My Grain Mill Has Arrived!
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- 게시일 2023. 01. 29.
- At long last I have a new grain mill that can replace my 40-year-old mill to ensure that I can grind grains into flour for bread and breakfast cereal without interruption. We also show how we will manage with the grain mill if the grid goes down long-term.
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Thank you.
Beautiful tiles behind you by the way. Someone has great taste!
I appreciate everyone who already owns a Grain Mill informing the rest of us about the pros and cons of each model as well as the uses. No matter which model you choose they are all very expensive so the more information is better to make a purchasing decision.
We agree, totally! Jim
Totally agree!
I think I’m in about the same position as you. I can’t afford even a $400 grain mill so what do people suggest for people that really can’t afford a grain mill. What is the practicality of trying to grind it by hand? How long would it take to grind enough for a loaf of bread by hand?
I agree - I'll be looking into a hand crank grain mill. I have enough electrical things in my kitchen; so I'll look for 1 that works off-grid.
@@andreasimpson9701 Please let us know if you find something that is inexpensive Even if it is a hand crank
I’ve had the Mock Mill 200 for about 4 months, and I love being able to mill our own flour for whole grain breads. We will never go back to store bread. In my opinion, every household needs a sewing machine and a mill😊. I, too waffled between the right mill; so glad to hear your review.
And a serger.
I have the Mockmill 200 too and I love it
Check on the sewing machine. Looking at a grain mill but waffling between that and a meat grinder. I’m trying to make and can my own cat food (yes, I found a recipe, canning instructions are meat processing times) and a meat grinder would be awesome for grinding meats and bones for bone meal.
@@firequeen2194 I have meat grinder attachment for my Kitchen Aid and enjoy it. Only 2 in the family and grinds a pound of meat in about 5 minutes from 1-2” chunks. Bought a Mockmill 100 and so, so happy and having so much fun. I think I made the perfect decision for me.
Get a plug adapter and plug the grain mill into your car. Thanks Jim and Pam. Really good work you two are doing. 😊
Do you have a link or one that you can recommend I would love to be able to do this
@@carinrichardson yes
I enjoyed watching you use your new mill. I have a “Country Living “ mill which is attached to my stationary bike. It works well & I get my work out too.
Hilarious Amanda! You have definitely mastered multi tasking with attaching your mill to your stationary bike.
@@kellyname5733 need to make hay while the sun shines.
Was it hard to attach to your bike? I Waldo want to do this
@@virtuousdesignsbyyessi1717 not at all!
It is an older bike we removed the rubber tire used the metal wheel aligned the pulley wheel on the grinder my husband welded a plate to hold the grinder. We then located a belt you would on a car engine the right length installed it. I’m sorry I don’t know how to attach a picture. There are several on KRplus if you search wheat grinder bike.
Hi Pam and Jim,
A possible fix to control and contain the flour would be slide on a piece of PVC pipe on the end of the mill flour exit then get a bowl with plastic lid cover, cut hole in lid top to insert the pipe. You could raise up the mill if needed by placing it on a sturdy platform to make space for the Macgyver fix. Hope it works or sparks your imagination to find a solution. Take care.
Thanks, we pretty much did what you have suggested for our MacGyver fix. Now, we have much more control over the flour flow. Jim
@@RoseRedHomestead What size of pvc pipe is the solution? Thanks to you both!
Never, ever would I use PVC pipe w/ food, as it is the most toxic plastic man has ever created. Google that for more info.
@@eve54ut it would be used to direct the flour into the bowl and not for storage. Hate to break it to you but pvc pipe has been used since 1990’s to replace copper pipeline in both residential and industrial applications for distribution of drinking water.
@@juneroberts214 Clarification, I assume you are referring to the Flex (PVC) Pipe that has been used in some houses in plumbing in recent years, primarily because it is cheaper, but certainly not better, nor safe. Copper is still the best and the safest pipe for drinking water. Unfortunately, it's being bought up and stockpiled by another country. Just because PVC is being used, doesn't mean it is safe. Even so, the hazards of using PVC are easily available to all. With a quick search, you will find that PVC pipe leaches the toxic chemicals, Polyvinyl Chloride & Phthalates, into drinking water. I do not know how much of these chemicals would be released into the millled flour after it is milled, but I would not ever use it to pass food across frequently, because it obviously contains these toxic chemicals. See quotes and link below on the health hazards associated with PVC pipe.
