Game Theory: Dear Nintendo, I FIXED Your Timeline! (Zelda)

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    I've been theorizing about Zelda for a LONG time! Since the beginning of Game Theory, I've tried to figure out all the ins and outs; all the ifs and maybes. Today we return to the Zelda timeline because I have finally SOLVED it! I have found the MISSING Link in this whole mess of a timeline that makes everything work! Strap in Theorists, this may be our biggest breakthrough yet!
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  • @TimePavement
    @TimePavement 4 년 전 +30047

    MatPat: "Ruining your childhood since 2011"
    Me: "You are my childhood."

    • @Jlipper
      @Jlipper 4 년 전 +739

      Love him or hate him, he is spitting straight facts.

    • @UnsightlyComplightly
      @UnsightlyComplightly 4 년 전 +229

      SAME even though I didn't know him at the time, apparently my six year old self didn't know what KRplus was

    • @johnyliltoe
      @johnyliltoe 4 년 전 +80

      Oh god, I feel old...

    • @samuelsanders4078
      @samuelsanders4078 4 년 전 +63

      @@Water_Me_Loan_64_YT don't. just don't.

    • @hamzakhurram6028
      @hamzakhurram6028 4 년 전 +7

      ❤️❤️

  • @GameTheory
    @GameTheory  4 년 전 +1557

    Who wants a Game Theory/Unraveled CROSSOVER!?!

  • @shaqjuice420
    @shaqjuice420 4 년 전 +5131

    Link: I've finally killed Ganon once and for all.
    Ganon: Yes you did.
    Link: what
    Ganon: what

    • @vinn8710
      @vinn8710 4 년 전 +39

      lol

    • @angryrat7423
      @angryrat7423 4 년 전 +23

      Hehe

    • @kronker1749
      @kronker1749 4 년 전 +15

      lol

    • @sergevictoryyt
      @sergevictoryyt 4 년 전 +27

      Me: what

    • @shaqjuice420
      @shaqjuice420 4 년 전 +39

      @@shameemkawsar2162 see now if I had said something like this is my original comment I would see why your comment was necessary but people copy and paste all the time lol, does it even really matter? "Stole" lol I stole words

  • @theleviathan3902
    @theleviathan3902 2 년 전 +3643

    Fools, everybody knows that LoZ monopoly is the pin that holds it all together

    • @LegendPoor
      @LegendPoor 2 년 전 +135

      Fool actually its zelda uno

    • @nothingtoseehere5829
      @nothingtoseehere5829 2 년 전 +90

      You are both fools! The official LoZ board game is the glue keeping the timelines together.

    • @Jackbarrany
      @Jackbarrany 2 년 전 +128

      All of you, Fools! It’s the 2002 Zelda Burger king toy that makes sense of everything!

    • @ratgaming5562
      @ratgaming5562 2 년 전 +99

      You’re all fools! It’s Brian David Gilbert

    • @funnyvalentine5638
      @funnyvalentine5638 2 년 전 +26

      How foolish of all you to belive that a random zelda sticker from a dodgey website is the true thing sticking this timeline together!

  • @teukukeanu3078
    @teukukeanu3078 2 년 전 +1994

    Matpat: “on the happier side of the timeline, we have Majora's mask and twilight princess”
    Me: ah, yes. The two most wholesome games in LoZ: MM and TP

  • @maestro0798
    @maestro0798 4 년 전 +1151

    I can almost imagine people at Nintendo going: Hah, didn't think of that... Lets go with that one :')

    • @silenal2885
      @silenal2885 4 년 전 +78

      Nintendo: **releases a new book because of the timeline**

    • @urgae9125
      @urgae9125 4 년 전 +16

      You know Nintendo will.
      It’s too easy

    • @amuzarill423
      @amuzarill423 4 년 전 +2

      It's a cool theory but hyrule warriors arent canon.

    • @ninjamage5215
      @ninjamage5215 4 년 전 +8

      Amuzarill Matpat is making the case for Nintendo to make it canon to solve the timeline.... based on the evidence. You missed the point

    • @TheMazrem
      @TheMazrem 4 년 전 +11

      @@amuzarill423 If Link Get's a ChooChoo is cannon, I'm going to say Link and Cia's Excellent Adventure is cannon.

  • @aeinzalot
    @aeinzalot 4 년 전 +4291

    MatPat: I fixed the Zelda timeline!
    Me: *Hey I’ve seen this one before! It’s a classic!*

    • @kyubeyz_7062
      @kyubeyz_7062 4 년 전 +27

      Congrats you’re getting likes by the second

    • @JD-iv9ol
      @JD-iv9ol 4 년 전 +49

      Yeah BDG is the best

    • @TheKpa11
      @TheKpa11 4 년 전 +13

      *raises hand*
      Multiverse

    • @dragonsuper6195
      @dragonsuper6195 4 년 전 +12

      Hey but what about Mat suffering for FNAF

    • @juholempiainen3767
      @juholempiainen3767 4 년 전 +30

      @@kyubeyz_7062 what do you mean you've seen it it's brand new

  • @clplayz6344
    @clplayz6344 5 개월 전 +53

    This fits so well with TOTK. The secret stone ganon steals in TOTK is shown in here during TP.

  • @SugarSpice07
    @SugarSpice07 년 전 +833

    If the timeline changes based on the player's imagination, then my imagination says that Matpat's timeline is the correct one.

    • @MaggieCandy999
      @MaggieCandy999 년 전 +21

      I seconded it! ✋🏻

    • @jakariashafin1695
      @jakariashafin1695 년 전 +11

      I third it.

    • @danielled8665
      @danielled8665 년 전 +20

      That has some horrifying implications for Link and Gannon, given what some fans have created in the fanfiction category.

    • @morthurarrgan
      @morthurarrgan 년 전 +2

      The KRplus channel Zelda Lore made a Zelda Timeline and that’s my new head canon

    • @jakariashafin1695
      @jakariashafin1695 년 전 +1

      @@morthurarrgan interesting I'll probably check it out later.

  • @rowanbyrne6133
    @rowanbyrne6133 4 년 전 +2140

    Looks like Matpat’s not a scholar in Time break studies.
    He forgot about legend of Zelda monopoly.

  • @heliummaster6628
    @heliummaster6628 2 년 전 +474

    he should really come back to this theory, since age of calamity was released.

    • @emeralddragon2980
      @emeralddragon2980 2 년 전 +40

      I don't think it really changes too much from this theory. Yes, AoC makes two new timelines, but they're still after Hyrule Warriors Classic, which is what unite the three original timelines back into one.

    • @ilikefood4482
      @ilikefood4482 년 전 +14

      Maybe he’ll make a new one after Tears of the Kingdom comes out in may

    • @cronkus
      @cronkus 10 개월 전 +7

      @@ilikefood4482 doubt it. Nintendo has been on a war path and with the wellness of a wife, child, and whole company to look after, something tells me it’s not worth the strikes. But who knows, he might. But tears is also being theorized to be the last in the cycle. The 2 theories are the cycle is gonna be reset and everything returns to the sky or the cycle will be broken and Ganondorf fights his calamity self along side link and Zelda. I’m expecting the former, hoping for the latter.

