Film Theory: END the Avatar Cycle! (Avatar the Last Airbender)

I came here for to say this.

Same :(

Yep

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I'm gonna cry!

Yes, a HUMAN having to play god over other humans..and we know how humanity is. There will be flaws and rebellion no matter what. Not everyone will be happy with something in order. And every avatar was a different person with different beliefs and priorities within themselves. This whole video just really highlights it.

It's kind of a reflection on the legal system and how it law has its consequences 🤔

Yeah

I think the "failures" aren't failures, at least as presented.
Life is always at flux. It's not the job of the Avatar to stop life from happening. The Avatar is a power of good that applies themself to where they are needed the most - whether it's with upset spirits or power-hungry humans.
How is the Avatar supposed to ensure no human will ever again attempt to gain power? By lobotomizing every human?
No, they work to stop that individual, but that means they have already "failed" because what happened, happened already, and there's now a war going on.

I agree. And yea, they made mistakes, but if they weren't there, would it really be that much better? It's hard to say. You can't really say that it's a bad cycle when this might be the better timeline compared to one without an Avatar

fr, maybe he will return after 100 years? 🫠

maybe he is the last style theory bender@@andyseasOandyplay017

fr

So true

Fr

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Indeed T_T

coulda used irohnic

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But everything changed when the film theory attacked

Isn’t the fourth channel gtlive

@@childsworstnightmare8131 no

It's coming this month I'm pretty sure actually

Anime Theory or Music Theory will be perfect

i think the 4th channel is the air theorist

That's true for a lot of Avatars, it's a known thing that Avatar companions become some of the most powerful people of that time along with the Avatar. I know from the books that Kyoshi and Kuruk at least had extremely capable companions that helped them out. Yangchen probably had the least aid from what we saw but even she would've been screwed without help

Each of his friends became highly respected international leaders and the most powerful benders in the world
False. Sokka was aangs friend, but was not a bender
Yes, I like to nitpick

Befriending world leaders / having friends to monopolise the thrones would be the right choice no?

In a way, the same thing can be said about Korra's success as the Avatar as well. Given how like with Aangs friends, her friends also showed the same type of determination to stand by her whenever she needed it the most.

@@edwardaucay8597 and we clearly know how roku had bad history about friendship💀💀 that was the cause of a 100 year war lmao

Fr 😭

Fr.

thats what im saying

Fr

Lol

One could say that was the main point of The Legend Of Korra (along with the unconfortable but necessary aesop "In the right circunstances, good causes can and will be highjacked by bad actors")

One nation can basically kidnap and reprogramm avatar to conquer the world

But that’s the problem. Why should one human have all that power?

Yangchen even made a point about how that was an important component to the avatar.

which makes for a _divine premise._ great power with great responsibility, being under the immense weight of expectations...chosen ones are a classic trope for a reason

Agreed!

You passed your 3rd grade fsa 😎

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And it sucks a spirit killed his wife too

@@notanguished SCREW THE CHINESE SCAMMER'S WIFI LFGGGGGGGGGG

Now I hope for the next one is to bring back the Avatar connections and see what kind of mistake said Avatar will make for the next.

Slightly messed up to say it's aangs fault all the airbenders died but fair

@@rex2546wasn't my intent, i won't think it's aang's fault. i was more meaning that the next fixing a major problem the previous had

@@rex2546nah it was all roku’s fault

And after the last avatar was killed. Another avatar was not found for 100 years.

Anime protagonist tropes in a nutshell

Friendship is magic

They have to make a point.

There a bot among us.

@@myleswelnetz6700 And your reasoning for a bot?

Well, no,... she aint, it'd be better if everyone start developing from the sheep mentality of "this person can do it all so I'll relax"
Even in reality we have that, only difference is, we dont have an avatar, just bish a$$ governments

@@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman
The fact that the government is still as bad as the avatars says alot.

Dilemma?! There is no dilemma in the legend of Korra 🤗 There was a lot of bad writting and a total lack of a plan in a product that was produced probably to fast.
And for the record is not like the last season and the ending of the original series was thaaaat great. I get it I loved the show too 🥲 but you are trying to explain in a conboluted way things that dont really have a good explanation beacuse... They are just incoherent due to bad writing. They messed up.
Not that uncommon in the show bussines then or now.

