Who Portrayed Batman The Most Accurately?
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- 게시일 2024. 04. 27.
- Lets not argue about who is your favourite Batman, or even who was the best, but who was the most accurate? Have your say in the comments!
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Kevin Conroy
He’s good but he’s only a voice actor.
@@connorsimpson503he’s not just good, he was the definitive voice of Batman. The best representation of a character doesn’t always need to come from live action.
Obviously Kevin Conroy, but the purpose of this video was most accurate live action Batman. He stated at the beginning of the video that Conroy is the definitive Batman.
Nah I love Conroy but the most accurate is Adam West. No one else is as prepared as Adam West Batman
Voice actor doesn't count lol
The problem with the question is that the character himself has been depicted so incredibly differently over the entire course of the production run of his comics and each and every actor has portrayed the character perfectly, in accordance with at least one version of how he was depicted in the comics.
Agree. I read the comics in the 60's, and Batman was more detective, and not an uber martial artist/semi superhuman super villain fighter.
was just about to say this. Also he mentioned that Batman: The Animated Series most would agree is the best depiction so far ... but I think The Batman (2004-2008) is probably my favorite portrayal.
@@JacoryWilliams one of the things that I disliked about The Batman was the appearances of a lot of the characters like Joker and Mr Freeze
I also agree. The Batman of 1939, of the 1960's, the 1980's and today are different characters.
@DAVID-io9nj
Yeah. If it was only based off of the early versions of Batman, I think Pattinson would easily win that title of being the best. I think his edgy personality is almost off character but it fits very well with the movie on a broader scale. The detective aspect of that movie was unbeatable. Also, not many people point this out, but the number of times they show off Batman’s ability to just disappear from or emerge out of shadows is pretty cool. The Pattinson Batman is extremely stealthy when he wants to be
In 1989 BATMAN, Batman cracks the Joker's chemical combination that is killing people. He provides the information he discovers to Vicky Vale who then gives it to the news. Detective work in the movie, just not entirely shown as to how he solves it. The fact is, there is some detective work in his character, it's just not predominantly displayed.
Michael Keatons Bruce Wayne is the only one who didn't seem exactly like his Batman. Every other actor was just as grim in both persona's
@@georgedavis9975 to be fair, Bale’s Bruce Wayne does his best to be the playboy billionaire in public in Batman Begins (shows up at a hotel with models in his Lamborghini, “buys” the hotel with a check, goes swimming with models in the decorative pools) and the first part of The Dark Knight (shows off what he can get away with at the fancy Gotham restaurant because he owns it, goes vacationing with the Russian ballet, holds a fundraiser for Dent while being the late-to-his-own party, arrive via helicopter to landing pad outside his penthouse rich guy). There’s even a few moments in TDKR where he tries to be this way, although older and a bit broken, and known more as a recluse.
Actually Keaton Batman did do detective work in both movies. It was just done behind the scenes of the story. In the first movie he is the one that cracked which products not to combine to prevent Joker’s toxin to activate on peoples system. In the second movie he did investigate the Penguin’s past and his connection with the Red Triangle Gang.
But he killed people…
@@yourfriendlyneighborhoodva9825Batman has killed in the comics as well. Its not as much of a big deal as people who has never read the comics make it out to be.
@@ANGERINSIDE just cause he has killed in the comics doesn’t mean that it’s good.
@@yourfriendlyneighborhoodva9825 None of my comments were on whether or not what Batman does is good. Im talking about the accuracy to the character compared to the comics which is what the video is about. Keaton’s Batman did do detective work and him killing does not make him inaccurate to the character. Just because you might not like that doesn’t mean it’s not something Batman wouldn’t do.
@@ANGERINSIDE I just find it hilarious that you saying him killing doesn’t make him inaccurate to the character even though one of the things that everyone on earth knows about the character of Batman is that he doesn’t kill, under (almost) any circumstances. Sure he kills in some comics, but those killings often serve a purpose. As good of a movie as Batman ‘89 is, him just randomly killing thugs does not fit the character or serve to benefit the story in any way. But that’s just my opinion.
In BvS, Affleck’s Batman was a Batman who’s been around for so long that he no longer cared about how he appeared as Wayne. He only used the Bruce Wayne persona to further his mission as Batman. Contextually it made sense for the character.
Agree. I was going to say the same thing. I thought Ben was a bad idea when I first heard it. But he killed it. He knocked it out the park.
Tbh hes fit more of Thomas Wayne batman.
Yes. Batman became the person, Bruce Wayne became the mask.
@@charlesbyrne5735 it was always that way, but at that point in his career, Batman stopped caring about the Wayne side
There's a plethora of Batman stories with an older experienced Batman who is NOT a murderous psychopath.
In both Keaton movies, he does the detective work, investigating the joker's chemicals, investigating the penguin's past etc...
Agreed, the maker of the video is skimming the movies and didn't really pay attention. It's just a video for the clicks
And he had the ability to do the split personality that separates Bruce Wayne and Batman
Keaton Batman actually killed.
@@kingcurmudgeon8685 so does every Batman. Sorry but the beatings the Batman gives would kill a person
Exactly! The Keaton movies did not emphasize too much on detective work but the elements were definitely there.
If you combine Keaton’s theatrical charisma, Bale’s raw no BS attitude and Pattinson’s detective work/good nature: that’s batman
And Affleck’s size
Dude left out the best live action Batman ever lmao🤡
theres nothing great about anything pattison is in. no sparkling vampire is ever worthy of batman. matt reeves vision was horrendous
@@dabatmanBatfleck fucking kills people. Not a good Batman.
@@nomercyinc6783funny. He had the best Gotham, the best riddler, the best detective Batman, and the best atmosphere but sure horrendous vision
Batman did do detective work in Batman 1989
I actually think the Pattinson portrayal (mostly due to the writing), does capture one element of Batman that I have not seen in any other live action portrayal. That being the focus on helping people.
Lots of people forget how compassionate and selfless Batman is; it's the reason why he doesn't quite fit the definition of an anti hero. He's not just going after criminals, he's trying to help people in general. Easiest examples I can give; in the animated series, he volunteers his time at shelters, he gives jobs to people who need it, he supports projects that help the people who need it the most. When he's dealing with the criminals he tries to help them to "come back to the light". Sympathizing with Mr. Freeze, offering Clayface to find a cure, trying to help Harvey Dent recover his identity, giving the Ventriloquist a job to get back on his feet, even down to giving Harley Quinn the dress she wanted to buy when she's recommitted to Arkham. Justice League the animated series, jumping into a burning building to save a little girl and telling her she's going to be alright. In the animated universe, trying to talk a mother down from throwing her baby off a roof and then telling the baby he's sorry when he can't save the mother. Comforting a crying child he's just released from a cage saving her from being horribly disfigured.
