macOS Big Sur’s Big Secret

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  • The visual changes to macOS Big Sur are actually the small part. Snazzy Labs explains why the Mac will soon gain a touchscreen.
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    Apple announced macOS 11 Big Sur to much surprise this last week at WWDC. Along with the transition to ARM came a bevy of visual changes (we won’t call them upgrades, per se) and the announcement that Apple Silicon Macs would be able to run iOS apps without modification. Not only that, but that Apple would be placing all iPad and iPhone apps available to download in the Apple Silicon Mac App Store by default unless the developer specifically states that they don’t want it listed. A bunch of multi-touch apps and games require touch input, however, and we’re as sure as ever that touchscreen Macs are on the horizon despite Apple’s insistence that they’re not coming soon. We talk about visual indications we’ve found hidden in macOS Big Sur that help argue why macOS Big Sur hidden secrets hint at a touch-capable future. #macOS #BigSur #SnazzyLabs
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  • @leogrievous
    @leogrievous 3 년 전 +3487

    You missed an opportunity to title this video "macOS's big surcret"

  • @franklinjoe52
    @franklinjoe52 3 년 전 +824

    Looks like the new MacBooks will let you use your ARMs. Get it? Anyone?

  • @Ben.N
    @Ben.N 3 년 전 +194

    This is like running the old iPhone apps on iPad, where they would have to be scaled with that weird 2x button, but worse.

  • @asandax6
    @asandax6 3 년 전 +610

    Are you merging MacOS and IOS
    "NO"
    proceeds to merge MacOS and IOS even switch from intel to ARM

    • @DuaneMoody990
      @DuaneMoody990 3 년 전 +26

      They said that at the last WWDC before iPadOS was announced, so they wouldn't have to answer "Are you merging MacOS and iPadOS?"

    • @kontoname
      @kontoname 3 년 전 +2

      @@DuaneMoody990 I hope you are just so bad at trolling? It's iOS on iPads / iPods as well...

    • @DuaneMoody990
      @DuaneMoody990 3 년 전 +11

      @@kontoname iPadOS is Apple making changes to the implementation of iOS on iPads: a genuine filesystem, support for wireless mice, etc.

    • @susanpratt3290
      @susanpratt3290 3 년 전

      Then again, things change in two years.

    • @superaviation001
      @superaviation001 3 년 전

      lol

  • @JoshUnwin
    @JoshUnwin 3 년 전 +517

    “Run all iOS apps directly on macOS, no work required.”
    Meanwhile, Instagram on iPad is just a little phone app within a black void around 70% of the screen.

    • @superNova5837
      @superNova5837 3 년 전 +27

      Oh god that looks so bad thinking about

    • @tij9190
      @tij9190 3 년 전 +19

      Josh Unwin ikr but thats bcuz of Instagram not Apple

    • @JoshUnwin
      @JoshUnwin 3 년 전 +26

      @@tij9190 mostly yeah but Android will automatically scale apps to make use of the screen size even if the dev hasn't optimised it so it is possible for Apple to do better.

    • @tij9190
      @tij9190 3 년 전 +4

      Josh Unwin true

    • @harshitarora693
      @harshitarora693 3 년 전 +5

      @@JoshUnwin android has a huge advantage in such ways but it makes the app buggy at times cause we have to optimise it . Also don't forget whatsapp 🤣🤣.

  • @ramennbowls
    @ramennbowls 3 년 전 +366

    1:25 "We love the mac, because its expen- we love macos"..
    What was that Craig Federighi, Apple's senior vice president of Software Engineering department?

    • @IndySidhu88
      @IndySidhu88 3 년 전 +27

      explicit replaced expensive lol

    • @tgdxdrakoon7019
      @tgdxdrakoon7019 3 년 전 +28

      hahahhaha he wanted to tell the truth so badly. omg, thanks for sharing!

    • @louiefriesen
      @louiefriesen 3 년 전 +8

      "We love the Mac, because it it expensive, so we get to make a whole whack ton of money!"
      -What Craig was thinking

    • @ars7374
      @ars7374 3 년 전 +2

      Lmao

    • @brunoglopes
      @brunoglopes 3 년 전 +2

      Lmaooo

  • @camberwellcarrot7524
    @camberwellcarrot7524 3 년 전 +839

    I thought he was going to say, "We love the Mac, because it's expensive."

    • @prinzvalium242
      @prinzvalium242 3 년 전 +51

      He was going to say that, he stopped himself in time tho

    • @Noodles0upp
      @Noodles0upp 3 년 전 +4

      EXACTLY.

    • @pdfbro5118
      @pdfbro5118 3 년 전 +7

      It is because it is secure and powerful

    • @pdfbro5118
      @pdfbro5118 3 년 전 +2

      Although I use 2 iPads and one Mac for animation

    • @ziited5679
      @ziited5679 3 년 전 +9

      Expens- *ehm* explicit

  • @StuartLynne
    @StuartLynne 3 년 전 +14

    I discovered this years ago with touch-screen Chromebooks. Sometimes you would use the trackpad (or mouse). Sometimes you would touch the screen. Hands and arms seemed to make the choice without thinking about it. Very enjoyable experience.

  • @WesPerry
    @WesPerry 3 년 전 +224

    As soon as I saw that updated UI I said “ohhhh this looks touchable!”

    • @auroraflash
      @auroraflash 3 년 전

      Fake news.

    • @felixvehent3336
      @felixvehent3336 3 년 전

      Me too

    • @calebwaddell6948
      @calebwaddell6948 3 년 전

      It almost made me cringe when I saw people using the cursor in the new Mac OS, and I dont even use a single apple product.

    • @DanC8111_
      @DanC8111_ 3 년 전

      They might possibly made a touch screen MacBook

  • @teepz04
    @teepz04 3 년 전 +275

    Watching this is like watching a homicide detective story
    Edit: Thanks for the heart Quinn

  • @talldarkshark8012
    @talldarkshark8012 3 년 전 +5

    This is one of the few KRplus videos which has been visually very appealing. The subtle blue background is stunning, your T-shirt conpliments the whole vibe. Awesome work, brother.