"A study printed in the "Journal of Environmental Engineering" found that, in homes built before 1977, installed PVC pipes were found to leach polyvinyl chloride into drinking water at levels above the maximum allowed contaminant level. Levels were tested at dead-end pipe segments, where water stagnates. The study recommends installation of manual or automatic flush valves to reduce concentrations."
"The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) notes that PVC contains phthalates, which can leach from plastics and, in animal studies, demonstrated the capacity to cause liver and reproductive system damage. The CDC warns that short-term exposure to phthalates shows little toxicity in adults; animal studies indicate that continuous exposure to phthalates is toxic, even at low doses. Infants, in particular, do not process phthalates well."
"Newer plastic plumbing components are marked to show that they meet the current standards for potable water. Compliant pipe is stamped with the codes NSF-PW or NSF-61, ensuring that these pipes meet the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) standards for potable or drinking water. This standard evaluates the contaminants or impurities of materials that come in contact with drinking water."
If you have a choice like Stainless Steel or other non-PVC pipe, why would you risk your family's health by choosing a known toxic leaching plastic? I took the time to comment, because I really like this channel and respect the way this couple honestly presents information to us all. Your suggestion seemed incongruent to their channel's overall philosophy.
www.livestrong.com/article/125022-health-risks-plastic-water-pipes/
Wow - so much to take in.
I’m on the verge of buying one.
If you do, let us know how it goes. Jim
@@RoseRedHomestead 🤔
You don’t look like a Jim!
Unfortunately- your lovely mill is out of stock on Amazon, but I’m really grateful for the buying guide.
I’ll keep you posted 🙂
Have the Mock mill. Totally in love with it owned it for three years now! Would never give it up and should it ever goes down I will purchase another one. It grinds very fine it will stand up agains store bought any day of the year. Haven’t bought a bagged flour since this arrived at my door. Just love it! To each his own love the stone milling
I admit this is easier to adjust but I’ve learned how on the mock mill as for dust I don’t worry with that tiny bit but a towel over the spout and bowl works well. One tip, I found is if you turn on mill first before adding grain and not turn off till hopper is empty is easier on the mntor. And yes we bought a smaller generator to operate it if need arises. Happy milling. Oh it mills dent corn beautifully.
Same.
I have the Mockmill 100 and it grinds extremely fine. I just use it quite often and love it!
I have a mockmill 100 and it does not grind extremely fine even on the lowest setting. You could not even think about making pastry flour with that machine and I have been grinding my hard white winter wheat 3 times on the finest setting just to get a flour with mediocre texture, it was a Christmas gift this year. So I am reluctant to send it back, but if I can get my money back it will be returned.
SO good to know. Mine just arrived 3 days ago and having fun. Bought a Nutrimill Harvest but returned it since it glazed up a couple times trying to get fine flour. Lifting it and dumping our the berries and flour was a huge mess and So heavy for me. But the main problem I had was the dial; too difficult for me to adjust. Liked this KoMo but liked the look and reviews of Mockmill 100 better. And takes up very little counter space.
Do you set it just as the stones are starting to rub together (setting 1 for me and have not made any adjustments) to get very fine flour? TIA
I love my NutriMill Classic. It gets flour fine enough for us and doesn't make a mess, and is so easy to clean. I also grind buckwheat groats for fabulous buckwheat flour. Thanks for showing so many options that work for many budgets.
Thanks for sharing! Jim
I also have the Nutrimill Classic and have been very happy with it. The MockMill is definitely prettier (and I do like pretty) but I store it in our pantry anyway so that didn't matter.
I own a Nutrimill also...it is similar to your komo..uses stones to grind the kernels...I researched quite a bit, at the time, but was so new to the process it was still a shot in the dark. I'm glad I went with one that does super fine grinds with stones. It is aesthetically nice to look at to.
@@sonyareeder7855 - The NutriMill (classic) is an impact grinder. You can tell because it sounds like a vacuum cleaner when it's operating. I have one, and it makes flour (only) from smaller dry grains. Unfortunately, the small slots where the grain goes into the grinding chamber are too small for corn.