There's a saying that I love "If you can't picture this incarnation of Batman comforting a small child, it's not Batman." Nothing against any of the prior actors, it's just the movies never really took the time to focus on this (Affleck helping the civilians in BVS does not count as far as I'm concerned because of how Zack Snyder reacted to the question of why Batman kills in this movie. Showed me where his mind was when he was writing this character). The movies typically portrayed Batman helping people he either had a personal connection with or would have a connection with (Robin, Vicky Vale, Rachel, Harvey etc.) , or saving them in general by defeating the bad guys. There wasn't much focus on Batman going out of his way to save the people directly.
When Pattinson's Batman cut the wire, led the people to safety, and then helped with the rescue efforts, that was the moment where I felt that Matt Reeves understood this character. That is the first time in my memory that we ever had a scene like that in a live action Batman movie. It was that moment that I could see Pattinson meeting that requirement I listed above, and I think it's important because it was the defining character change of the movie; Batman changing from a symbol of vengeance to a symbol of hope and protection. Again, that's on the writing, but man does that earn some points in my book.
If we could combine the Bruce Wayne that Christian Bale gave us, the physicality of Bale, Affleck, and Kilmer, the detective nature and compassion of Pattinson, I think we would have a perfect portrayal of Batman. But only if it's Kevin Conroy's voice
Kieneu Reeves
Lol that's the gayest one
Well said
Stop
@@MikeLegend-rb7ky what are you talking about dude?
The way Batman moved in the Flash movie fighting that huge kryptonian is how I imagined Batman will fight. Not too bulky yet not too thin and but very agile.
I would have imagined Batman to be more cautious and study with 'prep time' in order to defeat the Kryptonians. Keaton just jumped right in as if he was combatting normal humans. Usually he would have done more research on the situation and figured out what was suppressing Kara and used it on the Kryptonians. That's what most of the Batmen do. I'm blaming this one on the writer LOL
@@hogscattle7877 - That's what I was thinking when I was watching it in the theatre. They at least should've had him use his Dark Knight Returns Iron Bat type suit against the Kryptonians
@@hogscattle7877batman v Superman did a great job at that. How he went through extensive research to fight Supes.
@@hogscattle7877he also knew his time was running out and went all in
@@ammagnolia That makes very eminent sense. Nice one, Magnolia!
Keaton is the GOAT, if only because he defined the benchmark for generations to come.
Patrick Bateman played the Batman role to perfection.
wait what
@@diobrando6961lets see paul allens batman performance
Affleck's Batman + Bale's Bruce Wayne + Conroy's voice = the perfect Batman
Facts
Affleck’s Batman killed people. Pattinson is a good fighter and a good detective
Affleck was the worst Batman 😂 really wish they woulda chose a different actor
How was he the worst batman?@@tardguard3679
@@footsoljier6468I don't care about the kills. All of them have killed people. It's just glossed over in other versions. Affleck had the best performance as Batman.
I think the second Batman film is gonna be about Bruce becoming the philanthropist we know and love. I think that’s why Reeves focused so much on Bruce’s obsession with Batman in the first movie. To show that he’s learned over the time in between films and now realizes he has the means to help the city during the flood and restore his family name
Batfleck >>> Emo Batman
I mean, if I were Bruce and had the ability to release my trauma on criminals like that I’d be “emo” and obsessed with it too
@@rfahy5000calling him emo completely misses the point of why he’s like that in the movie.
I still have a problem with that because Bruce should know from the getgo that he has to put on a bit of an act as Bruce Wayne to throw people off of his true identity. Or at least that’s what I’m used to.
@@tommy_swim243 Batfleck>>>Hot Topic Batman. Better??
ben affleck's batman nailed it in batman vs superman, from the height, body mass the chin, the darkness and brutalness captured it all
Everything well said. Couldn't have said it better myself. Only wish foolish critics would recognize this and not just criticize him on every little detail. Oh he killed! Big deal, Batman have killed in the past too and have been overlooked. Just Affleck's Batman only matters because he was made directly by Snyder based off a comic that hardly anybody knows about.
Loved Batfleck. Straight out of Millers DKR. Brutal. Intense. Battinson rocked it. The year one batman beautifully done. I hated the casting of Keaton in 89 but I ate my words. Loved him in the Flash. Bale Muh. All 3 movies did very little for me except obviously Joker. Clooney and Kilmer not even mentioning. 😊
I’m really surprised that you didn’t make note of the fact that the Adam West Batman (and Burt Ward Robin) were VERY faithful to the Batman and Robin of the Dick Sprang years.
I loved that tv show
The 1989 batman had detective work. He figured out who the joker was and figured out how he was poisoning the city.
Maybe so, but that's the only detective work he did in the entire movie. Before Joker emerged, he made absolutely no effort to combat organized crime and spent his time just beating random, small-time crooks who didn't even have a connection to the mafia. Compare it to Nolan's Batman, who BEGAN his career by exposing Falcone, gathering up evidence compromising him and basically serving the most powerful crime boss to the police on a silver platter.
@@Genesivare yeah thats why he was at ace chemicals right?
@@berbtheherb And he spent his time there just beating up mooks. Again. And the only reason he appeared in the first place is not because he did some investigation and discovered for himself that Jack Napier is going to be there, but because he just HAPPENED to overhear a conversation between Gordon and one of police officers (and he would've missed that, too, hadn't Alfred notified him). Zero detective work here.
thank you! actually more detective work than Bale, who just analyzed some fingerprints in TDK. Robin Blake in TDKR actually does more detective work in the entire nolan trilogy.
Didn't take a great detective to figure out the Joker. Dude said to him the exact thing he said to his parents AND looked just like him except older.
Batman 1989 - his detective skills were definitely on display. He figured out the way to avoid getting poisoned by the Jokers chemicals. He also figured out who the Joker was. In Batman Returns he also figured out Penguins scheme with the children.
Never thought of that...
Christopher Nolan shows that on Dark Knight though when using the gun machine, studying the bullets, and finding the police tied up in an apartment room during Gordon's assassination
But, Twilight boy portrayed a good Batman just starting out.
Michael Keaton will always be my favorite, and I really liked R. Pattinson also.
@@user-co8uy5rb2sHe did a very fine job. Especially when you consider everyone was waiting for him to fall flat.
Well, almost everyone. Those who had seen "The Watchtower" prior knew that the Twilight boy had some acting chops.
@@krishanuA I loved how they portrayed him as 2nd or 3rd year Batman.
Batfleck - "Men are brave" 🔥
Michael Keaton. He nailed bruce being uncomfortable outside the suit and the change when he becomes his true self in batman.
Keaton is absolutely the most accurate and believable cinamatic portrayel of Batman. how can anyone really argue with it? anytime Batman is mentioned i think of Arkham games(which is absolutely the perfect Batman) or Keatons Batman. the only mistake in his movies was him killin a few people. i think if Tim Burton could go back and change that he would. and hes got the best Batmobile as well.
@@donkeylips-125 "Keaton is absolutely the most accurate and believable cinamatic portrayel of Batman. how can anyone really argue with it?"