    • @ramonandrajo6348
      @ramonandrajo6348 10 개월 전 +1

      @@emeralddragon2980 True.

  • @Insert_Bland_Name_Here
    @Insert_Bland_Name_Here 2 년 전 +166

    Link's Awakening taking place after the Oracle games makes a lot more sense than placing it before. In the finale of a linked game in the Oracle games, Link sets out to sea. Link's awakening starts out with Link being out at sea, sailing into a storm and getting shipwrecked. They just tie together perfectly this way.

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 년 전 +6

      This is the only thing that makes sense

    • @dranz8125
      @dranz8125 10 개월 전 +8

      It should also be noted that in the original Japanese manual, its stated in Link's Awakening, that Link was returning from his journey of adventure in foreign nations. Like, it came out first, but they set it up perfectly to take place after the oracle games.

  • @TheHuskyK9
    @TheHuskyK9 4 년 전 +848

    Nintendo: "Hyrule Warriors is not canon"
    MatPat: "Yes but actually no."

    • @ShadwSonic
      @ShadwSonic 4 년 전 +17

      Or more accurately, "But thou must!". Ironically, that assertion actually makes me seriously consider getting it, whereas before the different playstyle had me giving it a pass.
      Canon coaxes coin, I suppose.

    • @dwigttaylor3544
      @dwigttaylor3544 4 년 전 +24

      Nintendo: here are the ONLY games that you’re allowed to make a timeline with
      Matpat: but are they?

    • @hakzource8660
      @hakzource8660 4 년 전 +1

      You got the meme wrong, nice

    • @adriannaranjo4397
      @adriannaranjo4397 4 년 전 +2

      *No, but actually yes

    • @averageskeletonremover2415
      @averageskeletonremover2415 4 년 전

      I am the rarest human, for I have played that game AND own a wii u

  • @TodosLocosOfficial
    @TodosLocosOfficial 4 년 전 +864

    How MatPat converged the timelines: Hyrule Warriors
    How Brian David Gilbert converged the timelines: LEGEND OF ZELDA MONOPOLY!

    • @TheFranciscoFm
      @TheFranciscoFm 4 년 전 +47

      You, my friend, are a man of culture

    • @charlottesharp9485
      @charlottesharp9485 4 년 전 +44

      Matpat: Downfall Timeline
      BDG: basketball

    • @zackarieneifert7014
      @zackarieneifert7014 4 년 전 +24

      We don't need the the books to figure out the timeline. Brian David Gilbert did it for us

    • @dandanlec1996
      @dandanlec1996 4 년 전 +6

      I just watche the video, there was monopoly

    • @devcrom3
      @devcrom3 4 년 전 +18

      Link either IS god or can KILL god and I DON'T CARE IF THERE'S A DIFFERENCE!

  • @lordmalachi6
    @lordmalachi6 10 개월 전 +51

    Hoping we get an update to this with Tears of the Kingdom out and involving its shenanigans.

    • @felipefroehnerteixeira4777
      @felipefroehnerteixeira4777 7 개월 전 +1

      Man i hope you arent to upset

    • @Froggycolouring
      @Froggycolouring 7 개월 전 +2

      Well that’s basically just right after botw, since it was gonna be a dlc for it originally and all the characters even remember link from botw, unless they release another game

    • @Totomy2011
      @Totomy2011 3 개월 전 +1

      @@Froggycolouringno but the backstory of totk screws everything up

  • @horaceshear2294
    @horaceshear2294 년 전 +57

    I think you're right on point . This video blew my freaking mind

  • @liammcnicholas918
    @liammcnicholas918 4 년 전 +559

    Nintendo: Hyrule Warriors is a spin-off
    MatPat: Well yes, but actually no

    • @todddempsey1277
      @todddempsey1277 4 년 전 +6

      That's Matpat.

    • @Sebas-bs8uk
      @Sebas-bs8uk 4 년 전 +7

      UNO REVERSE CARD!

    • @SkyShadows-ik5vu
      @SkyShadows-ik5vu 4 년 전 +3

      Yes, just yes

    • @thomaswoloshyn9252
      @thomaswoloshyn9252 4 년 전 +10

      it is a spinoff regardless of this theory. Spinoffs an be canon.

    • @MrShellbuster
      @MrShellbuster 4 년 전 +6

      @@thomaswoloshyn9252 considering it littertily is about a time keeper and merges the time lines at various points of their respective games story... like oot was after the hero of time.

  • @SuperLaluigi
    @SuperLaluigi 4 년 전 +572

    nintendo: It isnt canon.
    game theorists: well no but actually yes.

    • @lilstar4158
      @lilstar4158 4 년 전 +2

      game theory: it wasn't, but we made it :)

    • @greatpeople3574
      @greatpeople3574 4 년 전 +1

      Nintendo: Hyrule warriors isn't cannon
      GT: R U SURE BOUT DAT

    • @bradywanlin7426
      @bradywanlin7426 4 년 전 +3

      It’s not canon, it’s *Ganon*

    • @EggWhisper
      @EggWhisper 4 년 전 +1

      @@bradywanlin7426 LOL Perfectly spicy memes!

  • @synthwolfe8906
    @synthwolfe8906 2 년 전 +25

    Just wanted to mention that the zora are physically far more varied in both color and shape in BOTW than any other single game. As such, it's possible that particular feature could be a hold over from when they were monsters and enemies of hylians.

    • @dafilmqueen556
      @dafilmqueen556 3 개월 전 +1

      Not to mention, in Breath Of The Wild, King Dorephan seems to be non hostile towards Link, but his advisor Muzu (whom I've heard gamer Andrew from The Andrew Collette Show jokingly call Stingray face. I love that guy, a married gamer who happens to be a father and an editor with a sense of humor? A KRplus gamer after my own heart 😂❤) clearly has disdain towards Link as well as untrusting of most Hylians, only relenting to trust Link after Prince Sidon proves that Link's Zora armor was made by Princess Mipha specifically for Link (whom she had an unrequited crush on, poor girl). If that doesn't give an indication that the timeline is mashed up, I don't know what does..

  • @RetroSetJoe
    @RetroSetJoe 2 년 전 +78

    I know it's been like... 2.5 years from when this came out BUT...
    The Zora in the downfall timeline are two separate species: River Zora and Ocean Zora. I want to say it's explained in one of the Oracle games...
    Love what you do Matt!

    • @dablindscooter1973
      @dablindscooter1973 년 전 +2

      it is explained in oracle of ages i was abt to comment this

    • @Phatnaru0002
      @Phatnaru0002 년 전 +6

      The thing is though, Breath of the Wild also canonically features Majora's Mask and the Fierce Deity's Mask, with the power inside them gone. At least so far as we know, this has only ever happened in the child timeline.

  • @corpsekid5951
    @corpsekid5951 4 년 전 +774

    Matpat: I fixed the timeline!!!
    *Brian David Gilbert would like to know your location*

    • @SJohann
      @SJohann 4 년 전 +17

      We need that Game Theory/Polygon crossover.

    • @falpsdsqglthnsac
      @falpsdsqglthnsac 4 년 전 +15

      LoZ Monopoly should be canon.

