How to Make a Neon Sign LED Part 2 (feat. CNC Cut Back Panel)
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- 게시일 2021. 09. 16.
- Here a sign maker with over 30 years experience in the field and 12 years experience selling and developing LED products for the signage industry explains how you can create a custom made LED neon sign using LED Neon Flex.
You'll need the following items:
Acrylic panel (between 5mm and 10mm thick) with your design cut out using a CNC, approximately 3.5mm deep and 6mm wide.
LED Neon Flex - we've used 6mm white neon flex with a 10mm cut point: www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk...
Tinning Cable:
www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk...
Rapid, super strength adhesive. We use MitreBond:
www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk...
End caps to seal the ends of the neon flex (www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk...)
Free form neon flex:
www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk...
www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk...
www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk...
See Part 1 of our tutorial here • How To Make a Neon Sign
Thanks for watching!
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I love how seamless the individual pieces become!
this was so straight forward and easy to follow. Thank you!!
This is an EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT Tutorial!
Thank You sir for providing these instructions.
nice
Brilliant video. Thank you so much for this quality content!
IMPRESSIVE, most helpful tutorial. Thank you!
Thank you sooo much.This was exactly what i was looking for and your way to explain things are very clear.
Thanks for the feedback, Ralf! Good luck with your projects.
Best video on LED neon by far. Thank you!!!
Thanks, Katy!!
i love this stuff, i have been using it got my RGB addressable strips to create heaps of lighting designs, running on a madrix server, triggered from my lighting console
Thank God for a detailed explanation! This was awesome. Not just some fast moving video with crappy music! I’ve subscribed!
Thanks for the nice feedback!
Very professional! Thanks for sharing
Refreshing to see a video of someone who actually knows how to do the task and who can explain it as well. So many of these videos are produced by those who are neither. Thank you sir.
Thanks for the kind feedback, Sam. We appreciate that!
Thank you so much for the demo❤
Excellent Work & Thank you for sharing
I'm glad I found your video and channel. Looking for instructions to do these signs myself to hang from inside my shop behind clear glass windows. Cheers!
Thank you! Glad it's been helpful 😄
My mind is "Open" now, thank you 👍
Glad to hear that!
Very Nicely Made 😍😍👍👍
Explained Perfectly 🙏🙏
Love from India
Very well done, you provide complete and understandable info, great job, thank you 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Thank You Spectron👍
Great video, keep it up!
This is so helpful, thank you
Perfectly done
Thank you for great tutorial!
Glad it was helpful!
excellent tutorial , thanks for doing and sharing , subbed immediately .
Thank you for great tutorial keep going 👏🏻
You're welcome 😊
Nice work, thanks.
Beautiful job.
Thank you so much
Explications trés précises et claires. Merci pour le tuto👍
Merci.
This is so good, thanks v much.
Thanks Sam 😄
Great tutorial, thanks..
Excelente presentación. Gracias por tanto. Un abrazo desde colombia.
Great job
Well done!
Excellent!
You can upload a video tutorial with the acrylic channel perforated with the cnc or laser technique so we don’t have to use the glue please?
Yes, this tutorial is using a CNC cut channel! Hope it helps
Muito top o vídeo gostei muito da sua ideia
I love this video. The best tutorial on YT. Thank you!
Question, how do you power your signs? I don't see any links to power bricks
Thanks for the positive feedback! We use desktop drivers (such as www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/48W-plug-in-power-supply-12V) or internal drivers (www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/internal-12v-60w) to power our signs. You would have to check whether these are suitable for use in your country :)
@@Spectron thanks for the fast response. Unfortunately it doesn't show any item when I brings me to your page. It must not be available for the US. No worries. I'll look for the 12v 5a setups in my area.
Thank pro great job
Great tutorial! Thank you for sharing. However, I am having a hard time finding the thin jumper wires. Could you tell me where to find them in the US, or what I should be searching for?
Great , thanks , because of you , it will be endless night without sleepeing :-)
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thank you
Good work
Hi, thank you for the video. Does it matter if we use type A or type B plug for the led neon signs?
