The Horrors of Becoming Lost

I checked your channel yesterday to see if you posted recently and today you did.
Excellent content.

Isn't this a repost? My phone says this video just came out 2 hours ago?

Just a quick note: the cylinders we use to dive contain air (21% Oxygen) or other gaz mixes, not 100% oxygen. It would be better to say " air cylinder". Thanks for the great video!

@@WhitneyDahlin The lost school boys story was covered in a previous video.

​@@stephenpmurphy591I literally just got to the part of the video where she said that! I can't believe this is the second time this happened! That's why I was so confused I was just coming down here to edit my comment thank you for explaining LMAO

Yes that’s about as bad of a way to go as I can imagine. The only worse thing I’ve heard is the story of this man in the late 19th or early 20th century who got stuck in Sand Cave (near mammoth cave) and multiple other caves opened for paid tours in Kentucky USA. So he was hoping this cave on his property could be worth exploring in the hopes of finding big caverns or other interesting things that would attract tourists. He was crawling along on his stomach in a position where he was facing head down when a rock broke off the wall causing his leg to both brake and get stuck. He had the luck [it seemed at the time] of his brother noticing he was missing early on and finding him. Then more false hope as a rescue effort began slowly at first with his brother trying to get him unstuck and eventually a huge rescue, media, and public effort was underway. Then a cave in blocked off the cavern he was located in leaving him alone, stuck upside down, and in complete darkness. That didn’t stop the rescue it just redirected it. They eventually dug down from the surface to find him dead from starvation and removed his remains only for him and his casket to be returned to the cave as part of a tourist attraction. He was exploring the cave to begin with in the hopes of making it a tourist attraction anyway so 🤷‍♂️.
Upside down, with a broken and stuck leg, in complete darkness, starving to death..after you thought they were going to be able to get you out sounds like my worst nightmare. I like going in caves but never in a situation where I had to crawl and squeeze my way through and absolutely 1000000% nope.. no.. not a chance in hell would I ever go cave diving.

@@ben-jam-in6941 I saw that story, as well. How sad. Just like the Colorado teenager who left his home one day to go for a walk, never to return and it wasn't until 7 years later when a neighboring cabin owner, demolishing his cabin, discovered the teenagers' skeletal remains, stuck in the cabin's chimney. (Just a mile from his home). Who knows for how long he suffered, all alone. May all these poor souls, RIP.

@@isabellind1292 Ya that was a horrific story as well especially since he was just a teen with his entire life ahead of him. I agree may they all rest in peace and may fewer people make bad decisions and get into those situations. (I say fewer rather than none because I know bad stuff like that’s always gonna happen).

Not as bad as slavery done to black people😮😮

​@@isabellind1292I remember that story too. Like lil bro u ain't Santa my man wth u climbing in a chimney for? Reminds me of those divers that got sucked into that pipe in the Carribean last year I think it was. Stuck in an enclosed space w no clue of what's what and no hope. Damn😔

This is such important information. You should do a video about this. ❤️

​@@daytradersanonymous9955Fr bruh

​@@daytradersanonymous9955Not a fan of telling people to shut up but you do realize that writing nothing would have been more productive than this right?

4. don't wear a "one more MILF" tshirt

Always take a map and a compass with you and never go alone.

My exact sentiments!

So true. The way this was edited, the storytelling... just very well-made.

Haven’t watch tv in over 10 years lol minus breaking bad back when it was around

Same!

@@stevefromyellowstone7911 same haha, only Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, and Peaky Blinders are my three exceptions, otherwise KRplus IS my TV!

While this sounds like an act we think most parents would do, this act by your mother is still one of the greatest things a human being could ever hope to do…care for their child even in cases where death is looming.

I also got lost once with my grandma when I was little, there was a fork in the trail it was a 50/50 shot and we took the wrong way. We didn't know we took the wrong trail because it was our first time taking that route and ended up walking for around 12 miles before we found a place where there was service, and we were picked up by a ranger. I remember not being scared because of how calm my grandma was, she just recently got diagnosed with dementia and i miss hiking on trails with her.

that's what it is, luck. you step off the trail, release the guideline, whatever, for a second then... it's gone. i've been lucky to find my bearings again and make it home, late after terrifying my paranoid parents. but there's the issue, how many times until i don't find my way again? how many times until i'm a story just like these, a body in the woods, a footnote, a tragedy, and a warning.
you and your mother were graced with survival, much like a golden few, but there are a countless many that haven't, and their voices call you to join them.

Would you be available for interview?

Brother, I hope you are doing good now but bruhh this sacred the sh*t out of me as I m good with imagination and puting myself on your place 😨😰

Wow, this story could be made into a movie. 😮

@@paolorossi5989 theres similar movies such as the forest watch it its really good

I enjoyed reading this! But also because I have been to Vancouver island 😮

But then how would people know about how cool and smart he is?
That's the problem with these types.

