Minecraft Mob Vote: Potential Lore? | Shallow Dive

Imagine a cleric spawning a Holy vex when facing a raid, that would be cool.

There's also the fact that Vex and Allay have names that mean basically the opposite - to vex someone is to upset them in some way, whereas you can allay something by reducing how upsetting or damaging it might be. Not perfect antonyms but not far off either. I think it may point to a close relationship.

The glare looks distantly related to the creeper.. if the glare wins the vote then it could possibly help is learn more about certain mobs like the creeper.

Currently I'm really on the fence between the Allay and Copper Golem, both of them seem really cool, and amazing potential lore for them both!

So now there are shallow dives, only 2 metres deep.

For me it’s between the Allay and Copper Golem! I like the glare but I think the Allay is just adorable and the copper golem would be SOO cool to make!! And then to have their bodies like statues around the world after they have oxidised would be so immersive to me hahaha - so I’m definitely voting for the golem but I wouldn’t mind if the Allay wins either. And at the end of the day, if the glare wins then hey! It’s still a neat creature that’ll be fun to mess around with!

Virgin Players: I am going to vote for a mob with most useful mechanics!
Chad RetroGamingNow: This Mob seems to have most interesting lore, I am going to vote for it.

In terms of lore, maybe hostile mobs don't spawn in the dark, but "come out" of the dark?

I was wondering how the copper golem would fit into the lore of the already existing golems, I would say that the lore was important in my choice

Hmmm certainly a interesting lore. Rip glare tho😂

The lore of mobs spawning in the dark isn't really something I've thought about before, and it'll be interesting to see how it plays out with the glare. I'll be voting glare #glareifyoucare

The copper golem would be a great lure for the villagers and ancient builders, but I'm still rooting for the allay to win

At least it’s a good set of mobs this year

I think the glare would have the most interesting lore to it as well as being a good ally in hardcore when making a base, so that during the night the glare goes to any dark spots not lit up yet giving the person a better chance of not getting sneaked up on by a creeper and losing the world

Perhaps the glare will he weakened by sunlight, that's why it goes to dark places, and it gains back its strength in complete drakness, so it gets grumpy and possibly hostile.

My take on the glare:
The glare looks like something you would find in the lush caves. The lush caves have glow berries, which light up the caves. It's possible that the glare would attempt to light up dark places if it could, but since it can't (At least, we don't think it can), when a player is nearby, it seeks out dark places and lets the player know it's too dark there.
This would imply that the glare knows in some capacity that the player can light up dark places. Why would it need to know this? Well, maybe one of the mobs of minecraft is harmful somehow to the lush caves biome, or to the glare itself, and the glare has adapted seek out spawning locations and attempt to light them to prevent that mob from spawning. I'm not certain what the harmful mob would be - maybe we'll know in the update these mobs are for, or maybe this mob is already extinct and we'll never see it - but it would make sense that the glare would evolve to rely on the ancient builders (The builders of the various ruins and structures you find in minecraft, such as the stronghold) to light these dark places up, since dark areas are harmful to both parties. The ancient builders probably had difficulty finding spawning locations, just like we do, so they used glares to reliably find and remove the dark spots. If this is the case, it's a symbiotic relationship, and would also help to explain why the glare seems to follow Little Agnes, as though it's tamable like dogs or cats.
Very interesting.

I think the Allay is a good Version of the vex so if it is added I think it would also give the game more lore.

These mobs can change the lore

Glare looks so cute.. 🥺

I’m voting for the Allay, but the Copper Golem has the coolest lore.

I think the glare spawn conditions are probably gonna relate to the cave generation. I'm gonna bet it's probably gonna spawn in the lushes cave biome where there's glow berries and just dark enough for it inhabits there

I really hope to see all the 3 mobs, they seems to be so different and cool

The top three mobs I am interested in that are coming to Minecraft are the Glare, the Copper Gollum, and the Allay. Also in my opinion they should all be in Minecraft or at least let us experience with these mobs at first by playing with them so we can understand all three of them and make a decision on our vote for both Java and Bedrock.