    • @Joyce-xi1di
      @Joyce-xi1di 4 년 전 +12

      Wheres the basketball timeline??

  • @personalRCH
    @personalRCH 4 년 전 +378

    *One Decade Later.*
    Nintendoes: "Breath of the Wild 2 is actually a prequel."

    • @localcrazyrussian4511
      @localcrazyrussian4511 4 년 전 +24

      Since when was Nintendo jk Rowling?

    • @seishonagon8468
      @seishonagon8468 4 년 전

      @@localcrazyrussian4511 lol

    • @Lahombre
      @Lahombre 4 년 전

      Don’t. You. Dare!

    • @joonwhang185
      @joonwhang185 4 년 전

      Vivaldithe2nd Reptiles and Amphibians Language!

    • @JulesTheSleepyDemon
      @JulesTheSleepyDemon 4 년 전 +1

      The disappointing thing is that it could actually be possible. For all we know, that trailer took place before they discovered everything, before any of the memories in BotW, even.
      I hope it's not, though.

  • @joshuamorton3487
    @joshuamorton3487 2 년 전 +21

    There is actually a lot more evidence that Hyrule was once a great sea in BotW then just rock salt. There are giant skeletons of once ocean dwelling leviathans all over the place.

    • @DesmondDolan
      @DesmondDolan 4 개월 전 +2

      But how do we know they're from the ocean?
      There was also a leviathan of the skies: Levias
      Maybe these same leviathans are the same creatures as him. But when they died, they fell to the surface

  • @boxpin8967
    @boxpin8967 2 년 전 +36

    I like the theory that it has been so long that all of the events in the timelines became an inevitability, and so Breath of the Wild happens in every timeline. It’s possible that Breath of the Wild takes place millions of years after the other games. It is purely speculative tho, so I wouldn’t be surprised if this was easily debunked.

    • @cheesygubbins5322
      @cheesygubbins5322 년 전 +3

      i think the zelda games are just different generations of link, not that the previous link is the father of the next link but a future generation of a green clad blonde haired silent hero.

    • @ramonandrajo6348
      @ramonandrajo6348 10 개월 전 +1

      Nice try, Nintendrone. XD

  • @youngkhan3938
    @youngkhan3938 4 년 전 +872

    "Weve been working on group projects ever since"
    Like creating a child lol congrats matpat

  • @HetIsLennertWeer
    @HetIsLennertWeer 4 년 전 +675

    MatPat: I fixed the Zelda timeline!
    Me: Waiting for a new Zelda game to come out so he can start all over again.

    • @a_cowwithlegs
      @a_cowwithlegs 4 년 전 +9

      Also me: BOTW 2

    • @redwidow1358
      @redwidow1358 4 년 전 +6

      He's already screwed up since Breath of the Wild is at the end, with all three timelines converging onto it, implying that a Breath of the Wild happens in every possible scenario. I'm gonna enjoy watching the next several Zelda theories.

    • @chrisschoenthaler5184
      @chrisschoenthaler5184 4 년 전 +13

      daffy duck How exactly did he “screw up”? This entire video was an explanation of HOW Breath of the Wild could possibly be the culmination of three separate timelines.

    • @UltimateKyuubiFox
      @UltimateKyuubiFox 4 년 전 +8

      daffy duck Your comment does nothing to disprove MatPat’s assertions. You’ve simple stated something he agrees with and then pretended it wasn’t expressly part of his conclusion.

    • @tmmaster6904
      @tmmaster6904 4 년 전 +4

      @@redwidow1358 You sound like the critics reviewing the new Godzilla movie, you said nothing of value and are completely wrong

  • @bunsenn5064
    @bunsenn5064 2 년 전 +56

    Here’s my theory. Nintendo makes references to every timeline of Zelda in the Breath of the Wild game for a reason. Supposedly, the whole timeline takes place over 10,000 years ago, in an era Breath of the Wild calls the “Era of Myth”. It could be said that the reason all these timelines are present is because Breath of the Wild is so far ahead in the future that the earlier entries in the timeline all occur in the Era of Myth, so far in the past that Breath of the Wild practically becomes its own new story. It’s actually something that parallels reality. In the real world, civilizations like the Sumerians and the Mayans who existed thousands of years ago are still left in mystery. To this day, we still haven’t deciphered these civilizations and eras of time. Breath of the Wild may have been designed to be a story where the original legends of Zelda are so old that they’ve been practically forgotten by Hyrule, and a new story of the hero begins, slowly uncovering the mysteries of past civilizations like the Zonai and the ancient tribes. A different approach to an age-old story.

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision 2 년 전 +9

      But that’s not a theory, that’s just exactly what BOTW already says… lol

    • @ramonandrajo6348
      @ramonandrajo6348 10 개월 전

      No, not really.

  • @JMFSpike
    @JMFSpike 2 년 전 +46

    When Nintendo revealed a couple of decades ago that there was a timeline, I think what they meant was that there was "somewhat" of a timeline. Basically, some games are direct sequels and fit together well. Where the "somewhat" comes in is that some games are unrelated to any other game, and in that case Nintendo tries to force a connection. They do that by saying the game takes place many generations after some other game they choose to force a connection to, and also by making up events that supposedly happened in-between the 2 games that there is no game for.
    I believe the above is also what Nintendo has been trying to tell us over the last few years or so, only they're clearly not being as straightforward about it as I was. You said it yourself in the video, that this "we want fans to come up with their own interpretations" thing is being said because they themselves don't really know. They did their best to try and piece it all together in a way that makes sense, but they know it's very imperfect because their main concern has never been the timeline. Sometimes they just want to make a Zelda game, and they probably feel that trying too hard to make it connect to other games restricts them in what they can do creatively.

  • @mooselove
    @mooselove 4 년 전 +172

    Actually... it’s Zelda Monopoly that connects them all.

  • @Miisee
    @Miisee 4 년 전 +337

    Kinda wish BOTW had a human form of Ganon.....wait....
    *remembers BOTW 2 reveal*
    NEVERMIND.

  • @imagomonkei
    @imagomonkei 2 년 전 +40

    Now that AoC is out, this theory grows even stronger. Specifically, the final unlock of the game is the tunic set from HW. That settles it in my mind. I hope the DLC brings back Linkle.

  • @timothyvovakII
    @timothyvovakII 2 개월 전 +6

    "And weve been working on group projects ever since"
    And now your part of your biggest project is coming to a close😭

  • @obi-wank-enobi
    @obi-wank-enobi 4 년 전 +2965

    Matpat: IVE SOLVED THE TIMELINE!!
    Nintendo: He knows too much hit the shuffle button again

    • @insertusernamehere8324
      @insertusernamehere8324 3 년 전 +23

      TRU DAT!!!!

    • @alucozadebottle4423
      @alucozadebottle4423 3 년 전 +81

      I'm about to make you angry
      Read more

    • @obi-wank-enobi
      @obi-wank-enobi 3 년 전 +68

      @@alucozadebottle4423 how dare you post such trickery on my comment I have been trying to press the read more button for the past 5 minutes

    • @s3dsd840
      @s3dsd840 3 년 전 +6

      Playboy Piccolo same 😂

    • @obi-wank-enobi
      @obi-wank-enobi 3 년 전 +5

      Dammit who liked the video unlike it this instant!

