Panthers leaving Cam off of their GOAT poll suggests there is bad blood - Skip | NFL | UNDISPUTED
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- 게시일 2020. 06. 17.
- In a Twitter poll yesterday, the Panthers asked fans to choose the franchise GOAT, listing only Luke Kuechly, Julius Peppers and Steve Smith. A glaring omission from that poll is Cam Newton, the franchise’s all-time passing leader and 2015 NFL MVP, who led Carolina to their second Super Bowl appearance. Hear what Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe have to say about Cam Newton being left off the list.
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Panthers leaving Cam off of their GOAT poll suggests there is bad blood - Skip | NFL | UNDISPUTED
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What are your thoughts on the omission of Cam Newton from the poll?
Bulljive
Cause NFL a white league. BLM
I think they are mad they let him go and wish they could bring him back! They are regretting letting go and now it’s bad blood! They probably figured it out ticket sales will not be the same when the season starts .
Casper02mtl u realize the guys that were on the poll aren’t white right?
Carolina Panthers suck man!!!!
The disrespect is unreal. It's like they're acting like he didnt exist
Yes, Cam had 1 single great season. Everybody else on this list had a decade of being great and are hall of famers
@pan af stop. It has nothing to do with race. Quit being part of the problem.
@@25nahshon Did you just say he was top 5 every year until the Superbowl? lmao ok lets go from year to year, i got time to make you look stupid real quick...
@@25nahshon 2011, he wins rookie of the year by throwing for 4000 yards and having 21-17 td to interceptions which isnt good at all. But for a rookie 4000 is amazing. By the way this would be his only 4000 yard season of his career.
Prima Donna attitudes do not work well with QBs. The guy acts like he has something else better to do.
Newton: Franchise's all time leader in win, pass yds, pass td, and rush td
lol that franchise has been horrible so there is nothing to compare it to my guy. Stop it
Luke Kuechly: one of the greatest MLBs ever and multiple time DPOY and All Pro
@@_ProTrax did he play offense?
@@roberto5red5rocky85 If there is nothing to compare it to, it means there is nothing that surpasses his stats. If there is nothing that surpasses his stats, it means he is the franchise goat. So basically, you argued against yourself.
@@MrBeatboxmasta That made no sense. He played for a franchise that doesnt have a winning history. Which in turn makes it easier to lead in those categories. Whats hard to understand about that? Garbage franchise
This is why you as a player must get your money, because at the end of the day it's just a business
Exactly once you have no value they throw you out in the cold so the player get as much money you can and get out
Secure the bag 💰
Absolutely
Yep, they used him up until he was hurt. Now they act like he doesn't exist. I'm not a Panthers or Cam fan, but the man helped put the Panthers on the map.
Your exactly rite
The Panthers are just being petty
Yo how many times can you comment on this video I count at least 5 Jesus
Those are three Hall of Famer‘s. Is cam newton a Hall of Famer
@@jasonblack3987 No, he's not. He's more likely to join the Kardashians than the HOF.
Jason Black bro knock it off. Cam is the only panthers QB to lead them to a Super Bowl and to win regular season mvp. If you don’t see that the panthers are just being petty then you’re blind
jay dot I’m a Panthers fan And maybe if you played well in that. Super Bowl I would have a different opinion but he had like a 30 passer rating ant three turnovers
Cam put the Panthers on a new level as a brand and to a SB as MVP
Thats how people do you once they done with u and they no longer need u anymore
Cam gave that franchise their best regular and post season. Record 15-1
If thats the case then that title belongs to Jake, Steve . Just because you weren't there doesn't mean that its never happened before. The first one actually would have meant more overall.
Yes, Cam had 1 single great season. Everybody else on this list had a decade of being great and are hall of famers
Who cares about any of that come on now
Imagine if Cam Newton actually had weapons for once. If he was on the browns or vikings he'd probably win a super bowl.
They drafted wide receivers in the 1st and 2nd round multiple times. Benjamin, funchess, dj moore
@@WestCoastDon448 And most of em didn't pan out in the league.