@@g-whiz286 yes the classic is but not the harvest. Which is stone grind.
I love that it has a wooden hopper and what looks like wooden sides. Excellent to have beautifully turned wood rather than plastic. 💜
Just for info the mock mill may look plastic but the manufacturer states it’s made from” liquid wood” now what that is I don’t know bit it’s not plastic
@@mamabird2434 You seem to think I was referring to something else as not as good as it was plastic.
I wasn't.
@@TheCanniScot not really just didn’t know if people knew it wasn’t plastic sorry if it came across wrong sure didn’t mean it to
@Mama bird No probs. 😀💜
Just toss a dish towel over the Grinder while using and will keep the flour dust from going all over.
I got a mockmill a couple months ago. Never going back to bagged bread!!!!
My Mockmill 200 is awesome. It grinds fine.
I purchased the Mock Mill 100 after investigating many mills over a period of time. I am absolutely 100 % happy with it. It’s attractive enough to leave on my counter at all times. As I watched the end of your video I could see how fine the flour was coming out of the shoot. It looked exactly how the Mock Mill setting on fine produces to a very fine flour. I haven’t used another setting yet but will be soon. I want to figure out which setting to use to make cream of wheat.
I am so glad you made this video as I have been going back and forth as you described between the same grain mills you did. I didn't realize the warranty differences. That's really a big deal. However, I recently purchased a KoMo oat flaker and am extremely pleased with it, so I was kind of leaning toward that brand of grain mill too. You just confirmed that I'm heading in the right direction. Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom on so many things. You have made me a better canner & dehydrator. I appreciate you more than I can say.
What made you decide to purchase the KoMo flaker mill over the Messerschmidt (FGM) flaker mill?
Love the new blouse! As usual your explanation of how the mill works was fantastic! Thanks!
Yes! Pam looked lovely today! 😊
Use a taller bowl under the dispenser to reduce the flour dust
My mock mill doesn’t seem to make as big of a mess
I guess you’ve hit on why I see so little taller bowl! Never thought of that I just have always used as tall as will fit it. 🙂
I really like the looks of your new mill. Here is what I did at the beginning of the pandemic before the prices went up. I bought 2 mills. I decided to get the Mockmill 100 instead of the 200. Took the price difference between the two models and used that money to purchase a manual mill that has the capability to attach a motor. I now have a backup mill in case the grid goes down. However, the manual mill requires a lot of muscle power to grind enough grain for bread. In an extended grid down situation I would have to recruit helpers. Lol
It makes you wonder if the calories expended would be compensated by the bread.
What a beautiful machine!
I made a comment about My Wonder Mill. I have been very happy with it, however, I was also
influenced by price. These tools are extremely expensive so if you're deciding which one to buy, determine how much you will pay but always get a machine that accomplishes everything you need it to do.
I have this exact same mill and absolutely LOVE it!!
I get wonderful fine flour with the Mio, I’ve never had to sift out any of the bran, it’s ground so fine it doesn’t cause any problem.
Maybe try a deeper bowl with higher sides that rises up closer to the flour outlet and that may help the messiness. I haven’t had the messy issue that you have in this video.
In my milling group, some people didn’t realize that to set it on the most fine grind, turn on the mill and then turn the hopper to the fine setting until you hear the stones touch together, then back off one click. That is the perfect setting for a very fine grind.
Also, always have the mill turned on before adding anything to the hopper or the stones can bind up.
I grind wheat on medium to make cream of wheat, and grind dent corn on the most course setting, the. Grind that on medium for cornmeal, since I like a little grit texture for cornbread.
I recently got some buckwheat groats and will grind it for pancakes.
If the grid goes down, my husband is creative enough that I have confidence he could hook this up to one of our bicycles and we would use pedal power to run it. 😂
I’ve had my Komo for 8 years and it works like a charm! The flour dust is reduced by using a larger bowl that fits under the spout and placing a dish towel over it.
Good to know it works with the Bluetti which we now have thanks to your recommendations. It should work with our mock mill but, I haven't tried that yet. I've been making sour dough bread over the weekend and we had some for breakfast this morning. Congratulations on your new mill! Enjoy. I'm looking forward to experimenting with some new recipes. Fun Stuff to do in the winter when it's cold outside. I don't mind turning up the oven to 400*F.