Its funny how opposite Aang and Korra are, Aang didnt want to be the avatar in a world that needed one, while Korra wanted to be the avatar in a world that didnt need one. Makes me wonder how the avatar after Korra will fare, considering the more modernized the world becomes the less it needs an avatar

@@GreyAres sure, TLoK doesnt match up to ATLA but it is definitely not badly written (not counting season 2 though, that season sucked). Almost all the problems in the show are caused in some way due to Korra (as said in the video). Vaatu, Zaheer, Kuvira are all directly or indirectly due to Korra, making the viewer think about the absolute necessity of the avatar. ATLA showed Aang saving the world placing that idea of need in the viewers head, while TLoK flips that on its head and shows the viewer how the avatar caused a lot of major issues in the world, this is even directly referenced to in the clipshow episode in season 4. The dilemma the show gives to the viewer is precisely why this video was made in the first place, is the avatar truly a necessity?

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Also you can see that avatars' success hugely depends on his upbrining conditions. The mentorship of airbending monks allowed Aang to reveal his potential in his early years and become wise beyond his age. But also the attitude of his contemporaries alongside with the monks overseeing his individual problems led to Aangs' emotional breakdown and to his flight from the temple.
The air nomads were also notable for traveling around the world constantly (hence the name), and that had allowed Aang to create bonds around different countries, which helped him even a century later (acquaintance and old friendship with king Bumi, knowledge of the fire nation traditions, etcetera). So, you can say that even without 100 year ice imprisonement and war Aang would still be able to create strong bonds with various people and become a great avatar. And monk spiritual training is also essential to avatar. So I would suggest entrusting every avatar to the air nomads first as soon as his/hers identity is revealed.
It contrasts a lot with Roku's training, who was probably living for many year in separate areas. Also I think that 20-30 year period, while the young avatar is growing/learning, creates a big power vacuum, which is very bad for the whole idea of maitaining balance in the world.

Reading your comment felt like a speech on why we should have allies or at least see it through the lens of others cuz the different things they experienced and what they can bring to make not only you but the world whole

Indeed, and that makes her unfit to deal with the problems she was facing during the entirety of LoK. How are you supposed to solve the Equalists problems? How does she even know that converging the spirits to human worlds would bring this much chaos? How would she handle with the fact that the existence of avatars, and subsequently her entire identity is the reason why the world is imbalanced and how was she supposed to handle Kuvira when she can't even handle her internal demons?
Avatars are humans too. Even with the power of a god. They cannot solve everything.
Which is why I find LOK to be brilliant and albeit not on par. Is close to AtLA. And before people say AtLA is superior to LOK. Keep in mind that AtLA is so good that comparing it to the likes of Breaking Bad is blasphemy. Because AtLA is THAT GOOD.

To be fair, she grew up in an isolated village learning about how Aang and his predecessors saved the world. About how the Avatar is the key to everything. Aang *wanted* Korra to be fed this information.
Then when Korra enters the real world, the world has already moved on. The Avatar isn’t really needed as much because technology has compensated for a lot of what the Avatar does.
Korra talks about how she’s the Avatar a lot because she’s compensating for her role being lost.

@@zurielschubert9410 No doubt almost all Korra's failures are a result of her being way too young for the job. It does not help that she is only one human even more so than some other Avatar. She was unable to contact her past lives for much needed advice for quite some time. Shortly after gaining this ability, she lost it.
Now Aang was young too, younger, and it's worth noting that if he wasn't then maybe the whole 100 years lost thing wasn't necessary, but he was at least mature for his age and able to contact past Avatars for advice.

@@craigyeah1052 because he's a monk. Not just any monk, a prodigy and he trained under a wise and lighthearted Monk Gyatso. He's wise because that's the culture and tradition of being an Air Nomad.
Korra is the closest thing we had to a modern Avatar. And what makes it worst is by giving her everything she needs to become a good avatar physically. The first friends she made in her entire life was with Kai and Bolin. She was trained in her homelands as she is under the wings of the greatest benders at their time. So she doesn't explore much.

@@zurielschubert9410I completely agree with you. Korra had to deal with so much and most of it she did it alone in a way no other avatar before her was.
She never had a clear road to follow and forced to make many impossible decisions. How would she have known that leaving open the spirit portal would create the world’s deadliest air bender?
How would she have known that Kuvira would become a militant dictator while she recovered from almost dying due to mercury poisoning?
All this while being a teenager and young adult in season 4, for someone who wasn’t allowed to have a childhood and have friends until she ran away.