JC drop machine funchess
@@WestCoastDon448 Benjamin and funchess were busts. Cam only played with DJ Moore when Moore was a rookie.
Disagree. Cam's strength was never passing. He would have great games, but his accuracy is inconsistent at best. They built the team how it needed to be built, defense and running, with rpo/PA.
why cant the panthers be happy for his services? dude took them to a SB and hes their only mvp
Because the other positions don't win mvp. Not having him in a poll for their all time best player, doesn't mean he wasn't good for them.
Because he’s BLACK. That’s why.
Petty AF
Fotosynthesis858 there’s two other black guys on the poll
2 super bowls
Cam had ted ginn jr and went too the superbowl
Turned a journeyman kick returner into a pro bowl receiver after losing the greatest receiver in franchise history. My Ravens cut Michael Oher as a right tackle and Oher made the pro bowl as a patch in player at left tackle but of course he will get no credit for that. The drafted a tight end to play receiver for him with Devin Funchess. Carolina is a joke
Kelvin Benjamin was worse he could not catch the ball to save his life
@@santinovaughn9336 thank you someone who gets it
@@jaheimwilliams4059 Still trying to figure out why the media acts like Cam had all these greeat weapons and underachieved lol.
The Panthers will never win a Superbowl because of the way they do players!!!
Yep and coaches. It ain’t the fans that got beef with Cam it’s the new owner. They cut Steve Smith loose before he was done too They wanted Cam and Olsen out after last year
That's why Cam got to go somewhere and win a Superbowl.
It’s a shame
Yea we dont do right by our players
Cam went to the superbowl and forfeited. Showed his true colors. Not a leader, not a good teammate, and an ever worse human
I'm so TIRED of the DISRESPECT from this team! Man... TEPPER came in there and changed the ENTIRE CULTURE. I'm over this, man.
Same.
Just returning the favor. Scam is scumbag, always has been
Storm Cloud facts bruh!!
Cam layed it all out for the panthers and thats how they treat him
James Black he had a shoulder injury if he dives the still lose the game because cam out stop being salty
Ferdinand dumbest comment on YT. Didnt realize you could read the future. But for arguements sake lets say that's true. Still 999 out of 1000 QBs at least try to help their team in the biggest game of their career
Didn't Jake Delhomme and steve smith get them to the sb against the Patriots or am i just trippin??
Steve Smith wasn’t a leader on that team if you said Chris Jenkings and Julius maybe
@@willfargo1109 True. My point tho is im pretty sure the Panthers went to a super bowl before cam. Imo i feel that they should have gave an extra spot. Peppers, Smith, Luke, and Cam. I would go with Cam as Panthers goat. But I'm almost positive they went to another superbowl right??
Saints 6709 yeah, Shannon didn’t do any homework before this topic but oh well. I love Carolina and we did Cam SO WRONG
@@willfargo1109 Smith wasn't a leader agreed but its no coincidence that the year Steve Smith breaks out they go to the Super Bowl. Two years later Steve Smith gets the Triple Crown something only two other receivers did
Jovan Johnson trust me I know Steve Smith is top ten wideout all time , I’m just saying cam was the mvp of the league he was the unquestioned leader also
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Exactly
No cap 😴😁
🤣
You forgot the obvious goat, Hernandez!!!
Let's not forget about Philip Dorsett.. HoF
“He’s the only one who lead your team to a super bowl” Jake delhomme has entered the chat
Did he win mvp tho?
@@abney_66 That is not what Shannon said. He clearly said Cam is the only player to lead this team to a Super Bowl. Steve Smith and Julius Peppers were the motor of that 2004 season; a season which came down to the last minute when the Patriots kicked a game winning FG. Unlike Cam who's team was steamrolled by the Denver Broncos and a terrible Peyton Manning(past his prime).