Hi, our Winged Neon Flex is 12v so any 12v driver or plug in adaptor is fine as long as the watts are matching the total watts you use per metre of neon flex. I would recommend a constant voltage driver to power any neon flex.www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/accessories/led-drivers
Awesome! How would one go about making a sign like this weatherproof for outdoor use? Looking to make the same sign with the word “Vacancy” but would need it to be outdoor all the time.
Thanks! For external use, you need to be absolutely certain that any connection and exposed end of the neon flex has been waterproofed using waterproof end caps and silicone. We also recommend you put the sign in a Perspex box for added protection!
Hello, thanks for the video and the information! I was a bit confused about this product but your summary about its history helped me 😅. Quick question, where do you buy your free form neon flex? I’m looking for it in Chinese stores (AliExpress, Temu) but i haven’t found the specific “free-form” version of it.
Hello David, you can purchase this online here www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/leds/led-neon-flex/8mm-freeform or email us at sales@spectronled.co.uk. Thanks!
When you design your grooves, is the length of the channels calculated so that the cut marks on the strip line up perfectly at the ends?
It's near enough, but not exact as you can cut the side of the neon to expose the solder pads then close it back up again
good work
Buen trabajo.👍. Que fuente de letra usaste ?
Awesome" I like the way u teach thanks I seriously want too learn from u
Thanks for sending us that nice feedback! We are here to help, so reach out if you have any questions :)
I missed the power consumption or voltage requirement if any. What's too much a 9 volt, 12 volt? Is a USB 5 volt enough?
This is so beautiful. subbed, liked, and definitely checking out more of your stuff
Thank you for your kind comments.
Nice Job! I also would love to see how you do the cnc part. Until then would you please share which font you are using? Thx
We designed the font in house :)
@@Spectron but since you also sell the router bit are you able to show us how you make the channel and how you cut around the letters. Thank you!!! Will be buying the part from you guys.
Thanks you so much
The acrylic panel is between 5 and 10 mm thick. In this video example, what is the width and length of the acrylic panel?
Thank you so much for your insight. Your video is very well done and the sign looks amazing.
I had a couple of questions. I am planning to make a beautiful sign for Jesus as part of our Christmas decorations. You inspired that decision a few months ago when I stubbled upon this video. I have nearly all the info I need but I curious about how much larger should the acrylic be than the lettering. I imagine that will have to do somewhat with the size of the sign and I expect the letters to each be about 16 inches (40 cm) tall and the sign to be roughly 4' x 4' (122cm x 122cm) As you can imagine I want it to look great but cannot afford to make it twice. Can you give me some insight into how the width of the surrounding acrylic will impact the way it looks?
Also what steps can I take to minimize issues with the wet weather in a climate where temperatures get close to zero ( -17 Celcius)
Thank you for the kind feedback, Doug. The size of the acrylic panel is down to personal preference - you could keep it close to the neon flex if you wanted, or allow a border. If you're using clear acrylic it wont really be noticeable when the light is on. If you are drilling fixing holes, you'll need to allow room for these. Regarding your questions on minimizing issues with wet weather, we recommend you put the acrylic sign in a clear box and seal any joins, or cable entries. Given the cold temperature you will need to check the working temperature of any adhesive you are using, and consider securing the neon with wire as a failsafe. We are currently checking the working temperature for our neon to see if -17 degrees would affect it.
Amazing
Thank you! Cheers!
In terms of the cut point being 10mm apart, what is the best thing to do if the point I need to cut sits in the middle of that? Cut it shorter and have a 5mm gap either end of the length? (I may be misunderstanding it though). Similar question re trimming the bits that meet at a cross roads - can it just be cut ad-hoc or does it need to align with a cut point?
Cheers, great vid.
Good question Rich. We cut it ad hoc, so that the neon doesn't come up short at cross joins or ends. We cut into the side of the silicone tube to get access to the solder points. Once we have soldered our cable on, we then close the tube back up and glue it together. As the cut is on the side, it's not really visible when glued back together. We only recommend you do this if it's an internal sign with no chance of water ingress.
Nice video, what program do you use to design the text or artwork that also is compatible with a CNC machine? Be interesting to also see a video on this side of things 👍🏼
Thank you we just use Adobe Illustrator for our artwork and that is easily imported into V carve.