Let us know if your Bluetti powers your MockMill. We have number of bread making videos we have made over the years. I was in Omaha for a number of years and understand how cold it gets. Stay warm! Jim
@@RoseRedHomestead what size Bluetooth is this?*Bluetti
Thank you so much for all of your hard work in bring us videos of different things that we can try. I want to say that I greatly appreciate the fact that you take into account that not everyone has the equipment that you have and that you try and give alternatives.
I’m so glad you have discovered Pleasant Hill Grains! I’ve had my KoMo Classic for over 10 years and it looks & functions just like brand new. Your KoMo Mio looks like a new & more affordable model! When I grind my flour, I drape a thick tea towel around the spout & bowl to keep the dust down. If I’m grinding a lot, I take the stone grinders out to cool down ever so often. Also, mine runs a lot quieter with the lid on the hopper (or maybe a thick towel?) For grid down situations, I’ve been considering the Wonder Junior Deluxe for hand cranking flour, it’s gotten good reviews, and can grind oily seeds. Pleasant Hill’s descriptions of different flour types & attributes are wonderfully informative, imo. Also, while their grains are more expensive than some, they come packaged & sealed for long term storage- if that’s important to you.
It is great that your KoMo still works like new. Yes, we found a way to reduce and control the dust, too (at least), for right now. We may have to modify it later, depending upon performance. We are doing more research on a hand-crank mill, too. I am sure, if we get one, we will do a video. Thanks for watching our channel. Jim
Have fun with your new mill. You will wonder how you lived without it.
Very carefully, Jim
That's a Fantastic Mill.👍
You could use the Grain tub you have there, open the flap lid on an empty one, & put it over the Mill spout, it should catch the Flour with minimal mess.
TFS RRH, take care, & keep busy everyone. ♥️🙂🐶
I so appreciate your research Pam thank you both for all you do for us😊 I have a Mockmill which I purchased in 2020 and I love it but although we do have a gas generator just in case I would like a hand crank mill.
I concur. I’m always on the lookout for manual kitchen appliances just in case. I do have 3 portable power stations but nothing like the Bluetti. I should’ve just bit the bullet and bought the Bluetti but I wasn’t sure how much power I needed. For off grid camping, I never need the 3 power stations but it’s backup for emergencies. I also look for anything solar powered. 😉
I have two grain mills, Komo Fidibus and MockMill 200 Professional. I did spend about $1200 on both, but for me it is money well spent! I like both of my mills and use them daily! I no longer use store bought flour. Enjoy your new Komo as you will love it more each day!
It sounds like you might have the Diamant? That’s the one I’m thinking of purchasing. What impressed me is how finely it grinds flour.
Do tell! Do you recommend both? Any pros?
Cons?
@@virtuousdesignsbyyessi1717, my preference would be Komo overall because it does a slightly better job at grinding the wheat kernel into a finer flour than Mockmill. My dream stone mill would be the Komo Professional, which I was unaware existed when I purchased my Komo a year ago. At this point, I cannot justify adding a third stone mill, but it is tempting.
Thank you for kind help
I have a Country Living Grain Mill now, and I used to have a Mll-Rite. I love them both, but I love the Country Living Grain Mill defaulting to be used as a hand crank. It farces a little extra workout every other day when I bake.
I just bought one and man oh man is it tiring. I have it before I even got a cup 😂
@@virtuousdesignsbyyessi1717 If I want finer flour, I grind it once as a "cracked grain" level and then again as fine as I want. To me. it feels like it goes faster and easier overall.
Thank you Pam for all time you put into your videos. They are much appreciated! I can't wait for your off grid power options.
I have a Nutrimill that is 10 years old. I absolutely love it, but yours is so nice in red!
Great information, I have never thought about grinding grain until recently.
Glad it was helpful!
That's an awesome warranty. I own several different mills and will certainly keep this one in mind. So glad you shared your great purchase!
Red is my favorite color too !
If you have a plastic "dust" cover for your KitchenAid mixer bowl, maybe grind the grain into that with the cover on. Looking forward to your reviews of the hand powered mills.