A lot of people who actually read the comics can. I can, for instance. Burton and Keaton surely did a major step towards turning the Batman into a serious character and shedding the campy image of the sixties, but claiming that it is "the most accurate" is just ridiculous. Nolan's movies contain FAR more references to the source material, but I guess you need to KNOW the source material to notice that.
"the only mistake in his movies was him killin a few people"
Really. The only mistake is that Keaton's Batman ignores one of the most important (if not THE most important) Batman's rules - thou shalt not kill. Truly, that is just a minor detail than can be totally ignored.
Let us also forget about other inaccuracies, like total simplification (if not downright murder) of relationship between Batman and Joker. Burton claimed that he based his movie on "Killing Joke" but in reality, the only thing that those two works have in common is that not-yet-Joker gets bathed in a vat of chemicals. And the whole twisted connection between The Bat and The Clown, based on complementing each other and analogy rather than contrast (which, again, was portrayed fairly accurately in Nolan's movie) was brought down to a soap opera "Joker created Batman and Batman created Joker".
In fact, relations between Batman and most major characters were completely butchered. Gordon might just as well be removed from the film entirely and replaced with totally original character made up for the movie - there'd be no difference.
"He nailed bruce being uncomfortable outside the suit"
Except in the comics, Bruce was not "uncomfortable outside the suit" - he just adopted a persona of a billionaire playboy so that nobody would ever suspect that he, of all people, could be Batman. And he was very good at it, having absolutely zero trouble interacting with others, being very popular and jovial on social events, and changing girlfriends like underwear.
Keaton's Batman acts absolutely nothing like the above. Instead, outside the suit he behaves like a socially inept, withdrawn dork. Bale's Batman, for contrast, acts exactly like his comic book self - appearing on soirees or other social events all the time, acting like an eccentric, irresponsible billionaire who has too much money and seems to have a new lady by his side at each party. The only thing Keaton's Batman has in common with comic book character as much as Bale's is that he's readily giving his wealth to charity.
So yeah... basic comparison instantly tells who nailed the character better.
I’ve been saying this for years and I wholeheartedly agree with you. Ben Affleck‘s ferocity in Batman V superman was unmatched. While Christian Bales, Bruce Wayne was suave, so sophisticated and intelligent. Perfect combination.
What bale movie did u watch his Wayne was a goofy ,
Affeck sucked it was laughable when he fucking was in a desert in full batman costume wearing a jacket
@@spectrexr1What?
@@TFCRAFTER jumping in the fountain. When he crash the Lambo and pretending he was just running the light when he was really saving the dude that was gonna snitch on him . He had the Reeves Clark Kent persona like he was a dumbass so no one took him serious and wouldn't think he was batman
@@TFCRAFTER jumping in the fountain. When he crash the Lambo and pretending he was just running the light when he was really saving the dude that was gonna snitch on him . He had the Reeves Clark Kent persona like he was a a goofy so no one took him serious and wouldn't think he was batman
Christian Bale is my favourite, he nailed the character of that billionaire who everyone hates yet at the same time he's willing to sacrifice himself for the people, and he struggles while doing that because he's one man after all, his shape was perfect tbh, let's be honest he was wearing armor, realistically speak, if he was big and wore armor he would've looked ridiculously overburdened.
He actually was too big for Batman Begins, he had to cut back a bit when bulking up for the Dark Knight. But that armor shit is right on point. Affleck looks like he's wearing Spandex. Bale is suiting up for a fight.
It’s absurd how the author of this video basically admits that bale’s Batman is the best but he won’t admit it because “the writing is too good”. 😂
Michael Keaton. He balanced every aspect of Batman perfectly, crime fighter, scientist, and detective. Other actors tend to focus on one aspect. But Michael balances all three
Yes, Keeton was the best. When he stepped into the scene as Batman u was like "This guy is such a BADASS" then when he was Bruce Wayne you was like "He has morals but he is dark. He is dark and he has that THING that makes Bruce Wayne mysterious". He was THE BEST BY FAR.
yea except he kills people.
And he kills people
Stop lying.
Christian Bale came closer than any to a real life Batman. That’s the point of a live action film. His was more believable, it made you feel like he really could be Batman. That’s what did it for me with The Dark Knight trilogy.
Bale's Batman is realistic sure but NOT accurate. Batman kills or allows villains to be killed in every single entry. My biggest issue with Nolan's take on Batman is that he's a hypocrite. Claims to NOT kill but then kills with no problem and justifies it to himself.
In Batman Begins he has Gordon take out the railing for the train in case he couldn't get the train to stop. He planned ahead for this. During his fight with Ra's Al Ghul on said train, the train controls break and the train could no longer be stopped. Batman knows full well that he sent Gordon ahead to take out the rail so when the moment comes he chooses NOT to save Ra's instead rationalizing, "I'm not going to kill you, but I don't have to save you." Yes Bruce, that is literally the same as killing him. You intentionally created this entire scenario where he dies. You absolutely could have saved him and locked him up. He killed that man in cold blood and pretended he didn't.
In The Dark Knight he tackles Harvey Dent off a building and Dent dies. Batman feels nothing about this. Decides to cover up the truth, and just walks away like he didn't just kill a man. I don't understand Nolan's decision to have Harvey die from the fall.
The TDKR Bruce just allows Catwoman to shoot Bane through the chest with his Batpod and seems to really be over the whole not killing thing at this point since it really serves no purpose in the story anymore.
Matt Reeves The Batman is the only Batman who doesn't kill and who goes out of his way to prevent others from killing. The most accurate Batman is Matt Reeves The Batman as he is the only one to live up to Batman's moral code.
No, a live action film is not inherently bound to the criticism of how realistic it is. I point to the thousands of fantasy live action films as proof
He was terrible and with that stupid voice he made up that is still made fun of today
Ras Al Ghoul was too dangerous to be left alive
@@DonjaAdcov-ik7ou Ok... your point? Joker was too dangerous to be kept alive, but guess who lived. The whole point of Batman is that he believes everyone can change. Its to a point where its not only a character strength but a character flaw as well, he refuses to kill even when its the easiest and the most sensible answer.
Val’s performance deserves more love from casual fans. He portrayed Bruce’s fractured psyche as well as anyone has. He didn’t put on the eccentric mask as much but he still felt like a playboy with how he treated Kidman’s character.
Well said man, Kilmer is so underrated. He was in a shit Batman movie and he paid the price. He nailed it.
It's the car
Chicks love the car.
Totally underrated and yet I have to often cite how despite the change in visual tone, they did do some things correct. Take for example my favorite exchange in that film:
Bruce: So you're willing to take a life?
Dick: As long as it's Two-Face
Bruce: Then...it will go this way. You make the kill. But your pain doesn't die with Harvey, it grows. So you run into the night looking for another face, and another, and another. Until one day you wake up and realize that revenge has become your entire life. And you won't know why.
Dick: You don't understand. Your family wasn't killed by a maniac.
Bruce: Yes they were. We're the same.
Dick: Well if we're the same Bruce, help me, train me. Let me be your partner.
Bruce: No...I can't.
