[Choreography Video] SEVENTEEN(세븐틴) - My My
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- 게시일 2020. 07. 03.
- [Choreography Video] SEVENTEEN(세븐틴) - My My
#SEVENTEEN #세븐틴
#헹가래 #Henggarae
#MyMy
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The choreography is so seventeen.. literally no one will think to make a choreo like this. It’s like a journey to how seventeen is like when they started to where they are right now, who would think to add campfire and play games to their choreos, only seventeen..
Mino Song ❤️❤️❤️ yes
True
Yess that's one of the reason why i love them
Ikr!! I was watching and thinking "this choreo SCREAMS seventeen"
They are very unique and creative ♡ so proud
LEFT & RIGHT - done
MYMY - done
comon' Pledis don't be shy, drop FEARLESS now
Yes !!
I will die
I can't wait for that
is it just me who see the short clip of the dance practice? I forgot where I saw that but I think its in the opening of their live at their first performance (when they also perform Fearless) at their exact comeback date, JUNE 22, as I remember they're dancing Fearless on BigHit's dance practice room (where BTS and Gfriend also practices) it's just a whole white wall
Yess
which other kpop group has an entire campfire, ship, waves, and games in the middle of their choreography? SVT's dancing isn't just synchronized, they tell stories through their moves and that's Seventeen's brand
I didn't get that dance move was campfire until seeing ur comment!!
They do everything!
Ikr!! While watching the ready to love dance it looked it like it was missing something. "Interaction" was what I concluded was missing in that routine. They really tell stories. But I couldn't tell how their previous choreos were interactive. They use the members as props and interact with each other to create a whole setting. But with Rtl it was just them dancing. Still a great choreo but it lacked the story telling. Your comment just helped me gather my thoughts haha.
and lamp posts!!
I didnt notice this!! Thank you for explaining!!
I have to be honest with you guys. After staning svt, it felt so new to me whenever I see groups that consist of 4-7 members. It felt so empty watching them because I was used to svt having 13 members. Also, I felt weird whenever I see some idol groups dance that weren’t in sync. I’m sorry tho, maybe svt has wholly dominated me.
because 17 was your home
After stanning svt, I never stan any other groups lmao 😂
S.cóups trash Omg! Same!
@@moshihoshi when scoups said "when u become a carat,then there is no end" he didn't lie lmao
I’m a baby carat.. Guess that I’ll be trapped inside Svt’s world from now on
Hoshi in normal days : I'm tiger.
Hoshi in this clip : Let me be pororo.
whEEEZE
ren OMG I CANt BREATh
At first glance i literally thought those were wig pigtails sksksk
and i hate myself cuz i can't unsee it anymore- HELPP
LmaOOOoo
Right? Right? He looked so cute with the hat i couldn't look away for one second 🥺🙈💕
Vernon was not kidding when he said he threw all his colorful shirts.
i'm gonna cry again 😭
Why did he throw the colourful shirts?
@@amnieimtiaz3800 not sure. He said he's trying to get rid of his colorful shirts (some maybe not all). He said it in svt MMTG part 2.
RIP to tie dye era vernon. Carats will remember you well
i wanna cry :
I just love how at 2:33 they're casually sitting in a cult formation while sacrificing Coups
It's actually a campfire but okay 😂
CULT LMAO KSHHSIWBDHDHSBAM HELPPP--
lol I can't look at that campfire normally anymore
Dayum nice viewpoint XD
@@yashwithashetty3868 I truly didn't know it was a campfire until the first comment I- ah I don't know...
someone please tell me im not the only one who cries while listening to this song... this choreo makes them seem like a true family and that hurts 😭
Omg I thought I was the only one who cried like a baby during 'my my' and espeically watching them dance. 😭😭
Why does it hurt though.....? They may not be family by blood but they are close enough to be called family
Vernon in dark concepts: Tie dye
Vernon in fun concepts: black head to toe
I already miss tie dye Vernon era 😭
the duality of vernon
@@noybass4361 me too
@@noybass4361 same
he said he'll be cutting down on the colour from now on :(
I would like to appreciate Hoshi’s sharp and precise moves here.
