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- As part of an international team, Dr Tony Freeth has been a central figure in an extraordinary voyage of discovery: every new revelation has reinforced a sense of shock about this highly sophisticated ancient Greek astronomical calculating machine. It is one of the true wonders of the ancient world.
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Whenever I fall asleep listening to videos on KRplus, I always wake up to this lecture.
why do we believe we know it all, im afraid i do the same with the pyramids so dont rule out the genious of man?
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Dr. Freeth, I've followed this since 62, when I arrived stateside, having been overseas, "navy brat", was apprized of it then, in Greece, saw an article regarding it mid sixties, and have heard here and there, hints. I'm a mechanic of sixty odd years, and would say it was a good quality working man's tools, as I've made myself, along my way to master machinist. I was five seeing it first, and was truly shocked when I ran across this, not having heard anything for a long time. I think you've done a masterful job, I was amazed decades ago, and again, in my teens, but I've always put it in context with "Hero's steam toy". I've seen a couple other examples of fine detailed machine work, from that time, but as you state, bronze worn out or broken, was recycled. I've made dozens of "engines" for engraving dials, or wheel faces, laying out by degrees, and even mils, for artillery purposes. Thank you for a great presentation, and great work in teasing out all the details, so intricate and and brilliantly discovered.
What do you know about the Greek god Janus
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24:20 Metonic cycle
34:50 Metonic calendar dial
42:30 more fragments found
45:10 examining text within Antikythera Mechanism
1:09:00 Gearing for Lunar Anomaly
1:13:50 Where was it made?
1:26:00 When was it made?
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Parts of the video suggest the Antikythera was a work in progress. The device found was an evolved version of fewer, earlier designs as yet unknown. The basis for this was that it was not created overnite by Archimedes (or someone like him) alone but may have been, like Sir Isaac Newton once said, I did this by standing on the shoulders of giants. It may have been the sum of centuries of contribution. It would make the written timeline mesh with this magnificent monolith staring back at us.
These discoveries, super exceeds ancient theories, e.g. atlantis , amazing archaeological structures found are evidences supporting authenticy
thanks man!
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An outstanding presentation by Dr Tony Freeth.
Imagine coming across a poster advertising the coming lecture at Stanford University....
Very few apart from some very deep Science students would give it more than a passing glance.
Yet I wandered across it quite by accident - a casual browsing not even supported by a KRplus Algorithm - and I stayed for 1 hour and 48+ minutes.
So I can imagine that if an eminent scientist and a relative philistine like myself were to be seated together at this lecture we would rise together in enthusiastic applause at the end of it.
I am going to have to think about that a bit.
"You don't just make progress in science by getting everything right. You make progress also by getting things wrong in an interesting way."
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I watch these at 1.5 to 2.0 speeds so it just seems like a documentary! 😃
An extraordinarily well-constructed lecture about a complex device that describes the very complex motion of the moon and visible planets in the sky.
Just enough explanation of how gears work for those of us who are not engineers, just enough explanation of the orbits of the moon and planets for those of who are still learning astronomy, and just enough about the history of astronomy to know what was known when in antiquity.
Extremely well done. Both very educational and very entertaining.
Don't forget to mention Sun and it's Orbit AROUND the Earth.
Beautiful comment, just enough … well said sir.
who needs that machine thing. all we need to know is that the sun is over there an then its over there. same for the moon
What gets me is that we'd know nothing about the Antikythera Mechanism had the ship carrying it not sunk [or had some sponge-divers not decided to try their luck in that location].
The Mechanism is insanely complex - conceived, planned and executed by some true genius. And it all had to be precision-made by hand, hand cut teeth, hand-cut spindles and hands.
My mind is thoroughly boggled.
I would not be inclined to assume that the teeth were hand cut if only because, given the apparent level of skill and ability of that time, surely it is very possible that a machine method of cutting teeth may have already been produced with no extra or additional skills to those demonstrated already by the Antikythera machine.
Just my initial thought.
I think Dr Tony Freeth presented and explained the whole subject incredibly well.
@@philiprock131 - machine-cut teeth raises the tech level by another mile or so! they'd need to design the machine to cut the teeth - and each cog would have needed its own template for the different numbers of teeth. probably the same machine could do it, but parts would need to be changed for each new cog, with the machine reset each time ...
So, what was Archimedes Principal? !! Get this finished in time to start the Olympics before the Due date of arrival 😁
They were far more advanced, after armageddon the "elites" withheld all knowledge. Tartarian mudfloods and liquefaction event, sun plasma discharges, the phonecians ie Irish (druids) and moors then held power.
That mechanism is a basic piece of their machinery. They use frequency technologies and ether energy.
@@sovereign7312 - your sources?
I stumbled upon this completely by accident. I've been interested in this device for decades since first hearing of it, collecting many documentaries. This is, by far, the most scholarly video I've seen on this subject. With many times feeling like I was riding down a steep hill in an out-of-control stagecoach trying to hold onto my hat, trying to keep up with each explanation. Simply outstanding presentation. Completely dazzling to hear how this mechanism came into being.
Not wanting to sound condescending, but I think I'm most impressed, besides the obvious, to see almost 4mil views. Normally, I guess I would have expected only hundreds of views about something this academically oriented. This gives me hope on many levels. Some brilliant comments.Thank You.
I love your "out-of-control stagecoach holding on to your hat" analogy. Made me laugh out loud with the visual it triggered in my head. 😂👌🤠
@@lievenyperman9363 Yippee Kyay!! Most gracious thanks.
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@@c.e.anderson558 TY. Now even more hopeful.
