Looking Back At The CRAZY Andrew Wiggins Trade, 2 Years Later
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- 게시일 2022. 01. 27.
- Nearly two years ago (February 6th, 2020), the Timberwolves and Warriors made a surprise trade that quickly became one of the most polarizing moves in recent memory. I say surprising because even though there was A LOT of buzz around the Timberwolves acquiring D’Angelo Russell at the time - even going back to the prior offseason, in which he was free agent - it seemed like trade talks between the two teams had stalled.
We were focused on other things during that 2020 trade deadline - like Andre Drummond getting dumped on the Cavs in exchange for nothing (remember that?) or the Clippers acquiring Marcus Morris from the Knicks… but the most interesting deal was yet to come.
In the end, the Warriors convinced the Timberwolves to send them Andrew Wiggins (and the massive max contract he came with), along with a protected 1st round pick in exchange for D’Angelo Russell.
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Man you have really leveled these videos up in 2022! Entertaining, informative and very good pacing on them. Salute
Doing my best, thank you!
@@SportingLogically for real I love the short to no intro. The pacing starts quicker but burns at a steady pace.
Facts.
@@bullshark3771 for real! It’s zero filler on these videos, which makes people want to watch.
@@mr.t-real2009 exactly
And he was the second most important player to win the championship this year. Thanks, Timberwolves!
As a celtics fan, Wiggins defense was incredible through the whole series.
The Timberwolves have helped the Warriors build a dynasty for 13 years now. Thank you, Minnesota!
@@ninjaundermyskin True what a big mistake
@@ninjaundermyskin Right! Because they passed on Steph when they had the chance to draft him.
I thought for sure he was going to be finals MVP
Here after spectacular night from Wiggins against Boston game 5
Scoring 26 points 13 rebound
As a Wolves fan, I think it's a win-win. DLo's new defensive impact (weird to say) and playmaking stabilize this team. He essentially is the quarterback of our defense and offense, communicating and getting people where they need to be. Wiggins has been great this year for the Warriors, something he would never have done here. Frustrated that's the case but happy for him.
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100 plus Edwards over Melo
exactly i think he is really good for us i think tucker has a thing against the wolves though honestly he never misses an opportunity to slander us
You know D-lo got all of those knowledge because he played a year in the warriors system.
@@jaketheslumpgod the wolves aren’t doing anything with dlo as a major piece and kat as number 1. He’s too nice, kat is to the wolves what AD was to the the pelicans, great talent that can’t carry a team to anything meaningful. Put a cutthroat competitor capable of being that number 1 guy (*cough* jimmy butler *cough*) and yeah, the wolves are dangerous. But come on lol the warriors picked on the little guy desperate to get a mid tier pg talent to keep kat around that they traded way too much, as exemplified by them throwing in the first rounder last second. Leave it to the wolves to be in a situation like that where mental gymnastics somehow justifies the trade being a win. Just because it helped you doesn’t mean it didn’t help your opponent much more, thus creating an even greater separation of talent, making your chances even worse. I’m sorry but it’s just facts.
Both teams benefitted from that trade.
The biggest steal here is Kuminga who the Dubs drafted thanks to that pick. But overall the Wolves needed an all star level pg and the dubs needed an elite wing defender who could score
Kuminga is massively underrated its crazy
It's win-super win situation so it's a low key loss. Dlo vs kuminga and Wiggins
Nah, Warriors won that trade
@@Nazoto wiggins is just straight up better than dlo he’s not even on the wolves no more
The wolves have more hope than the kings have ever had this century
That’s not saying much
@@poonking3628 it’s sad
The Kings had a realistic chance to go to the finals during the century though
@@lucaslonchampt613 04 wolves
@@lucaslonchampt613 If Sam Cassell wasn’t injured, we would have gone to the finals where the Wolves have a favorable matchup against Detroit since we don’t have a player whois gonna shoot 36%fg like Kobe did in the finals (maybe Sprewell but he’s not gonna shoot 23x a night). Plus, the Wallaces ain’t stopping MVP KG since he cooked them in the regular season with a regular season sweep.
Dlo has been so important to this team, been a team leader and vocal leader, great chemistry with teammates and our best shot creator. Defending has been ok but better, the team plays sooooo much better when he is healthy and on the floor. Got to give him some credit.
Wiggs was never gonna get better with us, it was a dead end and both teams got a better fit and got the players back on track.
It was Dlo for Wiggins and Kuminga lmao
@@yrh3702 and Kuminga is ass lol most overrated rookie in the league
@@JustBoredBru remember you said this 😭
Dlo is more of a leader
@@dangerzone3470 dude deleted his comment 😆 🤣
Yeah... this shows that no one watches wolves games. Dlo is probably the reason why this team is doing well defensively... not to mention when he doesn't play, the team is lost both offensively and defensively and loses games eventually. As soon as Dlo was out of the game vs GS last game, they just crumbled because their defensive rotations were so late and couldn't get easy open looks on offense. This man is easily an all star if you look at "impact on winning" like ppl do with Wiggs but since he plays in a small market and for a franchise that has been considered poverty forever, no one cares. Tragic.