  • @adude270
    @adude270 4 년 전 +557

    >Does a zelda timeline theory that works and could be agreed upon everyone to be canon
    >Doesn`t include Zelda Monopoly
    >Understandable Rejection

  • @cobaltprime9467
    @cobaltprime9467 3 개월 전 +4

    This still works with totk. The depths appear to be the remnants of the Great Sea. Judging by some of the plants.

  • @Maddyy320
    @Maddyy320 년 전 +7

    Can’t wait to see how tears of the kingdom changes things when it releases.
    Also it’s funny how they reunited the timelines for ganon to win in the prologue to BOTW and then release age of calamity just to create an alternate timeline where they win before link has to be put in the shrine of resurrection.

  • @shpongled6195
    @shpongled6195 4 년 전 +570

    I think Brian David Gilbert solved this timeline officially, because Monopoly is the most important piece of lore

  • @earthisadonut7213
    @earthisadonut7213 4 년 전 +1699

    MatPat: I SOLVED THE TIMELINE, NINTENDO!
    Nintendo: uhhhh…yeah that's...umm...that's what we were going for

    • @dancalf
      @dancalf 4 년 전 +72

      I really have my hopes up that they will make this change oficial, but yes, they'll probably make a disclaimer that they didn't got the idea from MatPat. Something like "Our creative team came by this idea themselves".

    • @ricardohoang8452
      @ricardohoang8452 4 년 전 +16

      Also Nintendo: Oh you just said #CancelZelda ? Well we will just copyright your video then!

    • @Skypatroller_BenCD
      @Skypatroller_BenCD 4 년 전

      I make this 3 weeks or 1 month before him

    • @mookielagaras9195
      @mookielagaras9195 4 년 전 +1

      BenjaminCD t as fait une vidéo de deux minutes où tu fais que lister des jeux, ya aucune explication à propos des connexions entre eux ou comment ça marche tout ensemble mdrrr

    • @Skypatroller_BenCD
      @Skypatroller_BenCD 4 년 전 +1

      @@mookielagaras9195 cette vidéos c'est la timeline avec Link cartoon l'autre j'ai fait une théorie sur Linkel ou j'avais expliqué ça

  • @petarmarjanovic4607
    @petarmarjanovic4607 2 년 전 +9

    *This damn storyline is more tangled up than my earphone cables after putting them in my pocket*

  • @superpigcat5954
    @superpigcat5954 2 년 전 +13

    I love this franchise and you just made my childhood better!!

  • @Edelsteinsammler
    @Edelsteinsammler 4 년 전 +577

    Matpat: ah yes the first timeline, the downfall timeline
    BDG: SO OVER HERE IN BASKETBALL...

  • @chacrawarrior
    @chacrawarrior 4 년 전 +265

    -Ganandorf: "I'm inevitable"
    -Link: "..."

  • @decaytale
    @decaytale 2 년 전 +46

    I always considered botw to be at the end of whatever timeliness you want it to be. Like, what split do you think is Canon? Okay. Cool. You like the games in a particular timeliness? Nice. Well congrats, this game falls at the end of it. You are continuing whatever timeline you loved the most. Like all of them? Interpret what you like. All that matters is that this continues it all

    • @tori54595
      @tori54595 2 년 전 +4

      Yeah, I think that's what Nintendo was going for mostly. Just a way to continue a timeline (any of the timelines) and to keep the game moving forward instead of having different games for different timelines

  • @keirontt4848
    @keirontt4848 2 년 전 +12

    0:44
    *Well excuUuuUuuUuUuuUuUuuUuuUse me princess*

  • @JACK.Wenzie
    @JACK.Wenzie 4 년 전 +797

    Me: Which timeline is BoTW in?
    Matpat: Yes.

    • @pastorTracy911
      @pastorTracy911 4 년 전 +7

      Thiccman100 and Nintendo:

    • @WiisonicHedgehogGamer
      @WiisonicHedgehogGamer 4 년 전 +4

      BotW is likely the end of all timelines. It is inevitable. Every timeline end with BOTW.

    • @kayarayvn2483
      @kayarayvn2483 4 년 전 +3

      @@WiisonicHedgehogGamer Except that that's not how divergent timelines generally work. Divergent timelines rarely, if ever re-converge into a singular timeline. It would take an incredible level of coincidence and time for three radically different timelines to converge into a single one that makes any semblance of sense with some kind of time travel shenanigans.

    • @gracemcgregor3316
      @gracemcgregor3316 4 년 전 +1

      @@kayarayvn2483 it would need a...
      *T I M E B R E A K*

  • @batmanator101
    @batmanator101 4 년 전 +741

    Nintendo: “Everyone can use their imagination to enjoy this story”
    MatPat: “I have the RIGHT timeline and you’re all gonna listen!!!”

    • @DesmondDolan
      @DesmondDolan 4 년 전 +24

      He's right, I will listen. It's relaxing

    • @reddokun
      @reddokun 4 년 전 +16

      JUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUST ANOTHER THEORY!
      Not but forreal, let's not take Mat's interpretations as /fact/. Let him have his fun, it's certainly entertaining.

    • @AJSSPACEPLACE
      @AJSSPACEPLACE 4 년 전 +2

      Neko blitz I remember the day MatPat put a gun to my head and yelled “BELIEVE MY THEORIES!”

    • @ramonandrajo6348
      @ramonandrajo6348 10 개월 전 +1

      @@reddokun The Nintendrone is salty. XD

  • @avee5771
    @avee5771 10 개월 전 +4

    Absolutely wild totk came out last week and 3 years ago we had hot Ganon memes

  • @High-Voltage17
    @High-Voltage17 년 전 +7

    With the Divine Beast reference from Midna and how the various Champions had been tasked to pilot (and/or train in) one, it reminds me of the dungeon Link can complete within the Shrine of Resurrection as part of the Champion's Ballad. I was extremely disappointed that the architecture was not in resemblance of a wolf! Such a missed opportunity!

  • @allusiondreams09
    @allusiondreams09 4 년 전 +508

    Matt: "Dear Nintendo, I-"
    Austin: *"HI! IT'S ME! AUSTIN!"*

  • @rocstac
    @rocstac 4 년 전 +468

    nintendo: Hyrule Warriors isnt canon
    MatPat: BUT what about this, and this, and this, and this, and ...
    nintendo: ... (quietly) quick write that down.

    • @larstallinger6795
      @larstallinger6795 4 년 전 +29

      Honestly wouldn't surprise me. While HW does fit the timeline pretty well I still don't quite like this idea. I would prefer a fleshed out game where a Link has to travel between the timelines and officially recombine them. Kind of like an oracle of ages/seasons-like game but with timelines. Each timeline would have its own map with similarities and differences compared to the rest and eventually you get to merge them all into one complete map.
      In HW the timelines get merged but if my memory serves me right, the timelines were split up again in the end. That would mean the other timelines still exist....but the child timeline now has influences from other timelines affecting it. I had the WiiU version of HW so it's been a while since I played it but I don't think my memory is that much off.
      I do find the argument compelling though and I am also quite impressed by how so far the comments have been extremely positive to this idea. I'm used to people rushing to the comments to trash the theory. Well done, by everyone.