Considering the Greek god Janus - 2 heads looking forward and backwards into time simultaneously- I feel this can be connected to j f k - I now want to find the moon phases on his death and also an 80s rock sat believe it or not named jani lane - born John Kennedy Oswald - he died 8-11-11 in room 118 of a comfort in that is now been changed to be called the 818 ascend hotel - here’s the kicker jani means yani or John - there is a Janus island on each pole of the earth and he sang as fluently backwards as he did forward - see JANI LANE NEVAEH (heaven reversed) there is a huge connection to the Greek god Janus and the jabberwocky- in Louis Carroll’s novel through the looking glass - if you think thieves rediculous - ok, but is there anyone that has more insight? Some believe many celebs n stuff are reincarnated from the Egyptians but I’m seeing a much greater Greek connection - any input? Just throwing it out there -
This is absolutely fascinating and I cannot express my gratitude to the fullest by just saying "Thank you for sharing such interesting information."
My appreciation for such findings were kindled when I attended Melbourne University, and was welcome into their History and Philosophy of Science department briefly, under the tutelage of Monica, whose inspiration led me to appreciate antiquity ...
Life is much too short to fully appreciate our ancestors and their achievements.
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When this object first came to my attention in the 6o's there was a lot of guessing and theories, I'm so happy to have lived long enough to hear some definitive statements regarding it. Astounding work by all concerned and a marvel that shows so very clearly the glory that was ancient Greece.
Imagine how it feels for us, Greeks. It's so damn overwhelming knowing we can never surpass our forefathers. But it's an honor knowing what we set in stone about how the world should be, exists through USA currently etc.
@@hermespsychopompos8267 Y'all that stupid you can't ever surpass your ancestors nor be equals lmao?? That's sad...
@@DrixMaloneDFS let us not be rude please.
Isnt it sad that one man can control the global CITIZENS, of all nations??
What's worse is that WEF started in 70s to dumb global CITIZENS, to a point that they want to make a country, that's paid for more people globally, which they are porpusly making that country as 3rd world....
Why the hail would anyone keep true history locked up, and create a narrative as to sell to the CITIZENS??
It's sad how much more could be found and theorized about!! Speaking of theory..why would 1% of world population insist on teaching race theory, and other critical theories making people dumber...instead of allowing more intelligence to learn past tools to use today???
Critical thinking went on vacation and left uncle theory in charge of chaos!!
Sorry. It is NYLE PHOENIXIAN / Khametic, NOT Greek.
Greeks were TECHTARDS.
One of the best videos on the internet. Thank you so much for your painstaking research.
Wow! As a child in the late sixties/early seventies I avidly consumed every book I could find on underwater archaeology. The account of the finding of the Antikythera wreck with all it's treasures and it's lumps of corroded and encrusted brass cogs was spellbinding. It seems that the brass cogs are the greatest treasure. To listen to this smart man, Dr Tony Freeth, explain what he and others have learnt is a real pleasure.
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Just Incredible to think all these people put this device back together after over 2000 years under water. Amazing work !
It also makes we wonder, how long ago did they calculate all these celestial movements before they started to build this device. And, how many failed devices before the final one. I wonder what else we haven't found.
@@weareallanimals I think the remaning techs and knowledges are in the underwater
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ I've been fascinated by the Antikythera Mechanism for a long time, but coming across this BRILLIANT lecture was really a jaw dropping epiphany!
I remember having read about this mechanism many years ago. I thought at the time that it is an orrery.
@@aloyisiuspeters8913 Me too, what a wonderful bit of reverse engineering. I can’t wait to hear more about the manufacturing / gear cutting machining.
@@lawrencepevec517 19 minutes into this documentary you will perhaps find a clue, that the manufacturing was done very simply by the use of Hellenistic Geometry and a swift and steady hand with a file. krplus.net/bidio/mreJgHWClIizmno
Stanford is really spoiling me with these lectures. Loving saposkys series on human behavioural biology
This mechanism has the ability to show any thinking person that doesn't already know the Earth is flat , that indeed it is flat .and motionless. And the Sun and the Moon are equal in size and approximate distance from the surface of our flat textured plane that we live on
As a gunsmith and machinist I’m amazed by the precision fabrication skills and tools clearly required to create this machine. I suggest an astronomer collaborating with a jeweler of sorts made this as a team. Indeed, I’d further suggest that a metallurgist and a chemist may have been on the team as well, since it appears that the machine’s alloys may be unique, and that some pretty fancy lubricants were needed to ensure smooth functioning.
Indeed it certainly seems to have had some interesting lubrication technics. Probably a few patients hiding in there!
There’s a KRplus channel all about the process of making the replica using legit time period tools and techniques, but nobody wanted to stump up the money for all that, they’d rather drop billions of dollars of bombs on goat farmers
Honest question: Since you have these skills, why would not someone have them over 2000 years ago?
@@asage5801 Logical answer would be it is the "Bronze Age" so "steel" files did not exist yet. Cutting the gear teeth would have been extremely difficult (EVEN "WITH" A STEEL FILE) all done by hand.
I propose that even TODAY, it would have been difficult to conceive such a device.
@@bunzeebear2973 we know that the Greeks took many secrets from the Egyptian priests. Clearly the Egyptians knew how to cut “hard” things and kept that a secret. We also know that Greeks studied with the Egyptians.
I’m thinking that they used a reverse pantograph to make the precision cuts with a vey hard gem or stone at the working edge. They also may have heated the metal a little in order to soften it slightly.
Wish to know:
Metallurgy - what alloy composition did they use?
Crystallography - what did we know about their forging, and hardening methods based the crystal lattice of the gear alloys?
Isotope & spectral - Where were the metals mined ?
From Africa, Egypt, Cyprus?
How old was it?
Sorry if I missed these in the lecture, I'm very distractible.
Love listening to things like this as I fall asleep, I wake up and have so much to look up!
Incredible reconstruction, it just goes to show how intelligent ancient civilizations were. Let's not forget to thank all the people involved in this project, they're all geniuses.
Well we can discuss for hours about the reasons that today's Greek scientists are not very competent. Instead, I will use the following explanation; Cycle of civilisation.
@@bozo5632 well,compared to each's time i think
Everyone who wants to be a demigod should have one of these.
Not only did it predict sun and moon eclipses. It also predicts the Milankovitch cycles.