  • @pranavtumminkatti9373
    @pranavtumminkatti9373 3 년 전 +107

    "like windows 10, but not crap", lol nice one there😂

    • @kindanyume
      @kindanyume 3 년 전 +2

      W10 is trying to be as bad as crapintosh is ie: They fuck over your customers every possible way and remove control from them as much as possible
      Its also funny that this comes along as a new upgrade of Winbloze meanwhile such isn't even an OS.. it's a service and a very very bad one at that.
      Also note crapintosh would be fucked so royally it wouldn't be funny if all of the creators of the underlying *nix code prohibited it from being used by crapintosh (much of that code is in their arm based code as well)
      (Now edited on a real keyboard instead of the nightmare pos wifi mini kbd I was stuck using at the time of the original post. UGH I swear when the replacement arrives that pos is going to the range to make a nice target for some 9mm goodness.)

    • @ahmederadwan
      @ahmederadwan 3 년 전 +2

      I understood that he meant more of (not crap mac iOS), like now the nonsense merging between macOS and iPadOS. A detachable iPad that is not crap. Windows is actually doing fantastic converting between laptop and a tablet ahead of time.

    • @rossgoosen7269
      @rossgoosen7269 3 년 전 +4

      @@kindanyume ...what?

    • @kindanyume
      @kindanyume 3 년 전

      what didnt u understad? that w10 is trying tp f over the dolts that use it as much if not worse than crapintoshs victims?
      or that if all of the contribs that are used for free in the underlyng structure that osx relies on were revoked then crapintosh would be royally fuked..
      or the part that win10 is NOT an OS it is a service..

    • @kindanyume
      @kindanyume 3 년 전 +1

      you mistake migrating crap from one platform to another as a good thing when in reality the fact remains its still crap regardless

  • @mediocreatbest9466
    @mediocreatbest9466 3 년 전 +188

    The second I saw them show the control center I was like “sooooo it’s just a touch control scheme now?”

    • @jaywye
      @jaywye 3 년 전 +9

      And the increased padding between icons and menu items as well. So damn obvious that it's an interface optimized for touch.

    • @SteveBoyer10
      @SteveBoyer10 3 년 전 +2

      Yep immediately thought “ah okay touch screens coming to Mac”

    • @_MintArcade
      @_MintArcade 3 년 전 +1

      Courage, my friend, courage

    • @musicalhistory4392
      @musicalhistory4392 3 년 전

      Yeah it was obvious, also the fact that everything is shaped like a button now.

    • @mmdday
      @mmdday 3 년 전

      i had teh same feeling

  • @violet-trash
    @violet-trash 3 년 전 +193

    Oh boy, I can't wait for giant browser UIs that take up half the screen so that I can get the _full grandma experience._ 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

    • @MrLeonOfficial
      @MrLeonOfficial 3 년 전 +5

      ゴミクズ人Violet We’ve been getting the full Grandma Experience on mobile for years. :-(

    • @JohnEusebioToronto
      @JohnEusebioToronto 3 년 전 +10

      That does seem annoying. Firefox has an adaptable UI that enlarges elements when in tablet mode. I think Apple should look into that.

    • @shariful3844
      @shariful3844 3 년 전 +3

      Windows is better than mac os and ios is better than android in tablet/pad department and ios and android similar in phone department

    • @hira6481
      @hira6481 3 년 전 +12

      @@shariful3844 that's largely subjective, I was using windows all my life until 2-3 years ago when i got my macbook and i never realised how much i dislike using windows before I got the feel of macos. People like u need to stop trying to find an answer to which os is better cause at the end of the day it comes down to what each of us wants in an os.

    • @bluephreakr
      @bluephreakr 3 년 전 +1

      @@hira6481 Until a few years back I wasn't primarily on an open-source system. Now here I am using Manjaro because I wanted a braindead-simple Arch-based system with my desktop of choice, which through the power of -friendship- community they provide. Tired of Microsoft selling me by the parcel and too poor for Apple, I do the next-best thing and dual-boot an OS of choice alongside Windows when I need it.

  • @MayankBadhan
    @MayankBadhan 3 년 전 +34

    I would laugh if Schiller blocks Quinn after this video 😂

  • @finnsprau8607
    @finnsprau8607 3 년 전 +130

    “Big Sewer”. 😂

    • @thescreemregular5168
      @thescreemregular5168 3 년 전 +1

      𝗂 𝖼𝖺𝗅𝗅 𝗂𝗍 𝖻𝗂𝗀 𝗌𝗅𝗎𝗋

    • @tec738cafdikfac2
      @tec738cafdikfac2 3 년 전

      You missed an opportunity to title this video "macOS's big surcret"

  • @VeeAyyDee
    @VeeAyyDee 3 년 전 +291

    “Less than perfect cursor implementation is better than no cursor implementation at all”, where the heck is iPad calculator app???

    • @thatpitter
      @thatpitter 3 년 전 +9

      VeeAyDee Mkbhd has an interview with Craig and he explains that.

    • @DavidParker
      @DavidParker 3 년 전 +19

      Peter Schumacher hahaha yeah it’s such a dumb explanation, I just want one that can be easily accessed from the control panel! I don’t care about Apple making a “great” calculator!

    • @brianchristine9301
      @brianchristine9301 3 년 전 +6

      ...AND the Weather app???

    • @thomasalias8492
      @thomasalias8492 3 년 전 +9

      @@thatpitter He didn't "explain" anything. He came up with an excuse on the spot because the real reason is that there isn't one. They just never got to it because it slipped their mind.

    • @PhilippSeven
      @PhilippSeven 3 년 전

      @@DavidParker There is a bunch free app in appstore with calculator for widget area.

  • @bentonr.olmsted3423
    @bentonr.olmsted3423 3 년 전 +344

    Don’t you just love KRplus’s auto-generated subtitles?
    “Mac OS Big Sewer”
    😂

    • @gamunu.b
      @gamunu.b 3 년 전 +10

      that's actually correct.