This right here is money. I can tell you watch alot of wolves games, as do I. Dlo is so crucial to this team winning and people have no idea.
He's not an all star cause y'all are like the 12th seed or something 🤣☹️
He's not an all star cause y'all are like the 12th seed or something 🤣☹️
@@yrh3702 bro get a gym membership
@@yrh3702 We were as high as 7th seed and currently 8th seed...
Russell has really been great this year, he really improved his defense and passing, which you neglected to mention
The point is that Wiggs is still way better on both sides of the court and yet the Wolves gave up the Kuminga pick to downgrade to DLo.
That’s because he doesn’t actually watch Timberwolves games, along with 99% of NBA “media” & content creators
@@baz1184 We never downgraded though, at the time Dlo didnt really fit well with the Warriors system and needed time to adjust to it (played a total of 33 games with the Warriors). I'd still take Dlo over Wiggs any day given how inconsistent Wiggs was on the team and while Dlo can still be inconsistent offensively, he still has a much bigger impact compared Wiggins when he was here. Our offensive rating and Defensive Rating literally plummets when Dlo is out and it's obvious we need him. As for the pick, it had to be included, Wiggs could have been a bust and Im sure the Warriors Front office forced our front office to give it up, we were definitely close to keeping the pick if we didnt go on a winning streak
@@baz1184 we improved
He’s also acting like Wiggins became a true ALL STAR as if he’s a top 20 player in the league. Which he is not. He’s an nba all star right now bc he’s on a team with a global fan base and the majority of the calculation for all star is simply fan voting. The team has tons of fans who vote for players that haven’t even played in the season as long as they wear their jersey. It’s a global fan base. That’s the ONLY reason Wiggins is a freaking all star. Is he having a plaid season, of course. He is not a top 20 player in the league or god even anywhere close. Which is what normally “he’s an all star” means. Tucker being Tucker, I dunno why I watch these stupid videos lol
This just goes to show that one of if not the most important factor to a player actually fulfilling their potential is how good their team's player development is
The twolves don’t have bad player development, wiggins just can’t play as a number one or two, this has been shown in the warriors, when Steph and draymond have been out wiggins hasn’t stepped up to be the leader but has played worse lol
Yep, player development is super important. And so is a good fit. Sometimes even just a change helps out a lot.
@@beinbean6952 you sure he cant play number 2, cause he sure did help my warrior's win and got a ring now
DLo is very important for the Wolves, both teams are good with each other, Edwards is growing together the other 2 great, so, to me, both teams win.
It was a fleece. Genius trade from the warriors
@@jz1075 a fleece why? Player for player both are exactly the same in importancy for the teams, and if the fleece is Kuminga, he playing 3/4, i dont see how he would be over Edwards, Vanderbilt, McDaniels or Prince in the rotation so...🤔
@@jz1075 It's a fleece by luck, not really by any form of genius.
@@jz1075 if you actually think this you’re a casual
Dlo is so underrated now it's crazy.. he runs the twolves offense greatly, he has cp3 like effect with his playmaking and his much improved defense. I would say he's the most important player on the team because the team does terrible nost of the time he's on the bench
You have never watched a wolves game. D-Lo has one of the highest +/- in the league
@@spencerj4677 i watch every wolves game what are u talkin bout?
@@beedub8161 I thought you said over rated lol. Carry on....
It's crazy how fast time flies. I remember this trade like it was yesterday.
My draft knowledge stops at Lonzo era I still sometimes forget he's not rookie anymore
@@RH-hz9ly speaking of lonzo’s era Luke Walton was such a horrible coach for the Lakers and the kings he set back lonzo from his true potential and he was a trash coach for daaron fox
That was pre-pandemic too, however I too recall the day extremely well. I was getting my car smog’d after a new battery and had to drive 100 miles to get it done but only had that day off to do it, so there was a lot of sports talk radio/podcast to be heard that afternoon for *this* guy.
At first it was just a nice fit, GSW had an aging core, and didn’t really have a forward aside from 6’6 Draymond. Wigs right off the bat was a good fit due to being a young NBA caliber starter. Having a 25yo premier athlete around Steph/Klay/Dray(all over 31yo then, now they’re pushing 34[steph]and 32[Dray+Klay]). It was great that he was still open to working on improving.
Folks forget he had about 15 games that season to familiarize himself with the system.
If you remove just Kelly Oubre’s first 10 games as a warrior, the rest of the season looks great. 17.6/6.1/1.2 on 37% from 3. He went 7/55in his first 10 games adjusting to Kerr’s system, and it was Steph’s first 10 games back from his broken hand injury that limited him to 5 games the prior season.