Eccentricity
223,000/111,000 years galactic orbit.
Precession/Great Year
25,900/12,460
OBLIQUITY
4 quadrants of galaxies electromagnetic magnetic north in keeping with the galaxies electromagnetic Toroidal fields.
@Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. well, in the medical science we have invented antibiotics and the cure of many diseases. We can operate someone without opening the body... and a lot more. Bare in mind, that the Greeks did not invent that mechanism, they must have got it from Egypt from the antidelivian world. The previous human race was smarter, stronger and more. beautiful than ours, what can we do?
@@margasa7 There is not the slightest bit of evidence thay Egypt is involved in this mechanism. It is doubtless that the greeks invented the mechanism, and a greek engineer crafted it ( most likely the sudent of archimedes). Poseidonius did have one for example. What can we do ? First of all not spread unfounded unscientific bs.
A really enjoyable and educational talk. Thank you Tony Freeth and much respect for your scholarship. If more academics had your skill of conversation and ability to convey insights, the world would be a better place.
Take a look at the Holodomor
@L.aE.cH. Empire Take a look at the holodomor
What a fantastic in-depth lecture, really amazing stuff. One has to wonder at the level of sophistication of the ancients, what other wonders have been lost to time. They have been greatly underestimated.
Not lost in time but deliberately hidden and removed from conscious history with the purpose of feeding us the story that we are a breed of human ignorance. We are supposedly some near ape men, just grown out of the stone age, with limited brain capacity and a need for world leaders and supercomputers to make decisions for us.
We, as humans, would view ourselves completely different if we knew our race were here on earth for tens of thousanda of years, with all kinds of sophisticated and advanced societies. That's all in our dna, but wr are not supposed to know that
Most defenitly!!
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The "level of sophistication" of some ancients is remarkable and ranged broadly from technology to ... everything! For example, it appears that the extremely sophisticated Athens lost to (relatively less sophisticated) Sparta as a result of a strong, nascent move to ban slavery. The move to ban slavery inspired resistance by some wealthy Athenians (including Plato's uncle!) who conspired with Spartans to defeat Athen's democracy. I wonder, had Athen's not been betrayed by its own wealthy citizens (sound familiar?!) where would our world be now?
Yeah the viking swords they found quote "The famed Ulfberht Viking swords were made of metal so pure it baffled archaeologists. It was thought the technology to forge such metal was not invented for another 800 or more years, during the Industrial Revolution. About 170 Ulfberhts have been found, dating from A.D. 800 to 1,000" we should be rethinking the intelligence and time-lines it's pretty easy for things to get lost from a natural disaster plaque or war back then!
If you cant sleep I highly recommend this monotone lecture.. it worked wonders on my insomnia
This speech is pure gold. Tks for uploading.
Enjoying + admiring the comments as well…Heady stuff! Thank you to all commenters
We talk of the Dark Ages and the Renaissance, but ancient accomplishments like these remind us that these terms really do mean what they say. By the 17th century AD we'd only clawed our way back to where the Greeks were 2nd Century BC!
I have often thought this, not only about the Greeks and Romans, but so too about the Egyptians, Chinese, Arabs, and Indians. They knew *so much*.
The dark ages isn't even close to a rock bottom. The barbarians who laid the last blow against an already internally imploding society wanted to be more like them. Todays cultists want to destroy all we have.
nonsense. the "greeks" were constantly at war one city against the other. they owned slaves - on average 5 slaves per household. Aristotle had 5 himself.
also this "mechanism" is just assumed to be greek. we have no evidence to substantiate that.
@@ruralcoder it was exactly on topic but you did not get it did you?
secondly on the nonsequitur - even if i were a turk why would i be bitter? if i were a minoan I'd be bitter maybe.
@@zarni000 really?
Fascinating. My physics teacher in high school said repeatedly over the year, "The ancients were not dumb." How could they build something like that when they couldn't build the machine Babbage wanted to build?
with such a complex society, there must have been a need to be able to not only tell time, but predict lunar cycles, tides, and other things that would affect trade. people were constantly sailing to trade goods, so a device like this could have been very helpful
@@DachampsterStudios I had heard about this device many years ago. But this is the first time I have head a comprehensive explanation about what it did and how it did it. I don't know if it would help with longitude.
Babbage apparently was difficult to work with. Then on top of that you have to consider how prevalent our intricate technology is today compared to how many people could actually build a modern computer or even explain how every component works, not many can yet many can still learn. The way that Babbage had proposed his differential analytical engine is also similar to somebody today proposing to build a computer built on different principals to conventional methods not fully explored yet. At least that's how I perceive that situation. The ancient people's command over mathematics was definitely much more advanced than most give them credit for though.
Wow, just wow! What a great presentation. 205 BC just think about that for a moment for a very long moment! This raises so many questions about what we don’t know about our history. Thank you for uploading.
about what we think of ourselves and of progress
One man may of build this, but only from the knowledge of many decades of research. This is truly the most amazing discovery of all antiquity in my opinion. It tells me that the ancients weren't as clueless as one might think. They actually, were much better with a lot of things then we are today, like glass working. Its a shame the library of Alexandrea burnt down. Imagine the discoveries and literature it would of held about the Greeks, and their boundless knowledge.
The latest thought about the Alexander Library is that it held many unimportant works. and that the very important works of science and philosophy where in other libraries all threw the ancient world. Most works that were written on papyrus literally crumbled away under the weight of other papyrus scrolls. The ancient world had useless and pointless writers just as we have today. The rulers of Alexandrea were known for excepting any bodies writing so they could boost they had more books. Traders from all over the known world would bring scrolls to Alexandrea because they knew they could make some money. Important works were copies and recopies and the rest was of no value.
I wonder if the ancients found it somewhere and didn't know what it was either.
theirs a documentary out there that the Vatican actually has most the stuff from the library as it was moved out of Egypt and into the roman area by Ptolemy .
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Exactly what I thought..This device is definitely to sophisticated to be a one shot. It more gives an indication of just much we have underestimated our ancestors.