An angelic protector & helper would certainly be helpful in a lot of situations such as making it less lonely in the massive world of blocks

I'm voting for the Copper Golem!

Re: the Glare, I assume it's more of a dripping slime texture than a coat of fur or leaves. Also, people seem very befuddled by it seeking out places it doesn't like. I don't think it's that complicated. The Glare just warns the player by going into the dark spaces and essentially says "Hey, this place is too dark. Light it up!" I've seen so much mystification about it seeking out places it doesn't like, but it just seems like the best warning possible for a being that doesn't use words to communicate.

Please keep in mind that one of the devs said that the golem would probably have something to do with the upcoming archeology feature

If there was a Glowbat dream would definitely vote for it

The Allay would be great to theorise about and learn more about sould energy!

"Entrusting" was exatly how I've describe the glare before, that makes it even more funny xD
If we think in that way aboard in this video, we can choose 3 paths here: Magic for Allay, Tecnological for Copper Golem or Natural for Glare.
- Magic or supernatural - is self explained, so lets just slip through for now.
Copper Golem may be some sort of lost tecnologic and FOR SURE it will completely change a lot of stuff in - redstone circuits - , so yeah, tecnological.
And for the last one, Glare. Yeah, why natural? just because its greenish and covered in moss? Yes, and no. Between the three chooses, Glare still being the most... close? to vanilla minecraft and its natural style, even being a strange creature. The glare is the most close for something like The Betweenlands.
Okay, now, what about lore and utility?
Any of the paths will be really interesting to see, that is guaranted. Wherever the choose, we will be a little more closer from the "true" of minecraft world.
- Allays - are probably stray souls that moves around to play, it loves festives moods and to carry tasks to help others. If anything, they may be anywhere in the minecraft overworld wherever there are music and fun things. Their essence of existence may come from the gathering of good feelings or from beloved pets that gone far away. And how they will change minecraft? Well, that's a really blank spot. If they just collect fallen itens from the ground, they may be used as pets to collect drop itens from mobs that we kill, serving as auto-looting if combined with hoppers/minecarts and music blocks, but if they can collect another sorts of - non block - itens like clay, sticks and others natural resources, THAT will be really useful. The balance will probably be, as said, - natural resouces -. And that will not include minerals and hand made cookies xD
- Glares - like allays, may came from sources like souls or, if not, them can born from the liveness of the lush caves. Covered by the light of the glowberries, they fear and hates when someone takes it from them, they know about how dangerous the darkness can be, and everything they want is to cover the world in light. About the changes in minecraft? Sincerely... not much. They will for sure, help to find darkness in caves and inside of our living spaces, but that is it. Unless if the team wants be so mean to put some helpful loot to them. DO NOT DO THAT < PLEASE.
- Copper Golem - Buried in the pass of the time, these golem was forgotten inside the depth of the world. Their bodies, being made of copper got rusted and lost their capability to move. Who, the one that created it for the first time, probably made it with the intention of automate, but in the end, the product was an awkward copper mass that pressed wherever button that was made from the same source as them. Okay, about the possible changes: redstone circuits. I don't really know how much these golems will be carefree, but if there is, even if a little bit of consistence in their actions, that can be used. For sure. Those who works with redstone system understand it very well, anything new can change the scope of possibilities by A LOT when creating it.
Welp, for the last part: About my opinion? I still with glare. Even if they probably doesn't bring anything so useful, they still help out new players and may even help veterans sometime. I would love to see the Lush Caves infested with glares, flying around and pointing out places that can bring harm the them. But yet, anyone always dreamed with magic, if even a little, just a little of possibility that the Allay choose brings magic or the supernatural to vanilla minecraft, I would really, really like to see it. And for the last, but not least, Copper golems. These guys have potential to bring lore. I don't know if the team wants to choose a path now and continue into it, but if so, that certainly will go down to where the past is. What happened with the old civilization? how far the did go? Why the current habitants are so... meh... xD
Jokings apart, wherever the choose this time, I think that it will bring a lot of fun things to this world. Its just... sad, that we need to choose one.