They should have watched dual survivor

They should've turned around...and went back down the mountain. At 16 I wouldn't have listened to him lol. I would've followed my instincts

​@@randysavage1we're talking about post-war Europe. This isn't a question of instinct, but of mentality. Loyalty, camaraderie, and obedience to a certain extent were valued virtues, as well as perseverance. Those boys probably had a very strict upbringing, while also spending much time outside without parental control. My guess is that they didn't seriously question their teacher for a long part of the hike, didn't want to act against the group, and perhaps had already been in enough uncomfortable situations in their lives that they thought they would be able to simply stick it out.

He was an evil man

Have a nice life is a harsh one too, delivery depending

In the southern U.S., "Why, bless your heart" means, "Go f*ck yourself." Once I was in a court room a judge had just given a sentence to a thug who told the judge, as he was lead out in cuffs, "Have a BLESSed day, your Honor!" Without looking up, the judge said, "Same to you." @@BeanFace-oj2en

Expressive aphasia is a common stroke complication where the patient can understand language (spoken, written, ASL even braille) but cannot express language (cannot speak, write, point out letters, etc.). (The reverse is receptive aphasia.) A harsh reality is that most people die without other ppl in the room. Since strokes and expressive aphasia are common, that curse "May you die silent and alone" comes to pass frequently. In fact, I suspect the situation I just described is likely its origin.

​@@felixfelix8940 I found out last year that apparently, when people "die peacefully in their sleep", this is actually a myth, it's a kind lie to make loved ones of the deceased feel better. Because what actually happens most of the time is that the dying person wakes up, knows they're dying, and dies terrified and alone because everyone else is also asleep. They are too weak to call for help, they know they're dying and just don't have the strength to do anything about it.
To actually die peacefully in your sleep is a lot rarer than we're told. But it's truly a blessing, for that to happen. It's much kinder, than dying alone and afraid. But you don't get to choose how you're born or how you die. I'm just hoping that some of them manage to find some sort of peace right before they go, so the terror doesn't last too long, and they just realise that their time is up and they've had a good innings and it's time for them to go, and so they accept it.

@n18OK, let me debunk all of that. To start, I'm a board-certified internist. I've seen so many ppl die when I crunched the numbers it was ridiculous. It's not that ppl die "in their sleep," they die while unconscious, which is peaceful, and lives right next door to "in their sleep." Ppl don't whisper final words when they die, because they're DYING. People don't wake up while dying b/c they are DYING. You said it yourself, "they are too weak," but dying ppl are too weak to wake up in the first place.
Exceptions are that the pain of a heart attack or a sub-arachnoid intracranial hemorrhage will wake that person. The arrythmias or paralysis that comes with these things will render you incapable of calling for help. Terrifying, yes, but in these instances the drastic changes in blood flow to the brain from low cardiac output or brain swelling renders them incapable of basic thinking. It's a quick death.
We soften things for family members but we do not lie. Heart disease kills most Americans and cancer comes next. Most old folks have weak hearts and abnormal rhythms and at some point, poof, that's enough to shut you off in your sleep. Cancer death is often from it spreading to vital organs, so we are back at comas, unconsciousness, etc. I
f you read your source from the web, remember that Lincoln said believe half of what you read and none of what you hear. An example is "What your doctor doesn't want you to know about [xyz]." There is nothing your doctor doesn't want you to know. Other click bait is "medical myth" and my favorite, "Scientists stunned by..." The cold hard truth is that except for hospice, death is almost always ugly or painful, and most ppl die alone. That's why we hide it behind curtains, closed doors, and hospices. American's delicate psyches and TV/movie stereotypes make for a gross misunderstanding of some thing exactly as natural and common as birth itself.
Old age and terminal illness both usually bring that acceptance you mention, not at the last minute, but much much earlier. That's why I think dying ppl go into that in-and-out state towards the end, they're pre-shutting off. Ppl who survive failed parachute or failed suicide by jumping sometimes report separating from their body before impact, which I think is a similar mechanism to the in-and-out state of those near death.
But many of can choose a peaceful death: death with dignity. It's MUCH better than those last three month of a cancer death. You do it while your mind is sharp, surrounded by your peeps, in a nice room with a beautiful view, drink a glass of OJ and slip away. They spread your ashes the next day. Screw the funeral industry driven by profits that preys on grief.

It’s not her it’s the/they nature

@@LucrativeLarryshut up

@@LucrativeLarryNature is predominantly referred to with feminine pronouns in many cultures. Mother Nature/Earth, Gaia, Terra, and many others are personified as female. Especially as the poster used “Mother Nature,” it’s definitely appropriate to use she/her pronouns.

​@@Laura_Parenti not op, just throwing in my two-cents: while I do agree she/her works and honestly just sounds better in this case, I feel like they/them is technically more accurate since Nature encompasses multiple individuals. But idk.