Yess😭😭😭

Wath the Avatar need to do is to;
Teach all nations how to teach how to create spiritual connections by meditation for them to discover the unmaterial world before the death time
And to put them to work togeder having care by a full of fruits and veggies and plants for a full "year" by seeding, growing and not the last cooking a meal at the end with the nectar from the fruits;
Only the morons would not apreciate the peace; IT is sufficient fur evwrybody and IT always was and IT will Be;
You only eat with one mouth, so do your parents, your kids, your grandkinds, but also IT is the same for your neightbor, your friend, your teacher, the firefighter, the priest, the homeless, the CEO, the baseball player, the soccer player, the medics, sooo on;
You can Be the humanity saviors, but IT starts with stop focusing on distractions crated by so called ekites or news, re conquer your mind and your self; I am out

I don't think it's a one-size-fits-all model 🤔 We'll have to see what the next Avatar brings 🤞

@@cyrileo I can't wait to see the challenges the new Earth Avatar has to deal with.

After the series ends, aang actually does quite a bit in the spirit world

I mean, thousands of years and to this day we don't have an answer for every problem, and we don't even have powers. It makes sense that all Avatars are actually not perfect beings, but humans that carry a mission that's, in all honesty, impossible, yet they do what they feel is the best. Kinda insane how realistic it is.

really shows how much everyone involved in the avatar universe are really passionate about making it one of the best fictional universes out there

Wath the Avatar need to do is to;
Teach all nations how to teach how to create spiritual connections by meditation for them to discover the unmaterial world before the death time
And to put them to work togeder having care by a full of fruits and veggies and plants for a full "year" by seeding, growing and not the last cooking a meal at the end with the nectar from the fruits;
Only the morons would not apreciate the peace; IT is sufficient fur evwrybody and IT always was and IT will Be;
You only eat with one mouth, so do your parents, your kids, your grandkinds, but also IT is the same for your neightbor, your friend, your teacher, the firefighter, the priest, the homeless, the CEO, the baseball player, the soccer player, the medics, sooo on;
You can Be the humanity saviors, but IT starts with stop focusing on distractions crated by so called ekites or news, re conquer your mind and your self; I am out

@@insecure8926 Wath the Avatar need to do is to;
Teach all nations how to teach how to create spiritual connections by meditation for them to discover the unmaterial world before the death time
And to put them to work togeder having care by a full of fruits and veggies and plants for a full "year" by seeding, growing and not the last cooking a meal at the end with the nectar from the fruits;
Only the morons would not apreciate the peace; IT is sufficient fur evwrybody and IT always was and IT will Be;
You only eat with one mouth, so do your parents, your kids, your grandkinds, but also IT is the same for your neightbor, your friend, your teacher, the firefighter, the priest, the homeless, the CEO, the baseball player, the soccer player, the medics, sooo on;
You can Be the humanity saviors, but IT starts with stop focusing on distractions crated by so called ekites or news, re conquer your mind and your self; I am out

@@kailucasanton3421 Wath the Avatar need to do is to;
Teach all nations how to teach how to create spiritual connections by meditation for them to discover the unmaterial world before the death time
And to put them to work togeder having care by a full of fruits and veggies and plants for a full "year" by seeding, growing and not the last cooking a meal at the end with the nectar from the fruits;
Only the morons would not apreciate the peace; IT is sufficient fur evwrybody and IT always was and IT will Be;
You only eat with one mouth, so do your parents, your kids, your grandkinds, but also IT is the same for your neightbor, your friend, your teacher, the firefighter, the priest, the homeless, the CEO, the baseball player, the soccer player, the medics, sooo on;
You can Be the humanity saviors, but IT starts with stop focusing on distractions crated by so called ekites or news, re conquer your mind and your self; I am out

I know right

​@@edythebeast7087 .

Exactly! Gosh this is the best comment and I'm annoyed Matt Pat didn't say much regarding it

If you have the power to act and do nothing that is still a decisive action. What's the phrase? "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing."

Catastrophic consequences due to inaction - hence, a failure. Or worse, catastrophic consequences because the Avatar acted based on their own limited knowledge and biases, like creating a secret police. The Avatar's effect is that of an absolute monarch dictating over others, it's dependent only on random chance that we won't get one that is incompetent or insane.

What I believe he is saying is that the avatars need to end, but need to be replaced by a system including more than ONE person. He’s saying it never worked so find a new one, not nothing at all.

@@nicholascharles9625 The point of the video (at least according to the title) is to say that the world would have been better without any avatars to begin with. That is just not true, because if they hadn't existed, all the problems that were caused by them not acting on it, would have played out exactly the same AND the problems that they fixed wouldn't be fixed.

Which only supports the theory that they shouldn't have that responsibility put upon them in the first place. Humans can't handle the role and responsibility of a god

@@lilithium3940 so true, so true. Even the Avatar with the best foresight might not be able to see far enough down the road to see the impact of their decisions.