I also like Kilmer as Bruce Wayne, he actually looks like high class cocky snobs we all hate.. and poor traumatic child that keeps his pain inside
@@judasthepious1499 I can see how
Rewatched this due to the last video. It’s a great assessment and review of those who have played the dark knight. Love the channel and the Batman in depth analysis. Appreciate it
I honestly loved Bale, Affleck, and Pattinson and all 3 are so different.
Look, suit, voice and physicality = Batfleck
Morality, code and ethics = Battinson
Gadgets, tech and weaponry = Baleman
Vehicles = Keaton
Perfectly put 👌
@@superamazinman I could BARELY reAd this SHiT
Batfleck should be look and physicality and that’s really it, his voice is invalid since he used a voice modifier. It’s like having training wheels on to make your voice sound deeper. Kevin Conroy is THE voice of Batman and it’s not a question
@@superamazinmanBro, if English is your first language, please go back to school.
If it's a 2nd language, you should have just wrote it in whatever your 1st language is, so we can use KRpluss translator.
Because your comment was broken af.
@@donjon1179 Conroy is the voice of Batman, but I was only referring to live action portrayals. I liked that Batfleck used a voice modulator. It'd make sense to help hide his identity because Bruce is a well known celebrity. Even without the modulator, it sounds good.
I think something that's missed about Battinson is that EVERY SINGLE STEP he takes, especially while in the suit, is almost lethally calculated and the tension is so tight that you can physically SEE how deliberately he's moving around. Take the scene in the beginning, when Gordon is escorting him through the hallway to the crime scene, or later at the funeral when the DA has the bomb as a neck collar. When he enters that room and the cops notice him on the monitors slowly creeping across was so satisfying to me for some reason. The subway scene (and beginning monologue) also come to mind. I think these are all definitive Batman moments. It really shows the depth that Robert was able to create and how studied he was in the psyche of actually being Batman (in the suit), IMO.
Hopefully he bulks up for the next couple movies and we see his Bruce Wayne mask take form.
I think now that he knows he has to be a symbol of hope more than a symbol of vengeance, he will be interested in being Bruce Wayne as much as he is Batman.
Exactly for me rob’s Batman is easily the best bale’s Bruce is the best. I really don’t see how Affleck Batman can be considered the best depiction when imo he only has the looks
Exactly. You don’t have to have his trauma and pain telegraphed. You can feel it through the screen. Everyone complaining about his Bruce Wayne I just keep talking them to wait a little bit. 2nd year Batman is still young and inexperienced. He will learn that his appearances as Bruce are just as important and I’m guessing his presence will be felt more in the next movie
Pattinson is my personal favorite
My issue with Battinson: I should look at the actor and think "that guy could kick my ass." For reference, I'm 200lbs and competed in judo when I was younger. The only ones to pass the test are Affleck & Bale. Affleck was particularly brutal, they just got it.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 🦇 *Introduction to Batman's Portrayal*
- Overview of Batman's rich history in media.
- Objective: Evaluate actors based on accuracy in portraying Batman and Bruce Wayne.
- Criteria: Focus on accuracy rather than personal favorites.
01:08 📚 *Defining Batman's Character*
- Batman's embodiment of duality: symbol of fear and hope.
- Batman's operation in the shadows and working outside the law.
- Description of Bruce Wayne: charismatic Playboy with a tormented soul.
02:31 🎭 *Adam West's Portrayal*
- Adam West's campy and light-hearted Batman.
- Reflecting the 1960s era, more comedic than accurate.
- Emphasis on crime-fighting, detective work, and problem-solving.
03:40 🦇 *Michael Keaton's Portrayal*
- Michael Keaton's revitalization of Batman on the big screen.
- Unique intensity and charismatic charm in the portrayal.
- Critique: Lack of emphasis on detective work in the characterization.
04:38 🤔 *Val Kilmer's Batman*
- Val Kilmer's balanced portrayal with brooding intensity.
- Showcase of Bruce Wayne's internal struggles.
- Physicality and graceful, athletic presence in Kilmer's performance.
06:13 😎 *George Clooney's Batman*
- George Clooney's portrayal leaning towards action hero archetype.
- Suave and charismatic Bruce Wayne with a lack of emotional depth.
- Criticism: Lack of brooding intensity and internal conflicts in Clooney's Batman.
07:39 🦇 *Christian Bale's Batman*
- Christian Bale's portrayal pushing the boundaries of complexity.
- Commitment to the role, physical transformation, and nuanced performance.
- Critique: Bale's Batman voice becoming excessive in later films.
09:06 🌟 *Ben Affleck's Seasoned Batman*
- Ben Affleck's portrayal as a seasoned and weary Dark Knight.
- Highlight: Rugged physicality and world-weary demeanor.
- Critique: Affleck's Bruce Wayne lacking eccentricity for a believable disguise.
10:03 🕵️♂️ *Robert Pattinson's Interpretation*
- Robert Pattinson's fresh and introspective Batman.
- Exploration of the detective aspect of the character.
- Critique: Lack of physicality for a truly believable Dark Knight.
10:44 🏆 *Conclusion: Evaluating Batman Portrayals*
- Recognition of Christian Bale's impact but attributed to excellent writing.
- Personal preference vs. accuracy in portraying Batman.
- Acknowledgment of unique contributions from all actors.
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The Michael Keaton Batman did figure out how Joker was poisoning people, so detective work, but they did do that in the background and only show the end result of him solving the problem.
I'm going to disagree about the lack of detective work of Batman in the Keaton movies. He discovers the Joker's poison combination, which while not shown a lot of on screen, he still purchases the items, does the tests, and cracks the toxic combination, saving the city with the information. He is often shown doing research in the Batcave, also tying Penguin to the red triangle gang. I'd say it shows his detective side rather well.
Yep, he showed Vikki Vale he cracked the Joker's code.
I was coming here to say this. Wondering if the writer even watched the Keaton Batmans.
Exactly my thinking.
Adam West was technically the only live-action portrayal that accurately adapted the source material because it was the most like the comics published at the time. Episodes were even based off issues of Detective Comics and Batman from the Silver Age.
Exactly! It’s unfair to say he wasn’t accurate based on the comics that came out in future decades.
Adam West was clearly the best Batman ever. What a superstar!
On top of Batmans detective work, Bruce Wayne was the educated aristocratic type. Adam West's voice and appearance portrayed those qualities best imo. His calm and collected demeanor actually balanced out the over the top acting of the rest of the cast and made the show work.
Aside from Conroy. Affleck was the most comic accurate imo. Suit. Lifestyle. Combat. Presence and fear.
Ben afflict 100% as older Batman detective who gave up on the justice system and only wanting payback. He gave up on the system. He didnt care if he was seen as "justice". His size was amazing too. Not a fake bulked up suit but actually put on huge muscle mass like no other batman did.
His version of bruce was great too with 1 simple line "whats your super power" "am rich" perfection.
He showed fear too. When superman showed his strength he just was in ahh but as well knew he was fd. He knew needed an uperhand.