@@AssassinPinapple In the Western Context, we mostly use her (in the same way that all ships are feminine, including HMS King George V)

Yes. There is my 'bucket' list and there is my 'f*ck it' list. And cave diving is definitely on that second list.

Me too! I wouldn’t cave dive even if someone paid me. Lol

I don’t want to be underground by choice while I’m alive! It’s strange how people have their own fears. Like maybe one of these spelunker people might be absolutely horrified by speaking in front of a crowd or getting a shot or flying. We have our strengths and we have our weaknesses…

It really surprises me the BASE jumping is more dangerous than cave diving. What can go wrong in BASE jumping? Parachute malfunction, or hitting the object from which you jumped.
What can go wrong with cave diving? Pretty much anything and everything. You can take the best cave diver in the world and send them down with perfectly functioning equipment and still, they make one tiny mistake and the end.

​@@scottbubb2946yeah but also base jumping still sounds the most stupid of all. at least some cave divings are for science

I almost rewound thinking Id missed something ;) then my quiet inner voice said, trust her... and she did not disappoint.

I was about to write everything you said.

If I had a nickel for every time a stubborn German teacher foolishly led boys up a mountain to their deaths I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.

Wasn't the first one was a stubborn British teacher?

I was thinking the same thing. I even accidently quoted the video before the narrator did about how surely this wasn't happening *again*?! Such a tragedy, and one that was 100% avoidable. I feel so sad for the families of those kids, and also for the people who tried to warn him about the weather, etc.

What do you mean by lack of snow? (it doesn't snow in my country) i mean wouldn't it be easier if there wasn't snow?? Snow literally covers everything...?!

@@jannatunnaim5139 I think it is because you can see your trail in the snow

@@JamesZheyuXu what do you do when there's heavy snowfall and your trail disappears?

@@jannatunnaim5139 Then, you get lost basically, in that case that is what happens

And a really nice voice as a bonus.

For real I agreee

@@DaisyMaeMoses I agree, the content is interesting but I think I would enjoy listening to anything she has to say just to hear her say it.

Phenomenal job with this video and I HAD to subscribe ❤

fancy seeing you here good sir

Especially for Gerry. She was almost 70, being elderly and alone as well as lost in unforgiving terrain but have been absolutely terrifying. I struggle to understand why her hiking partner left her knowing her age and existing deficits in her survival knowledge. Like was their no one to step in to replace her? Could her family not convince her to come home and try another day? Idk, I couldn't in good conscious leave an elderly woman in a large wooded area for any amount of time all alone

@@TheZombifiedFairy what do you mean her hiking partner left her? Her family left her, this and that, why nobody stepped up and went with her? No one was responsible for her! She was an adult and she made her own reckless decision to continue hiking alone after her hiking partner had to leave for an emergency. I'm much younger and wouldn't dare even a day hike on my own. Instead of blaming everybody else for not dancing around her, she should have simply discontinued the hike. That would've been the responsible thing to do. But if she tended to get combative after she made mistakes, you can imagine her reaction to people telling her to stay home. Sounded a bit stubborn and bossy so people preferred just to give in and let her do whatever she wanted. It's sad how she died but sadly, she could've prevented this, even if she just had been better prepared.

Gerry didnt bring a compass with her….

@kokoskokso I said the hiking partner AND her family. They both could have done something to prevent this outcome. The hiking partner left her in the middle of the woods and her family enabled rather than convinced her to come home and try again at a later date. She's an adult... she's also almost 70 YEARS OLD. There is no way she should have been out there alone. Not even many fit 20-30 year olds are soloing such a hike.
The hiking partner had an emergency, I'm not saying she should have ignored it, I am questioning why no one came together to get her to reschedule when the hiking partner was available again. Idk about her family, but the hiking partner has intimate knowledge of Gerry's survival skills, as exemplified by their quotes after her death.
There is NOTHING in the video to suggest she was the combative type as they have nothing but good things to say about her. She's to blame, but I'm also blaming those around her because (again) she was almost 70. Don't enable her by leaving her in the woods (hiking partner) or bringing supplies every week (family) because she wants to do something dangerous. I don't believe that they were helplessly watching this go on and had no shortcomings at play. She holds ultimate blame, but those who enabled this to happen has some blame too. I don't care how we try to skirt around that by saying she's an adult.

@@TheZombifiedFairy it literally says that at 44:00.
Sure, if it was my family, I'd do my best to convince them not to continue. But ultimately she made her decision. Remember she was well enough to go on a hike for several weeks.

Legit absolutely terrifying. I hate the dark as a 44-year-old man. I couldn't imagine living in it for 3 weeks and slowly losing my mind and hallucinating without seeing anything and every sound would be a monster or something coming to get me. I'm sure if you had a handgun he would have ended it a lot sooner. I'll do respect to him. That's arguably one of the worst fates.