    • @Todrick451
      @Todrick451 3 년 전 +4

      well if he pronounced it normally, "Sir" like "Surf" without the F... maybe KRplus wouldn't nail the weird pronunciation with it's apparently spot-on auto-generated subtitles.

    • @abdullahvqr
      @abdullahvqr 3 년 전 +1

      Same happened with me

    • @skendel
      @skendel 3 년 전 +7

      He keeps screwing up the pronunciation of Sur. He continuously says "sewer" every time. It's not KRplus's fault. It's his.

    • @CristhianPerez
      @CristhianPerez 3 년 전

      “armed Mac users” xd 10:04

  • @Christusolus
    @Christusolus 3 년 전 +58

    "we love the mac because it's expensi..." 1:25 He almost slipped when revealing it was overpriced.

    • @ashazhamzah5886
      @ashazhamzah5886 3 년 전

      Hahaha yes

    • @UltraAlex2000
      @UltraAlex2000 3 년 전 +3

      in his mind, i think he was going to say 'you love mac because it's expensive', and no one can make me think otherwise.

    • @MaxOakland
      @MaxOakland 3 년 전 +3

      Is it though? The $999 Macbook Air is an amazing value

    • @korbenbutterworth3479
      @korbenbutterworth3479 3 년 전 +2

      @@MaxOakland plus 699 for the Mac mini is fantastic considering how powerful it is with apple silicone

    • @YD_.
      @YD_. 3 년 전 +3

      Although it’s apple, the price for the same specs for other computers definitely make macs seem less pricey in comparison

  • @aric85
    @aric85 3 년 전 +20

    Okay you actually convinced me. Here's my new theory - The new iMac will be running Apple silicon and have an adjustbale angle like the Microsoft surface. And Apple Pencil support.

  • @WhyJustWhy2000
    @WhyJustWhy2000 3 년 전 +203

    They really need a "I'm not gonna touch it, please just give me some information density back" option.
    I'm so bothered by Apple's incessant push toward less and less information density. It's making smaller devices less useable

    • @hikkamorii
      @hikkamorii 3 년 전 +23

      Honestly, I praised apple for making their interfaces more dense, because when I use a computer with a mouse/touchpad and a keyboard. Big Sur is a fucking joke.

    • @axethepenguin
      @axethepenguin 3 년 전 +6

      @Jade L have you realized it lowers display quality smh

    • @paulkdrozd
      @paulkdrozd 3 년 전 +8

      They just need a touch mode toggle like tablet mode on Windows 10 to solve this

    • @Blox117
      @Blox117 3 년 전 +3

      the dumbing down of tech

    • @boredom1000
      @boredom1000 3 년 전 +20

      @Mario Bad UX is scrolling 4x as often to see the same content.

  • @MarsorryIckuatuna
    @MarsorryIckuatuna 3 년 전 +585

    I think he's the only one that pronounces it "Big Sewer" 😅

    • @tqjoriam
      @tqjoriam 3 년 전 +58

      Sur is a Spanish word that means "South". He is pronouncing it like it is pronounced in Spanish. The way you pronounce it sounds like "Sir".

    • @celkat
      @celkat 3 년 전 +16

      @@tqjoriam True - however, the correct (i.e. Californian) pronunciation is "Big Sir"

    • @MarsorryIckuatuna
      @MarsorryIckuatuna 3 년 전 +3

      tqjoriam Cool, learnt something new - I’m from Namibia 🇳🇦, not much Spanish speaking here.

    • @FriedEgg101
      @FriedEgg101 3 년 전 +9

      @@tqjoriam It'a also a French word meaning 'on'. "Sur la table".

    • @MuratDurucu
      @MuratDurucu 3 년 전 +1

      tqjoriam There is a Turkish word for "Sur" as well. It means "huge walls of the castle". 😊

  • @imnotafurry9117
    @imnotafurry9117 3 년 전 +7

    All Craig said was that they weren’t merging iOS and MacOS. He never said anything about not making touch screen laptops

  • @PaperBenni
    @PaperBenni 3 년 전 +7

    1:14 "We love the mac because it's expensive"
    Lol, they sure do xD

  • @MiguelLuna1
    @MiguelLuna1 3 년 전 +130

    The KRplus captions say “macOS Big Sewer”

  • @TheMrSnow1
    @TheMrSnow1 3 년 전 +99

    7:43 Apple breaks his own human interface guidelines with the wifi switch

    • @anthonyhobday
      @anthonyhobday 3 년 전 +2

      Not any more. They've added iOS style switches to the macOS Human Interface Guidelines, under "Buttons"

    • @MarioAtheonio
      @MarioAtheonio 3 년 전

      Which they've already been breaking with the Night Shift and Do Not Disturb switches in the notifications bar.

    • @Felix-qx5tk
      @Felix-qx5tk 3 년 전

      @@MarioAtheonio i think they aimed to make Sidecar look better but they really should have made a setting so that the big spacing and big buttons only show up when using sidecar and not all the time on macbooks etc

  • @theos4931
    @theos4931 2 년 전

    Love the presentation and the overall production. Keep it up man.

  • @peterpayne2219
    @peterpayne2219 3 년 전

    Always love your coverage!

  • @sephthesatanist6558
    @sephthesatanist6558 3 년 전 +130

    1:24 "We love the Mac because it's expen-" You were going to say expensive, weren't you? .-.

  • @johnothwolo
    @johnothwolo 3 년 전 +121

    Schiller: "It's common denominator thinking"
    *2 years later...*
    Apple's PR team: yikes

  • @shivenpatel4039
    @shivenpatel4039 3 년 전 +4

    Him: touchscreen Mac are coming
    Me: looks at my XP’s 13 hackintosh with airbar

  • @redman2751
    @redman2751 3 년 전 +6

    I like your idea of a touch screen laptop that can be separated and run as a tablet on its own. In tablet mode it would convert to iPad os and in laptop mode it’d be Big Sur or whatever they call it.