@@lilithium3940absolutely true, it’s brought up in the last airbender that aang can’t finish his training and unlock the complete avatar state because of his monk ties, as an airbender he’s supposed to let go of his earthly needs but as the avatar he needs to care for the earth and protect it

@@lilithium3940 But the Avatars do end up stopping many wars and also if you don't give power to the avatar, people like sozin and qing just become stronger. Even with no avatar we would still end up with horrible dictators.

hello everybody what are your opinions on eggdog?

pretty Shore aangs greatest regret was running away and not being there when the air nomad genocide took place, and korra helped rebuilding the air nomads

Aang's biggest regret was that he ran away from being the Avatar, Korra wanted nothing more than to be the Avatar the moment she knew she was.

Pretty sure Aang was the youngest avatar to master all 4 elements.

@@AdamCharron he didn't master them when he was a child though, he only learned them. He relied on the Avatar state to defeat Ozai in the end, which even then he struggled grasping.

@tjm2218 huh I'm not rly sure, but it could be. Most people I've heard though say that he hadn't mastered it yet, he had only learned them.

Yeah for an Eastern based show, the avatar is very similar to Jesus in that way.

exactly, this is why i found this theory quite one sided xD.

@@jacobmisal470 well minus the amount if times they failed.

@Snarfing Some Avatar humans were also said to have messed up horrendously, and neglect how humanity was worth saving. Nobody wins in any system over time, as shown with this theory

@@sefewet that doesnt change that the avatar system barely works, if you can call that work

Same here, I like how it addresses the fact that no matter how powerful someone is or how amazing their friends are or how great the world is, there will always be conflict and balance is only possible in a virtual sense that yes, balance exists but true balance cannot be achieved

@drunkasaur Obvious bait is obvious.

@drunkasaur I wouldn’t say it’s nonsense because there’s conflict as a result of a broken system. I mean conflict is one of the most important parts of a story.
I’d argue that having characters trying to resolve an inherently conflicted world is a pretty good premise for a story.. and pretty good writing too.

Exactly. People are people. I mean if Jesus couldn't do it

@@Newt2799 Like it's the other way around: conflict must be created for a story, so the Avatar will always have more problems to solve than he/she can handle.

oh yea

It was still pretty worthless. Like, they're right, the Avatar can't bring balance, but killing them doesn't help in any shape or form, it just creates a new power vacuum.

@@bdletoast09 But that also means that having the Avatar around isn't any better in any way. They're just a centralized tool to benefit one institution or another based on the arbitration of one person's biases.

@@sovietcupcakes328 That's what all institutions are. At least with the Avatar, the power is in the hand of someone with the wisdom of thousands of past lives and a bit more insight of what the world needs.

@@bdletoast09 not in the case of korra lol

​@@bdletoast09 That didn't stop catastrophic mistakes after mistakes. The "wisdom" imparted by previous avatars rarely matters in the vast majority of day to day events, let alone larger events where the Avatar ends up only having the effect of an absolute monarchy, and everyone else has to pray the next one isn't incompetent or insane. That's why institutions shouldn't be based on the whims of one dictator or another.

The other thing is … can we really say the Avatar is a chosen one after knowing the origins of Avatar Wan? Wan was not selected to have his power or position. Wan broke the world by stealing freeing Vaatu and what we call the Avatar is the entirely accidental union of Wan/Raava on an eternal quest to redeem Wan’s mistake

@@TheJadedJames honestly being an avatar reminds me of how link and zelda is forever destined to be bounded to the triforce and demise. So yeah i can say they are consider “chosen” ones in a way.
With the avatar needing to so many things to keep the balance while cleaning up the mess the last avatar left is honestly stressful. What is interesting though is how can Aang and Korea do so much with the friends they have but even with the friendship the other avatars had stuff still got messy

Also that "Chosen One" mindset the people of the World of Avatar have can be pretty detrimental. One of the reasons that the world is disarray in Kyoshi's era was due to the fact that it took so long find the next Avatar that some people lost hope and some people thought "this is my time to take control"

If you have to say "As you pointed out...", then it really doesn't need to be said. While the point is evident, and I do agree with it, it's already been said.

That’s why I really enjoyed moments where Tinzin, Korra’s spiritual mentor (because she’d mastered all elements by the end of season 1) told her that the rest of them can handle other problems while she’d delt with a primary threat. Almost all the Avatars before Aang had thought the task of protecting the world and keeping order fell to them alone. But, by journeying across the world, meeting new people and making life-long friends, he’d gained different perspectives, as Iroh had once said, and with their help, created a new form of unified government to keep all kingdoms in check. Though Korra may have done poorly in her duties as Avatar, to be fair, she’d had to deal with so much in such a short time, during a revolutionary time of change for the world. Despite the fact she’d brought the Spirt world and physical world back to unity, there is still the lingering question: could there still be a future in which bending and the old ways are simply forgotten to time? Not even the Avatar can control time, cultures, and ideas.