That was horrible, it’s awful but I almost think it would’ve been better for him to drown, as awful as that is he wouldn’t have been in the dark for so long by himself

As someone who is claustrophobic, I’d rather be burned alive.

I feel as though I would have rather suffocated trying to get out especially with the last remaining light than slowly go mad over the course of 3 weeks of starvation and pitch black

​@@InsidiousTop500The fight or flight mode kicked in and he chose to flight and surrender to his predicament, the longer he stayed the less he would have been able to fight it , utter terrifying horror of knowing after a few days that no1 is coming for you and you are on your own in the dark cold wet cave.😢

It's extremely negligent to go out into a forest trail entirely on your own, without a compass or any previous thought about how to rescue yourself if something went wrong.
If she had a compass she could have set up a tent, and walked in straight lines away from her tent in multiple direction, always being able to find back to the tent using her Compass.
She could also have walked in any direction, marking trees or branches along the way to find her way back.
Basically, what she did was like going swimming far out into the ocean without knowing how to swim.
It's not a nice thing to say, but she was basically an idiot.
Its definitely sad, but the group of teenage boys being led into certain death by their mentor is a lot worse in my opinion. They died with no fault of their own.

I've known about this story for a few years and I can't help but think that if She'd had a whistle, this could have been avoided. I'm not a hiker but if I were, I would never go anywhere without a whistle.

@@carlpanzram7081 Okay. You're entitled to your own opinion. This one was mine

@@carlpanzram7081 I agree. When it said she used to get lost frequently and then would get combative it solidified it for me. Sure I'm sorry for everyone dying a miserable death and she does sound like a lovely lady. But she was woefully unprepared and stubborn. As an elderly lady with back issues and lame orientation, plus no survival skills it's really hazardous to go on such a long hike alone. I'm still young but wouldn't dare going on a day hike alone. You never know if you stumble and twist your ankle, run into an animal or human predator, whatever. Being self-righteous prevents you from remaining teachable. Pride goes before the fall. I'm sorry for her and her family. Not knowing what happened to her for years must've been awful, on top of rumors that it was you who did something to her.

@@carlpanzram7081yes exactly. If you have a compass, every time you go off the trail you can check what direction that is and immediately know what direction is back to the trail.
I cannot fathom hiking alone in the wilderness without a legit compass. Or hell at that point get a satellite phone. My God, stupidity kills.

That person placed himself there.
Most humans wouldn't.

That dude was a fucking idiot, did he expect everyone to babysit him and make sure he wasn’t wandering away?

I feel very angry towards the authorities. If they let his mates in to help look for Peter, they would've found him (since they did find him quickly once the cave was reopened). I also don't like how they abandoned efforts with the excuse that "Peter drowned" when his mates knew the cave better and told them it was possible for Peter to be in an air pocket.

Don’t go cave diving, simple

Agreed. I think the same thing when I watch shows about people falling off mountains etc. Basically these people are getting involved with risky adrenaline raising activities for no truly beneficial reason. They enjoy playing Russian roulette. The real disaster is when rescuers get harmed or die going after these thrill seekers.
That lady on the Appalachian trail had more things going on than shown in this video. She should not have been left alone on any trail. I am from Maine.

And it was the 2nd time in like 20 years

Watch the previous one. The one in the Black Forest. It's somehow worse. At least Hans paid for his hubris. The other teacher survived and lied about what happened.

Hans's poor planning was infuriating, but the way he was found is also heartbreaking. The fact that he was clearly huddling with the youngest boy and likely doing what little he could to help the kid who was probably the most vulnerable in the group does make it clear that he realized how horrible his choices were. :(

@@HeyLeFay or he was trying to use the kids body heat to keep himself alive.

@@FRLN500 A dead body only stays warm for a very short time, even living bodies in the cold. All blood flow to the skin and extremities is shut down to keep the inner organs warm as long is possible.

He fucked around & found out….his dumb

I agree . I keep thinking of that poor man in total darkness. Hungry and afraid. I can’t imagine how it would feel to sleep and wake up every day in total darkness and realizing exactly where you’re at. When did he give up hope .

It is indeed and also the first video on this channel about the Nutty Putty cave accident. That one is also a nightmare I've been thinking about for days.

Hearing that he stayed there for 3 whole weeks before dying really solidified it for me…..

The most horrifying story I heard before this one was the nutty putty cave incident. This one is more haunting i think.

What a read man. Glad you're safe and alright

Mate, if you haven't gone to the hospital or doctor to check your noggin, you really need to do so. Head injuries aren't always a straightforward, immediate thing. Please think about this.

Thank God you made it. It took a lot of strength to keep yourself going and not give up.

well that was quite stupid wasn't it lol, walking alone in an unfamiliar place. hope you bring a friend next time.