  • @shreyasundarrajan9709
    @shreyasundarrajan9709 3 년 전 +261

    "its not perfect ....... but its better than nothing."
    why isn't that sad🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

    • @GabrieleBonetti
      @GabrieleBonetti 3 년 전

      ewww

    • @cat-.-
      @cat-.- 3 년 전 +6

      Apple in a sentence

    • @meeblings6
      @meeblings6 3 년 전 +11

      cat -.- there are a lot of tech companies you could say match that statement before apple

    • @noname_atall
      @noname_atall 3 년 전

      @@cat-.- have my like, if i could give you two, i would.

    • @MadelnMachines
      @MadelnMachines 3 년 전 +2

      That's Apples new marketing slogan

  • @lhenn_
    @lhenn_ 3 년 전 +284

    I don't need a Macbook that I can use with my finger... Macs have one of the greatest trackpad out there on the market... Why should I lift my arm up to tip the screen?! I don't get it...

    • @Macorian
      @Macorian 3 년 전 +25

      Because it will make sense with some apps. Hope you'll get it at some point.

    • @lhenn_
      @lhenn_ 3 년 전 +23

      @@Macorian This is my personal opinion. iPads for finger control, macs for mouse and keyboard...

    • @DISTRICTOVERDOSE
      @DISTRICTOVERDOSE 3 년 전 +1

      cuz im changing positions

    • @flightsimxfsx
      @flightsimxfsx 3 년 전 +19

      Macorian different types of hardware should have apps that are optimised for that hardware. Hope you’ll get it at some point.

    • @Jan-wm8xx
      @Jan-wm8xx 3 년 전 +22

      Agreed, Mac trackpad feels like touch without the fingers on screen.

  • @joecool2162
    @joecool2162 3 년 전

    Great video, one of your best yet. Snazzy!

  • @twistmint1346
    @twistmint1346 3 년 전

    Enjoyed the commentary. Always good to hear well thought out opinions. Thank you.

  • @davidfrischknecht8261
    @davidfrischknecht8261 3 년 전 +71

    Even when I've had a touchscreen laptop, I've never used the touchscreen functionality. To me, touch functionality should be left for devices that are held in the hand like tablets and phones.

    • @alhdgysz
      @alhdgysz 3 년 전 +1

      It is a comfort feature.

    • @geos1215
      @geos1215 3 년 전 +2

      Err.. or for screens that can go (almost) horizontal. :)
      As he said in the video, to have touch as the *only* input - yes, bad. But to just have it there as "option" - there are times when a scroll, a swipe is much easier than using the mouse.

    • @briant.
      @briant. 3 년 전

      I have a laptop with touch screen and I use it all the time

  • @victormejia2983
    @victormejia2983 3 년 전 +81

    What Steve said is always misrepresented. He was talking about having a touch screen that needed a stylus to work. That’s what he was against.

    • @egyptik
      @egyptik 3 년 전 +13

      No, he actually said both. The stylus comment was during the launch op the first iPhone (2007). The comment regarding touch screen on desktops, as shown in this video, was much later in 2010/2011

    • @MisterRandom101
      @MisterRandom101 3 년 전 +9

      @@egyptik The world has changed so much since 2011. I bet if he were alive today he would actively support the Apple pencil.

    • @rishabhbaidya9494
      @rishabhbaidya9494 3 년 전 +1

      @@MisterRandom101 So, in essence, a hypocrite?

    • @jonahhammond1360
      @jonahhammond1360 2 년 전

      @@rishabhbaidya9494 no…? What Steve said was relevant to the times. He said he didn’t
      Ike music streaming but back then music streaming was slow, expensive, and had poor quality. Now it’s much faster, cheaper, and that allows people to have more permanent music library. He was against a stylus in iPad because back then a pencil could only do as much as a finger could do, but now the Apple Pencil allows for sensitivity, and many more options. He was against a touchscreen on laptops because back then you would have to reach up to the screen to use it, but now laptops can fold in multiple directions. Times change, obviously Steve would approve if he was around to see it.

  • @ynot22tony
    @ynot22tony 3 년 전

    Finally original thoughtful content which is not just a regurgitation of all reviews which all suck.

  • @Y-two-K
    @Y-two-K 3 년 전

    I've seen your videos, but the intro in this one convinced me to finally subscribe.

  • @joefilter2923
    @joefilter2923 3 년 전 +85

    When I was using a touch screen on windows and an iPhone, I found a started touching the screen automatically when using a MacBook.

    • @Devo_gx
      @Devo_gx 3 년 전 +2

      It was like trying to “click” the trackpad on a Windows machine after using a Mac several years ago (when Windows machines always had buttons below the trackpad for left/right click)

    • @tedubadu2536
      @tedubadu2536 3 년 전 +6

      I'm the other way. Fingerprints are my worst nightmare on my laptop screen

    • @HAWXLEADER
      @HAWXLEADER 3 년 전 +2

      They have a damn flush glass screen that screams I'm a touch screen!

    • @BBSHOCKZ
      @BBSHOCKZ 3 년 전

      @@HAWXLEADER right!

    • @JimiJamma
      @JimiJamma 3 년 전 +2

      Just having an iPad, I’ve found myself at work wondering why the monitor wasn’t responding to my touch as well on my MacBook at home, now and then!

  • @dominicskywalker
    @dominicskywalker 3 년 전 +43

    When you’re using a touchscreen on a laptop don’t people put their elbow on a desk like a pivot when using it? Instead of having your whole arm in the air?

    • @sensiblewheels
      @sensiblewheels 3 년 전

      Haha. Yes.

    • @jasonlast7091
      @jasonlast7091 3 년 전

      I generally sit my laptop on my lap.

    • @nothumanlol
      @nothumanlol 3 년 전 +1

      still tiring

    • @DaniBarca
      @DaniBarca 3 년 전 +2

      Still not ideal. That's why I did not like iPad for working. Now that they allow mouse input the experience is much better.

  • @YTBKd
    @YTBKd 3 년 전

    I was about 70% sure that this would be a clickbait video. Still opened it and was amazed with detailed explanation. Very good content. Subbing. Keep up the good work!