It really is criminal how underrated kilmer was...sucks being between a batman everyone loved and one everyone hates
Micheal did do detective work he looked into Jacks medical records, also found out about penguin being in the circus, and also found out the Jokers trick to the chemicals.
Exactly. You beat me to it.
Plus it was a year 1 story . Returns had a lot more detective work .
It was specifically mentioned that Pattinson's Batman explored the detective nature of the character..
Good call. Spot on
Came to write the same - there was a great deal of detective work.
What Affleck's performance did for me as both Bruce Wayne and Batman was it felt like Kevin Conroy's TAS Batman jumped onto the silver screen. That's how good Affleck's performance as Batman/Wayne was.
As a Batman fan my entire life, I approve this list:) Good break down of the characters. Fun video
Claiming Michael Keaton didn't do detective work is absolute nonsense. His portrayal, to date, has leaned into actual detective work and intellectual prowess more than any other.
"More than any other" seems like a streach
You're pushing it by saying more than any other. Bale did detective work in his first 2 movies. I don't remember any detective work I Batman Returns. 89, definitely.
Disregard the previous Returns comment forgot about the Penguin and Red Triangle Gang stuff. Cheers
He figured out joker poison code he uses to poison the city and he figured out the penguin had an alternative motive which was to murder the first born sons of Gotham . So did do detective work and actually stopped the crimes.. that more than what Pattinson did lol
One of the most Batman / Detective scenes that will always stay in my mind was after he was reading the files of Oswald cobblepot he was patrolling the streets of Gotham on a snowy night as he was investigating the penguin, driving by to spy on the penguin till his day bone-chilling epic scene!!!
I agree that Bales Batman wasn't as an intimidating figure as Afflecks. To have seen Bane man handle Afflecks Batman and break his back would have made a very terrifying scene indeed.
😂 Ben Affleck’s Batman would’ve beat the hell out of Tom Hardy’s Bane. The would need to find an actor much bigger with Tom Hardy’s talent. That would be awesome but near impossible.
@@stephencunningham6962IDENTIFY YOURSELF! Or else… I will break you! >:€
Affleck batman gonna tear bane into pieces
Bruh he is the strongest and largest batman in live action
💯💀
It was an intimidating figure like afflecks
@@stephencunningham6962nope false
Pattinson is the most promising for me so far, he nearly perfectly adapts the Batman we see in Year One who also struggled to be Bruce Wayne at first. Hopefully we see his transformation into the aged Batman we all know and love, imo he needs a Robin in the sequel to start on that path.
West: has his cheesy quirks, but was certainly a product of his time, by being brought into the mainstream.
Keaton: where would the hero be today, hadn’t been for this iconic depiction, especially for the modern world.
Conroy: very dreamlike, so aesthetically surreal.
Kilmer: leaves me speechless, in the weirdest way possible.
Clooney: we don’t speak of such things.
Bale: a fan favorite in the history of cinema, though very realistically approaching.
Affleck: so unnerving, very otherworldly.
Pattinson: a fresh restart, for something so comic accurate.
Considering Adam West was portraying Batman in the 60's (the character didn't take a darker turn until the mid-late 70's), his portrayal was pretty spot-on for the time.
ALSO, did you not re-watch Batman '89 for this video? A big part of his story with Vicky Vale is the fact that he figured out Joker's chemical poisoning scheme and he wanted her to give the evidence the authorities.
I agree about Adam West. The 60s were right in the middle of the Silver Age of comics, and those comics were every bit as campy and ridiculous as what was portrayed on the show.
Was going to make the point about Detective work in Batman '89 but I'll just like yours instead.
I'm gonna disagree with you about when Batman became a "dark" character though... during his first appearance, in Detective Comics #27, he drops some dude into a vat of acid and in his first solo book (Batman #1, 1940) he kills a guy by hanging him, by the neck, from the Batplane. Right from the early days, 'ol Batsy carried a gun and killed villains off left, right and center. Even the Serials of the 40's had some darker themes and on screen deaths, it was the 60's TV series that gave it a lighter turn that didn't go away agin until the brilliance of Frank Miller... The Dark Knight Returns and Batman: Year One remain seminal works in continue to inform the character to this day.
@@The_Rising_ApeHe was dark in 1939 and 1940, became lighter in 1940 when Robin and the no killing/no guns rule were introduced, and became even lighter to the point of campiness after the Comics Code was implemented in 1954. Batman actually became darker after the show to distance itself from it, with The Dark Knight Returns (1986), Year One (1987), and The Killing Joke (1988) taking that even further
I think that’s something that’s been lost in translation generationally. The people who made the Adam west Batman show knew they were making a silly campy show.
Superman and Batman both killed during their first year or two. In 1940, DC saw that the pulp magazine industry was being targeted by censors and the government due to their risky content. DC became afraid that the same could happen to them. Superman and Batman stopped killing and each became more kid-friendly. Other early DC heroes followed suit.
And Batman returning to his darker roots happened earlier than many realize. It started in 1969, a year after the TV show ended. Dick Grayson graduated high school and moved out of Wayne Manor to attend college. Batman returned to being a darker solo hero. Neal Adams redesigned Batman's look to be more intimidating. Over the next few years, villains like the Joker went back to being deadly and dangerous.
Pattinsons Batman is definetly the most intriguing take on Batman considering his very distinct style and the fact that this is a Batman thats still very early on in his crime fighting career. I hope we get more movies with him and see further character development. he has so much potential
I absolutely loved his all the scenes of his detective work. And especially the fact he does it on a motorcycle carrying the batsuit in a bag. And his version of the batmobile was fucking sick
Hell nah battfleck is better
@@aldogonzalez137no
Pattinsons Batman is forgettable. The Batman was just a sugarcoat for a detective movie where Gotham police solved the Riddler problem without Batman. Watched once, never again.
You're in luck, Robert signed on for 3 films so this will be a trilogy. The Batman: Part II will release in 2025.
The only one i wouldn't want to piss off was Afflecks. That being said, that would make him the best.
Kevin Conroy said himself he thinks #Batfleck is the best batman of all time! Mad respect for him because he was the best! R.I.P
I really enjoyed the Pattison version and I think it does capture a lot of what he was in the original comics, a menace to criminals and the worlds greatest detective
No way, he’s soft and feminine.
@@ImmortalArts33 he did not come off that way to me at all.
@@ImmortalArts33Batman gave multiple enemies Permanent brain damage in multiple scenes and shrugged off a bomb exploding three feet away and you consider him weak?
I like the Pattinson one a lot too but he’s more like an interesting, alternative take on Batman. He’s basically goth/emo Batman which is cool but not classic Batman !
@@vaskater07 batman in the early years dressed like a bum until he learned he was going to have to put on a act billionaire.
Why does everyone like Ben Affleck’s Batman? He was just the punisher in a bat suit.
I am not a fan of Ben Affleck as an actor. I didn’t agree when he was chosen to play Batman, since he already played a superhero before (Daredevil, the movie, which I didn’t like it too much either). So I went to watch Batman v Superman with a little negativity. But then, in my own surprise, I was amazed how he could play Bruce Wayne & Batman so well. Somehow I could feel the sadness and the anger which he always had since his youth traumatic event.