Yesss I was stuck watching him ❤️
The way he moves is always so captivating, this song really suits him, most songs/dances do but there is something about this dance..I can't explain it, but the vibe fits him so well here.
I adore him so much..
Yeeees always
Yeoksiiii uri hoshi
His moves are always sharp. ❤️
He's my favorite in HIT 😍
AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO GOT STRESSED OUT WHEN THERE WAS NO ADLIB AT 2:48. I WAS EXPECTING SOMETHING LIKE “MUSIC-BANK” “PEP-SI” “INKI-GAYO” OR MAYBE “SEVEN-TEEN”
Me too :))
Who screamed "AAAAW!"?
@@BRUH-cq2qm it's usually woozi who did that
@@BRUH-cq2qm I think that was seokmin
WHENEVER I LISTEN TO MYMY I SING PEP-SI OR INKI-GAYO WITHOUT NOTICING
thx carats•ɞ•]
0:14 snap shoot
0:17 home
0:21 clap
0:27 mansae
0:37 don't wanna cry
0:42 pretty u
0:43 fallin' flower
1:08 mansae
1:36 hit
1:38 snap shoot
1:40 hit and getting closer
1:44 [독:fear]
1:47 boomboom
1:50 두더지 잡기..?
1:53 pretty u and heaven
2:00 thanks
2:05 mansae
2:31 후라이팬 놀이
2:36 공공칠빵
2:39 인디언밥
2:49 our dawn is hotter than day
3:10 our dawn is hotter than day
Its amazing
Omg, ur comment should be pinned! It’s amazing!
Hää i do Not gett it.... sorryyy i qm a Baby carattr
@@sumanbs3646 the steps they’re dancing at the timestamps are choreo’s from their older songs
@@jacintavanhulst uiii thanksss
“is there anything carats can’t do?”
carats: we caN’T folloW SEVENTEEN CHOREOS-
@@christinealmira7679 i feel youuu~~
True
@@christinealmira7679 thisss
omgg accurate xD
we can't str3am and v0te-
Can we talk about Jeonghan jumping on to baby Dino's back? That was so cute 🥺
It so cutee 😭💖
Exactlyyy
YEAHH
oh when was that 🥺
@@littlekatie 0:59
I like Seungkwans outfit here, it suits him
Our Boo can wear a trash bag and still look good 😍
Svt is the only group who can dance so serious yet enjoying it at the same time. The dance with their heart so the the viewers can feel their sincerely in their choreography. Plus their songs are always so good
Vernon during dark concepts- *t i e d y e*
Vernon during fresh concepts- *b l a c k*
THIS
IS GOLD
BAHAHAHAHAHHA
deadass
he needs to make it _balanced_
Seventeen's choreographies are one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen
I can preach that. Beautiful and satisfying
PERIODT
People who aren't Stanning them are missing out alot
ура, хоряга
Their synchronization is really satisfying 💖
This performance makes people smile.
OH IT SURE DOES
IKR
i- how did you know i was smiling 😭
YESYESYESYESYESYESY
Especially the campfire part and when they zoom in to DK's smile. It just melts everyone's heart.
the reason why i think seventeen is one of korea's best dancers are because they seem to be really having fun while displaying their choreographs and i think that's what makes them amazing
I like that while everyone is wearing calm and neutral colors, DK is in a lovely yellow shirt. I guess the sun never stops shining! ✨ ☀
YO PERIODT 😤
My first thought when i saw this video...he is totally a sunshine😍
Meanwhile Vernon and Minghao: My my my my my way~
His smile is everything for carats 💛
You can interpret it very cute. 😙💕
WE'LL WAIT FOR THE FEARLESS CHOREOGRAPHY
i think they need to call all artist in pledis to help them dance that choreo
Yeah I wanna see them yeet that guy
Hi carat please vote seventeen on idol champ :) fighting!