@@themadthinker4291 U do understand that the 2003 Pat's defense wasn't that good compared to the 2015 Broncos defense who a were top 5 defense that year. Cam have a bunch of scrubs at wr except for Ted Ginn jr. Delhomme had Steve Smith Sr. and Mushin Muhammad and went 11-5. Cam did more with less.
Johndarrion Abney Yeah and not mention that whole team was juicing. And that’s kinda been cams career . No great WR other than steve smith for a little bit and greg olson . But When he was completely healthy and had cmc and more help on offense he was playing great in 2017 .
@@abney_66 Cam had a great defense and the real Goat of Carolina on that defense Luke you guys letting Cam one MVP blind you look at peppers and Luke's full career compared to Cam's full career
Shannon: "he's you're ONLY MVP, he's the ONLY guy that led your team to the SB"
Wrong. Jake Delhomme was QB and took them to the superbowl where they lost to the Patriots...
Shannon needs to do his homework.
He's also the only guy that lost them the superbowl for being scared to go for the ball
MVP and led team to Super Bowl
@@poocrafter2 he also outgunned Manning in a fixed superbowl.
@@ArganawkTLOD needs to listen to whole conversation
Steve Smith and Peppers lead the panthers to the super bowl too
Ppl forget
Lol did they win
Kasey kicked it out of bounds...
Steven Jones did Cam win?
@@iremainunimpressed1589 The steve smith and peppers was a closer game
Pettinest at the highest level l, I agree.
Something HAD to have happened behind closed doors. I am a Panthers fan and the disrespect the organization has showed him this past year as been telling. SOMETHING IS FISHY!
KenyelxoTV I live in Charlotte and can tell you first hand most Carolina fans here love/misses him. Sad to see this
Isaiah Stubbs I’m in Fayetteville and the feelings are mutual. I just want to know what’s really going on!!
Cam was one of my favorite player to watch and I’m not a panthers fan. I really don’t get the hate this man gets
They really wanted to put Cmac up there.
steve smith easily. Everyone forgetting how good he was in his prime smh
Steve smith was a beast man one of my favorite receivers of all time
He was a beast but he definitely didn’t have the same impact for the panthers I mean 15-1 and a Super Bowl appearance
@@CT-yr8ph I'll tell you who had the biggest impact on that 15-1 team the Defence.
Steve Smith was incredible...but there is NO DEBATE here Cam Newton is easily the best player in franchise history then Smith, Peppers, then Luke
didnt have the same impact? Steve Smith carried the offense in 2003 when he went to super bowl. Was first team all pro more times than Cam Newton. I root for Cam but Steve Smith is GOAT panther no argument
Not over smitty guys without smitty who would be panthers fans fr
He still should be mentioned.
I don’t think anyone (besides skiiuuup🤦🏽♂️) is saying him over Steve Smith, but they definitely should’ve added Cam to the choices. Had it be a choice between those 4
Xavier Vasquez I agree but not over smitty imo smitty is the 🐐
Marty Fleckson I agree
Lmao you seen what panthers did to smitty🤣
Steve Smith Sr. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
There’s no way Julius peppers was a better panther than cam bruh....
Julius peppers will be a hall of famer. And his best years were apart of the Carolina. So they are closer than you think. Cam as we speak is not a hall of famer.
Julius Peppers was dominant on the panthers and a future hall of famer. He was better at his position than cam ever was as a QB
Matthew weiss he made that pathetic franchise relevant
@Affordable Sticks FORMER MVP vs FUTURE HOF
To me NFL Mvp means nothing to me because its reserved only for QB's and is almost never given to any other position so him winning an MVP as a argument as to why he should be in that top 3 not good enough. I have zero complaints of the 3 they put in there. If there was one more spot I would have cam there.
And the dab was already hot get out of here lol
Although their choices are not bad, Cam definitely should’ve been on the list. Idk who to take off but I know Cam should’ve been on the list.
Great as he is Kuelhy would be taken off. Peppers and Smith were massive players for them for a long time
Charles Trotman Luke was there best defensive player ever he would not be taken off
Charles Trotman Luke one of the best defensive players ever cam deserves to be there but Luke not coming off
@@Brunsonsavedme ever ? You don't think Peppers had bigger impact ?