I mean... Roku did stop Sozin. When he discovered the first colony he confronted Sozin and after he "indecisively" let Sozin live, Sozin stopped. The colony was gone, there was no conflict, no war, nothing until after Roku died. The Fire Nation was still on good terms with the world until the comet arrived and Sozin used it to start the war.

na. he'd get his sister to smack sense into em

Maybe that's why Sokka isn't in LOK 👀

@@DrTimes99 while your argument is sound, there is a huge hole in it: Sozin literally just waited for Roku to be gone to enact his plans. Roku failed to stop him, he just delayed it, and that delay wasn't even that negative impactful; the delay only strengthened the fire nation's army, navy, and air force. The comet was just icing on the cake by that time.

@@itlogmanok6046 is that on Roku or the inherent limitations of the Avatar cycle? Sozin & the Fire Nation are based on Imperial Japan's Meji Restoration period; their colonialism wasn't the fanaticism of one man, it was a much broader socio-economic movement. Say Roku does "end" Sozin after the first colony; either he'll need to full genocide-run the ruling elite of his own nation or Sozin's successor just waits out Roku's death to do exactly what Sozin did.

It would be interesting to see how the reappearance of the Air Nation influences the geopolitical scenario if we ever get a series post-Korra. Like, how would pro-bending accomodate to airbenders?

@@omarrodrigomanzanares7474 havent you seen the video yet, he lituraly Stated that were getting a Series after Korra in a few years.

@@omarrodrigomanzanares7474they didn’t cover it in the comic books?

In korra’s further defense, it’s not her fault that the nations fell out of balance as she was recovering. The nations kept peace for the 15~17 years she was growing up and training perfectly fine without an avatar, so they should’ve been able to maintain peace while korra was recovering.

It's hard to say what the ramifications of Korra's decisions are though after such a short time having passed, since it impacts the next 10,000 years. We saw how the spirits terrorized humans in _their own_ world (the spirit world was always a separate place) and kept them confined to the lion turtles who sheltered them. That decision wasn't made lightly by Wan and we can see just how powerful and cruel spirits can be when they want to.

and even when aang beat ozai, they still needed a fire lord and would have been an issue if zuko didnt change sides.
Aang plan was literally beat ozai war over.

thats not true at all, in kyoshi she made a point she couldn't just step into the firenation and fix all their problems it had to be at most a partnership, and aang during the invasion tried to team up with the earth kingdom and the foggy swamp tribe to win the war, another example of this is the earth kingdom war in republic city Korra tried to gets the firenation and earth nation rulers to do the fighting

@@LaptapGamer I mean sure the avatar has certainly tried to do that, but they haven't actually been all the successful.

You are being too generous in your statement. Matt didn’t just “didn’t really look at”, he failed to connect his arguments with his point. Almost all of his points lead to a conclusion that avatars just didn’t succeed in their responsibilities. They did nothing. And doing nothing is very different from making it worse. Without avatars the world wouldn’t even have as little as avatars manage to accomplish. So, the only point that would give all these arguments power, the connective tissue for all of Matt’s arguments - is what you pointed out. The reliance on avatars. And, I might be wrong, but I don’t really remember it being shown in the show. It could be, but I would beed proof. You know, maybe a part of the video dedicated to proving the world actually neglectfully relied on an avatar and that led to some wrong decisions… idk

Another good point.

True but u could argue that he should have known his friend better

@@eghoseisiramen1892 would you see the worst in your friend just off the bat? a person could be a really good friend to you and people around you, but be a crappy person outside of this circle. we’re not all-seeing. we’re human.

@@amorfatikhb Lol, he literally invaded the Earth kingdom... And you even could argue the only reason he exterminated the air nomads was to get rid of the guy that shamed him, neglected him, destroyed his dream left him in the rain his friend...
If, Rooku had helped him or at least at stayed connected with him or just let him conquer the world. The extermination of the air nomads would never have taken to that extent...

That was honestly the most stupid thing he did why would he risk his life saving a empty island with no lives threatened

Avatar iroh fanfic needs to be a thing

"It is important to take wisdom from different places. If you take it from only one place, it becomes rigid and stale." That's my favorite Iroh quote

Forgot about how Iroh taught Zuko air bending technique too. The breathing he was telling zuko about at the north pole invasion is an Airbending technique that you can see Anng uses constantly. Notice how no matter the temperature Anng wears the EXACT same outfit (until book 3) even in the north pole. He's not bothered because he bends the air constantly to keep himself warm. Zuko proves this isn't common among fire bender in the boiling rock when any other fire bender put in the cooler can't bend, but he can and does to keep warm.