@@Sapphireemberss the bald guy
Yes i wait
되게 재미있고 여유로워 보인다 세븐틴 멤버 하면 엄청 재미있을 것같은 느낌ㅋㅋㅋ 다 흩어져서 춤출 때 맨 뒤 멤버까지도 춤선 이쁜 거 보고 또 반하고.. 가사도 힐링되고 특히 승관이 음색에 잘 버무러짐
0:55
어떻게 이런 안무를,,,,, 파도와 배를 표현하다니 진짜 말도 안 되잖아 ㅜㅜ
0:58
각도까지 돌려주는 이 친절함 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
1:53
이제 어떻게 감탄해야 될지도 모르겠어 얘들아
2:00
여기 이 부분 안무 너무 좋아 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
2:30
살다살다 안무에 아이엠그라운드 게임 들어간 거까지 보네요 ㅜㅜ 그래 이게 내 가수다
2:35
헤이! 헤이!
2:46
이렇게 예쁘게 모였다가
2:50
이렇게 에너지 넘치게 흩어지는 거 희열 최고야~ㅜㅜ
개인적인 포인트만 집었으나 솔직히 처음부터 끝까지 하나의 작품입니다.
우연으로 혹시 보게 되신 분들 있다면 이제부터 캐럿이세요 다들 반했죠?
아닌 사람 있으면 저한테 와봐용 영상 몇 개로 친절하게 입덕 도와드려요~^^
세븐틴 역시는 역시다ღღ
💎❤️
theres literally nothing seventeen can’t do their dancing skills are top notch
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@@jimininbusan2630 what are u doing?
@@hanniebae0.0 what
@@nailabela603 helping my Friend channel
Cuz friends are everything 😎😘😍
There's one thing they can't do. They can't make even one bad song
rainbow vernon will be missed😞😞😞 pray for him yall he aint dead he’s just going through emo phase
Is this true? Why?
😭😭
:"((
MeLorain121 he said he’s trying to stop wearing colors now
@@chwe1363 what why
The choreography is very creative ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ they’re not only dancing, but they’re also telling story through the choreo, makes it fun to watch n not boring
and they're having fun ^^
OK BUT WE ARENT TALKING ABOUT THE WAY WOOZI WENT TO SIT DOWN AT 2:28 HSAKDALDAWJDLA OMG LOVE HIM
Only seventeen can make their choreo look easy... they even put games into choreo..... Seventeen is my aesthetic.
indeed
The best thing in every Seventeen's choreo is when they play/enjoy their dance
I love how Seventeen choreo does not seem messy and look so neat. They have this kind of manner when they exit/enter the dance. With that many members, they utilize it and arrange it so it does not look messy when one move from one position to other position. Sometimes you dont even realize when one member exit or one members enter,that how neat their performance is.
what i love with seventeen's choreography is that they don't JUST DANCE with the beat, they story tell with it they show the story of the song they give us a story, they tell us the story by dancing to it. that's what makes them unique. also they ain't gonna be know as theatre kids of kpop and kpop performance powerhouse for no excellent reason.
*seventeen posted something*
Me: I AM SPEED
Very speedeu, very speed
-lee dokyeom
0:43 its fallin' flower in reverse
how did I never notice
edit: the lyrics are literally "I meet myself in the mirror and blossom a new me" and that's why they reference to fallin' flower 🥺my heart
Ohh f@#$ i literally got goosebumps
😲😯소름~
Whatttt ,😵😵
yooo thanks for this it just makes this so much more meaningful 😭💛
Wooaaahh!! I just noticed 🤐🤐🤐
am i the only one who noticed dino's little mistake at 3:06? omg his face after thattt such a cutiee
This is the happiest, loveliest and the most aesthetic choreography ever.
*let’s be honest, we all needed that fading part at the end of dk trying to kiss woozi*
Wait why does it say your comment was 16 minutes ago and the video 13?
MinTaeGuk hollup- 💀
Singing skill + visual + talent for dancing = svt.
S - seventeen is talented group
E - ever i had met
V - visual? Seventeen have it all
E - energy? They pull it all out
N - no one can beat seventeen dancing skill
T - Together carat we stay will seventeen
E - even seventeen in tough and thin and thank you seventeen because always
E - entertain carats with their song and jokes
N - no one cant beat sassy song svt
S - specialized
V - Videotape
T - Technology
@@ilmaflorenstein8258 true
@@ilmaflorenstein8258 lol dino
the level of synchronization is (chef's kiss)
The best thing about Seventeen's choreographies is how they can go from Woozi using The8th arms as a steering wheel to a perfectly synchronized dance break flawlessly.