It’s a shame, as Oubre’s stats with those first 10 games looks bad. 15/6/1 with just over 30% from 3. It really was just a rough start with a new team, and everyone that doesn’t check game logs on basketballreference just see’s the season as a whole, but in reality Oubre was nearly as good as Wigs last year. Wigs was 2/5.2 from 3 a night, Oubre was 1.9/5.1, but Oubre doesn’t fit? I actually thought for a minute that we’d trade Wiggins for Siakam or whatever then re-sign Oubre to around $15m-$17m a year, getting near-Wiggins production from a more aggressive player(Oubre thinks he’s always the best player on the court, while coaches and trainers have said Wiggins sure is Canadian, and that he’ll apologize after dropping 40pts.) I feel like a Steph/Klay/Oubre/Siakam/Dray lineup would be just as good, if not better than anything lineup they run this year.
Oubre was 85%-90% as good as Wigs and a year younger. And this year he’s still around 12 FGA’s a game, but he finally went from 5 3PA’s and 7 2PA’s to 7 3PA’s and 5 2PA’s, which was key for him to get where he’s at now.
I’m sure Utah is kicking themselves for not trying to add Oubre last summer. He’s a great fit for them, especially after the run in they had with the Clippers in the playoffs. Ingles, Gay, Conley, and Bogdanovic are all well over 30 and offensive minded players. When Rudy’s ran off the court, 6’4 Royce O’Neal is the only legit defender left to guard wings and those 6’8 guys on the other team were fine with that setup.
Oubre would’ve been an injection of youth and athleticism akin to what Wigs adds to GSW’s aging core. Plus, I think a lineup of
Mitchell/O’Neal/Ingles/Oubre/Gay would be even better than Utah’s current small ball lineup, and they’re a top 3 offense this year. Oubre could’ve been the vertical threat and fast break monster of their dreams. Plus with having a rim protector like Gobert, Oubre and O’Neal would have free reign to go for steals. Whereas the last few years, Gobert has been let down by his perimeter defenders, Utah could’ve made perimeter D a strength with one addition. Plus, moving forward, Mitchell, Oubre and Gobert fit pretty well together, especially with Oubre’s increase in 3pt volume…
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My bad, idk how I got on about Oubre…anyways, enjoy your day!!
Wasn't it like 1 week before the pandemic happenned? 😔
@@Bguiballer76 Feb 9th or 10th. Been watching GS on League pass ever since. Sad, as a Minnesota fan since inception. Wolves are tough now too, but I would preferred Wiggins and the #7 pick with Kat, Ant, and any good passing defensive guard.
Dlo isnt overpaid. He’s vital to the wolves he’s just not playing a pure scoring role.
People were questioning why Golden State would take a chance on Andrew Wiggins in the hopes that he could impact the team. Fast forward 2 years: he’s an All-Star Starter, and he’s been one of the main reasons for their success outside the trio of Steph, Klay, and Dray, as well as key depth pieces such as Poole, GP2, Looney, Kuminga, Moody, Porter, and Iguodala. In short, the Warriors took a gamble on Andrew Wiggins because they wanted to win, and guess what… it worked
this aged well
Let’s just take a moment to recognize that even though everyone will say Andrew Wiggins is only good because he was on the warriors, the same thing did not happen for dlo who was clearly a class below maple Jordan.
I think it’s a win-win trade for both teams with both guys providing exactly what both teams needed even if neither guys truly should be all-stars this year
Ageeed. Wiggins would not have become this in MN. The fans were not with him!
This aged soo well!!
D’angelo runs the offence and defence of the Timberwolves, he is extremely valuable to them. It is clear you don’t watch the games as Russel could be considered as an all-star just off of sheer impact to the team, but because they are a small market, it doesn’t go under notice. Before making foolish claims such as that he’s “just there to keep Towns happy”, have a little fact check, and check how well the Wolves do with vs without Dlo. One of the most underrated as of current, which is especially difficult to understand if you’re a NBA casual, such as yourself.
Hes an all star. The Team will obviously do better with him lol. Dude can light it up from deep and an underrated playmaker. But hes also injury prone to the max
@@dreyeezy8671 Definitely agree with you on this one.
Yeah Wiggins proved he was worth more
U say that but where he at and where he been? He hasn’t been in the play offs where he at??
Jordan McLaughlin subbed in for him
Wolves fan, I'm glad we did it.
DLO is a better player and suits our team perfectly.
Happy
You'll cry about it 5 years from now when kumingas a star😂
Dlo is not better. 😭💀
@@yrh3702 I don’t think wolves would of drafter kuminga
Wiggins was the Warrior’s second best player in the finals.
I knew Andrew had it in him. I felt he got shafted by Lebron and the Cavs. I'm so glad for him. I'm also happy for KAT. I hope DLO can stay healthy so he, Ant-man, and DLO can build into something. KAT deserves. It was so good to see him smiling so much at the all-star weekend after the tragedy, sadness, and sickness of the last two years.
4 months later. Wiggins is an NBA Champ.
The most important takeaway from this deal: both teams won. If the only thing the wolves ever got in this trade was that KAT was happy and would stay in Minnesota, then the trade was the bargain of the century for the wolves.
And Wiggins is a fringe all star anyways, fan voting is a joke
Could not have said it better myself. Both teams got productive impact players that suited them. Even resurrected careers, good for them.