The Varic manage to weaponize spirit vines within years means the destructive consequences of her actions are already stirring

That literally means the face stealer is walking around in the real world somewhere… yikes 😭😭

@@richrobin7070 exactly, imagine all the messes the new avatar has to deal with after Korra's reign

I was pleasently surprised that he harped on Korra as much as she did. None of her big decisions seemed thought out at all.

@@fcasias7 I am not looking forward to the poor Avatar who has to clean up her mess. Especially with how her poorly thought decisions will end up snowballing into a horrible disaster

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Lol

I agree with this take more than the rest.

This also makes sense if you LOOK at the Avatar state instead of looking to the novels and stories. Mattpat names, what, six avatars? Look at that crowd. There were certainly dozens of Avatars. The stories we tell are of the ones that were "interesting".
And, it isn't an old chinese curse to live in "interesting times" for nothing.

@@Chaosmancer7 Yeah, stories about peaceful times and how good leaders brought good things are quite boring. "You don't hear about the good people do, but you do hear about their fuckups." -Me.

@@X9Killbot Bruh it comes off as extremely douche-y to quote yourself. At the very least, you can pull an 'As I always say...' instead of trying to sound like Plato.

@@ChargeQM Meh. It's fine.

Why take responsibility? Mf really just subjucated the entire continent he deserves to die in a much more gruesome death🤣

Wath the Avatar need to do is to;
Teach all nations how to teach how to create spiritual connections by meditation for them to discover the unmaterial world before the death time
And to put them to work togeder having care by a full of fruits and veggies and plants for a full "year" by seeding, growing and not the last cooking a meal at the end with the nectar from the fruits;
Only the morons would not apreciate the peace; IT is sufficient fur evwrybody and IT always was and IT will Be;
You only eat with one mouth, so do your parents, your kids, your grandkinds, but also IT is the same for your neightbor, your friend, your teacher, the firefighter, the priest, the homeless, the CEO, the baseball player, the soccer player, the medics, sooo on;
You can Be the humanity saviors, but IT starts with stop focusing on distractions crated by so called ekites or news, re conquer your mind and your self; I am out

Yeah i don't like how he changed shyoki story to fit his theory...

@@bruced.1537 especially with the flash game dialog literally disproving his points, kiyoshi didn't hate the people rebelling, she was upset at how it was being done, she valued the cultural history of the earth nation, and also along with that, they were also destroying the city as well.

the fact that the one time the avatar disappeared was the start of a massive technological and social advancement is proof that the avatar hold the world back. thousands of years and very little change in the world and then after only a hundred years of the avatar being MIA and boom, we now have cars and people are marrying those from outside their birth nations.

@@abiean222 The FireNation was already on the verge of all that, none of the avatars stood in the way of such advancement even indirectly.

@@abiean222 Except that wasn't what happened? If you are talking about the fire nation colonies I am not sure that is a great point to make considering what had to happen before it and it was not a lack of avatar that made that possible, it was the existance of war. Plus people from different nations alredy married between them for generations we see that in the kyoshi novels; sure it happened more by the occupation but it was because of that, an occupation where there were second clas citizens and upper class who where the aggresors.
More tecnológical advancements were made in the time of Aang so that doesn't seem like the avatar is the issue.

True except airbenders could also connect with spirit though not on the same level as the avatar

@@abiean222 nah, without the avatar the fire Nation could go completely unchecked and do whatever they want. Including exploit the other nations for their labor and materials.

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But what if those Avatars started hurting heads? People with vastly different personalities and lives like Aang and Kyoshi likely won’t see eye to eye on how to solve certain issues. And, let’s say there were 4 Avatars alive at the same time, one to tackle each of the 4 duties of the Avatar. What happens when their actions end up affecting the works of the other Avatars? What happens when they reach a disagreement on how to handle something? What if those disagreements turn violent? What will happen to the people who aren’t nearly as strong as them getting caught up in the violence?
Even if the Avatars got along well and had a solid plan to account for as many things as possible, the biggest issue they can’t fully account for is humanity. Someone will always be opposed to how the state of things currently is, and that will lead to them pushing for change. Even if that person gets taken out of the picture, someone will take their place, again and again until a revolution is sparked by their desire for change. No matter how many Avatars there are, they can’t make a “perfect” world without stripping away everyone and every being’s will.