Q: how hard do you want your choreo?
Seventeen: yes
THEY ARE LEGENDS, SOME OF YOU THINK THAT EASY BUT YOU'R TOTALLY WRONG
Exactly
SEVENTEEN’S CHOREOGRAPHY WILL ALWAYS BE THE BEST IN THIS WORLD. PERIOD.
true
you said what you said!😌✋🏼
Agree💕👍
This true❤
TRUEEEEEE
0:43 is that the backwards version of the Fallin Flower choreography???
Yes
I NOTICED THAT TOO
Yesssss because the lyrics in this part has the word flower in it, except it’s not a falling flower but a blooming flower! “Make the flower of the new me bloom”
Wow I really should've stanned them earlier it feels even more impressive that they're one of the most (if not the most) coordinated kpop groups even with this many members, and now seeing them as their own individuals, knowing each of their jokes, personalities and talent just feels so amazing!!!!
I still can’t unhear the “MUSIC BANK” lol. They’re such pure people UWU
AND INKIGAYO
yeah. i even sing it as of it was included in the lyrics. omg
AND PEPSI TOO
I stopped watching seventeen moments to watch seventeens my my choreography:>
Same here
@@muyinats4878 we love them too much
meanwhile I stopped watching nct + seventeen moments for this :D
Same haha
@@izzatul5635 caratzen:)
So I came back to watch this for the millionth time... you know, the usual and I realized that at 0:43 they do the same move as in Fallin’ Flower but in reverse, going up
Like flying flower now instead of falling flower 😭
LMAOOOOO
Seventeen seriously never disappoints. Each time, their choreo gets 10x better. Y’all work so hard, I’m so proud to be a CARAT! I love how they have fun for each choreo. #1 kpop group with the best synchronization!
1:00 There we have Seungkwan and Wonwoo pulling the ropes, Hoshi and S.Coups rowing the boat, Woozi controlling The8 the steering wheel, Vernon and Jeonghan viewing and the other four making waves.
Only Dino: carrying Jeonghan
"So...SO GENIUS"
-Boo Seungkwan
aRe yOu kIdDiNg mE? kImBaP-i kIdDiNg??
CARATS: How much do you want to spoil us?
*SEVENTEEN: YES! 'CAUSE WE LOVE YOU*
세븐틴한테서만 느껴지는 특유의 청량감이 너무 좋아...🥺
Seventeen always different choreographies and that is the reason why their choreo always special to watch. i really dont know how they can make every choreo has its own specific, no choreo will be the same
When you’re so early that there are no fun comments to read😂
😂😂
thats the fact ⊙ω⊙
Ur profile lol Ten
Hi carat please vote seventeen on idol champ :) fighting!
😂😂
And here my mind goes:
BRR BA
When that lemon thingy did that in the MV I died 💀
올해 들으면서 가장힘이되는 노래에요 다들 이 길까지 엄청난 노력이있었겠죠 ㅠㅠ
their sync is no joke
I love how they ACTUALLy use their numbers as an advantage. Like who eles is able to tell this much story with detail through dance WITH ONLY THE MEMBERS.
I’m the one who was thinking there’s something missing at 2:48 then I was like oh “Music Bank”.
hahaha now everytime i hear the song my brain will automatically add DK's adlib and switch it around with Inkigayo too
Dont forget Pepsi
SAMEEEEE
My mind said "Inkigayo~" 🤣
I always add, "Inki..gayo"
honestly one of the most beautiful choreographies I’ve ever seen. the theme, the storytelling, the song, their moves waaah just beautiful!!!
0:26 I literally just realized Seungkwan says something to Dino and he turns around with a smile on his face.
Yes and at 2:25 Dino says something to Seungkwan too
[thx carats•ɞ•]
0:14 snap shoot
0:17 home
0:21 clap
0:27 mansae
0:37 don't wanna cry
0:42 pretty u
0:43 fallin' flower
1:08 mansae
1:36 hit
1:38 snap shoot
1:40 hit and getting closer
1:44 [독:fear]
1:47 boomboom
1:50 두더지 잡기..?