Adam West was perfectly accurate to the comics at the time
I'm surprised you never mentioned his no kill rule, people love to bring that up when they talk about accuracy.
I know fans want to see that, but it's literally impossible to not kill someone when you are outnumbered each night with people trying to kill you.
@@heybrowhatupI think the point of what plushie is saying is that alot of people gave Batfleck a lot of shit for killing people. But in the same breathe say Michael Keaton is greatest batman. Even though he's literally blown people up
@@imyoursuperbeast8220 If you kill them with their own stuf it's not "killing"... Oh yeah there's that guy burned alive with the batmobile's thruster. He's fine !
He should have brought it up, because it’s an essential component of the character. Batman killing goes completely against his own motivations and what the character represents. (I’m aware that Batman originally killed in the comics, but the character has evolved exponentially since)
They should, it’s batmans major rule as Batman, it’s what separates him from the criminals
I think Pattinson has yet to portray the Philanthropic aspect of Bruce Wayne and being the playboy. He even has a line in the end narration. I think we’ll see his evolution into the Bruce Wayne/ Batman that we know and love, but it’ll be a process.
Makes me realize just how deep Batman and Bruce is. Took all these actors to bring different aspects of him. I’d say Patterson(best detective cuz you can see him working everything out in his head, also had some pretty gritty/brutal writing for fight scenes), afleck (most intimidating in terms of body appearance), Christian bale (best Bruce Wayne billionaire interpretation. )Those are my top 3😂
You forgot about the old black and white batman TV show from the 40's it looks corny now but its part of the history
I loved Batfleck. For me there was always the brooding, disenchanted, cynical, alcoholic persona of Batman who I missed from the screen which was brought to life by Affleck. Batman's persona was something in parallel with Marvel's Ironman, and although everyone loves RDJ's Ironman, I would like to see the character's dark side too.
TBF, we also have to consider the different ages of the comics. Adam West, despite the camp, was an accurate depiction of the Silver Age, when a Comics Code was implemented that prevented writers from depicting characters too seriously. In fact, the entire series pretty much depicted all the characters the way they were depicted in the Silver Age.
I like how Bales voice changed over the movies it became more animalistic overtime like he was losing more of himself the longer he was Batman.
I thought he just had throat cancer.
Yeah but it does sound pretty ridiculous.
He was the best
that makes no sense though. Bales batman retires at the end of dark knight for 8 years, he wasn't losing more of himself cause he was barely even active as batman. Pattinson portrayed a better version of losing himself to batman
Michel Keaton's Batman rule
Y'all out your minds... Micheal Keaton is the one true Batman. Nobody embodied the character so well that they were hated for putting down the role except Micheal Keaton. His Batman and Bruce .. were 100 on everything of the character.
And he did detective work with Joker’s toxin in Batman 1989 what’s he on about?
Fact man! I agree 💯. Keaton is the best comic version of Batman.
While Bale is generally the most beloved Batman to the oublic as well as the most reality-grounded, I think Ben Affleck is more faithful to the character in the comics. He also does some great detective work which is essential to his character.
And the one real scene we got with him destroying thugs and saving Martha was by far the best Batman choreo we’ve seen in the films.
My main complaint about Batfleck was for the worlds greatest detective, it took him way too long to realize he was being played.
I didn't think bale was a good batman at all and I absolutely hated his bat voice it seemed like he was trying too hard. Affleck was the total package, as both batman and Bruce Wayne he seemed the most authentic compared to the comics and he even had the perfect build for it.
He kills, how can he be the most accurate?
Yes a murderous psychopath is the most faithful to the comics? lol
You haven't read a single comic.
*Hot take:* Adam West was the most comic-accurate Batman, considering the comics his version was based on.
Not a hot take at all, This is objectively true, and whoever says otherwise don't understand the history of Batman over the years.
I was going to say this. They're comparing West to a version of Batman that was popular much later!
I agree, even the moder comics of Batman arent accurate with 80's Batman comics, much less with 60's era
Easily the most accurate.
Facts!!!!
“I guess George Clooney”😂😂
You forgot Lewis Wilson from the 1940’s Batman. And don’t Forget David Mazouz from the most underrated Batman esk show Gotham. Loved seeing young Bruce developing into the dark knight. While the finale left something to be desired and we did see a little of Batman, it was an excellent portrayal of Bruce Wayne.
I think Pattinson has the potential to be the most accurate. If the next movie focusses on him adapting the playboy persona, while also growing as Batman, he might just become the closest to the comics.
Yeah I do agree and Matt reeves did say for the Batman that Bruce is solely focusing on being Batman he doesn’t know that he needs to play the part of the billionaire just yet and as you said I think the next film will focus on what he needs to do when he’s Bruce.
for now, he's actually the most balanced Batman/Bruce Wayne. I really love Christian Bale's Bruce Wayne that's the best Bruce Wayne portrayal. a dumb, kind of a dick sometimes, innocent, goofy, womanizer. he's portraying that fake Bruce Wayne persona a lot of times in front of people so he won't lose touch on them especially if it is for business so he should act like that. his Batman is nostalgic but it's not great at any means, it's good not gonna lie and like the video said, his Batman isn't intimidating enough. while Batfleck is an absolute walking visage, a 250lbs wrecking ball of destruction inflicting pain and fear into criminals' heart, he moves like Arkham Video Game Batman. but I don't like Affleck's Bruce Wayne at all, I think he's too timid for a Bruce Wayne.
Pat Bat could’ve shown us more of his fighting skills. Didn’t see enough of that.
I think his Batman goes great in the Joaquin joker universe. I was so hoping it was Joaquin in the cell at the end of The Batman
his was the most boringgggggggggg
Ben has the looks, Bale has Bruce down pat
however I think rob captured batman the best, the suit is good, his mannerisms, ethics, morals etc. I even love how he almost doesn't move like a human, he way he stands and stares uncomfortably, moves like an animal, I think hes just perfect. I also think the point of his trilogy is to see how Bruce changes over time, and him realizing that he also has a role to play as Bruce Wayne that being said I think his Bruce is accurate for his early years.
well said
he's staring at everything menacingly due to his contact lens that serves as a recorder for him lol. he's not gonna stare at everything like that if it is not for his contact lens.
Seeing how Bruce Wayne & Superman are almost identical looking in the comics, Bstfleck brought a nuance & gravitas.
Wait a second...Michael Keaton Batman did detective work, but very subtle when he said lets do some grocery shopping Alfred where he found the solution to the Joker's Smiley, the only inaccurate thing is that he kills like the Batflex Batman.
Keyton is my personal favourite, but in portrayal I like Aflecks. He was clearly going for Frank Millers version, (but a lot of Bats v Supes was lifted from Millers Dark Knight mini-series/graphic novel) and I think his more jaded version fitted Millers vision of an older Bruce perhaps more than other comic writers of Bruce Wayne.