He is at risk for developing seizures later in life @@daisy3869

I leaned this the hard way on a trip to the grand canyon. We had an hour to hike in and back. The guide split us into 3 groups based ok our athletic ability (it was a school trip) and I demanded to be put in group three which would go 1.5 miles down the canyon and back (group two 1 mile and group one .5 miles). The guide had his doubts, but I assured him that I walked 1.5 miles to
school everyday, and that I would be fine. This wasn't a lie, but I failed to account for the slope. The first mile was fine, light work even. But the last half mile the canyon was unforgiving, and became about twice as steep as it had been the first mile. By the time i got to the 1.5 mile marker, I had been going for 35 minutes, and now had only 25 to make my way back up the trail (which would be even harder because of gravity). I only made it about two thirds of the way up before I was on the verge of passing out, had thrown up from both de and over hydration. One of the football players came back down and threw my arm
over his shoulder, and "carried" although perhaps dragged is a better word, back to the top of the trail and onto the bus. Needless to say, my friends and GF reprimanded me fiercely for demanding the tour guide to put me in the most advanced group (they didn't know until after the fact since they had left with group one on the .5 mile descent), and I learned a very valuable lesson about listening to people who do what they do for a living.

SMB it may benefit you to go to therapy. If multiple people are telling you not to do something like this and you dont listen. Combined with the dramatic narrative you give it makes it sound like you could benefit from therapy. Some of us need help to learn to give others benefit of the doubt that they are knowledgeable and therapy can help those of us that need that bump to trust others. I hope you never get in a situation like this again. Good luck!

@@Couscous77thank you. The dramatic wording is just something I'm prone to, I like entertaining, but the cliffnotes (I was stubborn on a school trip, I got sick from being dehydrated and then drinking way too much to fast at a trail stop, I was supported out by a football player) are all true. I normally don't argue with authority figures I just really really hated this particular tour guide (he was just an asshole in general) and I wanted to pick a fight. I've tried therapy but I find it often doesn't go anywhere and I can't really afford it anyway, but if I ever get the opportunity for a good therapist I'll prolly take it for other reasons (since I know I got some stuff going on I just push through it most days by necessity)

So many of the fatal stories are of 'highly experienced' people getting complacent, thinking they're invincible, so ignoring warnings and ending up lost /dead

@@Couscous77 Ridiculous comment. Not everything is traumatic, and why do you consider a disregard for authority to be something that needs therapy?

Ayep. A young woman once asked people for advice on traveling the country in only her car. I repeated some advice I was given: practice in your own driveway/parking lot first. What problems you will have will be fast discovered and you can try out fun things like peeing in a portable female urinal inside your car.

Hans and Keast are in good company I suppose.

Even worse is the idea that had she carried a Satelitte phone, A PLB (Personal Locator Beacon) or even a loud whistle or other way to signal, she could have been found and survived. Basically, had she even noted which way she was stepping off the trail, she could have been found. Still a very sad case.

I've heard her story several times, it is very sad! Unfortunately though, once her friend couldn't make it, she never should have continued on alone, she wasn't 100% confident to do so, but she went anyway. Very sad.

Why hell, what he do against u 😢

To understand his torment and anguish, despairing alone in the pitch black starving freezing hallucinating all the time knowing salvation is only a short swim down the correct tunnel and having the means to complete the task. Until your torch dies then your mind goes and no amount of air in your tank is enough then to save you, yeah that’s a bad predicament to find one’s self in…

@n3h3m he got trapped for 3 week's poor chap, died of starvation, alone in pitch black. 😢

how do you get lost there's like 4 tunnels lmao

@@jgwentworth6735 the tunnels are patrolled by trolls

@@princeamongmen7064 you're more disrespectful than I am. drop your attitude and answer my question, thanks

Great advice, the best one for women. I know from experience which is why I have now a device that allows me to pee standing up, without having to pull down the pants to me knees. I hope my comment is appropriate, but it is one thing I have always with me when I am out hiking.

@@c.g.ku.9479Why?

@@EndritVj Why "why"?

@@c.g.ku.9479 The device.

Gerry was a Liberal big surprise the wilderness took her.

Those pictures were giving me flashbacks to the Blair Witch movie. :P

At first I was like “oh but you could follow the moon or sun” but then it hit me the forest is so dense you can’t see crap out the branches 😂

As someone who has hiked the AT starting at Springer Mountain in Georgia, and finishing just a few days shy of 7 months later on Mt Katahdin in Maine, this is 100% true! Maine has some incredibly deep and dense wilderness areas. Like, words just dont even do it justice, and you can't even comprehend what it's like if you haven't actually been out in it. There is a wilderness area called the 100 Mile Wilderness in Maine. Its called that because thats literally what it is. Its 100 miles of nothing but dense wilderness, without ever coming across a road or town or anything. Hikers have gone missing out there and have never been found in that wilderness. People go missing out there just by walking off trail just a few steps to take a leak, and that's not an exaggeration either. Maine wilderness is no joke. And in the winter months, its just a frozen forest hellscape. Maine wilderness is just a very, very easy place to die in.

