Neil deGrasse Tyson Explains “The Sunset Illusion”

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So that's where that phrase came from 😄

… until the sun has REALLY risen!

Haha. That’s great!

Light takes approximately 8min to reach earth from sun so technically you're 3min late

Thats awesome

Impossible ‘cause world’s flat 🙄🤣🤣🤣

Wow this is now something I need to experience

This can only happen if the sun is local and not in space 93,000,000 miles away.

We're not all comedians, you know. Only about 74%.

He sums up things very well

Chuck is not funny and tries waaaay too hard.

its a great distraction

Yo guys, i just wanna say that u can overcome ur depression. U can do it guys.

Tyson better keep Chuck employed because he makes me laugh all the time.

You are a toilet human and a simpleton

@Flat Earth Data this is how you tag......also, what objectional reality is the technology you use to promote your incredulity based on? (Quantum mechanics) To answer your leading question, and cut your undoubtedly parroted response that should likely follow, as insults and arguments from emotion seems to be all that the #FlatEarth "community" is capable of, the answer is HORIZON. No the word horizon is NOT derived from HORIZONTAL. Level is a word, like most words in the English language, have a different meaning based on context. To calculate gravity you use the formula M1*M2/r^2. Any ball that is ON 🌎, will have a gravity that would be negligible. If we shrunk Earth down to the size of a basketball, it would collapse into a singularity from the sheer mass, but all of Earth's water could fit into a tea cup. Pour a teacup worth of water on a ball, adhesion alone should hold it. You have been tricked by a snake oil salesman, I hope you can stop trolling science and actually learn from it. #TrollingFE

This is the true sauce right here.

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This is the best thing I've seen all day

Perfect

@Flat Earth Data ermmmm... Curvature

@Flat Earth Data at sea level, about 3 miles

@Flat Earth Data Correct, they do not touch.

Chuck is a nice guy and very funny.

I cant help but feel that neil treats him like he knows nothing. Chuck knows a great deal.

Exactly! I love science more when Neil teaches it.

I think two critical factors come into play. Firstly, a teacher who is interesting, engaged and genuinely enjoys teaching the content. Secondly, having a relevant topic or subject that you can relate the content to.

Because they never teach what is math & why we need to learn instead they shove hundreds of formulas to solve seemingly illogical problems for everyday life with extreme logic of math.

Rraviteja Mavr ,You Have To Start Out With 2X2,Before Being Able To Calculate Anything...Whether Its The Curvature Of The Earth,Or How Much Oxygen Do I Need For My Pt,On What Flow,and At What Rate..Need To Learn Math 1st,And If Your Science Teacher Didnt Teach You That...Well Then,They Done It Wrong

Some may disagree, but math on its own can be dry and boring. But if you hang in there and grab the basics you can use that to unlock all of physics. The application of trigonometry is how you can figure out where the sun really is setting. I didn't get this until I took college physics and realized those fundamentals finally came to light into something that I found super interesting.

Me too 😁

They have a lot of chemistry for a physics show.

That's more like Gravitas 😅

Chuck literally called Neil “Babe” at the end.

@@theopminer952 Yess :D

Because they are two pedos.

For the most part. Sometimes dude on the right makes some lame jokes, and sometimes I think neil is fake laughing.

@@anonymouscommenter7689 same.... the other dude is cringe to me, & often seems I am alone. Well, glad I am not d:-)

I would personally prefer less comic padding.
The material is interesting enough not to need spicing up,
so to me it's just distraction and dilution, especially the lamer moments.
Largely I think the mindset "learning needs to be fun", when taken (as it often is) to excess, becomes a way of papering over the cracks in the common first-world situation where teachers lack the ability to render the actual subject matter sufficiently interesting,
and kids have been pandered to by the "Must be Fun" brigade their entire life, to the point where they have little interest in the subject matter, even in those cases when it's *not* badly presented.
And here we see the same methodology in use with adults.
In very many ways, the American dream has become all about never having to grow up.
The real problem in the first world (it seems to me; I promise I'm about to climb down off my box!) is that the kids don't have any visceral connection with their need to know, whereas many kids in the third world will do whatever it takes to get themselves to school, given half a chance.
There are times when even mediocre teachers can do okay in some parts of the third world, as long as they don't actually get in the way of the kids arranging ways to learn stuff for themselves.

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no... this time it is ABOUT YOU... 🤣
our senses are "lying" rather failing to understand... not the sun... lol
sun been here doing this for longer then animals existed.. so who was it "lying" to before then?!

@@MaaQuchii I think we all know that. OP just posted a nice little poem that wasnt meant to be take so seriously 😉.