I've seen a lot on Antikythera Mechanism but this video by far has shown the Ultimate amount information on the subject
Years in my KRplus recommendation; and now i finally watched it! Super intetesting! :)
As we hear one person's hourly presentation, let's acknowledge that these findinds reflect the work of ancient inventors, and contemporary researchers, over thousands of years.
what a bunch of wind-bags. modern science is interested only in appeasing investors. education is indoctrination.
I do. Acknowledger, right here, hello!
Acknowledging, right here and now!!!
Thank you all, you are wonderful xxx
Incredible detail and precision of the gear teeth on such ancient technology.
An absolutely mind blowing subject to study. Hat’s off to all involved in decoding the Antikythera Mechanism; geniuses.
From Australia.
They're lying to you, everything came from black people
@@dealsed7544 lol good one.
@@b4ds33d I’m serious.
The guy building the replica is an ozzy, he’s got a KRplus channel about the process using time period tools and techniques
@@dealsed7544 You're seriously delusional.
Astrolabe - Astrology - Alarm clock - doorbell - plumbing - cement - etc etc etc - The Greek mathematician, philosopher and inventor Archimedes was born around 280 to 290 B.C. in Syracuse, at the time an independent city-state in Sicily. He studied in Egypt with the successors of the Greek mathematician Euclid, designed tools and weapon systems, but preferred pure mathematics. Archimedes gave the world “Eureka!” -- Greek for “I have found it!” and a catch-phrase for scientists.
Water Screw - Also called the Archimedes screw or Archimedes snail, the water screw is a device to lift water for irrigation. It was based on a helix, which revolved inside a tube and carried water up on the helical blades. A handle at the high end of the screw was turned to draw up water from the lower to a higher level. Oxen, horses or even humans could power the handle. The screw could also move light granular material such as ashes or sand. This is one of the oldest devices known for lifting water and is still used today in small-scale hydroelectric installations. The main advantage of the Archimedes screw is that it can tolerate large amounts of debris without breaking down. Even fish can be lifted with the water and remain unharmed.
Compound Pulley - Pulleys are wheels with grooves along which a rope or chain can be fitted. A person pulling at one end of the rope or chain can lift a load attached to the other end. The pulley wheel supports the load, easing the lifting work. Archimedes invented a compound pulley that uses two or more pulleys to move a load. An input driver wheel is connected with a rope or chain to a follower pulley. When this follower is connected with a rope to yet another following pulley, it becomes the driver for that follower. Archimedes demonstrated how the system can move very heavy loads by using it to lift a three-masted ship out of a harbor. Compound pulleys are in widespread use today to lift heavy loads such as engines from a vehicle body.
Iron Hand - The iron hand, also called the Archimedes claw, was a weapon designed by Archimedes to defend Syracuse from attack from the Roman Empire’s fleet in 213 B.C. It consisted of a huge lever. At one end was a grappling hook, or the claw. The claw was maneuvered to grasp the bow of an approaching ship, lift the ship out of the water, then drop it onto the water or onto nearby rocks. The ship's stern would be flooded and the unfortunate crew would be thrown out of the vessel in many directions.
Integral Calculus - Integral calculus -- a mathematical theory that derives the areas and volumes of spaces and the relationships between variables such as speed, distance and time -- remains one of Archimedes greatest accomplishments. He calculated areas of figures by breaking them up into a number of tiny rectangles and adding them up together to give a total. Today, this process is called integration and forms the basis of advanced mathematics.
If you say so...
@@persebra 👁️ say so...
@@persebra Wow. Deep.
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Thanks to Greeks for the mother language, the alphabet, Democracy, Human Culture , Science (Maths, Music, Theater, Astronomy, Medicine, Mechanics), EVERYTHING!!!
Lmao you mean Afrikans...
@@DrixMaloneDFS you do not declare your origins may be you are aristocrat!!!Hahaha!
absolutely incredible how was this ever thought up by the Greeks and then so beautifully. it is so incredibly accurate. Thank for
your presentation.
it surely was based on knowledge coming down from older civilisations, just like medicine for ex
Definitely wasn't the Greeks
Are they Blac?
@@Tmac_305 there's greek written on it it was shown in the video
I was glued to this lecture. Very challenging, but super enjoyable. Great lecture.
If more college lectures were like this, more people would be in there and graduate, even make it through a class. And I’m 26. This is refreshing. He gets it how to keep an audience.
Can you imagine what was in the library in Alexandria Egypt. I've always believed it was burned to dumb down Humanity.
All about power. Stay blessed friend!
or did it go into the Vatican? 8 stories deep they say..
Ppp
The library of Alexandria going up just hits me in the pit of the stomach from the loss. A Chinese emperor did the same thing. I am Firmly convinced that human society goes completely mad every 10 generations or so. Come to think of it, I think we are in a period like that right now.
It wasn't destroyed in a fire, just gradually neglected over time and funding eventually cut off.
A fascinating talk. A shame there wasn't time for more questions at the end. The engineering techniques would be fascinating to learn. I hope in the future the doctoral student can give an equally fascinating talk.
Your Openmindedness, along with your Depth of Research, accuracy of perception and skilled interpretation / presentation are a JOY to experience!
THANKS
This video doesn't do this amazing device justice.
Visit the museum in Athens, it's breathtaking 😍
Proud to be a part of Greek History 🇬🇷
I was mesmerised by this lecture. Simply brilliant. I was glued to my seat....how wonderful our researchers are...😀
Excellent lecture, I listened in bed one night and had to miss work the next day but it was well worth it!
Yes they are so wonderful and I was amazed.a lot of effort have been put in this indeed.😄.I would love to learn more you know.
This is absolutely fascinating. Thanks to the persistence and techniques of these brilliant scientists for pursuing this wonder of the ancient world! Their brilliance is only rivaled by the ancients themselves.