Awesome
Congratulations 👍 a great Mill you bought. With my Mockmill 200 I don't do much things due to my health status at the moment. I had 2 brain bleedings and this makes things complicated. But I enjoy it very much to watch your Videos. Greetings from Germany
I have a Country Living grain mill, I took an old Kellogg's (tupperware type) cereal container and cut it to fit around my mill so the flour doesn't get everywhere as it leaves the machine.
thank you Pam for all your great research in sourcing a new grain mill. During the pandemic, I also purchased a wondermill and while it served my purpose, I really dislike the noise level and two part chamber as it is cumbersome and bulky. I just purchased a Komo Mill and can't wait for it to arrive and add to my food preparedness equipment
I appreciate your research and then sharing your choices with us. I was leaning towards the Mock Mill 100, but now I will look into the KOMO for comparison. It was good to see how well it functions with the Bluetti, as I have also been saving to purchase a solar charger. This has been most helpful. Thank you!
I have the Nutrimill and it works great! I can get close to regular gritz and I can make corn bread with the corn I grind in it. To prevent flour flying, try getting a plumbing elbow or something similar to direct the flour directly into the bowl instead of on the slant.
Good idea about the elbow.
Hello there. I bought the Komo Mio as a christmas present 🎁 season greetings from Germany ❤
You explained it wonderfully. Spot on. Thanks, Rose. Komo is my choice too.
Please use the lid to lid to shield some of the noise. My Mockmill 200 Professional is guaranteed for 12 years. However, I purchased the Mockmill a year ago.
I have the “baby blue” and the mockmill 100. It shows on the bluetti display that the mill is drawing 600 watts while running even though the mill is rated for 360 watts (the mill draws what it’s rated for according to my killawatt power meter). All of which is interesting but The bluetti does manage to run the mockmill just fine though which is nice. Your mill was drawing extra power when you turned it on (the display spiked to 700 watts) because it was under load with grain in the hopper, if you start the mill empty then add grain you should have a better chance of it running with the smaller battery backup.
Edit: I should also say: be careful with dust from the mill getting sucked into the bluetti’s cooling fan!
I often grind flaxseed in my VitaMix
I grind flaxseed and poppyseed in my electric coffee grinder.
@@bernadettespilchen3129 As long as we keep the seed oils out of the mill we can get around it. 😃
With an income of only 1600 $ a month any mill is out of the question for me but I do have a few granite rocks outside in the yard that will have to do.
I have the Jackery 1000 "solar generator". As an exercise, I used it to power my NutriMill Classic mill and make a batch of fresh whole wheat flour. Then I used it to power my old Panasonic bread machine to make a loaf of bread (from the fresh flour). When the loaf was finished, I still had 21% charge left in the Jackery. Just enough to run my CPAP (using the 12 volt port) for a night before needing to be recharged. If its sunny, I can get it fully recharged in one day with my two 100 Watt solar panels.
Thank you for the review. I have a Grainmaker grain mill that I love. It is a workhorse. However, I do not have it attached to a motor and as I’ve gotten older it is becoming a little more difficult for me to use. I will say that the Grainmaker is capable of grinding very fine flour and making nut butters. It has a lifetime guarantee for original owner and is so well made it could be passed down to your
grandchildren. Pro’s and con’s to both types of machines. Grainmaker is perfect for grid down but not for slight built women with arthritis. I will seriously look at the one you have reviewed as a replacement for mine or else break down and get a motor for mine.
Thanks for sharing the information on this mill. Good to know. We have a WonderMill, which we have had for several years, and it currently meets our needs. However, I appreciate your sharing information on today’s video. Pam, you and Jim mean so much to everyone in this community. We know that what you present to us is valid and well thought out. I appreciate you both!
Did you know that Wolfgang Mock designed the Komo Mill and the Mockmill!?
Thanks for the information. Jim
I just ordered The Grain Mill (manual) on Amazon since it was finally on sale. It has a optional motor available.
I am hoping someday to own a stone grain mill such as yours.
For now I'll try the one that's on the way to me and enjoy seeing yours! 🙂
😮. It’s on sale? Yay!
@@firequeen2194 Yes, it was 80 instead of the regular 119.
On my mockmill lino it says to turn the machine on before adding the grain, or the stones may jam up. Better check your instructions. And, congratulations looks beautiful!