The disrespect is horrible man. Cam might not be the Panthers goat but He's among them
Well Cam Newton as of NOW....
Is the Best Panther as by far, so far❗
Than Julius Peppers
Skip: So your GOAT poll will just feature one guy?
😁😁😁😁😁
He would put LeBron lol
EVERYONE put playback speed to 1.50x Shannon turns into an auctioneer hahahaha
How does Shannon not know the Panthers been to the superbowl before Cam Newton was drafted 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
Skip agreed with him when he said it too.
@@TheTillmanSneakerReview this is not about who was the QB at all tho Shannon said did Julius Peppers or Steve Smith take the Panthers to the superbowl when in fact they both did together...... Thats the problem with these shows they spit FALSE INFORMATION REPEATEDLY & NEVER correct themselves when they in the wrong & thats EXACTLY how causals think they know something when they don't because they learn majority of their history from shows like this smh
@@TheTillmanSneakerReview But Shannon literally said we've never been to the Super Bowl before. That's a bold-faced lie. Both Smitty and Peppers took us to a Super Bowl.
Bruh disrespect my dog greg olsen like that tf
Current lol Greg is great but not at the same level as theses 4 guys
777d7777 777d7777 dude greg olson is ur dad what are u talking about?
Olsen has never been a top 3 tight end in any year
Dude greg olson was mvp last year tf
Took them to SB and won MVP. Damn the disrespect
Yeah that team didn’t have any other amazing game changing players. The guy in the dumb clothes “led” them.
Who is the greatest player to suit up in a Panthers uniform? Reggie White
Who had the best career in a Panthers uniform? Cam Newton
Greatest by what standards ? All White's achievements with the eagles and packers shouldn't apply , because of his one year stint in Charlotte
That’s crazy for all Cam Newton did for them!! Wow The NFL teams turn on the players so fast, make sure y’all don’t give them no discount when y’all renegotiate those contracts players!
“Leave em all off, Cam number 1” 😭😭😭 shannon is jokes
David Tepper is the main reason for this. Literally disowned Cam after he got hurt. This hurts as a long time panthers fan and I'm sure it hurts other panthers fans as well.
They went to the superbowl in 03. So twice! Steve smith is the GOAT tho.
No, he is not.
@@darryllmcgee he is.
agreed, Smith is the last person of the 3 that should be replaced by Cam, He was THE panther before and longer than Cam, I'd say Cam replaces Keuchly out of those 3 options Don't know what Skip was thinking going straight to "he gotta replace Smith".
Everyone seems to be forgetting 03-04
@@darryllmcgee Yes, Cam had 1 single great season. Everybody else on this list had a decade of being great and are hall of famers
Damn, that's dirty.....
Damn that's cold lol
We live in a world where people condemn others for the way they dress and because he’s different, I get being upset that he didn’t dive for the football in the SB but to completely dogg him out is outrageous the man has been a saint on and off the field but one wouldn’t believe that the way he’s getting treated🤦♂️
Cam Newton is the greatest Panther ever no explanation needed
Do some research, watch old games, your opinion sucks. Fwiw I was going to games in the biakabituka era, so come at me bro.
Sure...if you have no actual football knowledge and/or base your opinion off highlights.
Yea, that’s your opinion. There are other Panthers who made impact more consistent and longer than Cam. But Cam should def go down as a Panther great.
Just say no to drugs bro!
Remember how exciting it was waiting for him to play?? These folks don't know any Panthers history. They think nothing happened before they were born.
Cam is by far the best Panther in their history. Steve Smith is a close 2nd. Then Luke for me. McCaffrey coming tho! This must be a trash organization.
Nah Luke is the best. Luke is easily hof while cam probably won't even be mentioned for it
@@MovieGurus a former MVP won't be mentioned for the HOF?? let me get some of that you smoking my boy
@@juggfinesse1265 1 good season doesnt account for the rest of mediocrity of his career bud.