    • @alexp6667
      @alexp6667 4 년 전 +1

      @@larstallinger6795 this aint the Hollow Knight vid, to which, i thought to be true... until i truly thought about it for a sec

    • @Nanashi20
      @Nanashi20 4 년 전 +2

      @@alexp6667 you really didnt need to think too hard about the hollow knight game if you played it to be honest, it was such a dumb, and horribly bad theory.

    • @alexp6667
      @alexp6667 4 년 전

      @@Nanashi20 I have already beaten the game once, doing it again in Steel Soul, and finishing it in Godmaster mode. I had trouble following the story, so i had trouble denying the theory, but then it hit me.
      If we are the king, then why are we siblings to Horneta and the Hollow Knight, wouldnt they know what their fathers presence was like?
      If we are the king, how could we have united the voidheart? It cannot be from simple things such as "Oh, he has been reincarnated as a sibling" no, the Voidheart allows you to command the void beings, beings completely oppossed to the power of the king. If we were the king, the task would be impossible, if we were a child of the king, we have the ability of sacrificing one part of our body for that union, the "Light" part.

    • @eldmusic
      @eldmusic 4 년 전 +3

      rocstac or that one scene from spongebob
      Nintendo: Hyrule Warriors isn’t cannon!
      Matpat: HMMM! HMMMM!!! HHHHHHHMMMMMMM!!!!!

  • @NicoleMay316
    @NicoleMay316 10 개월 전 +23

    As a massive fan of Hyrule Warriors and someone who thinks it absolutely fits in the timeline, this is perfect.

  • @Caped_Crusader1939
    @Caped_Crusader1939 2 개월 전 +3

    After playing Tears of the Kingdom, I notice Ganondorf’s design looks like a slightly older version of Hyrule Warriors’ Ganondorf. Pretty interesting.

  • @faye1957
    @faye1957 4 년 전 +781

    Matpat: “I solved the entire Zelda timeline with Hyrule Warriors.”
    Bdg: “Hold my Skyrim Book Report.”

  • @user-cf3yc6dk8b
    @user-cf3yc6dk8b 4 년 전 +817

    TITLE: Dear Nintendo,
    ME: Oh so this is Austin's
    MATPAT: Welcome to Game Theory
    ME: Oh.

    • @Tezrak0
      @Tezrak0 4 년 전 +20

      The thumbnail looked like one of Austin's too.

    • @rew1677
      @rew1677 4 년 전 +6

      @@Tezrak0 i pulled a sneeky on ya

    • @10subscriberswithnovideos30
      @10subscriberswithnovideos30 4 년 전 +5

      False prophet Austin Letters are blue and matpats are green so yeah you stupehd

    • @juice2307
      @juice2307 4 년 전 +5

      Not gonna lie, I was a bit disappointed when it wasn't Austin.

    • @SupermarioglitchyVISIX
      @SupermarioglitchyVISIX 4 년 전 +2

      You can tell by the thumbnails game theory is green and I believe austins is blue.

  • @emirald555
    @emirald555 2 개월 전 +2

    I like how once totk come out you can get outfits to most of the games

  • @gingerbreadguy6764
    @gingerbreadguy6764 년 전 +38

    This theory actually makes sense and fits nearly perfectly into the timline... I can totally see this being canon at some point in future. Phenomenal theory Mat! you've done well, kid.

  • @8ByteBrian
    @8ByteBrian 4 년 전 +849

    *You forgot the Nintendo: Legend of Zelda Board Game*
    *rumbling*
    *Timeline collapses*

    • @marojohn4926
      @marojohn4926 4 년 전 +63

      Imagine thinking the board game holds the timeline together. We all know the breakfast cereal was the most important

    • @lumosnite5935
      @lumosnite5935 4 년 전 +47

      Y’all never heard that Brain David Gilbert saved the Zelda timeline with Monopoly and it shows

    • @connermorg
      @connermorg 4 년 전 +6

      What About The DLC's and Amibo's? Lol

    • @loxicarus695
      @loxicarus695 4 년 전 +9

      You thought the Board game and Breakfast cereal was important. Well let me tell you the Legend of Zelda Trash can truely holds the timeline together.

    • @jojo58
      @jojo58 4 년 전 +4

      They forgot cadence of hyrule too

  • @skylenexo6541
    @skylenexo6541 4 년 전 +845

    Matpat: *Ignores Four Swords Adventures*
    Also Matpat after a few months/years: *THIS IS HOW FOUR SWORDS ADVENTURES SOLVES THE TIMELINE!*

  • @littlepeepf
    @littlepeepf 7 개월 전 +4

    MatPat then: “Breath of the Wild 2: The Breath Just Got Wilder”
    Nintendo: Well, yes, but actually no.

  • @michaelplantarich3375

    Considering they said Warriors is non-cannon, I wonder if Tears of the Kingdom will be the game that unites them all? I think I've heard it's supposed to be pre-breathe, so it would potentially fit there. Curious to see when it comes out next month!
    Love rewatching these old videos. Less to see "how wrong you were" as a lot of comments do, but really to see how the games and channel have grown. It's great to see, and I'm happy to be along for the ride!

  • @PGhostCZ
    @PGhostCZ 4 년 전 +496

    Game dev: "This is not canon"
    MatPat: "THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING"

    • @mightyoneproductions2232
      @mightyoneproductions2232 4 년 전 +2

      So True. MatPat does connect the dots quite nicely. It fits in perfectly, thereby combining the three timelines.

    • @thedragonballgod9472
      @thedragonballgod9472 4 년 전

      MightyOne Productions but he didn’t include four swords so the theory is debunked

    • @BiohazardScott
      @BiohazardScott 4 년 전

      Nintendo: "There's no timeline, all games are stories apart"
      Also Nintendo_ "Here's your timeline, now buy! So you make me richer."

    • @mightyoneproductions2232
      @mightyoneproductions2232 4 년 전

      @The Dragon Ball God Uh, how is it debunked if Four Swords Adventure is apart of the child timeline? He didn't need to cover Four Swords, because it was doing it's own thing, and just made it so that there were four Links.

    • @thedragonballgod9472
      @thedragonballgod9472 4 년 전

      MightyOne Productions hold I’m watching the video again to find what he said about four swords

  • @reallyreal2007
    @reallyreal2007 4 년 전 +392

    MatPat: I fixed the Zelda timeline!
    Nintendo: wAiT tHaTs ilEaGaL

    • @kate_gam3zalot105
      @kate_gam3zalot105 4 년 전 +1

      Underrated comment XD

    • @runedoom
      @runedoom 4 년 전 +1

      Yeah! We all know B.D.G did it first.