What if the glare is a manifestation of soul energy which was once used for testing dark places (to see if they were safe) and now has inhabited a plant-like body? Or maybe even was made/tamed by the Ancient Builders to help them? The possibilities are endless. (I’m not telling you to vote for it, there are many other possibilities with the other mobs too, just sharing my theory :)

I wish the glare was more of a bushy bug, like a bigger silverfish or ender mite, and was motivated to go to the dark because it likes it. Imaging just a little creature scurrying around the lush caves, finding all the little crevices that light can’t reach. When the player does light everything up, an enclosure could be made out of tinted glass for it.....

The devs said we will be able to find frozen Copper Golems in archeology sites.

i haven’t watched the full video yet, but the lore potential the copper golem holds is really intriguing to me, plus it’s adorable. golem has my vote

Copper Golems will really tie into the archeology update!!

i guess if glare wins, the lore behind it is that it covers it's true form with moss so that when it approaches dark areas, the mobs that spawn there would think it's a hostile mob, and as for why it hates the dark so much, my theory is that hostile mobs hunt them down to the point of extinction so they hate them to the core and since they can't place torches or any light on their own they need the player's help, you could also argue that they are pets kept by the ancient builders and they watched as the mobs killed their owners and their own kind and had to adapt so mobs wont kill them
if allay win (which i would vote for) we would have a clearer understanding of how evokers can spawn and use vexes to do their bidding, one could also argue that evokers capture live allays and then do experiments on how to modify them to do their bidding
and as for the golem, its just like what you said

The copper golem is definitely my choice. Besides being simply a randomizer, its button-pushing behaviour can be used in lots of different redstone machines. Not to mention that it will also become a cool decorative statue later!

Finally someone who also thinks the glare is the most interesting one! I was so sad nobody even considered glare :(

"Im not here to tell you wich mob to vote on"
Well, i am, its copper golem

Tbh, I think I'll chose the copper golem since in some way, I believe that if the Oxidized Copper Golem that can be nautrally spawn in then I think there will also be a brand new structure that build to somewhat , created, contain and use that golem for a certain purpose like maybe a underground labotary that abandone by the Acient builder thus tell us more about the technological adavnce of the builder themself outside using Redstone for Trap. Maybe...just maybe...the Copper Golem is actually related to the Guardian.

Interesting, also, I would vote Copper Golem

I will vote for the copper golem sice i'm all about golems after one of your previous video.
Another thing: my guess for the Ravager is that it's probably made from Deepslate, Basalt, Tuff or even a mix of them. That would explain why mineshafts ignore ores, because they were made by the illagers who were not searching for ores but for the specific matierial that makes the ravager.

Copper golems sound like they would interact with redstone in an interesting way. If they go around the world pressing copper buttons, then that's kind of a roundabout way to automate something isn't it? Either that or a form of psuedo-RNG

its really sad to see that so many dont like the glare just because of f3. Not everyone has it for example bedrock players.

Thanks! FINNALY someone who also likes the glare
i like the glare because its reaally good for people that play without mods or texture packs

When it comes to these mobs I personally like them all alot, I think the Glare has the best utility for bedrock players, I'm probably going to vote for the Copper Golem because I feel it adds more in terms of Golem variety which we lack on top of the depth of its mechanics. The Allay has the most clever design and seems really interesting if it weren't for the water streams and hopper lines already existing.

Imagine walking in a cave and randomly finding a rusted copper golem. I would vote for that.

Wow I was just showing my buddy today about your channel. Makes me wanna hop on, explore, and speculate. Lol awesome content

Thank you for uploading this at almost 3 am

I feel like the glare could be kinda helpful to kill the warden in some way

The Glare is the only mob of the three that I really like the appearance of, but I definitely think the Allay has the best functionality. I wish we could get all three

I think the allay could he interesting since it could be an original creation or friend of the ancient builders since they are helpful to them and over time some switched sides to the illagers and became the vexes. Those are my thoughts anyways!