@@MovieGurus leads the Panthers in rush yards rush Tds pass yards and pass Tds you can't be average doing that
@@juggfinesse1265 maybe because it's a young franchise and never had a good rn or qb..... mccaffery will pass him in 3 years time....
I love Luke, but I'm dropping him for Cam. Cam is definitely the best player in their franchise history
As a Panthers Fan, Cam Newton is one of the reasons we're still relevant. Still surprised David Tepper chose to part ways with him.
Can helped Carolina more than Carolina helped Cam!!! Frfr
Man its definitely Steve Smith!
The goat is smith 100%🧐
As a Panthers fan this sickens me. Almost as sick as when they fired my favorite player of ALL TIME STEVE SMITH SR 🤢🤮
It’s ironic how they wanted to not acknowledge Cam and the people ended up talking about him more.
This is egregious ...😳
Jake Delhomme got em there and both you genious's with researchers omit that 👍 Steve Smith is the GOAT 🐐
wat
I’d take Newton over all 3 lol - guy isn’t just great but being a Panther he actually underrated IMO
if he was a Cowboy or Steeler or Packer or Patriot he’d be so much more popular across America
Umm no he is overrated his 2015 season was great but guess what they lost in the sb to a worse team
Let me nip this in the bud. No need for a GOAT list, Carolina had one player that won rookie of the year, MVP, and led the team to a 15-1 season w/a Super Bowl appearance. Cam is the GOAT.
Just shows how sorry the organization has become smh 🤦🏾♂️
The disrespect for Cam is real in the NFL. Kaep will get a job before Cam
Facts Kap was GARBAGE last time seen in action
Cam sucks. 32 teams know it. Only his fans don't. Tards.
wow 😳
Best show on tv ! Give these guys an award been watching everyday since the premiere & been watching skip before that
to answer skips question about having to replace one of the three for cam, i would choose cam to replace luke. no disrespect, but he had a shorter career. all of them great nonetheless.
Shannon didn’t want to answer for some reason. But Peppers, Smitty, and Cam are top 3. It’s not even that close in my opinion.
JohnBeezy3 I agree with your top3 but I think it’s close cause Luke is definetly a Hall of Famer
Why do you have to replace any of the three because Cam was the QB no you can't replace Luke to me he had the greatest career out of the 4 and he had a shorter career thats crazy he's always been mentioned as the best at his position he and peppers never Cam or Smith Luke has a ROY and DPOY award which is the equivalent of a MVP for defensive players since they're probably never get a MVP award again so no you definitely can't take luke out because his career achievements are better than Cams and Smith and he played less yrs plus Luke was big part of Carolina going to the SB too not just Cam
If one had to go it’s kechly🤷🏾♂️
Good explanation.
Sam Mills, Wesley Walls, Kerry Collins?
*THE QUESTION SHOULD BE 'Who is the SECOND greatest player in Panther history'* 🤦🏽♂️Cam Newton 1, Steve Smith 2 and lastly Julius Peppers 3! It's a joke for them to EXCLUDE the greatest Carolina Panther to EVER suit up!!!
I IREALLY HOPE THE BEARS SIGN CAM
They already have Foles!!
Timothy Smith yeah it would be a great battle for the starting position they both have something to prove!! Wouldn’t you agree?
Brandon Man yeah agreed! B/c Tribisky is not a the answer
Gutta 540 you know what I can’t remember not 1???🤔
@@appliedknowledgereignsupre8739 Vince Evans
Skip "I've never seen this before" Bayless
Shannon Sharpe: How many super bowls did Julius Pepper take em to?
Julius Pepper: 1, Same as Cam
2004 Patriots vs Panthers
1.) Steve Smith
2.) Julius Peppers
3.) Cam Newton
I ain’t never seen unc back pedal from a question so fast.
Panthers wasn't cool to me until Cam got there.
Why because Cam was loud and running around dancing while they real Goat Luke was being quiet and being grest
The blatant disrespect. The other candidate show speak out and say something on Cam's behalf.