1:53 pretty u and heaven
2:00 thanks
2:05 mansae
2:31 후라이팬 놀이
2:36 공공칠빵
2:39 인디언밥
2:49 our dawn is hotter than day
3:10 our dawn is hotter than day
와 진짜 세븐틴 ....천재구나.....
Wow... I just noticed that
this is so genuis like omg i thought i was the only one with the odihtd one but sis u got everything covered
Wow
Wow you noticed all of that!? Omg
Even without the award, we know that the best dance performance group title was made for them. Every group deserve it but every fandom can agree that Seventeen is the most deserving. Before most idols started partaking in the composition of their songs, Seventeen already does it --- not to impress but because they needed to. And people can't deny, they dance with all their heart on every performance and sing with their soul. They pour their emotions and experiences on the lyrics they write and Woozi and Bumzu and some of the members do their best to give justice to their well-thought words. Hoshi do not simply creates their choreographies, he thoughtfully *innovates* and make sure that the message their songs are trying to show are delivered through their dance moves. Every group is great but no one makes me prouder and happier than these 13 men.
*Seventeen Jjang!*
I completely agree but let's not forget that the other members of the Performance Unit also contribute to choreography (even though I know Soonyoung is the primary contributer) ^^
WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT HOW CUTE WOOZI IS AT 1:00 DOING THE THING, I AM SO DEVISTATED HE IS SO CUTE I AM CRYING ACTUAL TEARS
2:30 I just realized jihancheol + vernon is a bonfire. It took me months to realize.
Vernon really wasn't kidding when he said he was getting rid of color. In both dance practices he was wearing all black
:""
But why tho
I'm sad 🥺
👁👄👁
In radio appearance and in tiktok with his friends too. Black outfits and white shoes
*"is there anything carats cant do?"*
apparently picking a bias?
bias? never heard of it-
Anna hardest decision I’ve ever had to make
@@bnny_chuu9677 😂ikr but i think i have soft spots for minghao, hoshi and dino 😍bb
ohgod im glad im not the only one lmao, i started getting to know them during clap era (3-ish years ago), and up to this point i honestly dont know who my bias is lmao its everyone i guess
I have 13 biases idk what u mean lol
I do have a bias tho..I know it's hard but we really find one
Mine is OTP13 how bout yours
Haha but seriously I have no bias
seventeen's dance practice videos are the most satisfying videos to watch
Ikr
2:20 AAAAAWWW I ALWAYS LOVE THAT PART OF JUN! SO CHARMING :''
SEVENTEEN's performance is always fun to watch
The vibe they give off is like kids playing since they seem to be always having fun while performing. But on the other hand, the performance is too exceptional to be just kids playing around
Carats: My My is going to have an easy choreography.
SVT: nope.
I don't know why but Seventeen's Choreography videos always hit different, it feels much more vibrant than their MV or any comeback... It just enhances the beauty of this 13 pure souls who just enjoy doing what they love the most ❤
For new carats
Hip hop unit:
S.Coups 1:48
Wonwoo 0:50
Mingyu 0:46
Vernon 1:43
Vocal unit:
Woozi 2:58
Jeonghan 0:35
Joshua 0:26
DK 0:41
Seungkwan 1:23
Perfomance unit:
Hoshi 1:29
Jun 0:32
The8 1:04
Dino 1:13
Thank you so much this will be a big help for me
The dance is easy you just need to practice everyday 😙
Again?
@@dindi1004 it happens, happens a lot lmao
Wait.. I'm lost.. explain pleasee
@@maiahann there was this one concert were the audio directors kept replaying the chorus part of very nice, and the members would run back to the stage like their lives depend on it.
Yeah, again
Vernon wasn’t kidding when he said he is starting to stay away from colors :(((
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
WHAT when where why
Why though?
When he said that? 😱
Why
the number of times Jun and Joshua took centre makes my heart 🥺🥺
I'll never get over the "ah ha ha Woozi" at the end. 3:14 DK IS JUST SO PRECIOUS
ok but why isn't anyone talking about minghao's outfit? like bruh he's on fire
He’s always looking like a model
i just wanna talk bout wonwoo's outfit lmao if i had money i wouldn't dress like that
@@chwe1363 i respect ur thought about his outfit,but it's completely his choice😊
and his jump at 2:37
because i could write an entire essay about his outfits
the way they make their dance seems so fun and easy when it’s actually so difficult.