    • @Mr_Mimestamp
      @Mr_Mimestamp 4 년 전 +3

      Nintendo: doesn’t completely have a solid timeline
      MatPat: wait that’s illegal

  • @familyyeap7719
    @familyyeap7719 년 전 +4

    I've played hyrule warriors before, and I've always questioned it's logic, but I never thought it connected to any of the other games

  • @BenjaminWirtz
    @BenjaminWirtz 2 년 전 +5

    My theory since BotW was that the timelines were combined and that would have solved it. Using Hyrule Warriors as the catalyst does make sense. Perhaps Super Smash Bros. could play in it too, since not only does it involve multiple Zelda Timelines, but the entire Nintendo multiverse.

  • @chloeevans6510
    @chloeevans6510 4 년 전 +233

    Nintendo: *sees this video*
    Nintendo: Let’s make Hyrule Warriors canon now

    • @Shrooblord
      @Shrooblord 4 년 전 +3

      Please do!

    • @voltrainer
      @voltrainer 4 년 전 +1

      I mean it really shoulda been. Then the "theories" of a dragonbreak would just be hyrule warriors XD

  • @Yekulten
    @Yekulten 4 년 전 +616

    ocarina of time: "Oops, I ripped reality into three parts."
    Hyrule Warriors: "Let me fix that for you."

    • @peterlaursen5722
      @peterlaursen5722 4 년 전 +60

      Hyrule Warriors: i Will show you the power of Flex tape

    • @jacobsmith7094
      @jacobsmith7094 4 년 전 +10

      if only Nintendo made hyrule warriors canon

    • @I_like_pi_
      @I_like_pi_ 4 년 전 +30

      @@peterlaursen5722 To show you the power of flex tape, I sawed this timeline in half!

    • @nonoctoro4933
      @nonoctoro4933 4 년 전 +4

      Two parts*
      Aktually OOT never took place in the "Downfall" Timeline.

    • @camsterasmar975
      @camsterasmar975 4 년 전 +1

      Nonoctoro When Link dies in OOT the downfall timeline begins.

  • @bigmyke2008
    @bigmyke2008 10 개월 전 +3

    Botw 2 “The Breath got Wilder” is admittedly a much cooler title than Tears of the Kingdom. I’m sure Matt will be busy with another timeline in the next month

  • @JessicaTheEm
    @JessicaTheEm 10 개월 전 +4

    We NEED a new timeline theory for tears of the kingdom

    • @slidersides
      @slidersides 10 개월 전

      And you NEED to explain your pfp cuz wth is that?!

  • @SlipScout
    @SlipScout 4 년 전 +183

    "The breath just got wilder" is my favorite line
    also rehydrated ganon was a beautiful sentence

    • @declanandrewbell
      @declanandrewbell 4 년 전 +9

      m o i s t g a n o n

    • @devcrom3
      @devcrom3 4 년 전

      If the sequel isn't named Zelda: Breathe Harder, I'm going to boycott.

  • @tzisorey
    @tzisorey 4 년 전 +234

    "Timeline may change depending on new discoveries" read as "There's still a time-travelling Link out there somewhere who's fudging stuff up"

    • @Azure70
      @Azure70 4 년 전 +23

      Well, excuuuuuuse me.

    • @rushingwater2.0
      @rushingwater2.0 4 년 전 +5

      Azure Phoenix we don’t talk about that...

    • @the1hero182
      @the1hero182 4 년 전 +6

      Azure Phoenix the TV timeline (plus CDI)

    • @BUTTERSKY11
      @BUTTERSKY11 4 년 전 +10

      @@the1hero182 the tv timeline is a hole in the Universe that gets bigger every time link says well EXCUSE ME PRINCESS

    • @rossperk
      @rossperk 4 년 전 +3

      Great Scott!

  • @damiengamez1909
    @damiengamez1909 8 개월 전 +2

    Mat is gonna flip when he sees what totk did to the timeline

  • @squirrelspown
    @squirrelspown 2 년 전 +1

    I felt the blue tunic was definitely referring to wind waker costume after you beat the game

  • @parafoxl7619
    @parafoxl7619 4 년 전 +178

    But where are the spinoffs, the time break. HELL, WHERE IS THE ZELDA MONOPOLY?! How can you tie everything together without the Zelda Monopoly?!?!?!

  • @boxythepiplup9515
    @boxythepiplup9515 2 년 전 +3

    In Botw dlc it is shown that that the champions tunic was hand-crafted by Zelda btw for new viewers.

  • @captianbacon
    @captianbacon 년 전 +3

    This theory has aged like a fine wine...

  • @jamie13806
    @jamie13806 4 년 전 +591

    Zelda timeline : exist
    Zelda fans: ok...
    Zelda timeline : changes
    Zelda fans: (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

    • @SteveOnlin
      @SteveOnlin 4 년 전 +10

      Lemme fix it
      Zelda timeline : *Exists*
      Nintendo : no

    • @nonoctoro4933
      @nonoctoro4933 4 년 전 +1

      Enlightened Zelda Fan : Actually, the books weren't written by Nintendo and even less by the developers but by both Shogakukan and Dream Magazine Writters. "Supervised by Aonuma"
      One of the big problems with the Timeline of Hyrule Historia, while the order of the game is correct, there is no "Hero is defeated".
      Now, if we take the official Manual of A Link To the Past, the Story part that a developer actually wrote, being Yoshiaki Koizumi, Ganon never faced any Hero prior to ALTTP.
      The Story goes this way :
      He and his followers found the Entrance of the Sacred Realm by chance(there is no proof of a temple of time in that Timeline), they all went crazy over their first gaze upon Triforce so Ganondorf murdered all of them a wished on it with his hand soaked with fresh blood, he wished to conquer the world and this turned him into the Demon King Ganon and turned the Sacred Realm into the Dark World, an overview of what Hyrule is going to be like once the wish is fulfilled.
      Too bad, now he's lonely as he killed all his allies, to conquer the world he needs an army so he used his evil presence to lure greedy people into the Dark World and make them shift into demons thanks to the curse.
      Once he got an army, he was going to invade hyrule, Dark Clouds were coming from the Gate and were covering the land, so the King sent the Sages to stop that from happening and they seeked for the existence of the Master Sword and a Hero to wield it but there is no time, so they Knights were enough, too bad they sacrified themself and their line almost vanished, the line in which the Hero is supposed to appears from.
      But the Sages completed the seal and the only Gate was sealed.
      This is basic seal War lore.
      I want to have a talk with Shogakukan and how they misinterpreted ALTTP so hard, yeah, by the way, this is just but an interpretation.

    • @williamgardner545
      @williamgardner545 4 년 전

      I don't understand why it needs a timeline.

    • @nonoctoro4933
      @nonoctoro4933 4 년 전

      @Ironwolf 1 *cough* Eiji Aonuma

    • @o4_
      @o4_ 4 년 전

      My, that is beautiful.

  • @akilw.3360
    @akilw.3360 4 년 전 +450

    You: Epic of Stew is Mat and Steph first collab
    Me, an intellectual: Epic of Stew is Oliver's older brother

  • @xbrosx321
    @xbrosx321 10 개월 전 +2

    Hyrule Warriors is 2015 secret wars for Zelda. Got it. Great video.