In Hinduism, the avatar is the incarnation of a deity in human or animal form to counteract an evil in the world. In mythology, this mainly refers to the avatars of the God Vishnu. However, there were avatars of other deities as well, but in Avatar we only see the avatars of Raava (and one for Vaatu). What if humans discovered a way to permanently fuse with spirits, and then certain humans merged with the primordial spirits of their world (like Tui and La).

​​@@derekclinton9438e already saw that, in Korra a villane fuses whit the evil spirit and become the dark avatar, no reason we cant have other avtars

@@erenhearthandsherc1481maybe if 4 avatars at the same time come from the same nation e.g if 3 more avatars were with Aang they would have agreed more on things because they understood each other being from the same nation and if one avatar dies they will not reincarnate until the others pass away

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Still waiting for science behind earthbending here

3 isn't an even number we need balance

@@kwayneboy1524 we already have water.

I agree!

Well, there is no gap between them, the next avatar just doesn't know they're the avatar for that long.

@@morganrussman not exactly but it does take them something like 4 years to "test" for the avatar and then as was mentioned, they are not supposed to be introduced to the other elements until they are sixteen because before then, they are a child. Monk Gyatso showed the devastating effects of this: Aang was socially isolated from all of his peers because they thought that his life was unfair to them. He basically lost every friend that he had just by that revelation and he then had adults trying to treat him as a weapon.

​@nathanielbass771 it may take time to test and track down the avatar, but, I do think it was mentioned, or, implied in an episode or 2 that one avatar passes away, and then the next one is born practically immediately after.

@@morganrussman this is true, but if say there are 1,000 children born in a single day... and news can only travel at its fastest in Korra's time via phone and TV... it takes a while

@@morganrussman and also the avitar is like 1

When you really think about the reason why Anng and Korra worked so well was because they learned that one person can't always make a difference that you need to rely on others and have people place there faith in themselves to fix a problem.

if anything the idea is most unfair to the avatar themselves considering the moment your born a spirit decides your life is dedicated to the world and fixing it, if you wanted a normal life too bad you have to fight the firelord on the day of the comet as a 12 year old. Thats definitley the most unfair

I mean, the Avatar's only task is to be a connecting bridge between the human world and the spirit world, that is about it

@@LaptapGamer Just look what it did to Aang. He was told WAY too early, and because of it, he was isolated by his peers and was over-trained by the monks (except Gyatso), leading him to run away.
Luckily for Aang, running away saved his life, but that amount of pressure on a child is AWFUL.

@@oxcare5 You make it sound like that's easy...

But mere presence of a figure like the Avatar already changes how politics works in the world. Sozin for example waited until after Roku's death to start the war. Without Aang the United Republic might never exist. No Szeto and the fFire Nation may never become a unified state. The list goes on, so with no Avatar the entire world would look different politically and culturally.

@@EinstinStinium One can also imagine a world also if the Avatar cycle ended there and then for some contrived reason. It's not like there's just one hypothetical of Avatar never existing in the first place.

Yeah, say what you will about the world Aang built after the war. If Aang had never come back, the Fire Nation would have taken over the entire world. It would be so much worse and there is an extent that you are only free to judge Aang because we never saw that very possible alternate future where Ozai wins

That’s more or less Matpat’s point

And compounding that, there's no guarantee how old they'll be when a crisis arises. Something that an adult could easily handle peacefully could end poorly if it happens while the avatar is 10 or younger.

@@Elleore I saw, I was only halfway through the video or so and the title seemed to imply differently. My bad, I should have watched the whole thing first

Avatar Wan did more or less choose to become the Avatar, so they did all choose this roll in a way whether they realize it or not

Was Aang a bad father?? I never watched The Legend of Korra because it didn't quite grab me like it's predecessor did. But I can understand where you're coming from though. Aang would be so busy trying to set up some kind of new political system for the people among a bunch of other things an Avatar is supposed to do he ends up neglecting time with his kids in turn 😟.

@@TheMeloettaful that was part of it. the other part of it was he felt responsible for bringing back the airbenders so when he had all 3 of his kids he unintentionally played favorites with tenzin. the only airbender at the time. Not to say he was a bad dad but he felt it was necessary to teach tenzin about the culture and bending so the next avatar would have an airbending teacher and 2 so the airbenders could continue through tenzin. Problem was he hyper focused on tenzin and neglected his other 2 kids in some aspects.

@@nicholasduca5221 it also weird he didn't teach his other children about airbending and air nomad culture. Like sure they weren't Airbenders but that doesn't mean they couldn't learn about it and spread that knowledge on themselves. Like we learn he never took kya and bumi to the air temples just tenzin. Which is a little more than neglect. He's deliberately cutting them off from their own history as his children air benders or not they're in some way apart of the air nation and as his descendants its their history as much as it is tenzins

@@nicholascharles9625 yup, all nations had non benders, but those non benders were still part of those nations and it's people.