After seeing the flash, I Am reaffirmed that Michael Keaton is the best Batman. He is probably the only person who could play the character in his late 60s and did not matter at all.
Surprised he was 71
hands down..
I agree
@@jesseasner7330 he was 69 during filming, but he was so bada$$
Bale is the best Bruce Wayne by far, but Pattinson is the best Batman as alter ego. Affleck's fight when he's rescuing Superman's mom is overall the best, most accurate fight.
I thought Kilmer’s Bruce Wayne was excellent. He didn’t capture the nutball aspect of Wayne’s personality and inner-turmoil as well as Bake’s version did, but he did capture the business mogul/playboy aspect better than the others did without it being written into the script (see Bake’s version).
I agree for the most part. I think Pattinson is very underrated as Batman. I also predict that his Bruce Wayne will evolve over the next movie or two to become more of the outgoing billionaire we usually think of
AFFLECK IS THE BEST BRUCE WAYNE
Imagine Bad Man voice: WHEREEEE ARE THEEEEEY 😂😂
I aint never seen Christian Bale like that i my life
Keaton was the best and most accurate one to me. It’s not just the big stuff but all the subtleties …the way he moves…his demeanor ..etc. But I also can say that each actor has moments where I was particularly impressed with the comic book accuracy. Bale’s “swear to me!!” intensity in that scene is perfection ..the look…everything about it. Affleck’s warehouse scene is absolutely epic.
Keaton = vigilant, merciless, precise.
Kilmer = intelligent, adaptive,
Clooney = empathic, competent, resourceful.
Bale = elusive, strategic, symbolic.
Affleck = lethal, tactical,ferocious.
Pattison = stoic, abrasive, methodical.
I conquer brother! With everything you said, Afflecks warehouse scene... I Can watch 10000 times and never get board! But Keaton my favorite.
Lol no
Come on, let's get nuts! 🤣🤣
He kills, so no. It’s Bale.
Realistically, Adam Wests Batman might be the most comic accurate considering the comics that were coming out at the time. Also the New 52 series, Batman '66 continues that shows vibe in the comics
No. He is absolutely NOT.
No. He may have represented the Batman of the late 50s and early 60s but before the TV show came out the comics were already moving darker more like the original late 30s early 40s Batman.
Not true. The comics started copying the show because that's not how Batman was originally written.
Lmao what the fuck are you on
I couldn't care less about accuracy, but Adam West is by far the best Batman for so many reasons, although Tim Burton movies also have their charm and adapted that dark and broody tone of Alan Moore and Frank Miller without being ridiculous. And by ridiculous I mean taking a live-action grown man dressed as a giant mammal seriously.
Christian Bale is the best representation of batman since it shows the begining and the end of batman
Adam West portrayed Batman EXACTLY as he was in the comics of the time. Gold and Silver Age superhero comics were written for children, and the 1966 TV writers constantly lifted scripts directly from the comics
Michael Keaton and Ben Affleck nailed the role physically and characteristically. Both portrayals are most accurate to the source material. Both personified the character and brought nuance, added depth, complex layers to batman. Also Kevin Conroy is an honourable mention. His voice alone encapsulates the essence of batman at his core.
Disagree, having been a comic book nerd since I was 14. I haven't seen anything in Affleck and Keatons performance that is accurate to its comic counterpart. I found Afflecks portrayal more influenced by the Arkham games then anything in the comics. And ive read kings run, Dixons run, Snyders run, Tynions run, Morrisons run, Johns run, Millers run and i dont see any Affleck there whatsoever. The person that I believe is most accurate to the comics is Pattinson and Kilmer.
They both kill, so no. It’s Bale.
@@dutchschultznyc4423bale also killed in the third movie where he shot the driver of the truck🤷🏻♂️
@@aniqmatin what truck?
@@dutchschultznyc4423 Go watch 'Dark Knight Rises' at 2:27:00, he shoot down a truck and killed the driver.
I'm not saying Bale was shit or anything but you said you don't like Batfleck cause he killed but Bale did the same thing. In terms of how Batman should feel, batfleck is the closest to being the most scariest and terrifying. I also did not like when batfleck killed but Synder was trying to depict an older batman who has abandon his code after going through so much shit like losing a Robin. I wish Snyder would had make that more obvious to the audience cause he only tease it like showing a robin cistume in the background. I feel if Synder showed more obivouse of what shit Batfleck has went through, like it would make sense on why he was killing criminals. Just my opinion🤷♂
Something I think that is often overlooked with Clooney's Batman portrayal is that he seems to choose the different approach to the Wayne portrayal more in the sense of how some with ptsd cope. Some people often reach a point of emotional numbness that they do tend to come off as clownish or insincere when discussing tough topics because it's not new to them and they're numb to the pain, and often death, topics that Bruce Wayne must endure. I think his Wayne impression is underrated because of that aspect because it requires that deeper level of perspective to notice. Clooney is far from my favorite portrayal, but I think the Clooney slander is often misplaced.
I think his Bruce Wayne persona is one of the all time best. More like a mild-mannered billionaire playboy less like a broken man masquerading as gentleman.
Clooney was like an older, experienced Bruce Wayne. I think he and Bale had the best portrayals of Bruce Wayne.
He actually reminded me of BAS/JLU Batman. That Batman was so stoic and in control of himself and would at times speak of incredibly emotional things monotonely, however underneath you could tell he does feel, he just doesn't let it out and always has a "mask" on and really tries to be in overwhelming control of himself at all times. In JLU you can tell that that version of Batman has learned to channel his emotion into fuel for his unwavering dedication to "working", that's where the outlet is for all of it, obsessive non-stop dedicated 24/7 work.
I got that impression too. When he explained Alfred's illness to Robin, he couldn't emotionally accept it himself. I never got the impression that he didn't care. If anything he was guarded and hiding behind humor--even as Batman.
His Batman was alright, but his Bruce Wayne is shockingly good. Batman and Robin isn't perfect, yes, but there's a lot of good in that movie.
The thing about The Batman that many people overlook is that Bruce is still training himself, in every way he needs to train himself. Meaning he is Also still building himself up physically, which, in the real world, doesn't just happen in a year or two, ask any bodybuilder. I'm almost positive that Pattinson is gonna be "broader" in the second movies, thus showing progress.
Also, he will start to act and look more like a cocky billionaire as a cover. Bruce just didn't care about anything but fighting crime in the first movie, including his looks.
Pattinson's hair cut in The Batman was a fukcing disgrace 🤦♂️
We were robbed of Bens Batman, he really does it for me.
Michael Keaton really portrayed the craziness and obsession of Batman.
Keaton was so good.....they brought him back. But, I liked Ben's version of Batman the best, Keaton next, Pattinson and Bale are tied....for my opinion.
4:23 - Keaton's Bat-Man did detective work - he solved the Smilex combinations, working out which compounds in which cosmetic and household products would create the lethal agent 🃏
Best: Kevin Connroy
Best live action: Batfleck
Also note that Kevin also stated his favorite and best was Ben's version.