Yeah, Steph barely edged Wiggins out for WCF MVP and NBA Finals MVP. On the other hand, Jordan McLaughlin's backup played a little bit in the 4th quarter of the elimination game for the Wolves.
@@jon4good929 Minnesota got exactly what they wanted too. Whatever you think about Dlo, the bottom line is that KAT signed a massive contract extension with the team, keeping him in Minny for the foreseeable future. if that's all they ever received in return, they do that trade 100 times out of 100.
I remember the hate of Wiggins a year ago, always wanting to trade the player away. The ridiculous trade about Warriors trading away their youth for a win year mentality. I never like any trade scenarios because it required other team to fleece us. I say stay the course at Player development, and develop the player right now, at the next player up mentality.
I think the timberwolves also won, the need for dlo lead to a trade for Malik Beasley and Jared Vanderbilt both have been amazing on the t-wolves
Wiggins has been a big contributor for this Warriors squad congratulations for winning the championship
Honestly they’ve *both* been pretty great this season, DLo’s efficiency still hasn’t been “great” but his all around game is the best I’ve ever seen from him.
And obviously Wiggins is great too I just wanted to give Russell his flowers.
I watched a recent thinking basketball video. Russell is trying to be a floor general on defense and his playmaking game has risen
Thank god someone here knows basketball
This trade was perfect as it helped the warriors win a ring
So true..Marshall Mathers
The Wiggins trade is looking even better in the finals
That said, he just never worked out in Minn.
it is, however amazing… that this all started out based on KD who was going to leave regardless
I still say it was an even trade all things considering. Wiggino wasn't going to be a number 1 or 2 and Minnesota needed a lead guard
@@wwefanman1000
Obvious,y Minnesota thought it was an even trade. What made the trade uneven was what the warriors did with Wiggins after the trade
@@MrArdytube well it's not like he became a star player. he just had his role reduced to a role player. I believe anyone that goes from star player to role player playing with Steph klay and dray will be doing better. he doesn't have the responsibility that he had as the number one/two.
@@wwefanman1000
Right…. So why did this not happen at Minnesota, or some other team. Sometimes things seem more obvious in retrospect. And, btw, wig was never seen as a elite defender…. Or for that matter an elite rebounder…. Or for that matter a setter of picks and passer… or for that matter a three point shooter. Those are not skills that players are born with. They need focus, training, and a team that says you need to focus on these skills rather than focus on being a dominant mid range offensive player … we got that covered
If I'm not mistaken, KD agreed to let the Warriors sign and trade him to the Nets instead of just leaving as a free agent. This way, the Warriors could get a quality player and not be empty handed. So KD was nice enough to let the Warriors get Andrew Wiggins and Kuminga for him.
That first-round pick turned out to be Jonathan Kuminga
wiggins has put on a whole lotta muscle since he been with the warriors
Wow... 4 months later, and look where we are. TWolves make the playoffs as the 7th seed, KAT is happy, and the Warriors in the Finals again while setup nicely for the future. Definitely a win-win trade for both teams.
Looking back, you did a great job breaking down the brilliance of Warriors GM, Bob Meyers. He took a FA player in Durant, who wasn't going to resign with the Warriors and turned that into a future top 10 draft pick. That's all the Warriors were looking to accomplish. As for Wiggins, I'm sure the Warriors thought the could carry him for a few years and then trade him for another draft pick, ultimately giving them 2 picks for Durant. But leave it to the Warriors coaching staff and veterans to realize what they had in Wiggins and truly steal the trade. They got the draft capital to win in the future (JK), and the player they needed to win now in Wiggins. Warriors are not going to the Finals without Wiggins helping get them there.
There isn't a world where you can say the Wolves straight up lost the deal if you are actually diving into things. Wiggins wasn't good with Minnesota, but D'Lo is. In fact, D'Lo has the highest win% of any Wolves player this year. He has also been the MLB of their defense and you can see how the team had fallen apart when D'Lo didn't play. You could also see how the offense started to struggle with him out, there wasn't anybody that could create shots for others on the court (very reminiscent of when Wiggins was their guy) and that is something that the Wolves need with KAT as their #1 guy. The Wolves couldn't keep Wiggins and D'Lo easily the best they were going to get in return (especially considering they had a superstar that they didn't want to leave in free agency.
Also, I know this was technically a separate trade and actually happened earlier, but the Wolves did also end up with Juancho (who was used to get Patrick Beverly, the perfect guy to go alongside Russell), Malik Beasley, and DPOY candidate Jarred Vanderbilt. Had this D'Lo for Wiggins talk never started, none of those guys would be on that team. A much better trade in the grand scheme of things for the Timberwolves that it may look like at face value (though it doesn't look like a bad trade at face value either).