I love the Allay, it looks cute
That's the only reason I want it
And it can also help retrieve your Items such as materials and blocks that were in your inventory before you died, it also depends if it would be able to go anywhere in your world and not just a few chunks

finally, something to watch

I would love to see another Shallow Dive for the Sniffer, Rascal, and Tuff Golem !

I'm definitely most interested in the lore implications of the Allay, it's connections with the vex and possible soul energy connections get's me really excited as illager lore is some of my favorite stuff in the game!

These are really good options. I think I'd be happy with any one of them, though I think I'm leaning towards the Copper Golem.

Copper golem has the best lore by far. Who built these robots? Why don't they move? What powers them? Why are they around all the old statues

3:45 correction: If a loaded chunk contains two snow blocks and a pumpkin, on a version before carved pumpkins were separated from normal ones, then a Snow Golem will naturally spawn. 2b2t’s seed has one

I have a theory about the allay:
Once there were a vex that doesn't want to kill but the vex's master told the vex to fight no matter what and the vex doesn't want to obey but the vex doesn't have the power to escape so the vex go to a witch that helped the vex by giving the vex some sort of a blue potion and when the vex splashes it suddenly the vex turned blue because of the color sticking on it then when the vex got back home the vex killed the evoker and escape the evil mansion but since the vex is now alone the vex got bored until one day a the vex heard some one whispered to the vex and the voice told the vex to find a ghast and killed it to get the tears but the vex doesn't want to kill anything and refuse but suddenly the voice disappeared the vex got confused but the vex figure why does the voice wanted the vex to kill a ghast and get it's tears so the vex get an idea to instead stole it from the chest that he sees and when the vex touches the tears suddenly the vex stars to glow and become the allay that we know and after the transformation the allay got confused and shocked but then understanded that must be the creator and just go on with life until he stumble across some music that a poor player is playing and decided to help by giving items to the player and learned to search for loot chest from the past experience and that's how it all started the end.
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The Glare looks like moss lol. I wonder if it would spawn in the lush caves. I'm personally voting for the Allay. I do wonder where it'll spawn. If it spawns in woodland mansions that'll confirm it's association with the Vex. I'm very curious about that. Also it would be cool if the oxidized copper golems could be found in the upcoming dig sites as artifacts. That could add to the lore!

It would be so cool If in order to get a Allay, we would have to "heal" a vex in some way... I hope it's not too easy to get regardless...even though I'm voting for the golem lol.

The allay is certainly useful for farming and such but with the golem you could build an arrow dispenser tower defense type thing

An interesting thing ive noticed that i dont think any one else has talked about is how all three of the mobs were cute, passive versions of already existing possibly hostile mobs
The allay is the most obvious just being a helpful vex that can also commit theft
The copper golem is the small cousin of the iron golem which isnt really hostile but attacks you if you hit villigers so im counting it
And the glare is a bit of a stretch but i personally can see being related to the shulker mob, think about it a small creature we almost never see that hides in a block shaped bush and possesses floating abilities, it is kinda similar in my opinion
Anyway im glad the allay won little cookie boy is adorable

Very interesting, can't wait to vote!

I agree on the glare :)
Since it’s the only mob that’s friendly and related to evil monsters at the same time … like a Edward Snowden mob :0 that brings potential secrets out from the Minecraft monsters.
Imagine if there’s like a special ancient ruin spawn just for the glare beneath the earth :0 that would be dope.

There are some hints by the devs that copper golems will be found at archeological sites when they get added. That is of course if it gets voted in.

Man I just love these videos, there just so good

glare for the win. as long as i i can make it stay. imagine if it was playfully hostile. if you drop a mosblock it will take it and gain trust from you

My votes with the allay I’m afraid, it’s super useful and my favourite, and with the copper golem, I think it could spawn fully oxidised with the archeological areas that are yet to be added.