  • @LarryMcLarren
    @LarryMcLarren 3 년 전

    11:48 "So, like Windows 10, but not crap" At that point, I double checked to make sure I gave this video the like it deserved 😂😂😂

  • @akirareiko
    @akirareiko 3 년 전 +13

    You made me smile after you started playing the keynote with Craig and kept going haha massive like!

  • @jplisboa
    @jplisboa 3 년 전 +154

    There’s also the third option: macOS on iPad Pros.

    • @someoneelse354
      @someoneelse354 3 년 전 +3

      Very likely to me

    • @iliyangeo
      @iliyangeo 3 년 전 +11

      I've had no interest in iPad Pro yet, but if this happens, I'll be among the first on the queue.

    • @nc9604
      @nc9604 3 년 전

      Espen Fredrick or make ipad os a half and half of macos and ios

    • @macstark5085
      @macstark5085 3 년 전 +1

      please let that be true.

    • @subjord
      @subjord 3 년 전 +5

      No need to completely let them converge. Just allow all Mac Apps (including Terminal) to run on iPadOS.

  • @ruggieru
    @ruggieru 3 년 전 +1

    I like your the way you present the information! Well done Snazzy! *****

  • @MrUkielover
    @MrUkielover 3 년 전 +40

    "Lifting my arm up & down is ergonomically terrible"
    ...every wife after the 1st year of marriage

    • @tuhinmia1967
      @tuhinmia1967 3 년 전 +1

      I don't need a Macbook that I can use with my finger... Macs have one of the greatest trackpad out there on the market... Why should I lift my arm up to tip the screen?! I don't get it...

    • @camberwellcarrot7524
      @camberwellcarrot7524 3 년 전

      Even on your birthday?

    • @likearollingstone007
      @likearollingstone007 2 년 전

      Underrated

  • @buccob
    @buccob 3 년 전 +9

    I've been enjoying productivity and making content with Surfaces since 2015 (Pro 3 and Book). You really hit the nail when you said that having the OPTION to use the touchscreen is the way to go... even my wife with her Surface Laptop 2 uses the touchscreen from time to time, for quick brush edits in images, or selecting options while lying in bed. It is not ergonomic from desktop postures, but it is MORE ergonomic in certain situations.
    So yeah what you describe is evidence that they are planning to release a touchscreen Mac.

  • @miharimamyrajaonison1261

    I love the contents your produce ! So insightful ! As far as I'm concerned, I don't like touch input for desktop or laptop computing. I am convinced it slows down the process and I never liked machine with touchscreen (battery life issues, miss clicks and so on). I prefer Windows approach of the touchscreen, desktop computing requires mouse input so they keep the ergonomics for the mouse. With Big Sur, Apple is shifting away from the mouse and as a result, shifting away from desktop users. Anyhow, you're doing an amazing work !

  • @anthonyhobday
    @anthonyhobday 3 년 전 +5

    "Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts." - Sherlock Holmes

  • @johnsavard7583
    @johnsavard7583 3 년 전 +3

    Great detective work. And indeed, since all iPad applications will be available by default, and a lot of them need multitouch, that indeed is the deciding factor for a company that insists on quality in its products! I think you've nailed it.

  • @AuthenTech
    @AuthenTech 3 년 전 +266

    Yuck... that spacing is horrendous. I really hope they offer us a Compact Density setting...

    • @ex0stasis72
      @ex0stasis72 3 년 전 +3

      I'm sure there will be 3rd party tools if Apple doesn't that make the spacing more compact. I don't know if it's because MacOS is just really easy for developers to make customizations like that or because the MacOS market that is willing to spend money on apps is so large that developers find a way to do the impossible so often anyway.

    • @sandi260
      @sandi260 3 년 전 +1

      your face

    • @NicheAsQuiche
      @NicheAsQuiche 3 년 전 +3

      settings? on an apple product?

    • @ex0stasis72
      @ex0stasis72 3 년 전 +6

      @@NicheAsQuiche Of course MacOS has lots of settings. It even lets you swap modifier keys and swap caps lock with the esc key. You'd need 3rd party software to do that on Windows (or at least without having to use PowerShell commands)

    • @ex0stasis72
      @ex0stasis72 3 년 전

      @@NicheAsQuiche Settings on iOS, lol in your dreams.

  • @NoGames749
    @NoGames749 3 년 전 +28

    USB C port destruction at 1:53 :D

  • @langolier9
    @langolier9 3 년 전

    It took me four minutes to realize that you both know what you’re talking about and quite amusing and how you explain it so ......good job

  • @aycajr
    @aycajr 3 년 전 +2

    I almost never write comments due to the fact, how can one, filter through thousands of comments? Unless you have a dedicated team helping you with that, not sure if that is the case, I’d say it’s a very hard thing to do. So it would almost be like talking to yourself. However, I’d say this is one of your best works on reviews.
    I am sorry but some of what you say, others reviewers said before, some it’s kinda like obvious and some videos are just ok.
    But sometimes you just wake up with the perfect ideas in regards something and write about them, even if it’s on a course of a few days. You nailed almost everything about it. I am not saying you don’t put your heart into your work on the other videos. What I am saying is that this one clearly is one of your best pieces and I must commend you for that.
    You also made a good point when you went on your Time Machine and showed us Steve Jobs’ words in regards ergonomics referring to a Mac only touch screen (which he was right - sorry - if that’s the only way, like him, I do believe your arm would fall off just by touching the screen and back to the keyboard hundreds or thousands of times a day) and then you made a perfect point that the interface should be some sort of a hybrid, kinda like Microsoft which it’s very hard to do (not implying they have the best way of interacting w both in anyway, perhaps they’re also in that same learning curve), the way Apple does thing. ‘Just right’. Even if it takes a bit to get it right but end up perfecting it. In this one, I can say you put your heart into it and took your time reviewing it with outstanding points not raised by any of the other major reviewers. Congratulations.