Wonwoo's outfit makes him look like he's one of a dancer from 1 Million Dance Studio ㅋㅋㅋ
Hi, Im new, can you say me please who is Joshua? 🥺
@@pau5871 Joshua is the first one to sing. 0:27 The one who’s all in grey
woozi was just *vibing* the whole time and i live for it
I wanna learn this dance but my lazy ass won't let me
Hi carat please vote seventeen on idol champ :) fighting!
Same
same ((((:
and also i am not good enough to dance gracefully like this ://
Try it, it's pretty easy
FOR THEM
I love how artistic they are with their choreographies and how they utilize the amount of members they have. I know Carats (and basically every one else) know how synchronized they are but still amazes us every time they release a choreo video. 💎💓
와 팬은 아닌데 이노래 진짜로 레전드인거같음
It s like watching a musical performance. They have story to tell us. It s a storytelling method. So entertaining. Yes! 😍 That Yellow Sunshine ☀ is so outstanding. It s easier for me to trail where s my DK s matriks are. In Happy Ending he wore blue yellow up to toe. I reallly love it, coz blue is my fav colour. He really nailed it! 😍 😍
Woozi : is there anything carats can't do
Carats: is there anything seriously anything seventeen can't do ???
NOOOO Seventeen is LEGEND
I CAN STILL REMEMBER SOMEONE ASKED ME IF IS IT POSSIBLE FOR A KPOP GROUP TO HAVE ALL THE MEMBERS BE THE MAIN DANCER WHILE WATCHING SVT'S DANCE CHOREOGRAPHIES. ISTG THE QUESTION IS ON POINT!!!!
A large group and everyone can sing, dance, rap. What can't you do SVT?
I'm so in love with this song from the album. ❤️
0:55 ここからサビまでの踊りかわいすぎる大好き(笑)
*I swear, at **2:48** I heard "Music Bank", i watched it again and it became "Inkigayo" then played it again just to hear "Pep-si"*
*_pep-shi_*
IKR now that part is just empty and i'm like, i can't
I'm just a simple girl, When I see SEVENTEEN I click like my whole life depends on it. 😂
Hi carat please vote seventeen on idol champ :) fighting!
Yup2. Done. Huhu. 😉
@@reshssaem let's tell other carats too because there are some who doesn't know😊 please spread the word. Fighting!
The way woozi sit at the campfire part tho>.< way too cute omg my heart... he's like an exited little boy huhuuuu
no one is more creative than seventeen when it comes to choreography....i mean look at those moves😏
the nostalgia this song brings for things that havent even happened , its unexplainable
pledis finally paid their practice room light bill i see
Just the immense details of the choreography,the uniqueness,the creativity,the energy,the synchronization(I mean its Seventeen duh!) and just them as a whole...it makes us speechless....
I mean I seriously feel so sorry for those who don't stan Seventeen....
Seventeen Fighting
Carats Fighting (Love from India)
Their choreography is so intricate and detailed!!!!
fun fact, jeonghan's baby already grown up, he's the one who lifts him now haha
Lyn Lee jeonghan whose baby are you?
.... he doesn't like to be called that
@@13.09. they're just making a joke about Dino getting ridiculously strong
Dino nugu aegi?
uhhh u do know that dino doesn’t like being called a baby right?? esp when he’s asked “dino nugu aegi” 😐😐
Seventeen’s choreographies are so beautiful, elegant, graceful and so satisfying to watch. It might take so much effort and hard work. All of them are main dancer material and i bet if they were in any other group all of them would be the main dancer
The song is catchy right off the bat but when Dino takes center for the chorus... is it just me or do the colours get brighter and everyone gets a little younger and the sun goes.. wow wow I can do a little better than that and you realize that your breath reaches your entire body and you're smiling and then you feel like moving even though there's no way you can follow their moves you still feel like dancing with them and by the time the song ends you're like.... damn I just lived through an entire 2 months worth of summer vacation in the last 3 and a half minutes and you feel refreshed and ready for the day
Who else can make creative, synchronized choreography?
Only seventeen can