Peppers: First ballot HOF player. He was a consistent, elite pass rusher his entire career. His career speaks for itself.
Smith: First ballot HOF player. At 5'9, He was constantly putting up 1000+ yard seasons and carried the receiving corp of the Panthers for years.
Kuechly: At least IMO, He's a first ballot HOF player. In 8 seasons, He was a 7-time pro bowler, 5-time all-pro, Defensive player of the year, Defensive rookie of the year and averaged a minimum of 100 tackles a season.
Not a single person right now would say that Cam is HOF worthy. Not even close.
That first trip to the Super Bowl was all about the defensive line over anyting else. And peppers was the most difficult to stop because of his athleticism and multitasking.
Just remembering that 1 game they lost n the 15-1 season where Julio mossed the F outta LukeKuechly💀
a middle linebacker running downfield with the number one receiver in the league... Lol your comment is as dumb as your name boi.
Imagine saying something this stupid, being able to see it typed out and still submit the comment. That act of publishing comments should be banned altogether, I can love without if it means idiots like this don’t feel validated.
As a Carolina Panther fan it hurts me to see this..😔
should've made a poll to determine the candidates
Cam is the panther goat. I’ve been a die hard fan my whole life.
Panthers will be bad for years to come, due to their treatment of Can.
And he’s BLACK... one injury they already have their backup plan ready, the panthers did not take care of him meaning that they did not surround him with the right personnel early on until Ron Rivera, poor Drafting from the GM with the exception of keuchly and mcaffery, and the GM and new owner reputation of letting go players too early (Josh Norman who fitted their defensive scheme, Steve Smith, Devin funchess, and many more)
No they won't they have a player who probably is going to be the greatest in team history McCaffrey
That shows you how small the Panthers mine set is guys.
We gotta get a correction tomorrow
That's why they racist team will never win a chip
Dumbest comment on this video
@@djsweatshop7514 you the only one said that on my comment idiot other people like f***you clown
Revisit the whole situation
Let's be honest if they protected Cam Newton in that Superbowl it would've ended differently
Im not even a Cam fan but damn man this is so disrespectful
Carolina could learn from how the Colts handled Peyton coming back to Indy to play against them.
shannon was talking as if julius peppers wasn't a big part of the panthers first super bowl team. he definitely deserves his spot on that list
Can stay up!! You shoulda been at the top of the list.
They know they should've @ least put em on the list
Julius Peppers is easily the best Panther of all time. The fan favorite goes to Steve Smith (one of the most under rated receivers of all time). Cam is the best qb they ever had, but that's only a testament to how young the franchise is along with how irrelevant their qbs are.
Wow!!!!!!! Cam is by far the best player in Carolina Panthers history!!!!
SAM MILLS. Cam should be up there to tho
Sam Mills was a motivational leader for Carolina. Good player, but not a GOAT. His prime was as a Saint.
Cam to the Cowboys equals Super Bowl Trophy 🏆
I honestly thought I looked at it wrong...
I wonder what happened behind the scenes 🤔
Wow, they new this was incendiary before they even made the tweet, it's divisive within itself, but then you just completely leave off an MVP that took you to the SB? Wow lol.
like shannon said, they should have had 4 votes.
Yeah, CMAC or Olsen as the 4th.
Well CAM is a patriot now. Boi i can't wait for the show tomorrow boiiii 💯💯
Are you serious there is no discussion cam Newton was the greatest player in Panthers history and one of the Greatest qbs ever to touch the field
My favorite player they got me thinking bout switching cam da was the number 1 rank player at one time
Cam, Smith, Peppers, Mills & Keuchly. Panthers 🐐's. PERIOD!
The social media guy said he chose retired players, this is not a big deal.
Tell'm Uncle! Cam definitely one of GOATS that play for the Panthers.....
Cam made the Panthers relevant doing that superbowl run.
Okay I say they put cam in but post a picture of Wesley Snipes from "too Wong Foo"