I mean aang could of been way worse tbh if you really look at it, it's just obviously he would see tenzen as a possible way to kickstart the air nation again which would put a lot of pressure on him and tenzen. And I don't feel that he was as neglectful as people say, I mean his daughter is one of the best water benders as well if I recall and they all seem healthy albeit all up in each other's business but their siblings, of course they would be like that a little.

That was because the war was coming very soon. The Monks knew that Aang needed to train quyickly if they had any chance at stopping the Fire Nation. A bit heavy-handed yes, but they weren’t wrong either.

iirc Yangchen was also told before 16 but for different reasons

@@guccifer764 That's still no excuse and they were going about it all wrong, no wonder Aang ran off. They told a literal child the fate of the world is on his shoulders, that literal child was feeling more and more isolated because his friends didn't want him to join in on games because they were already making unfair assumptions about his abilities, and then the adults wanted to separate Aang presumably without telling him.

I'm more bothered by the fact that the monks, who probably knew Aang pretty well, didn't anticipate that he would try to run away or make any attempts to prevent such a thing from happening. But hey, story's gotta story.

@@staticradio724 They didn't know him well.They made these decisions without the input of and against the wishes of the monk who did know him well. It's like at a school. Not every teacher is going to know every child, even if that child has been there for years - but that child's teacher should know him well.

2 may be the key as 4 may just become a superweapon for each nation, because then they would not be the avatar of the world, they would only be a powerfull bender that only happens once every generation and can commune with the spirits. Basically Setzo but worse since they could be more likely to be used in war.

so basically naruto and other jinchurikies 😄

This would be a fantastic fan fiction idea! Wonder is anyone wrote something similar.

I think it'll lead to more conflict honestly

@@HectorT52 Imagine if they ended up on different sides of a conflict though. Could make things even worse.

Actually it was messing with the Harmonic convergence (Avatar vs. Dark Avatar) what altered the balance of the world and gave people the power to Airbend

also Zaheer was ONE DUDE.
Harmonic convergence saved airbenders from literally becoming extinct

@stevenle9960
No, they were repopulating. It just would have taken them a century or two to get back up in numbers. So long as they keep having more than two kids.

@@angelr194 No, just Harmonic Convergence existing whether or not Raava and Vaatu were involved that triggered the return of Airbenders. Harmonic Convergence is literally the rebirth of the world, and when that phenomenon occurred, it restarted the cycle by providing the world with new Airbenders.

@@stevenle9960 no only that, Korra had no idea Zaheer even existed, nor that he would get Airbending.

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Pretty much true I guess Aang cleaned up the old messes and Korra tied up any of Aang's loose ends which I think were only 3 or 4.

I was just thinking that while watching this. Even if we had perfect avatars, we don't have perfect non-avatar people. If somebody really wanted to start a war, they could just exploit the time it takes for a new avatar to grow up. Some people in-universe even realized this, as Sozin's plan to destroy the nation where the avatar would be born next, while he was still a child, was essentially a version of the same idea, although he probably intended it to be more permanent. But he was dead anyway by the time that Aang returned, so as far as he knows, his plan worked and he got everything he wanted.

Aang even made it worse, what with his hundred year freezer nap leaving the position open.

Its not just great, its the best

Nothing less than a masterpiece.

That intro tho😂😂

@here is the full clip it’s a link to making pizza

It's overrated in my opinion. People claim It's mathematically flawless and the single greatest peice of media ever produced.

the good god is kinda sus tbh

​@@olaf-chan-728 you mean Raava? Elaborate?

That’s right. She save the air benders from going extinct. She definitely had it the hardest tho. I feel like every avatar had one big problem to solve while she had one big problem in like every season and also with like the strongest villains we’ve seen in the avatar universe(Amon, Zaheer). Amon even might be the strongest villains of all time.

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She did that on pure accident. Unalaq was the who got her to open the portals.
She could have easily restored airbending to the world by giving the Air Acolytes airbending via energybending.

@@GreatUniter I totally agree that it was on accident but she and the air nation needed that luck to not go extinct. Now there is a whole new generation of air benders.
I’m not sure if she can give someone bending powers if they didn’t have it before if I’m not mistaken only the giant turtle could do that. But if she is able to do that then yeah that would’ve been the better solution

Actually, closing portals won't take powers from them. So you are not very correct.

@@GreatUniter when was it established that you can give non benders bending??

(my dog is cutting onion for midnight version of lunch, that's why I need to go somewhere else and why I have to cry)