  • @ZhengZL69
    @ZhengZL69 3 년 전 +134

    "It's not perfect, but is better than nothing"
    Laughs in iPhone 12 not coming with a charger

    • @nazimali7942
      @nazimali7942 3 년 전 +4

      Better than nothing in a box.

    • @1oVVa
      @1oVVa 3 년 전 +2

      @@nazimali7942 that's for iPhone 13

    • @ghejnuni
      @ghejnuni 3 년 전 +2

      What about iphone 14 you may ask? The box starts at $100, the phone starts at $2000 and the charger start at $300

    • @guspaz
      @guspaz 3 년 전 +1

      I already have a drawer full of iPhone and USB chargers, what do I need another one for?

    • @nomanCyclewala
      @nomanCyclewala 3 년 전

      @@guspaz you might already have a drawer full of iphones too. why would you want another one 😂

  • @ThisIsTechToday
    @ThisIsTechToday 3 년 전 +124

    So good. Spot on 👏

  • @NewRepublicMapper
    @NewRepublicMapper 3 년 전

    Your Pronounciation of Sur Is Perfect

  • @bitrot42
    @bitrot42 3 년 전 +9

    It’s gonna be the biggest thing since Windows 8!
    Macs have the best trackpads in the universe. It’s a shame we won’t have precise stuff to precisely click on anymore...

  • @LordTechPro
    @LordTechPro 3 년 전 +89

    Snazzy Labs: "macOS Big Sur"
    KRplus captions: "Big Sewer" got it

    • @Todrick451
      @Todrick451 3 년 전 +3

      he keeps saying "sewer"... it's one syllable, "Sir" like "Surf" with no F

    • @impendio
      @impendio 3 년 전 +1

      He is pronouncing Sur right if you consider it is a spanish word, it’s closer in sound to Soup than it is to Surf, it’s actually just like soup but with an R at the end.

    • @AlejandroS-mh5gm
      @AlejandroS-mh5gm 3 년 전 +1

      impendio no you don’t say sour in Spanish

    • @LordTechPro
      @LordTechPro 3 년 전 +1

      @@Todrick451 Exactly

    • @LordTechPro
      @LordTechPro 3 년 전 +1

      @@drewthor That might be the reason, but he should pronounce it the way Craig Federighi does as "Big Sur"

  • @ACallander22
    @ACallander22 3 년 전 +32

    Closed Caption On: "then we've got big sewer" 🤣

    • @bluephreakr
      @bluephreakr 3 년 전 +3

      Drain the swamp! Make computing great again!

  • @snowzZzZz
    @snowzZzZz 3 년 전 +1

    That is actually the reason why I've never owned a touchscreen laptop aside from the fact that a bug lands on it and it's receiving false inputs, my wrist/arm hurts in a short span of time and it usually isn't the best means of input. It can be nice to have though, I mainly like the added build quality and screen clarity, though it's one more thing to crack and it adds extra weight.

  • @pwells2389
    @pwells2389 3 년 전

    Nice analysis snazzy

  • @ItsAkile
    @ItsAkile 3 년 전 +19

    Touch on desktop is also dumb to me when I can just use the mouse, there is however a few of use cases including drawing/ios apps. long time ipad user as well and I really believe in dedicated hardware

    • @GregConquest
      @GregConquest 3 년 전 +1

      Occasional gestures on the screen could be very useful. Think about zooming in and out on maps (or 3D/virtual models). Sometimes just a few multi-touches on the screen gives a lot more control. ... But as soon as Macs get touch, you know users will ask for a 360-hinge -- or a detachable henge. I could see this evolution getting to a 360 degree hinge, but it just seems absurd to have both Mac and iPadOS tablets. ......... Could there eventually be a unified AppleOS -- one that customized its interface to the device it was running on?

  • @mattwinward3168
    @mattwinward3168 3 년 전 +33

    8:15 the WiFi switch button breaks apples catalyst guidelines as well.
    Edit: I don’t think Apple is preparing for touchscreen macs, I think they’re preparing for touch-space Apple Glasses.

    • @vasasv6848
      @vasasv6848 3 년 전 +4

      matt winward - yes, like the different icons (including battery one). They are testing and adjusting AR glasses recognition for icons and interface 😎

    • @justplainlawr
      @justplainlawr 3 년 전 +2

      you made it that far into the video?

    • @misterfung
      @misterfung 3 년 전

      Yeah.

    • @peterwindle4453
      @peterwindle4453 3 년 전

      as well as gesture controls... they are very much in support of accessibility on Mac. Formatting the Mac OS layout more like iOS makes this easier for a lot of people to navigate.

  • @CesarTreetops
    @CesarTreetops 9 개월 전 +3

    Now it seems these UI changes were in preparation for the new "spacial computing" in the VisionOS and such

  • @KyleReynaert
    @KyleReynaert 3 년 전 +15

    9:45 i see that sneaky little unc0ver app in there ;)

    • @AldoPratama
      @AldoPratama 3 년 전 +1

      Kyle Reynaert cydia and new term too

  • @deathsyth8888
    @deathsyth8888 3 년 전 +141

    "Jobs was wrong."
    - Snazzy Labs

    • @Silver_x86
      @Silver_x86 3 년 전 +13

      He's been wrong dozens of times, if anyone ever did a little research, that is.

    • @psyberpirate
      @psyberpirate 3 년 전 +11

      "Einstein was wrong."
      - Sam Witwicky

    • @PanKosiu
      @PanKosiu 3 년 전 +2

      Famous Last Words.

    • @deathsyth8888
      @deathsyth8888 3 년 전

      @@Silver_x86 I was highlighting the "infallibility" of Steve Jobs by some of the Apple faithful by taking the quote out of context and making a joke along the way. Sorry if it came off as misinformed.

    • @borgranta61103
      @borgranta61103 3 년 전

      The video appears to me to admit Jobs was right in not allowing a touch screen to become the primary interface and yet was wrong by not allowing a touch screen to become a supplemental interface. In other words Jobs was both 100% right and 100% wrong.

  • @august1871
    @august1871 3 년 전 +3

    Saving this for when the touch Mac comes out. I think you've nailed it here, Nostradamus.
    Sub earned!