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Always had an interest in this wonderful anomaly, and have watched a few videos regarding it which mostly just recycled the same limited info. This was a wonderful thorough analysis that I really enjoyed and found quite fascinating. Glad there are those like Tony and the others with the passion and dedication to completely analyse and share this with us.
This was an awesome presentation. Thanks to all of the scientists who worked on this project. Just shows how far advanced the civilizations from the past were.
Like I said 20 years ago, it's clear to see humans are devolving again. They couldn't even build a pyramid today as perfect as 200.000 years ago.... Dr. Freeth is a Master in many things yet talks like he has a learning disability, if you talk like that in my country in primary school you need to redo your year all over. He takes pauses every couple of words, it's so bad, maybe that's how British people talk but it shows they are slow, he constantly needs to grab the words he wants to use, we see this normally when people have a huge language barrier or learning disability. He said "uhm" over 5000 times in one hour and half. We fail class in oral exam if we say "uhm" 1 time.
@@NoMaYT_ Clearly you neither have basic knowledge of linguistics nor psychology otherwise you would have a better understanding of the mechanisms at play here...
Humbling, isn't it?
To know that some person, 2000 years ago, created a device that only a miniscule fraction of our CURRENT population could emulate.
For me, it reiterates the importance of teaching science and analytical thought in schools. Civilizations always fall. Ours will one day too. But preserving knowledge past those hard times is the best way to both forestall that inevitability, and assuage the impact it will have on future generations.
@@DaveDEF82 true that
"You don't just make progress in science by getting everything right. You make progress also by getting things wrong in an interesting way." I love that.
Yes, you learn more from your mistakes than you ever do by confirming what you already know to be true
Your Wrong. Das is incorrect
But I am correct
I worked with a great electrician when learning my trade.
He once said to me I can teach u sumthing. You can get it right 1000 times n learn nothing but get it wrong once and I will remember it and learn more.
Always stuck with me
@@nickjohns1192 ... in this
"whirld" the be all, and the end all, of everything, is ALCHEMICAL ALIGNMENT, determined, directed, deseminated, and governed, is ultimately captured, kept, and bound up with POWER-!!! The knowledge of which, lies with the secret societies of ancient mystery schools...
One of the most fascinating lectures about the Antikythera mechanism.
Most enjoyable speaker. Made something technical sound interesting and humorous, but still gave an abundance of information.
Once again after watching this gentleman lecture
Much of our future can be found in our past if we could only join all the dots and thanks to the likes of this man we get one step closer
Facinating
You mean after we weed our way through the misdirection and lies fed to us by the current day narrative?
This is one of the few times I've actually been shocked by a video with 'shocking' in the title.
@Steve M
It shocked me also
both realizing this discovery and the title came in shocking me with hindsight. ROFL 20/20 🤣
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@@nmvhr posting random numbers to confuse the schizophrenic conspiracy theorists gang
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@@janobara6337 LMFAO YES
Look up electrocution, now that’s shocking
I am too stupid to ever understand a fraction of the ingenuity of these dated mechanics. How are these people so smart? Truly incredible.
I believe humans are losing intellect compared to these people
As a sailor I would like to suggest that it was part of the ship's navigator's kit and not part of the cargo.
Agree: it's not the sort of instrument used to run a brewery, woolen textiles, manufacture of swords, or consumer goods. It's a special item useful to navigation, cartography, or civil engineering.
@@sltomsik It also isn't useful in navigation. It CAN be used to compute significan political dates (eclipses), planned game events, dates for celebrations, anniversary events... and possibly some astrology.
rather unlikely as it has nothing to present for navigation. Had it been for that, I would have expected it to have possible destination locations, and star positions instead of eclipses and game dates which would be more for political events.
@@jessepollard7132 I know Astronomy and Astrology, but I'm not a Navigator, nor a Mariner.
I designed & wired up a digital clock drive and servos for my home telescope. Precision to 0.6 arc-sec for photographing Messier objects and nebulae.
I find my way by stars outdoors at night in wilderness camping -- or used to. I'm a geezer now, don't sleep on snow fields anymore
But I wouldn't trust my eye to guide a ship.
Still, the discovery reminds me of the Siderial clock drive on a telescope mount. More complicated than the ones I used.
@@sltomsik Good going. I used to help set up a telescope for an astronomy class. The clock is needed to keep things in view. it is also needed for navigation (it is the ONLY way to determine a longitude, and still requires a known point for local time, so that the local time minus the reference point clock can give the longitude.
And this is also why the Antikythera Mechanism is useless for navigation. it cannot be used to determine either latitude or longitude. thus cannot provide the necessary information.
Excellent. If the origination date is correct this suggests that it was already 100+ years old when it was sunk. Thus, it seems likely that there would have been others made, perhaps even more advanced models. Brilliant research though! What an inspiration!
That is a good thought.
Hats off to the metallurgists of the time.
Imagine a workshop somewhere pumping these things out every few days. All the gears being cut from jigs and whatnot. If they could build this, they could easily have built tens or hundreds of them.
@@User0000000000000004 this isn't a mass produced device
If it was thousands of years old the knowledge could have been lost and it might have been the only one
Did I understood correctly, that the dial had cca 230 months? In that case, isn't it correct that the dial was usable for only 12 years before it became inaccurate?
Beautiful conference, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and discoveries!
stumbled on this and couldn't stop watching it. My goodness the work that went into making this thing, let alone understanding it then and NOW!!! Brilliant work. I hope the other men or people who helped in all ways are smiling so big from Heaven as each person watches this.
Incredible work, so critical for the ongoing mystery of human origins. Beautifully done…
What's utterly amazing is that so complicated and accurate a device could be created based on the geocentric idea of celestial body movement.
Great presentation. However the heliocentric explanations are absurd since those false theories hadn't been conjured up for another 1400 years after the device was constructed.
@@flatearthterrafirma8571 I have to admit, the presenter said it best himself; "Keep It Simple Stupid", and the system we follow today is a far more complicated model of the same machine we just watched get deciphered from over a thousand years ago.