It sucks that the Timberwolves lost the #7 pick in the trade which I think automatically means the warriors win the trade, but DLo has been extremely valuable to the wolves and obviously so has Wiggins for the warriors. Wiggins was never like this on the wolves but he’s in a new role and culture where he is thriving, DLo has been the wolves defensive leader which is weird to say but despite his inconsistency shooting he brings a skill set Wiggins never was capable of providing. I’m happy Wiggins is doing well and I think the trade was a win-win for both sides
Indeed. And the Kuminga pick means the Warriors came out ahead, but that doesn't mean the Wolves lost the trade. If both team got what they wanted and needed, it is a true win-win situation...
@@hilmilosnowball7740 I think it was pure bad luck for the Wolves/good luck for the Warriors with the pick. If the Wolves had league average health last year, we are talking about a 12-16 range pick, most likely.
@@2005OEFArmy lottery picks are impossible to predict. That is why the Warriors did indeed come out ahead, but like I said, that doesnt mean the Wolves lost that trade.
@@hilmilosnowball7740 I am not talking about Kuminga being a good prospect, I am talking about the fact that the Wolves were not expecting to convey that pick this year and it was only conveyed due to really(and I mean historically) bad luck. if the Wovles were "relatively" healthy last season, we are talking about a .500 team. Instead, they had more games missed by starters last year than any other team in the league.
@@2005OEFArmy the Warriors had 0 games with all starters last season.
The odds for the the 7th pick are not about luck though.
Minnesota did not lose this deal, D Lo is exactly what this team needs, a shooter and a passer that’ll dime it to KAT and ANT, decent defender now too
It's a win-win deal. DLo's improvement in defense are one of the biggest improvements for the wolves. His role as their defensive communicator is huge. This just shows how underrated his development had been.
And the fact that DLo is Towns' bestfriend is just a bonus.
4 months later, Wiggins was already a champion and the second best player to his team
D’lo being slept on still to this day his impact on the timberwolves is clear as day the defense is lost without him especially when it comes to running actual plays on offense
Deserved to be an All Star more than "forward" Andrew Wiggins.
Wiggs & GSW is now playing in the Finals 2022.. Its acknowledge that He marked Luka in their WCF Series.. his timely Scoring, Rebound & Hustle plays clinched GS their 6th Championship appearance.. Well worth the $$$ IMO..
he made tatum his bitch.
Been your videos and I haven't subscribed yet i must admit but you got a sub here brotha
These videos have been great lately
Every twolves fan knew that once wiggins got to a team with other elite perimeter creation threats (better than old Jeff Teague and Ricky rubio) and in a better coaching situation (Saunders had no idea what to do and Thibs had a great scheme but was terrible at teaching it to new players, which is why he has taj gibson and derrick rose and all his teams), wiggins was going be a far more efficient offensive player.
In essence wiggins just has to be a 3 and D player and make cuts on 95 percent of the time he's on the floor in Golden State. In Minnesota they asked him to be the offensive engine, which lead to him leaning on iso scoring for a meh offensive efficiency for the whole team. He can't do more than make the obvious pass.
If you watch Wiggins this year, his 3 and D is All 3 levels and D. Like Klay said post game, dude is approaching All Pro level.
So explain his 2 month long down turn then? Same fucking Wiggins.
@@blackspine343 Klay Thompson came back. He has been the 3rd option since Klay came back. Klay is actually shooting worse than Wiggins since he came back while taking more shots. Wiggins has still been solid on D.
Wiggins hidden talent is durability. I think he only missed 23 games in 8 years. And given the times, especially in GS where absences have been the theme, that's a precious quality to have. 19 assured points, night in night out, are nothing to laugh at.
That’s how Klay Thompson was until he tore his ACL twice
@@oztauge5471 And Klay Thompson was a durable player.
The Wolves needed to make this trade otherwise KAT would’ve demanded a trade. DLo has been such an important part to this team and Wiggins is revitalizing his career so I’d say it’s a Win-Win
Well, this analysis turned out to be spot on.
the amount of “for years to come” in this video is immaculate.
Ask Jason Tatum what he thinks about Wiggins.
if Dlo makes it to the finals next year.
the whole narrative will change
look how everybody is on Wiggs jock
any real baller knows he’s been the truth but u need the right people to bring it out of him.
This is your lane! great video.
Congratulations Andrew Wiggins. Players like Andrew Wiggins need veteran players around him who know how to win. Good deal for Golden State to have him develop his game.
Kudos to Wiggins for working his butt and adapt, It is not at allstar, but deserves some credit
People don't like looking at things in context.
1) D'Lo has had the best season of his career as far as intangible stuff for winning games goes, and that's shooting a career low percentage.
2) Wiggins is an all-star starter simply by association with one of the best teams of the last decade and playing next to the best floor spacer in the league history and a perrenial MVP candidate.
3) Believe it or not, Wiggins was always a decent-good man defender, even when he played for the Wovles
4) Kuminga will be better than Wiggins in about 1-2 years because he has a much better motor(something Wiggins always lacked and still does to this day).
I am sorry guys, but as a Wolves fan, I don't see any difference from Wiggins on the Warriors and I was a pretty big backer of him on the Wolves. Generally speaking, I vastly disagree when a bunch of average players(yes, Wiggins by all means is an average league starter getting paid superstar money) make the ASG just because they come from the top team. It's basically an unwritten rule that the top 2-3 teams in each conference deserve to have 2-3 Allstars per team, regardless of their actual efficiency and performance.