@@mattjack3983 bruh I’m gonna look up like a video of this. I live in AZ and i don’t think I can actually comprehend how dense forests can get.

@@Drexyl_Durden i was over here like duuuhh Gerry just use the moon as a guide 🤣🤣. Talk about not knowing what you’re talking about 🤣

Thank you! this means a lot :)

Could not agree with this more! I would hasten to add that this same transcendent quality level is (bewilderingly) consistent through all 6 videos released so far.

I thought you were about to announce a hiking trip with your students on a snowy mountain

​@@ELTABULLObring your mittens kiddoes

@@ELTABULLO😂😂😂

You dont have to be a time traveller to do good, or help where its needed

@@ElizabethSanto22 one doesn't need to be a time traveler to assist others but it would certainly help and i personally plan on making that possibility a reality in due course

Other time travelers want to change society, alter the course of history..I also fantasize about fixing the small things. Being that helpful person who was there at just the right time, the right place.

​@pissiole5654 you don't believe things happen for a reason, that messing with the timeline might cause unintended and unpredictably devastating consequences?

@@cleanserene6330 thats exactly what im hoping for

Remember this, like one of our men said,
EVERYBODY has a breaking point.

Ughhhjj so scary cuz u don’t wanna venture too far in any direction and potentially get even more lost, but to be only 30 feet away!!

Do you know we have a nifty invention, it's called a compass?

You are so clever, hope it NEVER happens to you when faced with the ultimate decision...which way do I turn.@@SanctusBacchus

@@SanctusBacchus Have you heard of this nifty phrase called ’there’s a time and place for everything’? Yeah, shut the fuck up. This is not the time for you to be a smartass, not a single soul is impressed by your extremely mediocre ability to detect flaws in hindsight.

I watched the Thai incident on a local TV channel. Very horrifying.

German tourists getting lost in the Austrian Alps is tradition at this point.

The boys being stuck in the Thai cave was not the fault of their assistant coach. If anything, the boys and their parents attribute the coach being a major factor in the boys' survival at all. It was not the rainy season yet, and they genuinely could not have expected the freak rainstorm. Even one of the experts recruited because he had mapped the cave have planned on going there some days later.

I didnt think aything could be worse than the sailors, or Nutty Putty...

​@@ElizabethSanto22Nutty putty was a freak getting off of being rescued multiple times. He repeatedly put himself in dangerous, tight places and either barely survived or needed others to risk their lives for his. Not even having a family was enough, like a serial killer, he couldn't stop himself and got stuck one last time. Thankfully, nobody died trying to save him.

@@TheDendra7the nutty putty guy hadn’t been caving in many years so I’m not sure what you are on about. He was visiting his family over Thanksgiving and decided to go caving since they had done it with their dad as kids. He made a mistake and paid for it with his life. I wouldn’t describe him as someone who was constantly putting himself into dangerous situations
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@@TheDendra7you think the guy who died in the Putty continued to purposely get himself stuck? And how was he exactly a freak ? You make it sound like he enjoyed having people risk their lives to try and save him. And he made a big mistake. You’re upset because he put other people’s lives in danger in trying to rescue him? Humans are explorers and it’s in our nature. And don’t worry. You didn’t sign up to put your life at risk to rescue someone from a cave.

Of course its scarier because its true. Wtf kind of comparison is that?

honestly if lost in north american areas where you know at some point you will find infrastructure try and find powerlines or rivers, unlike many places for the most part the east coast you can always walk and eventually find something, the problem is not everyone can last that long

What do you say, Never underestimate the mountains?
Is that a good warning to live by, sir? What do you say?

I think for a lone woman like Gerry’s case beyond embarrassment there’s the fear of violence if someone finds you in a vulnerable position like that which is another reason having a hiking buddy is so useful

@@analyticalhabitrails9857what say you, sir!

You can get lost and die in an amazingly small area. Because all humans are asymmetrical, walking in a circle is unavoidable. People have walked for hours only to end up right back where they started, get upset and choose a totally different direction and end up right back where they started. If, as you say, there's a mountain that you can summit or a river to follow, that's hopeful, but many areas are flat and surprisingly uniform without flowing water. And you can easily follow a creek or stream only to end up in a pond, somewhere where no human has been in decades, even in America, which has been, as you alluded, completely developed from coast to coast. @@circleinforthecube5170

So glad you found your dog!

@@marine463 me too! Thank you a bunch for that. It sounds like nothing compared to what these people have gone through in these other stories of "getting lost" but the feeling in general is scary. I've hiked in the woods a lot & seen (missing dog flyers on trees) so it added to my concern about if i was actually going to find my dog. Especially with how vast & dense of an area i was in. Anyways i hope you have a wonderful day

@@benmcreynolds8581 Thank you you too!