  • @reachlol1
    @reachlol1 10 개월 전 +2

    God I need to see how he fits TotK into the timeline now

  • @christophervandehey2614
    @christophervandehey2614 3 년 전 +757

    The timelines fused together to create botw and then split again into the "new downfall timeline" for botw and a victorious timeline for age of calamity.

    • @mariustan9275
      @mariustan9275 2 년 전 +22

      That actually makes sense

    • @derrickdaniels3955
      @derrickdaniels3955 년 전 +20

      Yes so the timeliness come together and make the Calamity timeline. From there we get BOTW and thanks to Terrako another timeline is created which is Age of Calamity.

    • @micahbirdlover8152
      @micahbirdlover8152 년 전 +2

      @@mariustan9275 new flim theory idea 💡wild Kratts are criminals 🤭😃

    • @Terraa.
      @Terraa. 년 전

      wouldn't botw 2 be a victorious timeline and age of calamity be the downfall one?

    • @kenty597
      @kenty597 년 전 +15

      @@Terraa. age of calamity they defeated and i think killed calamity ganon as he awoke
      In breath of the wild ganon woke up and took over and the champions lost causing link to be sealed away for 100 years wile zelda held gannon from completly destroying the place

  • @wdecently7150
    @wdecently7150 4 년 전 +447

    Hero of Time,
    Hero of Skies,
    Hero of Light,
    Hero of Multiversity,
    And with the new Cadence of Hyrule...
    *HERO OF* *_FUNK_*

    • @mattstanford9673
      @mattstanford9673 4 년 전 +43

      Hero of Rhyme, as deemed by the almighty Egoraptor.

    • @wdecently7150
      @wdecently7150 4 년 전 +4

      @@mattstanford9673 ah, how could I forget

    • @tariffictypist7372
      @tariffictypist7372 4 년 전 +9

      Wot about the hero of Trains

    • @syndere6755
      @syndere6755 4 년 전 +9

      You know, Hero of Time, Twilight, Sky, Light, Trains, Spirits, Hyrule, New Soup Hyrule, Wild- wait, Trains?

    • @stevenskinner998
      @stevenskinner998 4 년 전 +1

      KRplus: Show Less?
      Me: YES PLEASE

  • @thejonbrownshow8470
    @thejonbrownshow8470 2 년 전 +3

    The wording of "4 timelines" make me go like rami's Osborn's "oh" *lore impales*

  • @zeropsaft
    @zeropsaft 10 개월 전 +3

    Man SIA did indeed link the timelines just to get Link's longsword

  • @Robert-rw5lm
    @Robert-rw5lm 4 년 전 +694

    so basically Ocarina of time acts like the divergence of the timelines and Hyrule Warriors is the convergence

    • @auramaster2068
      @auramaster2068 4 년 전 +23

      I dislike convergence theory since its impossible you cant have all timelines combine sonce all contradict each other, the inevitable theory being that timelines are seperate but have same outcome makes more sense to me.

    • @traptanium1594
      @traptanium1594 4 년 전 +8

      @@auramaster2068 it is possible

    • @CryWolf0651
      @CryWolf0651 4 년 전 +39

      @@auramaster2068 you're thinking logically and scientifically, but anything is possible with magic so...

    • @dizzyx7
      @dizzyx7 4 년 전 +10

      Auramaster 206yt In the end, it’s not all that necessary for the timelines to merge perfectly in this scenario, even without playing HW and just watching the visuals presented in MatPat’s video, you can see how this happened, entire locations got magically phased in an out of the entire landscape, and somethings just plain got replaced or destroyed... but I suppose that all got fixed anyway.

    • @RivkahSong
      @RivkahSong 4 년 전 +11

      @@auramaster2068 But then that still wouldn't make sense. How would all three end the same way, separately, when you have one race appearing twice in two different forms (the Zorah and Rito), or how you see the Twilight mirror shards and can get Midna's helmet but the existence of the Rito and Koroks mean the world flooded and so Twilight Princess couldn't' have happened at the same time. It only all makes sense if the timeline is somehow brought back together, somehow.
      And with a high fantasy series with actual goddesses that exist and affect the world I'm not sure trying to apply scientific logic to it is gonna work. This is the same universe where a sentient moon nearly destroyed the planet, and even though it was literally only feet from hitting the ground the planet suffered no negative impact from the gravitational forces pulling at each other, at all.

  • @strangestcraze7743
    @strangestcraze7743 4 년 전 +219

    MatPat: *says Nintendo should know its timeline they created*
    Nintendo: *says Hyrule Warriors isn't canon to the timeline*
    MatPat: *proceeds to include it in said timeline*

    • @jacobsmith7094
      @jacobsmith7094 4 년 전 +11

      well nintendo probably never thought about a connection to the timeline they just figured that the game was so different that they shouldn't even include it. But maybe if someone at nintendo sees this the game will (hopefully) become a part of the timeline

    • @randomduck8679
      @randomduck8679 4 년 전

      Jacob Smith aren’t there multiple links in that game

    • @polodoesthings395
      @polodoesthings395 4 년 전

      @@jacobsmith7094 CDI

  • @Hamlettte
    @Hamlettte 9 개월 전 +2

    8:00 after 3 years and the release of ToTK, it's likely that those Zora are just those who branched away from the regular Zora tree. With Yona's introduction, we find out that there are other Zora's domains at far away places, so those hostile Zora's may just be from a different tribe

  • @blue_phenix1364
    @blue_phenix1364 2 년 전 +4

    I love the fact that it's called the Adult Era yet the first hero is a literal child. And yes I know that's not why it's called that but still

  • @daggartom
    @daggartom 4 년 전 +307

    Have you checked the Breath of the Wild 2 “Ganon” that was in the trailer? Because I’m pretty sure it has the 5 chains on it.

    • @ThatAnArchyDude
      @ThatAnArchyDude 4 년 전 +39

      And that corpse in BotW2 looks even more like Hyrule Warriors Ganondorf than Twilight Princess Ganondorf.
      Spoilers for BotW2 proving Hyrule Warriors as canon?

    • @L16htW4rr10r
      @L16htW4rr10r 4 년 전 +6

      @@ThatAnArchyDude God, I hope so!

    • @Lukas-hb5be
      @Lukas-hb5be 4 년 전 +3

      But he also has sharp teeth like demise

    • @Felodontis
      @Felodontis 4 년 전 +4

      The mere fact that there is a Ganondorf that became Ganon is strong support for BotW being primarily set in the Child Timeline. No other timeline has both forms.

    • @Toki_39
      @Toki_39 4 년 전

      And the hand that holds him HAS FIVE FINGERS

  • @sammuelsilva7058
    @sammuelsilva7058 4 년 전 +197

    The Game Theorists: (this video)
    Nintendo:My god he’s always two steps ahead

  • @PlushiePower
    @PlushiePower 10 개월 전 +1

    i honestly love watching matpat talk about zelda lol, this is in my opinion at least probably the best option for a timeline

  • @connt1nu3
    @connt1nu3 년 전 +1

    This is littered my entire timeline theory that I came up with two years ago made overly complicated. Thanks! I know I’m late, but…

  • @mr_fahrenheight1728
    @mr_fahrenheight1728 4 년 전 +237

    Also, the Ganondorf in The BOTW2 trailer also has a crown and long, fiery hair, but no beard.