Geocentric is a bad idea for those that refuse to believe in God. That is why it is not popular. People think they are God.
Great video, grately appreciate the layman's term delivery in the fine-tooth piece by piece description of the construction. I appreciate the time it took and all the people whom contributed. Amen, most of all..... To the person ( still a mystery) who actually invented it. Your contribution to mankind is immeasurable.
humankind
Respect for the Greeks....
More like geeks lol
Excellent... both enjoyable and informative.
Unless one works with metal and the machining of it its hard to describe to the layman of its difficulties. The machined tolerances of the metal components indicates that some very accurate lathe must have been used to machine the nested tubes surrounding the central shift. The mere fact of the maker(s) producing accurately thicknessed bronze sheet to form the gears is another question worth asking.
Maybe they're cast not milled. ?
Perhaps Atomic Emission Spectrometry (AES), Inductive Coupled Pasma (ICP) or Atomic Absorption Spectroscopy (AAS) testing can tell not only the source for the copper and tin mines based on it's molecular fingerprint,, but also help date and locate the epicenter of that technology based on the percentage of the alloy composition.......like they have done with silver/gold and brass hollow ware from 17th and 18th cent. Europe??
@@kennethhamilton2499 ever considered the Phoenicians? They traded in copper and used astronomy to navigate the Mediterranean, they also gave us the Bible, which is an astrological allegory for the age of Pisces, something that only the mechanism was capable of divining
Too accurate for a cast
@Aurora Peace don't even get me started, omg. The Adena in Ohio worshipped the Hand of Orion, that's the literal name of Betlegeuse. It's also where we get the Persian Hamza, and it featured on Phoenician tombs in Carthage. They also used the same Metonic Lunar Solar calendar, and erected a Shiva Lingam every 20 years, to commemorate a King's rule, just like they did in Egypt, same solar observatory Pyramids, and Stonehenges/ Shiva Lingam same Feathered Serpent Priest Kings (Native American feathered Crown, being the Phoenix). Canaan is Phoenician for Serpent Kings, and the Aztecs spoke how the Serpent King was supposed to rule by outsmarting his subjects. The old Phoenician Serpent Priests were even depicted as serpents in little clay statuettes offered at the Temple of Obelisks in Byblos, from which the Bible takes it's name. There's even a star in Orion called Rigel, also known as Aurora, the Dawnbringer, Phoenicians even transmutes to the Scions/Sons of the Phoenix, or Sons of light, exactly how the authors of the Dead Sea Scrolls identify themselves, exactly what the name Freemason means, (House of light) a reference to Isis worship. Tyre/Jerusalem was also a center of Masonry, just like Thebes, then there are the twin cities of Heliopolis, one in Lebanon (israel) and one in Egypt, it was the Heliopolis that the Phoenix returned from India, anointing itself in frankincense and myrrh before stepping onto the Holy Grail, Philosopher's Stone to self immolate and be reborn by the baptism of fire. It represents a metonic cycle of 3 216 year periods, when Venus rose un the Spring with Orion, representing Lucifer, the Light Bringer, where they would add 3 days to the calendar to coincide their holy days with the zodiac.
The Antithykera mechanism was also based on the Metonic cycle, and was the basis for Revelations, marking the transition of the age of Pisces into the age of Aquarius from 2001 to 2021. The mechanism was even found off Potamos island, aka Patmos, the island where St John (Code for Osiris) wrote Revelations. The New testament reads just like you would the Antithykera mechanism, anthropomorphizing Jesus as the Sun and Moon, Orion, and Serpentis, the 13th sunsign of the Babylonian zodiac associated with Hermes, Thoth, Enoch, etc. The feathered Serpent, the Phoenix, the American Eagle are all the same thing, a symbol of resurrection, based on the cycle of the Sun and Moon. I've done a whole video on it on my channel if you're interested
Fascinating topic and masterful delivery. When the speaker snuck in a dryly humorous remark, the audience laughed; one loud guffawer must have been a great encouragement. I’ll never be able to generate the thing’s name in speech or writing, but for the investment of a little bit of well-enjoyed time, I know much of what it can do. I look forward to catching another one of Professor Freeth’s talks. (I won’t forget his name. It rhymes with teeth, which the ankle-pankly has in profusion.)
The questions this device poses are fantastic. The study gone into this device poses are just awesome.
Fascinating ! A wonderfully eloquent presentation. Thank you Tony the facts and background work gone into yours and your predecessor's research are far more compelling than i could have imagined.
If only the Library of Alexandria was not burned. I imagine a blue print in there.
I think about this every day
When a human being creates a machine, he or she always does that step by step. This raises the prospect that you soon will be able to reconstruct, word by word, what ancient people have thought and spoken. There has been a continuous flow of contacts, imitation, and other influences, from the antiquity until today. Once even better computers than those of now will have arrived (e.g., optical devices), it should become possible to trace back much of the lingual work ever done on the planet.
was it burned with the books inside or did they go to the vatican......before the destruction ??
Or maybe t's under the Vatican??? 🙄
I do not want to fit
this is honestly the best explanation and demonstration by far. well done, and thank you
Totally fascinating study. Hipparchus, the ancient astronomer from Rhodes was also thought to have had a hand in creating the Antikythera mechanism. The latest study allegedly places the date at 205 BC, just seven years after the death of Archimedes. Dr Freeth and his team pinpointed the origin of the mechanism, possibly to Archimedes himself, although, as suggested his device may well have been a collaboration between Apollonius and Archimedes, who knew each other or other scientific minds and skilled metal craftsmen, now lost to history, using elaborate tools, similar to jewellers for such intricate work. The device may have been a modification or earlier devices, as suggested, as a way of monitoring or predicting the movement of the heavens. More information following further studies will likely emerge. Such a tragedy that the Alexandria library, Egypt was destroyed and information forever lost. Arguments will persist, but hats off to the investigative scientists that are following the clues, evidence and inscriptions left behind by the scientific minds that were originally were involved in creating this device.