I really support what you came up with in the conclusion, but I’ll add two more Batman characteristics:
1. Being smart - Ben Afflec
2. Being dark - Robert Pattinson
Thanks for the props in Kilmer’s direction…I’ve always enjoyed the nuances and subtleties of his performance, both as Bruce and bats.
Came here to say the same thing. I've always found his performance underrated and overlooked!
Have you seen The Ghost and the Darkness?
@@ericekstrand1983 ,
The lion film? I have. The Edge on steroids.
I was gonna say Kevin Conroy is the best. There isn't even competition, he is Batman.
When you say who is the best, what you really mean is who's the most like him.
But then you stated that's what you were comparing too. You did the right thing, you compared them to perfection.
Kevin Conroy will always and forever be the best.
I like to imagine Batfleck as Flashpoint Batman rather than normal Batman
personally, i think the batfleck's only reason of being so scary is bcs all of his scenes have a weird -200 exposure tint, that, and the fact that he kills
The creator of Batman stated that Val Kilmer from 1995s “Batman Forever” had the best portrayal of Batman. I couldn’t agree more.
Agreed.
I thought he said Val Kilmer was what he thought of as the perfect Bruce Wayne? Not batman. I will say Val Kilmer is highly underrated.
I’ve been a Batman fan my entire life. I think you have to look at where Batman is in his career. Pattinson is a Year 2 Batman and quite exceptional. Bale did a great job, but as a “seasoned” Batman he wasn’t imposing. Aflec was spot on as Batman for the story he was in. But Michael Keaton is MY favorite Batman of all time. He was dark and a little crazy and could be scary. Especially in the first movie.
Also you have to figure out which comic version you are comparing to. 60's comics were very different to the 70's and the 80's were different to the 70's etc etc. Batman in the comics changes to reflect the times they are in so "Comic accurate" isn't really possible
@@LanceGoodman Very well put! Also, not to mention all the different universes and worlds of Batmen we've encountered.. I think that's where people get stuck and assume there is one persona and set of rules for Batman.
@@hogscattle7877 thanks. And you're absolutely right. Red rain Batman (I think that's the title.. The one where he becomes a vampire) is a very different one to Batman from the dark night returns. Batman in the original comics was more than happy to gun down the bad guys.
Simply put, there is no "accurate" Batman really as each writer and artist puts their own spin on him.
This goes for pretty much all comics, and all media that is created over multiple generations to be fair.
@@LanceGoodman bloodlines batman was just...... brutal.
Keaton is still the best by far.
Adam West was actually a very accurate portrayal of Batman as he existed during the Silver Age. That squeaky-clean time when the Justice League was holding bake sales and stuff.
We're trying to forget that era... which should be easy considering all the drugs being done at the time but here we are.
Totally agree with you.
Best Batman: Affleck
Best Bruce: Bale
Spot on!
Ben Affleck's Batman+ Christian Bale's Batman= Perfect Batman
i would put keaton aswell
You only need Conroy.
Ben played Batman by far the best. One thing you forgot to say was that he also did way more detective work.
Meh he looked the part i guess
I’m a huge Batman fan so I thought about this topic long and probably more thoroughly than I ever have. But that said I’m loyal to the character and the mythology first. I was four years old when I sat in a theater for my first movie and saw Batman 1989. Michael Keaton was my foray into the character besides brief reruns of the 60 series and super friends before that, which I’m barely old enough to remember, but have vague imagery from. I have thoroughly analyzed each actors performance, and the written portrayal and the accuracy. This is my rankings definitively … and I hold no bias because Keaton was my favorite Batman, and my first. I loved Batman Forever when it came out, at the prefect age of 10 years old. Liked Kilmer at the time. Christian Bale was the foundation for up until recently by far the best films about the character that I watched filmed in my early adulthood. But now:
1) Pattinson - 100%
2) Keaton - 85%
3) Bale - 83%
4) Affleck - 63%
5) Kilmer - 60%
6) Clooney - 30%
Keaton USED to be the best Batman. Even though he’s 5’9 he gave the most intimidating performance in costume. Christian Bale WAS the best Bruce Wayne. More so excelled exclusively at the douche playboy facade. But I digress.
In terms of performance however, Robert Pattinson gives by far the best one as the character, and has the most amount of screen time in just one film out of all of the actors combined, seeing as it’s the first movie truly about the main protagonist in the entire franchise, his performance is incredibly nuanced and the writing is the most accurate to modern Batman than any of the other actors. Keaton’s was golden age. Kilmer and Clooney silver age. Bale was the bronze age and too compartmentalized and James Bondy. Affleck was TDKR specifically in BvS and he gives a good performance in BvS but isn’t the main focus and the accuracy and portrayal is horribly warped to make the plot work. And then Josstice League he’s trash and Snyder Cut he’s forgettable and who knows what he or the writing team was going for. If I was breaking down each individual performance but excluding him when he’s a total side character or cameo like Suicide Squad, and Flash
Pattinson in TB: 10 / 10
Keaton in 89: 9.5 / 10
Bale in BB: 9 / 10
Bale in TDK: 8.5 / 10
Affleck in BvS: 8 / 10
Keaton in BR: 7.5 / 10
Bale in TDKR: 7.5 / 10
Kilmer in BF: 6 / 10
Affleck in SC: 6 / 10
Affleck in Joss: 5 / 10
Clooney in BnR: 3 / 10
Val Kilmer had the voice, height, frame and intimidation as Batman. And he is S3XY as Bruce Wayne the billionaire playboy.
I’m torn between Bale, Afleck and Pattinson. If we could squeeze them all into one we’d have a perfect Batman. Although I personally think a stand alone with Afleck would be absolutely amazing. He just fits the role of the Arkham games that I’ve loved and imo his ferocity as Batman is what made the cut for me. I also liked his portrayal of Bruce. I mean, he’s been at this for 20 years, and idk about you but at 45-50 yo no matter what my social status I doubt I’d be the charming cute playboy type after all of those years in the cape. Just my two cents on it.
Kevin Conroy is the perfect batman. But too bad the video only limit it to the big screen. It's such a shame Kevin never got a cameo appearance in any of the Batman movies.
Why do people always overlook when Keaton had to collect and analyze all of the various makeup samples and formulas to figure out how the Joker was poisoning everyone? That is legitimate detective work.
That wasnt the only time either.
We only saw the end results, not him actually doing the detective work. There was a crisis and Keatons Batman pulled an ace out of nowhere to solve it. For all we know, he could have had the Adamn Wests Bat Computer that printed out the solution for him. 😛
He also did detective work on the Penguin
He's a guy who dresses in a dark costume and beats the jesus out of people. This is literally his character.
Neil Adams -- the artist who is responsible for resurrecting Batman in the comics. Unheralded and largely forgotten outside of the circles of comic fandom.
Finally!!! I've been saying this for years as a " True Believer!" So many of the reviewers don't remember(Or Know!) the cannon. i do. Bravo!