a win or a loss based on pure luck alone. No competitive game should have a strong luck factor, and Smash with items does.

Ramen. Because this is a tournament. A show of skill. Items require very little skill, trivialize the game, and add an insane amount of luck. That's why. As for it being a Nintendo run event, we've been asking for a Real Nintendo tournament for years, and they keep giving us this. Unskilled players (except Zackray for some reason, he decided to go) in a non competitive luck based "tournament"

cause the items or what

r/beetlejuicing

Cause bobomb to stitch to no comment combo

Items were definitely not on max. They were quite scarce.

@@daniely2125 It's all about Casual not Competitive

KirbyS4983 wasn’t my point but go off

I don't think you've played with items on max.

Eh, fuggit, man. People joining this tournament know what they’re getting themselves into, and it simply promotes a different playstyle. Although rng can reward players, you can be punished for trying to grab items in neutral and having stage control grants you all the items.

It probably means nothing.

Wait is this Bowser guy the new president for America

@@MajoraJeff yes he is the new president

None of them, which is an issue when some items can spawn while you charge an attack

They only disabled pokeballs, masterballs and throphies (thankfully, because throphies are waaay too broken haha)