  • @AlessandroManuelPerezPanama

    man good video and good thinking! congrats

  • @JujuLand0
    @JujuLand0 3 년 전

    Currently, if you are not on a late enough version of MacOS, some web applications will not install or run. What if we want to avoid Big Sur, would we be eventually still have to to remain useable? Would certain mac applications downloaded from the web not be able to run at all, or have to redesign? How would this affect the mac pro?

  • @JP-sw5ho
    @JP-sw5ho 3 년 전 +19

    I actually find the menu items frustratingly small on a 4K iMac, especially with the trackpad. Also can’t the Magic Trackpad do the multitouch thing for iOS apps?
    That said you’ve convinced me

    • @loveiphones4550
      @loveiphones4550 3 년 전 +2

      Just because it has iOS apps doesn't mean it will have a touch screen. Just look at chromeboks 😂😂

  • @T-WaL
    @T-WaL 3 년 전 +45

    When Steve Jobs announced the iPhone he said it runs OS X. This is old news!

    • @noneofyourbuisness7
      @noneofyourbuisness7 3 년 전 +2

      Yes and no. Some of the background definitely made it over. But given the X86 nature of OSX (until Apple puts their own silicon in Macs soon) there’s still major differences. It’s not that simple

    • @MrTofu1ukr
      @MrTofu1ukr 3 년 전 +8

      @@noneofyourbuisness7 bro, you totally ruined a joke

    • @nqh4393
      @nqh4393 3 년 전 +2

      @@noneofyourbuisness7 r/woosh

    • @papa-pete
      @papa-pete 3 년 전

      if there was a joke it wasn't funny

  • @Tiddojr
    @Tiddojr 3 년 전

    Wow man, nice video, enjoyed it. Thx

  • @JoshKeatonFan
    @JoshKeatonFan 3 년 전

    I love your videos!

  • @aortizc82
    @aortizc82 3 년 전 +83

    Me after watching a few seconds: no, I don't think so.
    Me after watching the whole video: damn, they really are doing it!

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  3 년 전 +11

      Haha cheers! Thanks for watching.

    • @joemilone6
      @joemilone6 3 년 전 +2

      I saw this coming with the apple chips annouchment. Apple has been planning this for a while now.

    • @zorgius
      @zorgius 3 년 전 +1

      No, they aren't.

    • @ex0stasis72
      @ex0stasis72 3 년 전

      This comment is meme-worthy.

    • @johng9562
      @johng9562 3 년 전 +1

      Words are EXPENSIVE ~ each one spends the hearers attention until they are no longer listening. This is why less has always been more in the ART of communication.

  • @tipoomaster
    @tipoomaster 3 년 전 +40

    Imagine if they allowed you to switch to a macOS environment on the iPad Pro, suddenly it goes from the most expensive iPad to the cheapest portable mac. That would be interesting, though 4-6GB limiting under a full windowed OS perhaps.

    • @rohansampat1995
      @rohansampat1995 3 년 전 +2

      This is a terrible idea.

    • @JosiasVilbrun
      @JosiasVilbrun 3 년 전 +12

      @@rohansampat1995 yet most people would want the option. Don't be an asshole

    • @johnmacaulay9132
      @johnmacaulay9132 3 년 전

      @@JosiasVilbrun go try running a VM on a PC with 4 GB of ram and see how amazing the user experience is.
      Plus mouse and keyboard optimised apps would be basically unusable with touch only.

    • @tipoomaster
      @tipoomaster 3 년 전 +2

      @@johnmacaulay9132 Not a VM any more than Crouton is a VM, since they share much of the same codebase it's more like a different shell. And while I wouldn't do dev work on 4-6GB of RAM, it's still usable for casual use, and would make for the cheapest new portable mac.
      "Plus mouse and keyboard optimised apps would be basically unusable with touch only." Which would be why this is mostly for the bevy of keyboards and trackpads out there you can now use with the iPad.

    • @willclaxton7074
      @willclaxton7074 3 년 전

      That was what I was expecting... When you get an iPad Pro and add the Magic Keyboard to it then it turns out to be as expensive as a laptop. Given the UX changes and the power within the “pro” it would seem like a natural step. I don’t know why Apple didn’t make the Pro an optional development environment rather than having only the Mac Mini. I get that the Mini is cheaper to make and for some dev shops that price point is important but there are a lot of iPad Pros out there that could have done the job.

  • @HoldandModify
    @HoldandModify 3 년 전 +1

    Interesting theory but you’re forgetting a lot of users input device for their Macs is the built in trackpad or the Magic Track Pad. Which does much to give the same interaction feel of the iPhone and iPad.

  • @seanpaul7069
    @seanpaul7069 3 년 전

    Great content. Subbed

  • @i_maq
    @i_maq 3 년 전 +13

    Well you've convinced me, Mac Pro Touch incoming! Direct competitor to the Surface Studio, Macbook Touch and Macbook Pro Touch - detachable, Surface Book styles!

  • @quill3554
    @quill3554 3 년 전 +60

    Really interesting. I've been doubting if I should move to Apple's ecosystem, and this definitely helps.

    • @Casskario
      @Casskario 3 년 전 +6

      Does it make you go to apple or the other way around ?

    • @joshuaroney
      @joshuaroney 3 년 전 +10

      I would wait till september before making a decision (personally)

    • @ahmadalsadi1786
      @ahmadalsadi1786 3 년 전

      Me too after macos big sur i want to change from windows to mac since i have ipad pro and iphone

    • @NeedlessEscape
      @NeedlessEscape 3 년 전 +3

      I wouldnt bother. Iphones are pretty trash. Ipad pro isnt tho

    • @2by3
      @2by3 3 년 전 +1

      Surface Book owner here thinking the same, a switch would be possible if Apple makes a similar hw device. Still looking forward to see what MS is cooking with Windows 10X.

  • @azuretao
    @azuretao 3 년 전 +1

    When will it get released?