Thanks for sharing your story. I’m glad it had a happy ending 🙂

beautiful moment you've shared

Even the creatures are nice in Canada, especially on Newfoundland: the nicest place on Earth. Glad you still feel grateful for that bird saving your life.

Wow!!!!! Do you remember how you figured out to follow the crow?

Birds are filled with spirit

A crow led me to my lost cat in a tree in the forest

Animals are the silent servants of God

Sounds like she was a very determined woman. She should have returned with her partner & planned again for a later hike.
There are so many things she could have done but she didn’t. Frustrating? Yes. Fear? Yes. Exhaustion? Yes.
Condolences to her family. 👵🏻👩‍🌾❣️

Maine's forests are like nothing else I've ever seen, I'm from the Pacific Northwest originally and our tree coverage is nothing to sneer at, but Maine? I would never try to venture in those woods alone. There are so many places that are SO isolated up there like I've never seen, add in the unforgiving cold and I'd be terrified to be turned around in any Maine forest.

If I'm not mistaken, she was in the "100 Mile Wilderness". A notoriously miserable area to hike through. And there would be no opportunity for a cell signal, even at an increased altitude. (That would be something I would try if lost in Maine, go to higher altitude to try for a single, as it usually works.) One definitely should know some basic survival skills prior to attempting some of these terrains!

Right but she was so close to the trail. How do you not walk in every direction atleast once ? And how far you really go off the trail to piss .
It was a suicide. She knew she was about to see her husband again and realized she didn’t love him so killed herself

@@JoeRogansForehead i've seen much better bait

@@acklesis bait? It’s true

@@JoeRogansForehead Spoken as somebody who has never walked in the forest

I can think of a word: moron.

Now you put it like that it really does seem the common thread is being arrogant, self-righteous, knowing better than anybody and refusing to heed any kind of common-sense advice because you know best. I'm just not going to care and take precautions because I'm so special and nothing can happen to me. It's really infuriating especially with the boys. The first photo was so beautiful, full of life and joy, peak time.

Same, I have a sick feeling in my stomach thinking about it, I hope I don’t have nightmares about the underwater cave one tonight…

@@kokoskokso maybe someone refuses to ask for advice or listen to any advice because for them it was a very negative experience.
Maybe they tried before and were humiliated badly or mocked by 'advisers'.

Woah! Thank you so much!

Yes, I really appreciate it. I find I don't watch any that don't have closed captioning because it is so frustrating. Her voice is clear, too.

Most YT videos have the full transcript in the description. You can click on the numbered time stamps to backtrack or move forward.

@@rt66vintage16 Yes, but then you have to try to read along in small font. It's exasperating.

KRplus has an automatic captioning option now, I think. But if anything, there are programs that can automatically transcribe them for you and you just need to review them for minor errors. It’s nice to see content creators who make sure their videos are accessible.

Her being such a short walk from the trail is heartbreaking. And all because she left the course to use the toilet! It's hard trying to understand how she walked in what can only be assumed to be a straight line off the trail, used the toilet, then walked that straight short distance back to the trail only for it not to be there. How on earth did that occur? Maybe she did walk back in the right direction but not quite far enough and turned back just a bit too early? From there it was over I suppose because she from then on only picked the wrong directions to try...

@@k1dn1ce76. I have a terrible sense of direction and can consequently relate to Gerry’s. I’d read about Geraldine before. One thing that was pointed out in the last piece l read about Gerry is that she set up her tent under a canopy of trees. This move added to her demise. If she’d set up her tent in an open area, she might have been found. Heartbreaking…..

@@wendycrawford1792 I wonder why she walked so far off the trail when she went to the toilet? I'm wondering if she walked a lot further in a straight line than she realised and hence misjudged the distance required to retrace the linear distance back. This would account for her walking back in the correct orientation but not finding the course upon doing so, as her direction was correct but she needed to carry on somewhat further to eventually come back upon the course. Once she made this mistake and turned back too early it was over for her as she took the opposite direction and headed continually further into the wilderness! This theory at least somewhat makes sense.

@@k1dn1ce76 She walked so far off the trail because she's a woman. The video even pointed out that she would go less far off usually, when she had a second person with her, but it's a different story on your own.
This is actually a huge problem in many countries in the world for women living in poor conditions without access to toilets. The danger of men finding you alone in such a vulnerable position is significant, so you go out further into the wilderness, which (as this video very clearly shows) comes with its own dangers.

its exetremley easy to get turned around in the woods, even small pockets are confusing, so having this massive expanse with difficult terrain on top of that,,, who knows if she walked back in the proper direction. One thing for certain is that this is an extremeley sad story that people on hikes can learn from, count your steps, get a reliable compass, and dont wander far off the trail even when it doesnt feel like a long walk. i hope she died at peace and with the knowledge that her family loved her and tried everything to get her back R.I.P. @@k1dn1ce76

kudos from Bavaria. And most of the time, they are not even injured, but simply exhausted and stuck.