Thanks nice and easy way👍👍👍
Thanks for liking
hi awesome video and tutorial. really interested in ordering some materials from you guys. where abouts can i get the acrylic cnc cut?
You can try your local sign maker or trade supplier to sign makers
Nice tutorial
Thank you! Cheers!
@@Spectron WLCM
Look cool bro
May I know the name of the font? Nice font indeed!
buen trabajo¡¡🙂
Good luck bro 😍👌
Nice, Superb..
Thanks a lot
Great video. Thank you. Question though. Is there anywhere that sell the pre groved backs already made so I can just finish it up or is there someone that does this sort of thing to order?
Hi you could purchase the CNC router bit and then anyone in your local area with a CNC machine could produce the back panel for you. Spec available here www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/accessories/tools/CNC-Cutter
Great info !!! Whats kind of cleaner do you use ?
The best way to clean these plastics is with a clean microfibre cloth and water. Always use a liquid of some sort - plain water is best or if you need some soap, just a mild detergent diluted in water will also be fine.
Wow, brilliant video.
I've clicked the link for the 5mm but no product showing? 🤔
Do you have another link?
Also what else do I need, neon led, end caps, mitre bond, tinning cable & power supply? Thanks
Hi MK, apologies, the link for the mini neon has now been uppated! (www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/winged-neon-flex). And yes, the other components needed are tinning cable, power supply, end caps, mitreBond (if not using our cnc cutter), and a back panel.
@@Spectron hi thanks for that but link still not working. Saying page not found 🤔
Great tutorial. May I ask what machine you are using to cut and add the groove to the acrylic?
Hi, it's an XYZ CNC machine
@@Spectron Thank you!
@@Spectron Thank you for such a useful video. Would this work with a laser cutter as opposed to a CNC router? How important is the actual groove?
Hello, Thanks for the good video, Is there a tutorial on how to do the design on corel draw or AI and transfer this to g code of the cnc machine ?
Hi Ben thank you for your comment, Unfortunately no we do not have a tutorial on how to design but I'm pretty sure they will be lots of videos already uploaded to KRplus.
Our Neon flex is designed for outdoor use as it is IP67 rated. Just make sure that any connections are fully encased in a silicone end cap with silicone gel inside to prevent any salty air or water getting near the connections.
Who is the manufacturer of this 'Free Form LED Neon' that you are using? I like that it stays to the form you bend it to. Great video!
Hi! You can purchase from our website, ledsignsandlighting.co.uk. We ship worldwide!
how does this kind of sign do outdoors? does silicone degrade in UV? I was thinking of this for a boat
How deep are you machining the acrylic for the channel and what thickness material do you typically start with? At the moment we do most of our signs with 3d printing but I have a large CNC router for our larger signs but have yet to use acrylic backers.
Hi we machine to a depth of 3.5mm
Hello there!! what model of the machine do you use to cut the acrylic or what machine for starting do you recomend? Im new on this.Thanks!
Love this font! what's it called? Subscribed!
Thanks Stefano! We created that font inhouse 😊 The whole set of the letters, caps, lowercase and numbers are available for £75 if you are interested
Great job, but one question
As far as i know neon leds can be cut into 2.5cm pieces meaning that each segment should be a multiple of 2.5cm in terms of length, how can i measure that when im designing the sign? Because i cant cut the strip at middle of those 2.5cm parts so its gonna be short or excess if i don’t design the acrylic sheet grooving length
Our neon flex has cut points / solder pads every 10mm interval. You can cut the neon anywhere really, as long as you miss the actual led chip. If you cant access the solder pad, just cut the silicone tube to expose it, solder the cable, then seal the tube back up with glue.
Spectron LED thanks :))
Hi what type of glue you use?
We use UNIKA's Mitre Bond a two part adhesive with a activator pen that accelerates curing to bond instantly. Can be found here www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/accessories/neon-flex-accessories/mitrebond-single
Great video but where do you get the plastic and what machine do you use to cut the design
We get the acrylic from local trade suppliers and a flatbed router cuts out the plastic
Great video can I ask the font you used for this ? Many thanks
Hi Dan, This font is something we have just drawn ourselves.
Great work you're doing, but i have a question, what size of acrylic sheet are you using I'm guessing it's a 4mm? Is it?