  • @donovanwilliams8607
    @donovanwilliams8607 3 년 전 +1

    After watching “Design for the iPadOS pointed” WWDC20, I suspect Apple may want to bring “adaptive precision” to macOS but not necessarily a touch UI at first. I could really see this type of of pointer behavior making the Magic Trackpad nicer to use on Mac.

  • @W--ko9ms
    @W--ko9ms 3 년 전 +13

    1:25 "we love the mac cause its expe...... " good one.

  • @roopey
    @roopey 3 년 전 +34

    They should really think about their target groups... Both PC and Mac are meant for professionals / power users. Keep the slow and often less effective touchscreen for the normal user. You need to write fast / a lot? Use a Keyboard. Mouses are also superior on large screen with lots of content. Touch makes no sense on a PC / Mac.
    I almost never use the touchscreen on my laptop. I wish I could have bought it without a touchscreen.

    • @XanarchistBlogspot
      @XanarchistBlogspot 3 년 전 +2

      For coding and writing that is certainly true. It can be useful for audio engineering if you have a lot of sliders IF the sliders are designed well. That being said I don't use the touchscreen much on my Dell Precision laptop and do use it on iPad Pro, shrug.

    • @teroojala5436
      @teroojala5436 3 년 전

      Touchscreen is nice to have, but not necessary. I use it for scrolling and some apps like Netflix. It is faster and easier than trackpad. However, i will not buy apple product until they improve multitasking and window management. Like cmd tab should show all browser windows with preview, like Windows and window snapping is a must have.

  • @cmj1993
    @cmj1993 3 년 전

    Hi Quinn! Quick question if you see this. In macOS 11, when you right click on the new app drawer folder that replaced launchpad, does it still give you list view of all apps ? Thanks

  • @rockleone1117
    @rockleone1117 3 년 전 +6

    This video just made my head spin. The whole video is just him saying, “oh this is a good thing! But then again, (something negative)”. Like 200 times 😂

  • @typingcat
    @typingcat 3 년 전 +57

    "Mouse can't replicate multi-touch"
    Well, use two mice.

    • @LEDmatrix
      @LEDmatrix 3 년 전 +2

      there also is, you know, the trackpad...

    • @user-cw3yj8jv1s
      @user-cw3yj8jv1s 3 년 전 +3

      Yeah, great idea! I'll just use that third hand I keep in my pocket for scenarios like this. Now I finally get to use that arm for my second mouse! Yay!

    • @KhairyAbdElZaher
      @KhairyAbdElZaher 3 년 전 +1

      use 10

    • @pom4408
      @pom4408 3 년 전

      @@LEDmatrix or five mini-mouse at the tip of each fingers...

    • @slipoch6635
      @slipoch6635 3 년 전

      I have a friend who can use a mouse in one hand and a graphics tablet in the other at the same time, we always joked we should get him a trackball he could use with his feet (he can draw with his feet.)

  • @slippydouglas
    @slippydouglas 3 년 전 +161

    The way he pronounces it, it sounds like he's saying *_“Big Sewer”._*

    • @monishmanjunath3432
      @monishmanjunath3432 3 년 전 +13

      To be honest I think it is supposed to be pronounced like that

    • @tqjoriam
      @tqjoriam 3 년 전 +15

      Sur is a Spanish word that means "South". He is pronouncing it like it is pronounced in Spanish. The way you pronounce it sounds like "Sir".

    • @audio01
      @audio01 3 년 전 +1

      It's not that difficult. "Sur" is a Spanish word, like Catalina or Capitán. And like any (or most) Spanish words, the pronunciation is very simple: S-U-R (where the "U" is approximated to the "U" in "put").

    • @JimiJamma
      @JimiJamma 3 년 전 +1

      How did you change Big Sewer to boldface and slanted type? Also, I’m glad to see I wasn’t the only one hearing Big Sewer!

    • @mattwinward3168
      @mattwinward3168 3 년 전 +1

      Big Sūr

  • @neiljamessloan
    @neiljamessloan 3 년 전

    Another impressive presentation and intel (no pun suggested) video. Onya Snazzy. Keep up the work to help the marketplace be informed.

  • @androneana952
    @androneana952 3 년 전

    I like this video mainly for your humour! Great job sir

  • @lennartwars
    @lennartwars 3 년 전 +38

    11:37 that's a Surface Book tho 🤓

    • @AndiKola
      @AndiKola 3 년 전 +3

      He uses mostly Apple devices. Can't really distinguish the two. lol

    • @Abisanth11
      @Abisanth11 3 년 전 +5

      I was looking for this comment 😂

  • @ruudvanoijen1844
    @ruudvanoijen1844 3 년 전 +8

    I am still with steve on this one. No stylus and no touch macbook. Thank you

  • @_j22t_
    @_j22t_ 3 년 전

    Subbed! Your sense of humor ✔️
    Knowledge ✔️
    I agree with you ✔️

  • @vcptmerica3962
    @vcptmerica3962 3 년 전 +1

    The “no.” from the keynote is a meme itself.

  • @emmabentley7945
    @emmabentley7945 3 년 전 +6

    I have to say, every time they said "Big Sur" it sounded like "Big Sewer"

  • @keysersoze_6
    @keysersoze_6 3 년 전 +10

    I'm sticking to Catalina for the moment.

  • @cfmvalizan7585
    @cfmvalizan7585 3 년 전

    I have an iPad pro 2015 and have had a pencil & keyboard since launch - i’m typing from it now, actually. I got a mouse a few years later once one was offered for use in remote desktop sessions. I love my MacBook Pro, it replaced my iPad as a primary remote work device in late 2017; but one thing I constantly try and do while using it is touch a line to start typing on, “click” something, or when I want to address a typo. It’s very difficult with how often I switch back and forth to not look for a trackpad on my iPad and want to touch my MacBook screen.

  • @ex0stasis72
    @ex0stasis72 3 년 전

    I'm super excited now! I had switched from MacOS to Windows about 2 years ago because I wanted a touchscreen laptop, but now, it appears that they are planning on making a touch screen MacBook soon.