Sir, I feel sick!!
Dangerous even on established hiking path...?!?!
O_O

​@@analyticalhabitrails9857Happens more often than not. Bad clothes that make you feel too cold, exhaustion, asthma attacks, lacks of water, sudden drop of energy due to low sugar level, heat strokes in certain part of Europe during summer, etc etc...
There's quite a whole lot of reason to be in need of assistance even on an established path. Some are very rough, hard to navigate, very long.

I love kangaroos

so true... went to the Herzogstand in Bavaria in late May. There was still snow on top and some Asian tourists where walking around in Flip Flops, slipping and sliding all the way, still trying to reach the peak. And Herzogstand sure is no challenging peak.

The Jacob Geller channel made a few Fear Of.. videos and I thought this was another of them. I think he has one on cold.

"Wilderness Therapy Camp" sounds like a 1984 euphemism for prison.

At least Hans had the decency to try to protect the youngest boy, and likely at least realized his foolishness where as Keast tried to paint himself as a hero afterwards.

@@HeyLeFay I will have to read into Keast. I assumed he died during the incident from the way the video went, but he lived? I am going to research this.

That’s just the reality of grossly overestimating your own abilities in combination with a pride that won’t let you admit defeat. An experienced mountaineer wouldn’t feel the need to prove themselves nor would they have gone through with the hike. If Hans truly had had knowledge in the field, even if they got lost, he’d know what to do if they did. Which he clearly didn’t…

A particular appreciation for getting some of the accounts and physical documentation. That takes a lot of time, but adds a lot to the story.

The visuals she creates are outstanding! I’m dying to find out how she created the blackout images with the white silhouette people…I wonder if they were made up of premade assets or if she created them all herself. Either way, fantastic job.

yeah there were so many paralells that at first I thought I had already seen this video and was mis-remembering

​@@yerabbit6333it's the same for me, I had thought maybe I had seen someone else cover the same story

A similar incident happened on Mount Hood in 1986 in the United States. It was also a school trip.

Hi, Rachel your channel is interesting too

Ayuh, it's pretty wicked out there.

@@user-lx8gk2lu2x magine

That's scary

How did you get back?

@@pradeepchauhan6784 picked a random direction and tried to walk my way out in a straight line, I had to hit something eventually. I finally heard a motor changed direction towards the motor. Still took a few more hours to find where I'd come from. there is no addresses in grawin and I didn't live there so didn't know how to get thru the rabbit waren to get back to my sister's. I'm so thankful to the man who rescued me and took hours to make sure I got back to where I should be, he could have left me at their local pub but he made sure I got back there. 🖤🖤🖤 I wish I could remember his name but I was freaking out and all the emotions I'd been holding in the whole time I was lost just came blubbering out.

Trail of bread crumbs aka Hansel and gretel. J/k 😂

@@DavidThomas-qq4hf wasnt it Ginger bread happy holiday

Imagine if she could have started a big fire with pine needles and leaves on it for smoke. That was her biggest mistake, having 0 survival skills.

​​@@krishanson5503if she had a compass and basic reasoning skills, she could have found the trail within 3-5 hours.
You set up your tent, take your Compas and walk north for half an hour.
No trail in sight? Go back south in a straight line, back to your tent.
Do the same into 3 other directions and you are guaranteed to find the trail.
You also could have used any other method of finding your way back to the tent. Basically venture out as far as you safely can without loosing your way back to your tent.
This is what I would have done. (or Maybe I would have lost my tent and then ran as far as I could, panicked and in any random direction until I collapse due to exhaustion.)

@@carlpanzram7081 That's what I kept on thinking. Just walk around, mark your way, worst case come back and try a different route. I wouldn't allow her to go on a day hike alone, let alone the AT for days on her own. It's irresponsible. Even if you just stumble and fall and hit your head, whatever. Being older, back issues, confused and self-righteous was a disaster waiting to happen. But like you say, who knows what we'd done in her shoes. People react in strange ways when in panic mode. I'm going to check out the survival books that were show at the end of the video, that was a nice move.

@@carlpanzram7081 it does seem to be strange and to be honest, even the writer of the book was a little confused at points! But when you consider the following: a) she didn't have a working compass (the writer tested out the model she had - it was useless), b) she went deeper into the forest and lost all orientation, c) the trail is north-south bound but it isn't straight (meaning if you become lost you have to be exceptionally precise in your navigation), d) the forest is extremely dense, you can't always just go north or south very easily on foot and e) it rained for the first few days she was missing, making navigation via the sun very difficult - then it does kind of make a bit more sense. And that's not even considering the rapid cognitive decline due to starvation. Just really awful and unfortunate.

I get what you're saying but don't blame her family. Yeah she was elderly and unprepared, but she was still an autonomous adult. How exactly would you not "let" her do something she was determined to do?