I have used Pleasant Hill Grains for years. I bought my Kitchen Assistant from them over a decade ago. They were very helpful way back then, and I have found them to be helpful recently. I'm glad you are posting information about them. I hope you enjoy your new toy!
I have a Mockmill and love it. Pleasanthillgrain is so helpful.
It took me forever to choose but after lots of reviews and back and forth, I selected the Komo from Pleasant Hill Grains and its wonderful.
Thank you for sharing your research on the grain mills, I very much appreciate it. Also I would definitely be interested in your research on generators. I am trying to prepare, but I don’t want to make a mistake with our hard earned money….we just retired.
Congratulation on your retirement. We too, do not want to make mistakes on our hard earned money. We have several videos on Bluetti power stations. Jim
Thank you for sharing 💞💞💞
See if you can find a square cambro container that fits under the spout. That would cover most of the base, and pop a lid on the container, and you are all set. I think if you get the spout down into the container as much as possible, it will help a lot.
tfs this with us!! ❤
I absolutely love your videos! So informative! Thank you!
I love Red! It’s one of my favorite colors
Thank you for this information.
Thank you for all your careful research, you are such a great resource!
Thanks so much. I appreciate your time, and effort in educating us.
Very informative. Much appreciated!
This was very helpful Pam! Thank you!
I love my Komo mill. It was an investment, but worth it. I grind directly into a ziplock bag to minimize the dust.
Thank you so so much for reviewing this. I have been doing some research for one as well.
Thank you for this review!
Awesome video!
Thank you! A very helpful video!
Thank you!! I’ve been looking and couldn’t even get near to deciding. This will do everything I could imagine wanting 🙂. Great explanation!
Thank you for your wisdom
You are welcome. Jim
Looks like lots fun
Congratulations on your new grain mill!
What great information! Thank you. I have a grain mill on my prayer list so this was very helpful.
I do as well and a meat grinder.
As always a pleasure to watch you. You always provide so much great information. I love your channel ❤
Some day I will get me a grain mill, so thank you for this helpful info!
Dry impressed❤❤❤
Thank you!
Thanks so much for answering my question about during grid down. I’m still considering a non-electric mill so keep me updated! 😊
Thanks for the tecommendation. I can always trust it’s well researched.
Thank you soooo much for your research and I formation! Also for the demo of using it with the off grid power source
Thank you for the demonstration - I do buy medium coarse bulgar wheat to use in morning hot breakfast cereal and pancake or waffle mix, in soups and some gravy as a thickener and in some salad dressing, too. This looks great to get the exact grind you need in the kitchen.
Thank you so much!
Thank you Pam!
You are so welcome! Jim
I have a hand grain mill, no electricity needed, just some muscles!! LOL
Thank you Pam. A good choice.
Thank you 🦋🌺💖
Yay Pam! Thank you for your info
You are so welcome! Jim
This is Awesome! I wanted to purchase one for my daughter..
Thank you for all you do for us❤️
Sounds like a great choice! I have the Mock Mill 200and love it. It will mill very fine but I don't know if it goes as fine. The longer warranty is a great deal. Enjoy!
Fantastic video! Answered everything I needed. Thank you!!! Going to order same one. Love the Red!!!
You are both so helpful
Thankyou so much for all your help Best Wishes ❤
Our pleasure! Thanks for your comment.
Love your channel ❤️
You make things very easy to understand and see.
Thankyou so much for all your work and effort! Stay Safe guys! 🖖💛
You are so welcome.
I love my Komo and it looks great on counter!
Thank you so very much for giving us the information you obtained. This saved me making a purchase that I may have regretted.
We love our Mock Mill 200 - have used it now for well over a year and no issues. We too can power it with a solar generator, nice that you mentioned that capability. We started sifting our ground flour using a #40 mesh, having ground the grains on a 0.5 setting (approximately between 0-1). After sifting, the flour is almost the same as store bought all purpose -- we then add back some of what was sifted out, based on the type of bread we are baking. QUESTION: What are your thoughts on sifting? 100% Wheat takes some of the family a bit of getting use to it... we found sifting out a portion seems to mimic store flour better and the family likes this better. Would love to hear your thoughts! Thank you!