The ancient Greeks never get enough credit, thanks for doing them justice ♎
Who told you that this was ancient Greek? ;)
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@@GGTanguera the description says so as well
You mean Greece doesn't give Africa enough credit.
@@buddhistpalm39 Its not Africa my friend. Greeks are mainly North African and Middle Eastern by origin. Accomplishments of many other Mediterranean and European ancient ethnic groups become "ancient Greek" or "Roman".
Best talk on the Antikythera mechanism I’ve heard.....bravo!
Concur
Ah, but did he tell you it was used to write the New Testament? Or that it was made by the Phoenicians/ Carthaginians, not the Greeks
What a fascinating speech, by a excellent and lucid informant, I could listen for hours.
How about a Joe Biden speech?
I was amazed at not only the image but the difference between the xrays taken from years past to current day, I mean how astounding.
Absolutely fantastic! Thank you for putting this amazing work up!
Thankyou for posting, I really enjoyed this. I as a fitter and turner which teaches you to make just about anything except its size.. This raises some interesting questions. So did they have lathes and mills and a compound dividing head like we do today. What type of bronze or brass was used? Were the gears forged and then machined for added strength and no stress points? What about the clearances used and the tolerances used and lubrication. So much about people being primitive when we go back in time. Whoever espouses that notion needs to confess they were wrong. What measuring instruments did they use, did they use vernier scales for finer measurements or something like a shadow graph to magnify the error. Could we make something this like this today? What method was used to make the letters. We need more history like this to be taught.
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Fantastic! Overwhelming.
11:35 tools for navigation are often done by astrological measurements so it's really one in the same not two different assumptions. Very interesting lecture I enjoyed it!
It is really weird that ancient Greeks had this technology but didn't do the industrial revolution... imagine if they did it 2000 years ago, how much ahead we would have been now...
Ancient man was far more skilled and knowledgeable than they have been given credit for by Academia.
Especially indians
Academia likes to portray them as barbaric savages.
Dwij Gurram Not really... There are a lot of highly advanced ancient cultures that fall into that category
@@AmateurishAstronaut Indus valley civilization is the oldest , India has the highest density of cave paintings. And also were dabbling in plastic surgeries as far back as 4000 b.c (Charaka), indians invented a lot of other stuff too. There's too much to cover in this short comment.
Dwij Gurram Indus Valley civilization is not the oldest. Yeah, lots of ancient cultures did an incredible amount of things. You could find just as impressive findings in ancient Africa, Europe or the Americas. India having the most cave paintings definitely comes down to the size of the country, it’s an entire subcontinent after all. Don’t get me wrong I’m not downplaying India... But it doesn’t stand out above others.
You would think a complex device like this couldn't be a one off, and I wonder why more haven't been found, or at least other, earlier versions as complex machines are normally arrived at through gradual, transnasional progress.
This is just as frustrating as the neo Darwinian proposition, and the complete lack of "in between" transitions leading to the final product!
Fascinating!
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Love you both, and hope that the social, political, psychological, interpersonal, and other multi-faceted "energetic bombardments" that we all seem to have been contending with and adapting to, haven't caused too much disruption to your work and private lives. For me, it's been a rough period, with the lock-down, international travel restrictions, and dealing with "end-of-life" issues within my life's "Mandala", having lost my Mother (95) in 2020, and my dear cat and closest "confidante". "Beena", to feline Cancer, just 3 weeks ago! Now I'm caregiving for my 98.5-years-old Father. The Buddha's teaching of "Life being Suffering" came out of his contemplations of "Impermanence and Change", the "illusory nature" of all we perceive through our sensory "data".and our "attachment" to "pleasant sensations and outcomes"......and our natural tendency to feel "aversion to unpleasant experiences we unwittingly experience. We're never "quite" satisfied with our place in life - and in the world. Contentment seems quite elusive, doesn't it, friends? I hope that the coming changes and "transformations", foreseen by so many sensitive people around us, include an easy-to-use "customer interface"!
I hope you are both healthy and happy, enjoying your important work....and life, together.
Blessings, friends!
Wow. I've never before watched a powerpoint presentation that looks like someone has put decades into it. On the content, it's amazing to contemplate the questions raised by this device.
I am just fascinated by the creation of the physical gears themselves considering the time they were fashioned.
This is a wonderful presentation!
That was almost ruined by an asshole that kept coughing. Stay home, you bastard. Don't ruin it for everybody else
@@antikokalis Sick people have to learn too Anastasios
@@despicableone4495 lol
@Cedar_Of_Lebanon ;)))
@@annamichos3752 Covid? I mean the annoying sound he makes...
I listened to this lecture twice today, truly fascinating
So glad I found this. Excellent work. Thank you.
I have no education but I wish I was taught by this guy mind-blowing that thing is just wow.
You have educated yourself to the point where this subject has something to say to you. So... well done you and well done to all the researchers who have expended so much of their careers on determining so much about this fascinating object. A true wonder of human ingenuity.
---Best video I have yet to see on this fascinating artifact- Brilliant as it is thank you for this as it does true justice to the subject!.
It’s absolutely amazing they even picked it up?!
Such creative minds. It proves, to me, why education, creativity & the freedom to do so, is so important for the western world.
I’d love to see a remake of it, up close
Thank you so much! Excellent lecture! Fascinating history! Unbelievable ancient science.
Genius , without this Ancient Greek astrology and technology imagine where humanity would be. One of the greatest mysteries decoded over the course of centuries. From when it was first discovered by the green sponge fishermen. How wonderful life is , all of it connected by language , physics, mathematics, geometry, and astrology. A true engineering marvel.
But most people think we are way more advanced than those of ancient Greek.Yet we can't figure out how they cut granite beams exactly flat weighing 90 tons out of a quarry then housred yhe 50 ft in the air and set them on the pyramids.
@@ronniebuchanan6575 Greeks didn't build the Pyramids.
It appears to be an analogue computer, that emerged at an era of linear geometry, as contrasted to a contemporary digital computer from the present era of algebra and discrete mathematics!