    • @thes.t.a.gprince9952
      @thes.t.a.gprince9952 4 년 전 +10

      @Imagination yeah I don't think you have a beard when you've been mummified

    • @davidlarkin1040
      @davidlarkin1040 4 년 전 +5

      @@thes.t.a.gprince9952 agreed, but to be fair, he has hair, so why no beard?

    • @sampreston1632
      @sampreston1632 4 년 전 +1

      Liam_Lucario 13 hrs also a corpse......

    • @bestboi2945
      @bestboi2945 4 년 전 +4

      I dont think thats Gannon

    • @MayanMaize
      @MayanMaize 4 년 전 +3

      Link wanted a pelt and used the beard as his own in that timeline. That's why he woke up so angry

  • @severanceflames2201
    @severanceflames2201 4 년 전 +428

    Kind of reminds me of Triforce... 3 different pieces of the story eventually become 1.

    • @alexp6667
      @alexp6667 4 년 전 +12

      Shut the front door

    • @DarKSideF0X
      @DarKSideF0X 4 년 전 +12

      You could be on to something!!!!

    • @IceInTheSoda
      @IceInTheSoda 4 년 전 +17

      Either the creators of Ocarina of Time planned this, or it accidentally happened and the Zelda franchise was still able to make it work without anyone knowing it.

    • @etrock0856
      @etrock0856 4 년 전 +39

      Actually it kind of makes sense, The Timeline of Power would be the defeated timeline where The Hero has to, time and again, defeat Ganon and his triforce of Power as the main goal of the game, overcoming the sheer power of Ganons dominion. The Child Timeline would be the Timeline of Wisdom where the hero is tasked with solving the complex problems of Hyrule/Twilight Realm often with a more direct role from the triforce of Wisdom bearer or princess. The Adult timeline is the Timeline of Courage where the Hero is often tasked with Exploring a vastly different and open worlds/times in an ever changing landscape with a focus on survival and exploration.
      Bear with me, what if in Ocarina of Time, the sages fractured the universe into a multiverse through the temple of time on purpose after Link defeated Ganon, creating the three possible paths in an attempt to separate the tri-force so that it could not exist in the same plane at the same time ever. Each timeline is governed by a single aspect of the Tri-force as planned by the Sages. However, they did not think that each Triforce piece had the power to create a representation of a full triforce in their respected universe. Since the triforce in each universe was created by a fragment of the original triforce they are far weaker though which lends itself the fact that the Ganons, and powers of the triforce wielders in the different timelines seem weaker and less all powerful.
      Once the multiverse is brought back together during the cataclysm of Hyrule Warriors, via the Triforce of Wisdom's manipulation of Cia's emotions, we now have a completed triforce back in a single plane of existence after a millennia of time. You see the Tri-Force is that, a force with three equal parts, it yearns to be whole, wants to be whole, so what if the Child Timeline was the Tri-force of wisdom nurturing and manipulating the abilities/heros/princesses, of its universe until they had the power to merge the multiverse back together.
      With the full power of the triforce available once again, it lead to both an era of great technological advancements, prosperity, and eventual doom. Ganon as a natural force of evil in the world was bound to be revived again after Hyrule warriors and when he was, he was taken down by The Hero and the Princess time and again until Ganons guile gave him the upper hand. The power of Ganon, the Princess, and the Hero in BoTW feel absolutely massive compared to many of the past games, because the Tri-Force is whole in this universe. Ganon can infect technology, is gargantuan, acting like a wild savage beast brimming with power. The Princess's light is able to hold Ganon for years upon years, containing most of his power to a single location, and The Hero in BoTW has an incredibly strong tool kit of powers thanks to his ability to harness the lessons and abilities/items gifted to him by the trials.
      This probably makes no sense but I had to type it out after I read your comment. And as nintendo says, as long as I can imagine it, it is true :D

    • @jaxonbrooks2932
      @jaxonbrooks2932 4 년 전 +1

      Well Gannon has the power piece and is the ruler of the downfall timeline.... so the downfall timeline represents the power.

  • @dominiquereeves2649
    @dominiquereeves2649 2 년 전 +1

    "The Breath just got Wilder" I'm in tears. 😭😭😭

  • @ebirdo5547
    @ebirdo5547 11 개월 전 +3

    2019 MatPat: "the Zelda timeline is one of the longest topics I've ever covered"
    The FNAF timeline: "am i a joke to you?"

  • @nalinea18
    @nalinea18 4 년 전 +334

    MatPat: ”Thirsty time-sorceress.”
    Me: ”Dang it, Ultimecia, not again! Stop re-incarnating yourself!”

    • @honeychroma
      @honeychroma 4 년 전 +10

      I laughed really hard at this, Final Fantasy VIII was gREaT

    • @TheShardsFamily
      @TheShardsFamily 4 년 전 +1

      I bet you could make plenty of theories with her cause... time travel is a frak

    • @RealSkoolmaster
      @RealSkoolmaster 4 년 전 +1

      Well, this comment is better than the entire video and it was a good one this time. Kudos to you

  • @literallyredacted1934
    @literallyredacted1934 4 년 전 +360

    BDG predicted Hyrule warriors' importance. We called him a madman, but he was speaking the truth and saying the sooth

    • @packardgoose400
      @packardgoose400 4 년 전 +62

      "We rejected His message. We hated Him because He told us the truth."

    • @justkon1789
      @justkon1789 4 년 전 +5

      Who’s BDG

    • @packardgoose400
      @packardgoose400 4 년 전 +21

      @@justkon1789 Brian David Gilbert. He works for Polygon and we're referencing his Unraveled series.

    • @literallyredacted1934
      @literallyredacted1934 4 년 전 +7

      @@justkon1789 the dude from the Polygon series Unravelled. It's really funny.

    • @Merrygate_
      @Merrygate_ 4 년 전 +7

      He is a visionary come to enlighten us all

  • @howmanylanasarethere
    @howmanylanasarethere 9 개월 전 +1

    One of the few theories out there I am absolutely adamant about

  • @AlexG3Z
    @AlexG3Z 년 전 +1

    Spirit tracks is really just the only Zelda game I've played, played it on my nintendo, zelda is a amazing game and very complex, great job Mat :D

  • @TheMajesticEagles
    @TheMajesticEagles 4 년 전 +427

    “Glowing embers of twilight. Now this may seem like the weakest argument”
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    . “Yellow Hat”

    • @scarfking1579
      @scarfking1579 4 년 전 +18

      Theyre both equally weak, but both have other pieces of evidence in their buckets to make up for them

    • @cyan.6399
      @cyan.6399 4 년 전 +9

      ​@@scarfking1579
      The Glowing Embers of Twilight is an incorrect translation. The Japanese version has a different easter egg from a different timeline.

    • @adog3129
      @adog3129 4 년 전 +7

      the thing that seemed incredibly weak to me was that blue tunic.

    • @gnockgnock6965
      @gnockgnock6965 4 년 전 +4

      @@adog3129 I said looks more like Wind Waker's tunic.

    • @MasherCaster
      @MasherCaster 4 년 전

      Sad but true