The bottom line is, it was a no brainer for GS as D'lo was a bad fit and absolutely redundant. As far as the Wolves go, D'lo is about as good of a fit as you can get from a skill/personality/leadership standpoint. Like other people said, it's a win-win, even if it is a bigger win for the Dubs. I think luck was a huge component because the Wolves didn't have even "average" league health last year(we can clearly see they are better than their record last year when healthy) so they didn't expect to lose a high draft pick.
P.S. Sorry for a freaking paragraph. Love and appreciation to whoever bothered to read it.
As far as I’m concerned this situation proves furthermore how important the system is for the single player’s performances.
Warriors simplified he’s game, play defence, hit open 3s, get to the rim for dunks and layups, cut out the midrange and minimal ball handling and playmaking.
couldnt be more accurate!!! congrats GSW!!!
There might be players more deserving, but I can't be mad at Wiggins. He's worked hard to turn his game around, and this could be a great confidence booster, which in turn could make him better in theory. Good to see for a guy whose career looked almost over at one point.
It's literally the same game... but he doesn't have the ball in his hands, and gets a lot more open shots due to Curry. Dude doesn't expend ANYWHERE as much energy, which allows him to be better at the end of games, and guard more efficiently throughout.
Now one locked down Tatum in the finals and won a ring the other rode the bench in the playoffs 😂
This aged so well.
Dude the Wiggins trade has aged beautifully. Wiggins was such a good pick up.
Great Move For Both Teams 👍💯
Just looking at thumbnail, both are overpaid. Wiggins really shouldn’t be an all star over draymond but that’s just how fans voted. D-Lo is still good his skill set is just way different and he’s in the west which is full of incredible guards
I think it woulda been Dray but he’s been hurt g so they put in wiggins over him as a warriors fan he’s a good player but I was genuinely shocked he was an al star 😂
Chill, kid.
Draymond will still make the all star game.
@@BaithNa lol nigga 1 don’t call me Kid 2 he’s played 3 games in the last month no he won’t
Wiggins overpaid? Nah 2 way player 19ppg 49% 41%
@@Holahola-py5kw my guy he averages less than 20, is the 3rd option, plays serviceable defense, and is making more than Zach Lavine, demar derozan, jaylen brown and Jaysen Tatum, Donovan Mitchell, and bam adebayo. You cannot convince me he deserves more money than those players
This video hasn't aged well...now with Draymond Green being out, Wiggins is proving why Wolves gave up on him. Warriors have won 2 games out of the last 10. When pressure is on him to lead the team, he stays away from it. He can't handle the pressure. He is not worthy of an all star position. He is a great 3rd or 4th option but not a 2nd option player. Dlo has been the main reason why the Wolves offense has been #1 since January. He is becoming a great leader on the offensive side and defensive side.
This really changed in the playoffs. Russell looked lost in the wolves’ loss and rumors are flying that they are trying to get rid of him. Wiggins is playing a key defensive role for the warriors and is having occasional big offensive games 👌
@@Vm50505 Dlo did helped the wolves win the play in game since Kat was a no show. He had 29 points on 10-18 shooting. However, Memphis game plan worked on Dlo by sticking a bigger player on him....his struggle in the playoff doesn't mean his impact throughout the season hasn't been beneficial. Stats does show wolves struggled without Dlo throughout the season. With Wiggins, you are paying max money for a 3 and D guy essentially. He doesn't bring any leadership to help the team win. He fits well with GSW bc of Curry, Poole, and Thompson taking the pressure off of him. Wiggins struggled in stretches bc he lacks motivation and shy away when he has to start carrying the team. That is just my thought.
Ok
And now he's a champion.
Yeah bro you are so smart twolves lost the trade and dlo is overpaid just a reminder dlo is averaging more ppg than Wiggins and dlo is a playmaker this season and Wiggins is a scorer what a loss for the timberwolves
Can you do an update on this,Wiggins now won a championship and his game 5 explosion… please
Warriors are Champs
Cant imagine nex year🔥
Thank goodness for Kevin Durant making all of this possible
@@Therealesir your right, we upped our number and now have 4 championships in 8 years, thank you very much and i hoped you weren't a clown that meant it the other way
This is Kuminga's 1st season then boom 1ring
10:00 "So what if he's one of the reasons Warriors make the finals this year?"
Good call there, lmao. He definitely was and contributed greatly to their successful last season. 👍👏🔥🔥
this one aged well too lmao
Wiggins trade is looking even better for gsw. he was their legit 2nd best player on the way to the championship
I think the trade went well for both teams. Wiggins is a little overvalued in Golden State. Little worried as a wolves fan that Kamingua could be great. But glad we've gotten Edwards and have come to enjoy D'Lo this season.
You would have drafted LaMelo Ball instead of Ant to play PG if Wiggins was still a T-wolves.