Hi Sharo, we use a 5mm acrylic back panel.
@@Spectron thank you so much, what about the wires what type of wires are you guys using?
@@sharoburhan7028 pre-soldered cables, 28 AWG
i wish you could show up how the wiring goes from one to another more bit closer,
Wow, so that's how the professionals do it. Can you connect multiple pieces of neon flex in parallel? is it designed to keep the same tone, or brightness if multiple pieces of different length are connected in parallel?
Hi Adrian, yes you can but you will need to power them from both ends to ensure no fall off in colour.
@@Spectron Thanks very much for the response. That's what I was hoping to avoid :D Trying to cut my soldering in half. I have many, many joints to do.
@@adrianvanderzandt4310 Good luck with it! If you have any other questions, feel free to get in touch 😊
Nice vid...what is the thickness of the acrylic?? And how deep was the cutpoint??
We use a 5mm thick acrylic and the cut point for the neon flex is every 10mm
@@Spectron hi...i mean how deep is the engrave on the acrylic..thanks for your response.. Appreaciate it..
@@skrrskrrzone Hi there, it's about 3.5mm deep 😊
good~~~~~👍👍👍
Please could you show the Cnc and cad part. I am looking to make this but unsure how to create the offset from the font before cutting on my Cnc
Hi Marc, we don't have any plans to show the artwork side at the moment, but there are lots of tutorials on how to use Adobe Illustrator already on KRplus. We also outsource our CNC cutting to a third party.
How deep do you recommend the channel be? Will a 4mm thick board with 1mm deep channels work?
We use a 5mm panel with a 3.5mm deep channel, but it's down to personal choice. Some of our customers prefer a thicker panel, say 10mm with a deeper channel to that you can barely see the sides of the neon
You should make a tutorial how to design the letters of the word
merci
HI PLEASE CAN YOU SHOW HOW TO DESIGN AND CUT ACRYLIC FOR NEON?
Hi! Please see our new tutorial, How to Create a CNC Cutting File in Adobe Illustrator - krplus.net/bidio/j9ejoap8g6isaJw
Hi 👋🏻 is a Cnc cut channel different from a laser cut channel? Also, what software do you use for the artwork?
Hi H D, yes a CNC allows you to cut a channel into a panel to a specified depth. The neon sits in this channel.
Could you do a video on designing the artwork for CNC cutting?
We've no plans to do any videos on this at the moment. We use Adobe Illustrator and you should be able to find lots of beginners tutorials already on KRplus :)
beautiful sign
Excuse me, can you tell me what the font is?
Hi, thanks! We made this font in-house 😄
Can please which Cnc router you used or which one you recommend? Thank you
Hi Adbul, we recommend you use our special CNC cutter www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/winged-neon-flex-CNC-cutter and the winged neon flex for fast and easy installation of neon flex. We will publish a new video on these products soon so you can see how they work.
please show us how to design and what program do you use
We've no plans to make any videos on the design process at the moment! We use Adobe Illustrator and you should be able to find lots of tutorials on KRplus to help
this is great, May I know how do you know how much to buy LED strips? and how do you measure your acrylic sheet, I am trying to make a sign as smallest as possible with RGB NEON FLEX and another one with NEON strings, but I don't know how can I do the math, can you please help?
Hi Danial, we plan our designs using Adobe Illustrator then take all of our measurements from there. Hope that helps!
@@Spectron even for the length of the neon? Can you please DM me, I really want to do this but I am struggling how much neon I need to buy
@@danialbakhsheshi9064 You can print out your design on paper, then use string to follow the path the LED’s will take.
Then measure the string to get your approximate length.
@@sar2908 thank you
@@danialbakhsheshi9064 alternatively you can measure the length of a path in adobe illustrator, this tutorial explains how: krplus.net/bidio/f66GnKh8a4-uiYY
What temperature do you like to solder at?
600
600 or 1000 watts
Where did you bought the machine to cut the acrilic??
What size is this particular neon flex 6mm X 12mm ?
Do you ever use brackets or would you say the glue is just as sturdy as using brackets?
If using a flat panel, we tend to only use glue, but there is nothing to stop you using fixing brackets as well!
nice