Excellent! If you wrote that, get it registered. lol
Because I suspect it will make it's rounds on social media.

Sean Kavin I wonder why physics classes don’t make it as fun as these videos. We would all be In Mars by now

I can already see (or hear) this sound byte in every FE video claiming Neil admitted there is no real sunset.

@@Morpheux1 Because quote mining and out of context statements is all they have.

@@alext7074 It's going to replace the NASA artist saying that the blue marble is Photoshopped because it has to be 🤣🤣🤣

@@aravindkrishnan3148 Some people just like to deny what they can't comprehend, unfortunately, our educational system is bankrupt.

Doesn't it already take 8 mins for the light from the Sun to reach earth so if a sunset and sun rise already happened, is that not 13 minutes late?

A communicator*^.

I also discovered these quite late. Catchin up now ☺

Totally agreed and same, just found them and glad to have. Eye opening even if some is known it is great to add more knowledge.

​@@romilpatel6957 Same!!!

Will love to hear him recite The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner

Eryn Morris: it's not Nights in White Satin. It's called "Late Lament/ Resolvement."
I don't know much about astrophysics, but I do know my music.

It's amazing someone bring up that song, I only heard it as a child a long time ago and just came across it recently. Love it!

You are not seeing the sun go down behind a curve, it is disappearing because of the vanishing point (the point at which receding parallel lines viewed in perspective appear to converge) What you are watching in the video is two charlatans, trying to steal reality from you, so they can place their fiction in its place and use it to manipulate and control you.

He like to lie. You are not seeing the sun go down behind a curve, it is disappearing because of the vanishing point (the point at which receding parallel lines viewed in perspective appear to converge) What you are watching in the video is two charlatans, trying to steal reality from you, so they can place their fiction in its place and use it to manipulate and control you.

He is like that because he is not teaching you real science . If he didn't simply make up the science to suit the central governments agenda , he might have some credibility . If he taught you the science , he would be just as boring as Mr. Wizard without a Timmy ! Those old enough to remember Mr. Wizard only tuned in to see how far Timmy could push Mr. Wizard , and how mad Mr. Wizard would get too , it was grate . See Neil can't even copy Timmy right , his cohost simply agrees with every nonsensical thing that Neil says .

If it's your physics class, it's awesome!!!

This is only half of what the public knows about physics... matter isn’t what’s real... the real secret is between all matter. The space force knows... electromagnetic gravitics will make rockets redundant.. tbh they were redundant before they were created.

That I actually understand and enjoy!

Aww that's sad , to think , how very little you are being left with , and you probably think he gave you the cosmos to .

Actually it's more like its not there anymore , but we still see it . We see the past when we look at the stars .

It went to plaid

@@francoisrossouw9864 Actually everything you see is the past not just stars, but things closer to you are almost real-time.

@@MrT------5743 True

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It also means you are looking in the past. your eyes, even binoculars, or any kind of telescope are in fact... time machines :) that's pretty cool

So he did say that, thought I must've misheard.

😂😂😂

They probably a closeted couple

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I came to the comments section to check if someone else caught that first. I see we are many 🤔

Interesting, as well, thank you for posting!!!

LeftPinkie I was thinking the same thing

Yes, I understand the same. But my question If sunrise is 13 minutes early in some place that "ghost "must run faster to make up for those 26 minutes?

thank you I was wondering the same

Totally agreed!!!

The only thing you learned from these two is how to manipulate, people who do not know any better. You are not seeing the sun go down behind a curve, it is disappearing because of the vanishing point (the point at which receding parallel lines viewed in perspective appear to converge) What you are watching in the video is two charlatans, trying to steal reality from you, so they can place their fiction in its place and use it to manipulate and control you.

Well sun isnt the center of the solar system technically, bcz the star wobbles cauz of the planets (jupiter) around it and this is why the sun is also orbiting around something and that is.... Wait for it ..... Empty space.

i think neil is getting crazy.......thinking sun is an illusion

@@masternobody1896 Did you watch the video?

@@justsomeguy892 yep

@@masternobody1896 I don't believe you

Would that be physics, or chemistry? :-)

You had the same profile picture as me I was wondering when TF did I type this

Yeah. Nice profile pic btw

Facts!!!

Gotta love science 😆

Google is listening to you!!!🤫 Shh!!!

It's kinda scary when that happens, lol. But as someone mentioned maybe half in jest, Google is listening. But earlier today I was just thinking about a guy and certain videos he does and how I hadn't seen any in awhile, then BOOM! there's one of those videos. Is google listening to my thoughts?