Wiggins is still expensive though. he costs 31.5m now, 33m next year. his salary alone is around double the salary of all other gsw players except the core 3 curry klay & green.
A lot of people forgot that gsw tried to put wiggins in the driver seat, but he couldnt cut it, that is why wiggins is just a role player now.
This video is even more relevant after Wiggins' playoffs. Things turned out amazingly well for the GSW.
Just admit that you haven’t watched any Wolves games this year. I would do the Wiggs-Dlo trade again without a doubt, Dlo has probably been our most impactful player. Let’s be honest even though I’m happy for him, Wiggs being an all star starter is a bit of a joke. He’s putting up the same stats as he was in MN and is the 4th best player on his team, it’s just cause he’s in GS and had loads of random votes from k-pop fans. There are a lot of other players who deserved that spot, Towns for one.
Towns got dunked by wiggs. Wiggs did not (as of now). Maybe you have a point being wiggs not deserving all star starter but you are wrong with saying wiggs is putting the same stats when he was in MN. Let alone his shooting % which is in its highest right now compared to all his previous season. He is ovbiously happy and working harder than before so c’mon just be happy for the guy
I'm a wolves fan and Im happy with the trade because Wiggins just had no motivation in MN. idk how golden state got him to play defense and be able to shoot 40% from 3.
Wiggins earned every penny. He changed everything for the Warriors. His defense and his offense were crucial to this title.
Wiggins was never brought in to become a trade piece. Warriors management knew exactly what they were getting with Andrew.
DLo has been a great addition. Couldn't be more happy as a wolves fan
Wiggins is so good on the Warriors, that even if the rumor is true, that the Sixers will trade Ben for Andrew, the Warriors simply aren't interested. That's how valuable Andrew is for the GSW.
Now we probably think the 1st round pick should go the other way. But really at the time Wiggins had terrible reputation and T-Wolves organization just wanted bring KAT his buddy to keep him happy.
5:35 it’s always overlooked, but another reason for Wigs’ value to the GSW is his combo of age and athleticism. With Curry over 33, and Dray+Klay pushing 32 and the latter coming off two big injuries, having a 6’7/200lb, 2-way, premier athlete at the wing is immensely valuable. A guy they don’t have to worry about rest days or whether or not his minutes should be adjusted after a back-to-back, etc. Aside from KD, the Warriors have had a pretty big hole at the SF position, and, when your tallest guy after the 6’9 Looney(at the time) is only 6’6, a guy with a little size is really helpful. 18/5 on 40%+ from 3 is a huge bonus.
With Steph at 6’3, and Dray+Klay at 6’6, a couple 6’7-6’8 dudes in their early-to-mid 20’s goes a LONG WAY. Those fast long dudes can run around all night and do anything from chasing rebounds to off ball cuts to easy dunks/layups at the rim(Wigs has a career high 74% at the rim this year).
Otto Porter was a great pickup too, but I’d prefer to move Wiseman for a Saddiq Bey type. Basically a younger Robert Covington would be great for them. Kuminga looks like he can replace some of Draymond’s defense as the years progress, and be at least a 16/7/2-a-night kind of player. Moody has been 27/6/2 while shooting 47%-37%-90% in 32mpg for Santa Cruz, and could see a promotion next season as GSW’s FA’s are Damion Lee, Gary Payton II(RFA), Kevon Looney, Otto Porter, Nemanja Bjelicia, Iggy, and Toscano-Anderson.
Warriors do have the bird rights for Lee, Looney, and JTA, while GP2 and Bjelicia very likely to return on 1yr deals at 105% of their current deals.
Otto Porter Jr. is the only one I’m worried about, as he literally is there in order to rebuild his value, but I could see him taking a discount and a raise from his current veteran minimum 1-year-contract. With the 2022-23 MLE expected to be around $6m, it wouldn’t be a shocker if he took the near 600% pay increase and stayed in the Bay for another year. When Wigs contract is up after next season, it’s likely he returns to GSW as well(they have his Bird rights-can go over the cap to re-sign him) but at a likely discount from his last deal. He’s made $30m+ each season with GSW, but that’s only about a $8m-$12m overpay. However, due to his career revival and having all the money he could dream of from that last contract, I’m sure GSW would LOVE Wigs on a 3yr/$45m or 4yr/$60, but it’s likely he signs for somewhere around $18m-$22m. He’s better than Kelly Oubre, Gordon Hayward, and Tim Hardaway Jr., all of whom are wings in the $17m-$30m range.