Man, you're gonna have a field day theorizing on the deep dark cities. The easiest solution would be saying that the ancient builders engineered some kind of soul plague, but what if there was more to it?

Hey Retro, cool video idea! Very creative!

if the copper golem is added in minecraft, i believe it could show how there could have been a civilization that experimented with redstone! a technologically advanced civilization...

They even changed the vex’s texture to match the allay

Allay for farming with music, golem for redstone maker, glare for adventurer in dungeon

They're all so good, this might be the hardest one yet

Copper golem is the best one, no contest. What's it up against?
A stupid ghost that picks up table scraps and a grouchy spirit that goes to darkness but hates darkness.

0:26 Shouldn't they be added "eventually"? I thought the vote was for which was added first, or was that only with the biomes?

I definitely want the allay it will be so useful for when you clear out large sections of cave, cos it'll pick up the stone drop them near a noteblock, which you can surround with hoppers. This is so perfect.

“Why does the glare actively try to go to places it dislikes?”
*masochist*

I hope I can vote for both allaw and copper golem

I personally am on Glare's side. Yes, the primary use that pops to mind would be mob proofing which already can be done in the f3 menu, but using the f3 is tedious because you have to go on the block to see (or use your brain to calculate further away). Glares are faster in this sense.
The light detecting mechanic can also be used in redstone contraptions (automatically moving entity on a pressure plate), which is completely unique. The copper golem is just a glorified randomizer and I have no idea how good it is at it. Maybe if copper buttons are too heavy to be pressed by players it could be something. Idk Mojang has never told everything.
The Allay, while cute and with a resource pack could be made to look like fairies or fireflies, is just an item magnet otherwise. It could kinda be controlled with noteblocks and giving them a specific item but even if it could be done automatically (dispensers), it would be hard to control its exact movement which is necessary for redstone (phases through walls too?) I do understand why more people want Allays because it is easier to understand its uses but it's sad to see the Glare go.

Fun fact: in the background of the underground area in the mob vote videos, there is a box labeled “TOP SECRET” and next to it is an armor stand with some bee gear on it. Could this possibly be teasing bee armor!? Mojang please!
Also, keep it up retro! I don’t necessarily agree with ur theories most of the time, tho I still am subbed and watch every upload bc i enjoy them and ur a natural at this stuff!

I'm also voting for the glare. My angry vegetable needs more love goddamit.

Hey here’s an idea let’s try to get both copper golem and allay

It’s sad how 2 of your ideas will get thrown out the window! Why can’t MOJANG just add all three mobs!?

the glow squid is a good addition for builders. When I dye my signs white, the letters are barely readable. When I add glow squid ink however, I can read the letters better.

i think the glare will be the most useful, while also bein the cutest. the copper golem will bring me emotional pain when he will eventually freeze in place (so he is limited in time and needs to be replaced every so often) and the allay can only pick dropped items so its just a fancy hopper imo.

A T T E N T I O N
For everyone that still thinks that the Allay "duplicates" items
The devs made a tweet saying that he just collects items that are already in the ground
The example wasn't the best
They said that Jeb gave a cookie to the Alley and he just collected the ones that Jeb left behind

Its gonna be rigged

It would be cool if they were underground structures/lairs like Strongholds where you can find rusted copper golems, that used to work for the ancient builders.

I can't wait for you to explore the lore of the ancient cities

Vote for alley everyone please it’s more amazing than most people realise from statements on Twitter! You can assign noteblocks to individual alleys!

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maybe the glare thinks it can scare away the mobs or maybe it's calling for the player to place light sources and likes to remain in the light until something that can place light comes by

when i saw these i screamed lore more and more the more i learned of each.

Retro gaming now long videos: deep dive
Retro gaming now small videos: small swim

I could imagine that the old oxidized Copper Golems could be found in a structure similar to what is shown in the video, a Golem factory if you may and it could be like an ancient facility created by the ancient builders.

I love how it is a Shallow Dive

In a video(I think Ibxtoycat) said that one of the developers stated that if the copper golem is chosen it could be linked with archeology