No! The only mechanisms described here are gear sets and pin-and-slot pairs; both digital device categories. There is no analog mechanism mentioned within the Antikythera Mechanism to confer analog motion. As an inventor of two CVT's and an IVT (all analog mechanisms), I can assure you that gears & indexers cannot produce an analog ratio without an analog (continuously variable) component.
Semantics. Certainly an analog predictor/mimic. My question is the evolution of the knowledge. How many years/centuries of observation were required to develop the counts that resulted in gear teething specifications or was there a mathematically predicted derivation?. If the latter then we a looking at pre-Kepler accomplishments of Kepler by 2000 years.
Google: Charles Babbage and the difference engine.
Stop...... I read the same thing word for word somewhere else in an article....lol...
I agree with Zenon Eleateis
This has fascinated me for years, thank you for sharing all of this knowledge
It’s amazing what the man/women, are actually capable of when we put our minds to task, the period in which this was made, is absolutely mind blowing!
@@user-ds6uc2hx3f indeed
THX for sharing all this knowledge, to us out here or there ... ;) Great video and explanation....
What a fantastic lecture on this mechanism, his explanation and progress with other researchers really help us understand it's reality in it's actual time of creation. Nice work 🖒.. cA
Just leave away the apostrophes of those "it's"s, and your comment is perfect. So far, it isn't clear if you really mean the first one.
Fascinating and also very shocking that we’ve gone back in time for eons in advancement. Like knowledge got lost somehow. I can spend days philosophizing about that. I greatly enjoyed this presentation. I’ve been fascinated with this object ever since I first learned about it on “Mysterious things”.
What Christianity does to a mf continent
@Lucious De Luca okay; just got chills. Going to google “yugas” now. Absolutely fascinating.
Martin Kenny. Flat Earth modeller mentions yugas 👍 he did a vid with odd TV. It's on bitchute. Also Eric dubay on bitchute. Flat Earth president. Many vids and evidence
@Lucious De Luca Referring to the Earth's wobbling cycle?
It's interesting that in the current age many would say that our enlightenment has declined, yet our knowledge and technology has excelled.
This is the best most concise and clear description of this amazing mechanism that I've ever heard or seen it was a delight to see it. Truly hard to believe but there it is! Much thanks for a wonderful documentary!
Thanks kept my interest all the way through.Also conjured up quite a few questions in my mind.
This confirms what litterature tells us about the greek antiquety; they had reached a level of advancement that we in many ways are struggling to match.
I think we should dig more into the past then look for the future.
All Sumerian you mean the Romans and Greeks used all Sumerian culture the west in all their glory ( NOT ) changed all Sumer culture to sound west . Greeks used all Sumer culture as their own the Romans killed JC
Why would you believe a word of this video when the title alone is an outright LIE. The Antikythera Mechanism was found in the middle of the ocean. There is no truthful link to Greece what so ever. Why are you so easily believing lies of these liars?
seais level what???
No link to Greece?
They have found Greek symbols on the scales.
Who would lie about that?
And for what purpose?
This is . Good job. Yawn
@@seaislevel7233 Ocean??
how can 1.6k people hit the dislike button! im the last person to have stumbled on this type of video but i was glued to it and its got me interested in more of stanfords videos instead of mindless toss i usually watch! great video i thought!
Cuz the patriarchy is evil… or something
Because most of them are not on purpose. Sometimes I click like and come back later seeing it shows dislike.
1600 dislikes are clearly from ignorant people... with 1.6 IQ's... who has been asleep their whole boring lives!!!!
People, dislikes are also from people who aren’t interested in the video and don’t want to see more videos like it in their feed. Dislikes serve more than one purpose.
Sometimes i wish i stayed in school...
This talk was incredible, stumbled upon in accidentally but i very much enjoyed every single minute.
Most of school is horrible. Its gone downhill pretty bad.
You don't need schooling.......only desire and curiousity
Very intricate presentation. Well done. Best i have seen on this topic.
Truely a brilliant analysis. It implies the Greeks or Egyptians had a lathe and dividing head. The gears are tiny and perfect with shaped teeth. Very advanced. I studied this in college decades ago. What an advance from what we knew then... Bravo -
Very much so not only in the fact that it exists, but much more amazing how it was made and how many were out there. Go to machinist school and talk to me about it all computing now 😂
Are you sure? Maybe they were helped by some other far more advanced civilization...
In every age there are people who make the rest of us seem drooling idiots.
It is the obligation of the rest of us to find, nurture and encourage these people.
Even if the mechanism was the result of one such genius though, the technology must have involved a community of very talented people.
This is a great study of the history of science and technology.
The same happened with Charles Darwin. But now, hopefully, we all can ignore those science deniers and embrace the facts of our reality.
The great thing about this is if we're wrong, we can find another, more reliable solutions and not sticking to the same answers like some groups out there.
@UCilEKHUR-WtlI3JD5yTcD3g lol. Creating a physical object requires fundamental understanding of the nature of the materials used.
Youre comparing this to observation of a phenomenon of change in a species' traits, qualities, and features over several generations
You're judging Darwins ability as a fish to climb a tree.
The only clown here is you.
With a lunar cycle so detailed it seems childs play to include a tide predictor. A merchant ship captain/Owner would find something able to predict the tides, the amount of light the moon would give at night, reminders about major games and festivals. A man could get wealthy scheduling a ship/ships with such information.🧐
Throw on a "close enough" annual known weather cycle predictor and it could give reminder/warning that could save a ship. _This month starts rainy season, this month starts olive harvest, this month starts windy season._ Just tossing around ideas. Fascinating subject and great to see how far the understanding has grown about that object and what it reveals about ancient society and their understanding.
Were I to spend decades studying this artifact, I have no doubt that my findings would likely be condensed to "Lumpy piece of metal with some corroded cogs and bizarre scratches, discovered at site of a 1st century B.C. wreck, likely coincidentally located after being dropped overboard from a WW I troop transport."