GSW sorely missed a player like Wigs in the 2019 Finals, a guy who can practically walk to the basket was needed, and while he’s not Klay, he’s an above average outside shooter, something Livingston, Iggy, Jerebko, and McKinnie cannot say. He’s also an above average inside scorer and has the ability to go iso if needed, and that was a series that needed a bit of iso from anyone but Steph, who has long been GS’s best inside scorer(aside from KD of course). But it’s obviously problematic when your best inside scorer is 6’3. Honestly GSW likely wins those KD titles if they got Paul Millsap and Al Horford instead of KD that summer. They really just needed an upgrade over Barnes, as he showed he didn’t have the size nor strength to come close to scoring on or defending LeBron, and while it’s not like Millsap or Horford are Bron-stoppers, they had the size to force a few easy baskets that the warriors have lacked. Their main priority was to get a guy that can make those easy layups and dunks inside, whereas with a bunch of 6’6 guys, that can be problematic no matter how good the opposition’s bigs are. It’s the fact that they’re bigger. Millsap and Horford would’ve been a lot more helpful to have with Iggy, Draymond, and Steph once Klay, Boogie, and KD were out. Heck even if they went with Nic Batum and one of Millsap/Horford, they would’ve done just as well as they did with KD. 2016 Horford and Millsap were still solid NBA starting caliber players, and having them then would’ve been huge for the splash bros and Dray, as they’d have the best versions of the David West/Zaza Pachulia types they thrive with.
Bjelicia has been so great for them because he upgrades the range of the jumper David West had and he’s as good if not a better passer than West and Zaza. However, his 6’10/245lb frame gives them another guy that can get an easy layup or easy rebound that guys like JTA, Dray, and Paschall just can’t get to. They kept bringing back Bogut for a reason, and that was his size and his passing out of the post. Bjelicia isn’t 7ft/265, but he does shoot 40% from 3, and is a great passer. It’s likely he plays out his career in Golden State.
This video aged well I'd say😆😆😆
Warriors got a player who plays well in their system and a pick with so much potential. A clear win. Wolves got to keep KAT happy and even if DLo plays below his all-star level, still having KAT around and actually keeping the Wolves afloat is also a clear win. The other team may have won the much bigger prize but there are no losers here. As the content suggest, even Brooklyn won big here.
Kuminga is going to be mediocre though.
I'm from the playoffs, and wiggins is nutty
Love your content but you underrate Russell. He’s been more impactful this year and is one of the best passers and playmakers in the league and has been for years. And he’s not even THAT inefficient
An All Star and a champion
And wiggs now is the 2nd scorer in finals series of GSW vs BC and a champion.. he deserve all star starter spot
Wiggins is the same player with the Warriors that he was with the Wolves. The only difference is with the Wolves he was expected to be a top two player when in reality he’s a number 3 or 4 on a good team which is exactly what he is with the Warriors. The reason he’s a starter on the All Star team is because he was pushed by the Asian guy as well as being on a good team with more exposure and a better record.
You did D-Lo wrong with that thumbnail
Please make a video on playoffs prediction
Somehow it’s both a Win-Win and an absolute steal where the Wolves got Fleeced by Golden State bro Wiggins AND Kuminga for D-lo???? Fucking done deal 10 times out of 10
The only thing warriors won is Kuminga, Wiggins is degressing fast.
Never underestimate a hard working talented young player with a huge chip on his shoulder.
Now they’re in the Finals. Arguably the best trade ever made
Timberwolves let GSW draft Steph, they even sent Wiggs plus picks to help them win the chip. Maybe the wolves are a sub team of the Warriors.
This has become a deal where no team lost it’s a win win deal!
GS got a high upside prospect Kuminga and they turned Wiggins into a good player that helps win games (if he was on any other team he wouldn’t be an all star just saying)
Wolves for the first time in forever have a PG who can initiate the offense and open the floor for KAT and ANT and has become a solid defender Dlo has the highest Net Rtg on the team and when he doesn’t play wolves are 2-9 or something like that when I looked last so
Also Dlo isn’t overpaid he makes 1 mil less than Wiggins and averages more PPG, APG, RPG
True but Wiggins is way more efficient d-lo is a volume score if gon use stats use all of them
Wiggins way more efficient scorer,much better defender,higher impact on winning on winning,better shooter,an they average around same points Wiggins just more efficient an Russell doesn’t average more rebounds than Wiggins.Warriors finessed the Wolves!
@@mikepee8824 Wiggins is NOT A MUCH BETTER DEFENDER. I can tell you haven’t watched Wolves games because Dlo is playing All-NBA 1st team defense in the point guard position. Also, Wiggins would grab more rebounds because the Warriors don’t have any bigs meanwhile the Wolves have more bigs.
With Russell, the Wolves are on pace to win 55 games. When he’s out, they are on pace to win 18 games. Wiggins when he is IN is actually having A WORSE RECORD than when he is out. What do you mean “higher impact on winning”?
Dlo is also a much better playmaker than Wiggins btw.
You only said Wiggins impact winning because you just look at the Warriors record while being ignorant.
@@mikepee8824 Dlo impacts winning way more than Wiggins it’s not even debatable! GS didn’t finesse anyone
@@Joker-hc6mq no one really cares about efficiency tbh but also I was already gonna write a whole paper so
And now here we are today with Andrew Wiggins an NBA CHAMPION!!! 🏆
My My My Probably the best video ever lol
And now Wiggs has a well earned championship Ring..
I thought it was crazy when reports at the start of the season were saying time to trade Russell. I mean he and KAT were barely on the court at the same time, and it seemed like it would definitely work.