Kidnapping; really? 😧

Not really. You are seeing the sun as it is (albeit as it was 8mins ago) in both cases. It's just the position of the image that is refracted.

JohnyG29 Yes but from our point of viewing. It has already set or has yet to rise over our horizon.

@@BondiAV er...no.

A child that finally understands 👍

What the...

S-u-n

I'm glad you made it!

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It would be better to say one of Jehovah's Witnesses

Btw, the "need to know basis" comment had me cracking up, because that was the same approach I took while trying to explain it. 🤣

Not sure, but at least you could have very detailed measurements to work from. If you can move faster than light, you can build an aperture of arbitrary size and density for a picture of it by chasing down the light it emitted in a particular instant along a variety of angles.

But really it is not that much to figure where it would be by the time we get there. We already do that now. If someone throws a ball near you, you have to anticipate where the ball will be and meet it there to catch it. Or going to the moon, You have to know where it will be and aim for that place. The only difference with faster than light travel would be knowing where it is now, not where it appears to be and meet it where it will be when we get there.

@@MrT------5743 All true except you forget to factor in the fact that dark energy doesnt expand the universe on a scale of catching a ball or going to the moon. It's the incredibly vast distances between especially distant galaxies. Maybe we will figure it out but at the moment it's still hard to wrap ones head around it

@@KruitonsRGud I'm not astrophysicist or anything, but I think dark energy and dark matter is all around us. I mean they don't exactly know what it is, but do know it is all throughout the Milky Way and speculate it is within the solar system, within the earth itself and not just way out there in other galaxies. I think seeing its effects is harder locally because we are bound by gravity...Gravity is stronger at our smaller scale than when we look out in the vastness of space. But then what do I know.

@@MrT------5743 I also dont know for sure that it's not all around us but that's what I've been told from reputable sources, that on the scales of even inside galaxies dark energy doesnt have much of an effect compared to the vastness of intergalactic space. Again all this hinges on the fact that faster than light travel is possible at all and whether our bodies could withstand whatever extra dimensions are probably required to fold space and time in that way. If the speed of light or close to it is the maximum we can travel at there is very much so a specific point in the future that after we cross it the increasing speed of the expansion of space will effectively cut us off from ever being able to reach another galaxy again, even at lightspeed. Also if it was true lightspeed, supposedly light has no experience of time at all according to Einstein, I think, so we would just perpetually travel forever without ever actually getting there

I think it's because of the altitude! Imagine sitting on a chair and seeing something on the horizon or may be an object which is behind an obstrction. Once you stand up, you can see more of that object behind the obstruction. This is why you could see the sun even after you camera stopped seeing, i assume you were at a higher elevation (even some feet higher then the lens). Have you ever tried watching planes near sunset? You would have watched sunset at the ground, but when you look up the airplane is still receiving sunlight. Or may be another common example, the sun light up the peak before it lightens up the ground!!

I don't think you've figured it out there unfortunately. As Ankit says it's more likely due to a change in perspective, with a higher view point meaning you see the sun above the horizon. Your optics will change the appearance of object relative to one another. It is often said a telephoto lens will "compress objects" but I don't think that explains the phonemenon you mention. Your eyes being higher does. The light that comes into the lens is refracted the same way that the light entering your eye is refracted as this refraction is happening as the light enters the Earth's atmosphere. Incidentally your lens (and your eye) also relies on refraction to give you a focused image. So it is definitely not correct to say that the "lens is somehow unaffected by refraction".

It's not just that they may not be in that position, they literally are not in that position. Proxima Centauri is 40,208,000,000,000 km away from our sun. That's the closest star but it still takes 4.35 years for that light to reach us and many stars are millions of light years away, some of the stars we see in the night sky might not even be there anymore or may have gone supernova (like the star Betelgeuse in the Orion constellation). It's long overdue for a massive explosion and it's too far from us to be harmful to us but when it does explode it's going to be spectacular, like those amazing space pictures you see of supernovas but right now we're in one of the most boring parts of our galactic neighborhood. When Betelgeuse explodes it will be the brightest object in the night sky; it could literally happen any day but then again it may have already happened but the light from that explosion will take 642.5 years to reach us.

@@liquidbraino I don't know if they mentioned it here (because of all the comic padding, I lost patience with trying to skip through and find out) but the effect you mention is an additional reason why the sun is not where it seems to be, it's where it was about eight minutes ago. Which at sunset makes quite a difference, but is also means that the time of (say) meridian passage - what navigators call "local apparent noon" is not the time of ACTUAL meridian passage. However instead of applying a correction which would always be the same amount, it's far simpler for the tabulated positions of the "sun" to actual denote the position of the IMAGE of the sun.